What the noise blanker does in your radio and why yours probably isn't broken.

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MikesRadioRepair

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@nickjones8702
@nickjones8702 7 місяців тому
Best Radio repair man, fine my Styker955 alignment right !!! Thank you Mike! 😊
@frankstern4841
@frankstern4841 5 років тому
Why is the receiver in this radio so noisy without the antenna connected to it?
@misterhat5823
@misterhat5823 5 років тому
The gain is the highest with no signal and it's amplifying its own noise.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
As Mister Hat said with no incoming signal the AGC circuit is going to have all the stages turned up to maximum. Once a signal is received the gain of the stages is lowered. The higher the incoming signal the less gain there is. Also the volume was turned up really high at several points in this video, up the whole way in some parts.
@raunchyNO
@raunchyNO 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair there are scientists that say that you actually hear the big bang and the residual noise from that moment.
@frankstern4841
@frankstern4841 5 років тому
I despise radios with a noisy receiver alignment. Thank your for your answer.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Yes, it's called the CMB or CMBR for cosmic microwave background radiation. Was discovered by Penzias and Wilson of Bell labs in the mid 1960's.
@tamtgirl
@tamtgirl 5 років тому
FYI, the high voltage lead from the coil does NOT go to the points. the points send the impulse to fire the coil
@user-su5sq5ib3i
@user-su5sq5ib3i 5 років тому
Thanks for the explanation Mike
@Darrell_Coquillette
@Darrell_Coquillette 5 років тому
You did a great job explaining that Mike! Tnx
@injoelsgarage3934
@injoelsgarage3934 5 років тому
Mike thank you for your time and sharing with us, great explanation of the noise blanker. Joel
@kriptyn56
@kriptyn56 5 років тому
Aloha Mike, love ur videos just wanna say thanks for sharing ur knowledge...
@ComputerLearning0
@ComputerLearning0 Рік тому
Excellent video explaining a really great feature and why you might hear a difference when using it versus not hearing any difference at all. You're the best, Mike.
@walterathow5988
@walterathow5988 5 років тому
always like your videos
@jacob2483
@jacob2483 Рік тому
Thank you for your knowledge, excellent video!
@Stover159
@Stover159 5 років тому
thanks mike. love your videos and love these little quick and to the point videos explaining things. i kniw myself and others would love for you to explain how and why every function/circuit in a radio works...thanks keep up the good work.....
@royd.9609
@royd.9609 5 років тому
Very informative!
@travistabuas5706
@travistabuas5706 5 років тому
Great video I will be sending you couple three radios for repairs in a couple of weeks
@porongoscasantero8768
@porongoscasantero8768 Рік тому
Excellent radios audio wise to
@eddieslittlestack7919
@eddieslittlestack7919 2 роки тому
Studying for my tech. ham radio license, this was helpful. Thank you. Thumbs up sir!
@peternewman958
@peternewman958 5 років тому
Great video Mike, your not the only person who gets asked that question about the Noise Blanker!!!! It’s probably the number 1 thing people ask me also. Very good explanation and now I don’t have to explain it any more they can just watch your video mate!!!!
@73superglide62
@73superglide62 5 років тому
Great info
@BoB4jjjjs
@BoB4jjjjs 4 роки тому
That was spot on in what a noise blanker does and I think everyone has has a car go past a TV with the noise interference and even the clicks affecting the picture. The demo at the end showed what it does perfectly.
@timmygilbert1371
@timmygilbert1371 3 роки тому
Great video Mike , i consider myself fairly decent on cb knowledge but had no idea how the NB actually works and is meant for .
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 5 років тому
When the points are closed, they completes a circuit that applies power (12 volts) to the primary of the ignition coil. When the cam on the distributor opens the points (the condenser helps protect the points from some of the arc) the magnetic field in the ignition coil collapses through the secondary which creates a high voltage. The high voltage goes from the coil through the high voltage wire to the middle of the cap located on the distributor. The rotor directs the high voltage to whichever plug is supposed to fire next. The rotor only has physical contact with a cap in the middle. There is a small gap between the end of the rotor and the cap, that is where ignition noise is created.
@rickvia8435
@rickvia8435 2 роки тому
Yep, any spark-noise from the spark plug is contained (shielded) by the cylinder head and engine block. The distributor cap is where most of the impulse noise escapes. Resistor wires limit the current flowing between the gap of the rotor button and the distributor cap electrodes.
@swingdaddy2126
@swingdaddy2126 5 років тому
i like the honesty. would be very easy to just say yea it was broken and make money. kind of hard to find now days. if i ever need something repaired and cant do it myself i know where to send it cause i know my money is being well spent. keep up the good work mike.....
@allthegearnoidea6752
@allthegearnoidea6752 5 років тому
Interesting bit of test gear. Never seen that type of test before. Great video Mike. PS stinking of gear oil!
@thestonerguy5276
@thestonerguy5276 5 років тому
Nice explanation and video! I don't know if you've worked on the old Alinco DX-70 at some point, but I owned several during it's run and while they had a great display and xmit audio, the NB sucked. Not only would it not tackle ignition noise, but when turned ON, it actually injected a lot of noise of it's own into the receiver, making it a terrible choice for mobile operation.
@k.c.lejeune6613
@k.c.lejeune6613 5 років тому
You little box creates sounds like when astronomers convert the "pulses" of Pulsars in space into sound, specifically millisecond Pulsars.
@danz1910
@danz1910 3 роки тому
thanks
@rickvia8435
@rickvia8435 2 роки тому
Yep - the NB circuit basically "blanks" out the receiver for the period of a short-duration impulse spike. They taught me that the "background noise" heard in an unsquelched AM/ SSB receiver was actually "thermal noise" created when any electrical circuit is active. With no antenna connected, each stage of the receiver introduces thermal noise into the signal chain and processes this as a "signal": It (1) amplifies it - RF stage, (2) mixes it (the mixer also gets thermal noise from the IF stage), (3) detects it and (4) the audio stages amplify it into the noise heard in the speaker.
@la7dfa
@la7dfa 5 років тому
Noise blankers should be adjustable for best control. In my TS-590S I have timing control for NB1, NB2 or both. They are all useful for various kind of noise. In my case its mostly static noise during hail and winter storms.
@renegadebt1374
@renegadebt1374 5 років тому
My NB stops my neighbors electric fence from coming through..
@davidmartin123
@davidmartin123 3 роки тому
The noise blanker in my ICOM 746 isn't broken - it just doesn't work very well. Pressing the NB button doesn't eliminate the transmission line spark-gap type noise that's cropped up in my neighborhood recently. It instead chops up the signal and reduces the noise only slightly. But the noise blanker algorithms in newer radios and even in the cheap SDRs running SDR# or SDRUno software (with adjustable NB thresholds) work great to eliminate that same transmission line noise completely.
@MM0IMC
@MM0IMC Рік тому
I found that the noise blanker circuits in these CB or "10m" radios don't work on SSB. Whereas on my HF radio, it works great.
@johncundiss9098
@johncundiss9098 5 років тому
QUESTION ! ! ! Got a Rigol4102 signal generator with noise generator, this noise is not blanked, I suspect this noise is not the "right type" of noise? Have had trouble doing alignment on radios. Have restored a ts-530, ts-940s, and an ft-980. Show us how to make the box? The ts-940s works. the ft-980 works but has a "slow to recover" type action to it. P.S. Use ds-815 spectrum analyzer, MSO 4000 scope, dm3068 DMM. Seeking a better stand alone frequency counter and seeking a way to do SINAD measurements, homebrew of sorts perhaps. Ugg, more equipment to get/build. Actual RF sg gen wanted as well. Sorry for the rant. 73's.
@jackofalltrades1206
@jackofalltrades1206 Рік тому
Great explanation as usual.. I actually understood what the NB was supposed to do before watching but I have never understood one thing about the NB, maybe you can help. Given the fact the NB is switchable on most front panels suggests it’s not desirable to have it on when not required, so what is the down side to having the NB on? Does it desensitise the RXer due to it being switched off, all be it momentarily?
@ovidiuovidius
@ovidiuovidius 5 років тому
NB & ANL is very very important for cb radio
@MickeyD2012
@MickeyD2012 5 років тому
CB operators like ANL? Figures.
@justinruth9729
@justinruth9729 10 місяців тому
Notch ..filtwr for pulses ...it's mainly for mobil applications...
@adammeece3678
@adammeece3678 5 років тому
I need to know how to get you to possibly rebuild a couple Cobra 2000 GTLs for me. Im new to the CB world and am excited to learn all this stuff!!
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Just add @gmail.com to my UKposts user ID to email me.
@W-733_KWX
@W-733_KWX 5 років тому
Stryker's supposed to have a better NB compared to the other nowadays "10m" rigs, do you agree Mike ? This one seems to work darn well !
@mikeevans4691
@mikeevans4691 5 років тому
Hi. How would I get in touch with u to be able to send u a radio for refurbish. Thanks for your time.
@bossman-91
@bossman-91 5 років тому
how much do you charge to fix i got a cobra gtl 2000 i need worked on
@michaelcasson5789
@michaelcasson5789 5 років тому
I have a tram d201a and a golden eagle 4a that needs work... wandering how long before you will be able to work on my radio?
@billybassman21
@billybassman21 4 роки тому
Why do you get more bleed over on some Cobra radios when the noise blanker is on?
@antoniosherryalmeida1505
@antoniosherryalmeida1505 3 роки тому
Hi, I have Cobra 2000 GTL I would like to get a Channel King board install. Would you have time to do it ? what would it cost and how much time would it take? Please let me know .Thanks
@burmanspangler9393
@burmanspangler9393 5 років тому
Hi, How can I get in touch with you ?
@k9usa149
@k9usa149 5 років тому
any one know how to get a hold of Mike to do work on radios? Never get an answer from him via e mail?
@466htrd
@466htrd 3 роки тому
Do you have any videos on how to block LED light cb interference? I have LED signals and brake lights. I can hear them in my Cb when the turn signals are flashing, and the brake lights are applied.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 3 роки тому
Honestly I have never heard of automotive LED lights causing noise in a radio. The noise is usually with 120V AC house lights. They use a switch mode power supply which is very noisy. I suspect your light's may have a buck converter to reduce the voltage or more correctly a constant current supply to the LED's. Only a guess however since I have never run into this myself. Two things I would suggest. Make sure the radio is grounded, not the power cord ground but make sure the radio chassis/cabinet is grounded. Second you might try a DC power cord inline filter. I suspect the noise may be getting into the radio through the power wires. Powerwerx makes a nice heavy duty power line filter. powerwerx.com/dc-line-noise-filter-oemt
@squireca
@squireca 5 років тому
Have a question I'm hoping someone here can answer. I purchased a Dynascan Cobra 29 23 channel cb I am hoping to restore. I got the sams photofact cb-56 for this radio but am A bit confused about the electrolytic capacitor list. For some of them there are two different values shown, such as c46 10mf at 16v and 10mf 10v. Another is c51 1mf at 50v ans 1mf at 16v. There are several like this listed. Should I just go with the higher v caps? Thanks for any replies.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
When in doubt go with the higher voltage.
@graziannycarvalho8091
@graziannycarvalho8091 2 роки тому
OLA AMIGO VOCE TEM O ESQUEMA DESSE CIRCUITO DA CAIXA QUE GERA O RUÍDO.... GRATO
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 2 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/f3JejKutqKtomXU.html Correction to the schematic. Pin 7 needs to be attached to ground.
@Tomahawk-415
@Tomahawk-415 5 років тому
Hey Mike I'm putting up a 40-foot Tower at my house with a 24-foot solarcon IMAX 2000 on it what would be the best coax to use, about 75 ft will be needed, cb band thanks
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
The best coax for any application is the best you can afford. The higher the quality of the coax the more it cost. You can get crazy and spend thousands of dollars on large diameter premium hard line or use something more reasonable like LMR240 or LMR400.
@thecodfather4425
@thecodfather4425 10 місяців тому
its the hicut that cuts down the hiss.
@quaildogusa
@quaildogusa 8 місяців тому
I have a 2020 Dodge Ram Hemi and I'm getting ignition noise. I'm thinking it's spark plug noise.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 8 місяців тому
Probably not the type of ignition noise you are thinking about. You probably don't have spark plug wires. Most vehicles these days have coil on plug packs, there is no spark plug wire in most cases. There is however a bunch of other electronics in modern vehicles that cause interference on HF. Proper grounding, connection directly to the battery and judicious application of ferrite cores/beads to power and coax cables can greatly attenuate this interference.
@quaildogusa
@quaildogusa 8 місяців тому
@@mikesradiorepair Thanks for the reply. I do have the power grounded to the battery terminal. Someone suggested that I should move it off the terminal to the chassis ground.
@alanwilson2201
@alanwilson2201 5 років тому
Are their any radios on the market that are AM only with variable talkback and echo? I’m not interested in sideband or anything extra. I’m looking for a box stock AM radio with variable talkback and echo that I can order or pick up locally......
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Honestly I'm not the right person to ask about that. I don't sell radios, I only do repairs. The best people to ask about something like that would be a shop that sells radios. They are going to have a better idea of what is currently available that would meet your requirements.
@alanwilson2201
@alanwilson2201 5 років тому
In your opinion is there a particular radio that can handle the shock and vibrations of being in a dump truck?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Any modern radio that uses surface mount components is going to be more resistant to damage from shock and vibration. One of the biggest problems in high vibration environments is bad solder joints. Older through hole design boards are more susceptible to solder joint failure because the parts are hanging off the board by their wire leads. Surface mount parts have no wire leads, they are soldered directly to the surface of the circuit board.
@skinny-peters-JR.
@skinny-peters-JR. 4 роки тому
What's the difference from 500 ohms. to. 1000ohms. .mics? ??.. mike from minnesota. ....question. . 5watt. dead key. to much.??? 20 watt peak swing to much..???? on midland 5001z. radio. ...
@Tomahawk-415
@Tomahawk-415 5 років тому
I meant like rg8u? or 213u? or in general what is the best for the cb band 75' to 100' run
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
As I said before the best cable is the best you can afford. In general the more it cost the higher the quality .
@paulb.131
@paulb.131 5 років тому
Mike..is there any way to get in touch with you?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Just add @gmail.com to my youtube user ID.
@porongoscasantero8768
@porongoscasantero8768 Рік тому
Bearcat and 148 can make the same audio
@robschlotterbeck2566
@robschlotterbeck2566 5 років тому
Can you find the circuit diagram on line??
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Honestly I'm not sure. I'll make a quickie video later this evening showing how to build one. Might not get uploaded until tomorrow.
@robschlotterbeck2566
@robschlotterbeck2566 5 років тому
That would be great Mike!
@robschlotterbeck2566
@robschlotterbeck2566 5 років тому
I’m working in Gettysburg PA until tomorrow then I’m driving back home to Indiana for surgery Tuesday. I can spend some recovery time with a bread board Wednesday. I assume that the heart of the device is a 555?
@mbutts1139
@mbutts1139 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair That is something I don't have for my bench, that would be awesome
@lesjones7019
@lesjones7019 2 роки тому
Buy a new radio.
@mathewkromeo2934
@mathewkromeo2934 5 років тому
Hello. I am looking at a never used Royce 604 in box from 1977. I don't know much about Royce. Good radios? Very clean. $50. I have a brand new Cobra 25 LTD Classic, mic mounted on the front, China made. I bought the Cobra rather impulsively but wanted something vintage. Was Royce a good brand?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Royce was a good manufacturer. They did things a little different than many other manufacturers. The 604 is a good example. It has what I would call a "one chip wonder". Most of the receive circuit to include RF Amps, mixers and IF stages are all done on a single IC.
@mathewkromeo2934
@mathewkromeo2934 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair Thank you so much!
@theflyingscotsman9902
@theflyingscotsman9902 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair Hi , I have a Whistler 900 that was working and quit a few months ago . Sent it to a local cb guy and it is now dead ! Just lights up ! No audio and no transmit ! I dont know what he did but he offered me another radio for free because it quit while he had it ! Fair enough , but I miss my neat Whistler 900 ! Could you have a look at it ?
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 5 років тому
Can I assume a square wave generator will work?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
No, it needs to have a very fast rise time and be a very short duration pulse. I'll make another video this evening with a schematic and demonstration of the circuit. Might be tomorrow until it gets uploaded.
@bblod4896
@bblod4896 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair Thank you very much sir and have a great evening.
@GNRFreak69
@GNRFreak69 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair Awesome video. Looking forward to the schematic.
@jordanhowell3870
@jordanhowell3870 9 місяців тому
Yeah but you will still hear it right if somebody talking is coming in right?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 9 місяців тому
No, it works on fast rise time pulses. It will still blank the sound if a pulse triggers the circuit while someone is talking but you will never hear it. The amount of time the audio is "blanked" or muted is so short our brain can not hear it. Same effect as a flashing light. Flash a light fast enough and we can not tell it's flashing, it looks like a light that is on continuously but it can be turning on and off 30 or less times a second. Our brains are VERY slow.
@jordanhowell3870
@jordanhowell3870 9 місяців тому
@@mikesradiorepair thanxx man !
@JamesJohnson-ny3xz
@JamesJohnson-ny3xz 5 років тому
Cap It.
@davidcarter9322
@davidcarter9322 5 років тому
My uniden pro 538w picks up all the car electrical noise. It doesn't have a NB or ANL switch so I use the squelch and RF gain to tune it out. Unfortunately that makes for lousy RX sensitivity.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
If it's a modern car join the party. All the noise from the vehicle computers is horrible in some of my newer vehicles. I installed a Powerwerx line filter in those vehicles and it pretty much eliminated it. powerwerx.com/dc-line-noise-filter-powerpole-connectors
@KeiranR
@KeiranR Рік тому
you know it works when you get that type of noise...
@casemcdonald2152
@casemcdonald2152 3 роки тому
You're mistaken about the brain not being fast enough. What's really happening is, the brain it's so sophisticated that it can compensate. Just saying.
@retekessradioamazon6255
@retekessradioamazon6255 5 років тому
Hi MikesRadioRepair ,I have send you the email,please check, and give us a reply,thanks so much. PR15 radio
@jizomeovonsteelwind
@jizomeovonsteelwind 5 років тому
Now if I can only get rid of the engine whine that comes through my speaker, I'd be doing much better....
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Are you sure it's engine noise? In modern vehicles it's not engine noise but electronic noise generated by the vehicles electronic systems that create a lot of the noise. If the noise doesn't change with engine speed then it's not engine noise. I have a fairly new car here that it took me a good bit of fiddling with to finally get rid of all of the electronic noise generated by vehicle computer systems.
@jizomeovonsteelwind
@jizomeovonsteelwind 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair Thanks for the reply. It's an 88 pickup with older internals. I swapped out all of the "newer" in favor of an older setup with carb and HEI distributor. It does change with engine RPM, the high pitch whine gets louder as I hit the accelerator. When I'm driving it's almost impossible to hear above it. At idle, it's still annoying, but bearable.
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
Make sure everything has a good ground. You can also try sticking a filter on the power cord. These help in some applications.
@jizomeovonsteelwind
@jizomeovonsteelwind 5 років тому
@@mikesradiorepair I have everything grounded with star washers a plenty, but I'll double check everything. Do you have a filter you'd recommend?
@mikesradiorepair
@mikesradiorepair 5 років тому
@@jizomeovonsteelwind powerwerx.com/dc-line-noise-filter-oemt?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIy8W_9ZbG4AIVwSNpCh0M1QJ_EAQYBSABEgJ7-vD_BwE
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