Only way is through a deus ex machina helios ending. Which strips away our core being of humanity. Are we truly willing to remove what makes us, us?

@@UtubeH8tr Nah, we only need a common enemy. Something that forces us to join under a common banner. As long as we keep thinking that we are the most powerful and advanced creature we keep fighting with each other.

@@Moukula Look at the Red menace Commie scare and german reich regime. Worked for a while, then 70's hippies generation came in and quashed it along with nuclear energy.

The only reason we don´t get along on a global scale is because our leaders constantly fight about resources and territory. If someone like the Romans had actually succeeded in conquering the world and we all had one language, culture and leader who divided resources according to the greater good of the entire empire we would have little reason to fight with one another on a large scale.

The humans in mars got in a nuclear war among themselves

you've a point.

Maybe they have and we don’t know. If they are that advanced it would be easy.

And it's utter arrogance, that such a civilisation would have any care for us, if indeed they knew we existed.

well just think about a type 2 civilization encountering a 0.73 type civilization would be a waste of time for them. We are soo technologically behind compared to a civilization that can harness the energy of the sun. It would be like humans encountering ants building their ant mounds and gathering blades of grass. Wed get bored and move on in a minute. lol

@@David-qo3wm agreed

I am with you.

That situation is called religion!

We couldnt even fathom such a civilization. It's just as silly as watching old black white movies that showed what the 21st century would look like. 🤣🤣🤣

Exactly. Once again we’re proving our race to be close minded and that only the rules we make are truth.

we would likely notice the lack of infrared energy and that would be our sign

But why would you expend resources harvesting all waste infra red radiation when you already have access to almost infinite energy already?

Type 2 only harnessing its star, infra red from another star still available

Wrong. It would emit SO MUCH infrared radiation. All that waste heat would be infrared. You cannot trap that waste without killing everything you made, including yourself. And that would just ensure the waste escaped then. It's not that you wouldn't bother to harness it but you cannot harness it.

What if the alien civilization has progressed as much as ours did? I guess it all comes down to what makes their *thinking organs* tick. I don't think humanity has still answered the question of "why we fight?", yet we expect aliens civilizations to do better. We have no idea of how intelligent alien life would develop their conciousness. Will they be a united peaceful planet, exploring the universe? or will they be as confused as we are? Do we consider human civilization as one civilization? I guess the majority of people don't. We are spread through different countries, economies, languages, customs. The part of the world we deem as the most "advanced" is only doing slightly better than the rest, concerning killing each other and hoarding weapons. We still fight over the resources in our planet, heck, we fight over resources that we have invented (money!). How do we expect alines to better us? I think, if we meet our counterparts - we will just start another cold war soon after. It's always a story of "us" and "them", unfortunately.

We are the real aliens. But there's many species of other races

@anton161817 I think he is right. According to theology, human can't see Alien (people from another planet) because human can be a sinner. We always make sins, a simple sins like lying to ourselves is also counted. Other species can see us, but they don't have anything with us, they are very far different than us, and don't want to make any contact, they just want to live, and they don't know how to make sins. Also God forbid them to encounter us.

I have two big theories about Alien: 1. They have very different physique and need than us. For example, we drink water, they drink gas. They drink diamonds, we drink water. Their body shape will be according to what they eat, drink, and their enviroment. Maybe some Alien live on the sun, they drink heat from the sun, we call if absorb but they think that's how they eat, and their digest and body shape also different than us. 2. I read on Bible, there is a word, I forget what Testament, it said "We will go to father's house". Maybe we are on the middle of journey with galaxy as our plane. It is not just us, other species with different body shape and needs on another solar system but in the same galaxy. We don't know that this is a spaceship. An enviromental spaceship with renewable energy.

@@vivian9399 lolll they drink diamonds?? No aliens don't eat or drink in the 3rd dimension they are multidimensional just like we are but they were never from an outside source they have been around longer than us on this planet

most underrated comment, needs to be considered by more people

We cannot see them but they can see us, they should already know about us because worm holes were createdbby them in their earlier stage of civilization but they do not want to interfere, just like you don't care about flies in your garden.

Yup they still see dinosaurs on this planet they don't even know we exist yet. Time isn't as simple as we think

So time dilation interesting

no, not quite, its just as OP says, the further out you look, the further back your seeing, so even IF the Ay-lmaos could see us, they wouldnt being seeing "US" they would be seeing us as we WERE Xbillion years ago@@ivanalexandrinmatala3362

Star Trek's prime directive isn't all fiction. And keep in mind that with the possible scope of ET races that might be all out there, would they all follow the same doctrine?

Stellaris

I just think that they made a promise not to interfere with us because we suck as a species

@@drakearvidsson6936 we do not suck as species. Some humans are awful, but as a whole species we're an amazing one. We care enough about each other that we cure them and treat their illnesses, we sacrifice our lives for the ones we love so they can live. We do not suck as a species

⁠@@johnfkennedy8281you must be proud of being a human eh. Do you show off in front of animals because you are a human. There’s still so much sh*t going on in the world that’s why we still suck. Human beings are so egoistic and greedy it’s crazy. Unlike animals we know what right or wrong but we still do many bad things

So do you really think a civilisation of type 5 or type 6 would resort to such a way of so called reproduction... Like in my wildest dreams i would never think that any civilisation of such level capable of Multiverse if not intergalactic travel would reproduce and resort to sex 😂

Hard to say, when it comes to beings that are not bound by space, by time and by our universe. Although they may not be altogether omniscient, they will undoubtedly understand everything there is to know about the laws of the universe/multiverse.

True I agree with you.

Wouldn't be humans and the rate of change and discovery would be similar. You see how quick ChatGPT has grown? Just wait until there are consumer humanoid robots. Even if you were type 6 would you have those endless resources at your disposal? It's going to be a while before I can afford to launch myself into space let alone the moon.

... but we'd miss Chipotle.

😂😂😂

Im pretty sure type 7 civilization is even more powerful than our god, since they doesn’t even care about little cells like us, and our “gods” will at least be boring enough to set up religions

Probably

We are in a bubble in the center of the universe

It's more like cells for humans. Hope we r not some acne or a fart

Wrapping yourself around the sun seems like a dumb idea, just putting it out there

You sure about that? I wouldn’t be *except that the better ideas are mods to the original idea. This video is too exaggerated and stupid for me to watch so I’m not sure what he actually describes.

@@BravoRoxyou must not have learned a lot of physics, astronomy, engine theory, etc. there’s many separate reasons why it’s the best solution to different dimensions of the power plant problem. So you’re wrong in a bunch of ways, if you insult me enough I might just explain them to you to help your brain wrinkle up a bit.

1. you harvest materials from the belt / other planets 2. you construct the damn thing in space, not on a planet. 3. assembly is done by machines & AI 4. patience. your grandkids will see it completed, not you. and voila, u have a dyson sphere. does it sound outlandish? well does all this talk about civilization types NOT sound outlandish? a DS would be childs play. its a freaking construct. meanwhile we're watching videos about bending our own wormholes. THATS outlandish.

That's what I'm saying. If we can travel the cosmos to gather the materials for the sphere, I'm sure we could find better way to harvest energy at that point.

That’s old news mate the gods our ancestors talk about were advanced space travelers even the Christian god

Science becomes religion in the absence of religion. Religion itself is not bad, it gives people a moral framework and purpose.

​​​@@gainfrompainrecordlabel3229pretending to have read a book will reveal you've never read it. Judeo christian God said he created the universe, not a space traveler. First chapter of Genesis.

@@SavedByGrace1987 Kmt then explain what this god is,is he some supernatural person s that has the world in his hands and no the word god was mistranslated its a plural word that means those from above that’s y in genesis it says let us now make man in our own image, if the god/gods in the Bible not space travelers then explain Ezekiel wheels within wheels,Jacobs ladder,or Elijah’s chariot of fire,don’t respond to my comment until you have a logical explanation

@@gainfrompainrecordlabel3229 first off apologies, my response was a bit rude. Revelation is a good book to read, last book of the bible as well. The universe starts to unravel etc., and in genesis he makes it. Time light, matter. God is Eternal, and outside of time, and the laws of physics that exist here. He says to these prophets like moses and others that he always was. Hd made it all so he has to be outside of it. I don't think they are made of the same things we are made of. We have no idea what type of matter if its even matter at all. God is something different. The Angels are created though. Other dimensions i guess. So God ks not a traveler he's the Creator. Yeah i know i went down those rabbit holes with the ancient aliens and chariots of the gods too, its interesting, but you're not getting the whole story. Yeah God is three persons, Jesus the Father, and the Holy spirit. Jesus referred to the father and the holy spirit, and himself as three different persons, but he also said he was from everlasting.

My biggest issue, is it was created generations ago... and as a model, is wrong.

Same issue with most people assuming and theorizing that they have their own gods just because their religious books told them so...

​@horridwilting640 Yeah these people be like "oh religion is false, I'm smarter than that" and then believe the BS in this video based on faith alone, pretty ironic XD

Imo Type 5-7 civilization only can create dyson sphere

@@peterhiser7883Do you know what a hypothesis is?

Because humans are born arrogant and only care about itself.

Naw it won't, kinda glad it won't.

Let's say it would be mind blowing

@@BravoRox you are glad humanity won't ever work together, or just doubt that we ever will?

@@mharmic1 I doubt we ever will

That's the wrong way to think about energy generation. Antimatter collision does indeed convert mass into energy with effectively 100% efficiency - except that's only one tiny piece of the puzzle. First you need to actually get some antimatter, which doesn't seem to be very abundant in this universe. Making antimatter yourself, for example in a particle accelerator, wastes a million times more energy. Second you need to store the antimatter, which would also be energetically costly. Third, a mechanism that controls the release of antimatter and contains all the energy released. Fourth, a means of converting that energy into useful work.

The reason stars are worth extracting energy from is because they're "naturally occurring" - most importantly you only need to worry about the energy harvesting part of the equation. There are other major benefits of course - stars are incredibly stable, and as they're already burning, it would be a waste not to use the energy they generate.

Almost all of the ways of theoretically generating energy are totally infeasible for actually doing useful work (in the technical sense). Not to say humanity couldn't be missing something - obviously there's a lot we still don't know - but physicists with a love for sci fi aren't blind, they have a good idea of what does and doesn't work.

​@@GeekProdigyGuyyeah what does and doesnt work according to our understanding of things, what the original comment is basically saying is that we are projecting our own human theories onto these possible civilizations that are so much further advanced than anything we could possibly imagine, not to mention the fact that they would originate from a part of the universe that is completely different than ours, and so we have no idea what is and isn't capable

@@charlesguillergan8759 IMO, that's only a reasonable thing for sci-fi writers. Anybody can assume anything about the universe. Especially if you are invoking a well-understood concept like antimatter, you should at least take into account what we already know about it.

What are some of the other factors?

@@HighlanderCounselling Carl Sagan proposed the quantity of information a civilation can generate

You just want to lower the bar so that we are no longer at 0

​@@HighlanderCounsellinghow finely can a civilisation manipulate and harness its environment:- Type 0 can only manipulate bulk mass , they use catapults as their strongest weapons can build structures ranging from mammoth skin and bone huts to stone cities, their primary fuel is wood and maybe animal fats Type 1 uses advanced chemical fuels like coal and oil and can control bulk mass better like using steel to build skyscrapers, their characteristic technology is gun power ! They also use chemical rockets for space travel Type 2 has discovered fission and fusion and want to use it for everything ( we had skipped this phase but we are now circling back) Type 2 can control its environment even finer by going beyond chemical bonds into the atom itself. They can also mine space and have fusion on the high end. Type 3 has mastered the atom so completely that they can use cold fusion routinely virtually ending poverty overnight. Type 3 also uses lasers and plasma a lot. They probably dont have any turbines or noisy engines , they use plasma to move the air or water itself,they can afford this because of their vast energy reserves Type 3 defining technology is transmutation, they can easily transform one element into another as needed They probably cannot afford to fight because they have all cold fusion bombs Type 3 can afford permanent human settlement in space Type 4 has truly mastered physical materials, literally everything they use is a metamaterial, their technology is so efficient they can power a house with a piece of wood for a year without using nuclear technology. Their vehicles are so strong and aerodynamic, they can cross the planet using energy of a normal car battery. At their apex they have nanorobots which can do anything and i mean anything!! Type 5 can utilize and manipulate quantum effects as the basis of their civilization, they have things like super conductors as a normal thing and can transmit more than just information via quantum means, they transmit energy itself, Type 5 is the level of biological mastery, they have artificial photosynthesis that can feed the entire planet using one square km of land, they probably also use biological computing and can cure any disease in seconds Control of quantum level allows many impossible things i can't list them all Type 6 is the level that can pinch the space-time itself and use it regularly. Forexample this type used gravitational waves for communication and sensing among other things i probably can't imagine They may also find it as easy to use zero point energy as we currently use hydropower This types nuclear control is so advanced they can also build antimatter and use it like normal fuel Type7 can truly dominate spacetime such that they can have scifi like artificial gravity on their spaceships, this is the first true space faring civilization, thats what that level of control allows They frequently levitate stuff and can do things only possible in cartoons Type8 is the type which knows what dark energy or dark matter is and can harness it. This level can travel the entire universe without limitations because at the speed of light is no longer a limit. So as you see the kardashev scale is a rather crude and innacurate measure pf advancement of civilization. Total Energy doesn't really Reveal just what a civilisation is capable of

I posted above that I think a good scale is the level of EXPLORATION of the universe (or universes or dimensions etc) that a civilization has proven itself capable of. For example, we have fully explored our own world (not internally and maybe not fully in some hard to reach areas like deep sea trenches), sent people to our moon, sent unmanned probes to other parts of our solar system, one of them past our solar system and soon (maybe 30 years?) people to MARS. A problem I have with defining advancement only with "energy control" is what if a world builds a machine of some kind that sends its citizens out to explore other star systems but unlike that bullcrap Michio Kaku spits out they cannot "control the weather" and "play with stars". Should we not consider them advanced? I think LEVEL OF EXPLORATION ACHIEVED should be how advancement is judged or at least ONE of the scales.

They are more likely to use nukes than to work together

Dyson spheres are retarded anyways. “Hey let’s capture all the energy of a sun, that totally doesn’t need to be distributed amongst a solar system for like, terrestrial life and climates and shit, all this is here for us to take and use right now because we know best, look at what we made”

You know what we need: an Emporer followed by unification wars to formulate an Imperium. Is this sounding familiar to you? (Hint warhammer 40k)

You mean all the worl leaders are ran by vile families that dont even deal in paper money. They deal in countries, resources, and people as currency.

You think world leaders are the issue? It’s the rich. The people with unlimited money behind the scene pulling the strings of your puppets you call world leaders.

We sure are, not you though. You great thinker you

Is he wrong tho @@FearzThug

It’s yet to be seen if self-centeredness is a positive or negative species trait to possess in the context of galactic survival.

@@ryanhughes1101it’s absolutely a positive trait when it comes to survival as a species on a galactic scale. I don’t give a shit about eradicating a hostile race of aliens as long as humans continue to survive. Shit, i’d vontuneer to press the button for it

That's my problem with religion, it feels like we're assuming our tiny earth is the main narrative. I don't think we are anything but a random planet somwhere, far far far from the center of the universe. I grew up in Sweden though, almost everyone is atheist here so I just wanna think logically and think what may be out there. If there is a creator of sorts, then our planet is just one of billions of billions. Not very special probably :) But that doesn't make life less beautiful to me.

Most underrated comment here.

Wrong Dyson. This was Miles Dyson the creator of Skynet neural net processor, not the vacuum merchant.

They probably just put stars into a tardis.

Open minded enough to consider possibilities yet just short sighted enough to still be human. 😂

Wait a Minute What if T2 civilization already Exists but we can't see them because they Block Their own Suns and no light means no Visuals

more like control the flux of energy of the star, of can redirect light to warm distant objects like Mars. Also the quantity of materials needed can lead to planetary disassembly.

Yes but not like you think. We'd need to use those planets to build a device that large since the entirety of earth simply isn't big enough to provide to raw materials. Jupiter is the only planet that we can't live without. That's because it's gravity keeps the majority of planet destroying objects from hitting earth. But if humans gain the knowledge to build such a device as a Dyson sphere we probably can figure out how to keep planet destroying objects from hitting earth as well. Who really knows though. It's all theoretical wishful thinking at this point.

Blocking the sun entirely would have significant consequences for our solar system regardless of whether a civilization is classified as a Type 2 civilization on the Kardashev scale. A Type 2 civilization is defined as having the ability to harness and use the energy output of an entire star in this case our Sun. Such a civilization would typically be highly advanced technologically and capable of manipulating stellar energy on a massive scale. If a Type 2 civilization were to block the sun's light and energy it could disrupt the delicate balance of our solar system. The Sun is the central source of energy that sustains all life on Earth. It provides heat and light drives the climate system and is crucial for the growth of vegetation through photosynthesis. Blocking the sun entirely could lead to a rapid cooling of the Earth causing the atmosphere to freeze and the extinction of most forms of life.Moreover the Sun's gravity holds the planets in orbits and any disturbance to this gravitational balance could lead to significant disruptions in the solar system. For example without the gravitational pull of the Sun the stability of the planetary orbits would be compromised potentially leading to collisions or ejections of planets from the solar system. Therefore while a Type 2 civilization might have the technological capability to block the sun it would be unlikely to do so as it would have severe consequences for the entire solar system including their own planet.

Dyson spheres seem ridiculous. An absolutely absurd amount of work and material to build a structure around a star. I'd wager that civilizations advanced enough to even pull this off would probably find more practical ways to harness energy.

Yeah, clearly 7 is "Thou art God himself". Kardashev is a stupid scale to measure anything by.

That doesn't make any sense since the Q can travel through time at will, making them a type 6 civilization. Not to mention the overcoming of cause and effect limitations. The very lesson Q was trying to teach Picard in the last two episodes of TNG.

@@seraphimvalkyrin4543 we might meet them after death who knows

You disappoint me Jean-Luc...

You're high or need phycological help

There is a ‘world’ called titan. It’s actually a moon of Saturn. It’s one of the few other worlds in the solar system that sustains liquid lakes on its surface. Those lakes are methane

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@@my_father_sorry_i_am_lying_now 🤨

I love this lol

Anime is gay

Wtf are those

We wouldn't need the sun if we could make a sphere that big we would have so much energy that we could probably find a way to help our plant thrive of even be able to control the solar system as a whole

Yep. God.

Or maybe we can travel faster than light?

@@Jee2024IIT The UFO/UAP whistleblower just stood in front of congress and said It derives itself from general relativity and quantum mechanics. Imagine a 3-D object such as yourself casting a shadow onto a 2-D surface. This is called the holographic principle. You can be projected from higher dimensional space to lower dimensional [space]. That was mind blowing.

Plot of The Expanse (Leviathan Wakes).

Its basically replacing God and letting him retire.

@@istaphobe god is probably a byproduct of the imagination of a tier 7 child

⁠​⁠@@josephjucker5620depends on which “god” if it’s an All-powerful God then he folds the type 7 civilization at will.

​@josephjucker5620 Ya I wonder who appeared in 20th century Portugal and how thousands of people witnessed a miracle or realized their clothes are dry and any skeptic their converted to catholicism. Hmmm... I wonder why it would take most stadiums in the world just to imprint Christ's image in a shroud. Riiiight an "imagination".

​@@istaphobeNo it practically wouldn't. A finite being could never become an omnipotent being unless it is by proxy.

In my opinion anything higher than type1 civilization is impossible and can only exist in someone's childish imagination.

A lot of this may simply be impossible. For instance, how do you even gather the resources to build a CPU? Let alone General Artificial intelligence.

Maybe Ai can upgrade itself without anyone doing anyone maybe it can find the super fuel needed for Dyson sphere it's just trial and error, with ai it's much faster

@@FLLLLORIDAMAN quite easily, they are made from locally abundant silicon! Took a very few years for us to progress from simple electro mechanical computers to the CPUs we have now. Constructing anything at all in the near vacuum of space from local materials is a more bit tricky. Maybe take a conveniently placed planet and somehow atomise it?? Using some sort of easy to find planet cracking energy.... But that would only give you a ring.... and beyond that you'd be looking for some more new and magical processes to produce a sphere that could harvest the star's energy. Pure fantasy IMO....

@@exe9805 AI? ... Computer says 'NO!'

Who's the scientist in this one? Is the Narrator a scientist? I'm a bit skeptical of any scientist who talks about "pure energy".

Nor cure disease

its almost laughable we have not gotten more out of solar energy yet. we create these giant power plants where we do super scientific stuff on a microscopic scale involving tremendous speeds, temperatues and what not. but we cannot COLLECT more energy from the sun. we need to up our game. massively.

​​​@@kosmiqueSolar panels contain silver which is already being depleted. Plus they need go be replaced every 25 to 30 years. It takes fossil fuels to mine the silver and its estimated that there will be 80 megatonnes of waste panels by 2050. Solar panels are not the way forward long term. I wonder how they are going to harness the suns energy

@@kosmique Why do we need energy. what do we use it on. especially that much

Odd statement. I would think something super optimized. Would be something incredibly small to produce massive amounts of energy. Any civilization that is going to colonize a planet will need massive amounts of energy specially if their cells or biosphere is the least bit similar to ours.

Optimized energy usage is a thing, but there are physical limits to how much you can stretch energy usage. And at the same time all of these theories are human concepts, there might be civilizations way beyond our understanding. We as humans are young and know nothing of the universe in my eyes. Its like monkeys trying to understand calculus or beings from 2D trying to understand 3D.

@@Lennji Elon has a powerfull engine on a massive ship that runs on hydrogen. Nuclear plants are not needed in mars. In fact different forms of energy have been around for a very long time they just arent used because the world is ran by petrol criminals that will not be able to capitalize on something that runs on water or compressed air even lol.

Turtles baby

im sorry but religious myths made by early humans trying to figure out the world have no link to science fiction.... wait... or maybe they have... Anyway. It's like seeing shape in the clouds. Your mind try to see a connection but its an illusion

it’s possible that we may have been visited by type 7 beings in hopes that they would help our civilization grow

"Or in Washington DC" 🤣

I wanted to use this joke but I forgot that I serve in the US Navy. Dammit

Idk why but this comment is wholesome

I’d like to believe the same thing, nowadays we are faced with so many crises I only imagine it will get worse. Despite this generation not doing much to give me a lot of faith in them, I do believe there may be a chance for humanity to survive and later thrive to ascend to any one of these civilization types. I only wish I could be there to see it

Natural selection at a cosmic level.

Humanity has overcome so many supposed filters. In the 19th century humans believed to have reached an upper limit on what is possible to sustain in human population, that the 19th century would be followed by a century in decline, where millions starve to death, until a new cycle starts... and then Fritz Haber and Carl Bosch discovered the Haber-Bosch-Synthesis, with which to create fertilizer more or less out of thin air. Without that, we wouldn't be able to feed the billions of humans we have today and expecting some more billions to be added in the next decades. And after all, one guy theorized this and suddenly it is supposed to be a dogmatic law of nature? That thinking is imho too rigid, that guy could also be simply wrong and we could be just one of the first species in the known universe to come as far as we did, which would explain, why we didn't discover any aliens so far, we just got lucky.

But the thing is that we as an organism don't adapt or evolve. When great disasters wipes out majority only individuals who already had traits necessary to survive get to live and pass on their genes. That is how insects that are resistant to insecticides came to be and why we need to use more and more of them to protect crops.

Our limit/hardcap is Type 2 possibly, as that sounds somewhat plausible. But To reach Boundless Godhood that transcends the very idea of what is realy- Type 7 impossible, I think if there is Type 7 Civilization they are GODS, they always existed, will exits, Transcending all possile concepts Like Math, death, Life, Time, space, dimensionality.Esentialy All we see Now is Just Shadow Projected From Higher Layer of reality And Highest realm Would Be Realm of Type 7 Beings, wich is also Perfect and Place where all ideas and archetypes reside.

How do you know?

@@jimmcneal5292 Because I know that betting on a paralyzed horse is a bad idea and am simply applying the same logic.

@@CommodoreFloopjack78 Analogy is not an argument, and your is not even in any way reasonable

@@CommodoreFloopjack78 You're not betting against a paralyzed horse. You're betting against history.

This is what we as humans can only comprehend with our ability to think, imagine if there are beings out there with much larger intellectual level maybe even unlimited thinking abilities that see our struggles as a complete joke

Why shouldn't they? A type 3 civilization has colonized a whole galaxy, that a single event to one of these planets eradicates the whole civilization is highly unlikely.

Well put. Then DO exist at the same “time” just in vast diff regions of space , with TRILLIONS of billions of miles in between. Ya

thought like a human... in reality there are bound to be entire federations of aliens in the vastness of space. Statistics will always prove this right.

Only 1 and 2 level would be able to live in the same galaxy while being unoticed by each other .

I was thinking the same thing. It's basically a scientific theory of God. You have to think if such a thing could exist, being that it would take 10 duodecillion years to reach it which is unfathomably longer than the age of the universe, that such beings would have existed through countless deaths and rebirths of the universe or multiverse, and more or less control all of them.

The Lord created even type 7s.

​@@randybaumery5090In this hypothetical scenario, type 7 means the lord himself

The human idea of “god” requires humans to worship it. In reality, humans wouldn’t even be on a type 7 civilizations radar. We would be to them what a dust mite is to us. Probably even less than that.

@@digitalfootballer9032 Yeah pretty much. According to the theory a type 7 civilization/singularity/hivemind or whatever form it may take would be incorporeal, omnipresent, encompass all timelines and could freely travel anywhere in the Omniverse. Time and distance would not be an issue.

Yes, over exaggerated theories These intellectuals are unfit for survival even in intolerable heat of deserts or in snowy lands of North pole even on this planet earth. But, they spin theories of all types to console their intellectality.

This can happen

​@@Swaggywasherecan.. but definitely won't.. humans ain't gonna be around for long enough to see any of this happen sadly (or maybe not so sadly)

Something similar to this has been written by the man who claims that he has been with aliens

that's why they'll probably stay theories

Without theoretical intellect, we wouldn't have civilization.

Well, it does.

@@johndesalvo3348 That is true in many cases, yes. Regarding the content of this video, however, these “civilization types” sound like nothing more than an idea for a movie or comic book. Of course there is no way to tell the future so to speak, but spending a lot time and energy focusing on anything past this “type 0-1 civilization” (or our current state of civilization) is essentially just a fun game.

@@justinworthington8127 Closed-minded thinking like your is dangerous and does nothing to advance our civilization. Despite your lack of comprehension and vision the Civilization classes were theorized by some of the brightest Physicists of the last 50 years.. just because you can't imagine it DOES NOT MEAN similar advancements cannot be achieved in hundreds of years. The Internet would seem like magic to folks living as recently as the 1920s. How can you think what seems lije science fiction today won't be commonplace in 100, 200, 300 plus years. That's just assanine. The rate we are advancing in AI, and Quantum computing is at astonishing speeds. How can you not see all the advancements we've made since the late 1800s till now (more than at any other time in recorded history) and NOT be optimistic about what we can achieve 50 years from now. MANY of the technologies we have now we're not conceived of and would seem like fantasy to people living in the 170

There's no practice worth having without proper planning first. You know the Moon we landed? It used to be fiction and landing there used to be a mere imagination-provoking topic.

Yeah it's easy, I've also skipped grades and directly ascended to a higher dimension and going from tier 3 to tier 6 right awayby completing my aetherophasic engine, only took me a few hours!

since stars expire at some point, is it technically still free energy? i mean it basically "uses itself up" if we could put it that way. if it consumes rescources = its not free energy.

I feel like this is the “what the 1900s people think the 2000s would be like” all over again. As much as we can imagine and predict, the actual truth would be far from what we thought. So even if we did become a type I civilization within the next century, it would be drastically different. I do agree that we might achieve type I sooner than we think, since our growth has been exponential, but we will never know what would actually happens in the future.

agree

If there are aliens out there, I don't see it ending well for us. Given that they would've been monitoring our transmissions and would view us as a brutish warlike society incapable of working towards a peaceful universe.

​@@mikdale666you do have a point

@@mikdale666 most definitely, just imagine looking down this unknown civilization just to see them fighting eachother for resources or stupid reasons in a planet where we are already the dominant species it’s so ridiculous when u put in perspective

It wouldn't be a solid structure, rather, smaller structures orientated around the sun.

@@Doobency Even as a minimal construct, if it’s diameter is that of our orbit. There is still no doubt in my mind it would require more solid useful matter to create this than our local galactic neighborhood.

You're right there. To build a Dyson sphere takes an enormous amount of refined metals and materials. Far more than is generally available in any given solar system. The raw forms of those metals and materials only make up a small percentage of any given solar system, you'd need the metal of dozens if not hundreds of solar systems to complete a Dyson sphere. Then there is the time it takes to collect, refine and transport the material back to the Dyson sphere and the construction time itself. We're lucky a neighboring, more advanced civilization hasn't stripped our system of it's metals, leaving us unable to advance past a certain point. If you like this stuff, check out the "we are legion, we are Bob" audio books. It's about a startrek nerd becoming a Von Noyman probe.

Both wrong

@@andrewgardiner563 Oh shove it other Andrew. Shit stirring among the doppelgängers is not permitted, lol. And there is not enough solid matter to make a Dyson sphere in this solar system. Now if we could convert the gas giants into workable material, maybe one at the distance of Venus could be possible, but it would take converting all mass to that project still.

Yeah, absolutely

Who is “they”?

@@dforrest4503 They would be, "the powers at be." The boogeyman, MIB, your high school science teacher, spooks. If you don't know who, "they" are, its because you're trapped in the matrix.

@@dforrest4503 them.

need to have said objects tidal locked, extreme precision would be required

I suggest watching the video of this topic by Kurzgesagt

I mean if your willing to use a planet for it Mercury has been sitting there for eons lol

It is possible to achieve orbit as a sphere around a gravity source. There'd have to be some crazy and rapid axial wobble but it's (theoretically) possible. A black hole with a kinetic generator would be much easier

Would the caveman be able to question how we fly?

Greed. Envy. Hate. All of which are the catalyst of negative beginnings. We have too many negative humans holding us back.

Yeah, it's gonna be pretty hard to get past 3 in the Kardashev scale, considering we'd need things that literally do not exist, such as wormholes, white holes, alternate dimensions, and the like XD

​@@peterhiser7883right? This entire thing is absolute fiction

I'd wager government would hold us back more than corporations. Nearly every technological pioneer in recent history has been a private entity, while we, for example, continue using military technology from the 80s.

Personally, I like the great filter theory as it is a very plausible explanation to the lack of evidence of extraterrestrial life. Keep in mind also there could be multiple filters each with their own unique set of challenges to overcome. Some may be behind us, some ahead. The obvious one that would be in the future is self annihilation by technology (AI, nukes, etc.). Natural disasters and cosmic events like Gamma Ray Bursts, Supernovae, etc are always a possibility as well, but that's more of a random shot that may or may not ever effect us. Our position in the galaxy gives us an advantage, being in somewhat of the galactic "boondocks". Other civilizations may not have been so fortunate. Or maybe it is impossible for life to even exist in more chaotic regions like nearer the galactic centre.

the path is full of filters. the great filter will only be the great filter if we cant pass it. if we are past the great filter, then it wasnt really that great of a filter.

You’re not grasping this at all

Until that intelligent species turns out to be a homicidal warmongering species looking to blow us up for fun

We used to all speak the same language. And we reached amazing heights in a very short amount of time.

Amen to that. Thorium especially is powerful with minimal risk