Why Heat Pumps are Immensely Important Right Now

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More pumping. More now.
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00:00 Intro
00:43 An old video needs correcting
02:19 The Coefficient of Performance
03:16 Resistive Electric Heat's Challenges
05:16 How Heat Pumps get around those
07:39 Modern Heat Pump Performance Is Amazing!
08:33 An analysis of Chicago winters and Heat Pumps
10:53 Hourly Analysis and Conclusion
12:24 Caveats (costs and demand)
13:52 The Main Point Of This Video
15:49 Backup heat, its necessity, and the options involved
18:29 Conclusion and where to go from here
19:56 Bloopers

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@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
If you’re here to look at (or join) all the people who want to tell you that they think heat pumps aren’t good, here’s the brass tacks: Heat pumps are the most efficient way to use *any source* of energy - including fossil fuels - for heating buildings in almost all cases; recent improvements in Air Source heat pumps have meant this remains the case in all but the most extreme temperatures. While energy costs to the end-user may be out of whack right now - sometimes more resource-intensive energy is cheaper, for better or worse - it is factually the case that modern heat pumps allow us to RIGHT NOW reduce the amount of fuel we need to consume (a good things for various reasons), and make electrification easier as we go on.
@zyansheep
@zyansheep 2 роки тому
I wonder if there is a green alternative to boilers too...
@lordnox69
@lordnox69 2 роки тому
Technology Connections the not so hidden gem of UKposts
@markjohnson8824
@markjohnson8824 2 роки тому
I want to make a DIY heat pump. I have a 1 acre pond that has a ton of heat in the winter.
@josh8344
@josh8344 2 роки тому
Fully agree. But backup sources of heat are needed in climates like Chicago, let alone other more northern areas.
@jayw654
@jayw654 2 роки тому
might be the best way but it's not the most effective. I froze with a heat pump and it was a brand new heat so I wasn't impressed at all and couldn't wait to get rid of it.
@henkfinkers3931
@henkfinkers3931 2 роки тому
While I agree with everything you said there is something even more important especially in the USA. Insulation. Insulation earns back the investment easily (especially with the current rising prices) and will also reduce the need for heating meaning your heating pumps won't be on as often and that IF there is a failure your house will hold on to the heat inside of it.
@Robert-cu9bm
@Robert-cu9bm 2 роки тому
Retrofitting buildings has problems. Extra insulation designed into new buildings is better.
@petecottham5385
@petecottham5385 2 роки тому
Agreed, the first point of focus in any house should be minimizing heat energy leaks. Double glazing, foam insulation between drywall and roof insulation should be installed before installing sustainable heat/cooling systems...
@henkfinkers3931
@henkfinkers3931 2 роки тому
@@Robert-cu9bm Every problem has problems. We have gotten really good at insulating whole houses here in Europe. Companies can do it within a day most of the time now. Surely if you want to do it perfectly you would have to design the house like that from scratch but perfect is the enemy of good enough and many people live in older buildings.
@seigeengine
@seigeengine 2 роки тому
No, Robert is right. It's pretty difficult and expensive to add meaningful insulation to an existing home, and then you have to deal with the house not having been initially designed for that insulation, so insulating can lead to problems even worse than a little inefficiency. In contrast, heat pumps can basically be slotted into any existing home without problems beyond the basic cost. Altering insulation requirements is not going to make any meaningful difference any time soon. Also, the USA is kind of outside of the core motivator of this video anyways, since it produces it's own natural gas.
@Tithis
@Tithis 2 роки тому
@@petecottham5385 We chose to get a central heatpump prior to major insulation work. In our case it was cheaper to install the heatpump now vs all the insulation work. We live in a 250 year old house that has insulation added to the walls, but had very open sheathing and no house wrap, meaning on windy days the insulation loses much of its value. Even the triple pane windows aren't all the valuable if you got cold air coming through your electric sockets. Now we just had the worst side of the house resided and had a tyvek wrap installed under it, but that one side cost more to do than our new heatpump did (once the $5k rebate comes in) So to us it made more sense to get the heatpump installed now, and help save money for the future residing and house wrap.
@WanJae42
@WanJae42 2 роки тому
This is only tangentially related to the topic, but please learn how to use alternate sources of heat before there's a winter calamity of some sort. My old subdivision had a week long power outage during an unusual winter event, and although everyone had a gas fireplace, they were electrically operated so nobody used them. It turned out almost nobody knew there was a battery harness in the service panel below the fireplaces where you could install a pair of D batteries and get pretty good heat (at least in one room). Nobody read the instructions that came with the stove / oven, either, where it details how to override the electronics and light the thing with a match.
@startedtech
@startedtech 2 роки тому
I really hope someone doesn't need a manual for lighting a gas stovetop when the electricity is out...
@ps5hasnogames55
@ps5hasnogames55 2 роки тому
climate change is fake, prove me wrong
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 роки тому
@@andymerrett A battery-powered ignitor would need battery replacement and a physical or piezo ignitor is is much more annoying. As almost every stove has an electric (or electronic) clock built in there's no reason _not_ to use the same electricity for lighting the stove.
@WanJae42
@WanJae42 2 роки тому
@@startedtech As the gas valves on these stoves are electronically controlled, it requires knowing where you stick the tiny Allen wrench to manually open the valve. Not rocket science, yet not something the average person who microwaves their dinner is going to figure out, either.
@bridgetthewench
@bridgetthewench 2 роки тому
When my mom's kitchen stopped having functional electricity on one wall, she just started using a lighter to start the stove. I'm surprised more people don't know how to do that, it's very easy!
@sstorholm
@sstorholm 2 роки тому
As a Finn where we’ve been using mini splits for heating for 2 decades, the most important thing is R32. Nothing gets even close to it in performance for heating in cold climates. According to our national laboratory, the second most important component to performance is the name Mitsubishi on the front of it, for some reason.
@GlossaME
@GlossaME Рік тому
What about Daikin products?
@Teutathis
@Teutathis Рік тому
Geothermal heat pumps are more efficient and they're all over Scandinavia and have been for many years now. Good thing too because it ain't fun to have an inefficient heat system when the electricity bill comes a knockin' these days. Last winter the energy prices in Sweden went absolutely ballistic and I read about people having to mortgage their house to pay the bill.
@BLUEHOUNDZULU
@BLUEHOUNDZULU Рік тому
Mitsubishi R32? Nissan spinning in confusion?
@takeshikovax6254
@takeshikovax6254 Рік тому
R32 units aren't sold in the U.S. yet (except in some window units). Our building codes don't offer any guidelines for R32 systems yet, which is probably important since R32 is flammable.
@rybaluc
@rybaluc Рік тому
@@takeshikovax6254 Well...let's ask ourselves a question : Which high performance coolants are not flammable?
@bonsaimurphy3436
@bonsaimurphy3436 2 роки тому
I own an HVAC company in Ottawa, Canada (MURPHY HVAC INC) and we specialize in air source heat pumps installations. Mostly Mitsubishi Hyperheat units that can produce heat down to -30°c or -22°f. The inverter technology is pretty awesome and we've helped clients save thousands in heating costs. Plus we have government rebate programs where people can get up to $5000 back, making this really expensive equipment more affordable.
@memeofthepeople9147
@memeofthepeople9147 2 роки тому
Do you think the efficiency gained in a ground source system is worth it? If those air source pumps work at -30°c that covers pretty much all climates. I'm assuming the efficiency is much lower at those temperatures, and where a ground source heat pump would shine.
@Thunder-Sky
@Thunder-Sky 2 роки тому
glad to see that there are companies already working on getting units powerful to operate up here in Canada
@simonac688.
@simonac688. 2 роки тому
I also been in the heat pump biz for 30 years now and now seeing hpumps evolving in the wright direction mostly the Asian technology sadly American products are lagging badly in cold weather ...i tried them all and fix them all and of course instal them all....trane,lennox.york...oh nearly forgot Carrier greenspeed the best in this category BUT ? and the most impressive are mitsubishi ZUBA its worth every dime... some made in China & design are also to consider cause of pricing ( moovair) from Master dist. i dont recomend ground source hpumps cause of cost... ( wells) for home instals but for commercial yes...👍 Mtl Qc...
@OWENROTHLERNER
@OWENROTHLERNER 2 роки тому
@@memeofthepeople9147 1 time excavation down 12 feet, or wells drilled using simple truck, and you get a line with year round temps. It's worth it. Even with a mitsu inverter
@memeofthepeople9147
@memeofthepeople9147 2 роки тому
@@OWENROTHLERNER awesome, thanks for the reply
@kitchentroll5868
@kitchentroll5868 2 роки тому
In the 1960s, my aunt and uncle lived near Colorado Springs and had two "cutting edge" (for the time) innovations: 1) Recursive air ducts under the foundations of their home to provide cool air for summer and 2) A solar chimney to draw the cool air from the ducts into the house during summer and provide heat in winter. I well recall my uncle boasting that he paid less than twenty-five cents per day for electricity. My nine year self was amazed by the blast of heated air I felt when my uncle demonstrated the way it all worked. Sadly, theirs was the only house I have ever seen in the USA with a solar chimney. I saw dozens of buildings with solar chimneys in Nepal and Bhutan, and it's a good bit colder there than most places in the continental USA.
@boonstein9949
@boonstein9949 2 роки тому
never heard of either "recursive air ducts" or "solar chimney". What are they, and how do they work?
@LordDecapo
@LordDecapo 2 роки тому
I want a video on these 2 topics now lol
@kitchentroll5868
@kitchentroll5868 2 роки тому
@@boonstein9949 Recursive air ducts for cooling are basically pipes that start on the shady side of the house (the north side in the northern hemisphere), they drop down several feet into the earth, then run back and forth several times, go up a small distance, then repeat the back and forth. This go on in layers until emerging above ground and attaching to the house's duct work. There are usually vermin filters on both ends of the recursive duct to prevent snakes, rats, scorpions, etc, from gaining access to the house interior. How long and how deep the pipes need to be depends on your local situation, things like water table, soil type, etc. A solar chimney is situated on the sunny side of the house. It is kind of like a solar water heater in function and is sometimes does double-duty for that. Imagine a chimney that is more wedge shaped with the sun-facing side having a glass panel over a steel sheet that has been painted black. The sun heats up the steel and air between the steel and glass, which naturally rises, then by using different baffles, the air can be used to inject hot air into the house or diverted to the roof to work as a siphon drawing cool air from the recursive ducts through the house. There used to be a "e²" (PBS series) episode, "The Druk White Lotus School-Ladakh", on UKposts that covered some of this in detail. I tried locating it, but only found exerpts, not the full episode.
@x--.
@x--. 2 роки тому
CONNECT THE TECHNOLOGY! please. and thank you.
@aidengray3998
@aidengray3998 2 роки тому
@@kitchentroll5868 Both of those sou d cool as hell.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 2 роки тому
Reverse cycle air conditioning has been the standard in Australia for a while now, but there is also a growing trend to using heat pumps for hot water systems over traditional gas burners or resistive electric heaters. Heat engines are just too good to not use for any heating or cooling applications these days.
@vinquinn
@vinquinn 2 роки тому
Just be sure your hot water system draws air from outside, otherwise you gain no advantage in the winter.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 роки тому
Yes it sits outside our houses here in the rain and sun. Usually they are about 200Litres so imagine a cylinder like your upright air compressors outside homes. Where i lived about 5 years ago it would get very cold almost snowing and the heat pump just works like a fridge, it has a refrigerant and uses heat from the atmosphere to help heat the water. Very good, never didnt have boiling hot water but i prefered gas for hot water, instant on systems made by Rheem Australia. Gas is very good at heating water super quick and. no storage just turn the tap on and 5 secs or so and. its steaming hot. We also have solar hot water here a tank that sits on the roof with what looks like a solar panel attached, the water trickles thru the panel internally and gets super hot. Free hot water, most systems have an electric booster element, but very rarely needed as the sun gets hot here. Been around for over 40 years. Had one on an old house growing up get so so it exploded, as the pressure release got stuck. sent steam and water everywhere with a huge bang, just dented the roof a little.
@computerjantje
@computerjantje 2 роки тому
heat pumps to get hot water are often falsely advertised. When the cold side of the system is inside your house, it just takes your warm air from your house which cools down your house and your house warming system has to work against that. The costs of this are left out of the advertisements for heat pump hot water systems.
@Unsensitive
@Unsensitive 2 роки тому
@@vinquinn these really should be one system. Anytime you're running AC, you could use the "waste" heat for your water. Anytime you're heating, just redirect some to the water. Having a separate system costs more to produce, and operate. You could even wrap in the refrigerator/freezers into the systems. This would limit placement, but I think it'd be amazing. Ovens... Probably more of an issue.. the temperature gradient there may be a bit much and reduce the efficiency to the point cost would be excessive for the tiny savings.
@ajcoach
@ajcoach 2 роки тому
@@Unsensitive Mitsubishi has Multi Room with Hot Water Heat Pump Systems
@chrismccrea6822
@chrismccrea6822 2 роки тому
I've been watching you videos for a while now, and I really appreciate all of the effort and expertise you put into them. You have a very broad minded way of presenting information to make it understandable by a good majority of people. I can tell by this video in particular that you truly care about our planet and would like to see some changes, and regardless of what critical comments come about regarding your opinions, I think it's important to acknowledge the deeper meaning of this video. So thank you for doing what you do, I love the videos you create. Please keep it going. You're making a difference.
@KittenoftheBroccoli
@KittenoftheBroccoli 2 роки тому
I've been a fan of this channel for a while and I'm almost certain it's at least part of the reason I work for an HVAC company today despite having gone to school for biochemistry. I'm just an air duct cleaner right now, but the company I work for is gonna pay for me to get my NADCA certification so I can work on a broader range of issues and I just wanted to say thank you for making these concepts easy for me to understand, if only on a rudimentary level.
@echognomecal6742
@echognomecal6742 Рік тому
How's your certification journey going? :)
@adilatif8345
@adilatif8345 5 місяців тому
Biochemistry is kinda close to development of heat pumps, you should start your company
@android927
@android927 2 роки тому
Earlier this winter I discovered that the central air conditioner in the house I moved into 2 years ago can be run in reverse as a heat pump. I literally would have had no idea were it not for your videos.
@android927
@android927 2 роки тому
@@justinwong3521 No, my home has electrically resistive baseboard heaters with individual thermostats in each bedroom, as well as one that controls all the heaters on the first floor and another that controls the basement. It's really convenient because i can use the heat pump to set a baseline temperature for the whole house, but can (for example) turn up the heat in just my bedroom if there is a particularly cold night.
@android927
@android927 2 роки тому
@@justinwong3521 Unfortunately it's not perfect. The heat pump is the type that produces a lot of vibration when it defrosts, so i actually had to program the thermostat that controls it to turn it off during the 8 or 9 hours that i am actually asleep in order for it to not wake me up at night.
@alanhilder1883
@alanhilder1883 2 роки тому
Just a simple correction. An air con IS a heat pump in both directions.
@android927
@android927 2 роки тому
@@alanhilder1883 Well technically yes, but there really isn't a specific term for a heat pump that is pumping heat into a home in the same way that "air conditioner" refers to one that pumps heat out of a home.
@Preske
@Preske 2 роки тому
@@android927 could that be resolved with some kind of dampening
@xWood4000
@xWood4000 2 роки тому
There's been some changes in legislation in Finland so you can build geothermal heatpump wells in a lot of places. With permission you can even drill the geothermal wells on city property instead of your own if it's not in the way of other infrastructure
@aapelikahkonen
@aapelikahkonen 2 роки тому
This. Geothermal heat pumps are amazing once their obstacles become non-existent.
@drkastenbrot
@drkastenbrot 2 роки тому
@@aapelikahkonen I am a little worried about implications for the groundwater. Air to water heat pumps are much less intrusive.
@Gabu_
@Gabu_ 2 роки тому
@@drkastenbrot What implication? There shouldn't be any.
@Alecwang123456
@Alecwang123456 2 роки тому
Interesting solution would be a municpal form of geothermal heatpumps. The city installs a massive heat exchanger underground and individual homes and buildings then tap off from that.
@testadumed7035
@testadumed7035 2 роки тому
@@Gabu_ What happens when you drill a lot of holes everywhere in the ground? And cooling it down.?
@zzhhcc
@zzhhcc 2 роки тому
When I first heard this thing in your video called a “heat pump”, I was so _pumped_! I immediately started to search this hidden gem that can heat my home more efficiently, and I realized…that’s what I have always been using. I was born in a eastern country and now living in another one and “heat pump” is almost the only form of “air conditioner” I know, and it’s definitely the most common one I see in every place I’ve lived in.
@tintinaus
@tintinaus 2 роки тому
Yeah, in Australia we call them reverse cycle or split system air conditioners. I suppose it's a case of different names for different climates depending on what it will be used for the most.
@FrederickStark
@FrederickStark Рік тому
@@tintinaus split system refers to the noisy condenser unit is physically separate (or split) from the blow-y part that you enjoy inside the house. AFAIK we only use reverse-cycle to talk about heating with an aircon
@d3xbot
@d3xbot 2 роки тому
Can confirm. I live in Georgia (USA) and my parents' house has 3 heat pump units with a backup electric resistive heating element (that to my knowledge has only been used once - when the installers tested the system). My apartment also has a heat pump. It's smaller in size and on the older side, but it keeps me nice and toasty when the temps dip below 40 here. While I don't often get to air condition the outside (since my downstairs neighbor keeps their place hot year-round and the heat seeps up into my unit), I'm glad that the few times I do are more efficient than using other space heating techniques :) One of my coworkers was renovating his house and asked the HVAC installers for air conditioners. The installer refused and gave a few reasons to install a heat pump instead. He's been happier with it than he was with his old HVAC system with separate heating and cooling.
@TanisHalfE1ven
@TanisHalfE1ven 2 роки тому
I have to say, the UKposts algorithm (and the release timing) on this video is impeccable. I just got an HVAC inspection on a house I am in the process of buying, and they are telling me that there are leaking coils and that the whole system will need to be replaced in the next year or two. They are giving me quotes for a like sized gas based furnace, but because of this video I am going to have to see if I can afford a heat pump instead. Great video!
@joebass5163
@joebass5163 2 роки тому
In late December 2021 I was quoted three traditional central ac and gas furnace systems to replace my 30 year old system. A low price, mid price with variable speed, and high price with variable speed. The middle option also had heat pump written next to it for an additional $700. After mulling it over I went with the heat pump option and I'm glad I did. I do have a nat gas furnace for cold days below 40 or 30 or even 20 depending on the crossover point.
@joebass5163
@joebass5163 2 роки тому
My system is a Daikin Fit 3 ton heat pump dual fuel.
@OneMoreTank
@OneMoreTank 2 роки тому
I diy installed a Mr Cool 4-5 ton heat pump last year. It was a lot of work, but it was so worth it. The thing works awesome (and looks cool lol) and only cost me $4000 for the whole system. It's so quiet I can't even tell when it's on unless I'm right in front of a vent! Don't know what professional installation would cost but I'm sure it would still be less than a traditional system.
@picklerix6162
@picklerix6162 2 роки тому
You have to be careful who is performing those inspections. A service technician told my friend that the coils on both HVAC systems were leaking. When I looked at it, one system was working normally and the other was only .5 lb low on refrigerant.
@fidikvien7682
@fidikvien7682 2 роки тому
do NOT rely on heat pumps as your only source of heat
@hwbehrens
@hwbehrens 2 роки тому
When it was time for us to replace our old HVAC system, a gas/AC combo unit, I chose a heat pump in large part due to the information provided in your older videos. I thought you might want to know that your calls to action actually effect change.
@ranger178
@ranger178 2 роки тому
did they mention the efficiency of air conditioning is lowered by choosing heat pump option, so it cost more to air condition your house?
@drew.168
@drew.168 2 роки тому
@@ranger178 I can say anecdotally that this is not the case (for me) the offset of electricity vs gas is pretty much a wash. And again, I can add alternative electrical sources to my house further reducing the cost of operation.
@avamander.
@avamander. 2 роки тому
@@ranger178 In a lot of areas, you need both heat and cool, so dual-mode is better than something that only does only one job.
@striker6967
@striker6967 2 роки тому
@@ranger178 According to what? Heat pumps are available in all the same SEER ratings as any standard air conditioner. There's no need at all to take an efficiency hit unless you intentionally go for a worse than equivalant unit.
@ranger178
@ranger178 2 роки тому
@@striker6967 when i bought an ac unit the company i was getting it from said the same unit with heat pump capability would go down 2 seer over a unit that just did air conditioning and it cost a couple hundred more in price i already had separate gas hot water heating system which is dirt cheap and hot water is more comfortable than forced air here so it made no sense to get a heat pump and cost more for air conditioning which is what i primarily wanted it for
@jamessherman7797
@jamessherman7797 2 роки тому
Thank you for your informative heat pump video series. They have been most helpful as we were deciding to install mini split unit heat pumps in our Pacific Northwest home this past fall. While ours is not a high end unit good for colder temps, rather just standard base model, we have used the heat pump most of this winter. Supplemented with our older gas furnace only coldest days/nights, below freezing. We installed them for air conditioning but found the dual use most helpful as the natural gas market was changing during our installation.
@CasadeLindquist
@CasadeLindquist 2 роки тому
Your enthusiasm for heat pumps warms my heart with a COP of at least 1.75 at 5 degrees F! That is one unofficial industry standard for what qualifies as a “Cold Climate ASHP”. I work for an electric utility in northern MN and part of my job involves trying to get customers to adopt ASHPs, particularly for customers with electric resistance heat. With over a million subscribers, you are literally doing my job better than I could ever hope to, haha. In addition to our own efforts, we help fund and work closely with the "Minnesota ASHP Collaborative" which is an organization that works to accelerate market adoption of Cold Climate ASHPs through research studies, contractor training, and homeowner education. In short, there are teams of people working to achieve the goals of this video, and on their behalf I say “thank you” for your support! Living in a region that usually occupies a few slots on most "Top 10 Coldest Cities in the US" lists, I can safely say that if it works here it will work anywhere. Most winters the Weather Channel sends someone to do a live report so the rest of the country can gawk at how unfathomably cold it is. We have made huge investments in testing and proving this technology because we do not want to promote something to our customers if there is a chance that it will fail them, and I can tell you that it works and works well. As you know, there is always a giant asterisk next to any claim involving homes, energy, and the personal preferences of these silly creatures we call “humans”, but assuming you have a competent HVAC contractor there is an ASHP solution for every home, even in northern MN where we expect nights below -20F and daytime highs under 0F for multiple days every winter. But of course, those days are the exception, and even here it is easy to meet 80% or more of a home’s annual heating load with an ASHP. Some additional resources you might find interesting: (Just search for these so I don't have to put in links) -Cold Climate Air Source Heat Pump Field Assessment (a CEE research study from 2017 with performance graphs at low temperatures and cost comparisons) -NEEP Product Listing - ASHP (NEEP provides a database of cold climate ASHP equipment with ratings at 5F and below.) -Minnesota ASHP Collaborative (some general info and case studies)
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 Рік тому
HAD A HEAT PUMP for 40 years. Never been cold in my house. Yes it has a “backup” called resistance heat but it doesn’t turn-on very often. The modern pump can generate heat even below freezing.
@nomms
@nomms Рік тому
I'm about to buy a place in the Twin Cities and was looking into options to cool my house, funny you mentioned the ASHP collaborative. Was just looking at their site.
@TheAlmosted
@TheAlmosted 2 роки тому
Canadian here, we installed a heat pump unit 2 years ago, and it give way enough heat output in the winter for most days. we do have a few days in a row that can be around -40, but we still have our resistive heating backup for those days. My parents were sceptical that it was really using less energy than the resistive heaters, and didn't know if it was really good to keep it working in winter, but I showed them the numbers, and they never asked again. Since more than 99% of the electricity where I am comes from renewables, I'm pretty happy about the negligeable carbone footprint we produce to keep warm.
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus 2 роки тому
Same here, installed our heatpump unit 10 years ago and it has never failed us. Our house is newer and was built with resistive heating only so it ended up paying for itself after a few years.
@AngeVPV
@AngeVPV 2 роки тому
I am in Manitoba. I have a gas furnace and no AC yet. Would a Heat Pump be useful for me as a supplemental heater in Winter and as Ac in summer?
@AngeVPV
@AngeVPV 2 роки тому
@@KekusMagnus what is resistive? Is it electrical?
@TheAlmosted
@TheAlmosted 2 роки тому
@@AngeVPV yes, resistive heating is basically passing electricity through a heating wire (usually called a resistance in electrical jargon)
@varno
@varno 2 роки тому
@@AngeVPV yes get one of the Mitsubishi high performance ones, they work as an AC, and should let you turn off the gas heating most of the time.
@BensEcoAdvntr
@BensEcoAdvntr 2 роки тому
Electric grid nerd here. There's still an unresolved issue with heat pumps in cold climates when it comes to backup resistance heat. The record low for Chicago is -25F, which would mean that everyone would need to use a ton of resistive heat in those very cold, albeit unusual, circumstances. The grid today unfortunately cannot support that level of usage by everyone without a major curtailment (read rolling blackouts). Folks who design, build, and operate the grid are in the exact business of "but sometimes" in order to try and get as close to 100% reliability as possible within the financial constraints set out by regulators. That's not to say heat pumps are bad or don't work or whatever. They do work and they *are* a good idea, even in Chicago. But to say that it won't require grid investments in terms of new generation or transmission or demand response is not quite accurate. The good news is that everyone *won't* be switching to heat pumps tomorrow, so it should be possible to do upgrades over an extended time period. I'm all in on heat pumps; currently have a heat pump water heater and headed towards HP heating in the next few years. I just know you're a stickler for accuracy and nuance, so I think this is an important point to discuss.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
It is because of the good news in your second paragraph that I didn't explicitly mention it here as an issue in need of solving. I did allude to it by mentioning that we can't switch everyone over to resistive heat, but also made clear that we could build the grid to do that if we wanted. Regardless, before this issue comes to a head we are probably going to find out that there are heat pumps available which will perform well at -25° f. Already Fujitsu can attain a COP over 2.5 at -15°F, and I'll be discussing that model in the next video. Also, as I said, while it would be ideal if people could maintain their home at 70° during conditions like that, I personally don't think it's unreasonable if that's not longer possible. A couple days in a chilly home every few years seems OK to me. But another option which I intend to discuss is that, for backup heat, I actually don't think propane is that bad of an option. If everybody had a couple of propane bottles like for a grill and had some way to safely use that for home heating, perhaps we can get the best of both worlds when things get exceptionally cold yet without the need for methane piped all over the place. I'm not opposed to fossil fuels being used in cases like that, especially since with such little need it could potentially be synthetically produced. There's a lot we can be doing, but bottom line is more pumping more now
@brunes007
@brunes007 2 роки тому
I live in Canada. It gets a hell of a lot colder here than Chicago. Cold weather heat pumps stay efficient to -10 to -15 degrees Celsius. After that it will augment with a heating grid. There is not actually as many days and time below -10 in a winter as you think. My house also has a lot of insulation, which is CRITICAL. Insulation trumps heat or cooling any day of the week. Largest issue in most US homes is you guys have no freaking clue when it comes to insulation, most homes in the Bay area have basically paper thin exterior insulation. We have lived here with heat pump as our primary source for 6 years now in a 2000 square foot home. Our last home was only 1000 square feet... Yet my energy bill has gone down by half. That is what insulation and efficiency gets you.
@mustang123408
@mustang123408 2 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections do you have a P.O. Box I think I have some cool LED lights you will find interesting and useful.
@jeffhall768
@jeffhall768 2 роки тому
You're forgetting about the 200 million electric cars and trucks everyone is suppose to buy tomorrow too lol. And all of it is magically going to be run from wind and solar and it'll be 100% reliable hahaha
@covoeus
@covoeus 2 роки тому
If I understood the video correctly, heat pumps can still heat your home at -25F and below, even without resistive heating. It just takes longer duty cycles, and thus more energy than it would take a furnace to provide the same heat output. No space heaters needed.
@narcoti
@narcoti Рік тому
Howdy, Been following your channel for some time now and I really appreciate your level of detail in your videos and I would like to say that I enjoy your content immensely. With that being said, I recently went through a transformation with heating and cooling in my house. When I purchased the house it had a Hydronic heating system and a 10 seer trane air conditioner from 1999. While this was actually really efficient, it heated my house with the gas water heater that cost about 30 a month in the winter. I average a trend of 27KW a day in the summer of electrical usage. I went to upgrade, with cost in mind only switching to a heat pump and a normal gas water heater made financial sense. I will update when in the winter, but with the 14 seer heat pump I purchased, my energy usage in the peak (daily) of summer went from 27KW to 18KW. This is huge, I paid around 5200 for the heat pump and air handler combination, my gas usage is also down , but I can only measure that in dollars (around 4 dollars so far a month I will know more next month).
@rexcadral3468
@rexcadral3468 2 роки тому
Since I'm getting quotes for heat pumps right now, this video was incredibly helpful in dealing with picking the right vendor, the right specs, and disproving the opinions of the installers, most of whom are telling me to keep my natural gas heat here in New England. Thank you!
@MooseTurder
@MooseTurder 2 роки тому
At 1.8 k comments if you ever actually see this, we installed a mini split last year as our bedroom was at the end of the line for the central air and summers were toasty. Found ourselves using the heat function quite a bit this winter and barely firing up the furnace. Mind you we rarely see below freezing temperatures around here, so it worked out great. Your videos helped me understand what the mini-split heat pump is, and helped me decide to go ahead with it.
@JoshuaStranger
@JoshuaStranger 2 роки тому
Well, I saw it. Just so you know 👍 AND I read it.
@chaitanyakulkarni6416
@chaitanyakulkarni6416 2 роки тому
Read it
@meatbleed
@meatbleed 2 роки тому
✔️seen
@genghischuan4886
@genghischuan4886 2 роки тому
heatpumps come with an emergency heat strip to offset what they cant do lol. Ive had heatpumps and them alone are absolutely garbage in winter. dont be a liar
@sd0753
@sd0753 2 роки тому
@@genghischuan4886 my system doesn't have heat strips and my house hasn't gone below the thermostat set point.
@pedrofelck
@pedrofelck 2 роки тому
It's so crazy to watch this, I live in the southernmost state in Brazil and it gets quite cold (below 0ºC) in here and most of my life I thought that was how air conditioning worked, you can set it to cold or hot, it took me a while to discover that there are air conditioners that just cool, but the most shocking discovery to me when watching this series was to find out that it is actually more efficient to heat the air like this, I always thought it was an "undeveloped country" thing to heat spaces like this because it wasn't done like this in Europe and the US. BTW, our electrical system is mostly based on hydroelectric plants, but in months that don't rain too much we turn the thermoelectric plants on and get a "yellow" or "red" flag on our bill depending on how much non clean power we are getting (not only because it is more expensive to use coal but to discourage waste).
@martinschroederglst
@martinschroederglst 2 роки тому
Sounds pretty developed to me!
@pedrofelck
@pedrofelck 2 роки тому
@@martinschroederglst I wish, it's probably because we were late to the "heating party", prior to that we only had fireplaces and space heaters. Central gas is pretty rare in houses over here.
@Slot1Gamer
@Slot1Gamer 2 роки тому
yeah sometimes usa is a little in the dark ages, wait till they hear about self filling bath tubs
@MrVTeta
@MrVTeta 2 роки тому
Houses in Brazil are very rarely properly insulated though.
@Poldovico
@Poldovico 2 роки тому
It's a "got rich early" country thing to use outdated technology because it's what was set up in the 1800s or whatever.
@jeanh9641
@jeanh9641 2 дні тому
I am on the UK. Our government gives us £7500 towards getting a heat pump fitted. Energy company Octopus Energy fit them at cost. I will only have to contribute £3000. This price includes everything required including 12 new radiators. They will then at my request disconnect me from mains gas. I generate electricity from 16 solar panels and have a home storage battery. My very small contribution to reduce carbon dioxide levels. Loved the video and it is brilliant to put out this message worldwide although some countries are way ahead of us.
@sehealey1639
@sehealey1639 Рік тому
Love this video, the information and the engaging delivery. Thank you! Just on the verge of replacing my 12 year old gas furnace with an air source heat pump and electric air handler combo, subsidized under Canada's Greener Homes program. This video gives me even more confidence that I'm doing the right thing!
@sbukosky
@sbukosky 2 роки тому
EXPERT HERE! I'm a factory technical representative for these and other HVAC items. Your video was exceptionally good and I'm sending the link to coworkers. There are some details missing, however, and they are important. That centers around sizing the system and defrosting. Without getting lengthy, the COP and HPSF ratings are for a condition that is very dynamic. I will simplify it that defrosting will occur in outdoor temperatures approximately 47 degrees, plus or minus. The need for how long the defrost and the frequency of it depends on both outdoor temperature AND the humidity. During defrost, the heat pump is now in cooling mode except the condenser fan is turned off. So, it is now removing heat from the conditioned space to melt the frost on the condensing unit coil! So, best efficiency is obtained in climates where the outdoor temperature is seldom below 47 degrees or so and defrosts don't occur. We have huge VRF systems where to not have defrost losses, the condensing unit is indoors, and gas heaters are used to keep the ambient warm enough to do so. In some cases, water source VRF systems are used and condensing gas boilers supply heat for the heat pump. In the summer, the cooling water is cooled through cooling towers on the roof. As to sizing the system. In Arizona, New Mexico, Florida, and the like, the cooling capacity needs are plenty for winter heating. However, in the north, heating needs can be two or more times the needs for cooling. So, while the heat pump may operate, it will require auxiliary heat. The rule for sizing a system is to size it for cooling needs. If sized for heating and that is larger than cooling needs, cooling performance WILL BE DISAPPOINTING! Mainly, temperature swings and very poor dehumidification control. Finally, Honda had an experimental home natural gas-powered fuel cell that was intended to provide the electrical needs of the home and charging an electric car. That seems to be a fascinating idea. I've not heard more about it. Have you?
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections 2 роки тому
Here's a question I want to throw back at you; how do variable-capacity systems change this? From my research, US manufacturers are largely not embracing the advances that the Asian manufacturers have. While it is typically the case that oversizing an AC system can lead to poor cooling performance, my 1.5 ton mini-split can simply run the compressor more slowly and act like a .5 ton, or even less. Defrosts are a challenge, yes, but when you look at heat pump performance lists that are available out there, it's companies like Fujitsu, Mitsubishi, LG, and Daikin that are making the best-performers. Carrier has one series (Infinity) that adopts those technologies. The other domestic players pretty much don't produce anything but basic systems as far as I can tell, and their best-performing models all appear to be rebadged imported mini-splits.
@ericscherer7468
@ericscherer7468 2 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections actually Lennox produces a 25 seer system that has variable speed compressor/motors throughout and can control the speeds of them accordingly. Also I know rheem/ruud produces at least a 20/22 seer variable speed system as well. The domestic companies are producing them but at the typical total cost of $18,000-25,000 it’s just not very popular with consumers overall.
@a64738
@a64738 2 роки тому
I live 100m from open unfrozen ocean and my heatpump would use so much electricity when temperature dropped below about -7c with wind coming from the ocean that I had to turn it of to save energy and use 100% normal electric heating. With dry wind from inland the heat pump worked perfectly fine saving energy down to -20c. This fact that air to air heatpumps do not work well when it is cold and high humidity is no one that tells you...
@MadMadCommando
@MadMadCommando 2 роки тому
On your point regarding the Honda fuel cell. Fuel cells still involve a combustion reaction, and therefore a natural gas fuel cell will emit CO2, which is something to avoid
@BackYardScience2000
@BackYardScience2000 2 роки тому
@@TechnologyConnections so what you're saying is, he must work for one of those companies who doesn't embrace the better way of doing things and he is speaking of that technology vs what you're talking about? I'm just trying to understand the gist of what's being said. Much of this is way over my head. Lol! Thanks to the both of you for the wealth of information that I didn't know that I was interested in until right now.
@dallynsr
@dallynsr 2 роки тому
Having now installed nearly 125 heat pumps, can say honestly they bring a new comfort level that my customers never imagined, with a lower monthly bill. (properly and optimally installed of course)
@iggman18
@iggman18 2 роки тому
Where were the installs?
@tristfall1
@tristfall1 2 роки тому
(TLDR: optimally set up properly is super important. ) Just had a heat pump installed at the end of last winter. I'm in PA so it gets pretty cold here, but only rarely. I don't have any pricing to compare it to as it was an install in a new house purchase where the old heating system had died. But that said, now that I've gone through a winter, I think it was not optimally installed. I have a number of systems to monitor power usage in the house, and woke up one morning in january to ~35,000watts of power usage in the house, and that seemed to be the norm for ~1 hour every morning (and dropping down to still around 10,000 watts during the day). I've been digging into it more recently and think it's being way overly aggressive at switching to coil heat (I assume for that warm air feel) when it's below ~40f outside. I intend to do some experiments the next time it's sufficiently cold out.
@lal12
@lal12 2 роки тому
Does that lower monthly bill include the investment cost? Also how does a heat pump brings higher comfort?
@trueppp
@trueppp 2 роки тому
@@lal12 Depending on your setup, it heats room way more evenly than lets say baseboard heating.
@slowfudgeballs9517
@slowfudgeballs9517 2 роки тому
That's quite impressive that you can have a lower bill. Hope this tech spreads rapidly if that's the case.
@cadmium-ores
@cadmium-ores Рік тому
I found this channel through The Create Unknown and I’m highkey obsessed. This is content is scratching my exact itch as a pro-technology efficiency-conscious new homeowner. The first upgrade I made after moving in was a hybrid water heater and I LOVE the thing. It’s in the boiler room in the basement, so it performs just fine in the winter. But speaking of that boiler… yeesh, it’s an old oil boiler on its last legs and we’re gambling on it even making it through this winter, although so far so good. My family thinks I’m insane for wanting to switch to electric (for cost reasons in our area) but for environmental reasons I’d love to make it financially feasible for myself. I’d already been planning to talk to some HVAC profs about heat pump options in our area, but this video series is super helpful so I have a better picture of my options and how to talk about them.
@davidcrosby8552
@davidcrosby8552 2 роки тому
Yes! More heat pumps America. Have you ever looked into the "Earthship" houses? They are amazing half buried passive solar heated, but they can also passively cool themselves via underground air passages. Would be interesting to see a Technology Connections point of view on them.
@MaximC
@MaximC 2 роки тому
They have a lot of disadvantages. Same houses, just with good insulation - it's all that's needed.
@charlie_nolan
@charlie_nolan 2 роки тому
I think they’re kind of like concept cars, where they’re cool in theory but very expensive and somewhat impractical
@gangieful
@gangieful 2 роки тому
Look into strawbale construction. Can still be passively heated and is extremely well insulated. Much better option in many places.
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 Рік тому
PASSIVE HOUSE. It’s a term for a standard house, but so well insulated it doesn’t need a heating system. You don’t need fancy buried homes; just very good insulation. (heating is still included for backup.).
@TheDewok12
@TheDewok12 2 роки тому
Hey just so you know, you're videos are in a special "always watch immediately" category for me. You're one of I think three channels like for me. Keep up the good work.
@oktayyildirim2911
@oktayyildirim2911 2 роки тому
Just letting you know, "you're" is a contraction for "you are". The word you're looking for is "your".
@wolfcoool2053
@wolfcoool2053 2 роки тому
Same
@johnhammon703
@johnhammon703 2 роки тому
@@oktayyildirim2911 uh oh....the spelling police are here! Lol, nobody cares about proper spelling in a youtube comment. Get a hobby lol...
@sammiller6631
@sammiller6631 2 роки тому
@@oktayyildirim2911 Just letting you know, "You are one of I think three channels" is the same as "You're one of...". They were correct and you're wrong.
@Validole
@Validole 2 роки тому
@@sammiller6631 Just letting you know, they were correcting the first sentence, not the second.
@Sythemn
@Sythemn 2 роки тому
I’m in Georgia. And I had multiple HVAC techs tell me “Heat pumps don’t work below 40F”. Just made it through this winter with an inexpensive 14 SEER unit and a single 700w space heater without the house getting below 64 including a couple nights around 15F outside. A 19 SEER variable speed unit with 25% more capacity and we never would have noticed it was cold outside.
@ShenghongZhang
@ShenghongZhang 2 роки тому
I think the main reason America is not using heat pump/mini split is because the HVAC techs. Like most labor works, they refuse to change or learn new stuff. Installating mini split in Asia is free or very cheap. But here in America they either refuse to use it or give astronomical quote. Because so much work to run electrical lineset blah blah. Well I've installed 3 3-zone systems and one ducted traditional AC myself. Mini split for the win
@bohanger6315
@bohanger6315 2 роки тому
@@ShenghongZhang As one of those HVAC techs in a colder climate, the reputation of poorly engineered and implemented systems is working against the adoption of these systems now. I can also say the VRF side of the industry is becoming more popular in new construction, however a single leaking flare connection can bring an entire school or nursing home to -10 degrees. You can play the redundant heating argument as many times as you want but its a cost game. I'm factory trained on LG equipment and can attest that not very many techs want to learn to troubleshoot or service these systems.
@audvidgeek
@audvidgeek 2 роки тому
how many times did your auxiliary heat coils kick in though? ...most of the time, you will never know...your electric bill will tell you however. Your heat pump is not heating your home if the auxiliary heat is picking up the slack
@Jamesthemerciless
@Jamesthemerciless 2 роки тому
@@ShenghongZhang No doubt
@littleshopofrandom685
@littleshopofrandom685 2 роки тому
@@audvidgeek I'm in Canada, had a heat pump since 2003. never once failed even at below -30c until the compressor went in 2020. No aux resistive coils. As long as you get one that is correct for your climate and building, it should be fine. Resistive backup is probably smart, but I never needed it.
@jehuda100
@jehuda100 2 роки тому
You do great presentations that are well thought about, thanks. For your next video I suggest that you also look at Mrcool DIY heat pumps. They overcome the main problem of connecting the refrigerant line sets by using prefilled refrigerant lines with their special connectors that just require 2 ranches to tighten. Currently Mcool DIY systems can go up to a 4 zones. I installed in my house two such systems with a 27,000 BTU 3 zone and 36,000 BTU 4 zone systems. I never installed any such system and 1st one is working great and heated my house in the winter at a fraction of the cost of oil heating. The 2nd one I will be finishing in the next week. Currently Mrcool are not the most efficient but are pretty good with SEER of 21.5 and HSPF 11 for the 36,000 BTU with 4 zones. For heating they work down to -13 F (-25 C) and for cooling up to 122 F (50 C) outside air temperature.
@DatNguyen-sh8fv
@DatNguyen-sh8fv Рік тому
I have just install 3 mini splits in my home. They are working great in my living area which is Oklahoma City. We dont have too many days temperature goes down below zero, but whenever it comes to that extreme weather we have our old furnace system to be kicked in while I let those mini splits remain off until the normal temperature weather comes back. And that plan works flawlessly, I have no complaint at all. Even though my mini splits heat pump are not top tier quality units. Electric and Natural gas bills are the same with those years before I installed the mini splits system, but I save ton of money instead of install or repair the old HAVC system which come with expensive ductwork. The cost to install 3 mini splits system was about $2500, and I can install them myself without hiring a professional team which cost a lot more money. For the estimate to repair or replace my old HAVC system would be around 10 grands plus 2 grands of ductwork.
@agentnuget
@agentnuget 2 роки тому
My 2 cents on the backup heating: Regardless of fuel source, you should ALWAYS have a backup heat source. Things break, and you don't want your only heat source breaking when it's 10 degrees outside.
@steviebboy69
@steviebboy69 2 роки тому
My old house gets cold overnight without a heater, and I dont have central heat anyway but in the morning it could be around 4.C cold but not freezing. It is an old 50s timber home AKA weatherboard, and I live in a colder part of Australia coldest it got to here was around -7.C.
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 2 роки тому
@@steviebboy69 if it's an old house, it might be designed with some passive temperature controls, though degraded insulation.
@dominicvilleneuve171
@dominicvilleneuve171 2 роки тому
Another option, if you don't want to (or can't) install a completely separate back-up heating system, is to buy a generator and run that to provide the electricity you need when the city power goes down.
@steviebboy69
@steviebboy69 2 роки тому
@@matthewparker9276 an old 1950s weatherboard aussie house has no insulation in the walls just the lapped timber exterior, attached to the stud wall with the plaster walls on the inside. and no insulation under the floor either, just in the ceiling. Brick Veneer as they call then fair a bit better. old houses like this are glorified tents.
@michaelwright2986
@michaelwright2986 2 роки тому
@@steviebboy69 I went from the UK to Armidale (1000m altitude, 250km from the coast) in the 1960s, when Australian houses had NO insulation of any kind. That first winter was the coldest I've ever spent.
@tehlaser
@tehlaser 2 роки тому
I’m glad you mentioned the issue with gas leaks that arise because we’re piping it all over the place. I’d never thought of how heat pumps might be able to reduce that problem.
@startedtech
@startedtech 2 роки тому
It's a shame 'cheap' electric range ovens are garbage. It is frustrating how long it takes to boil water or preheat the oven. Wish I had a gas one.
@jajssblue
@jajssblue 2 роки тому
Yes! This is a huge problem with NG that is not being addressed and 15% of NG emissions. If we don't have to transport NG, then there is less chance to leak. Put the powerplants right at the wells and put the energy into the grid. No pipes, no leaks.
@fwir711u2
@fwir711u2 2 роки тому
It's too bad that electric will never be as reliable as propane or natural gas
@jajssblue
@jajssblue 2 роки тому
@@fwir711u2 Only if consumers / voters allow it. This will also greatly change with adoption of residential solar and batteries.
@Zraknul
@Zraknul 2 роки тому
@@startedtech if you want to boil water faster, get a portable induction element, and then you're beating gas.
@nobodynemoq
@nobodynemoq 2 роки тому
I'm always stunned by the amount of effort you put into research and then into creating the video. Your videos are really long, but not a single second is boring. Keep up the good work! 😎
@G8YTZ
@G8YTZ Рік тому
Hi! I just discovered your channel today and have enjoyed 3 of your videos already. You are 100% right about heat pumps. I'm in London and am in my 12th year of my Mitsubishi Ecodan Air Source Heat Pump, the only area I would pick you up on is that a modern Combined Cycle Gas power plant, as used in the UK, is actually about 60% efficient. In the UK an ASHP over the year averages at a claimed COP of about 3.5. Our lowest temperatures in London are about -5C. My ASHP drives an underfloor wet system, so probably achieves in excess of the claimed COP of 3.5 as the flow temperature is low and inversely proportional to the outside temperate. It heats the hot water too on a high temperature hot water cycle. Solar thermal provides hot water for about 8 months of the year. For heating swimming pools (in the summer) COPs of 5.5 are easily achieved so make massive sense. Cost wise I have a Tesla PowerWall and currently pay 11.1p/kWh for electricity (24x7) plus 20p/day standing charge. That's a special deal as Tesla export the energy from the PowerWall at peak times and charge it from my solar and also on off-peak electricity. As a comparison mains gas would cost about 9p/kWh plus standing charge plus safety maintenance at today's inflated prices and as you say a boiler is about 90% efficient, so an ASHP is much cheaper to run on this tariff. Installation costs are not that different for a new build house, especially when you consider you don't have to pay to have the gas main run to the house. That's exactly what I did at my house.
@jbtl1130
@jbtl1130 2 роки тому
Great video, I'm from the Netherlands where there's a big push for so-called hybrid heat pumps at the moment. They're installed as an add-on to a gas furnace, and are designed to take care of heating 90-98% of the time. Only when it gets really cold (which to be honest, is nothing like Chicago) the gas furnace adds the extra heating power required. I think it makes a lot of sense to widely adopt these, since the electric grid will not be pushed to its limit or needs to be updated for just a couple of hours each winter
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 роки тому
Central air conditioning US homes with gas heat is installed in exactly the same way. For plenty of people with this setup a conversion to hybrid heat pump should be fairly cheap with only a few valves and a new controller.
@paulhaynes8045
@paulhaynes8045 2 роки тому
How do these systems provide hot water? Do they just input heat to the boiler, so the existing system does the rest?
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 роки тому
@@paulhaynes8045 The systems being discussed here heat air directly instead of using water and radiators. However, there are similar systems which work for water-based heating systems. They would be installed in the same loop as the existing boiler. Danish UKpostsr Morten Hjorth has such a system and has some videos discussing it on his channel My Playhouse.
@sonntagskind84
@sonntagskind84 2 роки тому
Hi there. I think a "hybrid"-solution is not the perfect way. Because you still have to have the infrastructure for gas. And you have to maintain the burning-devices. Just go the electric way. I got a house from 1995 which has an Air/Air-Heatpump since 2014 and we installed Solarpanels in 2019. What should i say...We just need to buy electricity from Mid-November to End of February. But we have to heat from Mid-September to usually End of May. Thats the way it should be on houses: Well isolated, Solarpanels on the roof and a heatpump. And in the summer we could even save more gas, because the powerplants dont need to burn gas for electricity then (or less) or you use it for A/C. And if you own an electriccar... I know, that all costs money. Lots of. But once you electrify EVERYTHING, and use your roof as a generator, you will benefit the most: No more fuel to pay, no more gas. And only a third or less for electricity. We do not have an electric car for now, but we do not pay anymore for electricity and heating. Selling gives us 11eurocent/kwh and costs 30eurocent/kwh here in Germany. We sell 3times more energy to the grid than we buy. Our energybill for the whole house is zero. ZERO! We arent emitting stuff to the atmosphere anymore. And selling electricity to the grid even decreases the emissions from other persons energy use. And i think, thats the way. Even when you have an oil-heating system, or a gasburning-one. You do not have to replace it! Just buy and install a small heatpump and a few solarpanels. And whenever there is enough energy from the roof: run the heatpump. And save oil/gas. 👍🏻 Over the years it will pay itself and it will then safe you money. Damn, its so effective that you could buy it with a credit and pay nothing at all! (depends on country etc pp) But here in Germany, i dont get it, why sooo many people dont do it! I really dont understand.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому
@@eDoc2020 But if you use forced air heating, and your only source of heat is a heat pump, how do you get hot water?
@05milmachine90
@05milmachine90 2 роки тому
I put in one of these Mitsubishi units last month and thought I was reading something wrong in the manual concerning its heating effeciency at -15f. It really is quiet, efficient and most importantly effective at what it does.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 роки тому
Welcome to the future buddy hahaha I seriously cant understand how you guys have all gone so long without it.
@swunt10
@swunt10 2 роки тому
Can you tell me which exact model of the Mitsubishi heat pumps you have?
@WilliamPickering
@WilliamPickering 2 роки тому
I've recently installed two of them. So damn happy with both.
@eamh2002
@eamh2002 2 роки тому
Yeah the heating power is nuts compared to the energy usage :)
@trem0lo
@trem0lo 2 роки тому
I have a Mitsubishi Hyper Heat unit in my Chicago studio. The thing is a beast even on the coldest days, I love it. Not having a gas bill saves me a lot of money. The only downside is that it defrosts every few hours when it’s below freezing which puts it out of commission for ~2 minutes. On the coldest days you can feel a slight temperature drop during that time.
@franciscoruiz5181
@franciscoruiz5181 2 роки тому
This is such a great informative video! We are fully decommissioning oil heat in our New York house and installing two hyper heat ducted Mitsubishi heat pumps. I'm a little anxious to see them perform next winter, but I am pretty excited overall!
@trendmassacre8423
@trendmassacre8423 Рік тому
Not a good idea removing your furnace, I would definitely keep it just in case. Seriously, it wouldn't hurt.
@williamwchuang
@williamwchuang Рік тому
​@@trendmassacre8423 oil heat is filthy and disgusting. The oil tank in the basement smells. It's terrible. I'd agree with you if there were natural gas but oil is crap.
@MrSamush
@MrSamush 2 роки тому
Thanks for a really nice video! You should also look into Air Heat Exchangers. Up here in Scandinavia the most common heating installation in newbuilt houses in the last years has become a combination of Air Heat Pumps and Air Heat Exchangers to minimize the loses when ventilating the house.
@varshilkata
@varshilkata 2 роки тому
I found this video very interesting because all of the places that I've lived in for the past 22 years have always been heated with a heat pump. Literally all of my life. From my experience they just work all of the time without fail and that makes the lack of use of heat pumps in the US very intriguing to me.
@Patrick-857
@Patrick-857 2 роки тому
Americans are quite insulated from what the rest of the world is doing.
@gammaxi1275
@gammaxi1275 Рік тому
It would be cool if you could do a segment on the current refrigerants. CFCs are banned, HCFCs mostly phased out, would be cool to see a good dive into why those are banned/phased out and what currently available ones have taken their place and how they compare.
@webluke
@webluke 2 роки тому
I installed a mini-split heat pump system in my office last year. It worked great in the summer, cooling during the 95F days. This winter, we had a few nights of 0F, and the heating kept working but ran more often. I do keep it warmer when cooling and cooler when heating. The propane price was already high, and we had to get more middle winter as we are figuring out the new places. That was not a nice bill. Only a few winter fill-ups and I can pay for the main house getting AC and Heat Pump installed. Paired with solar at some point, I cant see keeping propane as our only heat source. One note, last I had heard from guys in the power plant industry, the new GE turbines claim 30-64% efficiency not sure if that was with heat recovery steam generator (HRSG), I know one project I worked on it was more efficient to create electricity to run motors with HRSG than to direct drive the systems using natural gas. It's also too bad we are scared of old nuclear technology and not the new fail-safe high efficient nuclear steam power generators. The new ones are small self-contained systems that can be deployed locally for power use and have a life span of up to 100 years.
@jeffreythurnau6796
@jeffreythurnau6796 2 роки тому
Thank you for the very informative video. I live in the Seattle are. Bought a house in 2014 that was built in 1987. Replaced the original gas furnace with a heat pump and high efficiency backup gas furnace. Replaced old gas hot water tank with gas on demand hot water. Replaced all incandescent lights with LED. Installed an 8 kilowatt PV grid tied system on the roof. Replaced two gasoline powered cars with two Tesla BEV’s that charge 95% at home. Added extra insulation in the attic. Even with gray, rainy Seattle weather our PV system generates over 60% of our annual electricity usage. Our natural gas company has sent status report emails stating that our gas usage is only 20% of their average customer. It seems like our experience aligns with your video’s content.
@Gunnberg85
@Gunnberg85 2 роки тому
And the final bill for all of those changes, along with the cost to maintain them was?
@TheGuruStud
@TheGuruStud 2 роки тому
@@Gunnberg85 More than he'll ever save with those pos teslas. His climate is mild nearly year round. It doesn't require much heating or cooling. This guy is smoking crack. Instead of abandoning that hell hole and making out like a bandit with property values, he doubled down investing in something that will never pay off.
@2dfx
@2dfx 2 роки тому
@@TheGuruStud tell me you live in the south without saying you live in the south
@SimuLord
@SimuLord 2 роки тому
I live in Kent, and the lowest temperature this year was what, -5 C (23 F) or so, and then only during that snowstorm we had? It seems like most of the winter is above freezing, so we're even more efficient than most northern locales for heating efficiency. And before climate change started stirring up weird summer weather (45 C outside of Vegas or Death Valley just seems wrong), we didn't even need air conditioning, just open a window and turn on a fan.
@ChristopherHallett
@ChristopherHallett 2 роки тому
I've got an extremely efficient Australian-made (ActronAir) heat pump ("reverse cycle" ducted refrigerated HVAC) AND rooftop solar at my place. It's absolutely fantastic.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 роки тому
If your an aussie as well.... ugh dirrr not like its new mate, In ww2 my grandfather was working in a remote site with a heat pump airconditoner. Theyve been around for a lonnnng time.
@SirDragonClaw
@SirDragonClaw 2 роки тому
I have the same one, its fantastic. And the ability to set the temp of every room separately via my phone or Alexa is also very convenient.
@rybaluc
@rybaluc 2 роки тому
I doubt it will work well in -15C/5F temperatures. You coukd recognize efficiency in low temperatures too + less noise. Australia is bad comparison. You could boil egg on roof in the night during the Christmas night there.
@Etacovda63
@Etacovda63 2 роки тому
@@rybaluc yeah, thats because christmas is in summer....
@theleeoverstreet
@theleeoverstreet 2 роки тому
@@SirDragonClaw A central heat pump that allows different temperatures for different rooms? What is this magic? This is something I need.
@MooRhy
@MooRhy 2 роки тому
I want to add heat storage to the backup solutions. A big water tank can store enough energy to get you through those cold days and doesn't really cost anything. It also means that the heat pump can run indepentently from the heat demand. That way it can get around peak demand times with high prices and high grid load.
@rybaluc
@rybaluc Рік тому
Such systems are regularly used in central europe and it is not considered as posh solution. Even poorer families or cabin owners are using that. You can buy nice furnace or fireplace with nice flames visible but with heat exchanger connected to your heatwater accumulation tank and circulation for rest of the heating system. Not even with heat pumps but with wood heating as well. You will burn wood and then slowly release excessive heat you've accumulated previously.
@kozmizm
@kozmizm Місяць тому
I love you brother. I always love to see you get nerdy on interesting topics! You've had a place in my mind, and my heart, for a few years or more!
@TheNitram24
@TheNitram24 2 роки тому
Your last couple videos have convinced me to switch to a heat pump from my ancient boiler/baseboard heating system instead of replacing the boiler with a modern one. So far I'm loving the multi-zone mini-split heat pump system.
@spadress
@spadress 2 роки тому
Any recommendations for brands?
@Justin-vr5zn
@Justin-vr5zn 2 роки тому
@@spadress the company you chose and the quality of installation is 10x more important than the brand. you can have issues with any brand, make sure the company you pick will be there when you need them, if you have problems. your labor warranty is likely tied to the installing company unless you are purchasing a separate labor warranty. Even then, most companies dont want to do warranty work for another companies install unless they are desperate for work. Ask around and try to find someone who had issues but it was handled in a great way. Then ask them what brand(s) they sell and why. there is honestly very little difference between most brands, many share most parts and components. I forget the exact number, but something like 30 brands and 90% of equipment is made by 8 Companies. Its also common for units to not have a Logo Sticker until you buy it, then the supplier puts the label on through a flap in the box before they bring it out to your truck depending which brand you buy. One unit might be sold under several brands. (its crazy but sometimes a "premium" brand may cost more than their "offbrand" when all thats different is the sticker! Seen this at many suppliers.)
@GoodwinOgbuehi
@GoodwinOgbuehi 2 роки тому
Thank you for doing this update. Because of your previous heat pump videos, I was set on only getting a ground source heat pump, but they are prohibitively expensive to install here (in Scotland). Watching this has me willing to start crunching the numbers on air source, as I'm desperate to not have to get another boiler. I'm looking forward to the install video.
@crono331
@crono331 2 роки тому
in scotland, unless your house is super well insulated, you have at least double glazing, and most of all floor heating, or in alternative dirt cheap electricity for the next 20 years (lol about that), forget about heat pumps unless you like cold houses. i live in switzerland, i have done the math based on years of logging data from weather, heating requirements and so on, i went for oil at the end.
@xiphosura413
@xiphosura413 2 роки тому
@@crono331 That math can only be based on electricity and fuel prices, as the video said, fuel vs energy costs taken into account, the best decision financially could be very different, and is usually locally determined. Unless a country is having an energy crisis, heat pumps should turn out far cheaper for the same running cost, due to their ability to "exceed 100% efficiency". All fuel heating systems are below 100% efficient, so it only makes sense to use (assuming your fuel system is 100% efficient!) if the ratio of electricity price vs fuel price is higher than the COP of a prospective heat pump, which is generally between 2 and 4, meaning your oil must be something like 1/4 the cost of electricity, which can only be an extremely local situation! If a heat pump leaves your house cold, you either got too small a unit or desperately need to upgrade your insulation, as any heat source will have to output more heat!
@crono331
@crono331 2 роки тому
@@xiphosura413 "so it only makes sense to use (assuming your fuel system is 100% efficient!) if the ratio of electricity price vs fuel price is higher" exactly. but the world is big and places have vastly different conditions. last oil i bought i paid 65 cent a liter (24 of which tax...) , with electricity at 25 cent per kWh. therefore i would have needed a CoP of 4+ in order to get cheaper thermal kWh. now things have changed and oil is 150 cent a liter and a heat pump would have been better, but unfortunately i dont have a crystal ball. and oil could again drop a lot like it did in 2008. at least with oil, i can stock up 4 years worth of it in my tank. electricity, you are in the hands of suppliers and governments. "you either got too small a unit or desperately need to upgrade your insulation" i have a big house, live in a cold climate, and all insulation that i practically could do without tearing down the house is done. large heat pumps are very expensive. i did the maths, HP needed a lot of best case scenarios to work out. oil, i am still using oil i bought very cheap 3 years ago. overall, i saved a lot of money already by going for a new oil furnace. unfortunately, in these unstable times, it makes really no sense in investing large sums for something that i know i have to stick with for 20-30 years. and btw. my old oil furnace was installed in 1973, lasted me almost 50 years. zero chance a heat pump lasts that long and people will find out they have to replace it in 10 or 15 years because the electronics that failed in it are no longer in production.
@xiphosura413
@xiphosura413 2 роки тому
@@crono331 I have no doubt that you made the best choice at the time for the costs and options available, my main point is that your case is a very specific one, and to rule out the possibility of an electrical heat pump system across all of Europe in general (from Switzerland to Scotland at least going by what you said!) because of a single isolated set of circumstances, is somewhat disingenuous. You said yourself how current prices give a very different picture even for you, and while yes, fuel and electricity prices can be very volatile, when you look at the big picture, as time goes on, fuels are going to peak higher and come down less and less. Electricity on the other hand across most of Europe could be harvested from someone's roof, and renewables (with cheap surplus power production periods) are ever increasing. As for heating ability, glad to hear your place is all insulated up, honestly more than any particular heat source insulation is what will make the real difference. and on the topic of reliability, technology connections addressed that in his other videos far better than I could here. Costs of systems capable of managing a large house is also something to consider, ducted systems (the best for it from what I know) are becoming increasingly cheap, and units with a COP rating of 4 (or greater, just not in the snow) too. My family installed a heat pump unit in our house a few years ago for what would now be considered a rip-off price, which runs predominantly off our solar and essentially costs us nothing. No problems with it as of yet either, but we'll see if it can last more than a couple decades without expensive repairs. We also got an electric oven and cooktop to replace gas ones as bottled gas prices were getting ludicrous. I do live in Brisbane, Australia, so we definitely use it for cooling way more than we ever use it for heating. But it goes to show that apart from the extremes of cold climates where fuel happens to be extremely cheap, they should be on the cards, certainly going into the future, and they're a no-brainer if you have a solar system. One shouldn't just dismiss them outright for so many people based on a single anecdote. Scotland in particular is getting increasing amounts of wind surplus power as far as I know, so as for electricity prices there, they're set to fall.
@drew.168
@drew.168 2 роки тому
@@crono331 I live in the Midwest where winter temps drop to 0F to 20F for weeks at a time and in 20s and 30s the other. Even when it was -20 last year.I have a air source heat pump and it works just fine without even using the emergency heat strips. The cost vs gas heat is about the same. I could also add alternative energy to my house and it would cost even less then gas.
@FilledHunchbacks
@FilledHunchbacks 8 місяців тому
2 things. 1. I just found your videos, and have been watching the heatpump section. I found your dishwasher stories, and watched all of those first. Anyway, I have enjoyed watching your hair grow. Thats all on that point. 2. The more useful thing, is that I have come here for a solution on cheaper cooling, and was surprised to hear most people are concerned about heating costs, as, in Ohio, my heating costs are nominal.
@beechFPV
@beechFPV Рік тому
Well never thought I’d have watched the whole video. But I stayed and it’s great. I’m looking at heat pumps and the scop has surprised me. Thanks for the info. Looking for the other videos in the series now
@animator75
@animator75 2 роки тому
Nice video! I live in Sweden and even though we have quite cold winters all types of heat pumps are very common here and so are roof top solar, I think that is a winning combination.
@Varibeca
@Varibeca 2 роки тому
I came here to say the same, but for Helsinki. It is very common to see the heat pumps abd solar panels.
@moonrock41
@moonrock41 2 роки тому
ACC:Xess, you live in a country where rationality dominates in the domain of public policy. It's the opposite in the US. We'll do the wrong thing for decades or even centuries before deciding that it's time for us to change.
@2BuckFridays
@2BuckFridays 2 роки тому
18:10 Thank you, I like this point a lot. Most homes already have no backup heat source, so why is that only now an issue? With the extra efficiency of heat pumps on all other days, having to bust out the space heaters a few times isn't a big deal. And like you mentioned, tons of places will never face this obstacle. I live in Georgia, and even basic heat pumps will work year round.
@MegaEmmanuel09
@MegaEmmanuel09 2 роки тому
I'm in GA as well, and for the (newer) side of my parents house that uses a heat pump, we never really need to change the thermostat out of the 70-77°F range. It's only when we have cold snaps or abnormally hot summers where we'd *need* to set it outside of that range.
@nasonguy
@nasonguy 2 роки тому
Yep. I've never seen a home with two primary heat sources. Just one. Most people rely on space heaters. I've seen too many new homes where people don't even have a space heater because they just trust the new HVAC install. Fun aside, about a decade ago we went through a pretty darn bad cold snap here in Arizona, and it got down to about 0F. In some areas (including where I lived) due to poor planning, the natural gas lines froze or became unreliable. Thousands of homes with natural gas furnaces were without heat. My house with it's really crappy 90's era heat pump had heat. Granted it had to run the restive "emergency" heater. But I had heat while thousands around me didn't. Including those who just love to deride heat pumps as dangerous and prone to failure, while claiming that they'll always be able to burn gas...
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому
The reason it becomes an issue is that gas heaters are almost always able to supply enough heat, while there will be a few days every year where a heat pump won't (unless you live in a warm climate or are buying one of the brand new ultra-expensive units). So you will definitely need a backup. That backup could just be wearing two sweaters inside and shivering, but for most people it's going to be space heaters. (And to be fair, space heaters are still really cheap, so it's not exactly a huge deal.) In my experience, people without heat pumps have no backup source of heating of any kind, including space heaters. In my 30 years with gas heating, I have never had the need for one.
@jamesphillips2285
@jamesphillips2285 2 роки тому
@@EebstertheGreat Had the furnace go out at -30C one year. Used the electric oven as an emergency space heater. I reasoned as long as the door was closed, and I did not set a stupidly high temperature, it was reasonably safe. You are essentially using the outer walls of the oven as a radiant heater at ~80C or whatever the steady state surface temperature is.
@EebstertheGreat
@EebstertheGreat 2 роки тому
@@jamesphillips2285 Yeah, I feel like every electrical device is an emergency space heater. Some are just really tiny. My friends have used an electric stove for the same purpose.
@btfrenchy
@btfrenchy 2 роки тому
Your videos are amazing. I started with the dishwasher/detergent video and never stopped.
@ethanturner2958
@ethanturner2958 2 роки тому
My dad is the business development director at one of the largest industrial heat pump companies in the world (remaining nameless for anonymity). He is working with multiple cities and companies, mainly in Europe, right now as they ever increasingly realize this fact. Especially Germany.
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill 2 роки тому
The heat pump in my all-electric house (dated 2006, since that's when my house was built) has resistive heating elements (heat strips, like you said) in the indoor part of the system, in case it gets too cold for the heat-pump to generate enough heat. You can definitely tell when those things kick on -- our electric bill goes up by a good 25% or more in those months. It's amazing to me that these new heat pumps can still draw heat from the outside air even when the temperature is only 5 degrees F. That's a relatively recent development, I'd imagine? My 16-year-old heat pump definitely cannot do that. If it drops below about 28 to 30 F those heat strips kick on (the thermostat has an "Emergency Heat" indicator when they do, so you can easily tell). But I live in northern Georgia, so it's pretty rare that we drop below freezing at all, let alone below 28 or even 30 F. We might spend a grand total of 14 nights a year with temps that low, and maybe 5 or 6 where it stays below freezing for 24 hours in a row? When this system craps out (hopefully not *too* soon, but these things usually don't last more than 20 years, so it's gotta be in the not *too* distant future, I'd imagine) I'm definitely going to pay attention to the COP rating of the new one we'll be buying. I'd bet we could get one that wouldn't even need resistive "emergency" heat -- dropping down to 5 F in this neck of the woods? Unheard of. (I just Googled it. I was born in April of 1970, and since then there have been four -- FOUR -- times that the temperature has dropped below 5 F here, and the most recent one was way back in 1985. LOL I think we could put out a few space heaters for a few hours on those days, if something like that ever happens again.)
@andyruse4670
@andyruse4670 2 роки тому
In northern Georgia myself atm. Knowing how the houses around here are built, I’d imagine a few million in water damage if it were to drop to 0*. No water shutoff for outside faucets, water in the garage as opposed to a conditioned space.
@LMacNeill
@LMacNeill 2 роки тому
@@andyruse4670 oh yeah - that’s definitely a thing here. When it gets down into the 20’s the news will remind everyone to drip their faucets. The folks that don’t? They get tons of water damage. But they’ll only forget to drip their faucets that one time. 😂
@gregorymalchuk272
@gregorymalchuk272 2 роки тому
Your heat pump may be completely turning off the compressor and only running the emergency heat. You can reconfigure your system to run the compressor continuously under heavy load and only use the emergency heat as supplement.
@mr.monitor.
@mr.monitor. 2 роки тому
@@gregorymalchuk272 if your running r22 its probably about break even$ between hp and em heat at 15 degrees in most cases. With older systems, using outdoor temperature sensors and cutting out heatpump at 15 and below, heat strips at 50 degrees and above~ will usually get you through most situations. The cold air blowing for hrs with the usual droop of 2 degrees between auxheat and hp hitting target temp leads to long periods of luke warm air blowing on you making you feel cold. Sometimes its worth actually being warm.
@martinwinzig4951
@martinwinzig4951 2 роки тому
I have AC which work till -13F but it need 1.6Kw to make 2.5Kw of heat, problem is that when everyoe will be using Heatpump electricity consumption will skyrocket in cold days and there will be a blackout..... PS 2.5Kw is enought to heat our small house which have 128square meters, with 1.64coots insulateon on roof 1.14foots on walls and foundnation... With good windows s and recuperationn .
@xWood4000
@xWood4000 2 роки тому
Italy has apparently had a successful heat pump replacement program where the government payed 110% of the installation so there was a bit left over for the homeowner. There's always corruption and stuff in Italy related to things but this but it has still improved Italy's GDP and made it more environmentally friendly
@NoConsequenc3
@NoConsequenc3 2 роки тому
corruption is bad, but no point complaining about a good thing lmao
@eljefeamericano4308
@eljefeamericano4308 2 роки тому
I found your channel pretty recently, and I've been impressed by how good you are at explaining the things I've seen you cover. You got my subscription when you dared to say the words "heat pumpdate", though. Nicely done.
@DarkwaterV2
@DarkwaterV2 2 роки тому
Looking forward to your next video on this subject. Your timing is impeccable!
@EMBer3000
@EMBer3000 2 роки тому
4:40 The absolutely best way to use that gas would be to use it in a combined heat and power plant. In that case you'd have 40% as electricity and another maybe 40% as district heating (for hot water and heating in winter), if people outside the range of the district heating network used heatpumps you'd get about as an efficient system as is possible.
@nobodynemoq
@nobodynemoq 2 роки тому
in my country there are numerous power-heat plants, that produce electricity and send boiling-hot water through the insulated pipes through the whole city. This makes them much more efficient at burning coal (yeah, in Poland almost all electricity comes from burning coal) - and this combined with good fumes filtering in big power plant than nonexistant filtering in individual stoves is really good.
@miles9922
@miles9922 2 роки тому
You're talking about Cogeneration, which achieves an effective ~70% efficiency. Combined Cycle plants, which create steam with the waste heat and run it through a steam turbine, also top out at ~70% efficiency in low ambient temperature. Cogeneration is cool, but the infrastructure demand would be insane to implement.
@buttonasas
@buttonasas 2 роки тому
@@miles9922 What's the difference between "waste" heat and not "waste" heat? They both make steam to spin turbines, right?
@miles9922
@miles9922 2 роки тому
@@buttonasas Combined Cycle involves primary generation using combustion turbines (large "jet engines") and use the super hot exhaust (waste heat) to generate steam that goes through a steam turbine.
@EMBer3000
@EMBer3000 2 роки тому
@@miles9922 Nope, I'm talking about a system with a primary boiler burning wood chips and/or garbage, producing steam for a turbine to produce electricity and then using the condenser to heat water that is then pumped out to ten thousand buildings to produce hot potable water and winter time heating. This is called a CHP plant, combined-heat-and-power. My city has one of these, it uses mainly garbage and has a state of the art scrubbing system on the smokestack to remove any nastiness from entering the air. We also have two backup boilers that only produce heat connected to the system and are fired up when the temperature drops below what the primary plant can support.
@saccaed
@saccaed 2 роки тому
Worth pointing out that even in cold environments where a heat pump can have issues, those issues can be mitigated by pulling air through a ground loop. Most places that experience ambient temperatures below what a heat pump can operate with have ground temperatures that are reliably above 40F year round available a mere few feet down into the soil.
@goigle
@goigle 2 роки тому
isn't that the ground source heat pumps mentioned in the video?
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 2 роки тому
@@goigle yes, though I do believe a glycol coolant loop and liquid-liquid exchanger is used instead of air, much smaller pipes and trenches that way.
@kjyost
@kjyost 2 роки тому
@@goigle I think he was referring (at the start of the video) to the ones that are drilled way down (40-100'+)
@rybaluc
@rybaluc 2 роки тому
Problem is that not everywhere you could do it. Also feet is not much. Ideally meter or more Keep in mind that flora not likes cooling of their roots. You vould literally kill green stuff by ground collector. Boring down deep hole could be as expensive as heatpump itself if not a bit more. Also prohibited if there is unstable soil, water wells etc. The whole problematic is complicated and even air-water system might not be allowed due a noise level.
@alakani
@alakani 2 роки тому
@@rybaluc 'few' is used with plural, countable nouns to mean ‘some’. it usually means 3-8ish. 3.28ft = 1m
@xldkxnewyorker8914
@xldkxnewyorker8914 Рік тому
I put a PTAC with a heat pump in my 700sqf home. I live in the south now, so it doesn't get too cold, but have a resistive heater/ac to take up slack in cold/heat snaps. It keeps my pipes from freezing, and keeps me warm for a fairly cheap price. Purely electric home and diesel backup generator for power outages. Converted the propane tank to a diesel storage tank as well.
@EmblemParade
@EmblemParade 2 роки тому
I'm a heat pumper in the Chicago area, too. It's a superb experience. For the very cold days I use a few space heaters and they totally do the job. My house is well insulated -- you can get various rebates for improving your insulation, making it much more affordable than you might think.
@SteveSmith-ng2dv
@SteveSmith-ng2dv 2 роки тому
Heat Pumps have been widely used for heating in Europe for as long as I remember. One of the main selling points here, that was worth mentioning, is that they can be used for both - cooling and heating, (hence known as just Air Conditioners here) and thus saving you a lot from having to install two separate systems, especially on new buildings. Having had (and still have) both - AC and gas fired radiator based heating I must admit that radiators bring much more comfort than air conditioners do, however, although more expensive to do, heat pumps can be used to heat water and than respectively radiators for much more comfortable conventional heating.
@hassegreiner9675
@hassegreiner9675 2 роки тому
People have varying memories - as a kid I was sent to the Fuel Monger to buy a hektoliter of cokes (a sack full) to our single stove; no one thought of heat pumps at that time (late 1950's) ;-)
@Tera_GX
@Tera_GX 2 роки тому
That answers a key question that was on my mind during this whole video: "Can these systems operate both ways for heating and cooling?" I'm glad you brought that up. I live in a place that hits all temperature extremes, and we could benefit from some new systems.
@grilledflatbread4692
@grilledflatbread4692 2 роки тому
@@Tera_GX Yeah they've been used in Asia forever. Japan first, and more recently China as wealth has increased. I have a Fujitsu heat pump from 12 years ago but it was kinda hard to get in the USA. IIRC the USA wrote really high COP requirements so the heat pumps couldn't be sold in the USA - When in reality they competed perfectly well with the central air systems we are used to in the USA. Good ol domestic protectionism....
@jubuttib
@jubuttib 2 роки тому
@@Tera_GX The whole reason why it's so weird to many people why these aren't already used more in the US is because they're effectively just air conditioners with a couple of extra bits in them. If everyone who has installed a new aircon in the last 20+ years would have installed a heat pump instead they could have both had the same coolness they've always enjoyed, and (probably) cheaper heating. Unless they're on something like district heating, which for what it's worth is absolutely fantastic to have if possible. Neither the tap water nor the hot water for the radiators uses up basically any extra electricity (apart from the controls and pumps running the whole system), just waste heat from nearby power plants.
@tempesttube
@tempesttube 2 роки тому
@@Tera_GX Huh, I didn’t realize that he didn’t touch on the cooling side. I guess it’s because this is a follow-up to his other videos, but it’s interesting that a discussion about heat pumps would make someone who isn’t familiar with them ask if they could be used for cooling. I never thought about it from that perspective. In his previous videos, he talks about the fact that the extra hardware needed to allow a standard air conditioning system to run in both directions really isn’t much. Of course, he goes into a lot more detail. If it interests you, I think that they’re worth watching.
@trolledyou7032
@trolledyou7032 2 роки тому
I've already switched, couldn't be happier. Got Toshiba penta splits inverter. Very cheap, and VERY efficient. My home is 3 floor around 200 meters square, with 10cm styrofoam isolation, and temperatures reached -10 degrees Celsius where I live on several occasions. In two years Inverter didn't suffer much. It inverts the cycle for about 10 minutes to defrost itself in like every 3 hours or so.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 роки тому
Jeesh i bet the toshibas were pricey. I import aircons into australia, and woudlnt touch the toshibas, far too pricey. Mitsubishi is the ones i grab. I can get a 4kw reverse cycle tropical rated so works up to guranunteed to 50 degrees celcius. for around $300 each.
@trolledyou7032
@trolledyou7032 2 роки тому
@@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi Where I live Toshiba is actually cheaper. I wish I could afford Mitsubishi, it's much better quality and with more features. My guess the prices varies mostly from shipping cost.
@thaddeusk
@thaddeusk 2 роки тому
I just replaced my natural gas furnace with a heat pump. Washington State has the third lowest price on electricity in the US, so it made sense to. I wanted to add on a central A/C for the summers, because I hate when it gets above 75 in my house, but due to the tight space where the existing furnace was, it was easier to fit in a new heat pump and add in a compact electric furnace as a backup. Our natural gas has also been pretty cheap, so I haven't seen much difference in heating costs from the year before, but I'm still happy with my purchase. I think I'll be even happier when summer hits and I don't have to worry about using window A/C units anymore :).
@Javrixx
@Javrixx 2 роки тому
New to the channel and loving the videos. Please never stop making them.
@jhenry48809
@jhenry48809 2 роки тому
I'm considering getting a heat pump for my house now after seeing this. Don't forget about electric blankets as an alternate heat source. I feel they are more efficient than a space heater as it doesn't need to heat an entire room/house for the heat to be effective at providing heat to us. Also I just heard at work yesterday that Tesla uses heat pumps in their vehicles, which now after your explanations makes a lot more sense.
@Ender240sxS13
@Ender240sxS13 2 роки тому
So the AC in literally every single car is a heat pump... They just can't be run backwards to do the heating, which makes sense since you already have a huge source of heat in the engine coolant which doesn't require any extra energy to run.
@Robbedem
@Robbedem 2 роки тому
@@Ender240sxS13 in electric cars they are used for heating. ;)
@seigeengine
@seigeengine 2 роки тому
I mean, all cars have heat pumps, basically, because they have AC systems. They just run off the engine instead of electricity. Electric cars use electricity to begin with, so... they also need a way to supply heat, whereas combustion motors can use the heat produced during operation to do that. It's definitely most efficient to warm a person and keep the building cooler, but with plumbing, you can't keep them too cool.
@drewcipher896
@drewcipher896 2 роки тому
My old Prius uses a heat pump too. It's great cause it heats up alot faster than my old car that got it's heat from the engine.
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi
@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 2 роки тому
Nooo not every car. No cars other than Electric lol a heater in most cars is just a radiator with a fan. It will not use a refrigerant to reverse and heat the air. It just uses spare heat fron the radiator coolant loop in the car to heat your car by blowing air over a hot pipe. I mean if you really wanted to be a dick about it and argue that a combustion engine is essentially an air pump like a compressor maybe its a heat pump but no Tesla uses electricity to heat and cool air.
@Nimta
@Nimta 2 роки тому
Wow, what timing. My family got our heat pump installation finished literally yesterday, after years of deliberation because we struggled to find a good contractor. I can already say it was a worthwhile investment, as we no longer have to keep several portable resistive space heaters running basically 24/7 to stay warm.
@leinad20002
@leinad20002 2 роки тому
Yeah these technologies are new to the States and aren’t as simple to install as traditional ac/furnace systems. Get 3 quotes minimum, be ready for high upfront cost that save you money in the long run.
@andrewhawkins6754
@andrewhawkins6754 2 роки тому
Doing the same very soon because my furnace is dead as of like 2 weeks ago.
@procrastinator41
@procrastinator41 2 роки тому
Congratulations
@323pocket
@323pocket 2 роки тому
I installed a mini-split AC/Heat pump in my house up here in northern MN last spring. The AC was great when we needed it in the summer. Then as it got cool we flipped the unit to heat mode. We ran it from September until the snows finally arrived in mid December. Saved us about 2 LP tanks worth of heating fuel over the winter. (roughly 1000 gallons) When we put up our garage I think we will be using at least one of these new units to heat that building. (in addition to a larger earth-buried line system)
@pwesiti
@pwesiti Рік тому
Air pump haver here in the midatlantic area. My hvac system was nearly state of the art when it was installed in 2017. I live in a trailer with not so great insulation… my auxiliary pump comes on when the temp gets down around 15 degrees outside. This happens infrequently. I’m very happy with my heat pump.
@tsbrownie
@tsbrownie 2 роки тому
Roughly 50 years ago, my parent's friends had a natural gas powered heat pump in their Midwest 4500 square foot house. In summer they kept their house very cold, in winter it was toasty warm. Their utility bills were much smaller than our 1900 square foot house.
@Ralith09
@Ralith09 2 роки тому
You mean a NG generators for their house?
@brylozketrzyn
@brylozketrzyn 2 роки тому
@@Ralith09 no, adsorption heat pumps. They were scaled-up gas-fired refrigerator (yes, they were gas-powered before electricity kicked in).
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 2 роки тому
@@brylozketrzyn you mean combustion compressor?
@brylozketrzyn
@brylozketrzyn 2 роки тому
@@heyhoe168 no. Adsorption compressor is driven by heat source - can be electric heater, flame or even steam boiler. It is not as much efficient as modern motor-driven compressor, but has zero moving parts
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 2 роки тому
@@brylozketrzyn Thanks! Just found it. Weird how it was available since XIX century and not exactly widespread up to this day.
@davidalarson
@davidalarson 2 роки тому
In my experience the ambient temperature around the external units of heat pumps can become much colder than the reported general air temperature especially if there isn’t much wind. So the efficiency can tank as they are operating in lower temperatures than expected. So placement of the external units is pretty important but often they are just put in the most convenient place for the installers.
@juliusfucik4011
@juliusfucik4011 2 роки тому
True, but typically, at least in Europe, the external units are about a cubic meter in size, which helps in heat exchange, but also allows for the installation of ridiculously large, slow turning fans. These are silent and still manage to create a good airflow. I have not noticed any cold air lingering near my unit. Only when it gets very cold it can actually cause some moisture to condense. This moisture will then build a thin sheet of ice on the floor. What I have done is make sure there is enough air flow by keeping the surrounding free of objects or vegetation. I have painted the nearby south facing garten fence element black. It should help heating the local air by trivial feel-good amounts. The one big problem I have with tje principle is that when you need heat most, the concept is most inefficient. In winter it barely gets by. In summer my hot water is free. That is a good thing, but I would wish there would be a unit that could cool down a specialized coolant just a little more to say -50 °C to increase efficiency.
@Steevo69
@Steevo69 2 роки тому
Ground source heat pumps are significantly more efficient, all it takes is a hole bored and the upside is heat stored in the summer can be used in the winter and excess heat makes hot water. I have a 4000 sq ft home in Montana that uses less electricity than a 1400sq ft home for heating and cooling on average. My average return per watt purchased is 4.3W of heating or cooling. The biggest downside of heat pumps Is the 2 or 3 phase is stupid expensive to run off solar or any form of battery system. And a large enough 2 phase generator is 7K used for emergency.
@shivermeshoes
@shivermeshoes 2 роки тому
@@Steevo69 have you tried connecting two motors to reach other, one running the phase of your source power and the other the phasing of the desired output? The electricity generated off the latter motor should be what you need
@protonmaster76
@protonmaster76 2 роки тому
True, that is mainly to reduce install costs. When we had our heat pump replaced we got them to put the outdoor unit in a better place. It did cost a bit more, but well worth it.
@wiredforstereo
@wiredforstereo 2 роки тому
Location is always important, always make sure installers install where you want, not where it is easy for them.
@benjermanshay8175
@benjermanshay8175 2 роки тому
Your videos are the reason my new home is built around a heat pump. Thanks!
@Doran.
@Doran. Рік тому
I gave this my 👍 after you said “heat pumpdate.” Then I watched the rest of the video. Great stuff! One challenge I wish you had touched upon though (maybe you do in the next video) is the need in many places of the world to upgrade the strength of our electric grid and electricity generation capacity. Without question, heat pumps are the most efficient way to heat our buildings from any form of energy, but having everyone use heat pumps in the future will specifically increase our electrical energy demand, especially on those colder days. This means, we need to invest in *MORE* wind energy (more turning, more now) and solar energy (more sunning, more now) and energy storage (more storing, more now) for this future to produce that electricity safely and reliably, and we need to invest in upgrading our electric grid so we can deliver that electricity to our buildings safely and reliably.
@tejing2001
@tejing2001 2 роки тому
I moved into a new place (northern US, we get plenty of snow here) most of a year ago, and was surprised, given the climate, to find the central heating was an air-source heat pump. I haven't had the slightest issue with it, though. Things have clearly improved since my knowledge on heat pumps was gained.
@revanmercury
@revanmercury 2 роки тому
Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. I live in a place that doesn't often get below 15C (59F) in the winter time but in those times having heating would be nice. Next time we upgrade our AC units we will get one with a heat pump function.
@timhossfeld7260
@timhossfeld7260 3 місяці тому
Great video, and agree 100%. Modern heat pumps are fantastic. One thing to note: air sealing and proper insulation is HUGE in how much energy a given house/building/space takes to heat and cool. Even a brand-new house is pathetic if simply "built to code". Older houses are pretty bad. We KNOW HOW to make very efficient buildings, and we know how to retrofit existing buildings to become more efficient. IMHO, doing so needs to be part of the solution. Combined with the magic of heat pumps, it is a double-whammy in energy savings. Perhaps a topic for a future video? Dig into it a bit, you'd be surprised to learn there are some builders currently making homes for the same cost as a "normal" home that use a fraction of the energy. A nice side bonus of these homes is they are nice and quiet inside (outside noises stay outside) and also really comfortable since there are no drafts.
@mattherndon9317
@mattherndon9317 2 роки тому
Awesome video! The 2.5 COP to match gas is actually even lower when you factor in leaks piping gas to your house. Exact on these leaks is hard to come by though so I accept that you just noted it. In your install video I hope you get one of those crazy cheap 15 HSPF 9,000BTU Gree units and at least mention the new window mounted heat pump that Gradient is about to release (it will truly be the easiest to install heat pump ever).
@Tomartyr
@Tomartyr 2 роки тому
I've been pumped for a return to this heated topic for a while.
@homestar92
@homestar92 2 роки тому
You hit on this a little bit in the video, but the "but sometimes" factor of this problem is a bit harder to find a solution for, in that when it's extremely cold, everyone will need their backup heat all at the same time. If the backup heat is electric, then we find ourselves in a situation where the grid needs to be able to support everyone in the area using resistive electric heat all at once, which would be very wasteful to build out when it will be used only in the rare extreme cases. The alternative option would be for the backup heat to be a gas furnace, but, as you mentioned too, this could introduce an added cost to families that will make them not want to go that route. Many utilities have a minimum that they will charge even for zero usage, so families would have to pay to keep a gas line active that they will only need a few days of the year. If there's no such fee in someone's area and the cost for zero usage is indeed zero, I think a gas furnace as the backup heat makes a lot more sense than resistive electric for the foreseeable future. True, resistive electric can become more "green" down the road, but realistically we aren't getting there before the next time that furnace will need replaced, so locally burned gas is still a better solution than purely resistive electric heat strips. Some kind of fossil fuel stored locally in a tank onsite could be an interesting solution, but transporting fossil fuels by truck is so laughably inefficient that we'd be wiping away a non-negligible chunk of the environmental benefits just accounting for the edge cases. But, that would be an easy transition at least in many rural communities where locally stored propane, oil, or some other fuel is a common means of home heating already. You could do a similar thing with something akin to Tesla's powerwall for homes with electric backup heat, but I'm not sure that manufacturing lithium batteries of that size and quantity to account for an edge case is a great idea. There's also the defrost cycle time that will require the backup heat, but the "but sometimes" factor isn't nearly as great there as it's very unlikely that a large percentage of homes will all be in defrost mode at the same time. All that said, and recognizing that heat pumps aren't without problems that we have to figure out how to solve, I still think there's very little reason not to have a heat pump installed next time anyone gets a new AC system, especially if the backup system is something that is appropriate for the infrastructure in their area. They *shoudn't* be significantly more expensive than an air conditioner. They often are, but that's an artificial markup. If everyone understood that heat pumps are just normal air conditioners with a reversing valve, it would be harder for manufacturers to inflate the price of a machine that does both.
@marsilies
@marsilies 2 роки тому
There is actually an advantage to overbuilding our green energy electricity generation, and that's because it can enable carbon capture. To offset the worst of climate change, we not only have to get to net zero emissions, but net NEGATIVE emissions, i.e. capture CO2 out of the air and make it inert again. On normal days, we could use the excess to carbon capture, then on days homes and business need more electricity for heat, temporarily halt the carbon capture. In other cases, smart grids + smart homes could mitigate extreme energy demand situations by shutting off power to a home for everything BUT the heater. This would likely be for worst case scenarios though, and hopefully only for short periods of time. For more rural areas we could maybe go back to wood burning for backup heat, since wood is theoretically a "carbon neutral" renewable energy source, if we can cut out all the CO2 production in harvesting and transporting it.
@leftaroundabout
@leftaroundabout 2 роки тому
@@marsilies unfortunately, in an extreme-cold situation with electric heating, by far the biggest part of electricity will be consumed by heating anyway, so there's not much to be won by turning everything else off. (Also, basically any electric device contributes to heating in the same way a dedicated resistive heater would.) Wood is hardly ok for everyday use (especially in cities) because of its unhealthy particulate emissions, but yes, it totally makes sense as an emergency backup in remote areas. Easy long-term storage, locally sourceable, and if worst comes to worst one can even sacrifice furniture etc..
@orad23
@orad23 2 роки тому
With the advent of all electric cars on the horizon the electrical grid needs to be revamped regardless. Feel like in the future everything will be powered by batteries and electricity.
@thomasa5619
@thomasa5619 2 роки тому
In Australia it’s common for people to just use 20lb gas bottles for their hot water systems. My parents claim the price of a swap and go bottle is about the same as getting a truck to come out to fill big bottles. (And I’ve never seen gas plumbed to houses) The same bottles can be used to bbq or whatever, I have a hose that connects the bottle to a gas torch for propane-oxy work. If someone has a gas furnace they could just keep it as a backup (the bottles may need to be kept somewhere warm to keep pressure up tho)
@hassegreiner9675
@hassegreiner9675 2 роки тому
Buy a Honda portable generator and a back-up resistive heater to save you from the worst case.
@christopherstone6962
@christopherstone6962 Рік тому
I have a 120V window heat pump made by Friedrich (the Kuhl model) and LOVE it! Window heat pumps look like an A.C. but can go in reverse. It’s not as powerful or efficient as a ductless mini-split; but all the mini-splits have to be hard-wired to your breaker box whereas a window heat pump just plugs into an outlet. Window heat pumps are pretty rare though. Amana makes a 240V window heat pump and that’s the only other once I found. Friedrich makes literally the only 120V window heat pump on the market. They say it heats when the outside is as cold as 37 degrees F, which is pretty rare for where I live (Los Angeles). It’s kept me warm in in the winter and cool even during brutal heat waves.
@JesperVad
@JesperVad Рік тому
@technology connections; It's always good to hear someone understands thermodynamics.
@loficampingguy9664
@loficampingguy9664 2 роки тому
The mention of good insulation is important, and I'm glad you did. My current apartment is brand new and came with a heat pump and what I can only assume is an electric backup heater. Been living here since mid-January in western Virginia, and not once has the backup heat come on. We've had some pretty cold days where two or three time it was almost zero, and still nothing. My apartment is very well-insulated, and that's helped a heck of a lot. Over the past week (currently late March) my heat has barely been running outside of a couple cold days. The normal temperature here and the apartment's insulation mean that the heat pump is crazy efficient right now. These sort of temperatures are fairly steady for the spring before it gets hot. A good heat pump and good insulation work wonders for a small living space.
@SuperLankowitz
@SuperLankowitz 2 роки тому
I had a 48,000 BTU ductless min-split system installed August 2021 in my old, drafty New England house. Air conditioning benefits aside in the summer, I was particularly interested in heating. Previously I was typically going through one tank of oil every 5-6 weeks running November to March (about 5 months), depending on how cold. This translated to 5-6 tanks per season, which at $500 or so per tank, translated to $3,000 or so spent on oil per year heating. Over the same period of time this year, with my heat pump I was able to cut my oil to just about 1.5 tanks, or about $800 spent on oil. That's $2,200 saved on oil. Over the same period, my electric bill went up about $175/month, or $1050. Net savings $1,150. With a savings of $1050 and a finance plan of $170/month, that means at an "average" monthly savings ($1050/12 = ~$87.50) the oil savings alone are paying for about half the system. Not bad, and I'm thrilled with summer AC (functionally central AC) and the reduction in oil burn. Love my system.
@Demdere
@Demdere 2 роки тому
Yey! Excited for part 3 :) thanks for putting this stuff out there as it's helping lots of people, myself included!!
@maikerugo
@maikerugo Рік тому
0:23 Thank you for saying this. Also, thank you with continuing to examine this topic.
@rolliebca
@rolliebca 2 роки тому
Lets hope that increased demand and volume of sales for heat pumps has the effect of reducing price and further increasing efficiency. Great video, and yes, this viewpoint needed to be emphasized. See you on the next one. Cheers.
@TheAruruu
@TheAruruu 2 роки тому
That's called "Economy of Scale". The more something is produced, the cheaper it gets. There's no need to hope for it, if demand and supply go up, price goes down. (please note this only applies to goods, such as heat pump units, and not to services or resources such as the fuel or electricity being supplied to your home)
@MrT------5743
@MrT------5743 2 роки тому
@@TheAruruu You said there is no need for hope, but then don't address both things he is hoping for. If you read his sentence he is hoping it to be cheaper AND efficiency being increased. There is no guarantee efficiency goes up, albeit typically is inevitable, but this part of his comment does not fit into "Economy of Scale".
@shingshongshamalama
@shingshongshamalama 2 роки тому
Why would prices fall as demand increases? If demand goes up, prices should go UP because profit.
@oldscratch3535
@oldscratch3535 2 роки тому
@@shingshongshamalama That's only the case if the supply can't keep up. If there is high demand, but higher supply then prices should fall or remain the same.
@TheAruruu
@TheAruruu 2 роки тому
@@MrT------5743 except that heat pumps are the way things are gonna go. the efficiency advantages are just too large to ignore. it's purely a matter of time. i will say that it's worth hoping that time is sooner, rather than later though. anyway, as adoption of heat pumps increases, prices will go down, and efficiency will go up because of competition. companies want their product chosen first, and to be the best that they can manage. all you need to do is look at history to see this trend repeat itself time and time again.
@hovant6666
@hovant6666 2 роки тому
Because of your video, I recommended my parents get a heat pump for a project. It can keep a large space at room temperature down to -25 Celsius outside because it's so dry in our climate that there's little moisture in the air to freeze onto the condenser
@IncroyablesExperiences
@IncroyablesExperiences 2 роки тому
I would be interested to know how much overconsumption is due to the fact that people with heat pumps can now access to A/C in summer while previously they didn't. It's a confort increase for sure but also an energy consumption increase compared to furnace. Nice video for engineers as always!
@christianhumer3084
@christianhumer3084 Рік тому
I don´t think that´s a large issue. If it´s hot, there is often the possibility to produce power with the sun. And thats even cheaper than Gas Power Plants.
@pong9000
@pong9000 Рік тому
BC coast: Home A/C is rare so we have a culture and architecture of summer night open windows. But when your neighbour's heat pump loudly cycles off and on the bedroom window must be shut.
@James1095
@James1095 Рік тому
@@pong9000 Mine almost never runs at night. I'll run it in the evening to cool off the house and by that point outside is usually cooled off enough that it won't cycle on again during the night.
@rybaluc
@rybaluc Рік тому
Not every heat pump can do cooling. And if they do cooling if you not have air ducted heat transfer(very uncommon in europe residental buildings) but radiators, it might not have sufficient effectivity due very low temperatures required. Floor heating is a bit better and would be used but it induces lot of cokd on feet - not healthy. We rarely use A/C unless necessary due a very expensive energy and better architectural solution of buildings. We use shades in front of windows and have well insulated houses which works for incomming heat as well. In case of old houses you often not have case of too much hot temperature at all. They are cold whole year as walls are around 1 meter thick and stones might be used.
@plkh9602
@plkh9602 Рік тому
Incroyable.
@TheEnderman67
@TheEnderman67 2 роки тому
I just installed an inverter heat pump/ cooling system in my living space and it's amazing, barely needs to run and hardly consumes any power when it does. What especially helps is full insulation with Low E windows.... Big difference over old single pane windows.
@PeterGrace2013
@PeterGrace2013 2 роки тому
I bought a heat pump dryer based on your previous heat pump videos. I love it. Sure, it takes a little longer to dry stuff but it uses a ton less electricity (measured with an energy monitor.) Thanks for converting me.
@phillipsusi1791
@phillipsusi1791 2 роки тому
A heat pump cloths dryer? Wow... I've never heard of such a thing. That sounds like it would work great down here in Florida.
@jameswhatsit
@jameswhatsit 2 роки тому
Living in a tropical climate, heat pump dryers would be awesome for me. Given the only time we use dryers is in the wet season (the hot part of our year) it’d be like running an auxiliary aircon unit!
@everyhandletaken
@everyhandletaken 2 роки тому
Agree, I got one a few years back & it is great. Previously the house turned into a giant steam room with a standard dryer on, but with the heat pump dryer, there is no change in room temp.
@Ebalosus
@Ebalosus 2 роки тому
I’d like to get one as well. How much longer does it take than a regular one? Like if a normal one only takes 30 minutes to dry bedsheets, how long would a heat pump dryer take in comparison?
@everyhandletaken
@everyhandletaken 2 роки тому
@@Ebalosus To be honest, I am not really that sure of time - I pretty much just set & forget it. I also always have it set to the lower heat setting.. but I did find this snippet, which is based a full drum capacity; "As a rough guideline, the most energy-efficient heat pump dryer will take an average of 2 hours 45 minutes to dry a full 8kg drum of laundry. A condenser dryer will take around 2 hours 15 minutes to dry the same amount of laundry. This is 30 minutes faster and is due to the high drying temperature used." So, there is definitely a difference there, but probably not a huge deal (and that is coming from a person who is hugely impatient!).
@Spivonious
@Spivonious 2 роки тому
We've been very happy with our inverter heat pump system. It was more expensive than a traditional one- or two-stage heat pump system, but our A/C bills dropped to zero and our heating bills are about 50% of what they were when the temperatures drop under 40F. My only complaint so far is that when it gets really cold, like
@adonisds
@adonisds 2 роки тому
Your recommendations are so good you should be hired to inform public policy makers. You could also share affiliate links to allows us to give you a percentage of the things we buy. I bought some things you recommended. The can opener is unbelievable
@skatermanxan
@skatermanxan 2 роки тому
Those backup heating elements in ducted units are usually called emergency heat or e-heat on your thermostat. Our AC unit did quit working for about a day during that polar vortex and that saved us. Like he said though, their COP is only one, so expect your heating bill to adjust accordingly if needed for long stretches. Having a heat pump did definitely drop our heating costs in the winter overall.
@nobody8717
@nobody8717 2 роки тому
Hey man. Good video. I do appreciate how reserved you were when you presented opinions, and you did really well in differentiating them from the ideas you meant to talk about. I think that's what you were going for, so keep up this path if that's where you're going.
@gildardo
@gildardo 2 роки тому
I love you promotion of heat pumps. I would love to see you look into "extreme" insulation of homes. I have seen home insulated on the outside. Like some sort of blanket. I do believe that higher insulation and heat pumps can really reduce energy use and save money as a bonus.
@dbul2542
@dbul2542 2 роки тому
I work in a a climate change-adjacent field and insulation and weatherproofing are the most cost-efficient thing you can do for energy efficiency.
@not-a-theist8251
@not-a-theist8251 2 роки тому
For sure insulation is the way to go especially because it's fairly cheap to do
@gildardo
@gildardo 2 роки тому
@@dbul2542 Every time I go to my uncles' home in Santa Ana, CA, all I can think of is more insulation. They don't use AC, because we Mexicans don't believe in it LOL. I'm sure it's the cost. I can't imagine how they deal with the summer weather.
@wnose
@wnose 2 роки тому
You want to see extreme? There's a house on youtube that's completely contained in a greenhouse.
@cc_snipergirl
@cc_snipergirl 25 днів тому
This was one of the first videos I watched of yours, and you'reoneofthefew channels I actually have notifications for. And now I'm back here because I'm taking a physics course where we're learning about heat pumps, and this is the first place I ever heard of them. I'm not even going into a physics related field. Funny how the world goes round
@esspants
@esspants 2 роки тому
Heat pumps are amazing, I can tell you they are widely being adopted in the State of Maine and they work through our winters. Cheers, guys.
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 Рік тому
HAD A HEAT PUMP for 40 years. Never been cold in my house. Yes it has a “backup” called resistance heat but it doesn’t turn-on very often. The modern pump can generate heat even below freezing.
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