I understand the kids not grasping the gravity of the situation but the parents?? No way, they should’ve gone to the principal and the police. Despicable.

It's always just so easy to ignore red flags in a sea of red flags. I worked in special education for years (5 with kids) and the amount of stuff that would have been absolute red flags was impossible to fully track. It was really hard to tell if someone was "just vying for attention," or if they really needed to be taken seriously. We kept track of details to look for changes. The parents were often so thrown off by having to help support their own child that they also couldn't really read red flags from their children's friends. It's such a hard call. I do think child services need to be boosted. It destroyed me every time we'd have a huge report about a child coming in with signs of physical abuse daily only to learn that the younger kids were removed from the house but not the abused older child. And schools too. They'll often just shuffle kids out or in without checking much.

What would you expect them to have done exactly? It's not illegal for a kid to make a list of names!

Honestly though what would've happened if they did take it to the police? Maybe the 2 murderers would've gotten a 'talking to' and that's all. No one else would've been told and they might have been postponed but unless these violent predators are immediately dealt with then it changes nothing. They immediately deal with nonviolent drug users? Why not violent predators? And we can tell the difference between a person saying they'd like to murder someone in exasperation and someone making a kill list for goodness sakes! Idk just my rant.

@@FlameFlickers It was a kill list ! But it seems like you are as clueless!

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@@KyleHilton-qh6nr he 🤡

@@KyleHilton-qh6nr troll.

This is the most rare kind of murder....luckily. Very unlikely to happen to your kid, or even in your town. Its also the most disturbing kind.

@@Scorch428 I think you may have missed OP’s point…

Welp based on where this happened they will get released. They just don't like to believe in natural life over there or death penalties

@@alexandersalazar9750 I don’t know how they can ever convince anyone that they aren’t a danger to society. The girl especially.

@@alexandersalazar9750 you’ve completely misunderstood our sentencing laws. ​​ It is unlikely they will ever be released. “At His Majesty’s pleasure” means imprisoned indefinitely. They may be eligible for parole but they will never be truly free, they will be watched and monitored and have limitations for the rest of their lives, however long or short. And the death penalty is a barbaric practice. I’m glad we don’t have it.

I'm very sorry for your poor daughter and for you. I lost my husband in August and the grief is just overwhelming your whole life is turned upside down I loved him with everything I had to love him however I have a 9 year old daughter and I think that would be the only thing worse that could happen. Having to watch my husbands mum shatter to pieces I knew her pain was on a different level. There is nothing that can compare. I am truly sorry for you and all those affected by your loss.

@@50shadesofgray I think when someone dies before their time it is heartbreaking and I send my love to you and your daughter. It has been 14 years the end of this month since my daughter passed, I think of her every day. Thankyou for your kind message, I wish you both well in everything that your lives bring to you in the futurexx

My sincere condolences. If only more people had as much compassion and empathy as you

@susangarvey9415 I am so sorry for the loss of your precious daughter. And, in my opinion, there is absolutely nothing wrong with not forgiving her murderer. Sure, let go of the rage and the hate, but forgive? Absolutely weird to do so, in my opinion. May you find peace, and comfort, too.

@@susangarvey9415 Before my husband passed I never really understood how you could think of someone every day, but now I understand it's every second of every minute of every day. It's more of a feeling than a thought. It's a new version of myself that just feels the loss. I said to my mum, I won't ever get better, I will just get better at pretending to be OK. Thank you also for your kind words.

CAN YOU DO THIS STEPHEN?!

Whoa yes he does! Now I can’t unsee it

Soon as I started reading your comment I knew who you were talking about.

WHY, STIVEN, WHY? I gotta check my pictures and talk to my friend, Schmeeda... 😂

I thought the same thing!!! the guy who choked up on live TV when he heard they found the body

He just doesn’t want to make his UKposts overlords upset!

You know, it isn't beyond the realm of possibilities that someone can genuinely just be a nice person.

​@@letstrythisagain5096This comment tells us a lot about you

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@@RedPanda525 not in this country. 😅

That was dumb as hell wasnt it?

People think that if they act like they have no idea what you're talking about and giving up a little information will make then look innocent. It's hilarious

Well that was actually why she was a suspect. She was correct in what she was saying

@@mistert4533 that doesn’t mean she should say it. Her defense could’ve included that she saw someone pickup Brianna, but she already admitted she was the last to see her.

sharp as a cue ball

Some part of them wants to be caught and they like the idea of having their journal entries out there for people to look at. Part of their pathetic desire to be notorious 🤮

Have you heard of the scream killers of Cassie Jo Stodart, they actually videoed their intention to be serial killers. Check them out if you have not seen it.

The detective in court did say it was the first time he'd come across a killer who meticulously documented everything making his job easier.

Check out the uSA murder of Cassie Jo Stodart, the scream killers. They videoed their plans to be serial killers before and after.

check out the 'scream killers' they did the same but on video.

I watch at night to sleep also! 🙌🏼

It's truly heartbreaking 💔

Sad story but not a she

​@@kinglaffey8174GFY

*HE/HIM

I was thinking the same... I kinda wonder if that narrative is part of the whole subtext of self-soothing victim-blaminess that goes on. They always show how smart the perp was, how kind the victim was.

@@lightbeingform I know! In reality these are always the stupidest people around with zero self awareness or ability to handle their impulses and frustrations and no concept of long-term consequences. They act on a delusional and grandiose perception of their own abilities and underestimation of others. IF they were so smart they would be able to perceive reality in a more accurate way, handle their own emotions healthier and more resiliently, and rely less on delusional defense mechanisms to deal with everyday threats to their egos and self-perception.

That unicode letter spacing proves she's a psychpath. 😶

nothing about them says "smart". absolutely nothing at all.

How were they described as smart?

Hah thanks for being here!

Me 🤫🙌👍

Same here! 😂

Same! And I was listening to his video on Zohre Sadeghi when I saw this on my homepage 💀💀

Me too!!! I was rewatching last Friday’s!!

That's what I'm thinking. Like how convenient that he was only diagnosed with that after he got arrested for murder

He thought he was a girl, forgive them for not have proper thinking.

It’s actually a guy, and had he not been, his female victim would have had a far greater chance of fending off her attacker

Not the Zodiac or Unabomber, that's for sure.

@@sabrinatscha2554did you watch the video or is this your opportunity to be tranphobic

​@@sabrinatscha2554And we wonder why things like this happen in the world. Well, not when people like you comment.

They have it in their minds that they're these cool, composed, theatrical characters straight out of a movie. But they're little people, making others suffer for their own neurosis.

They also think they're so smart and will get away with it but end up detailing it all in a diary or via texts and leaving tons of evidence.

Across between self absorption,narcissist tendency,fantasy turned to reality, makes you wonder where and if they have been taught boundaries, or allowed perceived illnesses be the forefront of parents lives.

​@@peterunderdown4374 EXACTLY! It's obvious the "mom" still coddled Eddie like he was a baby i.e.- selective muteness, my arse! In my day you don't speak up you don't eat, etc... Parents these days are enabling their narcissistic, self-absorbed children ('toddlers') ALL the way to their prison cells! UGHHHH 😂😢

What happens when reality hits

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@@subzero07094 seriously? a young life was taken. have some modicum of respect, dude.

@@ratkingpierrot I have just as much respect for some guy I never met as I do with some guy I never met that wears dresses. Just correcting your mistake. Have a stupendous day!

@@subzero07094 youre weird and honestly pathetic as hell to go out of your way saying the same thing to just about everyone in these comments all for the sake of riling people up and being petty. there are far more constructive and less pitiful ways to get attention. have the day you deserve ♡

​@@subzero07094wow Eddie, i didn't know they let you use youtube in jail

Especially Eddie. He literally said his reasoning was hate crime. I’m autistic. Doesn’t mean I’d go off someone, and certainly doesn’t mean I’d treat a minority as less than.

@@d.h.4778 they murdered somebody bro "treading a minority as less than" is really not the issue here, legendary virtue signaling though

@@drewpeacock9087 there’s a reason there’s such charges as hate crime, which is what this was, and what the judge even admitted it was. Take your phobia somewhere else, bud.

@@drewpeacock9087 You know murders can be motivated by hate and bigotry right? Not sure how it's virtue signalling to mention something pertinent to the crime. Nor how it's virtue signalling to point out that the criminal being autistic shouldn't impact sentencing in this case. Your comment is unironicly a better example of a virtue signal. You don't address the entire argument, you then attack the person with a near meaningless term. May as well of called them woke.

They were released??

@@letstrythisagain5096 HER****

*HIS friends

I kinda feel bad for Eddie. Im pretty sure this wouldnt have happened to him if he hadnt run into a murderous lunatic and started associating with her.

I don't feel bad for Eddie at all. He wanted Brianna dead just as much as Scarlett did, and his transphobia was his motivation.

@@Scorch428 Maybe stop feeling bad for murderers. Just a suggestion.

@@Scorch428they were mates for five years and shared their murderous obsessions

@@Scorch428 I don’t, “I wanna see if _it_ screams like a man or a woman” Scarlett didn’t make him say that, that’s not smth you get convinced into. He was rotten from the start, he would’ve been a monster with or without Scarlett’s help. They enabled each other. He’s no less of a murderous lunatic than she is.

He wasn't trying to be himself. He wore a costume every day pretending to be someone he could never be.

"Brianna's" mother psychologically abused her son into believing that he was a girl and allowed him to cut of his body parts, and making him weak enough to fall prey to a little girl with a stabbing fetish. Who's really the bad guy in this story?

@@Carlton_Wilson Wtf's wrong with you? What a weird thing to comment about a teenage murder victim

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No, he did the opposite of being himself. Why do some people not understand that?

hopefully the spoilt kids get justice in prison !

Happy Wednesday : )

@@MicovskiMC you too mate have a great day! 🤠🦘

Heya

Happy Wednesday!

G'Day!

Hell yeah.mike is the best!❤🎉

Pretty easy when you make a couple 100 thousand a year

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He's gotta have a little team at this point with that immense growth? Then again his videos seem mostly the same as they did 5 years ago. Except he started taking ads and promos lately I guess

​@Morradierkaeb all these youtubers had to diversify with the state of UKposts guidelines. Adding ads, podcasts, patron etc. Disturban is a great example of why.

Since the judge said "at his majesties leisure" that means forever but with a technical chance of release but less then .09% are ever really released who get that sentence.

⁠i don’t think you understand how sentencing works here. It is unlikely they will ever be released. “At His Majesty’s pleasure” means indefinitely. They may be eligible for parole but they will never be truly free, they will be watched and monitored and have limitations for the rest of their lives, however long or short. The life sentence includes things like being constantly monitored and restricted for life - even if they were outside of prison. They would not be free.

@@baalberith5389it should be 0.00.

Satanists are in control.

The killers were unjust, but the justice system cannot be equally unjust. It must give them a chance to reform as they are very young.

They will be, leftists love criminals and mental illness and hate victims.

So sorry for your families loss ❤️

He*. Maybe your daughter shouldn’t hang around groomers.

@@gleebybooer 50% suicide rate, UKposts police won't let me get any more specific

@@gleebybooerwtf is wrong with you. She was a girl whether you like it or not.

@@gleebybooeryeah,that’s the takeaway here.

LMAO

@@colmhauser9532 why?

*Guy

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​@@bakielh229GIRL ☺️

I know how you feel ❤ children like ours are so easily manipulated but all we can do is teach them all we can, like I'm sure Eddies parents did, mine is 19 now and seems quite clued in to people trying to take advantage but that's unfortunately through experience. I'm just pleased the experience wasn't a criminal act. Your son will be fine, as much as it's hard your learn to let them make their own way and mistakes, they know they have a safe space with us to come home to, that's all you can do ❤

Well people have their own bias, fears and pattern recognition that keep them feeling safe and secure. You shouldn't fear that. Just teach your kid not to take it personal. Focus less on how other people think and more on how you and your child think and you will be fine. People are rightly wary or someone with mental health issues. (Not just talking your child but the wide array of issues humans can have) Not everyone knows how deep someones issues go and if they can be dangerous. So they are often wary until they find out. Its like how i wouldnt leave my severely autistic cousin to look after my child. But i'll let him cook for himself in my kitchen. There is a limit to how much i'll pretend they can do everything fine. There is a limit to how much i suspend my typical instincts to cater for his disability and so he can have a relatively normal life. My childs life and safety isnt trumped by the feelings of my cousin who i also love. And its not worth the risk for either of them. Other examples are this case for example. If this person wasnt so open minded. Was skeptical of peoples mental illness ect. They might have avoided them. And be alive right now. Pattern regocognition is important to humans. And being too empathetic can lead you to more dangerous situations. This is called hood logic in the ghetto. Where good people harden up and become cold because they will die if they don't. This is natural behaviour and serves us more than it doesnt. Your child will be fine as long as you treat him with a realistic expectation. And don't just fund and support everything thst makes their life easier. Life is hard sometimes. And some things should be hard. And are hard enough to teach people character and respect and many other things. Make them as self sufficent as possible. But don't give them entire independence if you know that could be harmful to others or themselves. Too many parents send these kids to school pretending like they are 100% functioning. And then wonder why they take the lyrics to a Metal Song too literally. By the way for context, the pattern of danger i see is this is a cousin who i saw swing a cat around by its tail when he was 15. Because he didnt understand properly. And he broke the cats tail. So regardless of his feelings. He got punished. And it wasnt ignored. He faced the same consequences any of my family would have if they did that. And it showed me that sometimes, he isnt capiable of rational thought. And i no longer leave him in situations where i think common sense is required. I think the issue is when people wrap these kids in cotton wool and adapt their world to cater to THEIR needs. Rather than teach disabled kids to survive in this world.

@@drunkpaulocosta9301 oh absolutely. I'm grateful my son is very much a rule follower, a strong sense of right and wrong. He comes home and he's appalled at the children who he sees vaping. Or when fights break out at school, he doesn't understand why anyone would fight like that. And I think /hope his nature is like mine and his dad's, we aren't fighters, I'm probably more of one to rock a boat that needs rocking, his dad would just walk away to avoid any conflict and I think our son is more likely to walk away from anything. Since my OG post, I've realised a friend knew of Eddies parents, not particularly well, but enough to know they are good people. And it's a shame for them to have to live with this now, I just hope people treat them well and they don't get hate for their sons actions. But I also agree with you, I wouldn't be allowing my son a knife, it's a risk to have a weapon. Yes we all have access to the kitchen, but a knife that is YOURS i feel leaves way easier access. X

Myself as a paraplegic autistic indigenous POC neurodivergent selective tourette's individual this horrifies me free Ukraine!

​@@autodidact7127lol

I'm from the Wirral not far from U an yeah this was heartbreaking and I hope that him an that evil b!tch is NEVER released! I can't imagine how scared poor Brianna was an she just wanted friends 😢 makes me so angry an so sad. R.i.p Brianna x

How she shouldn’t ^

Aye, it almostbdoesn't feel real.

Im from Wirral not far from U an this was heartbreaking X I hope they NEVER get released especially her. X

Scarlett shows some parallels with Joanna Dennehy who murdered three random men in Peterborough in 2013. Also from a stable home but went off the rails. Also needed a male accomplice.

Even classmates knew about the 'list' and told their own parents - and yet no one took it seriously enough to take any kind of actions. This is pure ignorance!

​@@user-rd6dh4hq1jOn one hand, in hindsight yes...a kill list looks pretty obvious. On the other hand a lot of kids don't understand how serious it is to say "I want to kill X,Y,Z persons". I was socially outcast adjacent, and there were kids who made similar lists. Nobody acted on it, but that should have probably triggered some response by councillors. I don't know what my point is. I guess I wonder what kind of intervention should be standard when a kid makes a list or expresses violent thoughts. I think it's common enough that it is often shrugged off. Or the kid is just told not to do that.

It takes a specific type of parent to enable a sociopath? "My Johnny would never do anything wrong" allows a parent to overlook signs that would scare the rest of us.

She also suffered from other mental illnesses including gender dysphoria. Sad all the way around.

I've had two friends murdered in separate incidents, in their homes. There are a lot of very evil people in the world.

I’m sorry for both your loses. ❤ it’s not the world. It’s the psychos living in this world. My heart breaks for all those that are taken from their families.

Doom and gloom thread

@@alisong2328sounds like you're name is hillary clinton

Sorry for your loss, I can’t even begin to imagine how you and everyone else who’s lost a loved one to murder must feel.

And yet they didn't release Brianna's name. I wonder what it was. A good reporter would have included it.

@@Carlton_Wilson unfortunately england (along with canada) legally protect the names of young offenders from going into the media. idk about you but i've known brianna gheys name for about 6 months, didnt know they didnt release her name too

@@Carlton_Wilson Surely you have better things to do than bully a dead girl.

@@Carlton_WilsonEr, well you’ve just said it! Briana…

@@dnr2089 right? lol It's truly amazing how few words are needed to contradict themselves.

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@@gleebybooeryou’ve spent much time adding this after so many kind comments. It’s kind of sad that this is what you do for enjoyment. I hope that whatever you’re going through eases, and that you move on to better things than obsessing over a murder victim’s identity.

He is right, not her, but he.

@@jasonking4209 The fact of the matter is that someone's child was brutally murdered by two psychopaths, and here you are, going on about identity. Brianna is gone. She lived her life as a female. Not a crime.

Poor, beautiful girl, she’ll be missed 🥺😔

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No peace is found in hell for him

​@@sshumkaeryou first troll

​@@subzero07094here you go, this is the external attention you obviously crave 🎉🎉🎉 sad basement goblin

Thanks for being here, Andrea!

@@ThatChapterMike, how about a That Chapter It’s Tree Thirty Somewhere T shirt?

@@Spooky_515 It would be tree turdy -

​@@cathybassett6432 I like Turdy Trees better lol 💩 🌲 lol

It's absolutely become a real issue. I joined a group about human dec0mp stains, which was originally formed so you could tag the group's name on photos of innocous things that look like suspiciously body shaped stains on carpets, etc. I joined because I'm fascinated with the human body and what happens after we d1e. However, a lot of people in that group are SICK individuals who find d3ath FUNNY and will post full uncensored videos of people dy1ng

And make fun of the dec3ased

​@@eshiadeserriere8913 it's funny to me that you place yourself above those yr admittedly in the same group as. Yr pearl clutching rings hollow.

@@HeyIwasaValedictorian I don't laugh about people commiting su1cide but go off I guess

@@Tapping916Same thing

In England we use the words prison or jail.

They will get out and be given new identities , unfortunately

Happy to tell you ... life in jail !

@@miky8788 It’s the UK,so it’s doubtful

I swear these killers don't think their crime through. they don't even try to put effort into hiding it

Kids playing 'serial killer' was their reality. No thought about the consequences or how to get away with it. They did not think that far ahead, hence all the information the court needed to prove guilt was still in her bedroom and on their own phones.

lol you overestimate her intelligence dude..

It’s wild how often these people are like “I’m so smart, I’m a master criminal, I’ve got this all figured out!” and then make a series of the dumbest mistakes anyone could ever think to make, getting themselves caught immediately. It’s kind of the dunning-Kruger effect in action. My favourite is Joel Guy Jr, who apparently actually was very intelligent, but literally wrote a journal called “The book of premeditation” and left the crime scene half cleaned up basically just cause he got tired, somehow thinking that no one else would be curious as to what happened to his popular, well liked parents. 🙄 Like dude, I thought you were supposed to be smart!!

The same sort of person who wears white to commit a murder

Agreed! ❤

How so?

​@@nathanwilliams4005probably from being honest and calling the victim what He is! A Male. Some people are too sensitive and enjoy being lied to.

@@daviddaddy why be such an ass?

​@daviddaddy yeah, and some people are close minded, uneducated and unwilling to learn

Given that they planned to stab her first in the back and then in the stomach, if that is indeed how that went, stabbing someone in the back knocks the wind clean out of them and thus she might not have been able to cry out because of that. Horrible stuff, I can't imagine the amount of fear and pain she must have been in in her last moments.

Apparently Eddie told Scarlet he wanted to see how big his private parts are. (I used a less vulagar phrase here so not a quote) so that could have been a reason he was leaning over her checking that? Im not sure but its all just messed up 😔

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@@lmr1049pronouns are important! *SHE

​@@lmr1049I fight against a lot of things including biological men in women's spaces like refuges and also in sports, but it doesn't hurt just to be kind.

It’ll be a pair made up of three members of the parole board (not officers lol) and they will have extensive records from psychiatrists, psychologists and prison staff to make a decision. Parole board members are themselves often lawyers, psychologists etc so I’m sure they’ve dealt with far more accomplished and experienced liars and criminals than these two, and it will be extremely hard to pull the wool over their eyes. The panel only considers whether they are currently a danger to the public; the actual punishment is the 22 years so public safety is the only thing the panel considers… with that being said, with this level of attention from the public, they might tend to keep them locked up so as not to become public enemies themselves lol. I think they’ll both do significantly longer than their minimum terms.

yeah usually they get denied but u never know these days ​@benhart777

They'll serve less than minimum, the english justice system is shit.

20 years is not long enough. They would still have time to start a family and that is not fair.

same here .. lots of idiots

He isn't in a better place but he gets to call Satan daddy

@@sshumkaerThere’s something horribly wrong with you….oh I know what it is….you’ve got a black heart full of toxins 😡

​@@sshumkaer Come on dude that's a teenager you're talking about

@sissysovereign1294 it's ok, Truth hurts sometimes. That teenager is also an adult, and that reality is for everyone

​@@sshumkaerAverage conservative

Interesting, I feel the exact opposite. I mean, I watch all his videos, I just don't know about all that. 😂

⁠@@chuck3518i think also you watching all his videos says a lot about you :)

People project what they want to see I personally find the parasocial aspect on most of the comments here to be weird, frankly.@@nazzy101

@@chuck3518 There's nothing wrong with your comment. I get the same feeling. He comes off as if he'd be criminally awkward and stiff in conversation.

​@@chuck3518yeah I don't know what's up with the parasocial circlejerking that go on in his comment sections 🤷‍♂️

Same for me. I was floored by it

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​@@subzero07094Triggered? I'm sorry, but it's so pathetic for you to comment and put your focus on that when a child was murdered.

@@btdfw Just honest. Not all of us play a game to pretend a boy recently groomed into a paraphilia is a girl.

@@subzero07094a child was brutally k1lled and you're focused on misgendering her

Peace and love from Birmingham 🕊️✌️

Best from Lake District 😍

Back at ya from Chester x

Not from the UK, but stay safe all the same!

Love from Caerdydd 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

Do you mean Scarletts parents

She wasn't that bright or centred. I'd guess her parents weren't that great.

​@@geeksworkshop S.J's mum is a high school teacher .

@@mol588 Indeed. The job doesn't make the person.

@@mol588Doesn’t mean a thing, obviously

It was a dude, so…

@@StoneCorazon no??? we're talking about Brianna. the girl who was murdered. Not Eddie.

@@chocomelo454 Yes, Brianna was under the illusion of being a female, when in fact he was a male. It's like me insisting my cheap Honda is suddenly a Bugatti... Real life doesn't work that way, I hope your mental illness gets better somehow.

@@chocomelo454 Yes, Brianna, the victim, was a male who was under the illusion of being a female. It's like me insisting my cheap Honda is a Bugatti... Real life doesn't work like that.

@@bakielh229 no? she wasn't a guy. she was a girl.

His mother should have been jailed for child abuse. Allowing your kids to get all that hormone replacement at such a young age. And "Brianna" should have followed the mother into jail, as he was helping younger kids do the same. As far as I'm concerned, the world is better off.

@ultimatums1 @Fyrdman I understand you two are seeking attention whether that be negative or not (similar to the murderers here). it just really is harmful sentiment. perhaps you lack creative thinking to consider life outside your own body, or just how broad the world and the people in it really are.. but I hope you figure that out someday. genuinely.

@@ultimatums1 it's interesting that the parents of these kids tend to be narcissistic and have something akin to Munchausen syndrome. Like on a disproportionate level as well.

@@ultimatums1 it's funny how often these parents are disproportionately narcissistic and have something akin to Munchausen.

Who let the trolls in? Don't you guys have an insurrection to plan?

I was thinking that exact same thing. "siblings or dating" should use these two lol

Lord, they do look like the same person!

I mean it is England.... Even the loyal family is invest.