Why is Belgium so Divided?

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Belgium's history of linguistic division is as old as the country itself, the northern half being Dutch or Flemish speaking while the southern half is French or Walloon speaking. And we haven't even got into the German speakers living on Belgium's eastern fringes! The two larger language groups each attempt to rule their own independently having essentially segregated governments for Flanders and Wallonia, however the crisis of 2007 - 2011 showed that while the northern Flemings wanted more decentralisation and autonomy, the southern Walloons were dead set against it. Since then a split of Belgium along these lines has seemed inevitable, but this led me to question: how on earth did Belgium become so divided? The story will take us back to the Holy Roman Empire and the Kingdom of France, William of Orange and the Eighty Years War, Napoleon, the Kingdom of the Netherlands, the Belgian Revolution and two World Wars so strap in because this is going to be a good one!
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@forregom
@forregom 4 роки тому
My teacher once said that Flanders and Wallonia are like a couple who want to break up, but they stay togheter for their child. (Brussels)
@kathybui1918
@kathybui1918 3 роки тому
Hey my teacher said that too, it was 10 years ago in Antwerp.
@superyamky
@superyamky 2 роки тому
@@kathybui1918 i live in antwerp lol
@superyamky
@superyamky 2 роки тому
BRUH LOL XD For their own child Brussels
@danutzzz2064
@danutzzz2064 2 роки тому
good one
@heftyordinanceindividual4015
@heftyordinanceindividual4015 2 роки тому
We stay together because we have nowhere lese to go, Wallonia anyways.
@cameron1866
@cameron1866 4 роки тому
'Im not advocating for the Netherlands to invade Belgium' *Doubt*
@Lucanoptek
@Lucanoptek 4 роки тому
*BUT-*
@danielcivilis1729
@danielcivilis1729 4 роки тому
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
@egnappahz
@egnappahz 4 роки тому
I'm from Belgium, and please, let them invade it. It can only get better at this point.
@lucagames3222
@lucagames3222 4 роки тому
they shouldnt we dont want their fucked up accent
@lucagames3222
@lucagames3222 4 роки тому
egnappahz that is true everything is shit like the roads ever rode a dutch road? smooth right? well ur roads are like our cheese its full of holes
@JereckNET
@JereckNET 4 роки тому
One little thing that you have missed : In the 1830s, during the Belgian Revolution, there was a religious divide between the newly-born Belgium and the Netherlands. Belgium was catholic, while The Netherlands were Protestant. This religious unity was a large part of the decision to include Flanders in the new country, along with Wallonia. However, as religious practice has declined since the XIXth century, the uniting effect of having the same religion has also declined to the point of becoming irrelevant now.
@PointnShootMovies
@PointnShootMovies 3 роки тому
That’s actually sorta a huge thing to leave out.
@rosarypilled
@rosarypilled 2 роки тому
As a Catholic who lives in Flanders, ot kinda sucked that he left that out. We can't unite with Protestants! I would prefer Flemish independence.
@hamzakucuk3449
@hamzakucuk3449 2 роки тому
You know that in the Netherlands below the Rijn river its majority catholic right? It has worked out for 400 years, so why wouldn't it now?
@matheuroux5134
@matheuroux5134 2 роки тому
@@rosarypilled There are now more Catholics in Netherlands than Protestants, because the Protestants are more likely to become atheists
@rosarypilled
@rosarypilled 2 роки тому
@@NicaraguanNacatamale and you wonder why we dislike you.....
@dafyddthomas7689
@dafyddthomas7689 4 роки тому
Difference between Flemish and Nederlandish: In you try speaking Flemish in Belgium they think "That's nice, the Foreigner is making an effort, I will speak slowly and clearly." In Nederland, they think "The only people who would ever speak Dutch is a Dutchman therefore I will speak very very quickly."
@PbPomper
@PbPomper 4 роки тому
That's how I always feel about the French :P I say "oui" and they go on like a TGV.
@bandtrash4038
@bandtrash4038 4 роки тому
@@PbPomper lmfaooo, as a half french person who speaks mostly English, this is exactly how I feel when I go to France to visit my family.
@Cendar100
@Cendar100 4 роки тому
I'm french speaker in the Flemish part of Belgium (so I learned Dutch) I was surprised that my Flemish was not understood in Netherland when I asked for a "belegede broodje met Gouda" (literally "Bread covered by Gouda cheese") I had to say "Sandwich met Rrouda" (they cannot make effort to understand the Flemish "G" or maybe "belegde brood" is obsolete) Indeed I think in Belgium we (French and Dutch speakers) can understand these two languages speaken by foreigners even if it is mispronounced or grammatically wrong. Is not because we are smarter, It's because Belgium is a fake country filled by foreigners like French, Dutch, Spannish, German, English, .. :) The Nationalists of this country are silly, the don't even know from where they come, in both side there where population migration between Flanders and Walloonia (Flemish politicians have a french name, Walloonian's politicians have Flemish name) In old french the word "Belge" was'nt for a Nationality but was a word to mean "bastard" (mixed tribes, Celtic/German) Belgium never existed and will exist forever !
@jeffreywinkelman8671
@jeffreywinkelman8671 4 роки тому
You're wrong, Flemish is dutch on crack and spoken by wine drinking women.
@ethandonnay1136
@ethandonnay1136 4 роки тому
Yes because they are retarded
@Rakehell007
@Rakehell007 6 років тому
The best time Belgium had, was when it didn't have a government for 589 days in 2010 - 2011 :)
@kensley94
@kensley94 5 років тому
2010/11 best times
@nielsardies2001
@nielsardies2001 5 років тому
It still worked 😁
@nimpheuno
@nimpheuno 5 років тому
you realy believe that? all new laws where put aside (they couldent pass becoulse there was noone who was eligeble to sign them )
@flitsertheo
@flitsertheo 5 років тому
We have about 6 governments (lost count ) in Belgium and the remaining ones just kept functioning. On the positive side, we broke a record and it will be a while before anyone does better.
@gustvandenbroeck1162
@gustvandenbroeck1162 5 років тому
a goverment you mean those fools with a desk ( i am from Belgium )
@sabkobds
@sabkobds 4 роки тому
Belgium is too simple for us... Greetings from Bosnia... :)
@viktor1496
@viktor1496 4 роки тому
You haven't even seen our government my friend ;) Your history might be more fucked up but your politics will never hold a candle to the bullshit we deal with hahaha
@justarandombird
@justarandombird 2 роки тому
@@viktor1496 lmao, i totally agree with you on thatone
@runethieren8692
@runethieren8692 2 роки тому
ahahahhaha allright get off your high horse for a minute and pls search shit about out politics, because there is a saying that not even the belgian understand the politics... its so difficult its nothing compared to your politics
@justarandombird
@justarandombird 2 роки тому
@@runethieren8692 facts, another saying in belgium is like: if you think you understand our politics, then someone must've explained it wrong. (As a Belgian i can indeed confirm this )
@sabkobds
@sabkobds 2 роки тому
I still think Bosnian politics is more f*ck*d up... Not that I am proud of it... 😀
@Hugaufre
@Hugaufre 4 роки тому
Thank you for showing your interest in our little country but I am sorry to say that this video is, once again, full of mistakes and constitutes a dangerous rewrite of history. It is very sad to note that the history of Belgium is always so badly addressed by foreigners, especially on internet. You said in the video that it is the french speaking people of Belgium who made the Belgian revolution. It is absolutely false. The Belgian revolution was mainly made by inhabitants of Brussels, which at the time was largely Brabantian (a "dialect" of dutch). They were then joined by volunteers from all over Belgium. Historians agree today that more than 60% of the volunteers were Flemish speakers (see the studies of Jean Stengers and John W. Rooney Jr). The revolution was due to a combination of factors, the main one being the difference of religion (catholic in today's Belgium, protestant in today's Netherlands). You didn't even cite this element. There were plenty of other highly determinant factors: the under-representation of today's Belgians in the parliament (62% of the population and only 50% of the seats); an over-representation of Dutch people in the administration and important positions (4 times more); the public debt of the Netherlands (way higher than the one of the south) had to be supported by the south as well; the diminution in the freedom of the press and freedom of assembly, ... Language was indeed also a consideration since William I of the Netherlands had imposed the standard Dutch everywhere in the northern part of Belgium. The francophone Belgian elites were of course unhappy about this situation but the Flemish speakers as well since they didn't master this language they were now imposed to speak! This part of the video is thus false and really biased. You talked about the situation of the Flemish speakers in the trenches during the first world war and the fact that they were killed because they couldn't understand the instructions of the french-speaking officers. You said that whether this happened or not is not known for certain. Although the officers showed a great deal of condescension towards the non french-speaking soldiers (Flemish and Walloon), plenty of historians have however demonstrated decades ago that this affirmation is largely exaggerated. This is very serious because this idea has wrongfully fed for a long time the Flemish separatist movements. 1) It was not Walloon officers or officers from the south. In general, the officers came from the bourgeoisie, whether from the south or the north of the country (and the majority of them were from current Flanders and Brussels), a bourgeoisie that has always spoken French. 2) How did the Walloon soldiers understand the orders, as they didn't speak either French? 3) There were translators in the trenches and the NCOs were bilingual (since they came from the people but had to learn French to advance in rank) 4) At war, especially during the first world one, the orders are simple and learned quickly. The blows of a whistle, it is universal! How did soldiers in other armies who spoke only their dialect understand the orders in the standard language? You implied many times that the south of Belgium was simply French speaking. This is however only a very recent phenomenon that began after the first world war. At the time of the 1830 revolution, people from the south were speaking different dialects of Walloon and often couldn't understand French (Walloon is a different language from the same family as french but they are only poorly mutually intelligible). French was chosen as the official language of the new Belgian state because it was the lingua franca of the bourgeoisie and noble elites of the country (from the north and the south), but also because the standard Dutch was the language imposed by the enemy, finally because the Flemish-speaking region was composed of a multitude of local dialects that were often unintelligible to each other (therefore, without a unified language). The language conflict of Belgium is thus historically not a conflict between the south and the north but between the bourgeoisie and the people, between the powerful and those who have nothing. More generally, you fall into the classic affirmation by foreigners and Flemish separatists that Belgium is a forced wedding between the Flemish and the Walloons, an "artificial state" encompassing two different "nations". This is historically completely false as those two identities are really recent. In 1830 the Walloon and Flemish identities don't exist, as people simply identify themselves as being Belgians (See the works of Jean Stengers, Fred Stevens, Axel Tixhon, Jacques Logie, ...). I am sorry to have to write this long and annoying commentary but don't you understand that publishing a "historical" video on the internet, before the eyes of all, gives you a responsibility for the accuracy of its content? At the time of "fake news" and manipulation of the masses your responsibility as a content author is even greater and a simple research on internet could have saved you from saying a lot of false information. Thank you for your reading.
@krixpop
@krixpop 4 роки тому
Exactly ! ! !
@33pastas
@33pastas 4 роки тому
I live in Belgium, can see a multitude of dialects inside of flanders itself. Liked your insight alot.
@TheSpongebob1919
@TheSpongebob1919 4 роки тому
Hell yeah my nigga. You are goddamn right, since Jules Cesar the identity of Belgium exists, this little territory has always been a wierd melting pot of differents view of world/cultures, and it will always be. And in itself represents the identity of Belgium. I shall pee on whoever deny this and qualify my little kingdom as articial construct.
@Drootex
@Drootex 4 роки тому
Dat is een lange tekst
@33pastas
@33pastas 4 роки тому
@@Drootex kan je één boek lezen?
@PIVfdxx
@PIVfdxx 4 роки тому
"Belgium is so divided" Switzerland: "Hold by beer and my rösti"
@adamthetired9319
@adamthetired9319 4 роки тому
Switzerland is mostly German (like 2 thirds), with the French and Italians dividing the rest almost evenly. So, having one dominant language makes Switzerland less divided than Belgium, which has the 50/50 situation.
@markoj.7675
@markoj.7675 4 роки тому
Switzerland is like 65%German, 20% French and 8% Italian, rest are immigrants, while Belgium is like 55% dutch, 40% French and rest are immigrants.If you can see Switzerland is much less divided than Belgium.
@Tiktik_Xanim
@Tiktik_Xanim 4 роки тому
Marko J. German 63 and French 22
@markoj.7675
@markoj.7675 4 роки тому
@@Tiktik_Xanim Like that's a big diffrence
@Tiktik_Xanim
@Tiktik_Xanim 4 роки тому
Marko J. JA lmfao
@leroyeuvrard5243
@leroyeuvrard5243 3 роки тому
I was an American living in France. When I drove to Belgium, some one said to me "Vous êtes de septante." I wondered "How does he know that I have seven aunts?" Then I realized that he was referring to my license plate that indicated that I was from Department 70 in France.
@melz6625
@melz6625 3 роки тому
ah I’m glad I’m not the only French learner having a good grasp on written French but being completely lost when I’m supposed to decifer spoken French because they never separate any words clearly.
@Simon-A.-Tan
@Simon-A.-Tan 3 роки тому
Oh, yeah.... Our French speakers say "septante" and "nonante" in stead of "soixante-dix" and "quatre-vingt-dix" as they do in France. Pretty normal in my opinion. It's the French who are weirdo's. Can you imagine English natives talking about "sixty-ten" and "eighty-ten" in stead of "seventy" and "ninety"?
@11Survivor
@11Survivor 2 роки тому
@@Simon-A.-Tan as an alsatian french, the belgian method makes more sense ngl.
@SuAva
@SuAva 2 роки тому
@@Simon-A.-Tan not even 'eighty-ten' but 'four-twenty-ten' because the 80 is already weirdly called 4x20.. :') French numbers are actual math problems. For 90 which is called '4-20-10' you literally have to do 4x20+10, like who does that lol (and the word 'neuf' for 9 comes in literally nowhere, unless you're saying 99 which is 'quatre-vingt-dix-neuf' or 4x20+10+9, lol! xD ).
@juanme555
@juanme555 2 роки тому
@@SuAva Is four twenties, not four twenty times, therefore is 20x4+10 , but you're right is silly. They should just copy Swiss Numbers, the swiss have fully standardized Latin Numbers in Swiss French. "Huitante/Octante" 80 included.
@Bb0909sh7
@Bb0909sh7 5 років тому
As a Dutch person, I'm pretty sure about 90% of the Dutch population would love to have Flanders back.
@floris9802
@floris9802 4 роки тому
@@AtrEdits we dont need hanicapt dutch people cuz that is pretty much what defines Belgium
@bijtmntongaf
@bijtmntongaf 4 роки тому
Zuid-Nederland*
@pqbdwmnu
@pqbdwmnu 4 роки тому
Floris Van der laan you spelled handicapped wrong, you’re disabled
@floris9802
@floris9802 4 роки тому
@@pqbdwmnu thats the joke smartass
@pqbdwmnu
@pqbdwmnu 4 роки тому
Floris Van der laan If your joke is so bad nobody can tell it’s a joke, you probably failed
@iliashdz9106
@iliashdz9106 4 роки тому
When your economics teacher tells you that you're unlucky to be born in the most politically complicated country that you know. You where born in the right country.
@AsfandShahid
@AsfandShahid 4 роки тому
were*
@MarcelRecasens
@MarcelRecasens 2 роки тому
I'm sure there are plenty of more politically unstable countries in Africa or South America
@anisanancy3858
@anisanancy3858 Рік тому
@@MarcelRecasens politically complicated isn’t the same as politically unstable
@MarcelRecasens
@MarcelRecasens Рік тому
@@anisanancy3858 true
@Discontinuedalready7372
@Discontinuedalready7372 5 років тому
_When France and Netherlands love each other very much_ *_BOOM!_* _We got Belgium. (Who has multiple personality disorder)_ _[[WARNING: French and Dutch nerds fighting in the replies]]_
@tomvos5594
@tomvos5594 4 роки тому
@Nathan Verhoeven Not the point...
@user-qs2nr3ee6l
@user-qs2nr3ee6l 4 роки тому
@@anaxco447 we are here to stay
@jeffreywinkelman8671
@jeffreywinkelman8671 4 роки тому
france and the netherlands don't love eachother, we hate eachother.
@Tennoeno
@Tennoeno 4 роки тому
@@jeffreywinkelman8671 france doesn't even know your country exists you're too small
@thomas-ir5ii
@thomas-ir5ii 4 роки тому
@@Tennoeno smaller but still won wars against u with lesser men :)
@MaartenvanRossemLezingen
@MaartenvanRossemLezingen 6 років тому
I'm not from Belgium but one of my parents is and I go there a lot, I'm born and live in the Netherlands. If you're interested in Belgium, particularly the Dutch speaking side, you might find this comment interesting. As far as I understand (and I think I'm very knowledgable on the issue) the whole political situation is severely misunderstood by foreigners and Belgians aren't as divided as everyone thinks. On top of that, Dutch people (from the Netherlands) tend to be a bit "louder" on the topic online, because of their national pride, they'd like to see Flanders join the Netherlands just to see the Netherlands become a little bigger on the world map, so there is a lot of Dutch bias that's difficult to correct when talking to foreigners who've never been to or know anyone in Belgium. In short: a lot of the information about Belgium isn't actually Belgian, it's from Dutch people in Holland who naturally have their own bias and like any other foreigner talking about another country misunderstanding and lack of knowledge on the subject. It's like an average Australian thinking he can explain the entire UK in an absolutely factual and objective way because he's read half a wikipedia page and some youtube comments about it, you'd rather hear that information from a British person and even then the average British person probably doesn't fully understand the UK either. *TL;DR:* It's important to understand that just because the Flemish speak Dutch, doesn't mean they're culturally Dutch, Flemish people are as different from Dutch people culturally as any other foreigner, this is not a biased exageration, it's very important to know if you want to understand Belgium and Flemish people. Keep in mind the inter marriage rate between Dutch and Flemish people is smaller than the inter marriage rate between Walloons and Flemish people. Most Dutch and Flemish people don't fully know about the cultural gap, they just tend to look at the other side as weird without a real explanation for it, it's very hard to find a Dutch person with Flemish friends and vice versa, so there is just not a lot of connection or knowledge about eachother. Just to give you a taste, they don't consume eachother's media, a good example: apart from one hilarious exception Flemish comedians don't make it in Holland, and Dutch comedians don't make it in Flanders. The same goes for almost everything, cuisine, morals and values, social rules, etc. Even the language is different in that it's a variety of Dutch, not so much just a regional accent or dialect, you can compare it to British English vs American English. This comparison might be hard to understand for foreigners because the two countries are so close to eachother and don't have geographic barriers between them. This cultural divide is a result of lots of things, but the biggest one is probably the French cultural dominance that has lasted for a quite a while in Belgium (at least from its independence, but probably longer than that). If you'd compare it to the Anglophone world, you could compare the Flemish, who speak Dutch, to the Americans, who speak English (and yes, many Flemish people say they speak Flemish, rather than Dutch). Most people don't care about cultural geography so this won't become known to anyone who doesn't visit both countries regularly, which include many Dutch and Belgian people. Most Dutch people only know about the cultural differences of the other side that they've seen, and assume everyting else about the country is just the same, and vice versa, which doesn't help in forming a fully knowledgeable and unbiased picture of Belgium to explain to foreigners over the internet. Again, this is probably similar to Americans and English people, or even English and Irish people, or for instance Norwegians and Icelandic people or Greek and Cyprus Greek people (don't really know anything about those guys, but you get the point). Because the region is so small and isn't seperated by geographic barriers though, as far as I know the situation is a unique one in this world in that way, which I think makes it very interesting and some historians should get on that, but that's besides the point. Though a significant minority of Flemings want to leave or are okay with leaving Belgium, the vast majority of those don't want to join the Netherlands. It's impossible for a foreigner to fully understand, but it's one of the reasons Belgium does exist. I suspect in the future the record will be set more straight as Belgians will start getting annoyed at these stereotypes (like I do) that start to float around on the internet and will speak out, but this will probably take time. If you wanna help with that you can like this ridiculously long comment if you agree with me that this misrepresentation of Belgium is kind of annoying. By the way, I think there are plenty of way more intersting things about Belgium to talk about, one of those: Beer!
@MsLia32
@MsLia32 5 років тому
The thing to remember about the Flemish is that they never had a country of their own. Most Belgians, except the new ones and the idiots that want to mimic the Americans, aren't very nationalistic at all. (That is why Belgian oil is sold on the Belgian market as "Italian oil", while In France toyota's are sold "fabrique on France"). That is also the reason Belgians were a lot faster in accepting German rule duing both world wars and we get modern politicians in Belgian with clear descendency of traitors from the VNV. In the end Flemish are simply Flemish, no matter what country they are put under. That is why Flemish didn't turn into Spanish, didn't turn into Austrians, didn't turn into French and didn't turn into Dutch.
@loic533
@loic533 5 років тому
Maarten van Rossem Lezingen You are absolutely right. I am Belgian and I am annoyed by all those stereotypes... why do the foreigners all complicated? I love Belgium. I am a francophone but I love the Flemish’s. What’s the problem?
@loic533
@loic533 5 років тому
MsLia32 but you forget a reason. Flemish are Belgian and they love Belgium. Only the foreigners want to divide Belgium... I hope one day we’ll can be happy together. But I think it begin because Belgian become patriotic now ❤️ and i see it
@BxPanda7
@BxPanda7 5 років тому
Your TLDR is literally twice as long as the rest of your comment lmfao
@maarten9272
@maarten9272 5 років тому
@Beverley Hohn Chang Lol, we sure don't like non Europeans, but we are far from the worst.
@RHEADOR
@RHEADOR 6 років тому
Omfg the part with willem van oranje was amazing ;)
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
I was hoping people would like it ;) I mean its a video about Belgium ffs - it needs memes!
@anarchotoastbackup2083
@anarchotoastbackup2083 6 років тому
*Netherlands Intensifies*
@TheBiggestTungsten
@TheBiggestTungsten 6 років тому
I wish I knew what it was saying.
@bewerkt
@bewerkt 6 років тому
i love it, its from one of my favorite dutch youtube channels (Studio Massa)
@slupschuiters1774
@slupschuiters1774 6 років тому
Lucky Cat Ik,
@chouc4s
@chouc4s 5 років тому
some adjustement from a walloon: -Before WW2, walloon was the only language spoken by poor walloon (and is very different to understand as french speaker) -Before WW2, French was spoken by rich people in Wallonia and flanders -After WW2, Flemish peoples diffended their language and culture against rich french speaker (Some were walloon some were Flemish) -After WW2, Walloon language disapeared and French was learned instead. Today nobody speaks walloon anymore aside of some grandparents but that's it -These days, there is a rivalry Flemish VS French which was initially Poor against Rich
@DarkAngelEU
@DarkAngelEU 4 роки тому
And we only have this "rivalry" because nationalists abuse this history to portray the Walloon as rich toads, while we all know their economy is alot weaker than the Flemish. Now this problem disappeared, they're aiming at foreigners and muslims, just like extremists do anywhere else in the West.
@sciolist3109
@sciolist3109 4 роки тому
legkip legkip not their fault that french was the language of social mobility in basically all of western europe at the time. however, as a linguist, it is pretty sad. old walloon was a dialect of the oïl languages spoken in old burgundy, the duchy of burgundy, and walloonia. now that im pondering about it, maybe if it [walloonian oïl] had stayed the predominant language of walloonia, belgium wouldnt be so divided, as oïl was basically french with a german influence. this mightve relinquished some of the bitterness between vlaanders and walloonia because they wouldve shared a deeper cultural root, sharing a cultural tie in the medieval duchy of burgundy (as the duchies in flanders were ruled by charles the bold of burgundy) but also a linguistic tie, as flemish and oïl are both languages both influenced by french and german (although respective influence reciprocated between the two). considering that catholic remains the national religion, it would be very easy for the walloonian and flemish populations to get along, especially with this adopted heritage as the successors of burgundy, which mightve even triggered an irredentist (possibly) national idea to be the successors of lotharingia, maybe even claiming the title of the successors of middle francia (as middle francia was historically a linguistically and culturally divided region) which might evolve into a phenomenon like in switzerland, where the historical pride and culture dominates linguistic barriers to create a strong sense of civic nationalism. it would be an awesome alternate history spinoff to discuss, but it would be quite unlikely, as the french language permeated as the language of nobility as far as into russia. the likelihood of walloonian oïl french being the dominant language against francien french is just really low unless there is enough literature and artists passionate enough to preserve the oïl walloonian language, where in our timeline, was humiliatingly scarce.
@bruvyo8180
@bruvyo8180 4 роки тому
The rivalry nowadays is still poor against rich, but now the roles have been reversed. The Flanders is a lot wealthier then Wallonia and they have to pay them a lot of money every year. Both sides also get the same amount of money and, for example, goods while the population of the Flanders are almost double the Wallonian population. Flemish children have to learn French from a very young age, it’s obligated in the Flanders to learn French. To make it work like one country you can start by learning both languages, as you are one country. But on the French side it’s not obligated and you can choose if you want to learn Flemish or not. Some things are just really unfair. That’s why a lot of Flemish people crave for independence.
@chouc4s
@chouc4s 4 роки тому
@@bruvyo8180 regarding the language, we have to choose between Dutch and English at 10 years old (5th of primary) then at 14 the non chosen one is added. So Dutch is at least a bit learned, but it is not a lot, I agree. Even for the People choosing Dutch first, it is quickly forgotten after school because we never ear or read Dutch ( only some Dutch is eard during the info), English on the other hand is everywhere.
@al-hb9ox
@al-hb9ox 4 роки тому
@legkip legkip Why sad? I'm from Wallonia and it's a good thing. Wallonia and the north of France are the beginning of French history and the French language. Clovis was born in Tournai (actual Wallonia), the first Frank's who create actual France are from Belgium (Franc Saliens) etc. Walloon is just a local language like Picard or Occitan in France, but we should be united under the French language
@thedude7319
@thedude7319 4 роки тому
And people wonder why I never address the "so explain something of your country"
@BListHistory
@BListHistory 6 років тому
"We are DETERMINED to keep splitting up states until every one of our countries is the size of Luxemburg and no more than 4 speak the same language" -Europeans probably
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
City state stronk
@SuperExodian
@SuperExodian 6 років тому
i mean, that's often the case, isn't it. smaller states tend to prosper far more often than very large states. the only real problem with smaller states is smaller militaries, but, as long as you have a nuke or 2 as deterent, there's no real risk of invasion.
@hornetgamer8980
@hornetgamer8980 6 років тому
The irony being that the likes of Luxembourg and Monaco - or if we want to talk about more realistically sized nations but with strong subdivisions, Switzerland - are insanely rich. If you want to pop further east you can take the smaller gulf states, South Korea and Singapore, none of which are perfect and some of which have some very draconian laws, but relative to the rest of their regions they're countries whose people are doing very well for themselves. Whereas in the bigger countries like Britain, France, Germany, and dare I say it the US, (and if we want to pop further east let's throw Russia and China in there), they're incredibly powerful and in most instances wealthy countries, but with swathes of the country in pretty bad shape for the people who actually live there. There is arguably a size of country above which governing in the interests of all for the benefit of all becomes exponentially more difficult. Smaller is not automatically better. For all my examples above there are some extremely poverty-stricken small nations out there without the means to hope to change it, but if you can figure out how to carve out your niche in the world then size isn't a barrier to success.
@darkmater4tm
@darkmater4tm 6 років тому
You have it completely backwards. States don't split so that there can be more languages. States split because they are ruling over dissimilar peoples. The natural way of things is for people to be both diverse and to have no clear borders. Any kind of uniformity or clear borders is the result of a state forcing everyone within its borders to convert to the culture of the capital (or exterminating the regional populations and replacing them with settlers from the capital).
@renlysotherlover294
@renlysotherlover294 6 років тому
B-List History hhahahahaa it really is one of the most ridiculous movements to arise in recent years. I’m glad Catalonia failed. I’m glad Scotland failed. I’m glad every time one of these silly movements fail including in my country the United States with the ridiculous california independence movements and in Texas.
@agnieszkavanheirreweghe5837
@agnieszkavanheirreweghe5837 6 років тому
"Recently belgium had some issues" belgium has had issues from the day it was created.
@bloodysteel2429
@bloodysteel2429 6 років тому
agnieszka van heirreweghe its sad cus its true
@maru-dy5ld
@maru-dy5ld 6 років тому
Hou u mond trut niemand heeft u iets gevraagd
@SG0041
@SG0041 6 років тому
D F M ze mag toch haar mening geven e
@maru-dy5ld
@maru-dy5ld 6 років тому
Sabri Gaddari vind gij da goe of zo ons mooi België uitschelden
@justsomebody7431
@justsomebody7431 6 років тому
Nope alleen vanaf het jaar 1912 maar nu gaat het al veel beter
@ehanoldaccount5893
@ehanoldaccount5893 4 роки тому
"The French encouraged on Germanic lands" *Cough -A L S A C E L O R A I N E-
@mtksbctk
@mtksbctk 4 роки тому
Le coq sticking it in the germania
@jeantrublion4278
@jeantrublion4278 4 роки тому
*La marseillaise plays loudly*
@stephenroney6490
@stephenroney6490 4 роки тому
@@mtksbctk Did you just say your Cock sticking up Germans?
@stephenroney6490
@stephenroney6490 4 роки тому
What do you mean by encouraged? Do you mean encroached?
@stephenroney6490
@stephenroney6490 4 роки тому
Encouraged means telling folk to keep up the good work. Encroached means occupied.
@Triadii
@Triadii 4 роки тому
As wacky as it might be I actually like the cultural divide in Belgium. It is what makes the country unique.
@oess855
@oess855 3 місяці тому
Just because it's unique doesn't mean it's good
@kauemoura
@kauemoura 6 років тому
Belgium remains together by the sheer strength of its bureaucracy. :)
@datarater
@datarater 6 років тому
I thought it was the monarchy and the football team which kept them together.
@kauemoura
@kauemoura 6 років тому
Stephen Bishop nee, peut-être those from the Vlaanderen and Wallonie can't split because they can't parler each other's taal... So they all eat fries, waffles, and drink their beers whilst passive-agressivelly stare at their neighbours.
@Surtak
@Surtak 6 років тому
No there's a federal government. Something perhaps not strongly indicated in the video. The regional governments have a good degree of autonomy on a lot of issues, but the federal level is still strong.
@Altrantis
@Altrantis 6 років тому
Having lived in Belgium for a year, coming from Latin America, I can attest that Belgium is, in fact, charicaturesquely bureaucratic. In fact, if I had to describe Belgium, I'd say they're: Patient, respectful, direct, stiff and bureaucratic.
@anonUK
@anonUK 6 років тому
"Red tape holds the nation together."
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 6 років тому
Ever heard of "Plan N" proposed by Flemish law expert Matthias Storme? It was a proposal to solve a potential deadlock when Flanders would become independent, because in principle it would have to re-apply to the EU in order to become a member. Some French-speaking Belgians had threatened to undermine that process together with their allies (like France), so it would become really hard for the Flemish to re-join the EU. Mathias Storme postulated that Flanders could join the *kingdom* of the Netherlands on the same terms as the Dutch overseas territories, which in principle are automatically part of the EU. That way, Flanders would be independent, be only nominally part of the Netherlands (only for defense and foreign affairs) and remain EU-member. Great video BTW! They are getting better and better!
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
That's really interesting actually - I never really thought about that but I might include it in my video about possible scenarios for a Belgian split if that's the option that wins the poll. Thanks man!
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 6 років тому
Hilbert, we should really have a talk about this, because I have been following this issue (the possible split of Belgium and reunification of Flanders with the Netherlands) for many years and could fill you in on it. I have many contacts and enlisted in several societies to these ends. :-)
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 6 років тому
Phrenomythic They can join the French Republic as well, never heard of French Guyana? Lol
@Phrenotopia
@Phrenotopia 6 років тому
In a sense, they are already joined to France at the moment, that is the problem. LOL
@myaccountgothackedgoogledo7571
@myaccountgothackedgoogledo7571 6 років тому
If you want to include it try to get into contact with him. He's very friendly and responds to a lot.
@sofiedemaeseneir3087
@sofiedemaeseneir3087 4 роки тому
Anyone from belguim?:( EDIT:thanks for all the likes yesterday i had 21 likes (Dankjewel voor de likes gisteren had ik nog maar 21 likes Edit 2:why are you Guys liking so much?
@Privacy123
@Privacy123 4 роки тому
I am!
@_deanderin5145
@_deanderin5145 4 роки тому
Thijs Lonneux me too
@lachaise7096
@lachaise7096 4 роки тому
yep
@nicofonce
@nicofonce 4 роки тому
Present :)
@nonamenoproblem8962
@nonamenoproblem8962 4 роки тому
Oui de Charleroi Ja, uit Charleroi
@Krovald
@Krovald 3 роки тому
Top man. Ik kijk je video's nou een jaartje of zo. Echt leuk. Vrij diep en vol met relevante informatie, relatief tot hun lengte. Compact en toch niet te snel gesproken. Prettig stemgebruik; regelmatig wat bescheiden humor er in. Doe je goed!
@TheEmpireDabsBack
@TheEmpireDabsBack 6 років тому
I can't believe it's taken me till now to actually realize those self centered Romans named the acts of love after themselves. Romantic. Romance. 🤔🙄
@flemishbear9658
@flemishbear9658 5 років тому
holy sh*t me too because of ur comment.
@deckie_
@deckie_ 5 років тому
Not really. The English did. The term "romance" refers to a cultural period, the Romance period. The beliefs held in this period originated in France mainly (although the Germans did have the Storm and Desire movement before that), and it was a response to the classical views of stoicism and neutrality. The French called it stuff more akin to sentimentalism, naturalism, realism (odly enough, very complicated term though). When these ideas came to over to the English, they called it French, or Romantic (romantic language). This is also where the term ''roman'' as the anticesis to ''novel'' comes from, this style of writing fiction was typically French / romantic.
@leogreek3003
@leogreek3003 3 роки тому
In latin love is àmor and is not related with this
@theplayer2319
@theplayer2319 2 роки тому
The expression french-kiss doesn't come from France either.
@captainie1
@captainie1 6 років тому
Thank you for a very clear, concise explanation. I genuinely learned a lot about a country that although I've not been to yet I look forward to visiting soon. Kind regards from Ireland.
@johanwittens7712
@johanwittens7712 5 років тому
Main reason for the early 19th century Wallonian riches and later decline was that wallonia was not just industrial, but almost entirely based on coal mining and steel production. In those days, coal and steel were the driving force of the industrial revolution and wealth creators. Flanders was poorer, but also had plenty of industry, mainly textiles. The city where i live for example Gent, had plenty of factories for textiles. But also, in flanders, the wealthy factory owners spoke french or were bilingual, because the wealthy in general mainly spoke french and the rich flemish factory owners copied them. French was the language of the wealthy bourgoisie up until WW1 - WW2. This already had roots in the 15th century, when flanders (and the netherlands) were the burgundian netherlands ruled by the burgundians and later the hapsburgs, who spoke french. French often was the language of the wealthy and ruling classes/government, even in flanders from the burgundian period on. After WW2, the economic focus in the western world shifted from coal and steel to oil. The coal mines in wallonia dried up and became to expensive to exploit, and the steel mills also gradually declined and took with them the wealth and jobs. Flanders however, because of the huge port at Antwerp and the smaller ports at Gent, Oostende and Zeebrugge, became ideally located for oil refining, chemical plants and pharmaceuticals,... all the post WW2 modern industries and wealth creators. That is the main reason the economic positions of Wallonia and Flanders shifted so drastically after WW2.
@BK-mh7lu
@BK-mh7lu 4 роки тому
Johan Wittens ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pmR_jHpkqYuVomg.html
@theplayer2319
@theplayer2319 2 роки тому
Verviers had plenty of factories for textiles. My familly is from the province of Limburg, they moved to the province of Liège to find jobs.
@johanwittens7712
@johanwittens7712 2 роки тому
@@theplayer2319 yes true. There were definitely lots of factories in wallonia too. But the bulk of coal and steel production was located in wallonia. I think the only coal mines In Flanders were in Limburg, and that coal was only discovered in the early 20th century. And even then it was coal best suited for heavy industry, so it was almost all shipped to wallonia to Liege and the Borinage. Flanders had no heavy industry, only textiles and agriculture really. And that changed dramatically after WW2 with the petrochemical industry, pharmaceuticals, and manufacturing industry starting in Flanders while the heavy industry in wallonia declined. And off course, I'm oversimplifying...
@mad_fleming
@mad_fleming 2 роки тому
You are correct, just a minor nitpick. French speaking nobility in West and East-Flanders goes back way further than that. Possibly the 10th century even. As the County of Flanderd was de jure part of France.
@Cendar100
@Cendar100 4 роки тому
Hi, french speakers of Belgium pronounce the final "S" of cityies of "Anvers" or "Mons" but not for "Bruxelles", only the french from France say "Anver" (without S) or "BruXelles" (bruksel) "X" in city name is often pronounced "SS", so French-Speakers for "Bruxelles" pronounce "Brussel" like the Flemish In Belgium both Flemish and French speaker pronounce "W" the same as the English (Walloonian are not Valloonian ;) ) French from France pronounce "W" as "V" like the Germans
@Suriner1
@Suriner1 4 роки тому
Thank you for saying this. It annoyed me to no end to hear his pronounciations.
@Suriner1
@Suriner1 4 роки тому
@NarvaloTV All the French people from France I've talked to seemed to pronounce it wrong in the same way. Belgians are alright tho.
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 3 роки тому
Correct, although I'm wierded out by what you say about the Frenchmen, I usually hea them prononce W just like we do
@giogoro9811
@giogoro9811 3 роки тому
French speakers pronounce the W as a "W" we do not pronounce it like the germans at all
@giogoro9811
@giogoro9811 3 роки тому
We only pronounce it as a "V" sound in the word "wagon" wich is the only exemple I have on the entire language
@emil3657
@emil3657 5 років тому
as a dutchmen from Breda Noord-Brabant i welcome you with open arms flemish brothers. Antwerp is a beautiful city
@GunterDierickx
@GunterDierickx 5 років тому
Greetings back from Southern-Brabant
@thedankone1287
@thedankone1287 5 років тому
Antwerpen is een parking
@adrician
@adrician 5 років тому
@@thedankone1287 sws G Brussel for life
@bibi4u200
@bibi4u200 4 роки тому
nice zoo you guys have there btw ^-^
@1BIGREVOLUTION
@1BIGREVOLUTION 4 роки тому
If your from Breda your Belgian, U talk with the soft G sound just like the rest of the southern regio of Netherland, only people from Belgium talk with soft G sound.. know your history.. Belg
@jonaw.2153
@jonaw.2153 6 років тому
Mooi gedaan Hilbert. +1 UKpostsr pts. voor jou.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
Dankjewel zeg!
@swekker
@swekker 6 років тому
Allee welja das plezant (sorry io ben Nederlands)
@callmeapple4013
@callmeapple4013 6 років тому
Lol
@cbabick
@cbabick 5 років тому
I love this. Please make more videos on anything related; I studied linguistics, so that would be my preference, but I need to learn whatever you can share. People don't talk enough about Belgium.
@Jaimbro
@Jaimbro 4 роки тому
im surprised how accurate the memes you use are, since theyre national memes. Keep it up m88 enjoying it
@Vulpiq
@Vulpiq 4 роки тому
Waarom zou hij geen Nederlandse memes begrijpen?
@megamelvin25969
@megamelvin25969 5 років тому
Am just here cause Belgium defeated Brazil today in football
@megamelvin25969
@megamelvin25969 5 років тому
Now on my quest to know about Croatia.
@simonclasse9435
@simonclasse9435 5 років тому
Are you Brazilian ?
@megamelvin25969
@megamelvin25969 5 років тому
No just like soccer
@abrahamvinod9804
@abrahamvinod9804 5 років тому
IT'S FOOTBALL
@motanelustelistu
@motanelustelistu 5 років тому
Mel mel,and let me guess,this made the whole country feel pround and united,ei :P ?
@odinalstadheim9730
@odinalstadheim9730 6 років тому
You are making a lot of great content now, thank you for doing so
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
Gotta share the love for the festive season amirite? Thanks for all your support - makes it all worthwhile!
@Sluretje
@Sluretje 4 роки тому
Goed gedaan deze docu! Je belicht het ook vanaf meerdere kanten, en dat is erg goed! PROPS!
@meloniusplonius8971
@meloniusplonius8971 5 років тому
I love that every every video where Willem of Orange is mentioned, Stille Willem plays
@user-wl4sr4tl7f
@user-wl4sr4tl7f 6 років тому
*Insert rightful Dutch Clay joke*
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
*Windmills intensifies*
@boomburst8031
@boomburst8031 6 років тому
1830 will commence again!!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 6 років тому
Is not joke.
@B100inCP
@B100inCP 6 років тому
But... it's not a joke...
@arminbeintze2029
@arminbeintze2029 6 років тому
Олег Оленев Germany is rightful part of Belgium
@crowhillian58
@crowhillian58 5 років тому
As an Englishman I found the video interesting, giving me detail of a situation I knew very little about. I always find the comments very enlightening too, giving different perspectives and I congratulate you all on your perfect written English!! Thanks! Merci! Bedankt! Vielen Dank!
@noavb7930
@noavb7930 4 роки тому
crowhillian58 This video isn’t a good example of Belgium, this guy has more false information then right facts
@imwinningthisone7613
@imwinningthisone7613 4 роки тому
The guy that made the video is dutch, and that's the only language they can speak
@imwinningthisone7613
@imwinningthisone7613 2 роки тому
@dpassch His name, his accent and his references, combined with the amount of misinformation that he presents as "facts" lead me to believe he's Dutch. If he's British, that would make this channel even weirder, if he truly has no connection with the Netherlands, why is he so obsessed with it?
@imwinningthisone7613
@imwinningthisone7613 2 роки тому
@dpassch that comment didnt give any answers.
@imwinningthisone7613
@imwinningthisone7613 2 роки тому
@dpassch he didn't confirm it though. But if that is correct, then that confirms what i said 2 comments ago, he's just wannabe dutch.
@patratgames4712
@patratgames4712 2 роки тому
my great great grandfather died in ww1 because he didn't understand french
@lyninthelowlands
@lyninthelowlands 3 роки тому
Loved the video thanks for the info!
@Ezijo
@Ezijo 6 років тому
im from Belgium and it is great that someone from another country know us and talks about us goe gedaan jongeman
@NOVAFrederick
@NOVAFrederick 6 років тому
Belgium? More like anti-maginot route
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
~ The nations of Europe minus the Netherlands, 1839
@NOVAFrederick
@NOVAFrederick 6 років тому
History With Hilbert Imagine if Belgium remained dutch, who knows we would've been at war with the Germans in WW1
@hankcyrus9776
@hankcyrus9776 6 років тому
NOVA maybe, but they did now that the shipments would stop.
@flemishmilitant
@flemishmilitant 6 років тому
NOVA jew
@NOVAFrederick
@NOVAFrederick 6 років тому
flemish militant1302 el
@bookmouse2719
@bookmouse2719 3 роки тому
Thank you for your explanation...I have an acquaintance that tried to explain the problem he had as a Dr. in that country and making sure he spoke the "correct" language for his patients .
@sybdel1535
@sybdel1535 4 роки тому
Thanks for all people from Belgium who were very kind to me , my family and other Chechenian people , Wish you all good luck !
@geeache1891
@geeache1891 5 років тому
The many comments show as well, as the video itself, why belgium is so divided ;)
@skullbones7452
@skullbones7452 4 роки тому
lol
@kekephk09
@kekephk09 4 роки тому
a video full of mistakes*
@jasondhuyvetters9200
@jasondhuyvetters9200 4 роки тому
@@kekephk09 are you from belgium ?
@gutentag617
@gutentag617 4 роки тому
Because each side wanna be praised😂😂
@imwinningthisone7613
@imwinningthisone7613 4 роки тому
Barely any Belgians commented here, it's mostly Dutch people
@Nyerguds
@Nyerguds 6 років тому
The thing about the world war 1 mess with commanders not giving orders in Flemish is _absolutely true,_ but it goes even further than that. My great-grandfather, being from a richer family, was a Flemish commanding officer during world war 1, and he was apparently _not allowed_ to give his troops orders in anything but French. He became a very driven flamingant because of it.
@pollux141944
@pollux141944 6 років тому
Since all of us were not present it is difficult to know the anbiased truth. My grandfather fought the 4 years in the Yser trenches. He never ever mentioned this fact. A a kid I witnessed some of his meetings with some of his former comrades (since he lived with us) and never heard talking about this topic.
@ericsalles3393
@ericsalles3393 5 років тому
Nyerguds also during world war 1 .apparently the French army didn't understand each ..as there are 30 odd different dialects and languages in France..so after the ear the French government tried to establish an official French..and forced French children to learn French of isle de France..Parisian French..a bit like Oxford English. my mother was not allowed to speak occitane at school ..just saying ..
@matthiasroef
@matthiasroef 5 років тому
They did. My grandfather told me a story about 2 brothers in his city who got put on trial and got executed for not understanding a charge command issued by a french speaking co. There’s a memorial for them
@yvesremy7096
@yvesremy7096 5 років тому
Oh, that one again. Yes there were also Corsican soldiers executed for not understanding orders in French (and wondering why they got executed). And probably Alsatians got shot because they did not understand the German orders, etc. etc. The pain here is that flamingants want us to believe they were the only ones to suffer that fate. How about Walloon solders who could hardly understand French any better than Flemish ones? It's not French people sending Flemish to death - it's arrogant officers (often aristocrats) killing what they called "peasants". And a lot of French soldiers were also sent to death by their French officers, even though they clearly understood the orders; they knew it was suicide.
@Valandix
@Valandix 5 років тому
Yes that's true, and a Ietter from the FIemish soIdiers was sended to AIbert I; but come on that was a minority was compIaining about, back in the days, most of peopIe (Apart reaIIy poor peopIes) was capabIed to speak both Ianguages. And after the War, the King, and some sociaIist parties of VIaanderen and WaIIonie makes reform about the dominance of French. I'm waIIonian since my grand-grand-father moved to Moeskroen, stiII the major part of my famiIy are FIemish nationaIist, aII from Ypren or Coxyde. And stiII today at the "Commune à faciIité" (I don't know how to pronounce that in Dutch, but that's the communes near the Iinguistic borders), is pretty common to hear both Ianguages.
@martinejanssens1887
@martinejanssens1887 Рік тому
Super interesting and well presented! Two thumbs up 👍
@ImperialStreak
@ImperialStreak 4 роки тому
Informative video! Btw, your pronunciations are on point.
@kaiserwilhelm3933
@kaiserwilhelm3933 5 років тому
Holy Oranje-Nassau, het is Willem de Rapper.
@BLKPlutoh
@BLKPlutoh 5 років тому
My God😱 so much more complicated than i realized. Borders are truly a present global discussion/concern. Thanks for this!
@LOEKASH
@LOEKASH Рік тому
I have no idea why this country still exists, but I'm glad that it does
@scottwhitley3392
@scottwhitley3392 4 роки тому
It’s funny, ever since Belgium got really good at football the country has united more
@blitosz
@blitosz 2 роки тому
Tho the belgium national team has more connection to the French side of the country
@TimberTiMbErlAkE
@TimberTiMbErlAkE 2 роки тому
@@blitosz Who are the Flemish players in that team? I guess KDB, Vermaalen, Mertens, Van....., Wistel .... many I suppose
@konraddobson
@konraddobson 2 роки тому
That's always the case, but only temporarily.
@jeanbethencourt1506
@jeanbethencourt1506 6 років тому
Belgium exists today because Spain reconquered it from the Dutch republic, creating the modern border separating Belgium and the Netherlands.
@gerhardswihla1099
@gerhardswihla1099 4 роки тому
@Jean Bethencourt If you throw in the Spanish you should also say something about the House of Habsburg and Austria and that it wasn't only a question about language areas, also about territorial and religious matters.
@wouterberings6535
@wouterberings6535 4 роки тому
Not reconquered. The Dutch left. We just stayed.
@PhilZero
@PhilZero 5 років тому
Just wanted to say thanks for the videos. I’m from Canada, and I’ve always had a fascination with the Low Countries. Can’t wait to travel here again
@ugothesheep
@ugothesheep 4 роки тому
Your map of the division of Belgium between France and the Holly Roman Empire is totally wrong as the main part of Wallonia was part of the "Principauté de Liège" itself part of the Holly Roman Empire. I'm in France and the nearest town in Belgium, Beaumont, was part of the Holly Roman Empire.
@thibeau9949
@thibeau9949 4 роки тому
oow
@hitca678
@hitca678 4 роки тому
also a part of Hainaut was a part of Flanders.
@mad_fleming
@mad_fleming 2 роки тому
Also the original County of Flanders (West- and East-Flanders today) was part of France ironically.
@arnaudselvais6897
@arnaudselvais6897 4 роки тому
There is full of historical mistakes in this video. E.g. The independence of Belgium did not happen because of the langage but because the Walloon and the Flemish were Catholic whereas the Dutch were protestant. Not at all because a part of the population wanted to speak french. Indeed, French wasn't spoken by the belgian population at that time, it came way later in the country. #CheckYourFact
@chloeparmentier644
@chloeparmentier644 4 роки тому
Yes, the walloon speak walloon, not french..
@stevenelsermans7095
@stevenelsermans7095 4 роки тому
@the Belgian I have never met a patriotic Belgian, not in Flanders anyway. If you think we are so united for our country you are quite delusional. Look at the state of our goverment, and the split between us has existed since 1830. Two peoples, two cultures
@stijneke2911
@stijneke2911 4 роки тому
@the Belgian I heard that Dutchland is lovely this time of year, although FrankEmpire and Greekland also sound okay!
@gerarddewolf201
@gerarddewolf201 4 роки тому
@@stevenelsermans7095 I'm from Flanders, and I'm patriotic. One of the mistakes in the video is, by the way, that Flanders and Wallonia would be different in language and culture. I can agree about the language part, but flemish people are culturally closer to Walloon than they are to Dutch people. To be honest, I prefer to live in a union with the Walloon to getting in bed with the Dutch :-) Vive la Belgique - Leve België - L'union fait la force - Eendracht maakt macht !
@user-gn1yz9ul2k
@user-gn1yz9ul2k 4 роки тому
​@@gerarddewolf201 Taal en cultuur zijn altijd onafscheidelijk verbonden. Hoeveel walen zouden bekend zijn met de werken van bv. Guido Gezelle of Hendrik Conscience, welke Vlaamse films/series doen het even goed in Wallonië als in Vlaanderen en waarom stemmen Vlamingen overtuigend anders dan Walen? Onze Vlaams Germaanse achtergrond is een wereld van verschil met de Romaanse Walen zowel op vlak van cultureel en politiek alsook onze algemene mentaliteit. België is geen natiestaat maar bestaat uit 3 verschillende volkeren. Dit wil natuurlijk niet zeggen dat België geen bestaansrecht heeft, we hebben ondertussen een gezamenlijke geschiedenis opgebouwd die nooit zal verdwijnen. Het zal moeite kosten, zeker op politiek vlak, om onze verschillen niet te groot laten worden als we ons land willen behouden.
@Rosi_in_space
@Rosi_in_space 6 років тому
Belgium is divided because it is the swinging door of Europe...
@FDNY101202
@FDNY101202 5 років тому
UUF
@bigozimak
@bigozimak 6 років тому
My head hurts when I think of Belgium and Switzerland. How do they even function with two or three official languages?
@Surtak
@Surtak 6 років тому
You think that's special? A lot of countries have multiple official languages. Russia has six.
@jgroenveld1268
@jgroenveld1268 6 років тому
Switzerland does a better job than Belgium and political situation in Belgium between each language group is our biggest issue.
@nietname2468
@nietname2468 6 років тому
Michael Aleksovski switzerland has 4 languages and generally the whole system of our state is built on a different idea.
@Beggar42
@Beggar42 6 років тому
Federal and Brussels' laws are published with a Dutch and French version side by side. As in, two columns each taking up one side of the page. Since absolutely 100% accurate translations are nigh impossible, it's always the version of the law in the local language that applies. I.e. in Flanders, it's the Dutch version, in Wallonia, it's the French (and German in the case of Eupen and Sankt Vith). It helps that French is a mandatory subject in Flemish schools (primary and middle) and Dutch in the Walloon schools. When Belgians from different language groups need to communicate, there's usually a brief negotiation of sorts to see who speaks the other's language better and you continue in that language. What also often happens is that each side just speaks their own language, which the other side understands, thanks to the aforementioned education system. An interresting aside is that Belgium has extensive anti-discrimination laws, covering race, religion, gender, age, sexual orientation ... but curiously omitted is language. It IS legal to discriminate based on someone's native language. Make of that what you will.
@jinxd511
@jinxd511 6 років тому
nah Russia have only 1. Russia. others are just for very little minorities and never in main big cities only in vilalges.
@helenache851
@helenache851 7 місяців тому
Ik ben van belgië en jou videos zijn top , maak veel want uw informatie is wel spanned
@historynerd556
@historynerd556 2 роки тому
I do love that he actually pronounces the Dutch names correctly.
@saepe6772
@saepe6772 2 роки тому
he is dutch.
@kassiperpro1378
@kassiperpro1378 6 років тому
2:08 LMAOOO i can't breathe XD XD Geweldig XD Leve willem se zwijger!
@clemish7090
@clemish7090 4 роки тому
LOL IK GA DOOD VAN HET LACHEN
@noahtonnekreek719
@noahtonnekreek719 4 роки тому
Het is van studio massa, ze hebben veel meer van deze shit
@clemish7090
@clemish7090 4 роки тому
Noah Tonnekreek echt waar? Trouwens ik ben vlaamder
@noahtonnekreek719
@noahtonnekreek719 4 роки тому
IWaterFlaME - IMasteRS jep, zoek maar op, het is geweldig
@clemish7090
@clemish7090 4 роки тому
Okee lmao
@phil..rubi123
@phil..rubi123 5 років тому
5:00 Wasn’t the liberation also due to the fact that the south of the Netherlands (aka Belgium) was predominantly Catholic but the government in the north (in Amsterdam or Haag?) was Protestants? So it was also the classic religious divide. I’m I correct Hilbert?
@olivierbataille1998
@olivierbataille1998 5 років тому
Indeed but this was one of several reasons.
@Deines7
@Deines7 5 років тому
Nowadays religion not major player in the Netherlands or Flanders. Germany also half protestant and catholic.
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos
@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos 3 роки тому
Yep, and Belgium wasnt represented well enough to our liking in the government
@j.p.vanbolhuis8678
@j.p.vanbolhuis8678 3 роки тому
It was the perception that was put forward at the time, (and still is). Religion did play a role, and much of the unrest was formented by the bishops in "belgium" ( quotation marks because belgium did not exist at that moment. Not because it does not exist now :) ). In reality NL has never been a protestant majority country.....
@RVP4Crew
@RVP4Crew 4 роки тому
Thx for the simplified and consequently not comprehensive view on my country. Broadstrokes, but generally accurate enough. Could you provide references for the claim that post-war investment focused more on the northern part of the country? I find this an interesting angle that I had not heard of before. Thx again for the effort and the playful rendition of a Groot-Nederlandse flag. Quite innovative.
@theRealAric25
@theRealAric25 Рік тому
I really appreciate the pronunciation. History is awesome!
@sweetsweetwafflecones2747
@sweetsweetwafflecones2747 6 років тому
Hiya Hilbert, great video! As a Walloon, just letting you know that there are almost no differences between “Walloon french” and “French french”. The difference is comparable to British English and American English. The only huge difference I can think of is that we have different words for 70 and 90. Keep making these they’re great!
@sweetsweetwafflecones2747
@sweetsweetwafflecones2747 6 років тому
Also I’m 100% certain that Waterloo is Walloon, all the signs are in french, all the people speak french and I googled it too so...
@mad_haunter
@mad_haunter 11 місяців тому
This is not true at all, most french are totally unable to understand Walloon, there's similarities because French and Wallon have the same origin (Langue d'oil) but that's it
@ivanmacgar6447
@ivanmacgar6447 8 місяців тому
​@@mad_haunteryeah, French and Walloon are different languages coming from the Langues d'Oïl branch of Galloromance languahes, but the truth is that he's refering to the French spoken in Wallonia/Belgium as opposed to the French spoken in France, not comparing French and Walloon.
@Fenris77
@Fenris77 6 років тому
French have this tendency to oppress other linguistic groups and cultures.
@Fenris77
@Fenris77 5 років тому
True the English have been and in some minor way still opresses the Welsh and the Northern Irish (The REAL Irish not the Anglo-Scottish settlers). But France even went as far as forbidding especially the Betons from speaking and reading their own language plus the fact that while english speakers may often be arrogant they do have the ability to learn other languages and showing at least a modicum of respect most french today won't even learn any other language than french. The French opression of Breton and Flanders has been a remaining problem even today. Of course not to forget how Russia keep oppressing other cultures and linguistic groups within their precieved sphere.
@Fenris77
@Fenris77 5 років тому
I meant that the flemmish (I think the language is called that as well) have been under the boot so to speak. I started learning english very early thanks to watching movies in english with swedish text of course and then basically started learning just like that (I would have learned french but sadly in my childhood I only truly liked one french made movie and that was the "Black Tulip"). How about the Elsas/Lothringe german in the border between France and Germany? The Breton was punished rather harsh after WW2 and historicaly the pre revolutionary France had an ancient marriage alliance with Bretagne which was broken when the royal family was murdered/executed and the republicans was the ones that started the true oppression there. But UK their history with their celtic peoples started when the Saxons became more powerful though except for a few areas like Ulster they worked more sinister tricks in "making the world England" by placing settlers all over the place and then it was the english church especially after the brake with Rome (Bibles was written in English after that which simply made it worse). The Scottish (An entire nation of big mouths) basically screwed themselves in the language department centuries before the conquest/Union.
@melvinobianyor4919
@melvinobianyor4919 5 років тому
The spanish aswell
@Fenris77
@Fenris77 5 років тому
Well, the nobility spoke french in England after Hastings at least the Normand nobility just like in Sweden the "official" language was northern german and remained even long after the Hansa was defeated.
@mircomartinez2666
@mircomartinez2666 5 років тому
@Super Doggo Huh? Most Alsatians and Lorrainians are ethnic German though. Best example for this would be Griezmann, at least until his father married his Portoguese mother or Sébastien Loeb.
@christopherdieudonne
@christopherdieudonne 3 роки тому
Great video However, you never mentioned why Brussels is French speaking but it's located in the Flemish part of the country. Is that information in another video you've made?
@Dybbouk
@Dybbouk 2 роки тому
Well done! Great doc!
@joshou3759
@joshou3759 6 років тому
#BELGIANLIVESMATTER
@MrEvanfriend
@MrEvanfriend 6 років тому
Belgian beers matter.
@koenbobeldijk
@koenbobeldijk 6 років тому
Joshou late comment but i spotted the ISP fan
@nlbro2483
@nlbro2483 6 років тому
Joshou i would belgium was part of the netherlands
@josephancion2190
@josephancion2190 6 років тому
Nidhogg Well, the french aren't bothered by the crime they're committing while smoking weed, they smoke more of it than The Netherlands.
@lennertdejaegher8947
@lennertdejaegher8947 6 років тому
inserts stille Willem
@Simon-dd2nt
@Simon-dd2nt 2 роки тому
There are so many inaccuracies in this video it's hard to know where to start. The map showing the divide between France and the holy roman Empire is completely false. The only part of modern day Belgium that was once a part of France was actually Flanders (the original county, not modern day Flanders). All the rest was part of the holy roman empire, and included both flemish and walloon speaking parts. During the 80 years wars, the Dutch did not manage to conquer/liberate most of the southern part, not because they spoke French, but because they were much more catholic than in the North, and therefore remained mostly loyal to the (very catholic) king of Spain. It has nothing to do with a language divide in that case. The perpetuation of the Flemish nationalist myth that Flemish soldiers died needlessly because they could not understand the orders has been thoroughly debunked, and it has actually been shown that the proportion of deads was consistent with that of the population (60% Flemish, 40% walloons). Anyway, poor walloons did not speak French either. Again it was a class divide more than an 'ethnic' one. Rich people (and therefore officers) spoke French, while the folks spoke their dialects. Saying that the Walloons don't want autonomy is also false. The Walloons are the ones that actually pushed for devolution in the first place. Walloon politicians just don't want to admit it publicly so that they can blame the Flemish for the destruction of Belgium. The idea of Brussels being culturally Walloon is also inaccurate. Wallonia is a mostly rural region, and Brussels is a big city. People from Bussels tend to look down on Walloons which they see as peasants. They look down on the Flemish too for the same reasons. Walloons might actually have more in common with the Flemish than they do with People from Brussels. Finally this idea that the various regions of Belgium would split and join neighbouring countries speaking their respective language is just a pipe 'dream' kept alive by a very tiny minority of Belgians. This idea is probably appealing to the said countries because it would allow them to increase their territory, but Belgians don't want it. It's nice trying to explain Belgium, but unfortunately this video just repeats clichés and misconceptions that have been mostly made up by politicians on both sides to divide an conquer, and it's not helpful at all. The real story is much more complicated than that. Walloons and Flemish have much more in common that even They think they do, and they are certainly much closer to each other than they are to any other neighbouring country.
@jandron94
@jandron94 2 роки тому
"Walloons and Flemish have much more in common that even They think they do" Well If you know and the don't then you'd better start letting them know that they are ignorant on this. Are there any Bruxellois who don't know nothing about Flanders ? (and who don't care about Flanders ?). I thought language was uniting people. Maybe the English language ?
@fetilu0975
@fetilu0975 Рік тому
@@jandron94 The "une fois" in french comes from the "eens" in ndls, and people speak dutch are adding more and more french into their vocab (especially the young people)
@xavialguer1769
@xavialguer1769 Рік тому
Awesome video!
@superbibibobo
@superbibibobo 6 років тому
At around 8:00, when you talk about the fact that Flemish didn't understand the orders they were given, bear in mind that the Walloons were speaking walloon, and didn't understood french either. Only the richer parts of society spoke french, and that goes for both part of Belgium.
@roadstersmart
@roadstersmart 5 років тому
Bullshit only a rare part of Walloons speak walloon, french in Wallonie is similar of french in France, accent is different, some expressions are different but the langage is the same
@fabriceaxisa
@fabriceaxisa 5 років тому
in 1914, walloon lower class were speaking walloon, flemish lower class were speaking flemish, and belgium upper class were speaking french. And as a french I can tell you that when people are spaking walloon , I don't understand a word. Walloon is a latin language, and is a close to french than Italian is close to french.
@Valandix
@Valandix 5 років тому
The predominance of French comes at 1930 with some educationaI reforms in WaIIonia, but during WW1 "The patois" stiII the domestic Ianguage of the Iower cIass, and stiII in WaIIonia we don't foIIow the French Academy's ruIe of the Ianguage. The french in waIIonia is going to be more and more divergent Iike the French Quebecois.
@fetilu0975
@fetilu0975 Рік тому
It is even more absurd to have 1 national language when half the population uses another root language
@starcascooldemoulin131
@starcascooldemoulin131 6 років тому
i actually learned more about my country in this video then i ever did at school
@roodborstkalf9664
@roodborstkalf9664 6 років тому
School are primarily intended for integrating young people in society, and not so much for learning things. So if you want to learn something forget schools. For the moment you can learn anything you want on the internet. Not sure if this will last.
@ilyaskir1601
@ilyaskir1601 4 роки тому
8:33 also the mines closed in Wallonië and they couldn’t do any economy whereas Flanders could do trade on sea
@BK-mh7lu
@BK-mh7lu 4 роки тому
Ilyas Kir ukposts.info/have/v-deo/pmR_jHpkqYuVomg.html
@rolandje
@rolandje 4 роки тому
Hilbert, where the duck are you from? Your accent and pronunciation is so on point, it is impossible for me to pinpoint where you are from. Please enlighten me!
@computerfan1079
@computerfan1079 4 роки тому
Utrecht? In ieder geval niet uit het zuiden
@ECrespo175
@ECrespo175 5 років тому
Shout out to all the Flemish people in Belgium. You guys are awesome and I felt I can always communicate with a Flemish person in English without any problem. I've been to Brussels 6 times and always had problems in restaurants. It was very different when I went to Antwerp, Brugge, Ghent and Leuven. My Flemish friends always made sure the Brussels waiter spoke to them in Flemish, they always told me that by law they're suppose to speak both languages dont know how accurate that is.
@stuffi3000
@stuffi3000 6 років тому
As a german-spaking Belgian, I would like to keep Belgium how it is now. We, the french-speaking, the dutch-speaking and the german-speaking, went through so much stuff together that it would be a real shame to remove all this and be annexed by the neighbour countries. We have something in common that cannot be explained, and I would rather fight to keep my country together that seeing it fall apart
@hamsterbacke5962
@hamsterbacke5962 6 років тому
Verdammt, ich hatte schon Pläne....😂😂😂😁
@nielss5945
@nielss5945 6 років тому
Oh so your argument is basically just because we've been through so much that the relationships needs to last even though it's clearly not working anymore if it ever has. You can see that's stupid I hope...
@dannystoffel3589
@dannystoffel3589 5 років тому
stuffi3000. ? look its 1 of them they are so rare to see 👈😀. Everybody loves you guys even me and im from antwerpen. You can com with us.
@STRAlGHTxEDGE
@STRAlGHTxEDGE 5 років тому
I've never met or seen a Belgian from the German speaking part. I thought you guys were myth, until today. This has changed my life forever. Just kidding, but it is the first time I encounter a German speaking Belgian as someone from Flanders which is kind of weird thinking about it since we have the same nationality.
@natnat9539
@natnat9539 5 років тому
there are like 80000 inhabitants who speak German in a real part in Belgium, everything is written in German,school only in german such a beautiful city Eupen, Malmedy, St vith ...
@danutzzz2064
@danutzzz2064 2 роки тому
As an expat living in Netherlands this clip helps :) Good job!
@o_d1559
@o_d1559 3 роки тому
what are the coats of arms at 1:36? I do not recognize the middle one and the right one is the Bohemian lion?
@theunundunly5368
@theunundunly5368 6 років тому
BELGIAN LIVES MATTER!!!!!
@flynn659
@flynn659 6 років тому
#Belgianlivesmatter
@blacktemplar9499
@blacktemplar9499 6 років тому
Nik yes they do well... the flemish part does
@flynn659
@flynn659 6 років тому
The Dutch are taking Belgians both wallonians and Flemish as pets. We should make it clear that the Belgian people are falling under ditch tyranny.
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 6 років тому
The Un Und Unly lol true
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 6 років тому
Good one,
@mkb6418
@mkb6418 6 років тому
Let it split already. Brussels can become a special district as capital of EU.
@Cheezymuffin.
@Cheezymuffin. 5 років тому
No, it will lay in the netherlands and we will get to make the rules
@lavadax2
@lavadax2 4 роки тому
Birgilios Marmaroglou I like that :)
@Cheezymuffin.
@Cheezymuffin. 4 роки тому
@The Flying Dutchman no, the entire EU must become dutch clay.
@titiusvicinius7041
@titiusvicinius7041 4 роки тому
@@Cheezymuffin. We'll see, *France get annexion war goals against netherlands*
@Cheezymuffin.
@Cheezymuffin. 4 роки тому
@@titiusvicinius7041 *gains militairy axess in france and executes order 66*
@MrMarty77
@MrMarty77 4 роки тому
To be honest, as a Flemish speaking Belgian I'd much rather see the 3 regions stripped of their autonomy, have 1 much smaller and more efficient government, and a better mix between the languages. It's a strength which I believe we're not exploiting enough.
@MrLyo0
@MrLyo0 4 роки тому
As a wallon I agree with you sadly our country is becoming more divided maybe one day we will have to fight each other for Brussel
@MrMarty77
@MrMarty77 4 роки тому
@@MrLyo0 I'd rather not
@delfien7243
@delfien7243 4 роки тому
Am I really the only Belgian who’s FUCKING PROUD OF MY LITTLE COUNTRY I MEAN we are so so small but still people know us
@youcanthandlethetruth8873
@youcanthandlethetruth8873 6 років тому
Stille Willem will never die.
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
kogelgaten in de muur, Duytschen bloed aan de wand, Doodgewone dag voor de Vader des Vaderlands
@timonheidema6837
@timonheidema6837 6 років тому
History With Hilbert Klinkt logisch
@wiluvivriends7105
@wiluvivriends7105 6 років тому
Ik noem willem
@arock9174
@arock9174 6 років тому
Could you make a video about the differences between German and Dutch language?
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
Coming up!
@fraser4982
@fraser4982 6 років тому
they are about as similar as English and German they are all Germanic languages sharing same base structure but apart form that they are different i mean i could never understand a German
@Diederikk
@Diederikk 6 років тому
Dutch people didn't consider their language a different language from High German until the end of the 17th century. And the languages were basically the same then. We used to call our language and ourselves 'Duytsch' until we became an independent state. Joost van den Vondel called himself a poet of the Duytsch language for example. There's poems complaining about the French influence in our beautiful 'Nederduits'. If it weren't for the Habsburgs marrying into Spain, we likely would've considered ourselves the same people as the Germans to this day. Which ethnically, we kind of are, but culturally for the most part not anymore. Also a pretty unpopular alternate history after the second world war. History is full of happenstance with huge significance for the future like that.
@ryanjuguilon7783
@ryanjuguilon7783 5 років тому
Had Charles V not inherited the crowns of Castille and Aragon the Netherlands would be the center of the Habsburg empire, not Austria. It was the richest portion of the Habsburg land, and being the central territory would not feel neglected as it was during Charles and Philips reign when it was ruled by a viceroy. With a smaller empire the Habsburg will not split their land. The younger branch will inherit Bohemia, the next most important part of HRE. Modern germany will include the low countries as well as Austria and Bohemia.
@silentgamer779
@silentgamer779 4 роки тому
hil btw ben je nederlands? ik hoor aan je manier van spreken.maak ook video van die crash tijd geleden op die brug waar alle auto's op mekaar stonden in brand etc
@mmneander1316
@mmneander1316 4 роки тому
I like your flag design on the right at 14:35 !
@planets9102
@planets9102 6 років тому
Both Dutch and and French are spoken in Brussels
@cas.l9615
@cas.l9615 5 років тому
Sweaty anime nerd But most French
@Vincrand
@Vincrand 4 роки тому
I've been to Brussel a couple of times, good trying to get around with only Dutch. There is a vast majority French speaking. On top of this the French speaking don't have to learn Flemish/Dutch, but the Flemish do have to learn French.
@arnaudselvais6897
@arnaudselvais6897 4 роки тому
Haha lol, first langage in brussels, french, second langage, Arabian, third langage, English. Then indeed a bit of Dutch, mostly worker of the day.
@arnaudselvais6897
@arnaudselvais6897 4 роки тому
@@Vincrand that's not true, both communities have to learn the other langage at school.
@Vincrand
@Vincrand 4 роки тому
@@arnaudselvais6897 Since when? 2005-2010 it wasn't the case. If I remember correctly it is/was due to a trade deal. Also I've been t Brussels 4 times, Liège 3 times and have been on a holiday in the Ardennes. In non of these place could a native French speaker understand my Dutch (including the tourism sector). I'm Dutch, went to school in Flanders and French is the only class I failed (I'm borderline dyslextic and yes this has been tested). So I prefer to avoid speaking French.
@redgrassgirl
@redgrassgirl 6 років тому
So many videos 😍😍
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
It's the Christmas Special innit
@redgrassgirl
@redgrassgirl 6 років тому
Daddy Christmas came early? ;)
@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer
@AidanTheLoverBoyOhDwyer 3 роки тому
hilbert i really hope you can answer my question because i have been searching for it and so far no reasonable answer yet if belgium were to split into three entities wallonia and flanders and liege the current monarchy would not pick liege for sure so would the current monarchy be the monarchs of wallonia or monarchs of flanders i would like to know your opinion badly stay safe
@Pieter_Lion
@Pieter_Lion 4 роки тому
I applaud your dutch pronounciation, its perfect, i couldnt tell if you’re actually from belgium or the UK
@angelotjuhh8911
@angelotjuhh8911 4 роки тому
Haahah me too
@TheCedixd
@TheCedixd 6 років тому
Quiet sad, tou didn't talk much about Eastbelgium. Our part is often forgotten by the Belgian, so please internet, don't forget us :)
@nielshosdez4435
@nielshosdez4435 5 років тому
Its wonderfull OstBelgiën😘
@mad_fleming
@mad_fleming 2 роки тому
Finding an OstBelgien is like finding a unicorn :D. What do you guys think about the ehrm struggles between Flanders and the French-speaking?
@Beksgaard
@Beksgaard 6 років тому
Slight danish protest: You make it look like Danmark was part of the Holy Roman Empire. We never were!
@lutzvonpeter9170
@lutzvonpeter9170 4 роки тому
Excellent again. How can someone not living in Belgium sum up this twisted mess so succinctly? I am impressed.
@Michformer
@Michformer 5 років тому
And I thought Quebec and Cameroon had quirky linguistic schisms...
@aaronblyth2108
@aaronblyth2108 6 років тому
I met some Flanders Separatists at a Scottish Independence rally a few years back (2014 ish)‚ if I remember correctly they where split between full on Independence and joining the Netherlands. I also met some Italian separatists who wanted Venice to become Independent.
@treehugger3615
@treehugger3615 6 років тому
All funded from Moscow. Foolish twerps.
@aaronblyth2108
@aaronblyth2108 6 років тому
Sorry‚ what's funded by Moscow? You're claiming that European separatists are being funded by the Russian government?
@freekmulder3662
@freekmulder3662 6 років тому
In a survey from 2016 it was shown that out of all the European minorities the Venetians want independence. Around 60%. I never knew that PS: if I find the survey I will post it
@aaronblyth2108
@aaronblyth2108 6 років тому
Wow that's crazy dude. Venice should definitely try and go Independent. Hopefully the rest of us will follow soon!
@freekmulder3662
@freekmulder3662 6 років тому
I love Balkanization!!!
@truckerallikatuk
@truckerallikatuk 6 років тому
More stuff on Belgium A.U.B.! Dank U Wel for a great vid, from a Brit who loves Vlaanderen
@historywithhilbert146
@historywithhilbert146 6 років тому
More coming up!
@Lady_Odi
@Lady_Odi 6 років тому
i love britain - a flemish person who loves britain XD
@callmesenorita6596
@callmesenorita6596 6 років тому
Alleen spijtig dat die zegt dat vlaams een taal is xD
@oegaboy
@oegaboy 6 років тому
Das begot een dialect. Flemish is not 1 language/dialect. In each state they speak a dialect of flemish/dutch. For instance, people from Limburg might not even be able to understand how people from West-Vlaanderen pronounce the same words. One is fast and one is slow.
@matthiassneyers2627
@matthiassneyers2627 6 років тому
Interesting, did you also mention the *gulden sporenslag*? that's also a very historic event that the flemish speakers started killing french and then flanders was founded, woot. :p
@yasiralipalh8306
@yasiralipalh8306 5 років тому
Is this divide only due to separate languages or is there much more to it that I'm not understanding?
@mowvu5380
@mowvu5380 3 роки тому
i love this channel. but what are you hilbert? lol, i love language, accents, flags and geography. are you an englishman that has lived in the netherlands? or married a beautiful dutch person? forgive my nosiness haha. top channel and top lad.
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