What's the best CHEAP new car? Citroen vs Dacia vs Toyota | What Car?

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What's the best cheap car you can buy? We take the value-focused Citroen C3, Dacia Sandero and Toyota Aygo X on a 620-mile road trip to find out if new car bargains still exist.
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@lakesandfells
@lakesandfells Місяць тому
For me the Dacia was the clear winner in this test.
@ralzvy
@ralzvy Місяць тому
for me no cus its a dacia
@Adi7x
@Adi7x Місяць тому
MG4
@kaloyancholakov3725
@kaloyancholakov3725 Місяць тому
You have to be a madman/risktaker to buy dacia before toyota.
@AdrianroTV
@AdrianroTV 24 дні тому
True, Dacia has the most comfort out of the 3, it has bigger space, bigger boot, faster acceleration and it looks better than the other 2.
@aarondynamics1311
@aarondynamics1311 24 дні тому
@@ralzvy What's that supposed to mean?
@WithCars909
@WithCars909 Місяць тому
I like this idea of taking 3 cheap cars on a road trip, more of this please
@whatcar
@whatcar Місяць тому
Thank you! We have more cheap car road trips in the diary.
@WithCars909
@WithCars909 Місяць тому
@@whatcar great to hear 👍
@DavidJohnston58
@DavidJohnston58 Місяць тому
​@@whatcar I have now subscribed 👌
@crestas9
@crestas9 Місяць тому
@@whatcarplease also consider the Skoda Fabia or the Seat Ibiza
@jonsnow9428
@jonsnow9428 Місяць тому
Way more informative than that other channel that just seems to just drag race each car. Also this may be a second (town) car purchase to get the kids to school
@dragosi8980
@dragosi8980 Місяць тому
For the Dacia phone holder you can buy a very small cable to charge the phone, that's the whole idea. So you don' have a long cable going all through your dashboard. It's a great idea.
@KanishQQuotes
@KanishQQuotes Місяць тому
Yes but urinalist gonna cry about no leather clad dashboard in a cheap city car
@raka522
@raka522 Місяць тому
The top USB port is also connected directly to the radio. If you only have the simple 8" media display installed and not the Media Nav, Android Auto or Apple Car Play can only be used via USB cable and not via WiFi.
@MTMihai
@MTMihai Місяць тому
Wow, you actually managed to put that lack of space, lack of power, lack of looks Double Cross in pole position. Impressive!
@eadsierestorations
@eadsierestorations Місяць тому
Yes....how much do Toyota pay you? Lol....how actually sad.
@geoffb3240
@geoffb3240 Місяць тому
So the gutless, 4 seat, boot the size of a thimble car wins?!?! Hmmmm!
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 Місяць тому
Yeah that's how it works. Doesn't even have a reach adjustable steering wheel. I had a mid spec 2017 C3 as a rental and I'd rather have that again over a jacked up Aygo.
@haziqali9716
@haziqali9716 Місяць тому
Actually love my Aygo X as a first car but would prefer a dacia just because this car genuinely has no power whatsoever 😢
@petermooney2016
@petermooney2016 Місяць тому
An SUV? 1 out of 3 - no Sports, and no Utility with a weeny boot.
@borsh2002
@borsh2002 Місяць тому
@@petermooney2016 best comment, i must recon!
@spig021
@spig021 Місяць тому
The Toyota is NOT an SUV just because it has big plastic wheel arches.
@ggj666
@ggj666 Місяць тому
I must be getting old, the "budget" end of the car market is still 5K more than I have ever spent on a car.
@DavidJohnston58
@DavidJohnston58 Місяць тому
That's biting a lot of us on the butt!
@Myst3YT
@Myst3YT Місяць тому
@nevis8106 No longer in North America unfortunately.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Місяць тому
​@nevis8106i think not even owning a car at all is the way most people in the uk are heading. Used cars look to me now what i think new cars should cost.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Місяць тому
@nevis8106 really depends how bad the cost of living crisis gets. For a lot of people the car will be the first thing to go.
@I_know_what_im_talking_about
@I_know_what_im_talking_about Місяць тому
@@chrishart8548- we going back to horses or what? How you gonna travel without a car?! There’s PLENTY of quality used cars available. No reason to buy New unless you really like a model, really need it and obviously can afford it.
@dustinzitto618
@dustinzitto618 Місяць тому
I travelled from Bulgaria to Germany and back in the Dacia Logan (sedan version of the Sandero). The car is a bit noisy, fact, but the seats are superb. Back support is top notch.
@TheDarrenP
@TheDarrenP Місяць тому
Mostly older tech which is far more reliable.
@tennolife9930
@tennolife9930 Місяць тому
We own a 2011 Logan 1.6L, it almost has 200k km on the dash. The car saw the service exactly zero times (besides oil/filters and belts). We also took it on roads where a land rover would clench its cheeks because for some reason the suspension is very soft and it has a lot of ground clearance, thing's seen the islands of greece, the mountains of switzerland and everything in between. It's absolutely surprising how good of a car it is. And we bought it new, top range with all the good stuff for only ~5000 EUR, I really doubt there is a single car on this planet more economical and practical than that. (maybe a close contender, but no necessarily due to its price, the Volkswagen Golf/Variant from 1999-2006 with the 1.9 TDI engine)
@raka522
@raka522 Місяць тому
@@TheDarrenP The fact that Dacia has mostly older technology is no longer the case since the Sandero 3. Current Clio technology is actually installed thanks to the current EU laws, which require certain safety functions that older vehicle chassis can no longer fulfill.
@rantg
@rantg 2 дні тому
can I hear more details about your trip? we are about to do the same :)
@Twmpa
@Twmpa Місяць тому
Cramped, claustrophobic, gutless, limited rear space, small boot, slowest infotainment, most expensive. All terms used to describe the Toyota which also only has four seats, sits in a class below the other two and is the most expensive. The top of the range Aygo X at nearly 20 grand for what is effectively a competitor to a Kia Picanto is ludicrously expensive. Yet somehow, it wins this test???
@TheMaleforce
@TheMaleforce Місяць тому
Test was done by generation woke who have no idea about anything, the Aygo is not a proper car as you say it's more like a Picanto. One simple rule applies to depreciation, the more you pay the more you lose. Dacia Sandero is far better than the other two.
@konhenry9713
@konhenry9713 Місяць тому
Toyota boot space is limited and this conclusion to toyota winning is ridiculous
@devonbikefilms
@devonbikefilms Місяць тому
Advertising revenue? I’ve driven all these cars and this is not the conclusion I would have come to. The Dacia on the other hand, I’d definitely be happy with that. The toy mota is just too expensive.
@leaningtower73
@leaningtower73 Місяць тому
In fact what a weird conclusion these guys came up with. Who told them practicality is not important in the low end price range? Just for interior space and boot capacity I would buy the Sandero
@riceburner4747
@riceburner4747 Місяць тому
Competitor to the KIA?? I bet you pay more in maintenance. If I would be looking for large/luxurious cars, I wouldn't be looking at these. Cheap DEPENDABLE car is what I'D WANT.🇱🇷
@urbanspaceman7183
@urbanspaceman7183 Місяць тому
You have got to be kidding. Dacia by a country mile. You have just lost all credibility.
@wallycustard1281
@wallycustard1281 27 днів тому
My colleague has a new Dacia. It felt cheap and designed to fall apart after 5 years. I didn't like it at all. It was cheap for a reason.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen Місяць тому
"The average price of a car in *2023* ?" £37k number may well be *because the **_average_** person couldn't afford a new car in 2023.*
@rleerm
@rleerm Місяць тому
I suppose that price excludes 2nd hand cars and includes lease. Best cheap car is a 2nd hand car. Best for environment as well.
@vangestelwijnen
@vangestelwijnen Місяць тому
Same here in the Netherlands. Almost 40K in Euro's for a new car.... My 2009 Renault costed 14K new and has all I need. Where did it all go wrong?
@maxhugen
@maxhugen Місяць тому
@@vangestelwijnen But but but you'll save money... on the insurance - oops, I meant on tires - oops I meant on depreciation - oops... 😂 AND... you could buy another Renault for probably less than the cost of a replacement EV battery.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Місяць тому
​@@rleermsomeone has to buy the car new for there to be second hand cars
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Місяць тому
​@@vangestelwijneninflation. Money printing, and covid lockdowns.
@stevencampbell1150
@stevencampbell1150 Місяць тому
I can answer that with 2 words... Good news! The Dacia Sandero is going to win hands down and they're brilliant value and great cars to drive.
@TheSwaroopB
@TheSwaroopB Місяць тому
*crowd cheers* "Ahem, moving on..."
@ivanjovanovic362
@ivanjovanovic362 Місяць тому
Holy sh*t that Dacia looks the best and is the best 😂
@costelgigi31
@costelgigi31 Місяць тому
Poor people cannot afford but the best of the best. 🤣
@Tom-sg4iv
@Tom-sg4iv Місяць тому
​@@costelgigi31I had cash for 40x top level Sandero's, but only got one. And I must say I'm very happy with the car. Amazing value for money.
@costelgigi31
@costelgigi31 Місяць тому
@@Tom-sg4iv No value is good value, no safety is best safety.
@Anonymous-sb9rr
@Anonymous-sb9rr Місяць тому
It is the best, but I think the C3 looks a lot more stylish.
@doru10922
@doru10922 Місяць тому
That Toyota is the entry level? The Sandero top of the trim? At 15 000 still cheaper than Toyota
@markvincent4340
@markvincent4340 Місяць тому
The aygo and sandero are completely different. Aygo is a four seater, sandero has five seats. Aygo boot is so small, but sandero is pretty big. Sandero beats the aygo any day.
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 Місяць тому
Except if you need a smaller car, with a small boot etc.
@markvincent4340
@markvincent4340 Місяць тому
@@codincoman9019 Exactly
@razvanursache9493
@razvanursache9493 Місяць тому
Who would pay more money for a smaller car? More money for less boot space, for less space on the back bench, less power, less looks? Where's the convenience in that?
@peterhayward1848
@peterhayward1848 Місяць тому
More safety kit and better reliability in the Aygo X.
@codincoman9019
@codincoman9019 Місяць тому
@@razvanursache9493, nu toți au aceleași nevoi ca tine. De exemplu, eu prefer o mașină mai mică, mai fiabilă, cu costuri mai mici de întreținere pe durata vieții (TCO, Total Cost of Ownership), cu design mai fain etc.
@drasticplastic
@drasticplastic Місяць тому
I traded in a C3 against an Aygo X automatic for my wife. We had it 3 months and she absolutely hated it too small too slow and far too noisy. So I ended trading it in for another C3 which she finds very comfortable and loves. It taught me an expensive lesson do not surprise your wife with a new car without asking her 1st.
@LIONtib
@LIONtib Місяць тому
Or maybe just don't downgrade from a subcompact to a supermini??
@JimboRustles
@JimboRustles Місяць тому
I drove a C3 and found it dreadful compared to my 2010 Honda Civic, can't imagined what an Aygo feels like then
@LIONtib
@LIONtib Місяць тому
@@JimboRustles The Civic is in a class above the C3. To be fair the C3 is only nice in the upper trim levels. The lower ones look and feel as cheap as it gets. And the Aygo is somehow worse.
@JimboRustles
@JimboRustles Місяць тому
@@LIONtib It was the engine that felt horrible, supposedly it's 83 hp but feels like 50, a 75 hp Peugeot 206 runs like a Swiss clock compared to those 3 cylinders.
@ianworley8169
@ianworley8169 Місяць тому
I loved the look of the C3 and wanted to buy one for my wife. I was made up to be given one as a hire car on holiday. The worst car I've ever driven. It actually made me feel nauseous driving it on winding roads. Wallowed about on the least bends and utterly gutless up steep hills. Horrible car.
@jansefran1752
@jansefran1752 Місяць тому
Dacia is the winner. Very good car. Much better than most of people thinks.
@olias2716
@olias2716 Місяць тому
two star crash rating......no thanks....
@jansefran1752
@jansefran1752 Місяць тому
@@olias2716 If you hawe no intentions to crash - than this is irellavant ... If you crash a lot - than - is necessery to hawe a car - strong / safe as TANK - VOLVO for example.
@marksouthwell4490
@marksouthwell4490 Місяць тому
​@@olias2716for occupant safety they'd probably score 4 or 5 on the older system, they now scored on intelligent safety features IE lane departure warning etc. so for occupant and structural safety they're most likely a safe car
@vangestelwijnen
@vangestelwijnen Місяць тому
@@olias2716 Buying a car for the event that never happens. Or buying a car for daily pleasure and convenience?
@Twmpa
@Twmpa Місяць тому
@@olias2716 These cars are marked down by the NCAP organisations nowadays because they do not have the electronic driver inteference and distraction (sorry, assistance) technologies such as lane departure warning.
@russell5791
@russell5791 Місяць тому
So it's like comparing apples and pears. The Sandero is in a different class, it's a 5 seater, faster, has a boot that can be used. And its thousands cheaper. Yes if you are in the market for a small city car, then the Toyota is better and will depreciate less and probably outlive a sandero. Can't really compare the 2
@naferemix
@naferemix Місяць тому
Dacia easily. Shame the price has shot up so much but it’s all the necessary benefits of a new Clio without the ‘impersonation’ of a plush interior and creaky extra decor
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench Місяць тому
Yea and their 2 star crash safety rating is amazing..
@dustinzitto618
@dustinzitto618 Місяць тому
@@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrenchnot for structural reasons though.
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench Місяць тому
@@dustinzitto618 hmm maybe because they’re so bloody cheap..
@skeed.5768
@skeed.5768 Місяць тому
​@@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrenchtheir crash rating is 2 stars because of the lack of pedestrian safety systems, but if you crash in a dacia you have just as much chance of a survival as if you crashed in a renault clio
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench
@FrenchBulldogsCantSpeakFrench Місяць тому
Still not an excuse for being unsafe 🤦🏼
@chrisburn7178
@chrisburn7178 Місяць тому
First sentence: "Big luxury SUVs are pointless, wasteful and dangerous personal vanity projects". There, fixed it. Thumbs up for these little cars 👍
@runningawayvagabond5876
@runningawayvagabond5876 Місяць тому
Wish we could get the Dacia over on this side of the world but unfortunately I live in the land of single people thinking they NEED a 7 passenger SUV or some bro thinking he might get a trailer at some unspecified point in time in the future so gets a full size full cab pickup. The cheeky Sandero would be dead in the water as soon as it landed.
@68404
@68404 Місяць тому
I thought Dacia would vbe available in Ukraine. Or are you just a tourist?
@gingernutpreacher
@gingernutpreacher Місяць тому
​@@68404are you picking a fight over zone one suporting ukraine?
@Don_Puparo
@Don_Puparo Місяць тому
USA@@68404
@razvanipati
@razvanipati Місяць тому
Buy a Lada Niva and shut up
@Blue2024_rs
@Blue2024_rs Місяць тому
@@68404 I think he os from the US. It's obvious that Dacia is selling in UA, as Romania is it nighbour
@hughventer2934
@hughventer2934 Місяць тому
This has been one of the best videos from what car. So refreshing to review affordable cars, they don’t seem as scripted and look like they’re enjoying themselves.
@whatcar
@whatcar Місяць тому
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
@DavidJohnston58
@DavidJohnston58 Місяць тому
100%
@gsonz172
@gsonz172 Місяць тому
The Aygo X is a city car, people buy it because of its small size and good economy. If you want more space in the boot or better performance you buy a Yaris (which would fit better to this comparison anyways). Also don't forget that the Aygo has adaptive cruise control with lane keeping assist as standard, together with other stuff like high beam assist. The Aygo X should rather be compared to similar sized cars like Hyundai i10, Kia Picanto and Suzuki Ignis. This would make way more sense.
@adriang.c.2986
@adriang.c.2986 Місяць тому
agree, it is different class, the problem is the price of the yaris :)
@DavidJohnston58
@DavidJohnston58 Місяць тому
We went with the Dacia, great little car, screen does all we want, has auto lights and wipers, sat nav and it's dual fuel. LPG we still have three garages in town with pump and it's 74.9 this week. Ironic that we bought it as a runaround and now use it for longer journeys. Only use our Citroen e-C4 as the runaround given the amount of problems and stress we had on road trips getting a vacant, working charger. Since swapping the cars around motoring has become a pleasure again.
@evergreenalba
@evergreenalba Місяць тому
They're still too pricey for those who are earning less than £30k. The cost of living and stagnant wages are killing off the small car sector.
@markwiles3485
@markwiles3485 Місяць тому
Dacia’s facelift for the Sandero removed the six speed gearbox, replacing it with a five speed. They also swapped Media Nav (with built-in satnav and wireless Apple CarPlay) with Media Display that has no satnav and requires a USB cable for CarPlay. The Sandero in the former top of the range Comfort specification of 2020/21/22 was much better value than the Expression of late 2022 onwards. £13245 on the road in May 2022 and great value then.
@ligametis
@ligametis Місяць тому
I don't think Sandero is really the best Dacia model to buy. New Duster is more expensive but looks like a way higher class car.
@alanmole7292
@alanmole7292 Місяць тому
My Wife’s 22 plate Sandero Stepway has six speeds, Apple car play, touch screen colour display with Satnav, climate control, cruise and speed limiter, everything you could want for £18000. It also goes like. sh1t off a shovel.
@sebastianstoica578
@sebastianstoica578 Місяць тому
The Sandero still has the 6 speed gearbox in the Stepway version. And that varies depending on the market. In Romania you can get it with both 5 and 6 speed gearbox.
@Jehowy666
@Jehowy666 Місяць тому
It's the other way around, the old, pre-facelift model had 5 speed gearbox, since ~november 21 all Sandero have 6-speed.
@sebastianstoica578
@sebastianstoica578 Місяць тому
@@Jehowy666, they have reintroduced the 5 speed gearboxes on some models since a year or so ago.
@petrolpoodle6617
@petrolpoodle6617 Місяць тому
These comments really wind me up - typical viewers of UKposts that (to be fair just like I used to) have absolutely no idea how much time, effort and work goes into making these videos (8 hours of editing on top of half a day filming for a 15 to 20 min product and I'm a professional videographer) but get so SO personally hurt if _their_ favourite didn't win. For the record, the Dacia also seemed an easy win to me but they clearly made it an incredibly close call between the two, so who cares. Let's however appreciate that they went through every car in immense detail, properly laid out all the things you need to consider when buying one of these 3 and avoided attempting to be a knock off clone of the Top Gear trio. A brilliant format in my opinion, numbers properly researched and the final decision I can _understand_ but just don't agree with. Epic work guys, keep it up!
@mitchreeves1
@mitchreeves1 Місяць тому
The Citroen's huge downfall that nobody mentions, is that although they've almost matched the Dacia Sandero on price, their finance rates are incredibly high. The C3 is 13.9% APR! The Dacia is 7.9%. That makes an enormous difference on monthly payments. The Dacia is still miles ahead of the pack in terms of value for money.
@whatcar
@whatcar Місяць тому
We do cover that at the end of the video! 11.9% APR for that version of the C3 at the time of filming.
@Mgoblagulkablong
@Mgoblagulkablong Місяць тому
Suzuki is miles ahead of Dacia. New Swift with ZERO % APR. New Swift is much better than Sandero.
@mitchreeves1
@mitchreeves1 Місяць тому
@whatcar sorry, I do know that you mentioned it. I'm just saying that in general, few mention this. Bravo that you did! I currently have a 72 plate Dacia on 5.9%. I managed to bag that car in the nick of time! If I got the same car today it's £100pm more (my deposit was £2700).
@mitchreeves1
@mitchreeves1 Місяць тому
@Mgoblagulkablong it's not 0%, it's currently 7.9%. The same as Dacia
@janvanhaaster2093
@janvanhaaster2093 Місяць тому
Financing a car is a stupid way to get rid of your money. If you can pay XXX each month for a loan, you also could have saved it as you obviously don't need it. Cash is king, and if you don't have the money just buy a cheap 2ndhand car.
@jonathonedwards6741
@jonathonedwards6741 Місяць тому
I spent a lot of time in an aygo X last year as my Suzuki Swift Sport was in for a lot of work (service leading to seized calipers leading to clutch going, leading to someone hitting it) things I can say is it has a playful chassis, fuel economy is good regardless of what I do with the accelerator, tech was basic (just how I like it, less distractions), but it was a noticeable difference in power. I joke that the swift is slow but this was another level.
@losch78
@losch78 Місяць тому
I had the C3 as rental last summer, and was generally surprised that it felt quite a nice car. And I think it still looks sort of stylish quirky, probably the last cheap of these 3.
@runawayronnie
@runawayronnie Місяць тому
I also was given a C3 rental for the first time. Almost brand new in base trim ( Spain ). It's by far the worst car I've driven in a long time. What it did do however is get us from A to B without issue which is all I asked of it. Would never consider owning one tho.
@ianworley8169
@ianworley8169 Місяць тому
​@@runawayronnieI was made up to get one on holiday. I could not agree more. An absolute porker to drive. The worst hire car I've ever had by a mile.
@terryosborn
@terryosborn Місяць тому
Am I dreaming? A new car test that is of affordable PETROL cars with not an EV in sight, well done guys.
@tiberiupopescu238
@tiberiupopescu238 Місяць тому
Sandero with LPG directly from Dacia, don't know if available in UK, is by far away the cheapest to drive and best overall budget car in this class.
@davidspencer7254
@davidspencer7254 Місяць тому
LPG hard to find.
@saxon-mt5by
@saxon-mt5by Місяць тому
Agreed. I run a petrol/LPG car and haven't used LPG since 2019 - all the local filling stations have gone.@@davidspencer7254
@weetbix2083
@weetbix2083 Місяць тому
More useable space and airy interior, but they not very durable long term.
@LIONtib
@LIONtib Місяць тому
​@@weetbix2083Not durable? In Romania the vast majority of cars on the road are first and second gen Logans, Sanderos and Dusters. I've seen some with over 400k-500k kilometers that were still going strong despite the blatant lack of maintenance. Dacia is many things but unreliable is definitely not one of them.
@costelgigi31
@costelgigi31 Місяць тому
@@LIONtib Yeap, and most of you had 5 Dacia cars in the last 3 years. We know the mantra.🤣
@michaelsteiner5775
@michaelsteiner5775 Місяць тому
The Aygo may be the worst by comparing the obvious but if I had to choose one car for the next 300.000km or 20 years it's the only option. The others will struggle lasting as long like the Toyota. That's just the way it is and this is why they are so expensive.
@destroyedsoul1791
@destroyedsoul1791 Місяць тому
Why would anyone want to keep that POS for 20 years
@carlosgilpinheiro7510
@carlosgilpinheiro7510 Місяць тому
In your dreams.
@shroomyesc
@shroomyesc Місяць тому
I immediately noticed in the Aygo the audio quality go down, there's a tinny echo in the car probably due to less sound insulation. Theoretically, the Aygo is in a class below the other two which would explain that but the price doesn't reflect it theoretically being an A-segment vehicle rather than B.
@stepheng8779
@stepheng8779 Місяць тому
Buy an Aygo X if you've got no friends or family, are never going on holiday, doing a big shop or going to the tip, it's perfect 🎉 Dacia by a mile 👍
@geoffreyjohnson543
@geoffreyjohnson543 Місяць тому
I have an Aygo X Pure. Usually only me or me and my spouse, so rear seat room and small boot is not a problem, and seats fold for trips to the tip. It beats the Dacia on fuel economy ( 78 mpg on a recent 500 mile round trip), has all the tech you need (auto lights, lane assist, rear camera, collision avoidance, adaptive cruise control, apple carplay etc), low insurance. If I needed a bigger car I would consider the Sandero, but for my circumstances the Aygo is great.
@bondjamesbond9041
@bondjamesbond9041 Місяць тому
Not sure about finance rates but as an outright purchase a Suzuki Swift would be my choice. It has the reliability of the Toyota but is bigger inside and more practical.
@jdmguy44
@jdmguy44 Місяць тому
Agreed. I'd go for the Swift. Not much more expensive to buy than these three. Generous spec. Looks/drives very well and proven reliability. It's even built in Japan which you can't beat.
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 Місяць тому
WOW. THANK YOU for including overall ownership costs. Hardly any review ever bothers and it winds me up no end when someone says "but this one's cheaper" based on its sticker price alone. This is a perfect example of why the Citroen is cheap so long as you can't count. Having to explain it to everyone who doesn't understand TCO gets old real quick so maybe if people follow your lead and include it in reviews it will be more well known. Excellent review too. The only thing I would like to have added would be a town/suburban section since school runs and commutes are these things' bread and butter. Thanks again.
@Goriaas
@Goriaas Місяць тому
Depreciation is the biggest problem with TCO. That's why buying a car that is AT LEAST 3-4 years old is always better in terms of TCO
@siraff4461
@siraff4461 Місяць тому
@@Goriaas Almost always. There are some which can be cheaper to own from new - such as ultra rare stuff which is worth more the day you get it than you paid when you order it. You also have to factor in wear and tear items, likelyhood of a breakdown and how much value you place on warranty cover. For instance I got a Transit minibus new in 2018. It has only needed front brakes so far and because of the way the market has gone its worth more now than I payed for it when it was new. On the other hand my Kuga plug-in is now three years old and has lost roughly £18k in that time meaning that even though the Kuga does 50-60mpg regularly and the bus around 25mpg, the Kuga has cost more to own and run.
@sergioleonardo8837
@sergioleonardo8837 Місяць тому
It's amazing what people demand on cars these days. I looked around to trade my two oldies and tried both the Sandero and the C3 and honestly they where both decent but I really enjoyed driving the C3. it was more comfortable than the Dacia and I thought the interior looked better too. It seems the only thing going for the Toyota is the infotainment (God help us if someone has to drive somewhere and not have this huge TV screen to look at because they don't know where they are going...) . I'm a practical person and don't need that much tech to just drive around with my family or whatever gear i need to take.
@delacaravanio
@delacaravanio Місяць тому
Below the parcel shelf?! What a load of bollocks. The Aygo fitted four cases. The parcel shelf was what prevented the boot closing, but because of some journalistic code, or whatever, these three refused to take it out. But the thing is, it’s a hatchback and the parcel shelf is designed to be taken out. It’s not a load bearing part. Motoring journalists shouldn’t set stupid rules like “below the parcel shelf” that not only don’t apply in the real world, but make no sense in terms of how the car is intended to be used by the manufacturer. These are cheap runarounds. If you’re going on holidays with your mates, aged 22 or whatever, you will just leave the parcel shelf at home and stuff the boot.
@dutchhondarebel
@dutchhondarebel Місяць тому
For that amount of money, a decent used car. Plenty of significantly more comfy used cars.
@khalidacosta7133
@khalidacosta7133 Місяць тому
Shhhh if everyone did that, you wouldn't have a used car that is cheap to buy.... Don't buy a used car and definitely never buy a budget new car. Get a nice car that is fully loaded!
@lowfeelsblvd
@lowfeelsblvd Місяць тому
I cannot fathom why anyone would buy that Aygo X. My 21-plate Mazda 3 was less than that and has heated seats, a sunroof, a slick gearbox, 186hp and has the refinement and ride of a golf!
@johnnycarruthers9737
@johnnycarruthers9737 Місяць тому
exactly but they must have a brand new car as it comes with warranty and usually free servicing they'll also probably pcp it then give it back after 3 year at half the value for someone like myself to swoop in on a nice wee bargain for the next 10 years idiots.
@Anonymous-sb9rr
@Anonymous-sb9rr Місяць тому
Pop out rear windows, like the Aygo has, are really good for ventilation. The wind pulls air out of the cabin through these windows when you're driving, without creating the turbulence that causes booming noises, like wind down windows do.
@henryv3943
@henryv3943 Місяць тому
Great review guys. Interesting comparisons. Happy Easter.
@carl8790
@carl8790 Місяць тому
The Sandero is my choice. If the Aygo wasn't so cramped and sluggish, I wouldn't have mind paying its current asking price.
@brei21
@brei21 Місяць тому
This straightforward review of the boot capacity was refreshing to see. It's helpful to have a standard reference point, like the cabin suitcases that everyone can relate to and use for comparison. This is much more useful than just a random number for boot capacity, especially when a 30-40L difference might not actually mean room for an extra bag due to the interior shapes
@MyBacon92
@MyBacon92 Місяць тому
Some comments from the journalist about people can't "affording, bottom end of the car industry " and etc is a bit disrespectful to some people who work their asses of just to afford a new city car.
@sebastiandros1911
@sebastiandros1911 Місяць тому
I recently rented a Sandero Stepway automatic for a week and liked it, it is a good car.
@costelgigi31
@costelgigi31 Місяць тому
for one week it is reliable enough. 🤣
@sebastiandros1911
@sebastiandros1911 Місяць тому
​@@costelgigi3135k on board, it wasn't brand new. Only time will tell how reliable they are, but I don't see why not.
@RetroRoberino
@RetroRoberino Місяць тому
Always nice to see some tests like this made for people like us who don't have an unlimited amount of cash flowing out their wazoo.
@duncands9172
@duncands9172 Місяць тому
A sister of mine last summer and the summer before drove 600 miles in my mother's Volvo V70 2.5 diesel without any trouble. Year. 1997. I was recently at a bus stop and a fantastic 2008 Ford focus drove past me. Before that another fabulous looking drove past me. Year. 2000. Last summer I was at a classic car show and saw a Vw Polo. Year. 1990. A sister of mine has a 2008 Polo, and that means she could keep it for another 18 to 20 years. After seeing the Focus, I thought, search around for a really good 2010 Focus and keep it for another 10 or more years or the same with a V70. Now to an idea. Why don't the three of you buy a 2008 Polo, Focus, and V70 and take them on a 600 mile journey to see how they get on?
@petesnap1969
@petesnap1969 Місяць тому
£19K for a crappy little Toyota Aygo is "cheap"...If I had to guess the price of one i'd have said £12K max and that would still be too much.😂
@FreQ135
@FreQ135 Місяць тому
Hooray, relevant content! As costs have spiraled in recent years, cheap cars are more important than ever.
@DougHolmes
@DougHolmes Місяць тому
Surely getting a good second-hand car would be a better bet
@mitchreeves1
@mitchreeves1 Місяць тому
Used car finance rates are insane. You may as well buy new if you want a newer vehicle.
@davidspencer7254
@davidspencer7254 Місяць тому
You can always make that argument. But used cars have less warranty (whats covered degrades year on year) if any at all, you don't know the wear and tear and most importantly come with more expensive part replacement costs when stuff goes wrong.
@johnnycarruthers9737
@johnnycarruthers9737 Місяць тому
@@davidspencer7254 depends who you know for getting things fixed
@johnnycarruthers9737
@johnnycarruthers9737 Місяць тому
@@mitchreeves1 why finance just get a bank loan and pay them back instead.
@mitchreeves1
@mitchreeves1 Місяць тому
@johnnycarruthers9737 even so, interest rates are still high. Most people find it much harder to get a bank loan than finance.
@Twin.motors
@Twin.motors Місяць тому
Awsome comparison. MUCH better than carwow's rare 5mil supercar vs 3 mil supercar comparisons.
@RJ.83
@RJ.83 Місяць тому
I got 2023 Sandero stepway journey bifuel full spec , I paid £17000 I am really happy with it probably I would keep it for over 10 years
@detmer87
@detmer87 Місяць тому
Easy win for the Dacia🎉
@peter.russell
@peter.russell Місяць тому
Nice one. Well done, getting there and very interesting to watch so thank you :-)
@jandoerlidoe3412
@jandoerlidoe3412 Місяць тому
I would choose the Sandero trough... ( I now have Dacia Logan MCV )
@PahaLukki
@PahaLukki Місяць тому
Who needs automatic headlights, rain sensing wipers or reverse cameras? It is just useless gimmicks. Air conditioning, maybe central locking.. not even that is important. You just need A/C for hot days. The less items there are, the less they break.
@thomasp818
@thomasp818 27 днів тому
About the infotainment system. It's quite unfair to not take the screen for the Citroën while you take it for Sandero which obviously on the entry level of the Sandero you don't even have a screen.
@vrku9979
@vrku9979 Місяць тому
My winner is Dacia Sandero with LPG. I try Logan and its really comfy! Way better than my Skoda Rapid. It has turbo lag and slower response than TSI by VW but it runs on LPG so its really cheap. And stepway trim looks good.
@pixie706
@pixie706 Місяць тому
As a mere female I've never ever taken any notice of interior decor . performance and comfort are priorities in car selection.
@HugoParedes
@HugoParedes Місяць тому
I’m curious, what do you prioritise? Price?
@pixie706
@pixie706 Місяць тому
@@HugoParedes read my comment
@RetroRoberino
@RetroRoberino Місяць тому
I feel like the C3 has been done a bit dirty here. The C3 is meant to be a slushbox and a comfy, soft car. Does it not deliver on that? I hate hard seats and stiff suspensions unless I am in a sports car.
@Barnaby_bo
@Barnaby_bo 25 днів тому
One of lifes mysteries. Why do all car manufacturers make their small cars shit. Just because i might want a small car doesnt necessarily mean i want the cheapest car. I might want a small car with high quality fittings, decent engine, stereo etc. Just in a small package for convenience. Every small car ive been in, especially over the last 20 years has been very poor in fixtures, fittings, build quality and engineering.
@morph-jh9iy
@morph-jh9iy 28 днів тому
Not to forget - the Aygo X has the worst seats (wavy after a short period of use) and also the worst paintwork. Even small stone chips are immediately visible after a short time. My choice would be the Citroen, because the breakdown statistics have shown that this French model is one of the most reliable and can keep up with Toyota.
@user-nb5nm4ol8p
@user-nb5nm4ol8p Місяць тому
I choose AygoX, C3 with 1.2 puretech engine is zero reliability and Dacia Sandero less comfortable than both
@martinwood9014
@martinwood9014 Місяць тому
Got to be Sandero all day
@jmandameloya
@jmandameloya Місяць тому
Did you add the extra maintenance cost of the wet belt of the C3? Tis makes the C3 a bad purchase, on top of everything said
@tomazikov
@tomazikov Місяць тому
Well while I like all three I will stick to mine which is a preface lifted Sandero but if I bought it today I would have the one that you drove with expression trim with auto AC which costs just below 16 grand in our country and I am very happy and satisfied with mine
@hoderharris
@hoderharris Місяць тому
Brilliant comparison. As American who frequently travels to Europe for my job, i am always envious of the sub compact options you guys have vs what is sold in the States...
@LIONtib
@LIONtib Місяць тому
Why? At least you guys have the roads to accommodate huge 7 seaters and pick ups, even if you don't really need all that space.
@poppyneese1811
@poppyneese1811 Місяць тому
Dacia for me, dang you James May👊 I wish we could get the Dacia here in the States. The Citroen looks really good from the rear, a lil to much going on in the front. I know the Toyota would be the best, but being of Scottish Heritage I root against the leader always.
@martinwood9014
@martinwood9014 Місяць тому
Glad you have more cheaper car comparison vids coming up
@vinnyanthony23
@vinnyanthony23 Місяць тому
I bought our 17 plate C3 in 2018 and since then it hasn't cost us a thing bar normal maintenance. Been a brilliant little runaround car.
@gugugh10
@gugugh10 Місяць тому
I'm really glad that you did this comparative test! Very good!!! I was undecided in choosing between Dacia and Citroen! Thank you! And to more clips and presentations of budget cars!
@JVerschueren
@JVerschueren Місяць тому
13:15 Dacia hack: use a ziptie to make a loop at the passenger side winshield air vent and run your USB chord through there to keep it out of the way. A friend of mine does that in her... oh, what are they called again now.... Dokker! This trick can be applied in other cars as well, of course, as long as you refer to it properly.
@sirbum1918
@sirbum1918 26 днів тому
I have a sneaky suspicion that the cheapens car in a model range doesn't actually exist.
@philipsutton5652
@philipsutton5652 Місяць тому
Was not expecting to see my hometown of 30 years when the video popped up.
@exileatsushi7165
@exileatsushi7165 Місяць тому
I don't often comment (sorry fot that), but I love this video concept, plus other big channels (yes I am looking at you, "automobilewaw") didn't even think about this. I hope we will get more of this! PS: those You! and SUV jokes never get old 😁
@philipcrossley1279
@philipcrossley1279 Місяць тому
You should have tried driving south, out of Whitby with 3 adult passengers and four fully loaded suitcases and counting how mamy times you got out of first gear before you got onto a level stretch of road.
@stevep1351
@stevep1351 7 днів тому
"Big luxury SUVs are very nice, but a lot of people can't afford them." Instead, what about "... but a lot of people don't want one."
@GrahamGroovyUK
@GrahamGroovyUK 4 дні тому
I would consider a pre reg MG ZS. Seen those just over £15k. Saw a Suzuki SX4 S-Cross with 3k on it and only 7 months old for £17k. I see the 2022 early Sandero present shape around £8k now and feel that is a decent buy.
@weetbix2083
@weetbix2083 Місяць тому
Long term ownership the C3 and Sandero are good for 100k miles where as the Aygo will be good for 200-250k miles.
@marksouthwell4490
@marksouthwell4490 Місяць тому
Are you thinking of the previous generation Aygos
@tjadventures
@tjadventures Місяць тому
My father in law has a lpg Dacia Sandero stepway. The car is pretty nice looking inside and out and the engine is quite peppy. Because it’s optimized for lpg it has 100hp. He did have a fair amount of weird electronic fault warnings in his 2-3 years of ownership but it seems to be holding up pretty good. Although I believe Toyota is still one of the best companies out there, I don’t think the comparison in your video is quite right. The aygo is, in my opinion, a class smaller than the other two, I believe the Yaris is in the same class as the sandero, but I I enjoyed the video and I like how you accounted for so many factors!
@augustinmarginean
@augustinmarginean Місяць тому
Agreed somewhat with the verdict, however, the elephant in the room is the fact Toyota is so damn slow and gutless. On long term that will definitely be frustrating for the owner. The small turbo engine's can be so fun to daily drive because of the mid range punch. For me that will make the difference.
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 Місяць тому
The real elephant in the room is that the Toyota is near-enough a 2 seater with negligible boot space! Might as well have an MG Midget.
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 6 днів тому
Used to buy What Car? magazine back in the late 1980s. Back then the budget car road tests used to feature the FSO Polonez, Lada Riva, Skoda Estelle, Yugo 45a and the Citroen 2CV6. For a little more decadence there would be a Hyundai Pony. List prices of those would be around the £3,500 - 5,000 mark.
@GrahamGroovyUK
@GrahamGroovyUK 4 дні тому
Then in 1989 the £5995 Proton GL saloon arrived. Not much of a looker but so reliable and easy to drive. We need cars like this again. For the Sandero to go from £6k before C-Vid to £14k is crazy. A pre reg Clio is cheaper.
@jakuborlik1511
@jakuborlik1511 Місяць тому
Why nobody talks about the ergonomics of modern cars. Cars are getting bigger outside but from a driver perspective they are the same or even worse. I.e getting into modern Dacia/Renault? Don’t know how they did it but these cars are made in a way that there is no place for left knee and you cannot get in without hitting your head on the roof. It is not limited to Renault products, other automakers are not better. Toyota Corolla is the same with enormous center console.
@darklightedy
@darklightedy 27 днів тому
A car that is ridiculously slow, with an unusable back seat, and the smallest luggage compartment was voted the best? I don't understand something.
@googler38
@googler38 Місяць тому
I've jumped from being a Toyota owner to a Dacia owner. Will cost me half the price over 10 years. Have a stepway and a duster. Toyota main dealer services are extortionate.
@detmer87
@detmer87 Місяць тому
Toyota shouldn't be on this list. Suzuki Swift would make more sense.
@matejsojka6683
@matejsojka6683 Місяць тому
did you calculate lpg runing costs in bifuel dacia?
@chrisoncars4879
@chrisoncars4879 Місяць тому
I bought a new Aygo X last year, and I did consider the others. But as it's often just me in the car for commuting, space wasn't really an issue. The Aygo maybe slightly slower, but those C3 82hp Puretechs are pretty gutless and rev at 4,000rpm at 70mph, they also have a wet timing belt, which is known to cause problems. The Dacia has a very cheap and uninspiring interior and reliability of those newer shape 1.0s is questionable. Many have had problems, I've seen one needing a new timing chain within the first few months and another that caught fire in the same time! The Toyota Aygo X I has a proven reliable engine, they're great in fuel, cheap on PCP and up to a 10 year warranty if you keep it Toyota serviced. As a commuter car, it comes out on top for me. Plus it has things the other cars don't, like adaptive cruise control standard on all models. I use my Aygo X for commuting, but also longer trips (I'm currently in France with it, from the UK) and it's still capable. I like the seat comfort and the economy.
@mrmrmrcaf7801
@mrmrmrcaf7801 Місяць тому
That 1.0 is not new...it is a very good engine
@akaski777
@akaski777 Місяць тому
My 07 Auris still running great
@user-hf7jp2lt5x
@user-hf7jp2lt5x 28 днів тому
Worth checking if any have wet cam belts. A couple of these in the life of the car will add thousands to the running costs.
@davewhittles
@davewhittles Місяць тому
the toyota for me it looks the best and will hold value better than the other two
@megapangolin1093
@megapangolin1093 Місяць тому
Good video, very informative and packed with information and data. Not sure that plastic dashboards are really an issue at the budget end of the market, a bad seat though definitely is. Easily the Dacia for anyone that does any mixed driving. Why do all these tests end up being done with a high end trim? As you can see from the comments, many people are saying that these prices are too high, so more sacrifices are needed on kit because the most important thing is that it has to be a mobile personal box before anything else, that is what many, many people need. Be interesting to test a mix of EV/ICE "cheap" cars on a similar route, (not that I would touch a small EV at this point in their development curve).
@tectoramia-sz1lu
@tectoramia-sz1lu Місяць тому
Toyota every time for me. Get it serviced at a Toyota dealer and get a year's warranty until it's 10yrs old or has done 100,000 miles.
@GeorgeJarrett1
@GeorgeJarrett1 Місяць тому
Hang on. The Higher Spec Citroens have a 110 Turbo Petrol in Manual, and an Auto that would blow the other 2 away and a leather streeing wheel. I agree those plastic ones are vile. You can also get a Reverse Camera, Built in Connected Nav and parking sensors. You can also get the armresm like the Dacia on the drivers seat😊
@callumC94
@callumC94 Місяць тому
Yeah, I feel they did the Citroen dirty here by testing entry level vs highest spec of the other 2 cars... I personnally have a mid spec because it was the cheapest car I could finance (in France) and the only things I don't like about it are fuel economy for city driving (110 turbo petron) and the steering wheel.
@Vwguy-jf9vj
@Vwguy-jf9vj Місяць тому
20k for a Toyota aygo? Christ, I bet you could get a 3 year old one with 5k on the clock for about 10k or less
@razvanyke
@razvanyke Місяць тому
Very cool video, guys ! Well done
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 Місяць тому
For the money and excellent comfort, I would highly recommend the Citroën C4. I own a full electric E-C4 and I know that you can buy a 1 year old E-C4 for the cost of any of these. The massive plus on the E-C4 is the quality suspension and seating.
@chrishart8548
@chrishart8548 Місяць тому
You can get a vauxhall mokka E for even less loads for £11k could've believe it untill i looked .
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 Місяць тому
Just don't try to make a journey to somewhere 200 miles away...
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 Місяць тому
@hunchanchoc8418 Shame you didn't tell me that months ago....!! Every trip to my head office is over 200 miles... I drive like any other car... steady 80mph very early in the morning. Stop for a 20min top up and go! Arriving between 6:30 and 7am... So WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL.??? Are you going to say I can't make it?
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 Місяць тому
@@mikadavies660 How much range do you have left when you reach the office? I presume the charger you use en-route is a fast-charger? And you are able to recharge while you're parked at the office? And as you state, you are driving in the dead of night, so charging stations at services are not likely to be busy. Great! For that journey all the stars are aligned and it works out just dandy!
@mikadavies660
@mikadavies660 Місяць тому
@hunchanchoc8418 I'm in Construction. We always start early. I has around 20 to 30 miles left and my boss is a dinosaur. No chargers at the office. But one about 3 miles away.
@henrikemppainen2511
@henrikemppainen2511 Місяць тому
Oof, the price of cars has gotten obscene. I think they look pretty bad too. At least early-mid 2000s econo boxes were just boring looking; these new ones I find straight up ugly. The SUV craze doesn't help one bit. Small ugly vehicle, for way too much $$$. Guess I'll just keep driving my rusty old honda for a while longer..
@clubbi911
@clubbi911 Місяць тому
I like the C3 Origin ❤ Comfy, roomy, quirky 👍🏼
@vladutumircea6072
@vladutumircea6072 Місяць тому
Thank's guys! That's a realistic report; otherwise everyone choose his car on budget and preferences... For me Dacia will be the right choice.
@franciscovaz9378
@franciscovaz9378 Місяць тому
If you have only on car and a family of 4 how does it be possible to go for the toyota? The toyota is cheap to run? Put in side by side with the dacia lpg and compare it....
@michaelbacon561
@michaelbacon561 Місяць тому
Interesting to note that these three "small" cars did a very good job of filling nearly the whole width of the parking spaces at the beginning! Not a lot of room left to open the doors.
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