What Happened to Defense in the NBA??

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Discussing the recent rise in offense in the NBA and what it means for the league moving forward.
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@kylec2761
@kylec2761 3 місяці тому
2:03 Booker travels in the clip. Uncalled traveling, carrying, and moving screens probably explain a lot!
@kylec2761
@kylec2761 3 місяці тому
Actually 1:57
@michaelcalibri3620
@michaelcalibri3620 3 місяці тому
No lie, love Devin Booker but traveling is traveling, although I recall Steph saying "there is no traveling in the NBA" as a kind of wink and nod. @@kylec2761
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 3 місяці тому
NBA slowly transitioning to streetball lol
@timl9724
@timl9724 3 місяці тому
@@bigbangbasketball rapidly
@asyetundetermined
@asyetundetermined 3 місяці тому
“And while we all can’t get enough of it…” Speak for yourself. I’ve seen more than enough. Game needs to be rebalanced.
@KANEDAMU
@KANEDAMU 3 місяці тому
Yeah he was bugging on that fam. Smh
@PharaohsNews
@PharaohsNews 3 місяці тому
Yeah I can’t watch the NBA any more. Everything is just about numbers and the actual quality of the game and how it is called is much worse.
@vinnyv949
@vinnyv949 10 днів тому
Exactly. Too much offense is boring. Offense is exciting because it takes skill and is more difficult than defense. If offense is easier to play than defense than your sport is flawed.
@thirtythree504
@thirtythree504 3 місяці тому
I remember in the 2000s and early 2010s a 40 point game was amazing. 😂
@jlui21
@jlui21 3 місяці тому
-- this high scoring bothers me. They got rid of hand checking, sure. I'd be more interested in getting rid of flopping/foul baiting. For instance, MJ and Bird tried to still score despite the foul. MVP Embiid and prime Harden? They are looking for the foul first. It's CRAZY when defenders put their hands BEHIND their back way too often. Who does that? Modern day defenders. That's as if the attacker is storming the castle and the defenders on the wall are like, "Nope. Lower the shields and raise the gate. Let 'em in."
@SDesWriter
@SDesWriter 3 місяці тому
So when David Robinson went for 71? How about Bernard King's 60? MJ's 63 against the best defense in the league.....in a playoff game? David Thompson's 73? Granted you didn't see 4 of those types of games in a week, but it's not like 40 points was actually amazing. Jordan averaged 37.1 a game one year. Harden put up 36.1. Wilt averaged 50 & 24 rebounds. It's happened in every era of the game. Sometimes the offense is just better than the defense.....at least for a few select players.
@delacroixii
@delacroixii 3 місяці тому
It wasn’t. Mj was averaging near 40.
@HappyCoralReef-gt8cn
@HappyCoralReef-gt8cn 3 місяці тому
​@@delacroixii mj wasnt averaging 40 in the early 2000s
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 3 місяці тому
😂😂 now it’s the norm
@DerkuiDerkui
@DerkuiDerkui 3 місяці тому
David Robinson's 71 points was quite impressive as it was during the physical handcheck era and he didn't shoot 3s.
@mortenpotzdidler2790
@mortenpotzdidler2790 3 місяці тому
It was known as a joke at the time; Robinson scored that 71 against a Clippers squad that wasn't in playoff contention and didn't try at all defensively. It was also at the very end of the season, and Robinson stayed on the floor for the scoring title...which he took at the last second from Shaq through the 71-point night. Robinson proceeded to the playoff matchup against Karl Malone and Utah. With Malone defending him, Robinson's scoring average went from 29.8 in the regular season to a flat 20 in the playoffs, a catastrophic scoring decline, while Malone averaged nearly 30 a game against a Frontline of Robinson and Rodman. This, along with Robinson's performance against Hakeem in the 1995 playoffs, gave Robinson a very bad reputation: he'd throw up beautiful scoring stats in the regular season, but in his three best seasons (1994. 1995, 1996) was dominated by either Malone or Olajuwon in the playoffs. Olajuwon did it once to Robinson, Malone did it twice (1994, 1996). Anyway, Robinson's 1994 performance was another example of a statline that was juiced. Not everything about the past should be romanticized.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 місяці тому
Stat padding vs a bad team in the last game of the season. Basically Kobe vs Utah.
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 місяці тому
​@@mortenpotzdidler2790And I say this as a Spurs can!! I've NEVER ONCE bragged on this game, or photoshopped The Admiral holding paper with "71" on it or sought out highlights of it. Because it's one of his LEAST notable accomplishments. Think "AD setting the All Star Game scoring record"...
@flytipping8314
@flytipping8314 3 місяці тому
​@@mortenpotzdidler2790really, just like Embiid, Mitchell and other present Player
@Joe_Ma99
@Joe_Ma99 3 місяці тому
Hahah you got busted trying to push a bs agenda. 😆
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 3 місяці тому
Officiating that is allowing carrying, travelling, gather steps, etc. and not allowing defense is what's causing the explosion in offensive numbers. That's what makes Kobe's 81 even more impressive. It was clean.
@PharaohsNews
@PharaohsNews 3 місяці тому
What’s funny is I have seen fans say NBA offenses are just so “advanced” and “complex” now. I think on a technical level, the league has taken steps back and fans can see it with things that you mentioned.
@tempest83
@tempest83 3 місяці тому
Thst clip of Booker going in for the dunk comes to mind. He clearly picked up the ball and took 3 steps but the basket still counted.
@seymourbutts5277
@seymourbutts5277 3 місяці тому
@@PharaohsNews 💯. Fundamentally these guys are not good. Even Popovich had said that he's had to spend time teaching basketball fundamentals now, more than he ever had. The AAU culture has bred impressive athletes but not trained ballers. That's why international players are taking over, they actually learn how to play the right way and are more prepared earlier
@PharaohsNews
@PharaohsNews 3 місяці тому
@@seymourbutts5277 I hate to say it, but all the crusty old dudes complaining about Streetball in the early 2000s and where the game was heading were right. Lots of highlights, big numbers, but it’s more like And-1 than ever before
@andrewcook1246
@andrewcook1246 3 місяці тому
​@@PharaohsNews offensive schemes and talent is miles beyond previous decades. What a casual you must be
@Jo-Mamaa
@Jo-Mamaa 3 місяці тому
No Hand checking, 3 point shooting over post or mid range plays r contributing factors. You have to keep things in perspective, to adjust for today’s rules to compare past eras scores. Can you imagine MJ without hand checking?
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 3 місяці тому
He would also be allowed to travel and carry every time he got the ball as well. Also, the lane would be wide open because defenders literally get out of the way now as opposed to actually playing defense
@dimitrijekulak3347
@dimitrijekulak3347 3 місяці тому
@@johndodo2062 They have to do that in order to protect the 3 point line, dummy
@rdelacruz8949
@rdelacruz8949 3 місяці тому
MJ would have been a 40ppg scorer with no hand-checking
@thedailygreatness
@thedailygreatness 3 місяці тому
@@johndodo2062 Yeah, the traveling blank check is the most bizarre of all of this. Calling offensive fouls, especially charges should be 2nd on this list.
@SDesWriter
@SDesWriter 3 місяці тому
Or if he had been coached since high school by pros to have perfect form for long-distance shots? He wouldn't have to be Curry......if he could have shot 40% from 3 instead of sub 33% he would have averaged 40 EASY.
@Ill_trigger_you_lol
@Ill_trigger_you_lol 3 місяці тому
Fun fact: 2002 Lakers vs Nets Game 4. There was a total of 28 3-pointers shot between both teams, 15 were made. Lakers win. Fast forward 20 years later 2022 Warriors vs Celtics Finals Game 6. There was a total of 74 3-pointers shot between both teams. 30 were made. GSW win. That’s 46 extra 3 pointers lol
@rdelacruz8949
@rdelacruz8949 3 місяці тому
Rules changes that only favor the offense is what changed
@dontbeasucka.61
@dontbeasucka.61 3 місяці тому
The n b a Knows that Offense is what Puts the fans in the seats... And that's why they relax the rules on defense.
@Dopeamiine
@Dopeamiine 2 місяці тому
@@dontbeasucka.61 then why was the 90's the most popular for the NBA and the last 10 years the NBA has been declining i mean did u even see the all-star game this year? i didn't watch it cause last year was just as bad and i knew it was going to he nothing but a circle jerk i can go to the wreck center and watch that bullsht
@mxchael9931
@mxchael9931 3 місяці тому
Simple. Lack of ball pressure in defending on the ball, hands on their side, backpedaling and reacting to the offense instead of defenders being the agressors and teams in the regular season run the same defensive scheme in the regular season and don’t adapt their coverages to
@everia_games
@everia_games 3 місяці тому
It's hard to be aggressive when fouls get called so much
@Em4gdn1m
@Em4gdn1m 3 місяці тому
Unless something changes, we will see someone break 100 points, and a team surpass 200 points in a single game within the next 3 years.
@gameinformationpokertheory
@gameinformationpokertheory 3 місяці тому
Nope, this should not happen any time soon. There is a Maximum level for Pace and Efficiency - the NBA is almost there. At the 100 shots per team each game is the Maximum given the 48 minutes mark. Yes, both teams can push the ball to increase Pace and use the 7 Seconds or less to get more shots up…but, even if both teams are willing to use all 15 Players to maintain this crazy Pace it could not be done for 82 Games. The NBA is what it is today because it is run by the Quantitative departments to increase Pace and Efficiency to achieve higher scoring to make the Game more exciting. Players like Victor Wembanyama might one day break Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 Points in a Game with 3-Pts shooting, Scoring in the Paint and lots of Free Throws when the clock isn’t moving. 100 Points in a Game is exhausting…the athleticism takes a special Player to have an incredible game where the other team has to be close to justify the usage. 🤓🏀
@peterakinrinade5170
@peterakinrinade5170 3 місяці тому
The lack of Defense is not actually the "problem". It's that ever since GSWs reign, teams have been copying that brand to the point that no team has identities anymore. There's no Grit and Grind Memphis or Lob City Clippers anymore. Every team is a watered down version of Golden state
@taetrrtot6205
@taetrrtot6205 3 місяці тому
Defense isn't the only factor but I'd say it's one of the two largest contributing factors. The other being 3pt shooting/spacing
@dash4800
@dash4800 3 місяці тому
Defense is absolutely the biggest factor. Watch these games and count how many of the shots are essentially uncontested. When guys are already at 50 pts and the defense is still just letting them take open shots or walk to the rim for a free layup thats a defense problem.
@johnsepulvedacruz6428
@johnsepulvedacruz6428 3 місяці тому
It's defense and rules being broken. Than other stuff like what you said
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 3 місяці тому
It's so obvious why the rules were changed and that is the problem. LeBron throws an elbow in the lane while carrying and traveling and they call a foul on the defense. They've been doing that shit for him for over a decade. All they did was apply that same level of stupidity to the rest of the league, and now here we are. Golden state has nothing to do with this
@taxationistheft7
@taxationistheft7 3 місяці тому
Lack of defense and rules being unfavorable for defenders is absolutely the reason what you talking about
@randywright7627
@randywright7627 3 місяці тому
I started watching nba games again after a long break a few weeks ago. The lack of defense really stands out. Watching ncaa games it makes it really noticeable,they are so much better.
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 3 місяці тому
Stupid take. Frank kaminsky would score 100 against NCAA players
@rickcarlocubillas2501
@rickcarlocubillas2501 3 місяці тому
​@@dumbassdude8372a stupid take on first take. Relative talent played by relative players on the same game which is basketball. An idiot calling out a sane logic is very amusing..😂😂
@zxcvb3772
@zxcvb3772 3 місяці тому
@@dumbassdude8372 Wow an NBA player would do well against NCAA players? Who would've thought? What about Jokic, Giannis, Luka etc all said that NBA rules are easier to score in than international rules? It's a fact that it's easier to score in the NBA, and every single offense metrics show that.
@randywright7627
@randywright7627 3 місяці тому
@dumbassdude8372 Yeah, I guess Steve Kerr doesn't know what he's talking about, either. Kerr told a reporter for the mercury news that the nba needs to change defensive positioning rules that favor the offense, limiting how defense is played now. To my point earlier, yes ncaa players do a better job playing defense and for someone like myself that enjoys the technical side of basketball, the fundamentals, ncaa basketball is my favorite.
@allengreene9954
@allengreene9954 3 місяці тому
@@randywright7627. NCAA is not enjoyable to watch. Teams struggling just to get to 50 Points🤢🤢🤢🤢
@johndodo2062
@johndodo2062 3 місяці тому
It was outlawed when the realized lebron would likely average 14 points without the help. He gets away with so much shit it's crazy. He should be getting at least 3 technical could ever game the way he acts
@wizmanballin8498
@wizmanballin8498 3 місяці тому
Ahhhhhh, someone who truly understands why the NBA is total garbage now. Those rule changes on his watch benefit HIM!
@dingdong3335
@dingdong3335 3 місяці тому
Seems like it's still not enough as he needs help every year. Maybe his fans should start getting into the draft and start helping him actively on the court.
@PharaohsNews
@PharaohsNews 3 місяці тому
Push offs with his off arm, travels, carries, doesn’t play defense, cherry picking offense, and the way the lane clear for any player who goes up for a layup now. Yup. But his fans just recite numbers.
@dereed5222
@dereed5222 3 місяці тому
Lmao. When did y’all start watching basketball? LeBron was averaging 25 ppg back when defense in the league was much tougher and had no help in Cleveland! 😂😂😂
@wizmanballin8498
@wizmanballin8498 3 місяці тому
@@dereed5222 Because he was given the green light to score whenever he wanted to. So much so that the star players beside him were complaining about it. Yes, I was there for all of it because one of them came from my Washington Wizards squad, Larry Hughes.
@JoshuaAlo
@JoshuaAlo 3 місяці тому
Perhaps more defense highlights from ESPN etc. Scoring is cool, but fans can appreciate good D. One of my favorite moments in a close game is when there’s seconds on the clock and all defenders are locking up.
@manalonedies
@manalonedies 3 місяці тому
Between the disparity of fouls called, free throws awarded and "judgement calls" (usually in favor of specific players and teams) there can be no cohesive defense strategy in today's game. It seems to depend upon the referee's feelings, the players playing and the teams playing.
@ThePenitentSquirrel
@ThePenitentSquirrel 3 місяці тому
I can't help wondering if this is a result of players sort of mentally checking out or simply pacing themselves out in the regular season and then tightening up for the playoffs (ex. Nugget's Defense went from meh' to pretty good in the last years post season). Either way, seeing a team like the Pacers (not that I think they're bad) score 140 or more points routinely enough for me to notice is kind of messed up for a kid that grew up in the 90's.
@wookdog954
@wookdog954 3 місяці тому
Rigged and magnet balls, simple as that
@JohnathanTotten-oh9vy
@JohnathanTotten-oh9vy 2 місяці тому
Tinfoil
@elhajjmalikel6266
@elhajjmalikel6266 2 місяці тому
True. David Blain told us....
@Goose8585
@Goose8585 3 місяці тому
Personally i think it's just current officiating. Really lame from a competitive perspective, but also i feel like refs are doing some tomfoolery in the regular season games, which is allowing some of the super talented stars to pull of these numbers against some of the lower rated teams.
@loganerb3952
@loganerb3952 3 місяці тому
I think it comes down to 3 things… 1. Offensive schemes and player development has changed… everyone is shooting 3s as opposed to mid range plus there’s less post ups and more uncontested layups 2. The league favors offense far too much with its rules… you can’t even contest a jump shot anymore without an offensive player kicking their legs out or falling down and getting 3 Fts… plus they let guys like Harden or Trae Young travel, carry and then bail them out with ticky tack foul calls 3. The evaluation of players has evolved and the league values scoring more than defense. Think of the lineups that were played in the 2000s… you played 2 7 footers that rarely could shoot past mid range. You had freak athletes on the wing who rarely were shooters or the exact opposite. Now everyone has to shoot… everyone has to be able to score or they are not considered valuable… this inherent shift along with the rules changes and evolution of offensive schemes have made it nearly impossible to play defense I also feel if I had a 4th bullet it would be that a lot of players don’t put in the effort in defense anymore… they’re in it for the long haul and aren’t selling out night to night
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Місяць тому
there's effort on defense. But back then defense was much easier to play, now it's the other way around
@brettrobbins2707
@brettrobbins2707 3 місяці тому
I would like to know the playoff stats vs the season stats, most of these players dont play hard and risk injury on the defensive side because the season doesnt mean anything. But in the playoffs you see a completely different game of basketball.
@cordsmith7350
@cordsmith7350 2 місяці тому
When people say todays players don’t play defense i just think about these players Rudy Wemby Ad Jackson jr Brook Giannis Kawhi PG Jrue Holiday Mikal Bridges Pat bev Draymond Jarrett Allen Vando Chet Bam Antman SGA Derrick white Embiid Smart Fox Evan Mobley Myles turner Jimmy Tatum J brown Nic CLAXTON I can name more
@stampscapes
@stampscapes 3 місяці тому
They're scoring more in many of the games this year (in regulation!) than a lot of the All Star games over the past 20 years. I was telling someone that some of the games seem like exhibition games. I don't think the Globetrotters even scored as much. Once the playoffs begin, games will back to the old "normal" probably?
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 місяці тому
NOT EVEN "exhibition" games!! It's PRACTICE, while keeping score.
@stampscapes
@stampscapes 3 місяці тому
Lol. So right.@@darrengordon-hill
@leastvieweverreally
@leastvieweverreally 3 місяці тому
It’s also telling how on the other side of the coin where even if your defense is exceptional, if you can’t shoot, you won’t see the floor. You will be subbed out. A lot was made about Jarred Vanderbilt being a sort of modern Rodman. His role has varied and while you can blame Darvin Ham for that his value on defense doesn’t supersede his lack of shooting, kind of crazy.
@DIAB10mtmg
@DIAB10mtmg 3 місяці тому
You lost me on this channel soon as you said todays defense is exceptionally better than 60s and 70s 😂😂😂
@And.One.Hoops1
@And.One.Hoops1 3 місяці тому
You think the defensive talent of a bunch of 5-9 white guys with 9-5 jobs was better defense ?
@horaceharris1855
@horaceharris1855 3 місяці тому
That's been debunked many times already.
@getabuck
@getabuck 3 місяці тому
@@And.One.Hoops1bruh it was much more than 9-5 white guys in the NBA during 60s -70s do your research gang
@oocinom
@oocinom 3 місяці тому
There are more skilled players in todays NBA. If defense were the problem then majority of the players would score 25ppg.
@tycoleman9226
@tycoleman9226 3 місяці тому
Yuh more skilled then there was just 5 seasons ago. While I think players do get a little more skilled as generations go on that doesn’t solely constitute a meteoric rise in offensive production in under 5 years there’s obviously other factors at play.
@roddarodda2080
@roddarodda2080 3 місяці тому
It’s completely out of control it won’t be long before we scores in the 200s
@SitBackandChill12
@SitBackandChill12 3 місяці тому
What defense?..when the worst team in the NBA is scoring 110pts per game, it's basically 2k on easy mode..
@gamesmash9859
@gamesmash9859 3 місяці тому
I don't think defense is completely dead, once the playoffs come around then that level of effort comes back. But I do think the league defense is trending in the wrong direction, especially in the regular season. I really don't want to watch games consistently end 140-138. That's a little ridiculous. With that said, I'm not sure what can be done, because I also dont want a return to early 00s basketball where games frequently ended with scores under 80.
@taetrrtot6205
@taetrrtot6205 3 місяці тому
The league is different from back then I doubt we'll ever go back to seeing those types of scores regularly again without drastic changes to the game
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Місяць тому
@@taetrrtot6205 yeah we don't need to being seeing game 7 of the 2006 ECF Pistons vs Cavs where the final score was 79-61. We also don't need the 1998 finals game 3 where the Jazz scored 54 points. But we also don't need super high scoring. Today's NBA is nowhere near as bad as some people make it sound. Just call travels, moving screens, and carries consistently, and change 3 seconds to 6 or 7
@taetrrtot6205
@taetrrtot6205 Місяць тому
@@legendarywiimaster I think there can be a healthy balance between offense and defense and that's what I personally want the league to aim for
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Місяць тому
@@taetrrtot6205 well what Dumars said about "looking into it" might be the start of the rebalance. As a modern NBA fan, teams averaging between 100-103 points seems like a sweet spot
@taetrrtot6205
@taetrrtot6205 Місяць тому
@@legendarywiimaster yeah that sounds about perfect
@B5Sybok
@B5Sybok 3 місяці тому
Bring back hand checking and abolish def 3 second rule.
@winterwolf9376
@winterwolf9376 3 місяці тому
Defense does not sell jerseys, arena tickets or network contracts. It's purely a business decision orchestrated by the ownership group of the association. The legitimate competition aspect of the NBA has been dead for quite some time now.
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 2 місяці тому
Men’s College Basketball is objectively a better product nowadays. Variety of team strategy, a good mix of offense and defense, parity across the board. Even then, college basketball had a major issue with the three point shot a few years ago. They changed the distance on the shot and the games been much better since.
@MaryAYoung
@MaryAYoung 2 місяці тому
And mens college basketball is horrible. Horrible! I watch ncaa tournament games from 1987-1997 over and over again. It felt like life or death at those games. Womens college basketball is pretty good, but the title race will be between 5-6 teams. No drama until the end. The nba playoffs are decent, but the regular season is bad. * went to a pelicans game the other night and the lack of effort besides anyone but Jose Alvarado was troubling. I’m not going back
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 2 місяці тому
@@MaryAYoung Mens college basketball is great right now, what are you talking about?
@MaryAYoung
@MaryAYoung 2 місяці тому
@@g.williams2047 beauty is in the eye of the beholder
@Pseudog831
@Pseudog831 3 місяці тому
Defense Strength Rankings since the 90s : 1 > 2 ≥ 3 > 4 >>> 5 1. early 00s : Zone defense + defensive 3 seconds + still 90s hand-checking rules + no gather step 2. 90s : illegal defense + no defensive 3seconds + 90s hand-checking rules + no gather step 3. Mid-00s : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + Enforced hand-checking rules + no gather step 4. Late 00s to mid 10s : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + enforced hand-checking rules + Gather step implemented 5. Late 10s ~ : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + enforced hand-checking rules + Gather step + 3-point shooting era + no Traveling + no Carrying + no offensive fouls
@ven1939
@ven1939 3 місяці тому
I think the ability of everyone from 1-5 position that can shoot makes it hard to play defense. There is so much positionless basketball like Pacers for Instance doesn't even have true Center. Myles is more of Power Forward than a center same with Segun. There are so many players that don't play their position oldschool way now that makes it hard defend. Especially players that can shoot the ball beyond 27ft away from basket and hit those shots with ease
@Ivander85
@Ivander85 3 місяці тому
The NBA should start by calling the obvious travels, carries, moving sceens, and stop favouring the offensive end more often than not. It has quite frankly gotten boring watching some of these in-season all star games where teams just go up and down, trading baskets with little resistance. 40 point quarters are not even worth mentioning anymore. NBA players are already shooting better and scoring more easily than ever, we don't need the refs and league as a whole to further put fuel into this dumpsterfire. Teams used to have different styles and identities, now it's a giant melting pot of "who can score even more". The Knicks and Wolves might be the only teams with a true defense-first approach.
@kfnccook
@kfnccook 2 місяці тому
Of course, scoring percentages are gonna go up when it's easier to get a shot off. People are not as worried as they used to be about getting blocked
@SpeedHomeAttack
@SpeedHomeAttack 3 місяці тому
The NBA has seen a surge in talent while also a surge in watering down the quality of the game. It used to be special and rare when players would get a triple double. Now it’s just expected
@digitalian99
@digitalian99 3 місяці тому
i already find the lack of defense.. or to be more clear.. how much defense is being hampered by rules it makes the nba boring
@ScottySkilz1
@ScottySkilz1 3 місяці тому
i think a lot of it is the younger teams ability to run the court, especially a team like the Pacers, who are loaded with players. They are young, can run and gun, with zero effort on getting back or being physical on defense.
@zirbto5749
@zirbto5749 3 місяці тому
but the two of the youngest teams in the nba the magic and okc are good defensively
@Jmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjm1
@Jmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjmjm1 3 місяці тому
Seems like everyone’s default response is “there’s no defense anymore”. We’re just in a phase, and the game will evolve. Someone or someones will figure out a new way to exploit the weaknesses of the game in its current state, and the evolution will continue.
@marcoabesensei
@marcoabesensei 3 місяці тому
I guess we could see the results of this trend on FIBA World Cup, where USA gave too many Offensive Rebounds and show some lack of defensive teamwork... maybe having some FIBA rules might reverse this trend.
@pillbox1240
@pillbox1240 3 місяці тому
I’d like to see the 3 second defense rule go to 10 seconds. Let big guys just hang around the rim and block shots and mug dunkers. Foul baiting sucks. should penalize offensive flop heads like Harden and LeBron by letting the other team shoot 3 FTs. Eliminate 3 pointers on the sides, 26 feet at all angels.
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Місяць тому
LeBron doesn't even shoot that many freethrows
@milktea2422
@milktea2422 3 місяці тому
I think we have to also factor in the fact that the best players on these teams are the people running up the court with the ball. It used to be the point guard trying to facilitate to do whatever, but now it’s Giannis, or just whoever is the best player getting the ball. And I mean, why can’t these guys get 70? Teams get to 120. If Luka just gets the ball all the time and isn’t missing, then he’s gonna get 70. The stars nowadays are basically like Kobe and will just score and probably ask their teammates to get the ball. So what’s the difference from 2 years ago when a player got 50 points, and another got 20? Well the 50 point player got all the shots the 20 point player has now. Team might as well be 2014-2018 Argentina, since all they do is pass the ball to Messi (Luka, Embiid, Devin Booker) and they basically just hope they can create something out of it. Which obviously Messi can, these guys can. But in the play offs, they’ll have a bad game or two, and they’ll lose. This is a one time thing. These guys barely get more points than their average in the playoffs. So yeah, Messi can score 5 goals back in the day, but Argentina only actually got good, when they didn’t solely play through him. So why do we even care? The teams they are scoring these massive numbers against are really bad teams. They probably are never getting close to 70 in the playoffs because it’s better teams that are trying harder.
@bobbywinstead1
@bobbywinstead1 2 місяці тому
No charges, travels, and carries explains a lot, and is very understated. Even if you're hand-checked, an extra step would negate that advantage anyway.
@BJofEarth
@BJofEarth 3 місяці тому
Personally, I think it's only a matter of time until someone beats Kobe's career high of 81. It's crazy to think that we have had four 70+ point scorers over just the past two seasons.
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster Місяць тому
Doubt it. You really would have to go off
@CL__01
@CL__01 3 місяці тому
Absolutely Correct! That's my thoughts on this.
@MjBjDi
@MjBjDi 3 місяці тому
I won’t say the nba is trash. I grew up on it. I love the game. But…. Talent hasn’t increased. Defense has decreased. Drastically. No way you have 3 players score 50+ in the same week. This is ridiculous. It’s all start weekend every game. Ok… I won’t say this for every team. Nuggets are monsters, gsw do fight provided that had a hand in inadvertently teams to “just shoot 3s”. Defense is married to offense… I just don’t really see it these days.
@timl9724
@timl9724 3 місяці тому
I blame Steve Nash and D'Antoni. Or should I say "Antoni" with no D.
@tatangskickers1262
@tatangskickers1262 3 місяці тому
todays NBA is soft, unwatchable & at its lowest rating bcoz of LeFraud James & his gf Adam Silver.. flopping, whining, no defense, load managing, the refs, the rules, player self entitled, super teams..etc.. miss the 80s 90s & early 2000 eras
@anonimity5548
@anonimity5548 3 місяці тому
@And.One.Hoops1 Pet peeve of mine: at 8:19 you start a sentence with: "Now, for me personally, I". Who is 'me'? Who does 'personally' mean? Who is 'I'? See where i'm going?
@TheXev
@TheXev 3 місяці тому
The NBA went to far when it got rid of Hand checking. The game has been a boring scoring show ever since. Defense doesn't matter, and traveling isn't called worth a damn either now. Bring back hand checking and defense, and maybe I'll tune back in after all of these years of boring basketball.
@23rdJar
@23rdJar 3 місяці тому
It makes sense to intruct a player to focus more on offense because offensive talent is too good for defenses now. You should check out LOWs video on this if you havent yet. This isnt just teams prioritizing offense with who they hire. Offensive talent is just progressing so quickly that defenses cant keep up. The players arent worse on defense
@davelinsalata8012
@davelinsalata8012 3 місяці тому
Thats false. The defenses of the 80s n 90s would destroy these modern day teams.
@g.williams2047
@g.williams2047 2 місяці тому
Depends on which era of rules they play in.
@djolemadzarevic
@djolemadzarevic 3 місяці тому
What happened to NBA basketball as a whole? No strategy, tactics, imagination, skill, intelligence... just frantically running, jumping, and shooting as soon as you see the basket. If there was no Jokić, it would be unwatchable.
@LL-iy7bg
@LL-iy7bg 3 місяці тому
You can watch euroleague and btw, great Kobi score on shity Toronto defense to.
@And.One.Hoops1
@And.One.Hoops1 3 місяці тому
Are you saying they play better defense in the EuroLeague?
@LL-iy7bg
@LL-iy7bg 3 місяці тому
@@And.One.Hoops1 34 games,max 41 to the finale. Every game matters.Its all one big play off. In NBA 82 games + playoff.They cant play hard every game.
@peacocca190
@peacocca190 3 місяці тому
@@LL-iy7bg They can too. As proof I give you the fact that they used to.
@LL-iy7bg
@LL-iy7bg 3 місяці тому
@@peacocca190They can,yes.But not every team,every game.
@balthorpayne
@balthorpayne 3 місяці тому
While lack of defense is a thing, the offensive schemes of today are incredible. When the 2nd guy off the bench can still hit 3s at 40%, a lot of games is simply P&R to kickout. Swing a few times to the open man while the broadcasters and fans complain about your team not defending that...as if it isn't literally the strat every team runs. The proliferation of 3pt ball has made it so that even reinstituting some old rules won't necessarily change player behavior. We see Memphis have most of their starters go down with injury...how does the 2nd tier guys stay in games? Run up the court and jack a 3. I knew when 3 on 1 fastbreaks still led to a 3pt attempt that there was no going back to 90s'-early 2k ball.
@curtishenry7926
@curtishenry7926 3 місяці тому
You're absolutely right about that. JJ Reddick made a video about how and why offenses are evolving and getting harder to defend in the modern nba
@balthorpayne
@balthorpayne 3 місяці тому
@@curtishenry7926 Yea, and its made my approach to watching as a fan different. Back in the day, I loved watching Man to Man coverage where you have to chase a guy and do everything you can to stop him. Now? You are going to get a million screens, some of which are going to be uncalled moving screens, and in the case that you do your job as a defender, they have still managed to suck attention into the paint leading to *someone* being open for a 3. I have seen this script play out a lot with my team (The Bulls) where they do everything right defensively but in the last 3-4 seconds of a possession there happens to be a guy open on the elbow or corner who spots for a 3. How do you guard that 40+ times a game? You can't. Some are going to go down. The only way around that is to force every opponent off of the perimeter and into the paint which puts stupid pressure on the center especially if its a 5-out offense.
@entium1
@entium1 3 місяці тому
just adding hand checking back will screw a shooter up, every try to shoot a shot as, just before going up getting bumped, ya know how much harder it is to hit that shot? That is the problem its not the 3 pointer, its the lack of the defense cause the rules don't allow it anymore more. Now you know why it used to be live by the three and die by the three, cause the shooting % will go down when you have just a little be more physicality of the hand check.
@entium1
@entium1 3 місяці тому
yeah Reddick also talks a lot of shit. You might want to ask Dominique Wilkins about what Reddick talks about. @@curtishenry7926
@curtishenry7926
@curtishenry7926 3 місяці тому
@entium1 The problem with that is hand-checking would only solve iso ball play and not off-ball and player movement heavy offenses
@cssjcs7604
@cssjcs7604 3 місяці тому
Kobe didnt have anyone playing stong defense on him in that 81 point game. Jalen rose only guarded him for a few plays. And jalen was a terrible defender regardless. That 81 point kobe game was impressive, but no one was playing great or good defense on him thats for sure.
@Jayevonte
@Jayevonte 3 місяці тому
U can’t really play defense because spacing it’s way harder to play defense than ever
@ime4rth434
@ime4rth434 3 місяці тому
The NBAs Rating Were Down So They Turned Defence Off and Turned Fouls For Nothing On Too :)
@Dora_D_Destroyer
@Dora_D_Destroyer 3 місяці тому
Adam silver is to blame. Everything is a foul everything is a technical. Everything is not a travel.
@allenross3050
@allenross3050 3 місяці тому
“Transition take foul”
@j_c_d_b
@j_c_d_b 2 місяці тому
You can thank the golden state warriors for why it seems like there’s no defense
@patbenz4327
@patbenz4327 2 місяці тому
The GSW were defense juggernaut, though.
@SDesWriter
@SDesWriter 3 місяці тому
People have to stop lumping in Luka's game with Towns and Embiid. Both of them played in a game where nobody on the other team was playing defense (except in the 4th quarter with Towns......which stopped him cold). Luka was just hitting RIDICULOUS shots under heavy pressure. He was beating double-teams and every individual defender they could throw at him. The man shot 75% from the field. If he was standing alone out there that would be impressive. The layups he did get were under heavy pressure. That was a legit all-time great game.
@rapz85
@rapz85 3 місяці тому
Good defense takes a lot of effort, grit, and determination, not to mention the fact that the more you try on defense, the worse it looks if you get put on your ass or dunked on. None of those things fit 98% to 99% of NBA players today because they just ain't cool.
@vincentflannigan2727
@vincentflannigan2727 3 місяці тому
Defense has been legislated out of the league
@michaeljohnson2000
@michaeljohnson2000 3 місяці тому
Shit like this is why LeBron scoring record don't mean shit
@CementJuice
@CementJuice 3 місяці тому
Yeah it’s just due to ZERO D and unlimited floor spacing . It has nothing to do with this “ amazing “ talent that’s the best ever . Bring back some Hand checking and you won’t be seeing this often . It’s actually embarrassing seeing what the nba has become .
@1GoodWoman
@1GoodWoman 3 місяці тому
How much of defense essentially pulling its punches is fear of injuring another player? All the players are in a kind of wealthy players club which makes it a shared insider club against the world perhaps.
@And.One.Hoops1
@And.One.Hoops1 3 місяці тому
I actually think about that as well.....feel like guys don't go as hard on defense just to avoid injuries
@calebammann2386
@calebammann2386 3 місяці тому
Absolutely goated content creator. Speaks facts
@danielmagnuson9986
@danielmagnuson9986 3 місяці тому
We don’t enjoy it. It’s not basketball. They travel all the time, they carry it and get away with it. Nobody can play tough defense. It’s trashketball
@bigbangbasketball
@bigbangbasketball 3 місяці тому
Still waiting for footage of Wilt’s 100 pt game
@JamesBond77
@JamesBond77 3 місяці тому
They fucked defense up with putting a condom my guy.
@evilkep7390
@evilkep7390 3 місяці тому
All the fuckery with the rules over the last decade or so turning every modern game into a boring shoot 300 3s. They've completely ruined the game
@emanueltavares353
@emanueltavares353 3 місяці тому
You are not allowed to play defense in the NBA. Everything is a foul
@MoonLightsxID
@MoonLightsxID 3 місяці тому
You could see the "attention to detail" defense on playoffs
@CroDubr0vnik
@CroDubr0vnik 3 місяці тому
No defense in NBA.
@gameimprovements4347
@gameimprovements4347 3 місяці тому
There is no problem with the NBA.. An entertainment/ highlight reel product is what they're going for.. They know most people don't watch the regular season anymore! If you want to watch a real basketball game than go and watch Fiba or Euroball..
@user-gp9ft2pc8i
@user-gp9ft2pc8i 3 місяці тому
Shit is garbage
@wilsvgaddiction4456
@wilsvgaddiction4456 3 місяці тому
I don't knwo what gae you're watching but it already is boring to watch because the game lacks balance. It ISN'T impressive when these guys score 70 as they slowly trot around the 3 point line and take their time to take a jump shot or clumsily take 4-5 steps to the basket without putting the ball on the floor. Today's game is a disgrace.
@spartamykonos
@spartamykonos 3 місяці тому
Shooting 3’s over the last 5+ years or so is like the steroid era in baseball when anyone in the lineup could go yard. It took away every other aspect of the game. In baseball during that era, basic fundamentals disappeared. Teams relied on the home run, or bust. The same goes for basketball. Everyone can shoot and make 3’s. Seven footers shoot 3’s like SG’s. Just like baseball, basketball has become a boring, one dimensional drag.
@MowMajors
@MowMajors 2 місяці тому
What are you watching if you not willing to say...... ZITS ALREADY OUT OF CONTROLL. And if Regular season Pro basketball was not already effort lacking enough, well now its just becoming a pickup game with the greatest pñayer in the world playing in them...., SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE
@payeeang7838
@payeeang7838 3 місяці тому
Nba hurting the American players go watch last year's fiba team USA giving up 130pts in a 40 mins game. Even guys like Luka Jokic avg less stats in international games with playing basically the same mins
@kaksmirknight5318
@kaksmirknight5318 3 місяці тому
Yes defense is the primary problem of this league, next to it is the entitlement of these brats. Take away these player flowers and femove Silver ears that's the first step of how to fix this crap league. They think they can foo the people by just having 70 points a lot in a season. But the NBa's problem is their target audience are the kids and Kiddo minded aint working for the mature once.
@kfnccook
@kfnccook 2 місяці тому
When you give the players too much power, they'll get together and not care about the product. And just rake in the money while poor fans have to fight just to get to a game that they're probably gonna sit out of while we pay our 😢money
@leecorleone
@leecorleone 3 місяці тому
they built a league for ratings and LeFraud was the propaganda poster child
@Joe_Ma99
@Joe_Ma99 3 місяці тому
Did any of you actually watch Luka’s game? There were 1 or 2 bad defensive breakdowns. That does not mean the hawks didn’t play defense. Luka was just on one.
@legendarywiimaster
@legendarywiimaster 2 місяці тому
Also, a lot of the top performances in NBA history come against defensive teams
@joshstixxfata
@joshstixxfata 3 місяці тому
Yeah I stopped watching the nba after Covid. It’s just not the same no more. MMA is far more exciting and competitive now so I watch that
@judyseager4450
@judyseager4450 3 місяці тому
Same as Poole in life OK ✨️
@darrengordon-hill
@darrengordon-hill 3 місяці тому
EVERYTHING IS FINE IN THE NBA!! I know this due to the MANY videos telling me so. No conspiracy/script/mass email instructions here...
@reggiefurlow1
@reggiefurlow1 3 місяці тому
They perfected scoring simple
@turbotravis2323
@turbotravis2323 3 місяці тому
8:09 the integrity and competitiveness of the game is already ruined, it's just getting worse now. Professional basketball will never return to its peak or former glory.
@And.One.Hoops1
@And.One.Hoops1 3 місяці тому
I wouldn't go that far.....the sport is still very exciting and brings a lot of viewership
@turbotravis2323
@turbotravis2323 3 місяці тому
@@And.One.Hoops1 To each their own, but I don't think every game being a 3-point contest is exciting at all. The game is so boring to watch now, and even the games that are exciting to watch the refs somehow end up ruining them. Today's league sucks bad.
@DarkStalker-oc5lk
@DarkStalker-oc5lk 3 місяці тому
Defense left the chat many years ago, the nba is a f*cking joke 🙃
@PhuryousOne
@PhuryousOne 3 місяці тому
It's almost unwatchable. I think I'd rather watch hockey, football, baseball, or NASCAR over basketball.
@kfnccook
@kfnccook 2 місяці тому
Players are not better it's just easier to score
@nanathegoat5106
@nanathegoat5106 3 місяці тому
NBA has become boring af. Look at NFL games yday, Chiefs defense ATE. It was super fun to watch. Nowadays, people just run around and shoot 3s,....thinking of getting into NHL instead.
@willwon8962
@willwon8962 3 місяці тому
Those high-scoring games are boring to watch. No hand-checking, no 80s, 90s basketball style - just offensive display - boring...... Players like Curry, Harden, Embiid, Doncic, Towns, Booker are overrated. The traveling violation of these players like LBJ, Harden (worst offender of them all) are insufferable.
@kfnccook
@kfnccook 2 місяці тому
Come on, man, you all know the answer to this question. The game sucks😢
@jayward8237
@jayward8237 3 місяці тому
A team scoring 145 is a yawn these days. The legendary run & gun Suns of old would be a bottom team in the modern game.
@LimaJayaSRC
@LimaJayaSRC 3 місяці тому
Blame the ref
@dr.wongburger2947
@dr.wongburger2947 3 місяці тому
Bring back defense.
@LuisFlores-se3vu
@LuisFlores-se3vu 3 місяці тому
What happen with defence?when Wilt Chamberlain?
@user-gp9ft2pc8i
@user-gp9ft2pc8i 3 місяці тому
You can’t spell
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 3 місяці тому
Simple answer players are better lol defense has no changed
@wizmanballin8498
@wizmanballin8498 3 місяці тому
To me? All these recent records are simply a way to show the NBA is bleeding terribly and trying a last ditch effort to keep fans engaged. And it's not working. As long as Lebron is allowed to ruin this beautiful game, it will continue to deteriorate.
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