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He collaborated with the University and some exciting things came out of it.

@@MrBollocks10 Yup, very smart man with a traditional style in lecture graphics 🥰

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I know exactly what you mean. It's so elegant and beautiful, and such a pure Occam's razor in how its simplicity solves all the paradoxes, unknowns and logical necessities so neatly. I only stumbled across Penrose's CCC theory and his model of the universe two days ago. Since then I've been watching all the talks and videos on him that I can find, and every time he shows how the aeons fit together and especially how remnant signals from a past aeon could conceivably be observed in the cosmic background radiation of our current aeon, my restless mind is at such ease. It just makes so much sense. I like that. Every sense of unrest, inconsistency and frustration with conventional models and theories are done away with.

The danger is to "think" or "have the feeling" we understand but with no solid ground : it becomes faith, not science. Speculations are the beginning, not the end and every hypothesis must be thoroughly tested..

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This idiot gets it

Sir Roger*

That may be so, but he can't explain shit. He's building the lecture on his own experience without explaining that experience.

Being smart doesn't mean being correct. In this case, Sir Roger Penrose is wrong.

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Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

Its funny that even this level of genius stil get confused by trivial things such as, how to operate a rrmote controller for presentations.😂

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@@scienceforfree0 Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

@@hyperduality2838 stop spamming.

@@mattblack6736 Spam is the wrong word. There are new laws of physics:- From a converging, convex (lens) or syntropic perspective everything looks divergent, concave or entropic -- the 2nd law of thermodynamics! According to the 2nd law all observers have a syntropic perspective. My syntropy is your entropy and your syntropy is my entropy -- Duality! "Entropy is a measure of randomness" -- Roger Penrose. Syntropy is a measure of order. Opposites, opposame = duality. SINE is dual to COSINE -- the word "co" means mutual and implies duality. Symmetry is dual to conservation -- the duality of Noether's theorem. Duality (thesis, anti-thesis) synthesizes reality (non duality). Classical reality is dual to quantum reality creates true reality -- Roger Penrose using the Hegelian dialectic. Hawking points are dual to Hawking lines.

@@hyperduality2838 No.... Spam is without a doubt the correct word for that drivel. Its stuff you think sounds deep but is surface level thinking and in some of the cases absolute nonsense. Lines being the duality of points? No... Stop spreading your ideas until you flesh them out least you look like a drunken fool. This is the same sort of stuff I could have expected from my mentally unstable drunken uncle before he passed. Its not that deep bro, your post anyway, the topic is wway.....wayyyy deeper than you wish to give it credit for. Check it, all particles in reality are made of 3 color charges... a trinity of force. Super symmetry is bunk and does not exist so.... what now with your thought process?

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He invented a lot of those SpaceTime "Penrose" diagrams that are standard in that field nowadays.

I know this is an old video and post, but where do you consider time and space in this "inverted geometry" with particular attention on the question of time? Time as emergent and not real, or time as something more fundamental?

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He describes it in some detail in his book Cycles of Time

Thanks a lot!

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no, it just took that long for light to be able to escape out

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So any Q's please? Yes, can you go back to the first slide and explain it all again from there.

Unlikely.

You would win a competition that called for converting an eye-roll into a sentence. Yikes.

@@Paine137 Thank you for your comment. I now think my comment was perhaps mistaken. On the other hand, entropy is defined for a state of thermodynamic equilibrium: not for things like a big bang, the opposite of a state of thermodynamic equilibrium.

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Hawking points

Hawking Points don't require positive curvature, they work fine flat. The collision points of SMBs in a previous aeon fade out over infinite time to a single point in space. Once that point crosses the boundary into our current aeon, the stretching of the universe after our big bang spreads them out until they are about 4º in our sky. When you look at the cosmic microwave background, you can see points in rings all over that are indeed 4º. This is hotly debated but it does seem more than a coincidence that he should look for them and they seem to appear.

@@ScrambleBandOfficial Thank you for the clarification.

Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

@@hyperduality2838 tl;dr

@@ScrambleBandOfficialthanks

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Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

😁

I think the idea is that if you do some rescaling, that the long term future can be seen as equivalent to another aeon? So that like, the one that comes “after” is just like, embedded within the end of the current one?

@@hyperduality2838 not what “duality” means.

how could we know if it is not observable ?

@@leyasep5919 The whole point of the presentation is that Hawking Points are a visible (in our eon) remnant of the previous eon. And I should think that if the physics of these "re-appearing" Hawking Points conform (no pun) to current laws of physics for radiation and quantum properties etc. then it argues in favour of the idea that the previous and next eons will have very similar physics.

@@joaidane overall it's a flimsy assertion...

The uncertainty principle is a fundamental limitation on objective measurement.

Point taken and understood, but I was not referring to the Uncertainty associated with "The Uncertainty Principle" when I was talking about Certainty but more so the expected Certainty associated with "The Collapse of the Wave Function" and the Probabilistic nature associated with the answer as given by the Probability wave that emerges as the only answer we seem to be able to get as in the Theory of QED.

Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

U wot m8?

He possibly keeps a pen and pencil handy and doesn’t need yt videos.

The "virtual particle pairs ripped apart" layperson's mental picture of hawking radiation is dubious at best. The actual mechanism is rather different. For starters, the radiation emitted has wavelengths in the same order of magnitude as the size of the black hole's event horizon. I think a better layperson's quantum explanation would be that hawking radiation is matter tunneling out of the black hole singularity even beyond the event horizon due to heisenberg's uncertainty principle (which in essence says that the more you try to confine anything to a particular location, the higher the probability becomes that portions of it leak out randomly). That picture is probably just as wrong, but it doesn't lead to headscratchers like how infalling virtual particles can reduce the mass of a black hole. As for how the virtual particle model might be salvagable: Spontaneously created virtual particles exist (if they even really do at all, and aren't just an artifact of the maths we use) on borrowed energy; so if one particle pops into existence near a black hole and never gets a chance to annihilate with its pair partner, it carries stolen energy into the universe. If conservation of energy is to hold, then the black hole that swallowed the pair partner needs to be held accountable for the balance. In a sense, the mass added to the black hole by the swallowed virtual particle is negative. (Which intuitively makes no sense, but quantum mechanics has never given much of a damn about our intuition anyway.)

As for "black holes = child universes", I see one serious problem with that concept: The total energy content inside any individual black hole is inevitably finite, and less than the energy content of the parent universe. So if this was a mechanism by which a multiverse was created, then from each generation to the next the energy content of each individual universe would diminish, until eventually all the energy would be spread between so many universes, that there would be too little energy in each of them to continue the process.

In the process of Hawking radiation, virtual particle-antiparticle pairs are created close to the event horizon of the black hole. One particle falls into the black hole, while the other escapes as radiation. The overall effect is that the black hole loses energy and mass as this radiation carries away energy from the black hole. However, it is important to note that the exact mechanism of Hawking radiation is still an active area of research, and there are various competing theories and models attempting to explain it. While the basic idea of virtual particles near the event horizon leading to radiation is widely accepted, there are still many open questions and uncertainties about the details of the process.

@@johnnyreb280 There are no competing scientific theories and models of Hawking radiation - there is only ONE such model being researched, namely the one put forward by Stephen Hawking himself. For the simple reason that it is not an actually observed phenomenon waiting for an explanation, but a prediction resulting from said model waiting for verification or falsification by such an observation (which is currently far beyond our reach). All research on the matter is geared towards coming up with ideas to test portions of the model. And that one model has nothing to do with virtual particle pairs getting separated - it has something to do with event horizons and different frames of reference. The commonly discussed virtual particle model of Hawking radiation is not a rigorous scientific model - it is merely an attempt at explaining the predicted mechanism to scientifically curious laypeople without having to dig deep into Hawking's actual model.

Actually we don't know whether Hawking radiation exists - and if so, whether it actually causes black holes to "evaporate". In a nutshell, the predictions Hawking made are based on (as far as I know) the following presumptions: (1) that in the vicinity of a black hole's event horizon we can still trust both General Relativity and Quantum Mechanics; and (2) that conservation of energy holds with respect to black holes. Based on presumption (1), Hawking predicted that black holes (or rather, the vicinity of their event horizon) should emit radiation with a blackbody spectrum (at a very low temperature, unless the black hole is very small). Based on presumption (2), he concluded that therefore black holes should (eventually) lose mass and shrink, and ultimately "evaporate" entirely.

Dark Energy came from Feynman ?? Do you mean the conservation of Energy? He did do a lot on that. I think you're getting mixed up. Pearlman and co came up with Dark Energy only about 25 years ago. Feynman died about a decade before the need for Dark Energy.

@@MrBollocks10 I think it was a short video, where he talked about it. with a smile on his face.

@@konradcomrade4845 It had been thought of until long after he was dead. (11 years ) Are you sure you don't mean Dark Matter?

Pardon me. I meant. It hadn't been....

Popularity doesnt dictate truth. Weve soent billions on de/dm and found nothing yet it is the most widely accepted theory. At one time the preeminent theory was the music of the spheres..

@@cdreid9999I want him to be right so I can consider 82 and 83

Something is adding gravity at the edges of galaxies, and we don’t know the source: hence dark matter. An explanation is necessary.

“Infinity is just like any other place.”

Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

@@hyperduality2838 stop spamming

@@drdca8263 Hawking points are dual to Hawking lines. Higgs Bosons are dual to Higgs Fermions. The point duality theorem is dual to the line duality theorem -- universal hyperbolic geometry. If you postulate the concept of a point then you need to include the concept of a line --algebraic geometry. Any two points define a line -- duality. Sine is dual to cosine -- the word "co" means mutual and implies duality. Addition is dual to subtraction (additive inverses) -- abstract algebra. I will stop spamming when you can prove me wrong! Right is dual to wrong. Absolute truth is dual to relative truth -- Hume's fork.

Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

all brilliant people are not brilliant technologically

He’s a theorist, not an experimentalist.

What on earth are you talking about? Public lectures are not how science progresses. Both Hawking was and Penrose still is on a fringe of their own science. If you look at journals not UKposts, that's where the scientific narrative, as you inartfully dubbed it, is really happening.

At least he’s trying, and he admits that his model is speculative. There’s value there even if it turns out not to be correct.

Virtual particles splitting at the event horizon cause evaporation. Heat is a byproduct. What are you blathering about.

His model aims to eliminate arbitrary inflation: he’s thinking far outside the box. But you did write a comment incoherently and in all caps, so you must be correct.

i think you do not understand what i mean !!! READ THE TEXT AGAIN ::: COMLETELY BEFORE YOU ANSWER !!!@@Paine137

If physics were easy, it wouldn’t be what people are researching. We’d be far past that point and working on far more difficult problems.

Incorrect models can spark new perspective, which can lead to better ideas. There’s always value in such proposals, so shhh.

Well that’s ridiculous.

I think you have to take into account how far away it is! To us it is likely an invisible speck, the James Webb telescope will possibly unravel the mysteries of it all. (the other option as I think about his exact words, is that they are that size comparatively but being at a frequency not visible to us, we simply don't see them)

@@joaidane Well, 8x the diameter of the Moon is 16,800 miles. But of course, as you say, it's not like we will see one in the sky near the Moon! I suppose it's tiny for a cosmic phenomenon. {:o:O:}

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Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!

@@scienceforfree0 A) "cold contracts, gravity wins and the sticky dark energy and dark matter contracts much more rapidly than they expanded" : does this deserves a "thank you for comment"? Or the other ideas, like: B) "I think the main points physicists are missing in putting it all together is first the assumption that big bang started as a true singularity in an infinitely small space." Well, here some rephrasing would be needed, for improving the clarity (because actually two opposite conclusions/interpretations are possible by the current phrasing). My preferred opinion (if the choice of statement interpretation is the correct-intended one) is that physicists DO HAVE this assumption at hand: but it is simply refused for being too... purely mathematical. At least it is so if it does not come from their own minds :) Did you mean something else? Irony: above, somewhere here, today I also gave my cent on Dr. Penrose being a bit too mathematical for me.

Making up the mind is impossible without omniscience. The best we can do is ever more accurate approximations. The next best theory will be beat by the next best theory after that and so on forever.

Roger Penrose was not yet Nobel Prize at the time of this conference. He obtains de Nobel Prize in 2020, one year after.

I think he had developed big part of his ccc-theory before Nobel. He is joking of course with this. He said there in the near end.of the "lecture", time 31.25 that: "nobody ever be able to prove me wrong, so i can talk about this forever"..I see that comment/joke like a self-irony. If u take it precily, then he mean that its not a very good theory if cannot prove right or wrong. Like a god, or multiverse. Many think rightfully that that kind of theory or thing is not science. He seem to be downearth with this. Its very new and different approach to current cosmology. I have watch couple of his youtube lectures about it, where he clarify and speak about it precily. I have to say that to layman like me, also a cosmology hobby nerd, this is very interesting consept. Sir Roger Penrose have never been afraid to make bold claims and theorys. Like his work with american brain-scientist( or.something like that, cannot remember accurate ) about how they claim that Consciousness or "soul", stay inside of some microtubulus thing in human brain, and can leave brain after host is dead. I dont know how serious u have to take this, but it is very interesting. He is speaking lot about mystery of Consciousness, in very very fascinating way. He is not shame to be proved wrong. They make bets with Stephen Hawking about black holes that whos gonna be right pr wrong. I see him very creative person, maybe genius in some way, but definetly my point here is that we and science need creative thinkers like Sir Penrose. And he know hes math too. Veey glad he received Nobel. 😊

@@phm19880 thanks for the context !

@@scienceforfree0 well, i concede, though the rest of my point remains : I don't see what this lecture concretely brings to the table. Except maybe as material for a course on critical thinking, authority bias and others 🙂

@@leyasep5919 no problemo pal. Thank you for your understanding about different aspects. your criticism of the video and the idea is justified 👍🏻🤟

So, you didn't understand him then. Try again.

Two state vectors separated by a complex phase (a photon) are said to be in the same state -- Duality. Expansion is dual to compression (contraction). Divergence (entropy, co-homology) is dual to convergence (syntropy, homology). Points are dual to lines -- the principle of duality in geometry. "Always two there are" -- Yoda. Classical reality is dual to quantum reality synthesizes true reality -- Roger Penrose. Thesis is dual to anti-thesis creates the converging thesis or synthesis -- the time independent Hegelian dialectic. Duality creates reality!