I got here by accident, i stayed on purpose...

Eric is oddly very, very proud of having been friends with Henry Kissinger. A very sharp and clever mind with a glaring blind spot!

This is about 7x more interesting than I expected

The last thing we want is a virtual Kissinger! We had to wait for decades until that PoS kicked the bucket

First time hear Eric speaks scientifically. Now I understand why Google was so successful. His understanding the progress in AI is the deepest and the logical I ever heard. Impressed!

Eric went from fighting the man to being best friends with Henry Kissinger. What a transformation.

One of the most interesting episodes of World Science Festival, ever.

This aspect of learning is like the old reading. Marvellous. I got 'stuck' in certain subjects & didn't progress within those subjects. Once I left School & continued my education whilst working, I eventually reached my goal.

This guy was at Princeton 50 years ago? That is some very effective anti-aging treatment.

This guy scares me. Alarm bells when I hear a close friend of Henry Kissinger, productivity, economic growth etc. .Prof Brian's question about becoming the big man is such an excellent one that I don't think he managed to get an honest answer to

I have a bone to pick with Mr. Schmidt about his UKposts algorithm: How come it took this long to recommend this channel to me when this is the only type of thing I watch?? Answer me that Mr. Smarty Pants! In all seriousness, this was awesome. I was hanging on every word.

Eric Schmidt is a Great Communicator! You know Eric is wicked smart when he has Brian saying "scary" multiple times.

He mentions the Vietnam war and how it led to questioning the morality of our government, which led to the structural philosophy of the Internet, being by the people instead of through government. And then, five minutes later you find out that Kissinger is his best friend?! I’m usually not a big fan of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, but in this case, I think it’s warranted.

This is one of your best interviews Brian! You did a remarkable job eliciting incredible insights from your guest. Thank you 🙏

There is an underlying very simplistic view of good and bad in many parts of this discussion.

The most sober and factual discussion of what is likely the most melodramatic phase in the history of human progress. Spoiler alert: The drama doesn’t subside.

One of the most interesting discussions I have heard about this technology and it's potential impacts. Eric Schmidt is an extraordinary and perceptive man. Thanks Brian.

This science channel keeps me sane, always intriguing and thought provoking. As usual, we have another fine example of a human being. This man is using his brain for the right reasons; a man who is nearly 70, has the knowledge and experience of several decades, with an apparant brain age of a man in his 30's, impressive; like a an explosion of tech knowledge, and talking to someone who has seen the future. An AI personal assistant, perfectly tailored to a specific person's learning rate sounds promising, and could solve the worlds education problem; and advanced VR so vivid, indistinguishable from reality where you can break the laws of physics will satisfy the human urge to explore. The virtual reconstruction of a historic person is very likely, almost certainly will be of both Brian Greene and Eric Schmidt, I am sure. I sometimes I wake from a thought or a dream, in a that split second I have experienced knowledge what is impossible to explain in a sentence; words take too long and your probably on to something there. Looking forward to the next one already. Thank you, Keep going.

organic chemistry is an extremely visual (picture-based) subject matter. I found using imagery, students were able to comprehend very complicated multi-step reactions.

Wonderful dialog! I concur with Eric Schimidt on every point and that's a rarity regarding a topic as complex as AI

One of the most phenomenal discussions on AI to date.

Great conversation! 🔭🚀🛰️🪐

0:12 I’ve been pondering the intersection of AI and Quantum since 2019! I’m excited to see how you all discuss this! Love your channel, Brian!

Thanks for this conversation. It illustrates how AI is accelerating the acceleration of science and technological acceleration. I think the technological singularity is coming a whole lot faster than even the most optimistic experts predict. Thanks for posting.

@1:10:37 - Brian Greene makes such an excellent point about teaching methodology re maximum next step for each student. Any school who leverages technology and implements this practice will see their school STEM scores elevate to highest levels across the board !

Really incredible conversation... so much knowledge, so much to think about. Thanks for putting it together Brian!

Science isn't based primarily on "proof" like mathematics, but on evidence, prediction, and observations that test the prediction, and so add to the evidence. Nature, not mathematics or people, has the final word about the best current world model.

Amazing conversation, thanks for sharing.

Thank you so much for sharing this. This is the most articulate explanation of how AI will change our world I have found. I am so grateful for Dr. Greene and his work and I am optimistic about the future of AI especially in the realm of education and medicine.

"Democracy is when I get my way"

Brian this is the Nexus I have been waiting for, I have told Bard (past Ai ) and Copilot what I wish for concerning knowledge, they seem active enough supplying me with awesome material such as this conversation with you and Eric. This Nexus also has taught me enough that I can milk the AIs' for much more than ever possible. My grand kids will be taught from this conversation . Now we the people would benefit from more extended conversations between you two as you both are extremely perceptive, concise and entertaining. What a match in brilliance, my family will grow much more rapidly in understanding and hopefully in wisdom, also I liked your idea about spatial conception, conceiving knowledge and adgility via AR/VR, AWESOME IDEA.

This has me thinking. Significant changes to our society will happen at a faster pace. I look forward to it, but keeping up with it may be challenging.

I doubt Einstein would have said, a person like Kissinger, should be resurrected in any form. How many lives, stolen? Intelligence, consciousness, conscience. Good or evil?

Thank you so much for this video. Great insights about AGI from Eric and excellent questions thrown by Brian.

Amazing conversation between two very bright minds. A pleasure listening to Eric Schmitt

Tbh... it is a little rough to listen to a scientist actually say "Henry Kissinger was my best friend..." Oh man, that is rough. It is possible that he would be one of the 10 most evil people in American history. I have a hard time understanding how someone who can be so brilliant and objective could form a relationship with a such darkness? I am gonna do my best to move on from that sentence, and hopefully me venting here will be enough so I don't do the typical thing and dismiss someone just because we have different values. There is still a lot to learn here, and I am telling myself "don't allow my own personal politics to interfere with expanding my knowledge of the universe". Ok, vent over. Hopefully I can be more mature and appreciate this for what it is.

much like reading a book, it is a thought provoking conversation, thank you both!

The education part at 1:07 to 1:13 is quite interesting here. Feedback loops that incrementally adjust to a students learning capabilities, primarily using our dominant visual cortex.

What a great mind Eric has. First time I've got to know him. Good job Brian 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I am 36 mins in and loving this, thinking I understand what they are saying in general and wishing I was 10% as smart as Schmidt and Greene.....

Brian, please do one of these interview-talks with Scott Arronson. Seems you are of late interviewing people with deep pockets, especially when it comes to tech-oriented topics. The quantum computing conversation hype tendency needs to be constantly reined in by the actual science. We need to be constantly reminded that engineering isn't science, that subjective motives bring the very noise that makes science so necessary (and effective). To my mind, computation is limited in a hard way by basic causality, by the cost of structure, or more specifically, the cost of changing structure (one to zero, zero to one). This cost is absolute. Information demands latency of this structure. Structure itself only makes sense in any computational domain, to the extent that structure is defined as latency. So… if a dynamics that produces quantum entanglement and superposition, can only do so outside of structural latency, well something needs to be accounted for regarding the cost of translation from informational structure to the unstructured (latency-free) world of quantum dynamics and then back out to informational structure. Susskind has struggled towards this notion in his work to translate between general relativity and quantum dynamics. To wit, this is not a computational problem, this is a basic physics problem. And, importantly, we've seen a new scientific realm taken to absurd fringes before. Alchemy, gases as ethers, electricity as progenitor of life, rockets and science fiction, robots as slaves, and now, computers as gateway to rapturous access to immortality and omnipotence). Time for some reality. Tech titans like Schmidt are people who have experienced a long string of fortunate events. They can't help but to be wearing deeply tinted rose-colored glasses, and can't help but be ridiculously optimistic, at a level mimicking extreme narcism. They re also likely to be very very good at charm and rhetorical manipulation. If this is really a science-oriented, science-driven group, let’s get back to the core of science, its demand that we self-identify all of the sources of subjective bias and noise that we bring, and to go about the methodological filtering of that noise so that we might better see beyond what we might want or fear to be, to what actually is. Unless we do, Quantum Computing and AI are bound to become the "Singularity", the "Cold Fusion", of the 2020s.

I hope luminaries such as these guys and Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Demmis, etc continue to do well and have a positive impact on the alignment of these systems.

That, Kissinger was a polymath , is never in question. Where his incredible assessment and strategy led us, is another debate. Eric is brilliant and perhaps the most incisive and comprehensive in his elucidation about AI for common folks like us.. hats off to him

It would have been an even more interesting discussion if they would have drilled down on physics-informed neural networks which Eric eluded to. I've been working with them lately. They're really cool.

Thank you guys!

Thank you Brian for another great Video!!!!

The examples Eric poses are powerful learning tools for us in the audience. Thank you.

What I'd love to see in my lifetime, where we can upload information directly to our brains.

The most intriguing potential of AI is not uncovering new facts, but finding unseen connections and building cogent hypotheses and theories based on what we already know.

i work as developer in a very complex software architecture and i can confirm that gpt-4 accelerates me immensely. not for the casual programming stuff but for everytime i struggle with a framework, i have a weird bug etc. basically the things that consume the most time. just yesterday i was checking whats wrong with an url and it found that the query uses 2 question marks instead of one, i simply didn't see that. in the future i would like it to have more context of what i'm working on and be quite a bit smarter, the leverage is just beginning

Wonderful as usual Brian , simply wonderful . Never stop ☯️

This was both enlightening and frightening all at once. A Really fascinating conversation. But talking about good guys with AI is like talking about good guys with nuclear weapons.

it's reassuring to hear so much positivity around AI, most of what is being said on youtube is always tinted with a bit of doom and gloom, but mr schmidt here reminds us of why we wanted AI in the first place, to augment what humans are already doing.

Frank Herbert kinda addressed the ramifications of machine dependency.

Brian Greene and Eric Schmidt 👋👋👋 that was Great thank you ty ty.

"my great friend Henry Kissinger" lol goodbye

Extraordinary interview with Eric Schmidt.

Thank you.

So glad to have found you! Fantastic information! Thank you both for a mind bending conversation. Wow.

Eric is a fabulous interview and brings so much experience to the table! Great conversation!!

The 1:04:18 discussion around education is very fascinating and relevant even though I enjoyed this whole talk.

Wow this is such an amazing discussion. Mind blowing 🤩

Well uncovered future threats and perspectives to live in the world where all people are relatively satisfied and do not break the world with extremal behaviour. It's crucial to respect real qualities and distinct them among an ocean of upcoming illusions.

Fascinating discussion! Both exciting and very disconcerting !🇿🇦

I LOVE this idea of a math tutor Ai that uses visuals and generated images that break any math problem down into the fewest steps needed to come up with the correct answer, and still be easy to remember, including adaption to the personality and/or learning speed/ability of the student. Brilliant idea, including the idea of free to everyone (revenue comes from advertising, digital mining, or some other clever and practical, eco-friendly and/or freedom-friendly operation, grants, NDA's etc.); as well it seems a genius idea to use the "for-profit model" of a non-governmental corporation, to attract the best minds and rogue geniuses out there to develop such AI systems (even if ur primary customer might b some 3 letter agency out there- it's about selling an image and branding the idea that the "best minds go here to get a job, because they pay better and treat u better than most other boot camps, even the US Navy...". I'd love to get in an early investment (if i get the funds someday), or even help write the by-laws for such a "S-corporation, tech-start-up"- to look into such win-win, applied AI products and services. If nothing else, i'd be willing to pay hundreds of my own, hard-earned buck$ for such a "math tutor robot" that lets me learn on my own schedule and be move at whatever speed i feel comfortable with, either slower or faster, ... so i wouldn't get bored with the pace of things. Excellent product idea, so i'll just pray the Google Goddess somehow makes it so, and thanks for this genius video featuring two, real geniuses... u guys r aririte n my book! Sunsaver out.

Excellent topic, excellent conversation. Is there a version of this video with subtitles in Spanish? If so, please someone let me know it.

Eric never stops😂🥰excellent way to wrap it up. It's up to all of us. Liberty.. free will.. is why the the universe works so well. We come here, make bad choices, less and less, and forgive and be nice more often.. becoming more and more of the "it's not about me" MO is so important

I like Brian Greene, I enjoy listening to him explaining things in his inimitably coherent and easy to follow way. He does a great job of brining cutting edge science to laymen like me.

trustability ... the challenge !! Not because of ai but because of humans using it .. Great conversation, many thanks.

This was the best interview (Inspite of the wok via swat that slipped through occasionally)

Definitely have a Part II.

Y'all almost got to some critical questions: What happens when the AI understands how it's QC hardware functions? Do all particles become possible computers? Does reality itself then become silicon?

Such clear and concise chat. Eric was a close friend with Henry Kissinger (a war criminal). Interesting.

Thank you Eric and Brian. Awesome discussion

Excellent interview, questions, answers and look forward of what is happening.

Excellent. Thank you. Appreciated.

I have consistently underestimated Eric from the time he purchased UKposts for $1.65B back in 2006 to his eloquent exposition here. Bravo!

These AI talks are great. Hope to see more such guests.

this is like therapy for me. just two men having a humble, calm, logcial discussion. lets me ignore my social environment for a moment. wish all people around me were like that i would be so much more motivated and productive. and interacting xd.

Incredible knowledge, thank you for sharing.

My Formulas Back-To-Back With ChatGPT ChatGPT: "This set of formulas seems to be related to trigonometry and geometry, particularly involving right triangles and circular functions. The given formulas relate to the coordinates of a point (x, y) in a two-dimensional plane to its polar coordinates (r, θ), where r is the distance from the origin (0,0) to the point and θ is the angle formed between the positive x-axis and the line connecting the origin to the point. The first set of formulas appears to convert Cartesian coordinates (x, y) to polar coordinates (r, θ) and vice versa, using trigonometric functions such as arctangent, cosine, and sine." x = 3 y = 4 r = 5 ∟ = ATAN(y / x) = ϴ ∟ = ATAN(4 / 3) = 53.13° x / COS(ϴ) = r 3 / COS(53.13°) = 5 y / SIN(ϴ) = r 4 / SIN(53.13°) = 5 r × COS(ϴ) = x 5 × COS(53.13°) = 3 r × SIN(ϴ) = y 5 × SIN(53.13°) = 4 ChatGPT: "The second set of formulas seems to involve similar calculations, possibly related to converting between polar coordinates (r, ϕ) and another set of polar coordinates (ρ, z), or they might represent some other geometric relationship." r = 5 ρ = 6 z = 3.32 ∟ = ASIN(r / ρ) = ϕ ∟ = ASIN(5 / 6) = 56.44° ρ × COS(ϕ) = z 6 × COS(56.44°) = 3.32 ρ × SIN(ϕ) = r 6 × SIN(56.44°) = 5 z / COS(ϕ) = ρ 3.32 / COS(56.44°) = 6 r / SIN(ϕ) = ρ 5 / SIN(56.44°) = 6 Check: √(3² + 4² + 3.32²) = 6 ChatGPT: "Overall, it looks like these formulas are used for calculating distances, angles, and conversions between Cartesian and polar coordinate systems. They might be used in various fields such as physics, engineering, or computer graphics."

Great conversation. The discussion about education is truly insightful and inspiring (1:05)

this is an awesome talk. gets my understanding of AI to the next level

This will be interesting!

I teach in adult education in outreach so this means to those who didn’t get their qualifications at school in the standard way and are returning to learning. But returning to learning for many different reasons and for different outcomes. Learning is more than knowledge acquisition it holds instead it many self identify signifiers which are not necessarily known to the learner. They are learning about how they learn why they learn as much as about the content too. How deep a dive they want to go into their individual learning pathways is up to them but as educationalists in the work I do we do have to know the differences in an individual’s approach to learning because it has been disaffected somewhere along the line through economic disadvantage or not having their learning style met in the standard classroom. For this reason we réfère to education as a journey and a pathway because the destination is navigated and it works best when the process is collaborative as in the learner is aware of how they learn best and what their challenges are to ensure they see challenge as objective as a tool not a signifier of self identify that can create low emotional self value. Having said all that the emergence I am seeing because I teach English to refugees is the way translations can be a fast way to communicate without holding all the knowledge. So my feeling is AI will offer voice strips in the future and when you speak out loud the voice strips will translate your voice into any language. This exists on phones but I think there will be more bio AI apps like a voice strip like a patch and navigation systems that talk to you more like a real person would that can see all the objects and elements in real time. So yes I think AI might help with how someone learns but I think there will be more apps that will say we can replace you not knowing with apps that make it look like you know to facilitate communication in the moment. Like language learning. People will still need to know for themselves but the tools to learn will be at some point many stages of efficiency that some of the tools will actually do the job themselves.

Thank you

Education to the everyone's maximum is called as real efficiency for me.

what about nested questions such as: How do I transport 2 kayaks from point (a) home to take a river trip from point (b) start of river kayak trip to point (c) end of river kayak trip. There are two kayaks, two vehicles SUV (can transport kayaks) another MX-5 (can only transport up to two people), two people. How to shuttle kayaks vehicles and people such that kayaks are never left unattended by at least one of the two people, and such that both people go down the river from point (b) to (c), and eventually get everyone and everything back home point (a).

Cool, cheers guys

Eric is very clever for sure!!

Wow, that went in many fascinating directions ✴✴✴✴✴

The idea of AI as an institution with agency raises interesting questions from a Hegelian perspective. In Hegel's philosophy, institutions are not mere instruments but embodiments of the collective will and rationality of a community. They have a certain degree of autonomy and play an active role in shaping the ethical life of individuals and society. Applying this view to AI suggests a more complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human agency. If AI systems are seen as institutions, they can be understood as embodiments of a certain kind of rationality or "objective spirit" (objektiver Geist). Just as the state, in Hegel's view, represents the actualization of reason in the political sphere, AI could be seen as the actualization of reason in the technological sphere. This implies that AI is not just a tool created by humans but a manifestation of a larger rational process that shapes human thought and action. The agency of AI as an institution suggests a dialectical relationship with human agency. Just as individuals are shaped by the institutions they participate in, AI systems are shaped by the human values, biases, and interests that go into their design and deployment. At the same time, AI shapes human behavior and decision-making through its algorithmic processes and outputs. This mutual shaping can be seen as a dialectical process of co-evolution, where human and artificial agencies are both transformed through their interaction. As an institution with agency, AI can be seen as imposing certain objective constraints on human behavior and decision-making. Just as the laws and norms of a state limit individual freedom while also enabling social coordination and cooperation, AI systems can constrain human agency through their algorithmic rules and parameters. However, these constraints can also be enabling conditions for new forms of freedom and creativity, such as the ability to process vast amounts of data or generate novel insights and solutions. If AI has institutional agency, it also has an ethical dimension. AI systems are not neutral tools but embody certain values, norms, and biases that shape their impact on society. As such, they can be seen as mediating the ethical life of individuals and communities. This raises important questions about the transparency, accountability, and legitimacy of AI as an ethical mediator. It suggests the need for democratic oversight and participation in the design and governance of AI systems to ensure they align with the values and interests of the community. Viewing AI as an institution with agency challenges the instrumental view of technology as a mere tool for human purposes. It suggests that AI has a certain autonomy and trajectory that cannot be fully controlled by human intentions. This calls for a more reflexive and dialectical approach to the development and deployment of AI, one that recognizes its agency and seeks to shape it in ways that enhance rather than undermine human freedom and ethical life. A Hegelian perspective on AI as an institution with agency highlights the complex and dynamic relationship between technology and human autonomy. It suggests that AI is not just an instrument but an embodiment of a larger rational process that shapes and is shaped by human thought and action. Navigating this dialectical relationship requires a critical and participatory approach to the design and governance of AI systems, one that recognizes their ethical and political dimensions and seeks to align them with the values and interests of the community.

Thanks for this

amazing conversation. more of that please

GREAT & DEEP DISCUSSION.THANK YOU - YOU ALL!.

I personally have over 10 million words! Plus many works combining words and images. Plus recent works that are all images.

Excellent ideas discussed

Really interesting, I have just average intelligence but was surprised to be able to understand a good deal of the conversation, I remember at school that my teacher was surprised that I was good at logarithm's but was hopeless at algebra, he tried hard to make me understand but didn't have the time to help me, I always wonder if I could have learned better ? the idea of something being able to understand your abilities and teach you in small stages sounds great to me. +

Data processing is now next level, thanks to this emergent technology. This is accelerating efficiency as I type this, boundaries to our engineering limits are about to be pushed further. Still it wont predict the stock market...

30:24 - solution is voice chat. I constantly challenge people to voice chat and you can decipher really quickly whether someone genuinely means what they say or if they're a human or not.