Will Thin Motor Oil Cause Engine Damage? Let's Settle This!

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Project Farm

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8 місяців тому

Many modern cars require very thin (low viscosity) motor oil to operate more efficiently. Newer engines typically have tighter tolerances between engine parts. Let’s see if lower viscosity motor oil offers the same level of protection against engine wear. We’ll also see of the thinner oil experiences greater thermal breakdown and evaporation.
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@animejanai4657
@animejanai4657 6 місяців тому
@@ProjectFarm If you do another motor oil viscosity vs wear comparison, please consider making an equal parts mixture of 5W-20 synthetic and 5W-30 synthetic oils. If the wear scar decreases from that of the 5W-20 oil, but is also greater than the wear scar of the 5W-30 oil, then this empirically verifies that the wear rate of 5W-30 is not a fluke and that the wear rate is definitely better. Thank you.
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@theamerican7080
@theamerican7080 8 місяців тому
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@jimmio3727
@jimmio3727 8 місяців тому
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@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
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@comentariopolitico1014
@comentariopolitico1014 6 місяців тому
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@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
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@AlaskanFalcon
@AlaskanFalcon 8 місяців тому
As an Alaskan, I'd love to see the -40 oil put into the wear tester to see how they perform when put to work in extreme cold. If nothing else it'd be a great video to show the importance of winterizing your vehicle (Transmission heat pad, Oil pan heat pad, Block heat plug to heat coolant, Trickle charger/battery blanket). We tend to run thin oils here cause the winters are so cold. Fairbanks Area.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thank you for the video idea!
@David-jt9nt
@David-jt9nt 8 місяців тому
im still waiting to see the power steering video. I live in the Montana mountains, and -30 isn't uncommon; then add on I have a leak, and I want to see how different power steering fluids handle sadly I don't have the money or power outlets so I can winterize my truck in any helpful way bc I cant go out and start it up every day due to gas prices
@crandonborth
@crandonborth 8 місяців тому
Yikes I can imagine how cold it gets up In Alaska… I’m from the upper Midwest and luckily it still 95° here. 😅
@Nevir202
@Nevir202 8 місяців тому
An interesting thought, but I think it would make essentially no difference. Ya it'll start out at -40, but the friction will heat it up FAST. It's not like you wreck your engine with a cold/dry start one time, it's doing it hundreds, or thousands of times that gives you issues. I guess you could swap the wear part to a softer metal and perform a shorter test, to try and compensate?
@redsquarejay
@redsquarejay 8 місяців тому
How do you survive up there? As a Canadian, I can get used to -30⁰C
@PJ16pt
@PJ16pt 8 місяців тому
Sure seems like the oil manufacturer added more additives to the 0w-16 to try and offset the increased wear of such a thin oil. Thank you for another informative test.
@PetrolHeadBrasil
@PetrolHeadBrasil 8 місяців тому
Exactly!
@michaelbassett5105
@michaelbassett5105 8 місяців тому
That’s what Toyota uses and they are known for reliability and longevity
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 8 місяців тому
Unless the heavier rated oils stick to metal surfaces the heavier oil has a disadvantage when cold. With most wear taking place upon start-up the 0-16 has an advantage in this respect.
@oneninerniner3427
@oneninerniner3427 8 місяців тому
​@@michaelbassett5105 Honda uses 0W16 on some models I think I heard as well.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 8 місяців тому
Efficiency is good when you own it, longevity is better for the next owner
@dodgecummins6181
@dodgecummins6181 3 місяці тому
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@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 місяці тому
Thanks!
@zenriderx
@zenriderx Місяць тому
6:25 yes! Thanks for letting people know this. Also the "S" that they have dropped off the end (10w30s) stood for Summer. Before multi viscosity oils folks would change viscosities for hot and cold seasons.
@grizz1108
@grizz1108 8 місяців тому
This fella puts a ton of time and effort into each of his videos. Very impressive. Possibly the best test shop in the world.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@R5555.
@R5555. 8 місяців тому
@@ProjectFarm hey can you test the best product for stopping rust on the cars underside? Love your videos!!
@richardmann3396
@richardmann3396 8 місяців тому
And he doesn't even use a stunt double.
@richardgordon245
@richardgordon245 8 місяців тому
And his pouring is top notch .
@1999Dorito
@1999Dorito 8 місяців тому
@@R5555.would be a good video but it would need to be long term at least a year to re evaluate
@craigclu
@craigclu 8 місяців тому
I'm retired but worked for a company that developed the micro-finishing film that most engine manufacturers adapted. There was extreme focus on the micro-scratch surface left by the finishing materials and very distinct to the design of a particular engine. There was much more engineering and research on this aspect than one might assume. When the manufacturer recommends a specific oil type and viscosity range, they have some well researched reasons for their recommendations. Modern, low-friction piston ring design also factors into what the manufacturer tells us we should be using.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the feedback.
@masynvalentine29
@masynvalentine29 8 місяців тому
You said what I came to say.
@DISOPtv
@DISOPtv 8 місяців тому
EPA probably is the most reason for the low vis oil and high mile oil change intervals.
@57rumors
@57rumors 8 місяців тому
@@DISOPtvexactly. Thinner oil gives better gas mileage. You’re trading off longevity for efficiency. The engineers only job is to build an engine that is more efficient than previous generations. That’s all they care about. They only need it to outlast the warranty.
@802Garage
@802Garage 8 місяців тому
@@screaminlead I was just going to recommend the Total Seal videos on engine surface finishes as well.
@johnosczakiewicz9740
@johnosczakiewicz9740 6 місяців тому
Im looking at P.F. video's , on a Sunday morning !! Love the Oil-impics
@waterboxer87
@waterboxer87 4 місяці тому
We get the Reader's Digest version--informative, to the point, important facts, and a clear presentation. Well done. Three million subscribers and continuing to climb.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 місяці тому
Thanks!
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 8 місяців тому
Friction reduction has seemingly lost to fuel efficiency when it comes to the purpose of oils. I still run "thick" oil in the summer and lighter oil in the winter, glad to know that lessons from Papa still hold up🤙
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing.
@shootermcgavin2819
@shootermcgavin2819 8 місяців тому
I lived in Ohio. I had an 85 Ford F250 with the 6.9 IDI diesel engine. Ran 20w50 in the summer and 10w40 in the winter. No blow by 👌🏻
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 8 місяців тому
That logic checks out, I would be concerned about sludge buildup if you aren't really getting the engine up to operating temp for a sustained period of time. All oils do it, synthetic or conventional but synthetic seems to degrade worse in subpar conditions from what I've seen. Be well and make sure to keep your oil changes often and frequent...oil is cheap-ish while engines and repair bills are anything but🤙
@keithwiebe1787
@keithwiebe1787 8 місяців тому
I don't think "friction" as he tests it here really is how the engine sees friction. One thing he hasn't tested is "pumpability" when cold or hot. Probably way exceeds his method of testing for friction.
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 8 місяців тому
I could be wrong but I believe he has created a "backyard" version of the actual tests conducted industry wide🤷 With that said, the ability to pump the goo around at various viscosity levels is planned out heavily by manufacturers...unless you have minus 50°c for a month and freeze your coolant all should be fine under your hood👍
@silvenshadow
@silvenshadow 8 місяців тому
I'd love to see a video about the advantages and disadvantages of running very thick oils like 15w50 for extreme duty
@willtoulan
@willtoulan 8 місяців тому
Disadvantages would be fuel economy and flow issues in colder weather
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@ChrisPBacon-ok7ir
@ChrisPBacon-ok7ir 8 місяців тому
I run 20w 50 in my hotrod and in the high performance engine in my boat. Both are only used in summer months. I use 10w 30 in my other two Mustangs.
@gadgethunter5732
@gadgethunter5732 8 місяців тому
I tried 20W50 in an old '79 Plymouth Horizon I had. The engine needed a valve job and was burning oil. One day the temp dropped and the starter could barely turn the engine over.
@andrewgarcia3136
@andrewgarcia3136 8 місяців тому
​@@gadgethunter5732 thats what happened when I had it in my old BMW during the winter
@justinsevier5558
@justinsevier5558 7 місяців тому
You're favorite and most trusted reviewer on youtube. I always start my shopping by seeing if it's something you've compared. How about doing TPMS sensors? How do aftermarket compare to OEM? Battery life? Accuracy? etc. Thanks for all that you do!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 місяців тому
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@alexcarbone1222
@alexcarbone1222 7 місяців тому
I never heard of 0W-16 oil before this video. But these tests and this whole channel are amazing.
@tahsin28
@tahsin28 7 місяців тому
Well new yaris used 0w-8, you are just behind the times a bit.
@brianhua8226
@brianhua8226 8 місяців тому
I’d love to see another motor oil showdown!
@volvo09
@volvo09 8 місяців тому
I love the oil tests
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@giggiddy
@giggiddy 8 місяців тому
Love the channel but the oil stuff is pretty much beaten down. Hes probably done a dozen over the years and you can only test so much additives and hot/cold viscosity.
@perniciouspete4986
@perniciouspete4986 8 місяців тому
​@@giggiddyDo maple syrup, then.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 8 місяців тому
10w40 versus 20w50
@darylsmioth1904
@darylsmioth1904 8 місяців тому
A two stroke oil shoot-out like synthetic vs conventional vs caster bean oil would be awesome to see!
@billmalec
@billmalec 8 місяців тому
Make sure the 'gum up' factor is included. Castor oils gum up power valves badly.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@joewalla8438
@joewalla8438 8 місяців тому
It may start on fire. Somebody on UKposts tried olive oil and that happened.🔥
@billmalec
@billmalec 8 місяців тому
@@joewalla8438 all of those are in use now and have been for a long time.
@johngalt97
@johngalt97 8 місяців тому
The smoke factor should be measured in more than one way. Two smoke FTW!
@todddubler2091
@todddubler2091 7 місяців тому
My last oil change on my 2016 Silverado, I mixed 0w-20 and 5w-30. The truck runs noticeable smoother. Next time it will be all 5w-30. Cold flow isn't a consideration as I live in the desert of Arizona.
@danionescu988
@danionescu988 2 місяці тому
If the car is older, you can use 10W40 in hot climate
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 2 місяці тому
I thought about doing the same on my JL wrangler... just to be safe.... After watching this video and forums.... My first oil change is coming up at 1500 and want to give it a head start on engine life by doing an early first change. And I live in Florida so it's rarely frigid here maybe a couple months of below 45* nights
@mm-jx7gf
@mm-jx7gf 2 місяці тому
@@wailingalenPersonally, my opinion on a new vehicle is to stay with the oil viscosity recommended by the manufacturer and what is says in the owner manual. Sometimes manufacturers will list more than 1 viscosity based on temps and usage, but usually it is just 1. If you use an oil that is not recommended and you end up with an engine problem under warranty, the dealer will void the warranty. And unfortunately today, manufacturers have more problems with new engines than you would think. Maybe you don't want to wait until the warranty is over, but it may be good to wait for a year or 2 and/or 15,000 miles or so... just to make sure. Also, if you can I would stay with the winter grade and only increase the grade for the hot weather viscosity. In other words, if it says 0W-20, think about 0W-30, or instead of 5W-20, go with 5W-30. You just don't want a high viscosity when you first start the car and before it is warmed up... I'm glad you are changing the oil at 1500 miles. Manufacturers say it is not necessary any longer, but I do that as well... Change the oil often and use a good filter; change fluids every 3 - 5 years or so; keep the air filter fresh; use fuel system cleaner (i like Chevron Techron); and drive it right... and it will last a very long time. I still drive a 22 year old Acura that runs like new with 238k miles on it..
@haydengalloway5177
@haydengalloway5177 2 місяці тому
Its important to remember that some newer cars have very thin oil galleries. Its not just about wear its about getting the oil through the galleries. If your oil is too thick and can't get through the galleries properly it doesn't matter how much wear protection it has cause your car will be getting very little oil on key components. .
@antpart7998
@antpart7998 Місяць тому
@@mm-jx7gf you might want to be prudent with the fuel system cleaner, it's been shown to drop lubricity in your engine oil whilst it's in the system.
@ZoxtorPK
@ZoxtorPK 5 місяців тому
I always want to see such test results, thanks man!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@bgood213
@bgood213 27 днів тому
Slow your voice down 🙏 please
@ABoojumSnark
@ABoojumSnark 8 місяців тому
When you do oil tests it might be interesting to include the all-time best and worst performers on the charts at the end of each test (maybe give them a faded out color to set them apart). This would give some overall context to the small selection being tested.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@minotaurbison
@minotaurbison 8 місяців тому
@@ProjectFarm I'll +1 this one, sometimes I would love to know what the all time best in category is so I can go buy the best.
@Alex-uz7wd
@Alex-uz7wd 8 місяців тому
In extreme cold the oil getting there quickly is far more important than anything else.
@bills6093
@bills6093 8 місяців тому
I think a different low temp test should be added to represent the situation most people are in during winter, such as zero degrees F.
@Dr-YouTube
@Dr-YouTube 8 місяців тому
@@bills6093Did you watch the video?
@bills6093
@bills6093 8 місяців тому
@@Dr-UKposts Yes, his freezer is at -40F, a test which doesn't mean much to most of us.
@TheBond4141
@TheBond4141 8 місяців тому
But an engine block heater makes that a moot point as the oil won't be -40. Also it should still be coated from the last time it ran, unlike in the test where it gets cleaned between uses.
@ItsKing32
@ItsKing32 8 місяців тому
@@Dr-UKpostswhat hes saying is also test the cold oil from 0°F not just warm new and -40 because a majority of people arent going to see -40 temps where they live
@wamps3370
@wamps3370 5 місяців тому
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@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@muhammadnasir3347
@muhammadnasir3347 5 місяців тому
The best automotive channel for me, straight to the point, no click bait, no gimmick, no weird music 😎
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
Thanks!
@waynetec13
@waynetec13 8 місяців тому
This is hands down the #1 most useful channel on UKposts. I've learned so much from you.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@StephenDeTomasi
@StephenDeTomasi 8 місяців тому
I'd argue it's the most useful for analysing oil and tools etc... But that's it. I'd give Kurzgesagt the prize for most useful overall
@waynetec13
@waynetec13 8 місяців тому
@@StephenDeTomasi Kurzgesagt is extremely educational, but 99% of what they teach is not actionable. This channel gives education that makes an impact on my daily life.
@qvb1201
@qvb1201 8 місяців тому
Hey Todd, have you thought about doing the bearing test AFTER freezing the oil? It would be interesting to see how each oil performs on a bearing when frozen.
@lexluthermiester
@lexluthermiester 8 місяців тому
I've wondered that. The thing is, once you actually get to the testing part, the oil has warmed up. You've got a good idea, but it might be difficult to test.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the video idea.
@TheCAD66
@TheCAD66 8 місяців тому
5 gallon bucket and some dry ice could help keep the oil cold while set up takes place.
@lexluthermiester
@lexluthermiester 8 місяців тому
@@TheCAD66 That's a good idea!
@Jetmech1781
@Jetmech1781 8 місяців тому
​@@TheCAD66 Just put the oil directly into the test cup and freeze it. Go from the freezer to the testing rig.
@alexbarna9098
@alexbarna9098 4 місяці тому
Love it ! Great job. I'd love to see a video on amsoil/ hotshot secret diesel oil and a couple of other common diesel oils
@woodzyfox4735
@woodzyfox4735 7 місяців тому
So Oil SAE ratings are based on outdoors temp. I a bit to the North, my outside temps dont get below -15F i use 5w-20 year round. Also thanks to your videos i have seen the reduced ware on parts. Along with that stop oil leak one you did i went with the bardahl brand, less wear. my motor seems happy once more and no leaks! I also used your stuff for my Oil filter, Air filter and all kinda of stuff! love your work.
@Sphendrana
@Sphendrana 8 місяців тому
I love how clearly you speak, how little time you waste (see example: none) in getting the information down, and honestly, I can tell you really enjoy cracking these questions open. One of the best channels on UKposts period, not just by genre, but entirely. Keep having fun, I'll keep watching!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@FrankenDoctor
@FrankenDoctor 8 місяців тому
I have to disagree. As someone with hearing impairment, his rapid speech is hard to follow. If I use the subtitles, then I'm forced to maintain a focus on the subtitles and lose most of the video. But I still love the channel. @@ProjectFarm
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 8 місяців тому
Ever think about watching twice? I'm dyslexic, low IQ, ADD, hearing impaired & have poor eyesight so l replay stop and make notes so l can get the message. This is one of if not the best channels for information.
@bechtoea
@bechtoea 8 місяців тому
@@FrankenDoctor With all due respect, I have hearing impairment as well, with my midrange that is human voice basically causing it to sound muffled. Mr. Project Farm's voice seems to work just fine for me and I have no issue understanding him. I know it sounds like Mr. Obvious but I try to keep videos at a higher than normal volume level as it does help with the comprehension. You can also find a playback device that allows you to play with the equalization.
@mediocreman2
@mediocreman2 8 місяців тому
​@@FrankenDoctorTry playing the videos at .75x speed.
@LacDole
@LacDole 8 місяців тому
Toyota is now using 0W8 in the new hybrid engines, BMW is also using 0W12 is some of their new ones too. Crazy! Even more important to keep the oil fresh in those engines!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thank you for sharing!
@riba2233
@riba2233 8 місяців тому
can't wait for 0W0!
@herrkulor3771
@herrkulor3771 8 місяців тому
If they are designed for it, it should be no problem. Bigger bearing surfaces and smaller clearances.
@nunninkav5307
@nunninkav5307 8 місяців тому
Just pour water in the crank case at that point.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing.
@bquade70
@bquade70 6 місяців тому
Always great content, thank you! Lake Havasu 🌞 Az
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome!
@konrad7492
@konrad7492 5 місяців тому
You can not appreciate this mans attention to detail enough until you've seen hundreds of videos trying to be scientific but failing miserably. No 'whats', 'ifs' and 'whens' were left behind. The questions posed are always answered and in a short and to the point manner. You, Sir, are very appreciated. Thank You!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@lh98
@lh98 8 місяців тому
Problem is the manufacturer doesn’t always have the customer in mind. They often engineer things to bring in more service otherwise their goal would be longevity but longevity doesn’t keep stealerships happy.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thank you for sharing!
@StrongerThanBigfoot
@StrongerThanBigfoot 8 місяців тому
💯
@fourcam150
@fourcam150 8 місяців тому
You make an excellent point. I think manufacturers can be trusted as far as which viscosity to use but the oil change intervals is where they get you. My recommendation is to use the viscosity they call for but under no circumstance would I wait for an oil life monitor to tell me its time for a service.
@Back_door_bandit_98
@Back_door_bandit_98 8 місяців тому
If someone can’t easily figure out what engine oil their vehicle takes than they have no business doing their own oil change.
@markk3652
@markk3652 8 місяців тому
I agree. I’ll put more trust in the recommendation of the man who fixes the broken car than the recommendation of the one who designed it to break at a pre determined point.
@pi1797
@pi1797 8 місяців тому
As shown on the bearing test the 5W-30 had the least amount of wear. Protect your engine. The only reason the 5W-20,0w-20 and 0W-16 exist is due to the EPA push for higher mpg standards. I had relatives working at auto factories that saw the EPA reports mandating it.
@peejay1981
@peejay1981 8 місяців тому
I was wondering about that. My 2014 Toyota Prado lists a range of oils to use given the max/min temperature, and you can basically use anything when in the range of 0-40 deg. c
@Dankboi420
@Dankboi420 8 місяців тому
I believe hybrid vehicles especially plug in hybrids require thinner oil. Since the engine is not always running, thinner oil flows better at lower temp
@sleepyheadz
@sleepyheadz 8 місяців тому
I have a question though. Does engine wear happen mostly when cold starting? And if it is so, what kind of tests would reflect the effects of viscosity on engine wear? An idea comes to mind, start/stopping the wheel 100 times without pre-oiling them. Would that be more reflective of real world circumstances?
@williamromine5715
@williamromine5715 8 місяців тому
It only makes sense that a thinner oil will provide less protection from wear. I always used 10W30 (I'm 81 and pretty set in my ways), but I have never had car that called for these thin oils. My vehicle is a 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee with the straight 6 cylinders. It has 240,000 miles on it and I have only used 10W30 in it, which is getting harder to find.
@ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670
@ihopethiscommentisntabusiv4670 8 місяців тому
EPA doesnt give a damn about your engine, if you need to buy a new one is more money (and taxes) for the government
@mgcarr61camaro91
@mgcarr61camaro91 Місяць тому
This will be a video i will share ! Thanks for your hard work in making these tests👍🇨🇦🇺🇸
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Awesome! Thank you!
@evoson5229
@evoson5229 Місяць тому
Thank you and UKposts! Loved the video and all the information.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Thanks! Glad to hear!
@duggydo
@duggydo 8 місяців тому
Additives make a huge difference on wear. It would be interesting to also do a test with bearing material instead of, or in addition to, the test wheel & pin you are using. I'm pretty sure that is what oil companies tailor there additives to.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@14scottross88
@14scottross88 8 місяців тому
I'd also like to see it be done under pressure somehow, since this is how the engines runs.
@jackmclane1826
@jackmclane1826 8 місяців тому
These pins are often made from a standard ball bearing steel. 100Cr6 or 52100 I think is the yankee name. ;)
@duggydo
@duggydo 8 місяців тому
@@jackmclane1826 yes, but that’s not what rod and cam bearings are made of.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 8 місяців тому
Valve lifters/tappets,cam lobes,piston rings/upper cylinder walls,also timing chain links/rollers. Ball pivots used under rocker arms and pushrod tips. Some cam drive chains and sprockets may be larger/better than the minimum practice,also some modern engines use "roller lifters" to try to reduce demands on lubrication but then there is the axle that the roller rolls on ! The oils are constrained by the fact that the EPA does not like a lot of antiwear additive(s) because of the idea that if the engine is burning a bit more oil than desirable the additive might poison the catalytic converter. I believe EPA has even found a way to spread that to Diesel engine oil requirements. So that obsolete SG rated oil from a few years ago may have had better antiwear performance under adverse conditions than today's oils although such standards as "GF-6" or "GF-6A" are an attempt to come up with oil that will offer adequate protection even with the EPA not allowing much of traditional antiwear additive. I believe the super long oil change distances being advertised by the car makers today are pushing the oil far beyond what is safe. I believe that the additives wear out. A broken in engine is easier to lubricate in my opinion than a brand new one. ideally the connecting rod and crankshaft main bearings are "floated" in oil most of the time that the engine is running.
@johng.4959
@johng.4959 8 місяців тому
Awesome test as usual! I still believe the CAFE requirements have a lot to do with manufacturer selection. Obviously, I would want a "thinner oil" in a very cold climate during start-up. However.... my 22-yr. old Buick calls for 10w-30 and I don't have any inclination to use anything else! Thanks for the tests!
@Itrieditathome889
@Itrieditathome889 8 місяців тому
I use 0w-40 even at -15°F, no problem whatsoever.
@ohioplayer-bl9em
@ohioplayer-bl9em 8 місяців тому
I use 15-40 in the summer and 5-30 in the winter, both full synthetic. 320,000 miles and not a tick from the lifters and it doesn’t burn a drop. Leaks a bit but not enough to get worked up about. I have to top it off maybe 1 or 2 times between changes and I do 10k plus changes. And top it off means IT’s just touching the low line and I like it at the maximum mark. More oil equals better cooling from it.
@RK-kn1ud
@RK-kn1ud 8 місяців тому
I have used conventional/semi-synthetic 10w-30 in every vehicle I've owned in the last 21 years and have never owned a vehicle that didn't last 400,000 miles or more. I have done this regardless of the manufacturers specification. All of these vehicles succumbed to rust or driver-induced failure...no engine failed because of my choice of oil. That said, I changed my oil religiously at 3k or 5k miles (3k for conventional and 5k for synthetic). I also DROVE my vehicles. I beat on them and/or I drove them for significant periods of time to evaporate the condensation in the oil.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@libtrs838
@libtrs838 8 місяців тому
I used 5w30 in -30f and it worked fine. It started a little slow but I think that was more battery 0w30 felt about the same. I agree it is all CAFE even 0w16 cars here recommend 0w20 to 10w30 in other countries. People try to say the engine was specifically engineered for oil that thin. If it was then the manufacturer wouldn't also recommend 10w30. Engine clearances have been the same for a long time. Tolerances have gotten smaller (less variation) and the finish is better but the actual clearances are about the same. Todd's new truck having half the oil pressure also supports this, same size holes thinner oil = lower pressure. Companies care about profit and they lose money if they don't meet CAFE numbers. If thinner oil reduces total engine life but gets a better CAFE number of course they will do that. Next year CAFE is 51 mpg cars, 36.6 mpg trucks and 45 mpg combined. For every 0.1mpg under those numbers they have to pay $5.5 per vehicle produced. Miss the number by 1 mpg and you make 1.8 million cars (Toyota or Ford) thats $99 million dollars lost. Wonder why they are looking into 0w8 oil? Longevity is not always or is never the primary goal.
@markwatkins6882
@markwatkins6882 5 місяців тому
Great job, as usual !!! Always check out your channel for valuable info !!! Only run Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 0W-40 in my 2015 Volvo V60 T5 after watching your oil comparison and it runs like a champ !!! Thanks !!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
You're welcome!
@andrewlee88
@andrewlee88 5 місяців тому
Blows my mind that all hybrid powertrains recommend 0w20 - 0w16 for the engine side assist. Looks like ill be blending some 5w into mine. Thank you for getting right to the point with tangible results and sharing it with everyone. ❤
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@Dankboi420
@Dankboi420 5 місяців тому
Not just for efficiency, hybrids especially plug in require thinner oil. Imagine this, you’re stuck in traffic for a while and only using electric power. Once the traffic is clear and you put your foot down, the cold engine kicks in for power. But the thick oil doesn’t flow quite easily as the thin oil does when cold, you end up damaging the engine even more
@96cr
@96cr 2 місяці тому
@@Dankboi420 if you love in the cold sure everywhere south of the mason Dixon line here in the states is usually above 30 degrees after spring they never go below 80 in Texas until winter
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 8 місяців тому
Lighter weight oils are only used to squeak out some slight efficiency gains. They just don't provide as much protection to the engine components as the traditional 5w-30 oil (as the bearing test clearly showed) and thinner oils will sneak past seals and cause the engine to start burning oil and piddle on your driveway a lot quicker than 5w-30. If you ask the EPA; apparently burning oil and nuking an engine prematurely is fine and dandy as long as you can save 1/2 mpg in the process.
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi 8 місяців тому
yes, i still use 10w40 oil and it is maybe most used here in finland, 5w40 is better for daily use in winter time but... i saw how it turns in 2 years without oil change.. it was like water lol :D
@nwastormchaser9624
@nwastormchaser9624 8 місяців тому
Most wear is at startup.
@MrBanaanipommi
@MrBanaanipommi 8 місяців тому
@@nwastormchaser9624 yes, fepending how cokd id it
@normanflint8757
@normanflint8757 8 місяців тому
Yea now imagine a 0-20 in a diesel engine,, the gm 2.8
@gregkimura5906
@gregkimura5906 8 місяців тому
When you have a chance, watch a video on the new Toyota 2.5L motor that I think was the first to use 0W16. They have been using this oil in Japan for a while before it came to the US. With Toyota's tight tolerances and low friction motor, I believe 0W16 has more than enough viscosity for their motor. If it didn't, you'd see quite a bit of metal in the oil and oil filter, which isn't the case.
@nismo2070
@nismo2070 8 місяців тому
When we first got a carton of 0W-16 oil at my shop, I didn't think it was for a normal daily driven vehicle. I though it was some specialty performance oil for a 2 stroke or something. Just goes to show how much closer the tolerances are in these newer engines. I drive 20+ year old Japanese vehicles and run 10-W30 in them with no issues. It helps that it rarely gets below freezing here.
@123devinzz1
@123devinzz1 8 місяців тому
always hear that term "new tight tolerance engines". but in reality pretty much all tolerances have been the same since the 90s as far as japanese engines go. also the reason the idle oil pressure on his 2020 is so low at idle. same bearing tolerances but lower viscosity oil.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing.
@BUILTFORDTOUGH79
@BUILTFORDTOUGH79 7 місяців тому
You should have more subscribers than those mindless “ influencers”. You’re videos are thorough, and the normal individual would never be able to spend the money to test the unending amount of products you test weekly. Thanks man… love the videos.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome!
@richardharris492
@richardharris492 6 місяців тому
ABSOLUTELY, THEY ARE HERE TO DISCREDIT REALITY
@gus473
@gus473 8 місяців тому
Always enjoy the oil tests! 👨‍🔬😎✌️ Would still like to see a sump pump showdown sometime!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thank you!
@RRaucina
@RRaucina 8 місяців тому
Yes, sump pumps -Liberty and Zoeller for starters@@ProjectFarm
@gus473
@gus473 8 місяців тому
@@RRaucina Wayne & Simers, too!
@chrisfreemesser5707
@chrisfreemesser5707 8 місяців тому
I hear some new Toyota calls for 0W-8 motor oil...seems crazy to me to use something so thin. Kinda sounds like they're sacrificing engine longevity for lower friction/better fuel economy
@shoosh9996
@shoosh9996 8 місяців тому
If it keeps going , soon it will be just 0...
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing.
@andymike6575
@andymike6575 2 місяці тому
Pretty soon Toyota will be calling for thin air instead of oil for lubrication. Gotta save themselves ¢ on CAFE fines
@romanc.5074
@romanc.5074 Місяць тому
I was looking for this one, thank you sir.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
You are welcome!
@navaneethakrishnans1299
@navaneethakrishnans1299 4 місяці тому
Your efforts are incredible sir, you have rightly pointed out the practical reason which is shunned by advertising.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 місяці тому
Thanks!
@thegrizzable
@thegrizzable 8 місяців тому
Your testing and thoroughness is second to none. Great work as always
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@died4us590
@died4us590 8 місяців тому
Always a good show, and thanks for all the time, effort, and personal money used to do these tests. G-d bless everyone.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@RalphCastillo-sr7fe
@RalphCastillo-sr7fe 8 місяців тому
I will protect this man with my life. he puts everything on each videos. Keep it up my Brother.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks, will do!
@kennethfeltman7693
@kennethfeltman7693 5 місяців тому
Not sure if you realize how much of a positive impact you have on most of us. Ty
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@jimmotormedic
@jimmotormedic 8 місяців тому
Another great video. I'm old school and always thought a thicker oil was the way to go but I'm changing my thoughts a bit on the matter. I was always a 15w 40 guy in everything even small engines. I've never had an engine fail using it but sometimes colder starts were a problem. Then the 5w 40 diesel oils came out and I slowly switched everything to that. Boy did it make a difference in everything especially the diesels. I've come to the opinion that unless the engine is under maximum load and at high temperature all the time the thicker oils may not be necessary. Also oil pressure is an indicator of resistance to flow. So low oil pressure doesn't necessarily mean the engine is not getting oil. Engineering is constantly trying to improve fuel economy and I think that is a major factor, but also I think modern engines using thinner oils have a much higher oil pump volume to try to keep things cool. It's hard for an older guy to get his head wrapped around a 1.5 4 cylinder stock engine producing 250+ hp. Most all auto engines have oil coolers today and that says something. More power in a small package turning higher rpms and a turbo or 2 make a lot of heat and thinner oils flowing faster pick up more heat and carry it away for cooling . Sorry long winded but I'm always trying to learn and understand
@tjm3900
@tjm3900 8 місяців тому
I think you will find most modern engines employ a coolant to oil heat exchanger, not just an oil cooler.
@axeami1354
@axeami1354 8 місяців тому
newer engines usually have a cylinder that's purposely designed to be micro porous, it means they actually hold onto thinner oils but struggle with thicker ones, couple this with reduced friction piston rings, tighter journals , oil passageways and bore sprayers designed specifically for thinner oils to flow through them it makes it a bad idea to put thicker oils in them. Even though the thicker oil itself is technically a better lubricator when put in a modern engine it actually lubricates worse and can potentially even cause issues. Another thing to note is that a lot of new economy engines are direct injection which usually results in more carbon build up around the valves over time so using a thicker oil with less additives could increase the amount of carbon build up over time.
@Trammael
@Trammael 8 місяців тому
@@axeami1354 this all makes sense but then Toyota will specify 5w-20 in Europe and 0w-16 in the US for the same engine. If everything else were equal wouldn’t it make sense to equalize the oil specifications? Others reflexively scream CAFE but I’m not so sure
@rotorhead5000
@rotorhead5000 8 місяців тому
You grasped a lot of things most struggle with, a lighter oil doesn't necessarily mean less protection, because oil flow plays a lot into it.
@jimmotormedic
@jimmotormedic 8 місяців тому
@@tjm3900 exactly, it warms the oil in cooler weather. Also aids in bringing engine up to stable temperature. I was going to mention it but I figured I was a little long winded as it was
@semperfipar1299
@semperfipar1299 8 місяців тому
Great test. If you could pump the oil across the bearing in the wear test may be more accurate when testing different viscosity oils. I noticed the thicker oil did not flow very well in the temperature tests so I had to wonder will it make it to the bearing surface at the initial engine startup?
@derickd2385
@derickd2385 7 місяців тому
I am glad to see everyone in here is smarter than the car company engineer team.🤣
@marigri2464
@marigri2464 2 місяці тому
Thankyou for that well put demo, for a better informed decision,
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 2 місяці тому
You are welcome!
@vincentkowski8466
@vincentkowski8466 8 місяців тому
Project Farm is a true America treasure ! Thank you Sir for these fantastic tests. You are a blessing. 👍
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@moestrei
@moestrei 8 місяців тому
World treasure.
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 8 місяців тому
The most important part of the video was at the end differ to the OEM recommendation on oil viscosity. Don’t just throw a 0w16 at your engine if it calls for a 10w40. If you live in a hotter climate use the higher viscosity of oil recommended if it’s colder vice versa. The only thing you should probably take into question is the oil change intervals especially with forced induction engines.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the feedback.
@MikeM-tt5fl
@MikeM-tt5fl 5 місяців тому
Great tests, straight to the point. Thank You very much.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome!
@tomelwich49
@tomelwich49 4 місяці тому
Outstanding testing and thank you from a new car owner!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 4 місяці тому
Thanks!
@prestondeters5093
@prestondeters5093 8 місяців тому
It would probably be very difficult to do, but being able to test wear resistance while the oil is very hot would be cool. Them being at room temperature is closer to winter viscosity than hot viscosity. I wonder if they would be closer at those higher temps.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the feedback.
@Ajaxaxxess
@Ajaxaxxess 8 місяців тому
Your dedication to these tests are incredible! thanks for all you do.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome!
@kenneth2405
@kenneth2405 8 місяців тому
This guy is a scientist, so good info, thanks for all the work.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@erichildreth7562
@erichildreth7562 5 місяців тому
Thanks for doing these tests and it is nice to know that 5w-30 is a good oil to use and that's what GM calls for. Great stuff indeed!!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 5 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@ronmorrell9809
@ronmorrell9809 8 місяців тому
My understanding is that most of the wear occurs on a dry start up, before the oil arrives to the overhead valve train. That's why the friction tester wheel is coated with oil prior to testing. Wouldn't the much faster cold flow of the 0W-16 more than compensate for the decreased wet protection? Especially in vehicles driven short distances?
@Resistculturaldecline
@Resistculturaldecline 4 місяці тому
There's a large factor that never gets discussed, and that is thermal expansion. An engines machined clearances are tested and engineered to be correct --- at full temp. The bearing clearances are effectively incorrect at cooler temps, and accounts for much of start up wear.
@patrickquirk-qz8ri
@patrickquirk-qz8ri 2 місяці тому
I use it Lucas syn on all oil changes, 185300miles going strong, one bottle per change.
@brownp93
@brownp93 8 місяців тому
Love these oil videos! Incredibly thorough! Wouldn't mind seeing more two-stroke comparison whether it's oil ratio or oil types at wide open throttle. Even some oil additives for decoking would be interesting to see!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@scottperry7164
@scottperry7164 Місяць тому
Other UKpostsrs should take notes and learn from this man, this is how videos should be made. Just get to the point! I love it!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Thanks so much!
@jgarcia2305
@jgarcia2305 6 місяців тому
A lot of important info in a short video. Perfect!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 місяців тому
Thanks!
@victormuller2394
@victormuller2394 8 місяців тому
I love all your videos it’s definitely helped me make some buying decisions in the past. Just a suggestion though I’d love to see you add the bearing test with the cold oils to the videos. Best way I could think to simulate starting your car in the cold of winter and letting it warm up before driving.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@davidpowell3347
@davidpowell3347 8 місяців тому
The high wear rates in a real world engine when it is cold are likely due in part to the presence of condensed water and liquid fuel removing some of the oil film from engine wear areas. Especially the upper cylinder and piston rings. @@ProjectFarm
@stg.pikapika
@stg.pikapika 8 місяців тому
Always a great video, love the breakdowns and simplicity for anyone to understand. keep up the amazing work man, thank you for another great video
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Appreciate it!
@theghost75
@theghost75 2 місяці тому
Good information for climate considerations on what oil to run / per season
@putster98
@putster98 8 місяців тому
Would love to see a comparison of oil filters. Keep up the great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
@dimmacommunication
@dimmacommunication 8 місяців тому
​@@ProjectFarmDon't forget the cartridge style filters for us Europeans, some ford like the F-150 use them too.
@gallimead
@gallimead 8 місяців тому
Don't think anyone has ever commented on this, but the tight vocal editing, is always a plus point, and I appreciate it. Your videos are concise, informative, and still yet through.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@Jay-fy7bn
@Jay-fy7bn Місяць тому
Best channel ever. No other channel compares to testing products like you, Project Farm. Question for the next oil test. I am wondering if testing how long it takes an oil to get to operating temperature would be a good idea. I just bought a new vehicle that calls for 0W-16 and wonder how quickly it warms up compared to my previous 0W-40 & 10W-30. Thanks! Keep up the great content!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Thanks, will do! Thanks for the suggestion.
@BixbyConsequence
@BixbyConsequence 8 місяців тому
Started using a synthetic 5W-30 in the mid 1980's. My dad said I was crazy to put such a thin oil in my car! After about 200,000 miles I gave him the car and he drove it for years.
@fidelcatsro6948
@fidelcatsro6948 8 місяців тому
What car was that🤔?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharng.
@CrimsonStarCarnage
@CrimsonStarCarnage 8 місяців тому
I'm just glad you specified to stick to the recommended oil per car as my dad failed to do that in one of my first truck and ended up clogging up my oil pump and the pumps intake screen because the oil was to thick and started sludging up within a 3000 mile range
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for sharing.
@cooldaddyslick6869
@cooldaddyslick6869 8 місяців тому
What were the grades?
@damnyiffers
@damnyiffers Місяць тому
Great to see someone finally put evidence behind the anecdote. Sacrifice a tiny bit of fuel economy and get a FAR longer lasting engine. I run 20w30 in my Ls1 statesman and it's got over 500,000kms on it. Doesn't burn oil, never smokes and has never been rebuklt
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Thanks!
@seanabe7375
@seanabe7375 3 місяці тому
I"m glad you had that last comment about using mfg recommended oil viscosity. There are cam phasers and other such things that require the oil that is stated by the manufacturer. I have a new Honda that requires 0W-20. My previous Honda used 5W-20 and was going strong at 200K when I traded it in.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 3 місяці тому
Thanks for sharing.
@anandchundi6805
@anandchundi6805 8 місяців тому
Miss the oil test videos. I know you can only test so much so many different ways but glad to see another classic from you Project Farm. Love the oil test videos 😂❤
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@CubNole
@CubNole 8 місяців тому
Just for consideration, that late model Chevrolet showed in your video does not use an actual oil pressure gauge, but a “dummy” gauge which is programmed to stay at an approximate position as long as the pressure sensor sees X_psi minimum.
@duramax74
@duramax74 8 місяців тому
Yes, they are just an on & off switch mounted to the engine. The dash is an estimate based off of RPM.
@filanfyretracker
@filanfyretracker 8 місяців тому
@@duramax74 heck my Colorado does not have an oil pressure gauge at all, well it has one in the trip computer on the cluster but not a needle like my 1995 S-10 did.
@emm8485
@emm8485 6 місяців тому
Insightful! Very nice video. Comical on the race section, LOL!
@nickamarit
@nickamarit 28 днів тому
I love your videos so much. Thank you for the great presentation.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 27 днів тому
Thanks and you are welcome!
@ronlind1757
@ronlind1757 8 місяців тому
Thanks for a great video! My 2002 5.3 Silverado has 358,000 miles, 5w-30 year round, non synthetic oil, and never had engine apart.
@kanyeeastlolz
@kanyeeastlolz 8 місяців тому
Wow. How often do you change the oil and are you in a cold climate?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
@ronlind1757
@ronlind1757 8 місяців тому
@kanyeeastlolz Yes, Minnesota actually. All my vehicles.. every 3300 miles. So 10k miles, change it 3 times. Then, every 10k, rotate tires and drain trans oil (trans pan drain plug 4 quarts come out). It is sooo cheap to do this. I'm 65, retired, my dad taught me this since high school. I have always used Castrol gtx non synthetic. Just my .02 sharing.
@3rdpig
@3rdpig 8 місяців тому
Very interesting! As an old timer it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that you should use the same 0w-20 motor oil whether you live on a permanent glacier where anything above freezing is considered a heatwave, or, like myself, you live in desert where you put on a sweater when temps drop below 80. I'm going to need more than just a manufacturer recommending that, because as an ex dealer tech I've seen manufacturers recommend some pretty stupid things over the years. Things that are designed to make them money, not extend the life of the vehicle. And before y'all start typing, remember that oil temp and coolant temps are NOT the same thing.
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 8 місяців тому
Id say in the end it comes down to the actual oil temp. The higher they climb = the thinner the oil gets its as simple as that
@volvo09
@volvo09 8 місяців тому
If you open your owners manual it will have alternate oils than what's on the cap. My 18 f150 says 5w30 on the cap, but in the manual 5w40 is still in the temperature range... (although 5w30 would be better for me in winter).
@thecloneguyz
@thecloneguyz 8 місяців тому
If you run a block heater 24/7 then your engine never cools down and your oil doesn't break down the viscosity I can get 10,000 miles between oil changes if I use a block heater
@volvo09
@volvo09 8 місяців тому
@@thecloneguyz running a block heater 24/7 is absolutely insane. You are wasting more money on electricity than changing your oil every month.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the feedback.
@riskybiscuit5594
@riskybiscuit5594 7 місяців тому
Always a great take away. Thanks PF 👍🏻👍🏻
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@AaronsTalks
@AaronsTalks 7 місяців тому
I'm curious how well each of these does when compressed against a rubber gasket. I mean, which would leak first or which would be more prone to leaking. Thanks for your awesome videos as always :)
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 7 місяців тому
You are welcome!
@emiliog.4432
@emiliog.4432 8 місяців тому
I switched to 5w30 from 0w20 last year. Mobil 1. Car makers want higher mileage numbers at the cost of the engine. I also change my oil often and earlier than recommended. I live in the South. No cold weather. Good test. Thank you
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thank you for sharing!
@Gobbbbb
@Gobbbbb 8 місяців тому
Mine calls for 10w30 but I use 10w40. Completely agree with you.
@moshet842
@moshet842 8 місяців тому
@@Gobbbbb At 10w-30 you are already at the upper end of viscosity. Completely unnecessary to switch to 40.
@Gobbbbb
@Gobbbbb 8 місяців тому
@@moshet842 With an air cooled engine in 25c+ weather, I'll stick to using the higher viscosity. There may be not much of a difference, but the 10w40 oils here in the UK are considerably cheaper and have slight better protection. It's a no brainer.
@moshet842
@moshet842 8 місяців тому
@@Gobbbbb Oh, you didn't say it was air-cooled. Keep doing what you are doing then.
@emotionz3
@emotionz3 8 місяців тому
What I’ve always found interesting is how manufactures recommend different weight oils for identical vehicles with identical engines in different markets. For example my SVT Focus is recommended 5w-20 in the USA but 5w-30 in Europe. My Mazda Skyactiv-G 2-5l NA is recommended 0w-20 in USA and Canada, and 0w-16 in Japan, which has almost identical climate swings to the continental USA, and interestingly, 5w-20 in Mexico, which presumably doesn’t even need Winter-certified oil, or thin starting weight for that matter.
@Broeils
@Broeils 8 місяців тому
Seemingly same oils in different markets can have totally different compositions, might be a factor?
@emotionz3
@emotionz3 8 місяців тому
@@Broeils wow, never actually thought about that but you’re probably right. Good chance the regulatory bodies in different countries have different standards.
@ke6gwf
@ke6gwf 8 місяців тому
@@emotionz3 there's also different emissions regulations in different areas, and oil choice can impact emissions testing, and they probably have to test with the recommended oil.
@daves7775
@daves7775 8 місяців тому
@@emotionz3 No, the oils sold have the same composition - if they are meeting the same standards. And since they are shipped World Wide - such and such Penzoil Platinum Full Synthetic - 5w-30 will have exactly the same spec's anywhere.
@AZTG92
@AZTG92 8 місяців тому
@@daves7775 Many manufacturers order their oils in local refineries. Unless they control every batch, you do not really know if the oil meets the original specs. Only few companies produce their oils 100% by themselves and ship it worldwide
@Techn0destruct0101
@Techn0destruct0101 6 місяців тому
I’d love to see you compare small engine oils, Briggs, Kohler etc.. I love all of the detail that goes into your comparison videos!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 місяців тому
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
@lovemycountry12
@lovemycountry12 7 місяців тому
Always appreciate your tests and results. Thanks
@maycrew9126
@maycrew9126 6 місяців тому
Sounds like I'll just stick with the 0W-30 and enjoy the benefits of cold weather viscosity and better engine wear long term. Love these tests! Great work!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 6 місяців тому
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the feedback.
@Mijanboy
@Mijanboy 6 місяців тому
The question is, what is the HTHS value of your 0W30 oil? In Europe, there are 2 types - 1. with reduced HTHS = from 2.9 mPa.s. 2. with normal HTHS = > 3.5 mPa.s. 0W20 oil has HTHS = 2.6 - 2.9 mPa.s. It could happen that HTHS will be the same 2.9 mPa.s for 0W30 as 0W20... and the difference won't actually be what you think.
@JasPlun
@JasPlun 6 місяців тому
Better to stick with what the manufacturer recommends because the new engines being produced today are designed around the oil and what the engine requires so by making changes you can be damaging the engine and therefore shortening the engine life. With Turbo's and Direct Injection things have changed also tolerances are much tighter so that heavier oil can keep vital engine parts from getting the lubrication they need. A good example is the dreaded Ford 5.4 3 valve engine it had small channels for the oil to go through and people that skimped on oil changes would get sludge blocking the holes and then robbing the engine of lubrication. Newer engines are even tighter with tolerances so they went to thinner oils to make sure everything got proper lubrication. It is unwise to change to different viscosities. Maybe back in the 70's and 80's it was better to increase viscosity because tolerances were different, but not in todays engines.
@EricVonZipper
@EricVonZipper 5 місяців тому
@@JasPlun Only problem with that is that it's our corrupt government mandating the 0W20 for .ooo1 more mpg. I spilled 0W20 on my driveway going to 10W30 for summer use, it was a warm day and in the sun. I soaked up the pooled 0W20 and then put away my tools, ramps etc...by the time I was done, I was going to get hot soapy water for the rest of the oil, but it had evaporated. Go ahead and use 0W20 in the summer to adhere to our corrupt government. And his evaporative test is exactly what I am talking about, so I won't use 0W20 in the summer.
@caseyalexander2244
@caseyalexander2244 4 місяці тому
Not necessarily true. Many times 0W30 specs higher viscosity at operating temperature than many 5W30 oils.
@dawsonpolaris
@dawsonpolaris 8 місяців тому
I love how you always explain the standards you are working against so every video can be watched as a standalone. Makes it easier to share the video with the folks I discuss them with.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@adrianrobinson7953
@adrianrobinson7953 8 місяців тому
Thx u so much I’ve been waiting for this review!
@gregrobsn
@gregrobsn 8 місяців тому
Great test. I never run a 20 weight in a turbo charged engine but that's where the manufacturers are going because of CAFE averages. I realize you have to tell people to follow the manufacturers recommendations because of the liability issue but they really don't care how long your engine lasts as long as it makes it past the warranty period. VW had a 7 year or 70 thousand mile warranty before they switched to 0W-20. Then they dropped the warranty to 4 years or 50 thousand miles. They wouldn't have done that unless they don’t have faith in the oil they're recommending.
@tech29X
@tech29X 8 місяців тому
Exactly what I was saying yesterday. Glad others are catching on the gimmick. Also don't trust the engine oil life indicator light. Just use full synthetic engine oil and change it at least twice a year even if you don't drive over the mileage limit.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.
@gregkimura5906
@gregkimura5906 8 місяців тому
VW has a 6/72K warranty for only 2018 and 2019 model years. They did it to help potential buyers feel good about the company again. Remember that they got caught cheating on their diesel emissions. They were fined and had to buy back cars from their customers (or provide other remedies). It had nothing to do with 0W20 motor oil. If you look at the reason VW motors fail, it's not for lack of lubrication. Most times it's due to overheating. Their cooling system is overly complex and there are many places a coolant leak can occur. I've blown up two 2.0L VW motors in the past 4 years. Coolant leaks and runs low, then the motor overheats. Of course not temp gauge, so by the time the dummy light comes on, the motor is cooked!
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 7 місяців тому
Eurocars need a 30 or 40 weight period. Their engines are not build for thinner oils.
@jeffrobodine8579
@jeffrobodine8579 6 місяців тому
@@alouisschafer7212 5W40 synthetic is recommended on most newer European cars, or at least it was.
@hkk3656
@hkk3656 8 місяців тому
I think you said it best at the end. Your recommendation is to use the oil the manufacturer recommends. I'm old school and my car calls for 0-16 oil. It's hard for me to do, but I do.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks for the feedback.
@littlet7556
@littlet7556 7 місяців тому
I agree. Old school here too and have a new Toyota and forced to use 0W-16 due to warranty. But other countries can use 5W-30
@wailingalen
@wailingalen 2 місяці тому
Yeah mine calls for 0-20 and I get reminded every time when Inlook at the fill cap 😳
@GoemonIshikawa13
@GoemonIshikawa13 Місяць тому
Thank you very much for your data, for your time, and for all the project that you're carring on. Would you please edit next videos with metric measures?
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm Місяць тому
Thanks for the suggestion.
@drewhh6821
@drewhh6821 8 місяців тому
Greatly appreciate putting the stick with the what the manufacturer recommends. The thicker oil maybe provide better wear protection, but will definitely cause more damage when used in the wrong application. Unfortunately people may not understand that the oil recommended by the manufacturer is based on bearing clearances and other tolerances.
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks!
@Olds_Pwr
@Olds_Pwr 8 місяців тому
I understand where your coming from. But in the real world, I have used thicker oil for hundreds of thousands of miles with no engine damage.
@MrTruckerf
@MrTruckerf 8 місяців тому
The manufacturers are very concerned about EPA fuel mileage mandates because they get fined if they are not reached. Lighter oils give higher mileage. Whether the engine lasts 200 or 300 thousand miles is not their concern.
@drewhh6821
@drewhh6821 8 місяців тому
@@Olds_Pwr you've put 5w-30 when it calls for 0w-16?
@Olds_Pwr
@Olds_Pwr 8 місяців тому
@@drewhh6821 No.
@Todd66
@Todd66 8 місяців тому
This channel should be considered a national treasure. not only can I not tell you how many PF videos I have watched, but I have watched MANY of them more than once. Such a good channel. Another well done video much appreciated!😊
@Kgio-2112
@Kgio-2112 8 місяців тому
If you consider it, it is!
@ProjectFarm
@ProjectFarm 8 місяців тому
Thanks so much!
@BSGSV
@BSGSV 8 місяців тому
I believe Project Farm is recognized unofficially at least as the goto for product test results because of his scientific method, testing multiple ways, and objectively stated results.
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