What New Zealand can teach us about reparations
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When the British colonized New Zealand, they left the country’s indigenous Māori population with nearly no land; war and new diseases they introduced to the islands nearly killed off all Māori. Nevertheless, Māori managed to survive - and for decades they protested against the British crown’s pillaging. By the 1970s, the crown could no longer ignore Māori’s mass uprisings rallying for justice; it was forced to respond and established a tribunal to investigate how it violated Māori sovereignty over New Zealand.
Since 1995, the British crown has been engaged in a process of land settlements with Māori - giving the tribes back land and cash, and offering apologies for their historical and modern-day thefts. By putting billions of dollars into this reparations program since the mid-1990s, New Zealand is leading the world with this kind of atonement and redress.
In this special episode of Missing Chapter, Vox reporter Fabiola Cineas traveled across New Zealand to explore how Māori are using the compensation to build a new future for themselves - and to investigate what the US can learn about reparations from their story.
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This series is made possible by a grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to Canopy Collective, an independent initiative under fiscal sponsorship of Multiplier. All Vox reporting is editorially independent and produced by our journalists. Views expressed are not necessarily those of Canopy Collective or Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Canopy Collective is dedicated to ending and healing from systemic racialized violence. Multiplier is a nonprofit that accelerates impact for initiatives that protect and foster a healthy, sustainable, resilient, and equitable world. Robert Wood Johnson Foundation is committed to improving health and health equity in the United States.
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Vox's companion piece by reporter Fabiola Cineas: www.vox.com/the-highlight/235...
We referenced these maps from Te Puni Kōkiri, the Ministry of Māori Development, to help create a rough map of government-recognized iwi: www.tkm.govt.nz/map/ Many iwi borders overlap with others, so in our map we used dots to symbolize iwi instead of exact boundaries.
The Treaty of Waitangi by Claudia Orange was helpful to understanding the treaty’s history, www.google.com/books/edition/...
The Treaty of Waitangi Settlements, edited by Nicola Wheen and Janine Hayward, provided different perspectives to understanding the impact of these settlements www.bwb.co.nz/books/treaty-of...
He Tohu, National Library of New Zealand, • Land ownership
The Alexander Turnbull Library Collections at the National Library, natlib.govt.nz/collections/a-...
Te Ara, the Encyclopedia of New Zealand, helped us understand the details of land loss, war, and inequality over time. teara.govt.nz/en
Waitangi Tribunal, waitangitribunal.govt.nz/abou...
List of treaty settlements, www.govt.nz/browse/history-cu...
Waikato-Tainui settlement, www.govt.nz/browse/history-cu...
Ngati Maru settlement, www.govt.nz/assets/Documents/...
Museum of New Zealand, www.tepapa.govt.nz/discover-c...
NZ History, nzhistory.govt.nz/people/will...
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Throughout this piece you’ll hear me use the name Aotearoa, the Māori language name for New Zealand. It’s often translated to mean “long white cloud” and is probably a reference to what the area looked like to Polynesian voyagers from the horizon. Today, there’s a movement for the government to officially change the country’s name to Aotearoa. While we wish we could have gotten more into the intricacies of the Māori language movement in this video - in many ways it’s a continuation of the fight to restore Māori rights that we explore here. -Fabiola Let us know your thoughts about Vox’s reporting on reparations and the impact it has had on you. Take our survey: forms.gle/NQR5p4Yq9SzTjghB8
@Yacyz Рік тому
Living in New Zealand and learning the history is pretty amazing.
@Chinnybon Рік тому
I just want to say that I appreciate the use of "Aotearoa" and the effort that was clearly put into pronunciation. A lot of people (and publications) here are pretty vocally opposed to the name and pronounce all the place names in the most anglicised way possible, so it's cool to see people abroad using the name so freely and making an effort to pronounce things correctly.
@Chinnybon Рік тому
@Zaydan Alfariz I agree. It also just sounds nicer and like more of an identity.
@raquetdude Рік тому
That’s like saying one native group from New York calls America ‘xyz’ and so it should be renamed that, while ignoring what every other native group from Arizona or Texas etc calls America. Like that’s no better at all is it (find a name all groups agree to not just from one native group)
@f6876 Рік тому
Well done on your pronunciation of Māori names. I really enjoyed the documentary.
@Normski_Izodosa Рік тому
The fact that she's going above and beyond to say the original Maori words/terms is my favorite part
@patrickbeverley4950 Рік тому
Might be the best effort ive ever heard, even hit the soft t's
@sevenhelmets Рік тому
Agreed. Also kudos at pronouncing everything pretty much flawlessly.
@JuddNZ Рік тому
You can tell she has put alot of effort in which is awesome to see. Ka Pai
@QuantumWalnut Рік тому
I'm sure she met a lot of Maori people on the trip who'd be happy to coach her pronounication. People are generally happy to help if they believe you have their best interest at heart.
@John_Jim Рік тому
yeah, so woke
@djjoshski Рік тому
As a Māori it’s truely commendable seeing outside interest in our culture, most people don’t bother, even her attempting all of the words and names is a welcomed surprise 😊
@AJGress Рік тому
I love Māori culture! I'm from the Netherlands but it's so so interesting to me
@djjoshski Рік тому
@@AJGress Polynesians are all related someway or another, from Hawaii to Guam to here and all islands in between
@PaulinaGallardoEnriquez Рік тому
I think the world is really impressed by New Zealand and the respect to Māori culture. I think their doing better than others ex-colonies…
@AJGress Рік тому
@@djjoshski I've heard that before! I was thinking of buying the book "Sea People" to learn more about the connections between them
@geoms6263 Рік тому
The British Empire - great empire, a civilizing force
@StratfordDanBurrell Рік тому
As a Kiwi - this an exceptional effort to tell the Maori story. Not a lot of New Zealanders pay as much attention to this. Well done Vox.
@StratfordDanBurrell Рік тому
@@medit8iv_native970 - nah, I’m literally an endangered brown flightless bird. I’m glad you took another moment out of your busy day correcting people, to correct another person. Kā pai.
@stephpeters53 Рік тому
And pretty good pronounciation considering!
@deejay5102 Рік тому
Of course they don't....
@Jackson-uk8xx Рік тому
Maori aren't the original inhabitants of NZ. The Maori arrived on boats & ate the locals to complete extinction, the hori ori / pygmies. Yet British are the barbarians!?..😂
@StratfordDanBurrell Рік тому
@@Jackson-uk8xx - I see you have listened to the common Kiwi myths spread around at primary school. Read some actual history on the subject, it's not hard to come by in any local library. Noone actually said the Maori weren't a violent people (many have admired their martial prowess). Maori also didn't invade England and turn the English into second class citizens in their own country. Whether you like it or not, Maori in NZ are still dealing with the echos of that trauma in NZ today. I can understand why some feel somewhat aggrieved by the past. In reference to British barbarism, see the British colonization of India and tying people to cannons before firing them - hardly a civilized act to be proud of. Google search is wild for this one. My main point is that it is useful to understand trauma from the past - (even if not your own peoples), you get a new appreciation for the country you live in. It doesn't make me any less proud to be a New Zealander, what is, is what happen. We can only take those lesson forward. I don't think any culture is free from acts of cruelty or disregard to others - it is not the sole measure of a people - or at least I hope not. - regards, A descendant of a British colonist.
@travisonyima2243 Рік тому
Knowing that the Māori people were inspired by Black and Native American protests in the US, and have comparatively made more sufficient economic and political gains than the movements that inspired them really makes you think about how effective the US government is at silencing marginalized voices
@davidsteed7278 Рік тому
To provide some perspective, NZ had its first [acting] Māori Prime Minister over a hundred years ago. The US protests appeared to be more about stuff everyone in NZ, including the Māori, already took for granted. In my opinion, the progress in NZ is more about preserving/ restoring the Maori identity, including language and culture.
@Niic208 Рік тому
The USA is like the Roman Empire... whole different beast compared to this small country
@pauld.b7129 Рік тому
Because they have a valid argument for it. Native Americans have a better argument for reparations than African Americans do.
@lovefitstudio Рік тому
More importantly, why...
@KazimaliMawji Рік тому
Story of Palestinians today.
@strangekittyca Рік тому
As a Maori, I really appreciate you making the effort to learn our pronunciations and words. It means more than you know.
@markmakallister4653 Рік тому
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, your peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft
@mspaint93 Рік тому
@@markmakallister4653 relevancy?
@markhardcastle3946 Рік тому
Agreed. At the least. it is a courtesy, and it is a beautiful language.
@markmakallister4653 Рік тому
@@mspaint93 Obviously "reparations" implies "group" guilt, based on past "crimes" committed by one people on another. That whole concept is totalitarian, but, here we are and in that way the Māori are murderous slavers who's reign of terror was stopped by the British...no need for reparations or "white guilt". The Māori, as a historical group, were very sadistic in their imperialism.
@ifgfqageneration6939 Рік тому
Can you speak Maori?
@michaelwallis56 Рік тому
By no means a perfect relationship, by no means an honourable history. But what we do have is a starting point and a desire to move forward together and a place from where this conversation can begin.
@Judochop9 Рік тому
Can't move forward when you dwell on the past
@shadowboxing7029 Рік тому
@@Judochop9 There's dwelling and then there's understanding in order to heal. Colonisation stripped Maori of economic stability, identity, community and decimated our numbers through diseases/war. All of which has had long lasting, long reaching effects right up until today.
@JustAnotherAccount8 Рік тому
See thats the thing, they're never happy and always want more, you can't win with entitled people. the reparations is the end point, not the starting point. besides it wasn't them who were even effected in the first place, it was their ancestors, nor was it the current generations fault, it too was the fault of their ancestors.
@dean1111 Рік тому
@@Judochop9 you can. Move on whilst never forgetting the past
@dumbereveryday5372 Рік тому
@@shadowboxing7029 oh well
@neinei9667 Рік тому
Can I just say that your pronunciation is FANTASTIC 🙌🏼✨ it’s always very refreshing to hear foreigners speak Te Reo Māori so well, it shows you’ve really taken the time to connect with our people
@mark-ish Рік тому
Not fantastic. Partly ok, partly lazy like a pakeha would attempt to phonetically try.
@neinei9667 Рік тому
@@mark-ish even if not perfect, it’s nice to hear the effort put in :) especially her vowels and t’s. I’ve seen a lot of American channels put out content about Māori/Aotearoa and butcher those words entirely (the easy ones LOL)
@AholeAtheist Рік тому
@@neinei9667 It's the "t" and "r" that she's pronouncing correctly. Not the vowels. The vowels, particularly "e" and "o" are off.
@cmt89497 2 місяці тому
@@neinei9667 Nah, she's only getting the 'r' correct, but I have to commend her for the effort
@evedotcom Рік тому
Great piece! Growing up in NZ in the 90s/00s, we were taught the Māori language from 6 years old, learned traditional music, dance, mythology, visited a marae… all of this really instilled respect for the culture. But at the same time, we were definitely not given a thorough and accurate history lesson. As was mentioned, the Treaty of Waitangi was held up as a positive and mutual thing.
@BlueKitsune72 Рік тому
Wow, what school was this? Mine all failed, the teachers they hired couldn't speak a word. I'm a little jealous honestly
@FinnB747 Рік тому
All I learnt was the language and songs
@emmalouise6529 Рік тому
We definitely had everything she mentions: east coast.
@adambyrne1201 Рік тому
Interesting. I went to school in the 2010s and early 2020s and I had the opposite experience.Teaching of Te Reo and Tikanga was ridiculously insufficient. But I feel like I got a really good education in Maori and colonial NZ history in both primary and secondary school.
@Tenatic-X Рік тому
Growing up in the 00s/10s, my experience was very similar to yours too. Mostly just surface level contents of the Maori culture during primary school that I've forgotten over time, such as mythologies which is a shame. I remembered being taught the treaty of Waitangi's faults and inaccurate translation between the English and Te reo maori treaties during social studies at high school.
@ernesttalwana8719 Рік тому
As an African (Ugandan) who fell in love with Aotearoa after watching Lord of the Rings and studying Law which drew me to compare Constitutional History of many colonial states..... The Maōri struggle for sovereignty and identity in a post colonial state is one I deeply empathise with.
@ernesttalwana8719 Рік тому
Apologies for the misspellings.
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
The whole idea of a native land is racist. If you went to Germany and an ethnic German came up to you as a recent migrant and told you you didn't belong or it was their land wouldn't that just be racism. How is it different for any other ethnic group trying to do the same, just because their ancestors happened to be their first. Seems a massive double standard.
@ernesttalwana8719 Рік тому
@@adamirish-yb7rj Historical inequality. The Maori had their land systemically taken under their feet. I as a migrant to Germany are not taking the land from them. British settlers took Maori land and marginalised the original inhabitants. It's hardly the same.
@nomahope3182 Рік тому
@@adamirish-yb7rj The Germans still own the land in Germany. The Moari's land was stolen by European settlers. It is not the same.
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
It wasn't stolen by European settlers. Land that was taken was confiscated as punishment for the NZ wars and the breach of the Treaty by king county iwi. Which has now mostly been settled. All the rest of it was freely traded away for a price at the time of purchase. These over simplicity judgement based on how the USA was settled did not happen in NZ and ignore our actual history.
@giths19 Рік тому
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one super impressed by Fabiola Cineas and commending her for doing the research, homework and learning how to pronounce Māori. Good job Fabiola and thank you Vox for putting together this missing chapter of the Māori story.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
Well, to report a one sided story you only really have to do half the work.
@giovannisheh2270 Місяць тому
@@funtimesatbeaverfallswell, the other half of the story has been offered many a platform and was widely accepted around the world since the 1800s. All I'm saying is it's about hightime the Maori half is given the same attention
@sasha_ptasha Рік тому
Me, as Ukrainian living through the war protecting our land from imperialist, must say - I cried when the lady was talking about how when you lose your land, you lose your identity 🇺🇦💔 May every nation wroged by empires stay strong and recieve acknowledgment of their hurt 🫂
@tehydro315 Рік тому
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@K.Okiddfit Рік тому
Y’all will be ok. Half y’all racist anyway
@jackprichard6780 Рік тому
Kia kaha (stand strong) my Ukrainian friend. The road is long and at times dark but Ukrainian people are strong.
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Слава Україні!
@haywire4686 Рік тому
You guys will make it through, stay strong! Slava Ukraini!
@UraidTariq Рік тому
Vox is the ultimate proof that students at school love to learn about the Geopolitics and history but schools don't know the right way to teach the kids. Literally it would be so cool if you were my teacher 🙏🙏🙏
@arv7539 Рік тому
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@joe_pinch Рік тому
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@mortifera123 Рік тому
People like learning from brief videos that are designed to drive engagement. But these are only surface level introductions to bigger topics. The depth and requirements for a school course are naturally going to be more boring (no fancy editing or soundtrack). And watching a video is passive compared to a history or civics class that demand critical thinking and argument. Watching a 20 minute UKposts video can start a conversation, but it's not a class
@rutvikrs Рік тому
Ask them the details of this video in a month's time or a year. You'll know interested people were.
@jonas.groschwitz Рік тому
To be fair, at least tens of hours of work went into making this video (maybe hundreds) , whereas a teacher only has a couple of hours to prepare a class, at best. So this is just gonna be higher quality, no matter the teacher's motivation and understanding
@vivekkatial1153 Рік тому
Epic to see this from Vox and loved how you had the activists and inspiring indigenous leaders sharing their voices. Kiwis are quick to forget how much oppression and racism still exist in Aotearoa today.
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
Yet what they are preaching is based on racial division philosophy, you don't solve racism by creating more racism. No one/leader can speak or represent me, I speak for myself as I expect everyone else also speak for themselves.
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Рік тому
Almost as if it's human nature.....people also forget that racism can be found in all races.
@lucaslarraman Рік тому
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 go educate yourself e hoa
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Рік тому
@@lucaslarraman What a reply! Debate me on your garbage ideologies.
@kiranpandiyan159 Рік тому
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 lol funny whataboutism ! Thanks we do know racism is exhibited everywhere !
@endangeredbirds Рік тому
As a NZ pakeha (white guy) this did a better job of explaining the struggle of maori than anything I've heard from Aotearoa media. Trying to separate the toned down version of history, of my older generation, from the modern version, that includes maori voices, is a journey. Nice work (starting with the language!) of expressing the journey so well and helping us non maori people get it a bit better. Nice job!
@kalidesu Рік тому
You sound racist, it's always about race for racists. People can never be individualists.
@ifgfqageneration6939 Рік тому
Law based on race is a disaster. Time will prove me correct!
@BigBoiiLeem Рік тому
Such a good piece, and I've never heard an American with such good pronunciation in Te Reo. I mean, most pakeha can't do it, so credit to you for putting in the effort, we love to see it.
@mark-ish Рік тому
Pakeha aren't paid to research, write & produce a documentary, hence her effort was ordinary, when she & VOX have resources to make it professional rather than amateurish.
@BigBoiiLeem Рік тому
@@mark-ish literally every American ever, whether they've got money for it or not, always butchers Te Reo pronunciation. I don't see anything wrong with giving credit where its due. Also, in New Zealand, pakeha should pronounce properly, its literally the lowest effort possible
@jackprichard6780 Рік тому
@@mark-ish Pakeha do live here mind you so it should be easier to learn and as they do live here they should.
@markreynolds1112 Рік тому
ya and most maori miss pronounce english words
@BigBoiiLeem Рік тому
@@markreynolds1112 you're one to talk, you can't even spell them
@roguepumpkin1514 Рік тому
I was born in raised in Canada, and I am white but it would be AMAZING to see similar things done here for indigenous peoples. In my area there is a lot of art made by native peoples everywhere in some attempt of these reparations without any of the compensation or returnal of land
@nzs316 Рік тому
Are you kidding me! Have you not seen the news for the last bunch of decades how many billions and billions and billions of dollars are given to the Inuit or the Native Americans. Justin just doled out another one and a half billion dollars again! You would think that with all the casinos that have been built that they’d be self-sufficient by now. Because after all having a casino is part of their heritage right! How about the guns that are smuggled through the reservations across the border from the states to Canada. Or the cigarettes that cross the border across the Saint Laurent on a regular basis. Seriously you weren’t aware of any of that.
@JesusHChrist2000 Рік тому
I'm a Kiwi, and when I visited Squamish I was amazed to see a huge Tainui Maori sculpture in the museum. Apparently Tainui and Squamish are working together to gain rights.
@rykloog9578 Рік тому
Doesn’t Canada already do a lot for indigenous people? I’m American, so I wouldn’t really know what that looks like
@roguepumpkin1514 Рік тому
@@rykloog9578 structurally it’s basically the same as the states with reservations that have poor to no drinking water and poor infrastructure and food deserts. With a nice coat of paint of seeming to uplift indigenous voices and support indigenous artists without actually dealing with the issues that affect them
@mike8159 Рік тому
Surely, if you were sincere in wanting to do the right thing, you would leave the land your ancestors invaded and colonised, and look to return to where your ancestors originated or migrate to a land where you are welcomed by the indigenous people.
@bradmiller3396 Рік тому
I’m born and raised in Aotearoa and I learnt more about our history here than what I did in school. That is undoubtedly a key source of tensions today, our true history is often sugarcoated or missed all together. Thank you for sharing
@chloebetony2219 Рік тому
I was almost angry I was having our history so well explained by an american 😆
@molpish. Рік тому
I mean, how old are you? Today it depends on what school you go to but as I am currently a teen, the education system explains all of this history. There's much more that is also explained, like the musket wars and local history (in my case, my old school even got to meet our local iwis multiple times, and learn about protests as they were happening). Another good thing is the push from students to get professional Te reo Māori teachers. At me old intermediate there was a massive petition, signed by over half the school. Also yes, the history is sometimes sugar-coated or dumbed down a little in primary schools, but it still gets it correct and tells kids how horrific the entire situation was. I know there is a good amount of motivation to get teachers educated on this matter, I've seen it happen with my own teachers. Alotof teacher are also trying, all the schools I've been to had a mandatory karakia to start the day, one of them had mandatory kapa haka, and we got māori lessons. Yes there are still issues, majority of teachers are pākeha. I have only been taught by two māori teacher in my lifetime. But I think it's still changing for the better, it seems like that anyways. Overall i think it matter what school you go to but guessing by the average age of vox viewers I'm gonna say you went to school a while ago, and I think it's improved since you finished.
@maiu1922 Рік тому
I'm glad to report that things have changed now. I am a teen still at school in NZ and we have been learning NZ history since year 10 (that I remember). Weeks were spent on Te Tiriti in year 10, including discussions on the differences between the Te Reo and English versions. We spent about a term in year 11 and 12 each going through major events such as the Land Wars, the march shown in this video and much more, including hours of old footage and documentaries and internal assessments on the topics! This was also taught alongside some American history of the civil war as a connection! I know it may be different in other schools but I really have appreciated my history lessons.
@markmakallister4653 Рік тому
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, your peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft
@chloebetony2219 Рік тому
@@molpish. I finished high school 5 years ago - apart te tiriti, we didn’t do much on nz history and I did history all the way through until level 3 - I know they’ve just changed the curriculum so it has to be a part of it which is great but I definitely learned more about colonisation in university than in high school. I’m glad I’m in the last generation to have to have a university degree to learn about this stuff but even then, it depends which courses you take - I did pols sci but I still unintentionally avoided it until my 3rd year at uni. Having colonisation taught in yr 9 and 10 will be great 😊
@chiku40 Рік тому
Kia Ora Vox. As a Māori man in New Zealand I thank you for such an in-depth and beautifully presented analysis of our story. Nga mihi ki a koutou! Thank you to you all. And especially for the wonderful job by the presenter to pronounce all the names correctly. This video brought me to tears. Hearing someone else tell our story really puts in perspective what our tipuna (ancestors) and ourselves today have been through. Thank you.
@greenhawk6839 Рік тому
Kia ora, I have some nitpicks and there's always more to the story but on the whole I think this is very well done for a twenty-six minute video for an international audience. A disparity between Māori and non-Māori remains and I'm not sure we'll ever completely agree on what the right balance of power and resources is, but the Treaty Settlements have been a good start to rebuilding the relationships between our people because none of us are going anywhere, so we might as well take care of each other.
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
"our peoples" what a load of nonsense. I'm only me and you are only you. If you walk down the street grouping and classifying people into races the fault lies with you.
@kylawright785 Рік тому
@@adamirish-yb7rj shut up
@dynamo1796 Рік тому
Exactly right. There's never going to be a balance that the Maori accept because the hardliners want the entire nation under Maori control. What these stories always forget is that history isn't neat and polite. Racism was a major part of society. People believed others to be different or below them. Those people were empowered to feel that way because their side was more militarily powerful and therefore could make laws and enforce their will on others. That's simply how history is - a less civilized and refined time, bigger army diplomacy was the name of the game. I don't support any of this in the modern day and, clearly, the majority of people (Maori and non-Maori) don't either. That's how we have evolved as a nation and a people together. If the feeling was still that Maori didn't deserve a place in this world, we'd be experiencing a situation much closer to the Uyghurs in China, than talking about the Treaty or Maori grievances. Where I take issue however is around a statue of limitations. Where do these reparations end? Because what is conveniently forgotten in arguments is that the reparations are made up of public funds. These funds might be raised through taxes on companies or people, it might be income from SOEs or other interests. But ultimately the money is public funds raised by the democratically elected government of NZ and would otherwise be spent on its communities and infrastructure. But instead, it is spent on reparation structures. I'm not opposed to some kind of restitution, particularly for those very disadvantaged Maori communities, but its never enough. Public funds in the order of hundreds of millions of dollars are spent and the Tribe will always say "this is a start" or "we expect this forms part of a wider settlement". Where is the justice in all of this money being spent for the rest of the nation? On services and infrastructure we could all use, not just a single minority? When is enough, enough?
@Halflifenz Рік тому
This will never end until everyone that is not Maori has left. That is the only outcome that will stop the ongoing protests. It doesn't matter what is paid or what changes are done, it will never be good enough. That's the sad hard truth.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
@@dynamo1796 That's some good analysis of the situation, I think if the hardliners have their way people will be leaving in droves. I have almost no relations that are still living in NZ, they all left for Australia.
@chloebetony2219 Рік тому
Ka pai! What a great video and amazing pronunciation (see everyone, it's not so hard!). This is the Aotearoa that I see and to have captured it so well in this doc was incredible and I'm excited for Aotearoa to have this sort of international recognition. The fact someone not even from here can consistently call this country Aotearoa instead of New Zealand, and include regular te reo throughout the piece is so amazing to see! It's not uncommon here to see this but there's always some who disagree and don't try, so to have an American putting in the mahi and doing it so well is commendable! Thank you for telling this story, we're not perfect here but I think we're on the right track and it would be great to see more colonial countries picking up the torch and carrying it's flame. I haven't been since 2020 but apparently Australia has been increasing it's recognition and acknowledgment of Country and it's these small changes that make way for large scale change later. This has been a long fight in Aotearoa but I personally only started seeing small changes like increase in te reo use in media and more Māori-focused stories being told in recent years and it's been great to see. I think we're seeing the beginning of something great to come and getting international media to tell this story to the world is incredible! Kia ora!
@wonk9910 Рік тому
youd hope its pronouced right this channel is owned by the top 0.00000001%
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
You mean calling New Zealand an unofficial, a-historical name that was invented post the naming of the country as New Zealand. Where 65% of the country want to keep the name New Zealand only. Sounds like you despise both democracy and history.
@yeetman4953 Рік тому
@@wonk9910 ok???
@monkeypie8701 Рік тому
Her pronounciation is not 100% but she's probably better than most Pākehā
@hikaniko7371 6 місяців тому
Btw Aotearoa isn’t the “correct” name it is just as valid as New Zealand, Aotearoa New Zealand is in my opinion better as it acknowledges the both parties and their culture.
@Lenny-ue8hk 11 місяців тому
An interesting tidbit is that in the New Zealand Wars, Māori utilised trench warfare, which reintroduced the idea to the British and is a big reason they ended up using it in WW1.
@SD78 5 місяців тому
This is completely untrue. Trenches were used in the Peninsular War, the Crimean War, Boer War etc. and even in the American Civil War there were great examples of trenches in Plattsburgh and Vicksburg. This myth comes from James Belich; a proven liar and fraud.
@jamalraslan2642 5 місяців тому
Wow. Is there anywhere I can read about this?
@abbyrobertson4143 4 місяці тому
@@jamalraslan2642 also interested in learning more!
@Fresh100 Рік тому
As a Māori person, this video nearly brought me to tears. We don't really get educated on these sorts of things so it's quite emotional every time I discover another thing that people in our culture have struggled with. I mean colonisation is an issue that we've dealth with for centuries now and we've still had to fight for what is ours and what we deserve. Thanks for this video, Vox.
@denisek7 Рік тому
I'm not related to any native peoples, but I cried lots, very touching, I hope justice continues~
@bremCZ Рік тому
We are educated on the treaty and treaty settlements all the time. They are regularly in the news and even part of the general highschool curriculum. Also our Rangatira and Kaumātua should always be teaching this.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
@@bremCZ How about learning something that is actually useful like computer programming.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
As long as we conveniently forget the largest tribes in NZ that were trying to genocide some of the smaller ones. Thank god for colonisation and civility.
@Fresh100 Рік тому
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls Just like how we conveniently forget that the British were trying to completely genocide and control dozens of countries at a time? Thank God for ignorant people trying to cover up their blatant racism by saying it's civil.
@phipimonares9730 Рік тому
I thought this series is dead... I'm happy with the Missing Chapters series came back again...hope the Darkroom series too...
@moonbook12 Рік тому
Same fingers crossed
@hachi78787 Рік тому
Man I miss Darkroom series so bad
@moogle68 Місяць тому
@@hachi78787 What was/is the "Darkmoon" series about?
@loveistheweapon1433 Рік тому
My bestfriend is Māori and I love hearing her tell me about her life and culture in New Zealand. I’ve also heard many stories of her being protected by strangers because they could tell she was Māori
@lilfubz Рік тому
What an honour to have you create a documentary about our beautiful country and the struggles our indigenous peoples endured. Thank you so much for pronouncing the Reo correctly, you did better than most of people living here. May African Americans and Native Americans find peace and justice for the wrongdoings against them.
@xin7383 Рік тому
interesting watch as a filipino. we were notably colonised thrice (spain, USA, japan) yet in only decades have lost all vitriol when it comes to demanding reparations. our own government fails to recognise the war crimes committed against its own people; former president duterte had a statue commemorating comfort women taken down because that issue is "done and over with."
@brandon9172 Рік тому
Ive noticed that with filipinos I know, figured it was just like that with American/canadian ones though.
@kucimaka8092 Рік тому
It's always baffling to me how similar history can be for New Zealand and my motherland...
@rykloog9578 Рік тому
Same here, where are you from?
@jackprichard6780 Рік тому
I guess as a Maori I would say that on some level we are all people. However, I would love to know where you are from. I can read your name but that just makes me more interested.
@kucimaka8092 Рік тому
I'm from Poland.
@kucimaka8092 Рік тому
@@julm7744 I knew that someone without any knowledge of oppression in Europe would show up eventually 😆 Look up "Kulturkampf" and then tell me what you think...
@kucimaka8092 Рік тому
@@julm7744 They have many similarities between them.
@tiarastevens6278 Рік тому
19:21 literally brought me to tears. As a Black American I felt that. My ancestors made the ultimate sacrifice for me to be where I am today. Beautiful piece 👏🏾👏🏾 great job Vox!
@Pou1gie1 Рік тому
Yes, Black people literally built the White House and the US economy (through their hundreds of years of forced labor).
@jackprichard6780 Рік тому
Please come over and visit one day, it's not perfect but it's nice.
@luchts4547 Рік тому
@@jackprichard6780 Quit being modest. I had the pleasure of studying in NZ for a couple years and I consider ever leaving to be the greatest mistake of my life. You really have a special place there.
@joshhudson7413 Рік тому
@@luchts4547 hah no we really don't. People are leaving the country because of living costs, pay and especially crime. Crime has been the worst I've ever seen it here and the government is doing nothing about it. Studying for a couple years is nothing to growing up here. I'd gladly move to Australia.
@aimee-leighkelly2906 Рік тому
@@joshhudson7413 Sounds like someone who doesn’t know how good they have it compared to other countries
@Marjiance26 Рік тому
The fact that the Royal Family recognized their wrongdoings and paying the Maori (even just a little bit) while France literally made Haiti pay for their own revolution and independence is so....
@mariahclaw8458 Рік тому
land back, always. one of the greatest gifts of my life was building relationships in aotearoa with Māori classmates. the impact of solidarity and refusal in Māori communities was undeniably powerful.
@adamirish-yb7rj Рік тому
My parents sold their farm and now the land has gone up in value, can I get my family land back to?
@yeetman4953 Рік тому
@@adamirish-yb7rj troll
@dopaminedreams1122 Рік тому
@@yeetman4953 the entire idea of land back is a troll
@yeetman4953 Рік тому
@@dopaminedreams1122 the land was never sold.
@hoanateaika8111 Рік тому
@@adamirish-yb7rj our people had our land stolen, can we steal it back too?
@benjaminmelese3545 Рік тому
Also, at 4.03: Maori were never a single nation. The declaration of independence was only signed by Northern iwi, claiming to represent everyone else, and hence is controversial in its own right
@lucy-janewalsh9047 Рік тому
Thanks for bringing that to attention. It’s a very important aspect of the issues surrounding the treaty
@joebloggs4295 Рік тому
Ngapuhi sold maori down the drain by hooping In to bed with the crown.
@bremCZ Рік тому
Yes, it is often glossed over for the sake of simplicity.
@user-pg3ll3sb5b Місяць тому
Us it,then lose it to have our own
@luifcocoluv 7 місяців тому
As a kiwi in NZ, I'm happy to see a person covering Māori-related events and issues at a very sincere level. Just the bare minimum of learning how to properly pronounce Māori language and terms is so pleasing and I'm glad Māori history is getting the recognition it deserves.
@user-oh4yd5uh4e 6 місяців тому
They forgot the part about the ram raids. That part of the culture is not getting the recognition it deserves.
@rickjames21 Рік тому
I am Zambian but went to School in Melbourne. While there I made a few close Māori friends and got to learn more about the people. This documentary is absolutely incredible because it shines light on their history and how the crown disenfranchised the natives in the southern pacific.
@DW_Kiwi 9 місяців тому
Not True!!
@hikaniko7371 6 місяців тому
@@mrsmith9597it doesn’t work like that
@aleshasarah Рік тому
This is really well done! The perpetuation of the myth of a "peaceful agreement" between Pakeha and Maori has had far-reaching consequences, including the continued confusion of older generations who were taught this false narrative in schools. As someone born in 1997, I've had more exposure to the truth, but for my parents' generation and older, many are still confused about reparations because they were lied to about Aoteraroa's history in school. I hope more information like this video shared is on platforms like this to educate people about the reality of our history, rather than the fairytale we were taught. It's also interesting to hear how this video can be great resource not just for people in Aoteraroa, but also for anyone interested in how other countries are dealing with the aftermath of colonisation. It's clear that we still have a long way to go in terms of reconciliation and reparations, but it's good to see that at least we're taking some steps in the right direction. By learning from other countries and sharing our own experiences, we can all work towards creating more fair and equal societies.
@ckwind1971 Рік тому
Very salient point, thanks for explaining this.
@r8chlletters Рік тому
I was in school in NZ 15 years before you were born and they taught a very honest and enlightened history at that time that considered the full impacts of European colonization for the Māori people. The enlightened approach of modern NZ has resulted in a society that is as blended as any you will ever find.
@halfalligator6518 Рік тому
I (pakeha) was born in 1982 and I grew up with some knowledge it was a very messy "agreement". Schooling wasnt too terrible by the 90's on this topic. As I got older I only got more sympathetic to Maori and the history that disadvantaged them as a people.
@fspight28 Рік тому
This is probably why there is so much push back in the US about "CRT"
@lucy-janewalsh9047 Рік тому
Interestingly that narrative is also still present overseas too. Many people say to me - ah New Zealand, you were very good to your indigenous people. I tend to feel uncomfortable even saying we were better. What does better mean when you have systematically robbed, marginalised, and striped the rights of a nation of people all for your own gain? Better still is not good enough and I try my best to set the story straight when people congratulate us
@PokhrajRoy. Рік тому
Thank you for this video! Māori people have reclaimed their identity beautifully and are an example to all marginalised communities.
@dickmonddickelheimer9452 Рік тому
Begging the government for handouts isn't reclaiming an identity
@nickstopic7421 Рік тому
@Zaydan Alfariz yes
@moistnutella9560 Рік тому
@Zaydan Alfariz Why would Malaysian Indians and Chinese need reparations? I think Malaysian Indians and Chinese should get equality (like removing the affirmative action in education and public sectors) with Malays but I don't think they need reparations because they are already doing better economically than Malays. If anyone in Malaysia needs reparations that would be Sabah and Sarawak due to the federal government's neglect of the east.
@mark-ish Рік тому
Pokhraj, the notion they have "reclaimed their identities" is ot only superficial but mostly widely inaccurate. It's mostly limited to those with getting financial handouts.
@Banom7a Рік тому
@Zaydan Alfariz orang asli and other Bornean, sure, but Chinese and Indian in Malaysia are doing quite well-off (and in Chinese case, their communities are doing better than Malay) despite the government oppressing them left and right (well the government knew if they go full Idi Amin or Pol Pot the country economy would collapse). perhaps its best by making affirmative action along income level instead of racial would help but that require strong, authoritarian power to do a radical reform and keep the country together and even non-bumi politician are not willing to do as they gain nothing from it.
@ladyteeeee670 Рік тому
I'm Maori and this is such a good video. This is something that my family has gone through and it's a good thing. I live in Australia and how they treat the Aboriginal people makes me really sad.
@kiwi3085 Рік тому
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 why or how
@thvtsydneylyf3th077 Рік тому
@@kiwi3085 think about it, no one wants to revert back to living in caves and making hand paintings all day long, no thanks. Things are a lot better the way they are, nothings perfect.
@kiwi3085 Рік тому
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 I don't see how them having lower technological advancement makes what happened to them deserved though.
@lucy-janewalsh9047 Рік тому
It’s awful. I feel for their people and what they have gone through and it does make me happy that there is at least a path forward in New Zealand
@zzzzrrrrx Рік тому
@@thvtsydneylyf3th077 what tribes lived in caves
@mareecuree Рік тому
This is insightful! Since working for a Kiwi client for over a decade now, I've only known a few Maori words. It's fascinating how they continuously thrive and ensure their culture survives.
@chb2005 Рік тому
I wish there was a video like this about indigenous tribes across Canada
@MrSeekerOfPeace Рік тому
They're given an unbelievable amounts of privilege and benefits.
@andrewbrabandt4975 Рік тому
@@MrSeekerOfPeace it’s very believable actually, considering the horrors the white settlers commited. Also these “benefits” are bandaid solutions that don’t get close to healing the generational trauma white settlers inflicted
@MrSeekerOfPeace Рік тому
@@andrewbrabandt4975 so hunting animals out of season and duty free goods aren't enough? Interesting. I didnt know the past was such an affliction and to be blamed for all the problems society faces.
@andrewbrabandt4975 Рік тому
@@MrSeekerOfPeace hardly. You seem like you are disconnected from First Nations history and what they still deal with today. All good, but I’d hope you’d think differently if you had more information on the state of things.
@wetsock7790 Рік тому
@@MrSeekerOfPeace all of their land got stolen and never returned and most of their population got brutally murdered and u think getting to hunt more is ,,unbelievable amounts of privilege"?
@Erwin_The Рік тому
Thank you. This is the most humanising piece of media on oppressed people I have ever experienced. Thank you for educating and telling this story. It brought tears,hope,sorrow and perhaps a way to deal with our history. Thank you, you touched my heart.
@echidna1428 Рік тому
her pronounciation of Māori names is amazing! ka pai!
@Vaginaninja Рік тому
No it isn't. What is wrong with you?
@mark-ish Рік тому
@@sekhemkare7002 Fabiola butchered many Māori words, despite having a researcher and several other assistants that contributed.
@CeliaDuhSotong Рік тому
i studied in nz for a while and honestly grew to love the country and the people there. and seeing this being covered and educating the masses about what happened in aoteroa is powerful. before studying in nz i barely knew anything about māori or their culture as it’s buried, until i made a close friend at work who is māori, who told and explained to me the horrific things that the british has done on sacred lands. even as someone who isn’t a kiwi, i’m so glad to see that their story is being told.
@brendadwane1418 Рік тому
Ka ngangaro Vox for your awe of what Maaori have achieved...seeing the Waikato river shots and people reminded me of the unifying saying, "He piko, he taniwha". I hope everyone will support the Water Services legislation, like Timi Maipi says in this little doco, the reparations are a drop in the bucket... this upcoming law is another way to repair things (and it makes economic and ecological sense). This doco has great visuals for me and my Year 9 Social Studies classes next year with a necessary reverence of the many people who protested and instigated change in my own lifetime. It's about 25% Tongan students at school so they'll recognise the footage of QEII hanging with her mate, the wonderful Queen Sālote Tupou III. I'd probably swap out that B&W footage for something to show the hard hard work done before my lifetime, maybe a clip of Te Puea? Ngaa mihi manahau
@TaikiFouLung Рік тому
"Loosing land takes away culture" is something that strongly resonates with me, as my ancestors have also been forced to flee their lands and some had land stolen from them during the world wars. Granted, this was in Europe and there is no way of tracing this back with the chaos that happened, I still struggle to find a peoples identity.
@granta3044 Рік тому
You should hear about how hawaii was taken and transformed into a tourist spot. It used to support over a million people and now it couldn't support half the population if it had too
@mk.3925 Рік тому
This is an eye opener, specially for those of us who immigrated to NZ.
@steveatlas3492 Рік тому
Everyone immigrated or migrated to New Zealand 🇳🇿 🤔
@jeevan88888 Рік тому
@@steveatlas3492 He meant migrated recently I guess.
@fallenangel_899 Рік тому
@@steveatlas3492migrated during the last 200 years is what they mean
@markmakallister4653 Рік тому
I learned about some of the war crimes committed by the Maori's enslavement and murder of the Moriori people 1830-1860, their peaceful neighbors. Reparations, pfft, the British ended slavery in NZ, and the rest of the World.
@steveatlas3492 Рік тому
@@fallenangel_899 Setteled
@QuantumWalnut Рік тому
Really appreciate Vox for willing to commit resources to do these long-form reporting. Not least because it is expensive to send a reporter + camera crew across the Pacific Ocean. But to do it in a considerate manner of letting a Black Woman lead the narrative. This is worthwhile investment for journalism - on a par with NYT. Keep up the good work!
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
And there in lies the problem, foreigners with a one sided view of history telling me about my history when I have spent years studying it. Best to let locals tell the story.
@katyngah-ere4942 4 місяці тому
Today people are going to protest against the government who want to go back on the treaty. Today our people will rise around the country holding strong against this racist government we will not be suppressed, we will raise our voices and be heard far and wide
@anne-mareeosborne8718 3 місяці тому
As a pakeha kiwi I will stand with you
@goldenguys995 Рік тому
i really enjoyed this video as someone who is half new Zealander its great to see new Zealand covered and its Maori history hopefully we may see more in the future!
@BrainiacManiac142 Рік тому
Same! All of my mothers side is from new Zealand and I go to see them every few years.
@Vaginaninja Рік тому
Half? What does that even mean? If you've never lived with us, you are not one of us
@AndrewMcColl Рік тому
@@Vaginaninja I suspect Golden guys is referring to one of their parents coming from New Zealand.
@FeliciaKrismanta Рік тому
@@AndrewMcColl lol at that point they're just regular white that got a stint living in colonized land. Why are all yt ppl so proud about their colonizing ancestors 🙄
@ralseihugger Рік тому
@@Vaginaninja that's a very narrow viewpoint :( as long as they hold personal connections to us and our culture i see no issue with identifying as part "new-zealander"
@Flaskkorv Рік тому
That was so perfectly well done. I speak Māori and she was beautiful. What really surprised me was that she used the word 'pākeha' correctly. Not even our own government and media can get that right.
@benjaminmelese3545 Рік тому
Great Video Vox, but please note that the British Crown is distinct from the New Zealand crown. We share the same monarch, but the Crown here refers to the institutions of the state-ministries, agencies etc. So it is the NZ crown and the British monarchy that have recognised their responsibility to Maori
@cheekyb71 Рік тому
I have to disagree with you - our crown is the same as the British crown. Our crown agencies and ministers are representatives of the Queen and serve at her pleasure - they are the same entity, they cannot be separated. Nga mihi nui
@yosefcoleman Рік тому
@@cheekyb71 legally they are different crowns though. The King of New Zealand is legally a different person than the King of the United Kingdom and the Crowns are different legal entities. The atrocities were committed by the British Crown but the modern day stuff is all the New Zealand crown
@takatamiyagawa5688 Рік тому
I recall a newspaper article that suggested that becoming a republic and ceasing to recognize the King of the UK as head of state would amount to a constitutional reset for New Zealand, under which it is not certain that the Treaty of Waitangi and Maori people would continue to have as much of a special place in government as they do now.
@gothicgolem2947 Рік тому
@@yosefcoleman how were hey commited by the British crown? We were a ceremonial monarch then s surely it was the settlers and he British goverment that did
@big_badaboom Рік тому
Benjamin is correct. The "British Crown" is not paying the settlements. In Commonwealth countries, the "Crown" refers to the state. In this case, the NZ Government. Neither Britain nor the Monarchy has paid a single cent towards treaty settlements.
@jamieg9909 Рік тому
As a Kiwi It's awesome to see Māori representation, especially on a big channel like Vox. Great video and nice pronunciation! It's hard to watch and listen to the pain inflicted on the Māori people, but its so necessary to look back so we can remember those who died, and also so we can grow. I pray for Aotearoa and hope that someday the Māori will have their beautiful country back fully. Love and peace to all! 🥰🤙
@benhiatt8094 Рік тому
Awesome work on the video - especially for a foreign company to do their research and put out a well-informed piece. Kā pai.
@rubentoysreview8042 Рік тому
respect for the pronounciation. the amount of people here in nz that don't even want to try is baffling
@art3mis202 3 місяці тому
As tangata whenua (Māori) I also want to thank this reporter. Not only is this a good condensed version of our shared history, it is one of the most respectful I’ve ever watched. Always welcome here e hoa x
@lesfin3265 Рік тому
Māori are pioneers for native language revival through Kohanga Reo and TKKM and now for reparations. Cultures around the world will look to Māori a san example of how this can be possible.
@stoneleighful Рік тому
Maori were inspired by many other peoples and movements too just saying...
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
None of what you said is true.
@evanachan9584 Рік тому
Thank you so much for shedding light on the work being done over here in Aotearoa! Your pronunciations of the word is so fantastic too, you should be very proud of yourself! We genuinely really appreciate your interest and work in shedding light on this subject. Thank you for sharing our history and new ways of building up our people with the rest of the world
@traceyseier329 Рік тому
Watching this made me cry. Thank you for showcasing many Māori voices and showing how difficult it is to both fight for reparations and to process the complex feelings about how inadequate they are. Watching the official apology ceremony was inspirational and deeply sad. It is beautiful to see that many people in Aotearoa are trying to find a way forward. It is painful, imperfect work, but it seems to be making an impact on the dignity and life trajectories of Māori. It makes me hopeful that we can find some kind of a path of healing for my own United States.
@eb.3764 Рік тому
The difference between New Zealand/Aotearoa and their success is due to the size of their land compared to places like Australia, Canada, USA etc. This means that the original inhabitants (the Maori) share much more similar culturally compared to the First Nations from Canada (many differences from East to West coast). The Maori are able to unite easier due to less diverging cultural practices and languages.
@seanaugagnon6383 Рік тому
This is an interesting point. It makes it easier for the indigenous people to agree and easier for the oppressor to make an agreement. It's the whole divide and conquer thing. Harder to divide equals harder to conquer.
@observedot7490 Рік тому
And even then….
@lking8355 Рік тому
Does mean reparations still can’t happen
@aardvark1234 Рік тому
I mean, they used to regularly fight wars and enslave one another along tribal lines before colonisation, so I wouldn't say they were united.
@jackprichard6780 Рік тому
As a Maori I am very familiar with the concept of the "Iwi of one". For a small country we are often very dividend and often trying to kneecap each other for personal, family or tribal advantage. I think there are many factors which helped New Zealand be as good as it is, which is by no means perfect. - We were colonized late compared to other places. - other than good farm land there aren't a lot of resources to extract so settlers came to live and farm. - Maori, while stone age, had a highly sophisticated social system so could understand English people - Maori and Pakeha find each other attractive. I come from a mixed race family and this has always been the norm. Intermarriage is a good basis for a society that doesn't get to bad. America is large but the federal structure gives a lot of space to do things at a smaller scale. New Zealand is small but we can't do that here because we are big is a bit weak.
@wyldphyre_ Рік тому
This was a great video. As an Australian who recognises the great, and very similar, injustices done to our aboriginal tribes, it would be wonderful to see a similar video produced on what happened in Australia.
@davidsteed7278 Рік тому
Mate, if you think the injustices in Australia were 'very similar', you have a bit of an education ahead of you.
@wyldphyre_ Рік тому
@@davidsteed7278 I know it was quite bad in Australia. I used “similar” as a simple catch all for the whole genocide and wiping out of culture etc
@kimjong-un8543 6 місяців тому
@@davidsteed7278 Can you please elaborate
@johnwalker283 Рік тому
Dispossession is not only historical in this country. Twenty five per cent of the population right now own no property.
@Longtack55 Рік тому
For "property" read "land."
@seanodwyer4322 Рік тому
''God is one off them.
@keithtonkin6959 Рік тому
Wow! Congratulations for this video. It tells it straight and as well at least as any New Zealand doco has done and way better than anyone else (including some British attempts) Even your pronunciation of Maori was the best I've heard from a foreigner and better than many Pakeha. As a retired teacher who loved to teach New Zealand History I wish I'd had this at my disposal during those years. The present government has forced a complete rewrite of our history curriculum to tell it straight too. I'm proud of what New Zealand - Aotearoa has achieved thus far but I know it is just a start. However a good start I believe and some benefits to Maori are showing. Kia kaha e hine.
@mishaelpullian1993 Рік тому
"...We want the whole car" That part
@mark-ish Рік тому
Māori are lucky to get what they have now, considering how brutal humanity is & not get eviscerated like the Māori did with the Moriori, killing them off.
@ronnieitaquab1008 Рік тому
I felt that part.And he's right.Give them back everything is the only way to make amends
@kiwi3085 Рік тому
@@mark-ish You know the Moriori are still around, aye? Also I don't see how that's a justification for the treatment the Māori received from the British, especially when it was the British that caused the Musket Wars in the first place and sowed division specifically to claim as much land as they did.
@KMcKay14 Рік тому
Hawaii has the exact same history. Like scarily similar. You should do them next !
@flamealchemy7964 Рік тому
The Maoli and the Maori! Same word same people same atrocities. Also Ainu and Aluets and sub Saharan Mauri…also the woman of these nations had chin tattoos and are all related anatomically via rocker jaw. And Rua Kenana was an Israelite who got a pardon but otherwise ignored in his claims. Maori legends vary minutely and contrary to modern narratives.
@luckilew Рік тому
Its funny we all have the same problem in common 😅
@aimee-leighkelly2906 Рік тому
Duh cos we’re cousins
@RickyMatthewsBarraganking Рік тому
Your neat alright lady it's very commendable to see you speaking te reo maori with such ease. Thank you for showing an important history of Aotearoa and the struggles our ancestors have been through. Much love to the reporter and Vox and everyone who has been involved in this video. Thank you.
@ndorobei4391 10 місяців тому
But, Maori also active in New Zealand economy. Maori people also contribute to 50 percent of New Zealand tourism industry. Thats a lot of money. They don't just sit down and enjoy welfare money. They work. New Zealand GDP is $249 billions and Maori economy is $66 billions. Around 25 percent of New Zealand GDP. Look it up on the internet/ google.
@angusmcbean752 5 місяців тому
Pure racism. People deserve justice regardless
@andrewlim9345 Рік тому
Thanks for this doco on the Treaty of Waitangi settlement process. Thanks for covering the differences between the English and Maori versions of the Treaty. Just a correction. Crown in New Zealand refers to the New Zealand Government and not the British Crown. The British Monarch may be our head of state but most of the everyday decision making is done by elected representatives from the NZ House of Representatives. The Governor-General represents the British Monarch in NZ.
@moiscotv Рік тому
The Governor-General also is the one who signs the laws made by parliament into law. So at the end of the day, the British Crown gets the final say. Actual Kiwi here!
@579simon Рік тому
@@moiscotv Technically it is the New Zealand Crown. With the Governor-General representing the King of New Zealand.
@moiscotv Рік тому
@@579simon Actually good point. King Charles is the King of New Zealand too. It's really all semantics at that point but technically true.
@Edmonton-of2ec Рік тому
Still missing a few details. The Governor-General does not represent the monarch of Great Britain, they represent the monarch of New Zealand. The representative of the British crown in New Zealand is the British High Commissioner to New Zealand (and also the Governor of the Pitcarin Islands), Iona Thomas
@tankerspam5884 Рік тому
@@Edmonton-of2ec Yep. The nuance is that State and Royalty are not the same. The New Zealand State is "Ruled" by The New Zealand Crown which just so happens to be held by the British Monarch, not because the Monarch is British. The British Government no longer has any authority over New Zealand, Crown and State are two separate entities. The idea of nationhood like we see it now is very different from how the crown exists.
@justaperson8381 Рік тому
I am a white New Zealander, I am glad my country has done as much as it has for the Maori people, but there is still much to be improved. Ka pū te ruha, ka hao te rangatahi.
@selecta3818 Рік тому
Amazing to see you pronounce te reo pretty accurately!! A lot of North Americans have trouble with the vowel sounds but you were really good. So cool to see you’re exposing the rest of the world to our bicultural country 😊 thank you!!!
@AholeAtheist Рік тому
Her vowels were off though. Particularly "e" and "o" but sometimes even the "a"s.
@AholeAtheist Рік тому
@@themaidofmiddleearth Yeah, and I appreciate it, but it's just not as good as many of the comments are claiming.
@hikaniko7371 6 місяців тому
As a Kiwi it absolutely astounds me to hear so many people say they weren’t taught this in school. I genuinely thought we all had heard this a million times.
@anniesimpendingdoom 6 місяців тому
Right!! I was taught about this and the treaty every year since yr7😭
@jordyharlem Рік тому
Still shocks me today when Tainui offered to help the Ngā puhi tribunal in negotiating with the crown for settlements and the "leaders" rejected it. These old heads would rather fight amongst themselves instead of investing in the future of the next generation. Honestly just gonna have to wait for them to pass on and the next generation take over for there to be any further movement.
@seanodwyer4322 Рік тому
jordy- ''' keep all expectations below zero on that one.'''
@mason.mp4718 Рік тому
As a Kiwi. I am so glad you can pronounce Māori really good for being an American or non New Zealander
@francokambela7780 Рік тому
Inspirational to all native peoples in the who were dispossessed of their land by the colonizers
@chrisbarber2389 6 місяців тому
The Maori SOLD their land to get European goods.
@neilifill4819 Рік тому
Colonization is colonization, no matter where it occurs. This report gave me a thought: that “reparations” (which effectively means “repairs”) is, perhaps, too kind a word. Will reparations in the US, for example, repair the damage? “Settlement” is, perhaps, a better word because it is agreed to by both sides. It may not come close to repairing the damage, but it’s a place to start. Lots to consider for post-colonial repair negotiations.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
How about thankyou to the white man for the modern world and relative peace and security.
@neilifill4819 Рік тому
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic, but I hope you are. I’m learning to invoke Titus 3:9 for certain responses, but I have to say that none of the so-called “modern world” was possible without the brutality against nonwhite people. Also, I haven’t seen much peace and security. I believe we would have achieved much better peace, security, progress, and prosperity if the brutality of slavery and colonialism never happened.
@mudzsri Рік тому
An amazing piece. Bravo. As echoed by other comments, the detail with how she pronounced te reo was a delight to see.
@f6876 Рік тому
The horrors of New Zealand colonisation are often not covered in the media or western education. Thank you Vox for covering such an important topic. My hope is for all marginalised and indigenous people receive the reparations due to them.
@matthowells6382 Рік тому
@@kenehimillar1633 Do the reparations come from the UK or the NZ government though? I assumed it was the NZ government, which of course is still tied into the British crown
@nathanbombardo Рік тому
@@matthowells6382 I believe its New Zealand money under the New Zealand Crown
@micahstoodley2488 Рік тому
@@nathanbombardo Yeah it all comes from the NZ government. It would be nice if the UK pitched in considering they caused this whole mess though.
@nathanbombardo Рік тому
@@micahstoodley2488 True
@mark-ish Рік тому
@Kenehi Millar you're exceedingly badly misinformed if you think treaty settlement reparations have any relevance to UK.
@chyna-lilyrawlinson4154 Рік тому
NZ history is not taught in our own schools, this is the type of digestable education that is so valuable. Thank you for your mahi
@hikaniko7371 6 місяців тому
What kind of school did you go to to not get taught this? We literally got the same story shoved down our throats every Waitangi Day through my education.
@halaknows Рік тому
9:26 btw this is Queen Salote of Tonga. She isn’t Māori. But thank you for recognising our country and it’s people.
@Edmonton-of2ec Рік тому
Yeah, shouldn’t be surprised Vox would make that mistake. Their analysis of any topic involving monarchies, British or otherwise, is often chock full of inaccuracies
@KeetahHudson 2 місяці тому
I was just gonna say that too 😂
@miikavuorio6925 6 місяців тому
170 mil is peanuts, mine god, ain't no way that lands economic output prior to the 1800s would put it anywhere near 170 mil
@troophq Рік тому
I was part of that land march in 1975 from Porirua to Wellington with my parents it was a pivotal time for Aotearoa, I will never forget the aroha during that march as a small child.
@mamingakuri2436 Рік тому
The thing that absolutely pains me is the fact that when say for example a new outlet uses Aotearoa in their caption there will be hundreds of boomers in the comment saying how it's wrong, "its new Zealand" and "oh hope they're coming to New Zealand, never heard of this place called Aotearoa" . that's the kind of things they say. There are plenty of people who love it, unfortunately, a few struggle to accept our language luckily it would seem that the younger generations are the ones supporting it.
@caad5258 Рік тому
I prefer Aotearoa easily. It's a unique name, not derivative of an Island in Holland. Also its just weird to call our country "Country 2.0".
@mamingakuri2436 Рік тому
@@caad5258 yeah, I like both. I guess it kind of represents how we have two sides to the country. If I had to choose id chose Aotearoa
@TomorrowWeLive Рік тому
@@caad5258 Not at all, there's dozens of places and countries called New Something. Completely normal.
@yeoldeseawitch Рік тому
@@TomorrowWeLive while this is not a country, an example would be "New York"
@chrisbarber2389 8 місяців тому
What is left out of this video is the fact that before the Europeans took control of New Zealand, about 80,000 Maori were killed by other Maori during the musket wars. The Maori actually asked the British to take over to prevent their self-extermination.
@iamnormal8648 Рік тому
Thanks for teaching me the real name of those islands. *Aotearoa* Such a beautiful name. I will use it from now.
@Kimihro Рік тому
As much as I support reparations, cash and land settlements are, as the gentleman said, peanuts. These is no trade price for genocide. You cannot put a price on it and hope the survivors are satisfied, and I hope that what these Maōri are rewarded blossoms through their generations. American reparations need to start from the ground up for our society to make sure no one is set up for that kind of vulnerability. The things that keep people trapped in cycles of poverty, crime, drug abuse, racism, all need to be addressed. That means universal free healthcare. That means ending the war on drugs. That means getting religion out of schools, getting southern revisionism out of textbooks. Prison reform. Police reform. Abolishment of predatory financial institutions, of our current credit score system. Auditing of institutions that redline and blacklist people. UBI, child care programs, I really could go on. But cash payments by themselves would just not be enough.
@CioneCiox 6 місяців тому
This is amazing. I am Salvadorian by my parents but born in the US… I use to visit my grandparents home and my grandfather had old books of mythology folklores from that region. I got more curious about the original indigenous languages only to discover they are no longer spoken most likely due to Spanish colonialism. To see other indigenous people be able to keep at least part of their heritage alive is truly beautiful, even in the heartbreak of it all. ❤
@ughimtrash8562 Рік тому
As a pakeha kiwi I really enjoyed this video, I graduated high school in 2019 and hardly learnt any of the details of this video, only the same nondescript overview
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
Read the book, Pakeha slaves Maori masters if you want a real education.
@vlogdevincent2266 Рік тому
I've never thought I would see a video about new zealand, I'm so happy as a kiwi
@juliaconnell Рік тому
there are LOTS of videos about Aotearoa/New Zealand on youtube - you can be a very happy kiwi over xmas break 🙃
@AndrewMcColl Рік тому
@@juliaconnell but not that many on Vox's channel. At least not entirely about Aotearoa.
@mark-ish Рік тому
@@AndrewMcColl so look elsewhere. 🤦♂️
@AndrewMcColl Рік тому
@@mark-ish I not the one looking, I was just clarifying the original comment for Julia.
@jeronheihei Рік тому
The hosts pronunciation of Te Reo Maori is better than most people who have been born and raised here in Aotearoa
@Tahiel5 Рік тому
Thank you so much for making this Vox! Reparations are possible.
@HKT100 Рік тому
shout out for that crisp clear pronounciation of the indigenous names
@CodyDockerty Рік тому
I'm very pleasantly surprised to see Aotearoa covered. Kia kaha
@BrinkersMad Рік тому
I finished schl ten years ago and wasn’t taught any of this. Sad. I hope as a country people find the time to learn about these issues etc as it’s important
@tankerspam5884 Рік тому
Even in a video this short there is a lot of nuanced missed. So, so many ups and downs. The story behind what forced the British crown to sign that treaty is a video in itself. The treatment of Māori for the past 30 years is only just beginning to make a difference, and even in my comparatively short life I've started to notices those changes. There's a long, long way to go.
@chicagoliightsx 11 місяців тому
Apparently, Pakeha's ancestors, here in America, either "their families didn't own slaves", nor did they "arrive in the US _prior_ to the late 1500's" 😒🙄 weird... 🤔 But somehow, they all fought in wars, on the American side, since time immemorial 🙃??!?
@beatrizcascelli Рік тому
I am simply speechless! What a phenomenal work! Congrats, Vox!
@carriecosgrove8695 Рік тому
When Tame Iti gave his analogy about the 'stolen car', that's the best illustration of Theft vs The measure of reparation provided by the Crown. It's simple, give back what was stolen - in full measure! Hei aha! Manaakitanga! ♥️ This young lady has taken care to share our history concisely. As Tāngata Whenua, I appreciate that.
@lanalouise Рік тому
Your pronunciation was so beautiful, this was so well put together
@anne-mariepetersen8501 Рік тому
As someone of Danish / Samoan Chinese descent I know the relationship the Danes had with the Māori. My family would have died without local iwi help. The British couldn't have cared less. So I'm utterly impressed and grateful to see videos like this come up. I feel so blessed to be from Aotearoa but there's so much more we need to do to make amends. And it will take the rest of our lives and then some. And that's ok. It's important. IMHO we're not doing enough. But we will continue to learn and do better. We have to. The alternative is not acceptable.
@funtimesatbeaverfalls Рік тому
The alternative is to tell people to stand on their own two feet, get a job, and the freebies have run out. Yeah British descendants are so terrible, giving Polynesians free houses and paying for them to have ten kids. Yah what an awesome future we will have being bankrupt.
@Sofiaode18 6 місяців тому
@@funtimesatbeaverfalls > Stand on your own two feet and get a job Imagine being told this by the people who stole your land. If the British was so against freebies then they should give up what’s not theirs.
@magdalena_dewinter Рік тому
oh my god, this has got to be the best pronouncing from a non kiwi i have ever heard, great job on this video!!!
@djjoshski Рік тому
Good wasn’t it
@SammieSea Рік тому
Imagine that African Americans make some headway on reparations inspired by the Māori's work, the Māori who's land march was inspired by American civil rights movement. A full circle of support and connection while being an ocean apart
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