that's almost abuse what he's doing. useless guy

For real. I dont pity her for her disability, I am looking at her like any normal regular person. And that's what makes me feel bad for her. the detective was in the wrong here. Must have been a rookie

Some of his brain cells have escaped through his bald spot.

@@cdion78 That's why it's hard to imagine that he's a rookie. Hehe

And her mom there was like an anti-lawyer; giving her all of the wrong advice.

Guy is a d-bag trying to be something he obviously not

💯

Seriously. Like wtf

​@@tripleheadedmonkey6613 couldn't have said it better. I'm so pissed at how he mistreated her, and how he mistreated her disability. Definitely should NEVER lead an investigation, nor especially ever train a new detective 🤬🤬🤬

It shows you clearly she’s much better at her job than the male detective. She handled her end amazingly. He was so rude to Kelsey. I am proud she stuck up for herself when she said “ I don’t like you interrupting me.” She had a hard enough time with her hearing impairment when he was hounding her while being so rude..As far as Jeffery I think he should have been committed to a psychiatric hospital style mixed with a prison type environment so he was incarcerated but where they were equipped to handle his care. He clearly has many issues that need addressed.

Not too many.

@@Tony-hn8qy even one or two is too many

I was thinking the same. I thought u had the right to withdraw consent

@@maracuyamal We saw what happened when one of the states decided to let *everyone* out because of one innocent person, it lead to an increase in crime and many of the people they let out were right back in prison, after having committed *new* crimes and thus causing harm to the public. Heck, we have a particular person that is innocent sitting in prison right now, who got shafted in trial after a Judge *refused* to let new evidence show that he was innocent, and a Jury that was stacked against him. At the end of the day, no system is perfect; but that is not a reason to let the criminals out due to one innocent person (not saying you said that, but I have seen people say precisely that)

She wasn't innocent so to speak. Had she gotten her bf mental health help rather than trying to "help him" or rather keep him with her this never would have happened. Insecure girl had a huge part in what happened imo

Dude is a scumbag

From what I understand, he no longer works as a detective for this department. Can’t say for sure if he moved to another tho. Definitely agree he SHOULD NOT be a detective or in any profession where you need even the slightest bit of empathy

Yeah true. And it's not at all frustrating or manipulative to threaten leaving the room with phantom evidence that incriminates you or a loved one. Police interrogators are just great people.

LMAOOOOOO

Right! I cannot stand to be told to calm down like that.. Now I'm just going to REALLY go TF off! 😂

@@wavyremix Glad to see comments like this after the countless blowies everyone gives to detectives in these types of videos. We need detectives of course but it doesn't mean that this type of job isnt a magnet for self aggrandizing piece of shit people who get a thrill about being the one to needle people and watch them squrim happy to be the ones to ruin peoples lives. Funny how they get so mad when suspects lie when all they do is lie. I just wish once a perp would be smartass after they tell them "we have all this evidence we know everything" and just say "well I guess you don't need me for me anything then fuckhead LAWYER"

😂

Yes.

The moment she asks to her mom "You're scared for me ?" after having been pushed to her limits by an incompetent "detective" was heartbreaking. I hope she's better now.

I AGREE 💯

It's all part of a game. He did it on purpose.

It's Roswell, GA. This is the same department that the "coin-flip" cops were fired out of. It's also the same department where a cop committed police-torture against a 13 year old suspected of driving a stolen golf cart. It's also the same department where a cop sat in his car behind local businesses and refused to respond to calls. In one case, a woman a block away was having a medical emergency, luckily a cop a couple miles away got there in time and saved her. This department is a hot mess, this video throws another log on that fire.

Definitely NEED!

Yep

well said

Correct. Everytime. No matter what.

@@mandisunshinezmost the time but thats not always true, Ive bullshitted my way out of felony charges twice, walked out of the interrogation room and slept in my own bed both times

Always

Note to self don't ever brutally shoot and kill two kids

Always. Even if you are 100% certain you are not guilty of any crime. Even if they try and trick you into talking by saying demanding an attorney first makes you appear more guilty. It doesn't. It's your right under the same laws they are trying to accuse you of breaking. Never talk until you have an attorney on your side present.

@Tech bro man i dont think you should be bragging about that dude

@Tech hiding something?

@Tech um 😬

​@Tech excuse me?!

@Tech obvious bait is obvious

WAA WAAA DETECTIVE WAS MEAN TO A WITTLE MURDERER WAA WAA (Ya’ll took the bait so hard lmfao) (Ya’ll STILL taking this bait? 😂)

@@nfaisnfgay she didn't killl anyone, wtf? did you watch the video?

@@nfaisnfgay she didn’t kill anyone but okay

I got the reference my g 😉

I think she is being deceptive, at 38.00 she says about how he held a gun at someone, but at the beginning when asked about weapons she denies he’s ever had a gun, police missed that imo!

Sorry, I think the detective is so narcissistic and such a BULLY that retraining would be a waste of time. FIRE HIM!!!

Retrained preferably as a rubber dog shit inspector in taiwan.

@@nancyadamson286 He shouldn't be fired, that's insane considering he was being mean and stupid, but he 100% needs to be sat tf down and retraiend before he's put on a case where his stupidity could actually be detrimental.

Fired

​@@DsgSleazyhe was trained before, that obviously failed. This guy does not have the brains to be a cop, as low as that bar is!

It’s a really crappy and insidious disorder. From what I understand, it is partially caused in the center of the brain that syncs up what we hear and see (we technically see before we hear things) and ties it all together in memory so we know it’s a recalled event rather than a current event. Bad a guy, a few years ahead, diagnosed. Biggest teddy bear before but some real difficulties after.

my uncle had schizophrenia and then served in the vietnam war. after that he had totally lost it and on one instance aimed a shotgun at my father. today he is not doing amazing but definitely better than he was. he cant live by himself (i believe due to other mental/physical health complications) but his 6 surviving siblings meet up with him every weekend.

This makes me happy!!!

should've fired him but I'm glad he doesn't work in that profession anymore. completely outrageous 😡

... Not soon enough ...

Most likely means he just went to a different department…people like this always just move w no repercussions

No one was wondering

I'm not deaf or even hard of hearing, but I almost always use my hands when speaking, exactly like she did. Plenty of people do. Just observe any Italian talking (stereotype, but true 😄).

You ask for an attorney before you go into questioning. Whether you’re innocent or not

​@@matthewkrislow3442I agree

Always assert your rights. An attorney can interview you and present the necessary facts tom the cops. Police are not your friend they are looking for a perp to prosecute not help the innocent.

I think you wanted to say inhumane, but is agree 100% with what you said. Someone commented that he was fired/left his job in 2022, so at least he can’t botch another interrogation again

​@@mime514I think you wanted to say yes.

@@mime514 Beyond definition: At or on the further side, further away, at a greater distance. Meaning this is nowhere near humane, reading comprehension.

@@mime514 I am very thankful he was fired or left, thank you for this info

​@@vulspixdude shut the fuck up with the pretentious ass grammar policing, humane and inhumane both work here

@@simulationkoyo Edit: I agreed at first, but after seeing more I can see what EWU was getting at. As long as mental illness never excuses a person from being placed behind bars forever for killing people, I’m good with it. I’m ok with euthanizing the mentally ill who commit murder.

One million percent spot on

​@@simulationkoyoAre you bright jn the head? Do you know what what is schizophrenia is? Cuz you did a shit job at understanding. I rather have him go to a psychward than jail no matter if he's lieing or not. He won't get out in shit. No matter if he's crazy or not. But if he's actually faking it all he won't make it in there its worse than a regular prison. And if he's crazy than he will get some help

My cousin worked the case, this kid was faking, he's no more crazy than you or I, he's just a monster

@@jordanhicks5131 except you're lying and the medical professionals disagree.

Ikr unprofessional af

He was an idiot, straight up. I don't think he even knew what he was doing or how it was perceived. He clearly wasnt picking up on anything that we could see. He says hes been doing this for years, which is just a huge facepalm. He needs to immediately be reassigned, retired, or intensely retrained.

Literally he seems like such a dick :( Poor Kelsey

Also unprofessional and bad investigating.

He was horrible 😮

Also with the whole "Don't need your hands" comment, just after she was signing how he (the Murderer) was closing up on her. Her hands pinch in the "closing' aspect. He's a freaking ass.

i am HOH and it made me furious to see that man talk to her like that and hear him say I don't need your hands acting like she's the suspect when she wasn't

Unfortunately, they don't have a class for that.

Omg I always say this and someone came for me on another video for saying this. I knew the person was clearly guilty but we have amendments for a reason. We need to exercise our rights no matter what.

It’s nobody but her fault she’s stupid🤦🏻‍♂️😂😂

Her mom was doing as much work as the investigator, she couldnt shut up

@@000claw yes poor girl her mom was an idiot telling her to give her phone up and ...

Amen to that!

Funny enough when a true psycho enters the room, they dance around in circles until all viewers wanna puke.

there was actually evidence later that she was being deceptive

@@annacarter6559 While true, he was still doing a horrible job handling her.

i also really hate that he said "i don't need your hands" when she was using her hands more to emphasize more things... she has a hearing impairment you ableist fuck. Even if shes being dishonest or shes guilty, its still horrible. He is the worst detective I have seen so far.

He needed to have his ass kicked.

Exactly, I feel terrible for this young woman. And wth don't they teach about mental illness in highschool. Young people should understand they can not help a person who is this ill. And that when people go off medications they need to notify next of kin, especially if the ill person tends toward violence.

Absolutely right! How is that bald detective a detective??? He strikes me as one of those evil detectives that try to elicit false confessions.😢

Not only do I feel bad for her but it's also horrible for the investigation. She's a young girl who isn't mature enough to just say I told you the truth and I'm done repeating myself. Not only do you not have to voluntarily answer questions but you sure as hell don't have to submit to badgering. Beyond pointlessly berating a decent young person he's also conducting a horrible interview. He got no useful information and anything she did say would be useless when a jury sees that interview. I sure as hell wouldn't find her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I'd just see a scared kid trying her best in the face of a bully. This is also how decent people grow to hate police. That poor girl will struggle to trust authorities forever. Edit: for clarity I have many cop friends I don't hate police. This kind of stuff hurts good police like the ones I know and their relationship with good citizens.

@@jeanbeans7926 Perhaps mental illness first should be addressed by the parents and not blamed on the high school.

Ya this was one of the worst detectives I've seen from watching a load of these. Honestly she needed council to stop his bs. I would have walked tf out of there if was her. But I understand she was scared shitless and had nothing to hide. I feel so bad for her. The lady detective would have been better to talk with her.

I wouldn't go so far to say he needs to be fired. He's probably a very good officer, but clearly needs some additional training on interrogating techniques and communicating with impaired people.

she barely used her hands while showing signs of lying at the very beginning of the interview. cringe “outrage” doesnt mean you know what you’re doing or morally superior

@@shaneconner5659if he behaves this way to this girl, I don’t trust how he behaves to others that he’s view as less seemly. He needs to go. Cops need to have higher bars to pass than most professions.

@@shaneconner5659in what way is he “probably good?”

​@@shaneconner5659 Nah, he's beyond *additional* training, he should be reassigned to issuing tickets for parking violations.

Exactly. It's obvious he has very little patience or understanding. He is stressed and ready to go. He has underlying issues with anger and probably cannot stand his wife.. or life, for that matter.

He should be fired.

Agreed 💯💯

I don't know why you are posting this as some sort of grand revelation. No shit everyone is guilty until proven innocent, that is quite literally how detective work, well, works.

to be fair to the interogator, kelsey WAS hiding info! she was hiding the info of him being psycho, being off meds since a few weeks and that she had to grab a knife from him because she was afraid he would harm people and stuff like that, she was actively "helping" him to get off his meds and enabling him by not interfering when he was brandishing a knife, she just took the knife and did nothing to further stop him from attemting again.. I think she got off because of a plea deal where she had to testify or something, cause to me it feels like by enabling him, she is at least partly to blame

Chillll

Same! I want to punch him in the mouth! Even if she wasn't hearing impaired, her innocence is obvious and this level of disrespect is how false confessions are forced. This type of detective makes me sick.

@@2TONKA no

@Dale Gribble She's put on an act, for her entire life, pretending to be deaf? Get a grip ableist.

Right I was like "well shit Sherlock Holmes the hands are how she communicates how dumb....

a lot of people pick on good people, it provides them with power and control. I'd hate to be his wife!

I think Kelsey heard the word "capable " that's why the thank you. That Detective was beyond horrible

Kelsey was being sarcastic when she said "Thank you".

​@@sueburgess7248 no she wasn't you could tell in her tone that she was being serious

​@@sueburgess7248 No sarcasm

The Detective was never told about her Disability at the time

I almost cried for her. That was dispicable

I hope he got reprimanded at the very least cause I agree completely out of line with her.

😢

He definitely was not the appropriate officer for the interview, hope he got fired.

​@raider7829 I did cry for her, it literally felt like I was watching someone be mentally abused. I remember so many times begging to be belived even when I did nothing wrong and my step dad not believing me. Which lead to me being a people pleaser and an overly apologetic person That poor girl deserved so much better, I hope she can sue for emotional distress / being ableist towards a psychical disability!!

He’s faking.

@@bobbyhill1013 don’t know who you’re referring to, but I’m willing to bet you’re not in any position to be making medical diagnoses.

@@jenna_jenna_jenna you’d lose money on that wager. The murderer in this video is exaggerating his condition. He is playing full blown crazy to reduce the sentence from prison to mental care. If the pretend man who told him to kill is the reason he killed. Why did he sexually assault the girl he killed? He knew he fucked up, getting caught and played his condition up as much as he could.

@@bobbyhill1013 are you a medical professional?

@@jenna_jenna_jenna Medical profession? No. I am however offering my professional psychiatric diagnosis.

It's kind of funny how the 1st thing you do is mock somebody's appearance because you don't like them. Isnt that hilarious? You are what you pretend to hate. Lol.

@@CNNBlackmailSupport I didn't criticize him for making fun of Kelsey's appearance so I'm not sure why you think I'm being hypocritical

IM DYING DETECTIVE BALD SPOT BROOOOO

@@Hapnote You thought it would be fine to make fun of her looks? Weird flex.

​@@CNNBlackmailSupport Do you have a bald spot?

Exactly. Otherwise what's the point of having lawyers and then having to pay to do university degrees if understanding the law and rights was so simple? Make use of the resources you have a right to, the interrogators wouldn't have spoken to Kelsey like that if a lawyer was present

Kelsey's mom is proof that single women don't always make good choices. Especially, choices regarding children.

Yes, they help you and they help themselves too. Have you checked the average hourly rate they charge a client?

@@littleredrose6254 No average man or even police officer type income can afford a criminal defense lawyer. The only option is the free public defense lawyer with a hundred to many clients at any given moment leaving their client advised to take a plea deal else just sitting there while the judge sentences the accused.

@@littleredrose6254 there's legal aid to help pay and it exists because everyone has the right to have a lawyer. It's essentially a case of lawyers fighting lawyers/police rather than justice and truth

This is also seen as an entreaty to understanding, not uncertainty. Palms up and gesturing out is like I’m showing you my cards. And her looking at him to see if he believes her later is because he has said he didn’t believe her.

Spot on.....i'm deaf in my left ear. It's never taken seriously....

What I find infuriating is that some people treat a hearing impaired person as being dumb as well..What ignorance!

Yeah, my mom is hard of hearing and that type of treatment from people makes my blood boil. Those that don't have someone in their life who struggles with hearing my be shocked to know how weirdly nasty people can be about it, often treating them like their stupid just for struggling to hear.

I have hearing problems and seeing that detective being so rude and talking down to her upset me very much, as well! It’s very difficult for me to understand what people are saying to me, and having someone talk at me that way would confuse and upset me so much I wouldn’t be able to continue speaking with them!

Same hear.its a daily struggle and watching it makes me sad and frustrated for all who suffer from hearing problems.

Deduce*

@@Sinsteel thank you for your service

But not so good at seeing the bad side of her husband and "can help him".. Nope. You can't. Leave it to professionals..

I about laughed out loud when the idiot detective tried to flip that deduction on her. "How did you know it's about those killings? AHA! He DID tell you!"

@@chemicalfrankie1030 lmao amen!! Praying for her. She tried so hard in all of this.

Paralegal here! I’ve read several cases and it just seems it’s such a weird grey area of this and state dependant. Regardless under an umbrella of a statue, even if the defendant is in poor mental or physical health or even intoxicated, a court won’t find any confession involuntary unless there is some evidence (does not mean there won’t be ppl to try to gather any sort of evidence to prove) that the suspect’s thinking is impaired. Merely being on drugs or suffering from physical or mental problems isn’t enough.. the condition must affect the defendant’s ability to think clearly. However, the court will consider the defendant’s physical and mental state and any use of intoxicating substances in deciding whether the defendant exercised free will in confessing. Legally, the accused cannot be interrogated/interviewed until they’re fully coherent. That’s the proper way. But there has been a lot of cases of forced and involuntary confessions to whatever they’re being accused of. But that is opening Pandora’s box and changing topics entirely.

@ladyoftudor6812 thank you!

​@@ladyoftudor6812I Guess things have changed over the years. I'm 63 and I know that it was illegal to interrogate anyone who seemed as if they had a mental problem. This guy clearly has a severe mental problem. The officers would bring in a psychologist to test the affected person which would indicate weather to go forward with the interrogation WITH FAMILY AND LAWYER PRESENT or halt the meeting until further mental testing.

@@1GINAMARIE and they just put him for life in prison wothout parole. Ridiculous. I really feel sorry for the dude. Should spend time in a mental hospital where he is being cared for in a humane way.

As a Psych nurse, I can tell you this man was NOT in a state of psychosis. Nothing about his presentation points to psychosis, which is maddening cuz the investigators fell for it. He definitely presents more as a raging personality disorder - which would be in line with his traumatic childhood. The "shakes" the "confusion," the over exaggerated displays of anxiety are all done in an attempt to deceive - only thing that he was anxious about in that interrogation was being caught.

Better yet know your natural rights.

​@@sapshootervtPRAY you get &/0r have a good Lawyer or your screwed & NOT in a way you'll enjoy!!

Exactly , it was so very very sad and I felt terrible for her but Jeffrey , a monster and not suffering a psychotic break but a big fake .

Well, to be fair, she was lying about him having displayed any behaviors that shocked her. As terrible as his approach was, he wasn't too off when reading her.

The detective that interviewed Kelsey should have been taken off that case, and the lady that interviewed her husband should have been there instead. If the male detective was so schooled in doing interviews, why was he so horrible at it? 🤨🤔🙄

I also am hearing impaired. It is very difficult to communicate when you can’t hear what is being said. Very, very stressful. I really felt bad for her.

I hope that detective didn't spend much on all those fancy schools.

Exactly

he needs to be retrained at LEAST. it’s embarrassing to the profession.

I've seen worse! Don't talk without a lawyer, period. It's the first line of the Miranda rights, for heaven's sake!

A$$hQles only complain about cops being hostile when the criminal is White. These dudes could shoot a Black suspect and clowns like you would be looking for ways to justify it.

Welcome to Ga. It's worse in NC. This so called detective/interrogator is appauling. what was worse, was we all know higher ranking officials and/or co workers were watching this go on and on, and no one intervened, why is that?

when he said "I don't need your hands" or whatever he said, it truly pissed me off. He has no clue how to interact with someone who is hard of hearing.

I bet his wife feels like he doesn’t listen 😂

I’m glad EWU points out how he harms his own interrogation with his attitude and behavior

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I can’t stand him. When he pulled that ‘I can tell you’re lying because you looked away’ crap, I lost all respect for him. Like, if I had done nothing wrong and they needed my help, I would absolutely need to talk to someone else because this dummy keeps doubling down on his lies 😂

@@hi-dl4kw Hey Bud! The action and reaction is still the same whether she was hard of hearing or deaf. You should know that already!! My uncle was the chairman of the deaf society in our town. I know the difference.

@hi🙂 ‘Hard of hearing’ is a term that a lot of people use that have hearing impairments, no matter what degree it is. Some people that say they are hard of hearing still use sign or lip reading…whether they hear auditorial tones or not. Hard of hearing doesn’t just mean ‘I have a bit of trouble, speak up please’. The way you interact on the internet would be more tolerable if you knew what you were talking about.

@@hi-dl4kw how do you know? did you conduct her audiology tests? have you seen her results? have you attempted to have a conversation with her face to face? no one ever knows the severity of hearing loss.

@@Miksmissus I say I'm "deaf/hard of hearing" as I'm deaf in 1 ear and hard of hearing in the other, when I used to say I'm "hard of hearing", people wouldn't always appreciate quite how badly deaf I was until they realised just raising their voices slightly left me looking like a dork staring at them in panic lmao. But 100% rely on lip reading and side rant on lip reading: if you verbally mumble, your lips mumble as well. Cannot understand a word anyone says when they're just mumbling and it is just so infuriating.

@@hi-dl4kw Stop instigating! That matter is over with.

Yeah, my guess is that they didn't actually have a photo and mistakenly left a placeholder in from before they found out. That, or they just lied about having the photo period and didn't realize the brands would be that different, which, for people who often treat cops like batmen, is real weird, given Glocks are super popular cop guns.

It’s “stock” image dude. You are putting way too much thought into what was a split second editing decision… But congratulations! You, just like anyone else that shoots, can tell the difference between a Glock and literally any other polymer pistol ever lol

​@ChuckThree An editing decision to label a stock photo as an actual case photo is not a split second thing. Source: I used to make and edit videos as part of my job. The fact that a given person can tell one gun brand from another is neither here nor there.

He needs to go *back* to those "fancy" schools.

Yea that detective is a complete clown. What a douche. Hopefully the department saw this and removed him from interrogating people, because if he’s been doing this for years I’m sure he’s botched investigations by talking to people like this.

Lmao

I feel so bad for Kelsey, her life was falling apart and she didn't even know it yet, then this dumbass detective treats her horribly. And her being Deaf definitely played a part in how she was treated, infuriating.

funny thing ive noticed a lot of dogshit interrogators say the same thing

In his defense, Roswell had not had any reported violent crimes or murders since at least the year 2000. I’m not surprised the RPD wasn’t used to dealing with violent crimes. It was known as a very safe and wealthy area.

Not sure about this particular jurisdiction, but I’ve studied evidence law and this detective is making it really hard for the prosecution to use anything in this interview. A competent defence team could easily get this thrown out of evidence (especially when he tells her to act a certain way, or implying that she won’t get out of the situation unless she confesses). The legal test is generally: if the police obtain a confession that would not have been obtained without the threat or implied threat, then it is void in evidence. Even if she confessed right then and there, it couldn’t be used as evidence in court. *Not legal advice*, just my opinion.

​@@JackieOwl94 Either way, it's his literal job to do better. Murders or not.

​@@JackieOwl94 That being said, the female detective in this case seemed to have figured out what the conduct should be. My money's on male detective is an incompetent asshole!

He didn't think she was less than him- he knew she was lying to protect a murderer. His job is to get the truth. The woman was lying. It was obvious she knew Jeffrey was crazy and dangerous. The detective is exactly what is RIGHT with our system. He is a man doing his job- making liars and criminals fess up. She knew everything but thinks she and Jeffrey are more important than everyone else. She knew what the detective was asking- she just doesn't want to admit her role in it and her foreknowledge.

damn that must have been traumatic.. your right. they want the easy answer and the bad ones will settle for getting it wrong and possibly ruining an innocent person's life & reputation as they tell themselves they are always right .. I have literally seen cases where DNA exonerates murderers/rapists and the cops still insist they got the right guy.. unfortunately the profession tends to attract some real egomaniacs.. Fortunately, it also attracts some amazing people who save lives every day.. the problem is the whole "blue line" nonsense.. even the best "Good Cops" defend "Bad Cops" most of the time.. It they stopped blindly defending eachother they'd start earning back public support but i don't see that happening anytime.. Many of the fanatical "blue line" departments put the blue line on their cars..the cops tattoo it on themselves and without fail you'll find every cop in those precincts has an "US vs THEM" mindset with the general public.. Not just criminals.. the entire public..

They didnt know she wasn’t involved and she was clearly hiding something

You mean being a typical cop. that's what you are describing. the dumbest guy you went to high school with became a cop

​@@thesportsguy126That's not a good excuse. Oh sorry parents of the victim we didn't know anything so we ignored every procedure and made the suspect shut down. Your kids won't get justice but it's OK because we knew she was lying and we had fun yelling at a suspect. Do the job properly because it's about getting justice not being a bad ass.

@@leihamada4672EXACTLY! Too many detectives putting their ego and control issues before the investigation. It’s pathetic, sloppy work.

The detective who was with Kelsey should be fired!!!

Yeah same here I just felt so bad for her she was just a kid I don't know why they thought she had anything to do with it when she was obviously innocent and Jeffrey was the murderer she had nothing to do with it Some detective he was

BS - questioning him in that state is absurd. He should have been provided a counsellor and a lawyer whether he asked for it or not. He’s clearly not in his right mind.

@@KatoKrazy well I guess they're both bad at their jobs

He was doing his job and he did it right

@@_SUPERN0VA_ No he was not, even if she was guilty his approach was wrong

communication is 90% body movement; the cops an idiot

However, even more so if we communicate when hard of hearing or deaf.

lt was hard 2see the detective's lack of understanding?!!She was prob telling the truth but 2him,he seems 2ignore this deafening cry for help*!!!

​@@chrislim7615 learn to write. It makes communication easier.

wait till he meets an Italian (an actual one, not the Americans that claim they are) , they will give him an aneurism

So glad but how did you get that info

Good to hear that.

@@Dh-rp7gg He made it up to get likes

​@@Dh-rp7gg google?

Hey Ryan. Neat to see you around here also.

They should've brought people more able to handle both of them. They were both handled so poorly. She was treated so badly, like he was so rude to her for no reason. I know his job is to be a detective, but it's not to be an absolute a-hole to someone who may or may not have known about their significant others crime. And he has no idea how to interact with someone who's hard of hearing. And I know he killed two people, but for some reason seeing that female detective treat him that way made me feel sorry for him. Putting him in distress like that is only going to mess his head up even more.

They're trying to solve a murder. Who gives a damn about her feelings.

@@DrJ-hx7wv the people trying to solve the fucking murder. how the hell are you supposed to get a confession out of someone who doesnt want to talk to you? use common sense.

Thank you for sharing this. My heart absolutely broke for Kelsey. The detective was horrible to her and clearly has to business interviewing anymore.

@@DrJ-hx7wv Yeah, that is foolish. These detectives were dealing with two whiny, crybaby adults. There were two CHILDREN murdered. Who cares about these idiots feelings?

stfu she supported a killer and hiding the information

“Traumatized” by an uncomfortable conversation. Exactly what’s wrong with this world. How about the families of the murdered teens?

@@03Grunt-arrino here comes a reductionist. She’s not just suspected and therefore proportionately investigated no! She’s straight up being accused of murder and lying about the murder and being threatened with consequences for lying about the murder. That is coercion by way of intimidation. That is deeply distressing and traumatizing for most people hence why some folks breakdown and sign a confession when they are in fact innocent!. So spare me your “uncomfortable conversation” and get real. He was wildly unprofessional and didn’t not conduct a fair interrogation. He treated her like a convicted criminal when she’s just a suspect.

@@03Grunt-arrinothey can sue who they feel they need to otherwise shut the FUCK UP. Goddamn. It’s not a competition, more than ONE person can be traumatized at the same time for different reasons.

Sue them for making her cry? Lol come on man

WHAT!?

@@LifeSizeNomi It's a famous case...Her name is Ryan Waller. Explore with us have the interview. In short, Waller and his girlfriend were at home, watching and-or sleeping on the couch. And they've been victim of a break-in. Both had been shoot. Her girlfriend died, and he was arrested as a suspect. They interview him for hours, while he was clearly confuse etc... And in pain... In fact, he was a victim and had 2 bullets in his head! ( Sorry for my engrish, i'm a french speaker)

Yes I remember that one.

@@Minoujill24*His not her.

@theBOG3, *****so you missed the bit where they said that English is not their first language? How many languages do you speak? How many languages are you able to write in fluently??? How well do you write in french? Wtf mr/mrs/ms Judgy Judgerton...

This is what happens when people cannot get the help they truly need. Not that every schizophrenic is a murder or even violent, but the mind can get super messed up with a disorder like that, especially if they are exposed to such violence. It's absolutely heart shattering and I'm only 10 mins in :(

@@kennyevans6197 🙄

@Kenny Evans You are giving everyone a headache man

@@kennyevans6197 shut up.

​@Kenny Evans You do have a point, but it doesn't detract from being regarded as tragic. How about "demonic", if witness to the incident, "tragic", in hindsight..?

This is just one of many examples of why you should never talk to cops/investigators. Always ask for a lawyer.

​@@bluesmusicandwhatnot2845 100% accurate, (in such circumstances).

He’s doing his job. It’s harder doing it than watching a video from your phone when it’s all done with. Unless you’re the guy that trained the detective..

@@rickyt5179 he was doing his job poorly

@@Maj_hul true, because she did end up confessing to her mother, that’s why I said what I said, but yeah he seemed to be very pushy, like he was rushing to get the info out of her instead of taking his time.

We don't nearly see enough bad interrogations on UKposts. It's pretty easy to watch a clean, hindsight play-by-play, but it's not the norm in this profession. Usually it's very complicated with numerous suspects, and they bulldoze their way over multiple peoples' rights without impunity on their way to the final suspect. Once they like you for something, they will use every dirty trick in the book, often getting access to and abusing the private materials of well-meaning people. It's honestly a disgusting profession.

@@wavyremix I wonder what we'd learn from dissecting the confessions of people who were later proven innocent.

Always treat everyone with some kind of love and respect, if you expect cooperation.

We are having empathy with her because we know she is innocent - He didn't know that. From his perspective she was a potential accomplice to a murder.

They do this to children. They can do it as young as 10 in Idaho. It's up to the 10 year old to ask for a parent,Guardian or lawyer. They just don't fucking care.

@@nopassionfruit Yes the interrogator didn't know for sure she was telling the truth. But if he had ANY instincts at all, he would be able to tell she was being honest. He's supposed to be so great at telling when someone is lying - EVIDENTLY NOT! An experienced interrogator would do a much better job handling her. He should be trying to find out the true story, not make up his mind ahead of time. HORRIBLE JOB!!

@@SportsBoss999 That's not how police works lmfao. They don't acquit someone of murder because of a gut feeling.

@nopassionfruit even if he didnt know she wasnt the killer or responsible at all to the case, forcing the person youre interrogating can lead to devastating results like the person shutting down and refusing to cooperate or even get false informations, the same way how an innocent person can admit on being guilty if tortured or intimidated/forced to confess. Her high level of distress could have made her say things that are false just to lessen the torturous questioning. Not only was the detective immoral but his methods were highly inneficient

Yeah, that part was great! 😂😂😂

Then proceeded to treat her like shit. Typical cop behavior. Every one is criminal.

​@@nathanaeldavid6238That's not they typical officer behavior. Just stop with that nonsense.

@@SouthernCloverit is tho

@@nicksmith4884 It isn't. There are two officers in this video. You obsess over one and willfully ignore the other based on your perceived bias. As the daughter of a police officer, I can tell you that your views on police officers being mostly bad are complete bs.

most cops arent good people

The interrogator who questions Kelsey is a complete psychopath!!! 😳 I mean WTF. She is not the one who killed those innocent people and clearly was not aware of the fact that her husband killed them, until that psychopath interrogated her and forced her to confess something which is not the TRUTH!! It reminds me of the witch trials in the Middle Ages. He should be held responsible for devastating a young woman's psychology. 😡

Complete asshole. I mean unreal.

He behaved like an idiot!

They always do this. You're noticing more because she's likely innocent, but they always accuse people, especially when they don't have anything against the person they ask questions to. I've seen many of these videos and I often ask myself how many people did nothing wrong but have been convicted because they were tired, nervous, and just mispoke. No wonder there's so many justice miscarriage in the US.

Technically she was just being interviewed, which makes his actions even more infuriating.

​@Monkey_11 Seriously, what an ass. I hope she's doing well, despite all this trauma.

That 'stop with the hands' literally made me gasp! He's oblivious to how detrimental his tactic is because he seems to believe he's really clever.

@@user-ns3sx2ee9g people with enough compassion

I agree, my son was born partially deaf in both ears. He still struggles to hear even with his hearing aids. This is extremely upsetting to watch!

It's hard to know. Most people have never seen a truly crazy person just people "acting crazy"

Observe his mannerisms in the cctv footage and the way he stops and starts these apparently involuntary movements he’s lying can’t say that 100% but I’m pretty sure he’s faking it to avoid the consequences. I don’t think Kelsey was lying when she told the detective he’s not an anxious person.

@@samanthaquinlan4126if you change the context, it changes the body movements. People use the movies as their basis for a what a “break” looks like but often it is similar to this, weird speech patterns/accents, odd movements, and more. Don’t forget this has been screened by people with mental health specialties

Could it be possible that you are exaggerating in your “episodes”

Yes, and her own mother allowed it and encouraged it.

I know the feeling

Yeah I think she was confused about what was even going on. Most people have no idea how the system works, throw being deaf on top of it and the fact that detective doesn't seem to know how do anything besides say, "I know you know now tell me what I know you know.", and so like she clearly thought she was going to be arrested or something with how he was talking. That's why she kept saying, "No!" when he went to leave the room because she assumed that meant she'd be taken to jail. Then when her mom was like, "I'm scared." she went, "Scared for me?!" and freaked out,a nd her moms like, "Wut.... -_____- no, you're fine." then she was like a lot more calm after that. Detective was friggin ass at his job. Was probably hammered and wanted to score another 8-ball and was getting frustrated this wasn't a slam dunk bulldozing over a deaf girl.

How she lied and told her Mother what happened she was a lier

She was being deceptive, she lied multiple times.

@@Space_Ghost_Hunter it’s so awful & so sad. Meanwhile we’ve got a generation of children growing up watching half of their “tick-tock” friends pretend to have DID online. to the 15yos in the room… this is what it actually looks like. If you have alters I can guarantee that most of them have no fucking clue, and depending on how many you’ve got, the more you have the less of a chance there is that you are one of the ones who *do* know. There is statistically far *more* of a chance that you could have DID & be entirely unaware of it, than you having DID & be completely lucid about that fact.

Don’t know what you guys were watching she didn’t lie. She clearly didn’t want to reveal her husband had mental health issues . She felt like it was private and perhaps she had some shame surrounding it also. Consider she’s also his carer she most likely felt she had to protect him as he was vulnerable . I don’t think she knew he had committed any murders . That’s not a crime

Exactly!!!

But make sure you read the half second disclaimer

This!

What did he do so wrong? It's just one youtubers opinion of how he thinks a suspect should be interrogated. I think the interrogators did a perfectly fine job and got good results.

@@b0rd3n pressing that pause button must be hard, huh?

Cop: "you'll be found culpable and accountable". Kelsey: "Why, thank you! Glad someone finally noticed *blushes*"

If you're innocent what would you have to lose by handing over anything requested? Besides the fact you get to pretend you're smart somehow by being difficult. You could be seriously hindering law enforcement efforts to catch actual criminals while they are messing around with warrants for your stupid ass

You’re not your

I don't understand how and why people talk to the police without an attorney.

indeed if they see you sneeze don't even so much as admit it...CALL your LAWYER...cops aren't there to help you they are there to get an arrest...

He would have been fine if he took his medication. I have no idea why he stopped, but he possibly couldn't afford it when his grandparents kicked him out?

modern culture says we should emulate him

@@SteveB-nx2uo I haven't heard anything like that from modern culture.

@@Soulsphere001 then you dont watch any media, entertainment, news, or talk to anyone read anything

@@SteveB-nx2uo Well, give me an example of where you've seen modern culture being okay with allowing people to go through schizophrenia without medication, but don't provide URLs as UKposts will delete comments with links, and I'll look it up.

I see this too… and in situations like this apparently it’s not right to an average person to help someone like him. When really he needed her in his life but unfortunately his mental condition got the best of him. She had a great heart to care for him.

I pray to my GODS that their spirits go to Heaven!! Hell seems to have frozen over this Spring!! I love & miss my family SO much & have for too long!!

@@kellycampbell6962 People don't help because people like this can be INSANELY dangerous, as you can see.

@@user-om2xv4lq3smultiple gods and heaven? We just making stuff up now? Old lies not good enough? What?

@@kellycampbell6962there married tf?? Js bc hes mental disabled doesnt mean he cant be loved personally hypocrit

I’m sick of the Torture this young lady is going through she was not at the crime scene. Why is she even being question?

@@spinrash6000 because cops always question friends and relatives!

Guess the truth is unacceptable. He wasn’t gonna be satisfied unless she made up a story. What happened to innocent until proven guilty?!

support police reform... I do.

@@jackreese9194 hi! welcome to america! I see you are new here! we have 'for profit' hospitals and prison systems! So we let the poor die, and we love corrupt cops cuz they make us money! - the american government