What Happens When You Remove a Dam
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День томуThe US is deconstructing four dams along the Klamath River.
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@TheB1M 11 місяців тому
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@jjc2896 11 місяців тому
No! Bad B1M. Masterworks is a questionable sponsor.
@jgeur 11 місяців тому
@@jjc2896 right up there with crypto, nft's, and tulips.
@mr.boomguy 11 місяців тому
@@jjc2896 I would like to hear your opinion on why. I'm just curious, not reprimanding
@fourutubez7294 11 місяців тому
Ponzi scheme in a pseudo intellectual wrapper
@jordannieland365 11 місяців тому
You had this video in your folder for quite a while and realized now was the perfect time to play the algorithm, didn't you?
@klein648 11 місяців тому
3:03 "No dam project of this size has ever been torn down" - Well there was a massive dam project that has been torn down in record time just a few days ago. Rip Nova Kakhovka dam
@MrRorySteel 11 місяців тому
Rip Nord stream. America the antagonist as usual.
@mla2385 11 місяців тому
not to think about what toxins are buried in these sedidemts over the decades which are now spilled over the fields. Don't think they can plant any crops there very soon
@seregiel9541 11 місяців тому
@@mla2385 Trust me, the decrease of fires and increase of salmon stock are worth far more. Plus lack of water hurts agg and in OR often hydrodams, fish, and farming are fighting over it. This removes one of the competitions to long term benefit of the farms.
@EddieBurke 11 місяців тому
Inb4 orcs in the comments
@robertmusil1107 11 місяців тому
Good one
@GeekyMedia 11 місяців тому
This video has obviously been in development for a while (like most of the B1M vids I’d imagine). You can’t just create a video like this in a day. Also, last weeks video was on the creation of a dam/reservoir - this is like the other side of that. Either way, great work The B1M 👍
@Mrbfgray 11 місяців тому
Meanwhile in Ukraine....a dam is removed overnight.
@RamonInNZ 11 місяців тому
@@Mrbfgray 😞
@Locutus 10 місяців тому
Most professional UKposts videos take about a week to produce. This video would have taken a week or two to produce, although little bits of it might have been produced months ago.
@Church_Of_Kloppism 9 місяців тому
@@Locutustry months not weeks lol. Some of these take months to make
@Locutus 9 місяців тому
@@Church_Of_Kloppism Lol, lol, lol, lol. Soooo sooo funny. Lol.
@alexandermallinckrodt2847 11 місяців тому
I think Russia’s just conducted the world’s largest dam removal, actually.
@Madridista789 11 місяців тому
@@Zuluknob Ruzzia.
@michelbruns 11 місяців тому
@@Zuluknob yes, ukraine destroys its own infrastructure, risks the live of thousands of its own people only to make russia look even worse than it does already
@Wanderlauch 11 місяців тому
@@Zuluknob 🤡🤡🤡
@mancuniangamecat8288 11 місяців тому
@ zuluknob don't be so gullible. 🤡
@SomeKidFromBritain 11 місяців тому
Too soon
@MrLense 11 місяців тому
Bro really timed releasing this video with this specific topic on top of current recent events
@mr.boomguy 11 місяців тому
My thought too. But I bet they've had planned this video for weeks beforehand. So I'm sure it's just unfortunate coincidence
@hoponlopo8690 11 місяців тому
This is The World's SECOND Largest Dam Removal
@brunor832 11 місяців тому
Dark humor at its finest, I dig it
@bigtxbullion 11 місяців тому
Spontaneous
@gomahklawm4446 11 місяців тому
I don't get it. American meme?
@Pasta_Pirate 11 місяців тому
@@gomahklawm4446 no a Ukrainian & Russian meme.
@Knight_Kin 11 місяців тому
@@gomahklawm4446 Someone blew up a large damn along the Dniper river, it's unclear who did it.
@kevinbrown4892 11 місяців тому
I do hope we are going to follow this story in the upcoming years.
@Nionix123 11 місяців тому
Look up the Elwha River Damn removal
@kevinbrown4892 11 місяців тому
@@Nionix123 Most informative, thanks.
@lohengrin5082 6 місяців тому
It’s certainly a big damn problem
@jdsd_ 2 місяці тому
yeah, lets remove all dams because of the nature and then get huge floods and electricity shortage
@davidlrogers Місяць тому
@@jdsd_ literally nobody said that we should, bozo
@metjetfan23 11 місяців тому
90,000 dams? In the US? Would never have guess that.
@thomashiggins9320 11 місяців тому
Yeah. We spent decades in the late 19th and early 20th centuries building them. Some should always remain -- most of the Tennessee Valley Authority dams need to stay right where they are, as do the ones on the Colorado River. But others -- such as these along the Klamath River, have filled with sediment to such an extent that they have limited utility (and so shallow they cause the algae blooms), and we're a lot more aware of environmental concerns.
@Zantides 11 місяців тому
It's all sorts of sizes though, from hoover dam to beaver dam. I don't know if they count beaver dams 😂
@jayspeidell 11 місяців тому
The US used to have higher taxes and less military spending.
@Tutkanator 11 місяців тому
It's closer to 200,000. Only 30,000 are inventoried
@Knight_Kin 11 місяців тому
@@jayspeidell The US had no income tax during the period these dams were built. Don't make up stuff you clearly know nothing about.
@LuigiMordelAlaume 11 місяців тому
This dam video showing all these dam projects is crazy. Might be time to go on a dam road trip and see these dam structures.
@brandob9 11 місяців тому
I first paddled the Klamath almost 20 years ago, and even at that time the uselessness of these four dams was plainly evident from water level.
@scottjohnston6768 10 місяців тому
do you use electricity?
@brandob9 10 місяців тому
@@scottjohnston6768 I do! But these dams are very easily replaced by a few wind turbines and solar panels. 18 MW of capacity is 4-6 wind turbines now.
@jimperdue6166 10 місяців тому
@@brandob9 I moved to this area 4 years ago, so I am learning the ins and outs of the issue of removing these 4 dams. Clean energy is a goal of not only CA, and the US, but around the globe. Removing the dams removes a source of clean energy. The reservoirs (water) are used for domestic use, farming and sometimes for firefighting. CA has seen the number of devastating fires grow, esp. over the last few years. My family was evacuated from our home last summer because of a wildfire. I know from personal experience the hardship created when our domestic well went dry, two years in a row. Water is a huge deal, not only in CA where I live, but in the southwestern states. Water storage and clean energy are being removed along with the dams. Plus, the property value loss to homeowners who live near the reservoirs, with no compensation from the government. This issue was put before voters and the result was 60-70% of voters want the dams to stay. Ignoring the voice of the voters is a violation of the constitution. What is going to happen to the Klamath River in an extended drought, and there are no reservoirs to release water to help the fish survive? So no, I don't think this is a great idea to remove the dams. And yes, the salmon and other species are important, esp. to the two native tribes who live here. There's got to be a better way.
@TheMasterofComment 10 місяців тому
@@jimperdue6166as the dams actually contributing much to electricity generation if they're below useable water levels most of the time?
@jimperdue6166 10 місяців тому
@@TheMasterofComment I don't know if that is true or not. Even if it were, CA and this area have water problems. Plus wildfires, the reservoirs can be used to help firefighters do their job.
@kn377 6 місяців тому
We've been doing this in Washington state for some years now, really amazing to see after the dam is gone.
@gregessex1851 11 місяців тому
Ironic timing given the destruction of the dam in Ukraine 🇺🇦 today.
@bananan7 11 місяців тому
yesterday though
@GeekyMedia 11 місяців тому
Probably been creating this video for weeks. Last weeks video was also on a dam / reservoir
@mr.boomguy 11 місяців тому
@@GeekyMedia I'm glad someone wrote basically the same thing I just did
@vadimveskreb8764 11 місяців тому
@@GeekyMedia maybe the b1m can predict future?? oh no
@jordannieland365 11 місяців тому
Ironic? This video was probably released to play the algorithm.
@FIGHTTHECABLE 11 місяців тому
So no dams, but grid stability? I don't see this working.
@nighthiker8872 Місяць тому
THIS IS THE NEW, NEW SCIENCE! THE ONE THAT SAYS "GOT YET" again !
@vanguard9067 11 місяців тому
There are so many under-engineered and unsafe smaller dams, we should expect an increasing rate of dam removal during the following decades.
@deus_ex_machina_ 11 місяців тому
When it comes to safety weirs are considerably more dangerous, more numerous, and much cheaper and easier to remove.
@vanguard9067 11 місяців тому
@@deus_ex_machina_ very good point. I don’t think,they are mutually exclusive projects. I would hope that governments and stakeholders prioritize all projects to achieve the most safety, economic, cultural, and environmental benefits .
@deus_ex_machina_ 11 місяців тому
@@vanguard9067 Indeed. I neglected to mention that weirs were more dangerous for those traversing the river, whether swimming or in a canoe/kayak, but they don't pose a flood risk for downstream communities like larger reservoirs do. It also depends on how much you care about ecological damage. A native tribe might come to a very different conclusion than a mining company, on that front. Engineering is a matter of balancing trade-offs, after all, and the US is in for a gargantuan effort repairing and replacing its crumbling infrastructure. The only way to take decisive action while also balancing stakeholders who have competing or even opposing demands is to price in the 'externalities', an example would be a carbon tax. The other option would be to let AI decide, but even that would merely perpetuate our biases in the weights given to the various trade-offs.
@vanguard9067 11 місяців тому
@@deus_ex_machina_ I figured that’s what you meant about weirs. I pictured one in my head on the Potomac River used to ensure the necessary level to feed the Washington, DC water system. Seems every couple of years someone gets trapped (or worse) there. Yes, a gargantuan effort, one for which I am not sure the public understands the necessity. I hope the money spent will evaluate/incorporate e sustainability in project planning, design, construction, and maintenance. Think as long-term as feasible. Ah externalities, so often overlooked, ignored, hidden in unfettered capitalism. I am still shocked that most of the US environmental statutes and regulations were put in place during the Nixon administration, with strong support from both parties. It is hard to imagine that level of agreement now. As one portion of my career, I performed siting analyses and environmental impact assessments, finding that applying weighting on top of ranking of the analytical criteria, resulted in a false sense of accuracy and precision. AI would first need to learn that lesson to be at all useful, but in practice a single person or AI can’t deliver a good result. I prefer a mini-Delphi approach, during which the challenge is identifying the right people to participate. I learned so much from those people, as well has fun doing the work. Have a great day and a nice week.
@r.d.9399 11 місяців тому
The more they remove the better. This is great news.
@sashakimknechtinruprecht 11 місяців тому
In which way is the energy these dams produced replaced? How were they operated in terms of power production? More like peak hour supply or more on a base load pattern? I am not an electric power expert, but I know that in terms of wind- and sun-based power generation it will be important to have complementary possibilities to fill in gaps in windless times with lack of sunny weather.
@melvinice5727 10 місяців тому
Finally someone who has common sense!👺
@robertball3578 10 місяців тому
With the push for electric vehicles of all sizes, and elimination of natural gas, it seems like a bad time to remove power generation until the replacement is in service. Don't fall the coal fired power plants already shut down.
10 місяців тому
Hope they won't solve it in the German way!
@MTNGear 10 місяців тому
Oil and gas have been lobbying hard for the removal of hydro power
@gregorymalchuk272 9 місяців тому
Nope🙃 They just increased interstate imports natural gas and coal fired generation from the upper midwest.
@iztrix 10 місяців тому
I would love to see you going back to this project for the water unleashing when the projects are ready for it. Would be a great followup video with some fun shots of loada of water 😊
@abrahambarr8736 10 місяців тому
I grew up in Siskiyou County (where the dams are) and now live in Klamath Falls. I did some survey work for one of the restoration efforts as well. People have been arguing about this project since I was a kid so its pretty cool to see it get featured here!
@ElDJReturn 11 місяців тому
Thanks for covering my state! This is quite an impressive project!
@wileycoyote556 11 місяців тому
It's also an absolutely insane, irresponsible destruction of low-carbon energy infrastructure that we will regret for generations.
@Clove_Parma 11 місяців тому
@@wileycoyote556 There are methods of low carbon energy production that don't destroy fish populations and habitats. That said I reckon they should keep hydro in the mix until there's enough solar and wind power to justify removal without putting pollution targets backward
@wileycoyote556 11 місяців тому
Wind and solar don't replace load-following electricity capacity, they don't even provide base load capacity. You can build as much as you want and it won't replace these dams, ironically the best type of storage for wind and solar is hydro storage. Wind and solar also use a massive amount of land and have a detrimental effect on many species of animal for this reason (and others, for wind.)
@thomashiggins9320 11 місяців тому
@@wileycoyote556 These dams are so full of sediment, after 100 years, they've nearly reached the end of the useful lives anyway.
@wileycoyote556 11 місяців тому
Throwing away infrastructure without replacing is not the answer to issues with extended maintenence. Multiple strategies exist to address sedimentation in dams, tearing it down is not necessary and no expert source that I've seen has stated that it is. Oregon won't replace this power with wind and solar, in fact the primary fuel source among east Oregon utilities is coal.
@gaivscaesar 11 місяців тому
Thanks for another great video buff architecture man
@user-gj5wr2qt7q 11 місяців тому
DamNation 2014 - Great documentary about US dams and their removal.... A touch old but holds up.
@haydenhatcher9314 7 місяців тому
As a local of these areas I love to see this topic get some discussion
@michaelmontgomery5141 11 місяців тому
Abalone fishing was greatly diminished after environmental laws were implemented in the 1960’s. This created an enormous turn around in Pacific Ocean ecosystem along the California Coast. As evidenced by increasing sea otter population et al. Salmon provides the same foundation for ecosystems all the way into Idaho. We are part of this ecosystem and I wish to play the role of gardener as opposed to conqueror (manifest destiny).
@ersp1 11 місяців тому
Something that many people don't realize is that the spawning fish are an important nitrogen (fertilizer) source in the watershed. The animals catching the fish or scavenging their carcasses distribute the nitrogen embodied in the fish protein on land by both scattering scraps and urinating after eating.
@Luddite-vd2ts 11 місяців тому
I can only pray that Ethiopian officialdom sees this and reconsiders its project to dam the Nile.
@leegoddard2618 10 місяців тому
The human has become a terra former rather than a gardener.
@philtucker1224 10 місяців тому
@@Luddite-vd2tsThose people are desperate for ways to provide energy and assist them in developing their societies. Hydro electricity is usually considered a good way to reduce dependency on coal fired power stations if the local geography is suitable. I guess there are other options though so what are your thoughts as an alternative? I’m asking respectfully.
@philtucker1224 10 місяців тому
Removing good hydro electric power sources seems a very bad idea?
@russellzauner 11 місяців тому
I live in Oregon and many people are hopeful that we can uncover Celilo Falls someday.
@uriahlevi8640 11 місяців тому
Dams along the Grand Columbia will be harder to get rid off and the energy consequences are just too huge comparing to the Klamath Dams
@gregorymalchuk272 9 місяців тому
Do you propose to get your electricity from unicorn farts? 🦄 ☁️ ⚡ 💡
@lorizold349 2 місяці тому
I worked at Copco 2 when the equipment was overhauled in 2007/2008. It was a beautiful place even with the dam. I’d love to see it what it looks like now that it’s gone.
@richardmcleod1930 9 місяців тому
Maybe the waterscould redirected toward Portland and flush out the filth now so prevalent in the City.
@David-rx5eo 9 місяців тому
They can do that with the Willamette and Columbia rivers.
@stvdagger8074 11 місяців тому
B1M - "you wouldn't believe how hard it is to tear one down" 617 Squadron RAF - "Hold my beer!"
@jimsouthlondon7061 11 місяців тому
Vladimir Putin ,hold my beer
@johnmilovich2195 11 місяців тому
The Condit dam on the White Salmon river in OR was removed over a year without incident.
@justicedemocrat9357 11 місяців тому
I heard that since the condit dam was removed fifteen thousand ppl around the area mysteriously died of an unknown illness.
@NatureShy 11 місяців тому
That's in WA, not OR btw
@alibarron7558 9 місяців тому
We still have no more fish and unfortunately no electricity, only taxes. White Salmon drains into the Columbia, which is the Boundary between Oregon & Washington. A lot of what affects people on one side, also affects the other.
@gregorymalchuk272 9 місяців тому
And they're now missing 14.7 megawatts of clean electricity that has been replaced with expensive natural gas firing. 🙃
@Shinkajo 4 місяці тому
@@alibarron7558if you have no electricity, how are you on the internet then?
@Frenchylikeshikes 10 місяців тому
Dams were build everywhere in the past. We are now in a time when many smaller, obsolete, dams are actually removed, and many smaller rivers are finally being restored.
@JohnDunkley 2 місяці тому
It's great to see. It would be nice to see a before and after video not just the proposal. You mentioned 65 dams removed. How are they doing? Is it having a positive effect on the wildlife?
@furripupau 11 місяців тому
With predicted water shortages coming in the near future I do question if the fish are the more important consideration here.
@MadridWalker 11 місяців тому
Awesome video, thanks for sharing! Happy week to everyone! 😊😊
@justinkraus1687 8 місяців тому
Going through a drought “let’s take the dams down” make sense to me
@rollinwithunclepete824 11 місяців тому
Thanks, Fred! Very interesting. Never would have guessed how much goes into getting rid of a dam.
@Lachgummei 10 місяців тому
Okay to be fair i am a Civil Engineer so i have more indepth look on construction. But seriously, you never would have guessed? Infrastrucural Problems aside, Controlling thousands of tons of water never appeared to be a difficulty?
@hrimfaxi1 2 місяці тому
Who came here to see dam removal ?
@allenkramer2143 11 місяців тому
With all due respect to the commentary. I believe there is a misunderstanding. As stated in the beginning, these Dams no longer serve the purpose they were built for. No one is suggesting every Dam should be taken out.
@alessandrodamato5059 9 місяців тому
What kind of electrical source will it be replaced by?
@user-xt6bd4qm5g 2 місяці тому
In Australia we build small dams all down rivers as it helps the eco system survive dry conditions. It works really well and creates oasis all down the river. Obviously these are just rock walls that the water fills and runs over.
@vectorm4 10 місяців тому
What method/ source is replacing the power? What was hydro-electric, what is the new power source?
@mac_tire_aonair 11 місяців тому
Another dam great video, Fred ;-) Thanks mate!
@apokalipsx25 11 місяців тому
Man. You found the best time to put a video about Dams on youtube )))
@michaelimbesi2314 11 місяців тому
I’ve been interested in dam removals for a while and it’s cool to see this subject getting more attention
@JanSanono 11 місяців тому
Interesting timing
@GazMoby 11 місяців тому
Very enjoyable as usual 👍
@samuelchappell7280 9 місяців тому
Much of the sediment behind the damns are rich in nutrients good for planting and/or raising crops. What if the sediment was "washed" of a good portion of the nutrients, and what sediment is left could be used as bedding for a number of animals? You would have "fertilizer" for crops, and bedding for farm animals. What's left of the physical damn could be recycled for other projects. In all, what was spent on taking out the damn could be made back through this technique.
@bigfish222 11 місяців тому
Without removing the 2 dams immediately upstream of the JC Boyle Dam I don't see how this project will change conditions much.
@liamwinter4512 11 місяців тому
It makes their tummy's feel warm after they pay each other's backs.
@jfletch09 11 місяців тому
both Keno and link river dams contain fish ladders. Additionally, neither of these two dams were ever the main drivers of the toxic algae blooms that have devastated fish populations.
@bigfish222 11 місяців тому
@@jfletch09 Yeah the ladders should help some, but Upper Klamath Lake has routine blue green algae advisories where people shouldn't swim in the lake.
@stormelemental13 11 місяців тому
@@bigfish222 That is true and primarily a result of fertilizer runoff. The dam removal should open up habitat in the stream below the Keno dam and potentially in the areas above Klamath Lake. Even when there are toxic algae blooms in the lake itself, the rivers that feed into it remain quite clean. Not sure whether this is all worth it, but it should allow fish access all the way up into the upper tributaries.
@investmentmaker2887 11 місяців тому
Dam! I'm here early.
@breakingborders 10 місяців тому
I was just there! The river is beautiful.
@NomadUniverse 8 місяців тому
The large flowing dams arent the issue. Its the ones that reduce water to a trickle or stop it that need to go. We had it with the Murray river here. Absolutely destroyed.
@Shorkshire 11 місяців тому
So where does the replacement electricity come from?
@eschudy 11 місяців тому
So, exactly how much money do the dam removals save? And over what time period? And does it take into account replacing the electricity for 70K homes with as much reliability?
@Sacto1654 11 місяців тому
That's why they'll never dismantle the O'Shaughnessy Dam inside Yosemite National Park. It would cost way too much money and the loss of water storage and power generation will cause even more problems.
@Sumbutta 11 місяців тому
Cost of maintenance over decades vs one time removal? Many dams have deferred maintenance that can no longer be ignored. Resevoirs behind dams fill up with sediment and greatly reduce their capacity to hold water, their primary function. The ecological impacts of dams are also devastating to river systems
@Sacto1654 11 місяців тому
@@Sumbutta The O'Shaughnessy Dam is not a small dam. It would be enormously expensive to drain the lake, remove the dam, restore the land behind the dam, raise Don Pedro Dam 35 feet downstream, build new water aqueducts from Don Pedro Dam and build new hydroelectric power plants at Don Pedro Dam. The cost could be over US$25 billion, if they're lucky!
@Pasos1Two3 11 місяців тому
They don't save money or help the people who live in the areas. Dams help with water storage, power creation, and flood control. Removing them isn't about prioritizing the environment as flooding can cause enormous environment, social and economic damage. So a better question is why are governments and organizations pushing this agenda?
@tbird81 11 місяців тому
It's like Germany getting rid of its nuclear plants and replacing them with coal.
@JonathonV 11 місяців тому
Wondering about where they’re going to be getting their energy from. If it’s from fossil fuels, that isn’t exactly an environmental improvement. Maybe they’ll just buy more from BC, who produces 93% of its electricity from hydroelectric dams.
@Gummmibaer 11 місяців тому
Thats a valid point, but I guess your assumption might be right: This area doesnt seem to have a shortage of hydropower. And the video even says these dams were not running at their maximum a lot of the time. The big advantage of hydro power is that (normally) its running constantly. These here seem to have major problems with so I guess they werent profitable or really efficient anyways.
@justicedemocrat9357 11 місяців тому
Elon will be providing lithium batteries.
@smallfgb 11 місяців тому
Yes - seems like a bad idea to remove dams when we can’t make our climate change goals. This is about as shortsighted as countries in the EU turning off their nuclear plants. Seems by their actions many environmentalists don’t believe climate change is real. Solar and wind will not replace the generation from this. Hydro and nuclear are the only carbon free means to balance those techs with reliable 24h production.
@smallfgb 11 місяців тому
@@Gummmibaerreally hydro can be run like a big battery - one that doesn’t require mining and replacement every 20 years. If you let water build when solar/wind are working and run water down the turbines as those energy sources are not present, this balances without requiring natural gas generation (which loses efficiency being turned on/off too). Not being 100% on doesn’t remove the value of this for a balanced carbon free grid. In fact some dams pump up off peak and allow rundown on peak to balance grids. Ironically, I think CA plans to build one like that soon.
@slizzysluzzer 11 місяців тому
These are all tiny little insignificant dams. Iron Gate in California only has an installed capacity of 18MW for example. Your average newly installed wind turbine has an installed capacity of 3MW for reference. So at most replacing Iron Gate in terms of capacity is six newly installed wind turbines. Of course installed capacity isn't actual power generation and both wind and water plus actual electrical grid demand can fluctuate, but the point is, these aren't massive energy sources no matter how you slice it. And note that wind turbines are getting bigger and more productive all the time - the largest offshore models these days get up to 15MW per unit so it's coming to a point where even a single wind turbine would supersede this dam. When you couple that with the downstream consequences of keeping these relatively insignificant, inefficient, old hydroelectric dams in place (algal blooms, erosion, water usage concerns etc etc) it becomes a far more cost-effective solution just to tear them down than to keep them maintained when other renewables are getting better by the year.
@rd9102 11 місяців тому
So what are they doing to replace the power lost from these 4 damns?
@eily_b 11 місяців тому
Like they said in the video. Easily replaced by other dams
@rd9102 11 місяців тому
@@eily_b Until the "other" dams are at max capacity and then what? Oh sorry we don't have power for you anymore...
@soly-dp-colo6388 6 місяців тому
A lot of small are currently being removed in France and Spain too. It's not just in the United States.
@pavelmyshov464 11 місяців тому
Ok, I understand, the Salmon habitat. But with what kind of electricity sources these dams will be replaced? Hydro power is CO2 neutral, while US still doesn't have a lot of Nuclear or Solar power plants
@matthewmattchoo6621 11 місяців тому
Next up will be everyone whining about the skyrocketing cost of power ( pacific power anyone?? ) blackouts / brownouts, and a new Nuclear Power plant being built...
@pavelmyshov464 11 місяців тому
@@matthewmattchoo6621 Nuclear power plants are great, we should definitely build more of them
@lolly166541 10 місяців тому
Being CO2 neutral doesn't equate to being environmentally good. Your EV, may be as a car itself relatively co2 neutral, but the production is everything but that, maintenance etc isn't either. Same way as Solar is also horrific for the environment, simply because it can't be recycled profitable, meaning it'll just rot and bring toxic shit in to the ground. What we have to focus on is becoming good for nature, that means rebuilding nature to its natural way AND bringing Civilization back to a more in touch way.
@simsreject5925 9 місяців тому
@@pavelmyshov464The West Coast is also removing its nuclear capacity. They're trying to replace the hydro with wind to mixed results. A lot of people want to move much of its hydro out to sea by transitioning tidal generators.
@pavelmyshov464 9 місяців тому
@@simsreject5925 hydro cannot be replaced by wind, because hydro is a base generation, it produces electricity 24/7, while the wind is unpredictable and produces electricity at random. Nuclear can replace hydro, but we dont see much of it either. Overall, its pretty weird to reduce amount of energy produced by carbon free sources while we all try to fight climate change
@harbl99 11 місяців тому
"No dam project of this size has ever been torn down before..." * chuckles in 617 squadron RAF *
@StallionFernando 3 місяці тому
Would love a follow up on this. A part 2.
@Abiesbracteata 11 місяців тому
The B1M: the best dam content on UKposts!
@herzogsbuick 11 місяців тому
the issue is fulfilling an "intended purpose" of course those dams are! it's the unintended consequences that are realized with time
@AgiHammerthief 11 місяців тому
been following the Elwah removal since I first heard about it. This sounds great.
@user-us5gt1ug8h Місяць тому
It requires consistent and phenomenal efforts by the stakeholders of the river to actually make the powers that be to give in to agree for such a colossal removal of these structures which actually are metaphors for their huge egos since these infrastructure projects are representative of their supposed legacies and consider them as their alteregos
@spooky.- 10 місяців тому
I don’t think removing renewable energy from the grid when we need more desperately is a smart idea.
@CraigGrant-sh3in 3 місяці тому
It's being replaced by much less environmentally damaging green energy
@sammythompson3694 2 місяці тому
Sure it is.
@mikkelkirketerp4884 Місяць тому
It's a brilliant idea to finally see the havoc these dams wreak upon the natural habitats. Then we can always generate that power in a better way, like nuclear.
@sammythompson3694 Місяць тому
We have a nuclear plant near us and pay 8.5¢ watt. Those near the Smokys with hydroelectric pay 5¢ watt. Say what you want about bird killing windmills or habitat stealing solar farms green energy won't be enough to electrify the country.
@mikkelkirketerp4884 Місяць тому
@@sammythompson3694 thats still incredibly cheap! We usually pay 35-45US cents pr kWh here in Denmark.
@jaymzgaetz2006 9 місяців тому
It doesn't have to be expensive...mother nature will do it for free.
@wildweasel3001 11 місяців тому
Actually looks simple, wish my work was that straightforward
@Naultarous 11 місяців тому
Masterworks, legitimizing what criminals have done for centuries.
@bagsmohess 11 місяців тому
He doesn't care as long as he gets that sponsorship $$$
@americanrambler4972 11 місяців тому
I wonder, was there any consideration to leaving limited portions of the dams with specific sized openings in them to provide some throttling of sudden high rate flows to limit down stream flooding and infrastructure damage to cominities the river passes through?
@LeTrashPanda 11 місяців тому
They get plugged up with debris (like trees and limestone boulders) and stupid stuff that people push off into them (like washing machines) so good luck with that idea.
@simsreject5925 9 місяців тому
Environmentalists tend to be single-minded in their solutions to a perceived problem. So I'm willing to bet almost no consideration was given to anything other than dam removal. But a floodgate system might be a good idea given how many problems CA has had in recent years with winter runoff wiping out areas downstream. The other problem is several of these dams were built to retain water for the arid summers in regions to the south. So now CA and OR are going to have more damaging flooding in the winter and spring and more damaging drought and wildfires in the summer.
@David-rx5eo 9 місяців тому
@@simsreject5925 this is the California way.
@CraigGrant-sh3in 3 місяці тому
Leaving openings doesn't allow the river to flow naturally.will hold back the sediment they need gone to return the river to its natural state . The big risk of damming up the river by debris getting caught in the opening and without costly maintenance on the remaining structure the concrete will crumble and cause problems when it collapses and also the chemical that leach from the concrete will affect the purity of the water which will affect the aquatic life in the river. Fish and other aquatic life may be able to live in contaminated water but it may not be able to successfully breed and sustain future generations. Plus, who wants to spoil nature with ugly concrete
@AltairTao 11 місяців тому
Great content B1M. Keep it up.
@dt7353 2 дні тому
We need a follow up to this in a couple months when this project is mostly competed
@scottholman3982 9 місяців тому
Most dams are on rivers with high sediment content. This is a result of erosion caused by rapid water flow. Sediment builds up behind dams, reducing the capacity of the reservoir until the dam is basically a waterfall. This process can take many years, or just a few decades. But it is very common. Dams are harmful to fish that swim to the sea like salmon because they slow the flow of the river down drastically. Young fish would be at the ocean in just days before the dams. Now it takes weeks to swim that distance, and there is very little to eat along the way. The next big engineering job might be to build a pipeline that captures flow from all major tributaries and sends it to the ocean quickly, so that hatchlings can be collected and put in the pipeline. This would get them to the ocean in a short time, while avoiding the turbines at the dams. The pipeline would only have flow during the spring months when the eggs are hatching. Fish returning to spawn have less trouble getting upstream than before, because the lakes have covered many waterfalls.
@garytrawinski1843 10 місяців тому
I like the way you show a decaying salmon in the water like the dam cause it. The fish die after they spawn.
@Sennmut 8 місяців тому
Sshhh!!!!! No need to obscure things with facts!!!!!!
@dandandandandanJr 10 місяців тому
While this is interesting, I notice he doesn't really go into the benefits of keeping the dams. Klamath has very short bursts of rain fall and some snow pack. Avoiding flooding is important in the area with the sandy soil, and spring the local agriculture industry throughout the long dry summers would be extremely difficult without the dams. That's not too mention the about of cheep power that the dams produce. Why is there no discussion of the benefits of keeping the dam?
@simonh317 9 місяців тому
Given the level of water this year, are the hydro plants running flat out?
@Erik-rp1hi 8 місяців тому
A lot of dams where built for flood control. Unless they are silted up and the silt can't be removed then removing the dam is correct? But then flood control is lost?
@supermrmcandrewson 11 місяців тому
Well done on keeping a straight face during your dam pun. There better be a blooper reel for it!
@jantschierschky3461 11 місяців тому
Well, as a water management specialists, I see issues. Removing the hydropower and water storages could backfire badly. Water quality and sediments can be managed easily, if those engineers and others ever listening. To me a fish ladder is the best option and claiming is more expensive than dam removal is bs. Lates fish ladder technology is simple and cost-effective.
@Ruhrpottpatriot 11 місяців тому
What would you then do about habitats that are not all year round wet or dry and rely on the changing of the water level to function?
@jantschierschky3461 11 місяців тому
@Ruhrpottpatriot Well is a different story. There are management options. All is a trade-off. However, hydropower and energy storage are especially important for the future, especially with solar and wind power.
@Knight_Kin 11 місяців тому
@@jantschierschky3461 Solar and Wind are peak load power systems which has no correlation here. Hydro is suppose to be baseload. However, these particular dams apparently run at such low capacity they don't generate much electricity. Looks like it's more of a case of these dams are so dilapidated they would need major investment to reconstittue them and thus the fish ladder in that scenario isn't as practical as you claim. Just look at the designs of these dams, where would you put a fish ladder? It would have needed these designs from the outset, you're wrong about it not being expensive here because you're talking about in general, not specifically these dams. It doesn't take an expert to look at these designs and go yeah i'm sure it's a simple fix. Dude really? Infinite resources scenario: yes it could be done: real world scenario: it's far too costly for the benefit when it only addresses one of numerous problems. The US has blocked too many rivers over the years back when there wasn't any possible way to know the long term impacts. Just because you have a reservoir doesn't mean it's quality water, in fact it's the opposite there it's become backed up with toxic sludge and algae. Only a GOOD QUALITY source of water is useful as a reservoir, if it becomes tainted then it's a huge burden, not a benefit. These dams need to go.
@jantschierschky3461 11 місяців тому
@Hatchete well that why I said pump storage. The sediment is 70% organic, so it can be easily biodegraded. I do that for a living. Some dams should be removed, but many should remain.
@jayspeidell 11 місяців тому
The fish ladder solution also has to factor in the maintenance costs of keeping an un-needed dam in that location.
@rigbyrulles 11 місяців тому
love the vids, and I am happy to deal with ads inside videos, but not a huge fan of masterworks
@bagsmohess 11 місяців тому
He doesn't care as long as he gets that sponsorship $$$
@louisvandenbroucke4491 9 місяців тому
videos like this should include literature and sources, then I can cite it in academic papers
@malama_ka_aina 10 місяців тому
Discussed this whilst in university 25 years ago in a hydrology course. The same analogy about blocking arteries were made back then and it never left my mind. I hope more dams are removed and more restoration projects are considered. I think the modern world is too quick to suppress natural cycles which usually puts us in competition with the earth rather than working with it.
@antony1397 9 місяців тому
Another example is swamps, good intentions to drain them and destroy them (malaria) but we are utterly annihilating natural processes that when disturbed have such a runaway effect it's horrifying.
@David-rx5eo 9 місяців тому
How about all the habitat that is being destroy for solar and wind farms?
@malama_ka_aina 9 місяців тому
@@David-rx5eoI'm personally not fully on board with solar and wind. I don't have a perfect solution but I do like the concept of solar. I've looked into geothermal but even there I feel there's something we've yet to consider that could much more "equitable". Many good ideas I've seen over the years so I think there's good conversation out there.
@FranNyan 8 місяців тому
@@David-rx5eo You mean rooftops and unused parking lots? /s Most solar farms are put up where a building had been demolished, or on land that was already degraded, or even to coexist with grazing lands. You don't demolish habitats for solar. It doesn't make any sense economically to do so.
@David-rx5eo 8 місяців тому
@@FranNyan No I mean the huge solar and wind farms that they build. If you think they are not building huge solar and win farms then you are deluding yourself. In fact I drive past big wind farms in California every time I got out to a Desert Casino to see a concert, and those wind farms have killed thousand of birds. I no want I am talking about, because I did the research and wrote a term paper about it.
@Joso997 11 місяців тому
Do all dams eventually have to be removed? How are they going to decommission massive dams like the Three Gorges Dam?
@timmystwin 11 місяців тому
You drain it over a very long time til it's holding no water, then remove it. Re-route the supplying river if you have to. The only danger is the potential flooding but that can be resolved.
@smallcat848 11 місяців тому
most dams are just continuously maintained if they'e considered useful & the resources are avalible there are still dams in use from like 1900-1900 years ago
@JustinJamesJeep 11 місяців тому
Not all dams but these dams were destroying a local ecological powerhouse. Some dams like these that were built without any climate research cause huge problems for their ecosystems and need to be removed. Others like the Hoover dam have created more ecosystems than they've destroyed and won't be removed (at least not for these reasons)
@steven4315 11 місяців тому
All dam collect silt. When they silt up they lose their usefulness. This can take a long time. For instance, Lake Powell silts at 37,000 acre feet per year, but it holds about 24 million acre feet at full pool.
@Joso997 11 місяців тому
@@steven4315 24 million AF?
@tillertechnical5537 6 місяців тому
The documentary on the Elwah dam removal is really special and worth a watch to see the value of this work being done. Great vid b1m
@user-ek3em5km5r 4 місяці тому
that was a dam that was no longer needed for what it was built for.
@aikulovekitten6501 11 місяців тому
When they built the dam, the river was rerouted. Why not make a route for the fish....catch 2 fish with one hook 😮
@ari-cowan 11 місяців тому
Once again, superbly done. I'm looking forward to seeing more.
@williamphillips6049 6 місяців тому
What's going to replace the electricity dams provide and why is it so difficult to build fish ladders?
@radders261 10 місяців тому
Brilliant video as always!
@jfmezei 11 місяців тому
Can't remove a dam when the new water level is being used by towns and farmers upstream. They would then need to rebuild their water source. Properties values as "lakefront" properties would now become "hillside" properties far from water and pretty sure owners would need to be compensated. In such cases fish ladders are far more cost effective. With the accelerating change of climate, it may not be wise to remove dams that help buffer unpredictable massive rain vs drought periods.
@advladart 11 місяців тому
Damn
@Kisai_Yuki 8 місяців тому
Well replacing small days with better engineered ones to allow fish to survive would be the preference, but leave it to big corporations to decide if they would rather continue operating or not. Cause it seems like the energy from these dams wasn't particularly large in the first place.
@rev.andyh.1082 10 місяців тому
This video answers all my dam questions.
@petterbirgersson4489 10 місяців тому
All damn questions.
@wowJhil 11 місяців тому
Ending words always impact on humans and how construction is developing etc. But the biggest takeaway here is specifically about the eco systems that can be restored.
@markwalker3499 6 місяців тому
I grew up on the Klamath River and remember in the 1960's there were so many salmon in the river that Mom used to say you could walk across the river on their backs. I even heard of people using pitchforks to get fish. By the time I was old enough to work in the local salmon cannery as a teen in '73 they had imposed a 10 fish limit, and in late 73 or 74 they had dropped that to 3 fish, but it did not matter because by then there were so few fish left nobody really caught much of anything. Commercial gill netting just as the fish population had dropped drastically was responsible, and isn't it strange that the river thrived with salmon when forest practices in the basin were so bad, but as soon as clearcutting and stream restoration was introduced the populations plummeted which was the same time gill netting was allowed? It is not that I am against the dam removals, but, I want to say that as long as gill netting fish for more than food for the local tribal tables is allowed the fish population will continue to bump along at near extinction on that river. And if the state thinks that removal of the dams is going to work some sort of magic at salmon population increases they are going to be terribly disappointed.
@court2379 6 місяців тому
If the dams existed long before the time you describe and the fish were abundant for decades, why do they think removing them is going to fix it? Obviously they are not the problem...
@phonic0photon 25 днів тому
Will this channel ever show a construction/demolition that is actually completed?
@HolyPire 11 місяців тому
This project screams for a HBO Drama/Catastrophe series :) I would watch
@bibekdas5595 11 місяців тому
The B1m is the my favourite you tube channel
@LeTrashPanda 11 місяців тому
We have a dam nearby that has been an absolute mess for over 20 yr and the money to remove it (millions set aside) but the location and logistics make it exceedingly difficult so nothing has happened. Once it comes down we can save much more water rather than allowing it to run off into the Pacific. What worked great in the 1920's really doesn't work now!
@dundonrl 6 місяців тому
What you said makes ZERO sense! You remove a dam and will "save" more water rather than allowing it to run into the Pacific? WTF are you going to do to capture that water, since the ONLY way to capture massive quantities of water are.. A DAM!
@user-md9yv7jx2c 9 місяців тому
Was it the Glenn Canyon Dam on the Colorado that they shut down recently?
@Tgspartnership 11 місяців тому
hope the rejuvenation of rivers brings many benefits. Will restoring rivers help reduce the severity of wildfires ?
@thehoundGOT 11 місяців тому
If beavers colonise the area then it's possible
@wileycoyote556 11 місяців тому
Absolutely not
@leonkernan 11 місяців тому
I was expecting a Ukraine video for some reason
@mr.boomguy 11 місяців тому
Me too for a sec. But that's Way too quick for content creators with this style
@snarkymoosesshack8793 11 місяців тому
@@mr.boomguy Yeah, ""creators"" like this need time to spin the narrative properly to rope in the NPC's.
@BuzzSargent 11 місяців тому
Since these are reservoirs. People are getting their drinking water from these reservoirs behind the dams. How are they going to replace this drinking water to the homes?
@BuzzSargent 11 місяців тому
@@johnperic6860 A reservoir this large will be difficult to replace for the homeowners. It's important to care for the people who live here.
@gong1616 10 місяців тому
Times change and we have now applications on our phones unlike before. We got software that makes it possible to recycle electricity from active devices plugged in a wall socket.
@gregorymalchuk272 9 місяців тому
The government will just start rationing water. 🙃 A certain politial party loves artificially enforced energy and resource scarcity.
@David-rx5eo 9 місяців тому
@@gregorymalchuk272 everyone must buy electric cars that you won't be able to charge up!
@mathiasroehn9399 10 місяців тому
3:40 Why is a panoramic view of Hamburg incl. the Elbphilharmonie part of this video? 🙂
@stever197037 8 місяців тому
I stayed by the Irongate damn. The real problem is that they always try to maintain a high water level. For water to stay fresher without algae. The levels should lower over the season to let the smaller stagnant pools empty. The reservoir should be close to empty by the end of the season. That keeps water fresh. The problem is the idiots controlling the flow.
@tocsa120ls 11 місяців тому
I'm googling rn how they plan to replace the power lost due to demolition. Will update when I find it.
@marzsit9833 11 місяців тому
they assume that they can get unlimited power from the BPA...
@jfletch09 11 місяців тому
The klamath river hydroelectric project (the 4 dams being taken out) produces max 169 MW. As per the cal iso dashboard, California has the ability to call on 39,646 MW of available capacity. The power provided by these dams is a rounding error in the power portfolios of both California and Oregon. available capacity is more than able to compensate for the power generation being taken offline
@David-rx5eo 9 місяців тому
@@jfletch09 BS, Cali can't even keep the power on in the summer. We (yes, I live in Cali) already have rolling blackouts, and they want everyone to buy electric vehicles too. It is crazy in California.
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