Repeal Section 174, allow companies to expense R&D salaries for the year they are paid out. Currently, as of 2022, companies must amortize salaries over 5 years, notice the layoffs started in late 2022.

remote software developer jobs in US for people outside US.java developer.Thank you

Also, NY times reports tech unemployment is 3.3 percent, compTIA says 2.2 percent. So what is it? Feels like 10%. I have 15 years of cloud dev experience, yet have been unemployed for a year and 3 months, had several interviews, but no offer. Why is this? I think the compTIA is not reporting the actual unemployment rate, and 3.3 percent, doesn't seem like the real value.

@@jakeleone8944 My guess is that the difference is due to methodology, not sure how much detail they post about how they calculate. The deltas over time are probably more helpful / interesting. About 4-8 weeks ago I did a search on indeed for "java" in the US and got about 20k hits, on Friday I think it was down to 12k hits. WRT offers etc impossible to say other than I know a lot of people are experiencing similar, and the layoffs have been huge for the last 6-12 months. I'm seeing people saying they are applying to 200+ jobs w/o getting even an interview, so I guess you are doing ok on that scale. :\ If you didn't watch the tips for Java devs vid I did, check that one out. It's 90%+ valid for other stacks as well, might be some helpful stuff there...

if you made big bucks in the 90s you probably worked with C , C++ , but html was ok too

I was, I think 21 and sitting next to a 19 year old kid at COMDEX in 1995 working on a laptop. I thought I was awesome for my new job at Symantec making like $45k. I asked him what he was doing and he said "writing HTML for a bank in SF for $125/hour". Crazy times.

There was only about 20 guys doing them in 1993 And 19 of them were at CERN

Perl CGI-BIN scripts were a big deal!

Hearing about that is what got me to study programming in the first place 😂

The hilarious part is how many devs I know that are literally thinking of switching into plumbing, thinking it's like a 3-6 month just-read-a-book thing. ::sigh::

​@@ChangeNode I actually have a bit of a problem related to that, I worked as a SE for the last 4 years, but I got laid off a few months ago, and I haven't really been able to find a job just yet. Anyway my step-father owns a small construction company and keeps trying to push me into becoming a plumber or an electrician, he doesn't consider programming "real work" 😅

the difference is nobody wants more plumbers but they sure as hell want more engineers cause it keeps the talent pool high, consequences for the less fortunate be damned, that yacht is waiting

@@Zuranthus That isn't true at all. Nearly every trade has huge demand.

@@frank13621 a huge demand for lack of supply, nobody is pushing for more tradesman cept the ones suffering those shortages, the STEM push on the other hand is multifaceted, they want more engineers even though they already have an overabundance of them...there's a big difference

I know, right? It's SHOCKING!

hey I know probably the toughest is on juniors. Focus on what you can do: STUDY as if you were starting from scratch and create a startup, regardless wether you're a developer or not. I understand it makes no sense but even if you don't actually create one it can serve as resume when asked in interviews: what problems are you trying to achieve? what's the plan? how should be done? 🦾

@@fuu812best advice out here 🫡

if you are still in your 20s, switch careers immediately. I changed to web around 2021, worked as a developer then got laid off. now I can't find anything, even though I have experience. it sucks because I am pushing 40 and ageism in this field is very real. I have no idea what I am going to do. I can't switch careers anymore, it's too late. I am fucked. You still have time to pivot.

@@nbo304do you look like you’re pushing 40? Just lie about your age

@@chrisstucker1813 ha, good point

Start with moving from your mom house. Enterpreneur 😂😂😂😂

that's actually how you get in front of all the applicants, have a big project, hobby or commercial, in your resume.

​@@kishirisu1268 how do you do that without a job dummy

Delusional.

It does seem that way. Especially with modern software tools (including AI) making building your own app or product so simple and easy now, there's no reason everyone shouldn't be doing it.

dont accept shitty jobs like that

@@iGhostr there are just no choice, especially if you’re not from the US, either it will be 1000$ a month outsource sweat shop, or you’ll search for a job for years, but if you live from salary to salary you’ll be homeless soon this way. I searched for a year, multiple times was like two days from being on street, and all i found is 1000$ a month job and environment is very toxic so I’m burnt out completely and can’t even search for another job.

@@buc991 yeah I see that. but why don't you move to more affordable country then?

@@iGhostr i'm already in affordable country, but even here you need to rent and eat, and here in latam for example you need to pay more to live in a safe area, kinda wish to move to asia because of this, but it's expensive move. So for example salary is 1k, rent and food and some expendables 700$ i can keep 300 so in 10 months i will have some money saved for 4 months, but what next, how much i need to find a job, this all just sucks and not a very good life, also shitty jobs not stable, they can fire you anytime, on my previous one owner fired everyone in one day without notice and didn't paid for last month, this was a huge hit.

What another career?

Emergency fund? I've always lived month for month and I learned how to code with the dream of finally earning enough to start saving and not thing so much of money every month, but obviously a little too late. I've never had money for more than a month and a half at my bank account and I am sure I am not the only one. If you are able to not work for 6+ months you're very lucky!

It's not luck it's called financial responsibility. @@user-uw6pr7gv5x

With layoffs and jobs being transitioned to short term contract roles, it becomes challenging to have a role long enough to save that much especially with the strong possibility that you might be depleting your savings every 3-6 mos on a regular basis.

@@ericandbeethoven FTE jobs aren’t even considered to be long term anymore

@@mr.random8447 You are right. For example, I had a 1 yr contract and saved 4.5 mo. I was pretty satisfied with myself. Still not enough when you are facing long-term unemployment.

Thanks! My wife and I were just talking about how exhausting a lot of the vids w/the hyperedits are. My biggest challenge is trying to keep them down to ~10 minutes instead of just rambling on for an hour. ;)

Amen. Usually it’s some 22-year-old CS dropout wired up on Red Bull and telling us he knows everything there is to know about the software industry. It’s nice to see more measured and credible videos from people who, in fact, do know about the industry

@@ChangeNode well, you’ve actually spent decades in the industry and have real wisdom to share. I can understand why it’s hard to condense your videos when you have more to offer than just fluff lol

Good luck - lot to sort out. If you go check out trades be sure to check the licensing process for your location, eg in WA state it can take a while. FWIW my guess is most kids are going to run away from software dev and so in a few years there will be a shortage. But very hard to say for sure 🤷‍♂️

Electrician and/or HVAC.

Indeed, I have 6+ years of experience and I still got hit the same. I was lucky that I purchased things like welding equipment before any of this happened so now I can put it to use.

7:10 there are examples of such solutions and they are decades old such as sap

What are we gonna do mate ?

Dont give up. I graduated in statistics in 2018 and it took me 3 months of applying to jobs every day before I got a bite and a job offer across the country. I know it can be tough but dig deep and continue to build your skills. Data engineering is solid and if you have some basic coding knowledge you can spin up your own example AWS servers and SQL database examples pretty easily. Spend your days working on your skills and resume, apply to jobs and remember people always need hard working capable people. If you put work into your skills every day you're already ahead of 90% of people and you will find a job.

@@chickenbroski99 can a fresher get a data engineering job ? I have a couple of projects in data analytics and machine learning. And am proficient in sql python power bi and know a bit of aws also

​@@chickenbroski99 Thank you for sharing your experience and your encouragement chickenbroski (nice name too). Knowing that I'm not alone and that I will be needed somewhere helps a lot. I will keep the faith and keep trying - I hope others in a similar boat can find what they need to do the same. Also, I actually have worked as a data engineer, do you think those roles might have more opportunities?

​@@chickenbroski99average time to get a job is 18 months

I am currently employed at a company in Australia where its flagship app still runs on AngularJS 1.5 on the front end. Year after year, it continues to attract more than 10 million visits. Occasionally, we add small features or deprecate existing ones. Imagine all those applications that have been built over the years with the current tech stack and are expected to be used for the next 10+ years. There are both good and bad aspects to this. Not all developers will be willing to work with a tech stack that was deprecated 10 years ago.

exactly if all are in the same boat, it incentivizes the people to start something. This itself creates more jobs. But the definition of the job will change. it will be something like "fix/add/remove something and get paid" instead of "9 to 5 404 paid holidays". The idea of paycheck will disappear, it will be kind of freelancer economy instead of corporates. sometimes change is necessary no matter how comfortable we are with the old ways.

That means less stability/consistency that eats away at things like settling down having kids or buying a house... Taking on more loans or credit cards as buffer lol

Thats exactly the plan. Pretty much the entire corporates and especially the banks have attacked the concept of a family life with a single income. @@dallysinghson5569

@@dallysinghson5569 Exactly, we are heading for a cliff.

Thank you! :)

Writing scripts right now on macro econ and how the AI stuff intersects! :)

@@ChangeNodeGreat! Thanks Will :)

AI has done zero to the programming market. Stop perpetuating this myth

I'm in my late 30's and currently self-learning... i enjoy it, but maybe i made a mistake...

@@jjjj5452 I don’t think you did. This video was informative, but at the end of the day it’s one person‘s opinion. I think we are still a long ways away from autonomous AI coding agents that can do work anywhere near comparable to a human programmer

Same as a former front end dev myself. Who also adapted the full stack development shit is hard to keep constant. But speaking from experience find some music that you enjoy listening to and that helps you want to learn. You'd be surprised how much it helps For me it's vaporwave

Agreed. Auto-workers in the late 1950 - early 1960s were correct to be concerned about the changes automation would bring, but the jobs didn't just all disappear at once. In fact, there are still auto-worker jobs today in the US -- just fewer of them. Focus on the fact that you are aware of the changing landscape and you are being warned to prepare and plan. Use your time wisely.

I think the difference between auto makers and software is that there are only so many cars to sell. The demand for software is much more elastic -- "is it worth automating X? Yes, if it is cheaper than Y". So, if software becomes easier to write we should expect more investment into software in general, not less. What we're seeing now is the business cycle, not the AI apocalypse.

​@@doublereedkurt1 Absolutely agreed about the AI apocalypse. I am only talking about the historical relationship between economics and human labor capacity. The same thing happened with the introduction of steam power, mechanization, electricity, etc. At every point in American history where the productivity of human labor spikes, corporations reap the benefits while employees gain virtually nothing. If a production studio can suddenly make 10 widgets with only three people that had previously required a crew of 30 to make one, there are layoffs. We like to imagine that the company trains up the 27 old employees so that everyone benefits, but that isn't how corporations operate. They will hire 27 entry level people who already have expertise in the new tech, further resulting in the CEO/CTO getting a bonus for being so clever, while the 27 old employees lose their homes. It doesn't matter that this productivity spike is software. It doesn't change how corporations work.

It takes a lot of knowledge to get the AI to work on a solution. There's a lot of back and forth with the AI (which is why Google search engines are obsolete when it comes to asking even simple coding questions) in order to fill in the gaps of the questions we ask of it. For example, asking the AI to make a simple regex usually turns out to be...not so simple most of the time. But also philosophical questions like static methods, coupling, refactoring, unit tests, and so on will usually take dozens of questions to the AI. A lot of my AI questions are philosophical questions that does indeed make me a much better coder. And I think that's AI's strength...it allows you to not worry too much about the details of coding/refactoring but on the business rules that the program supports. It's the business rules that are complex and require senior programmers, not usually the coding itself.

@@doublereedkurt1 Also with auto makers, the reason was a lot of jobs went abroad or the companies just lost the market so there was less need.

Yeah, I've sat in the room with a lot of CFOs that would say stuff like, "but I see devs overseas for $20, why am I paying you guys" The projects fail, but the rates are cheap, and by the time it gets sorted basically everyone loses. I do think there are a lot of what back in the day were Access DB apps that nowadays are just done with low/no code stuff like Airtable, Wix, etc. Wordpress of course.

You said it perfectly

I am sorry you and @ChangeNode had bad experiences with outsorcing. There are ways around it though. In countries like Costa Rica they are in a similar time zone, they are taught correct and technical english, and there are lots of cultural similarities that enables good collaboration. I don't doubt that these people are professionals but communication can be tricky. Also those teams usually have some members from the US and they produce the same work (and still get paid 4x the money). So it's more about the team than it is an issue with outsorcing. Just remember there are hundreds of companies that were built this way successfully.

@@ChangeNode I am sorry you and @JohnMcclaned had bad experiences with outsorcing. There are ways around it though. In countries like Costa Rica they are in a similar time zone, they are taught correct and technical english, and there are lots of cultural similarities that enables good collaboration. I don't doubt that these people are professionals but communication can be tricky. Also those teams usually have some members from the US and they produce the same work (and still get paid 4x the money). So it's more about the team than it is an issue with outsorcing. Just remember there are hundreds of companies that were built this way successfully.

@@nicolasguillenc It's all very complicated. I had a conversation with an Agile software dev company based in Costa Rica, oh, I want to say, 10 years ago and they were really great. They said that their clients always insisted on coming to visit. :) In the US at least, there are countless examples of people being fired from their jobs and being replaced with cheaper companies outside the US or local contractors (usually with far fewer benefits and protections). Both of these are often short-handed in conversation as outsourcing. This has been a trend at least since the 1970s. In many cases the laid off employees are told that they will only get severance packages if the employee agrees to spend a few months training their replacement. This has affected almost every sector of American life - from manufacturing to software development. Making it even more complicated, at the same time, people in the US also benefit by importing these inexpensive products and services. The core challenge is that if someone loses their income/career telling them that they can buy products/services for less is cold comfort. The analogy to AI and robotics is the same - people losing their job don't really care about the macroeconomic deflationary situation. If you lose your job to outsourcing to another human or an AI, either way you've lost your job. There are some interesting parallels to employees contributing to 401k and pension plans. Those plans create pools of money seeking returns, which in turn invest in equity and hedge funds that pressure companies to do layoffs to increase profitability, and then in turn those companies lay off the people saving money for retirement. Similarly the pressure to outsource/automate. It's all so endless complicated. Even more so when, oh, you are trying to write scripts for UKposts and keep it under ten minutes. 😬🤷‍♂

There's no shortage of SE SD but we keep hearing about shortages probabyl from folk trying to sell courses or companies looking to hire or outsource avroad

@@dallysinghson5569The thing is that’s what they shovel these people into. There’s plenty of tech roles like devops, webdev, IT, etc but everyone wants to be a software engineer lmao

@@Txx00xic Wdym? "Software engineer" has just become a term for a web developer. And every title you mentioned fits under the broad superset of IT

I go back and forth on that one a lot right now. I found using an LLM to really help on learning a new stack, eg I was doing some tests bridging some Rust and C lib and it was so much easier than trying to dig through eg broken/incoherent old StackOverflow posts. I *think* if someone just loves the space in 2024 I would say to learn Rust first (kind of how I did Pascal/C back in the day) and then HTML/SQL/CSS/TypeScript. So if you are a kid that would mean really leaning in on using an LLM to help you learn stuff. Then when you pop out of school you would be the LLM whisperer for all of the lower level stuff. One problem with all of this is trying to figure out what or where the AI will eventually plateau. If it doesn't that's... going to be tough.

@@ChangeNodeDo not focus on your experience - focus on the experience in a year or two, 2 models forward (i.e. GPT-2 level to GPT-4 in jump) and integrated into development environments. And then the next models are already in the works.

How did you get a job as a solution architecture? What skill do you have

love this

Yeah. I had friends back then that went into stuff like that and IMHO they worked way harder with a lot more math. I wound up focusing on the dev side and made quite a bit more. I remember going into Carl's Jr with one guy right out of school and he realized that given the hours he was working he was making less than a CJ manager. He wasn't even mad, just... sad.

Easier said when no one is dependent on your ability to provide.

​@@henryjoseph3584 Thats why you need to save 6 salaries and have them as buffer... Instead of wasting all of your salary every month..

They wont come back

This is all anyone can ever do. There will always be opportunities and no one doubts that tech is a huge part of the future. No one knows what or when the next opportunity will be. All we can do is prepare and be ready for when it arrives. Like the man said in this video, the buzz is around cloud computing, automated workflows, and robotics (driven by AI of course.) I know where I’m putting my study time.

No employeer gives a crap about your studies, stop wasting your time @@stillmattwest

God. Maybe I need to look at a career change then lol. I find that stuff so mind numbing and boring. I’m already having to deal with lots more devops and terraform stuff than I ever wanted to at work

​​@@luke5100same here. I just want to give you my artifact, at most a docker container and im done. Leave me alone with all the other bs, is just want to develop the application...

from the job postings I've seen, backend is still strong but devops/data engineering is stronger.

@@junicornplays980 thank goodness I am primarily a backend dev

​@@junicornplays980what about software engineering? Is it still safe?

Thanks! And good luck on the channel. :)

Did you see the vid on how to get a Java job? When I posted it I had less than 1k subs and they were 99% Java, but tbh 90%+ of the material is for any dev. Check it out and lmk thoughts...

Very soon!

Honestly I’m 2 years into a compsci degree and I’m going to switch to becoming an electrician before I have crippling debt and no job.

This largely underestimates what it takes to become a master craftsman in a factory, I think It comes down to obsolescence feeling different when someone is doing it to you instead of you doing it to someone else

Same here... Constantly wondering whether I should even continue working on the degree. Just a few years ago it was a no-brainer, but now I'm very concerned because of all the debt I'm taking on to get it. Feels like entry-level jobs for new grads are going to be extremely hard to get, due to the high CS/SE enrollment, outsourcing, and any further advances of AI in the next few years which might end up being able to replace the work of a lot of junior devs

I think the timing could work out great for you. At the moment, this is the peak of a correction while you are halfway through a course. I think the primary driver to this situation was the excessive hiring in 2020 to handle the huge increase in demand for online activity due to people at home with lockdowns; e.g. In April 2020, Amazon announced they were *hiring* 100,000 new employees. Apply that across Microsoft, Google, Cisco, etc. After the lockdown/restrictions were gradually lifted, this online demand returned more to normal, meaning so many of those jobs were unnecessary. So I see it effectively like a hiring pump & dump (2020 pump, 2023-2024 dump). The correction, happening right now, will comprise of people spreading out to other fields (mechanical, trade, commerce, retail, etc.), emigration and shift to entrepreneurship. By the time you get out of your university course, this will likely have settled down. Tech is not goin g away, in fact, quite the opposite. Look at the ongoing developments with CBDCs, tracking, surveillance, blockchain, tokenisation, AI, etc. Whether you want to be part of some of those areas ethically is another matter. But the investment will be there. As a tip, I've seen a major shift toward Python in recent years. Most jobs going now list Python over Java or other languages.

And when you quit that, they tell you go be a software engineer or do something in biology: which pays pennies on the dollar. Classic situation of you're F ed in all ways.

You will see soon enough using skilled nurses with LLMs replacing doctors and putting a downward pressure on their wages as well

You’ll be in debt and possibly shipped off to Nebraska but you’ll have a job if you even get into med school and finish.

@@eliana993 I have a relative who's about to make half a mil a year as a doctor at a hospital working 4 days a week...

Yeah doctors have a strong union type of thing called ADA where they limit the number of people who can become doctor in school programs

Yeah, IMHO the biz side is very important but for devs. Trying to thread the needle on that one...

test automation is sweet because it was intractable before genAI

If your tests are machine generated they aren't actually testing anything

@@josephp.3341 I agree

Maybe because that managers doesn’t know what exactly “AI” is.

You got this man, I hope your plans work out.

ensure you add value to your life first not always to your employer, everyone is replaceable. I am always making sure of this to ensure my own sanity and future security.

Our way of life needs better alternative, but at the same time, people also need to be more responsible. I know for a fact that there's a lot of people that simply don't make enough, I make roughly hundred plus a year and in California, rent inflation alone eat up almost all of what I make, with dependents and other obligations included, it's easy to end up with zero.

Big ups to everyone working effortlessly trying to earn a living while building wealth even after the massive layoffs. My wife and I we are both retired with over $2 million in net worth and all paid off debts. living smart and frugal with our money, made it possible for us this early, even till now we earn passively with our asset coach. Adapt to a lifestyle, be thrifty, set a budget, save money and build more streams.

Impressive Joe Robert! having a great savings and more streams to earn makes life goal’s easier, I make most stock purchases when the market is in a confirmed uptrend or cheap cost, although most stocks I bought months ago which showed strong signs of doing well has greatly underperformed. It’s okay for me on the long run, however it’s a good time to add to existing holdings at follow -on opportunities.

Personally I'm not a fan of blockchain tech or crypto currencies. The best & worst part of tech is the rate of change. I have done Java since 1995 and it's almost totally transformed what and how it works numerous times. My suggestion would be to learn Rust, TypeScript/HTML/CSS, and SQL. If you want a real challenge, try building a desktop app with Tauri that talks to some lower level hardware thing and then stuffs that data into a database. If you can demo that and talk to it esp in a few years I think you would be in a pretty good spot. That's hardcore mode(tm) but I think a lot of potential employers would be pretty impressed.

@@ChangeNode Thank you very much for your response .....I bet the suggestions above set you up for a career in deep tech ....like you will be well prepared for it

Thanks!

Yeah. Very hard trying to strike balance between “here is the info” and “egad this could get bad.” Hope for best, plan for worst, try to stick with “cautious optimism”

The skills of most software developers are pretty low so if you are good you won't have a problem finding jobs.

@@asdf8948Seniors are struggling to find jobs aswell, good/experienced ones are getting their proverbial heads lopped off too.

If you have a job then keep on doing it. The next investment cycle will begin soon. If you don’t have a job then reskill and don’t be proud about your skill set. Eg if you are a backend dev then look at data engineering, if you are front end maybe look at ai tools and services and how to incorporate those into user experiences. A big difference between the robotics jobs and software jobs is how location bound they are. I think jobs will be more location bound in the future so prepare your life so that you can move across the country or even between countries. I’m an older worker and I have been through many boom busts and personally my greatest takeaway is to always try to be where it happens, and then find my own angle to it. I started in qa during the mobile boom, went to analytics when ai boom started and now I’m in data engineering.

I touch on this in the Java jobs video a bit, check that out and comment if you have more Qs

@@sxxon751What do you mean by data engineering? Python? What concepts should I be googling here?

@@sxxon751 When making those shifts in tech area, did you find yourself coming in on a lower pay than people with more years in that particular area, despite similar total years of exp?

@@woofmeow247 yes its a bit lower. Entry level positions in thefield is 40k, i got 55k and mid career my age is about 60-70k.

Thanks!

8 years and still laid off?

8 years and got laid off is scary

Wishing you the best, brother. It got pretty brutal out there pretty quickly

8 years laid off means you weren’t performing well sorry bud

Not at all. Entire orgs at my company were dismantled.​@@Mustang85635

I've been following VR since Oculus DK1-2 days. I still think about the huge "how to make people not throw up" document in the SDK. Have a Q3 and love it, but mostly use it for exercise.

I am In XR/VR space for 7+ years now. I think it will be a 3-5 more years till it becomes a mass market device with gaming and enterprise being the main markets for XR/VR. Still lots of optical and cost challenges to make things small enough to replace your phone. We are in death valley in tech. this is where all the inefficient unprofitable companies are going to die, investment is going to get more focused, and reduce the noise for consumers. With Moore's Law dead efficiency and application is the big focus.

Awesome. The first machine I got to use was a Commodore PET w/a cassette tape drive, and my formative teenage years I had an Apple //c. Thinking of calling it at some point, or going to keep going...?

@@ChangeNode I like doing what I do. I don't need to but I don't know what I'd do if I stopped. I've never been one for golf or fishing and half the people I know who've retired had a heart attack within a year.

@@peterd788 Oof, yeah. Figuring out how to reengage with life outside of work is a whole thing. My grandmother turns 100 in August and talking to her over the last twenty years has been very eye-opening about the challenges of aging. She's still sharp as a tack, I only hope that I'm in as good a condition even in my 80s. I turned 50 recently and I got this poster shop-us.kurzgesagt.org/collections/infographic-posters/products/lifespan-timeline-poster?_pos=2&_fid=89d8e62ac&_ss=c&variant=39451591770160 The poster has been weirdly clarifying and induces a sense of calm in me, but it stresses my wife out so it's hung behind the door to my office lol.

That and death march are classics!

That was a scary book. CASE turned into little more than “learn an IDE”, though. Unfortunately, offshoring still took off, but so did cleaning up after it 😁

Thanks!

Put in a request for Devin access, curious to see. FWIW there have been some very interesting CLI LLM tools that do some of that, tho Devin does look slick. But AFAIK you still will need a dev minder. IIRC Devin has a very curious 13% stat on it. Had like five people ask about this in the last few hours, if I get access I'll do a vid on it. Hmm.

That's awesome! My two cents - to really get your money out of college, make sure you network, do internships, etc. You can learn a ton w/o going to college in terms of skills, but the college $ buys you networking opportunities. Also try to think of it not just as tech but also at least one domain to fold in (eg retail, or medicine, or automotive, or whatever). That way you can pivot much more easily, just in case, plus it'll make it dead easy to get a job in that field later.

theres no need to hire juniors. youre missing an important point- any new tech break through works bottom up.

current generation of LLM-based AI is such a meme, funny that your company was naive enough to start using it for real. Normally you use AI just to get easy VC money while the AI hype is still there, not because it is actually useful or improves your productivity

Glad it was helpful!

I would guess that you would be able to find something, especially if you are flexible on wages. #1 thing would be to start networking now. It may seem like it's a long time away but if you start talking to recruiters today in your local area it will make sure you can get $ again without a gap. They will also be able to give you feedback on the value of the program. My guess is that you are hearing a lot of differences in outcomes for a wide range of factors, from skill set to networking/connections etc. Old joke, "a recession is when my neighbor loses their job, a depression is when I do" and I think there's a lot of that underlying the mood.

Yeah, what I've been telling folks in other comments is to imagine if that $150k job is now a $120k or $80k job. Would they still do it? Also to make sure they have at least some of idea of a backup. It's rough tho no matter what.

Yeah I got into SWE kinda knowing that the whole 200k full stack dev thing was just a bubble.

I don’t see anything wrong with selecting a degree that “promises” financial stability. In fact it should be encouraged. Furthermore, just because you love something doesn’t mean you’ll be able to support yourself, let alone a family (see artists). IMO, what we’re experiencing is late stage capitalism. Corporations have become so large and powerful that they pretty much own governments. This puts all the leverage into the hands of a very small group of people and none to the masses.

Yeah, that's part of why I put the AWS chart in to kind of highlight how much AWS etc are going to try to eat everything. Going to try to use AI to automate as much of the cloud mgmt etc etc etc. Even if the AI stuff isn't all there yet/requires humans to click "approve" still going to try to integrate as much as possible

At least in Seattle there's just flat no inventory as everyone who has a ~3% loan and equity is more or less locked in. No inventory -> prices stay pretty high. I'm not sure how bad things would have to get for the market to actually crash (eg if housing dropped 30-50%) and I'm not sure I want to find out. Been going through some stuff on economics in Japan/Tokyo and I think that might be a comparable model for how the next few decades will go

You are correct. But other engineering branches have a very low demand. But now that’s Changing

because most coding jobs really don't need you to be a CS major to do them. You don't need a CS degree to make a website or even an app. You DO need a CS degree to go into ML, AI, robotics, cyber security, probably data science & other advanced fields.

Oh, it's a hugely complex area. Real estate speculation. Need for folks to be close to jobs driving up costs for specific locations. Private equity appears to be a new one. There's also data showing that at least in the US there's some multiple of the number of homes needed sitting empty as second homes/vacation homes/etc. Where I am (Seattle) even though rates went up there's no inventory and so the $ keep going up. In theory if the costs for the construction dropped at least folks could build on empty and/or redo existing for a lot less $. Housing could easily be a whole video/series...

FWIW it's almost impossible to keep up with the rate of change right now. I mean, there are channels that do nothing but report on AI/robotics advancements every day all day. My two cents - keep up a relatively high focus on learning/flexibility. If work is spending $ on you learning that's fantastic. AWS & full stack & domain expertise FTW. Also FWIW don't forget to have at least 2-3 recruiters you touch base every few months.

RE the automation, I keep coming back to a terminology thing. Industrial robotics have been a thing for a long time, adding in ML/LLM stuff seems like it will make those better. Does that count as AI robotics? I think so, but unclear as to impact in the real world...

@@ChangeNode What I've seen is all the talk of AI made executives finally believe automation is possible and they are investing resources into it in a way they weren't three years ago. The last company I worked for got rid of all of operations, most of QA, and most installers. Non-AI Software does those jobs now and those jobs are gone for good. Yes they have folks building that software but it's way fewer folks. Most of us aren't irreplaceable geniuses our careers exist between little inefficiencies that are being eliminated with automation and big data.

@@JD-vj4go I wish I only had to read comments like yours when I browse internet. I like smart people.

Yeah, FWIW obviously esp in this market make sure you have a solid job in hand before quitting. Beyond that it's the usual, fill out your skill set, etc. Did you check out my other vid on Java jobs? If you are an SWE probably most of it would still be helpful/interesting even if you aren't Java...

its easy to be hired while you are working. so you don't need a leap of faith, just send your cv online

Are you Indian??

Theoretically mental "work" can be automated by a sufficiently powerful LLM, and physical work by AI-enhanced robotics. But that's a) technically theoretical as this stuff isn't here yet and b) we don't really know timelines. It's extremely hard to predict esp as stuff is literally coming out every day, and also tbh there's a LOT of hype in the demos and talking points. So, we all kind of have to simultaneously plan for a variety of scenarios ranging from "existing software just gets LLM/ML features" to "there is no role for human labor beyond managing machines" as well as "it's going to get weird in a way we can't predict right now" IMHO it's trying to plan for all of those scenarios that kind of makes AI stuff exhausting.

@@ChangeNode @ChangeNode thank you for a profound elaboration. The biggest problem with LLM is that they are basically a probability algorithm. All their, let's say, creativity expression, is limited to humans labeling the output "creative enough". They cannot provide us with something profound, the cannot possess "qualia" and "intentionality" yet. Of course, the variation of plausible "pseudocreative" output will certainly be broadened, but LLM cannot perform well in that regard. The output is somewhat like a street magician "predicting" some random pedestrian's future. At the very least they will be good enough to make everything dull and seamless because they won't be able to perform outside of the set borders. Of course this does not mean that we are safe, I agree with you, I just think, LLM won't lead to AGI. Sorry if I cannot express myself much broader, English is my second language. I am doing a PhD research on an influnce of using neural networks and GenAI to our social reality. Thank you again. God bless! I hope that you (and we all as a species) will make it through this period.

tl;dr it's absolutely being affected but how is totally up in the air imho. script kiddies & other black hats are of course upping their game w/LLMs. There have always been automated tools for checking stuff. My take is that having the ability to understand what's even going on is still going to be even more valuable. One heck of a war between both sides.

Yeah, just needs to affect, say, 20% to have a big impact on salaries/etc. I agree not all, but I just spent some time begrudgingly going through some Bubble stuff and it does an awful lot. I don't know that I would want to build/maintain it but ... sigh.

Most low code tools are an inferior way to code. Ironically, they actually have more code because you're coupling your implementation to someone else's system

Yeah I actually worked as a bubble dev for a while and there were tons of situations that required me writing JS to circumvent limitations. Its a powerful tool, but it does have a lot of drawbacks. big ones are price of scaling your app and slow queries on large databases.

@@fernandomarturet2486 the db is postrgres underneath from what I can tell. Did you try using an external data source eg Supabase or Amazon Aurora and/or REST services to help w/scaling & costs? Any other drawbacks you've run into?

RE: the job offers, that's awesome! From what I can tell, the extroverted technical person is quite rare. When I was in high school I split my time between tech/nerd stuff and drama/improv which was (and still is) extremely rare. I have seen data that says that a huge percentage of the population rates "fear of public speaking" above death(!).

@@ChangeNodeI’m a huge advocate for drama/improv and theater. My brother was in theater, and I loved watching him. He later became a litigator, and does quite well for himself. I can definitely tell you’re a great orator. Very structured and expressive talks on here. Looking forward to see more content.

I have seen people good at softskill and extrovert moves slowly to the management side of business, easy money

Wait until your job is automated also. I am sure you ll have fun.

Visual Cafe 🙌 lol I have some vids of me demoing Visual Cafe and Symantec C++. I look like I’m 13. Good stuff, maybe as part of a history of Java vid 🤔