Intel's first quad cores were two dual core chips on the same multi-chip module. AMD made the first quad core processor on a single silicon die.

I think quad core CPUs are still just fine for low end gaming pc builds and for general/casual usage. I’ve got a 4790 (non k) in an Alienware X51 to use as a Windows 7 machine to run simple and retro games.

Glad to see I'm not the only one still rocking a 4790k... haha

i3 14100f: hold my beer.

I've still got the 7700K but have been thinking of upgrading for a while now. I built a i5 13500 system for my son recently and that i5 runs rings around my old 7700K, so I'm almost tempted to go the i5 route.

Still rocking my skylake Xeon W-2102 (4 core) in 2024 as a NAS pc. It came in an HP G4 Z4 tower that I saved from being "thrown" away.

It's worth mentioning that, while faster, the Core 2 Quad chips were not true quadcores. At least in the sense of the cpus themselves. You were getting 4 cores, no doubt, but it was effectively two dual-core cpus on the same package. And unlike modern chiplet-based designs, they do not share cache. While being otherwise slower and inferior, the Phenom chips were the first true monolithic quad-core chips like future Intel quad-core parts.

Still on a heavily overclocked 4790K (all core 4.7ghz), which makes it very close to a stock 7700K. Oc'ed my 1600 ram to ~1835 (by FSB oc-ing) Overclocing does prolong your build a bit, but literally at a cost; it draws nearly 180 watts on the cpu alone. With an also OC-ed 1080ti my system draws nearly 530 watts (!!) on load, while being outperformed by a current gen i3.

I ran an i7-7700 in my HTPC until just a month ago. It did amazingly well. My old Core 2 Quad 6700 (which the i7-7700 replaced) is still in use in a friend's office PC.

My 2500K hates you so much right now, as do my Athlon3000 and my Ryzen 3 3200G. 🙂

Recently replaced the dead motherboard in a friends PC, and they are still getting good use out of my old i7 4790K. They found it far better than the i5 4440 I had given them previously (I've been handing down parts when I upgrade). Even the i7 3770S in my brother's PC has been working well enough. Faster in games than an i5 3570K while running far cooler. Wouldn't go below a 6 core these days however.

Up to 2021 July, I was on a 4590(2015) I think Quads are still relevant, even for low end gaming

4 Core* CPUs are still fine for casual gamers that doesn't need a high end PC. *With Hyperthreading. 4 Core 4 Thread CPUs however are done, unless for a cheap budget build.

i have an 1500X (4c/8t) CPU. Still doing very well. FX 8350 in 4 modules still does what Its have to do.

So I used to have an I7 7700 without a code and I rarely edit videos, mostly just for myself. I also only edit or watch videos in 1080P not in 4K and when it comes to games I only use 1080P 60 FPS log without ray tracing and whether video editing a little delay inside doesn't bother me I don't need any programs to be loaded in 1 ms if games or programs take a bit of time to load it doesn't bother me and as far as the PC in the video is concerned RGB is always off for me before each use

Awesome video, I enjoyed it a lot! Totally agree with you on the drawbacks of 4 core CPUs today, especially in CPU heavy workloads like video editing as you showed. Modern hyper-threaded quad core CPUs are surprisingly great for budget gaming systems, but if you plan on doing anything productivity related, I'd say 6 cores is an ideal minimum. I'll be excited to see what you're going to upgrade your CPU to! Hopefully it can help out with that lag you talked about in your video editor; I totally feel just how frustrating that can be. I've ran into similar lag when trying to edit my videos on my laptop, which actually has a 6 core 12 thread Ryzen 5 (4600H). It's not a bad CPU, it's just that my footage is VERY heavy, and it definitely makes editing a challenge at times. It would be great if your new CPU can solve that for you

Built an i7 3770 in 2022 and it was my first gaming pc , it was great for a starter tbh haha and i paired it with rx580 . And now im on Ryzen 5 5600 the feeling is smoother

Thats good, i have an i7-990x 6 core 12 thread so i should be good right 😅 alot of 4 cores cpu are made for budged desktop, some are still very good.

No problem. i don't have a 4 core CPU. I have a Kaby Lake Pentium 2 CORE cpu

The applications now can use these cores properly, that is why more core today even in low frequency is better than less cores. I have an i5-7300HQ mobile CPU (4c/4t), using it mainly for coding and sometimes gaming, still does the job for titles i play, but because it is getting old, i have to use lightweight software, for example i'am currently using Lubuntu OS.

I had an i3 7100 until january of 2023, it was actually surprisingly good for the most part, even for video editing and gaming.

i know quad core era ended but i am using my MSI Titan Laptop which is still working really good and beast. i overclocked it . alot. with good temps

heh i got my first quad core in 2020 on a ryzen3 laptop, because my desktop skipped quads completely going from 3 core phenom2 to a six core ryzen 5.

I used to have a Quad Core i7, it was a great machine

meanwhile me on a dual core:

Nice video. actually my old PC (which I still have it) is i7 7700k with ASUS 1060 6GB and served perfectly for 6 years untill I built a new one with Ryzen 7700 (none X) and ASUS 4070 last year.

Intel still make dual core CPUs today. Dual Core and Quad Core CPUs are fine for basic stuff. You can even game on some of them. But if you're trying to stream, video edit, music production, etc, you'll want a better CPU. Every CPU has its purpose. If you compare a quad core CPU from 7 years ago to a quad core CPU from today, that quad core (and even some dual cores) will walk all over thAt old CPU. The reason is because the lithography and architecture of the chips are smaller and more efficient. Not to mention the motherboard chipsets on top of all of that and faster ram. Even more so, the software and optimization included to make those chips even better. What I am saying is, core count is only 1 small piece of the puzzle.

you forgot bout i7 4970k devils canyon. still using it till this day ahahah im so poor

I but i7 9700k in 2020 but now the CPU cannot handle ultra setting new games ...too short time now 20 core i7

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Amen! I see lots of channels advising on cheap (used) quad core builds but no legacy quad core cuts it anymore these days. The cheapest I recommend people is Chinese lga2011 and an 8-12 core xeon; you get decent overall experience and avoid using a 10yo+ board that could give the ghost any day. Overall, let's just say that those pre-Zen times when Intel had no competition were pretty terrible; gen3 to gen 7 you get 20-25% increase in IPC, i7 3770 to 7700, 5 years later, you had no reason to upgrade.

My i7-3770 still serves me well when I need it. It does more and everything I need it to do. I also have a i7-12700k for the heavy lifting duties.

Just to the z170/z270 custom bios mod for coffee lake CPUs you can go to 8th to 9th gen cpus

I'd like to upgrade my server to a 7700k though

jajaja yo el año pasado pase de n i7 3770K a un ryzen 7 5700X... se nota el cambio

I'm still buying 4 core CPU's for the office..intel i3 12100 + 32GB Ram :) All because i want that low 54w power draw.. if i need more cores i will switch to a AMD 5700X for the 65w or 45w eco mode in bios. The end result is the most stable long lasting low heat output system you can buy.. its also more then enough CPU power for Office apps :).. For gaming at home any cpu is fine because you can upgrade anytime without issues if you want too or if it fails

I'm a huge amd fan but I have to say intels i3 from the 12100 to 14100 Is honestly a very good chip and it is a lot more than I would have ever expected from a quad core

Well the i3 12100f is 45 percent faster than your current CPU so it isn't just cores that matters it's also architecture, cache, instruction sets etc.

I got the 14900k and I feel really bad about my purchase I should have stayed with the 8700k yea it's a stronger cpu but the heat and noise from the aio is not worth it

The i7 960 Is a Workstation/HEDIT Cpu with Ak complete different socket. the Consumer Counterpart the i7 8xx Make more sens to show. The i7 970,980,990 Are 6 core cpus. Later HEDIT i7 have more Than 4 cores.

Imagine if Ryzen failed, maybe we are still in quad cores and 6-8 cores will cost a fortune.

I just got a i7 2600 😅

First off: it's crazy how the slower/weaker "E-cores" on modern Intel CPUs have similar IPC to Skylake/Kaby Lake, which would also make them similar to Coffee Lake (or even Comet Lake) as you increase their clock speed. I'm interested to see how much they'll improve as time goes on (and whether or not Intel will finally make an i3 that has some) Second: how you gonna disrespect Sandy Bridge like that lol?? The i5-2500K & i7-2600K are some of the most iconic quad-core CPUs released in the last 10-15 years (2700K is largely irrelevant due to the 2600K's virtually identical performance as they can usually both hit 5Ghz on a liquid cooler). While these days they have definitely fallen out of popularity due to the existence of so many cheaper (yet substantially more capable) options to choose from (either new or used), Sandy Bridge was relevant for as long as it was/still is to some due to it's impressive IPC and absurdly high OC headroom. The 2600K just more or less outlived the 2500K thanks to the hyper-threading, but the memory controller & support for PCIe 2.0 only has impacted it the most in the modern era where newer entry level/midrange GPUs are only x4 to x8 PCIe 4.0 lanes on a 64 or 128-bit memory bus. So I guess I can kind of understand why you started with Ivy Bridge when it comes to the first generation to kick off Intel's quad-core "Golden Age", as later revisions of the chipset it used allowed for PCIe 3.0 support and the memory controllers were also improved upon/could run kits at the upper limit of DDR3 (such as 2133Mhz) I guess I'm just a little biased as I had a 2600K up until 2020. And while it was running at 5Ghz 24/7 on a 240mm AIO for a good while, I eventually ended up lowering it to 4.5Ghz due to swapping over to an air cooler (obviously NOT the stock Intel one lol) which I only did to repurpose the AIO for a 5930K-based server I built. But even with the drop in clocks, the 2600K still handled games fairly well with the RX 580 I had at the time and I only decided to finally upgrade after the RAM died (16GB of 4 x 4GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600). So instead of going the cheaper route and just replacing it, I bought a MSI B450 Tomahawk, R5 2600, and 32GB (4 x 8GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3000) from a local seller on FB for $250 in late 2020. Kept the RX 580 and used the pair for 2 years before swapping the 2600 for the newer 5600 ($150 new, sold the 2600 for $60) and getting a Zotac 3060 Ti OC model ($300ish new/open box from another FB seller). Also sold the RAM after a friend of mine sold me a 32GB kit (16GB x 2 G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4-3200 CL14) for like $40. So with my current setup being a R5 5600 @ 4.8Ghz all-core (with a Wraith Prism RGB cooler lol), 32GB DDR4-3200 CL14, & a 3060 Ti OC (OC'ed manually thru Afterburner to 2190Mhz core / 2250Mhz memory clocks), I haven't felt the need to upgrade anything other than maybe my CPU -- which is primarily only due to it "only" having 6C/12T (funny how this video was emphasizing that 4C/8T isn't worth it anymore, yet even the next step up is slowly beginning to follow suit). It seems devs & other programmers alike are dead set on making 8C/16T the go-to "standard", seeing as how even current games that are designed for console first are optimized for a down-clocked R7 3700X. So either I just drop a 5800X3D in my existing system, get the 7900 GRE I've been eyeing, and use AM4 another 2-3 years...or swap over to a Z690/Z790 & get a 12700K or 13600K while my B450 + 5600 would go to my wife to replace her B360M-A + i7-8700 that's paired with a 6600 XT (also 32GB DDR4-3200 that's only running at 2666Mhz due to the lousy mobo limitations).

Watching this with my i5 3470 :(

Its interesting since Intel also released the N100 which not only is a 4 core cpu, but it’s only efficiency cores which has been praised as a great cheap chip for mini pcs. The Steam Deck is also a 4 core cpu and it is still winning in terms of efficiency against newer chips in the 10-15 watt power range for gaming. For your use case, there’s no argument, 4 cores is not enough and i think for many others that is the case as well. But I still think 4 cores has its place in the market and I kinda disagree with your point, it just needs to be priced right or placed in specific use cases.

thats also due to non optimized

Rocking 1050ti with R5 2400g since 2018 😂😂

Me playing with my i3-4160🙂

An i7 7700k still better for gaming than those 16/32 Xeons

More cores gives more 3D objects in games.

AMD FM2 Quad 3.9 GHz A8 6600K Tiny10 23H1 (occasional) AMD FM2 Quad 3.9 GHz A8 6600K 7 Professional (daily use) AMD FM2+ Quad 3.5 GHz Athlon X4 845 Vista Ultimate (daily use) AMD AM3 Quad 3.2 GHz Phenom II X4 840 7 Professional (occasional)

The 4/8 7700k should have been 6/12. As you state there was almost nothing there compared to the 6700k. It was the cpu that started to give AMD the momentum they so very much needed. Had Intel actually given something valuable here then Zen might never have become so dominant.

I just can afford quad core ryzen 3 3200g because I'm poor

3770k gang assemble

i3 12100f beg to differ.

human eyes can't see the difference between 4c4t and 4c8t cuz "both bad rn". No, 4c8t is much better than 4c4t in 2024

Intel released some 2 core 4 thread i7s a few years ago so why not a 4 core 8 thread i7 in 2024? They destroyed their branding and lost my respect a long time ago.

You have only talked about AMD is better at innovation. Unless Intel can really bring it after the 14th gen...they pump so much power into the CPU they don't perform or die early...like the reports of i9 13 and 14gen are getting errors playing games. I get the i5 and i7 from Intel can game very well, the X3D from AMD can better. I might only look at gaming myself, that's just me. But if you are looking for video or render work, shit you better look pro grade like Xeon or Threadripper.

Sure we're comparing 4 cores to 4 cores here. But to make your point that "4 cores are dead", you completely ignored all pro-sumer and HEDT platforms, and most importantly, you completely ignored FX, which gave 8 cores on a consumer platform. So even if we're only comparing everyday consumer platforms, AMD was the 1st to 8 cores in 2011 with the FX-8150. When Intel's most powerful chip was the i7-990x. Which was a 6c12t chip mind you. Your argument of "quad cores have been the best for a long time" falls apart even under the lightest scrutiny. I feel you've been a little misleading here.

oh really? i have a 12100f and it games great.

Sadly now we have been stuck on 6 core mainstream CPUs for 6 generations.

the fart sound effect 8:13 LOL

I see you've got ASUS prime Z270 motherboard . I'm putting together a i7-6700k system with this exact MB . I planned on installing windows 7 but I'm hearing microsoft will no longer allow activation of new win 7 installations . Since windows 11 does not support i7-6700k cpu it looks like Microsoft is literally forcing people to throw away older hardware since no avail OS will install/ activate on it .

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pretty good vid, i think it would have been worth mentioning intel HEDT market as it was good option for high end users, yes even gaming pcs. For example in haswell/broadwell days you could spend roughly ~150$ more in total on mobo + cpu and you could get 6 core 5820k which also had plenty of pcie lanes and 50% more cores and threads than 4790k. So in late 2014-2015 there were more options for higher core count cpus. Nowadays HEDT and mainstream kinda merged, so we get $700 cpus which used to be HEDT area only, but with reduced memory bandwidth (dual vs quad channel) and much fewer pcie lanes.

Great video

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I feel personally attacked, because I still have the i7700k from the thumbnail. That is still a baller CPU!

The quad core core is dead? Long live the quad core! I have a 6 core 12 thread Xeon 1650v2 in my old HPZ 620 WS that I use only for testing GPUs because it has an 800W PSU and can accommodate long length cards. That machine is a power hog. The only other multi core I have is a 6 core I5-8400. I do have a stash of 4th gen I7-4790Ks, one 4770K and two 6th gen I7-6700Ks that are awaiting new homes in planned budget builds. Great video on the history of the quad cores.

Almost 8 out of 10 people ONLY NEED 4 cores! An i3 12100f will BLOW your mind out! Amazing performance:)