What part of the conversation did you find the most compelling?

Eno’s opening remarks are spot on. We credit individuals for work that is done by entire communities.

Varoufakis & Eno... what a delight! Thank you I2 for this discussion.

Free julian Assange..

Telling the truth about bankers and the City of London!

In my opinion it's men and women's Duty to share their creativity with each other. Creativity is a gift from the Kosmos and needs to be spread on Earth.

"Everything is easy to resolve as like an human experience, but humans likes to make it always complicated for the ground reason of turning into an individualistic profit." Ivan Klass

42:00 "Happiness stems from creativity, from doing something creative, something worthy. And if you get some money for that as well, then you're the happiest person on earth. The trouble is that the connection between _getting out of poverty and hard work_ has been broken and the connection between doing something creative and making lots of money has been broken-this is the problem with capitalism."

1:23:38 _Assange’s heroism_ “Use big brothers technology to turn it into a digital mirror and turn it towards big brother so the rest of us can see what big brother is doing.”

Two great minds and generous spirits.

52:04 “The only solution I can see to this in order to turn the robots into humanities slaves rather than allowing them to turn most humans into the slaves of the robots and of the owners of the robots-is to have a situation where a percentage of the shares (we can start with 10% of the shares of corporations with more than 500 employees) go to a sovereign wealth fund. I would like it to be a global one and all the dividends accumulate in there and that becomes the fund from which you disperse (a small initially) universal basic dividend, not income.“

A marvelous video, a great contribution to my understanding of a world I know so little about. Cheers!

The road to good intentions is paved with hell.

Always refreshing to hear Yanis & Brian share their cognitive interpretations.

I am 100% with Varufakis in this interview!!

Two of my favourite people!

I am happy that the internet and this form of social media exists, so that we're able to enjoy such a wonderful exposition of ideas and opinions from such accomplished people. My one disappointment was the outmoded understanding regarding nuclear power. High pressure, water cooled, plutonium reactors (what people associate with _nuclear_) are not safe or efficient but in wide use mainly due to political reasons. Options such as molten salt thorium reactors are safe by design and could satisfy the power needs of the planet into the foreseeable future with costs so low an economic revolution would be inevitable. That's a radical change I'd love to hear these two discuss: the social, economic and political impact of basically free, clean, unlimited power worldwide. The mind boggles...

Right... steel production does not need to be privatized and can operate at a loss forever without hurting anything

GREAT MODERATOR! OMG! The Best Intro ❤❤❤

Great discussion! At 32.55 Varoufakis mentions loans on the asset books of the city London standing at 5 times the country's GDP. Does anyone know what these loans are specifically?

Great guests, thanks.

What’s the use of voting for a person and then hope they will do the right things??? Citizens should vote for each policy change like a jury system that represents the citizens of the area

Very interesting hearing Yanis mention Citizens Assemblys many times. The last time there was a financial crash, Irish version 2008/12, I joined a small civil society org called the 2nd Republic and one the key successes was our drafting of our document 'Citizens Assembly for Political Reform in Ireland'. This was shared with the then Irish government in 2012 and while I would not say that it was because of us that the Constitutional Convention came into being from 2013 onwards but we definitely played a small part in guiding the new government at that time to do something. Repealing the 8th Referendum (female reproductive rights restrictions) and the Equal Marriage Rights referendum (LGBTI marriage rights) came from that journey. So all I'm saying is that Citizens Assemblies as a model can and does work. A copy of our document is available on request. Right now I am in Iraq in complete lockdown because of the COVID19 thing so I have probably more time on my hands than planned and thats why I was watching this video and here we are today. Stay safe and stay healthy folks.

I found Brian Eno after devouring David Bowie's "Low" when I was 14. I Knew someone else had to be responsible for that other worldy sound. Eno should have shared the header with Bowie on the front of the Album but I bought plenty of Eno's albums after that. Eno is the sexiest man alive at any age. Adore Eno. what a mind, what a talent.

Also: take your money out of the bank and put it in a credit union, don't shop at Walmart, don't order from Amazon, shop at local, independent bookstores, record stores and coffee shops, support your local farmer's market, support alternative media that's actually in touch with your community to start.

Yanis is an absolute beast.

Brilliant!!

Love ur channel

Well I have invented energy hardware and a business plan to restore our depleted soils and though that our food will once again be full of minerals. The community of Universities Swedish institutions and individuals steal and work against this. Evrybody are not bad. One older engineer, PhD, said that this energy system would be installed in every building. If this would happen we would have a world hardened against a Solar storm and have restored food to its full mineral content. For Greeks, among others, it would mean you could start to restore your country back to be covered by trees. Having energy driving this change ......But what can one man do? Why do we allow what Richard Werner describes in banking?

Two of the most interesting people

Then there is the chunk off Assets on balance sheets in USA and Europe which is only R&D expenses entered in balance sheet for developing and registering a patent

The evolution of society is always dependent on the intuition and discoveries of mature individuals.

The only point I cannot swallow as made by Mr. Varoufakis, as I have personally lived it, is that of "standing in the shoes" of those who voted for Trump. I am still "wearing the same shoes" as those disenfranchised folks, because I'm one of them. Blue-collar, Midwestern America is where I reside and work. I detested the Idiot Boy when he was flaunting his garish/glutinous lifestyle on any surface or screen which would project it, since I was in high school and beyond. Placing him in the White House was not only the most destructive idea on the planet, to me, yet the most irresponsible and lazy. Those still white-knuckling it as they hang on . . . certainly deserve pity, but not compassion. It is each of our responsibility to put forth the effort we feel necessary to shape our personal and public lives. There is an undercurrent which few bring to light on this topic of displacement, and it is indeed the elephant in the room. Myself and many of my (still) close friends have witnessed the absolute panic which arose when Barack Obama was elected--twice. If nothing else (as I did not vote for him either; full disclosure), he was an excellent filter for what was to come. The only positive thing I will ever have to say about the Trump "reign" is that it slapped me in the face and shoved me into action. Thanks--I needed that. Overall, I appreciate this discussion and will avidly continue to follow both of these outspoken gentleman in the future, ironically using the platform of FB and/or the origin of UKposts videos (among others) to help discount and erode any capitalistic monopolies to the best of my persistent, if not limited ability. #videoshared

Of 'course we should "own our own data". Google and other tech companies should be paying us for our activity.

Interesting discussions. One small issue is that you are trying to solve economic problems that money-based capitalist system inherently carries with it, using another money-based system like socialist economy or publicly owned money and wealth system of economy; hence we will still end up with money-based social problems. It is time to start inventing an economy system without money as its main axis. Have you thought about Jacques Fresco's Resource-Based Economy? I suggest we should explore other non-money based systems.

Wished they had fixed the microphone on Yanis.

only 8000 views ? needs to be 80 million at least !

"but only found when searched on the midside" what does it mean >_> ???

The House of Lords everywhere

Hmm. There are two 'Through The Keyhole' Television programs worth mentioning here. One has a British host and the other has an American host, neither of which are Canadian citizens. So, that 'strangled accent' was American or British!

Great discussion, poor mic placement.😉

Whether you agree with the two of them fully, almost fully, or not, it's clear that humanity needs to get its shit together and do a lot better for the both the welfare of the species and the planet as a whole. Global capitalism is for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many.

Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. Abraham Lincoln

Unfortunately, when checking Diem’s movement, found that ultimately there was a power structure which did not match its ideology... to keeps this simple. As a result I could not or at least deferred lending my name to Yanis Varoufakis’s movement.

"Keep it short"....goes on for 15 mins before getting to their question

We are talking about the absolute criticality of the situation. The system will face a "revolution" in which everyone will have the same "weapons" in an "unabridged" conflict of interests. This is the current major problem for the "establishment". We are no longer talking about a "Swiss" Democracy, which in its regularity solves its problems with harmless referendums. Here we are talking about an instant "revolution" where the masses will " compete" with referendums. We are talking about masses, which are led to conflict and are legally "armed" by the establishment itself. Not even the security forces won't be able to be used by the ones in power in the event of their overthrow. They will find them in front of them if they won't respect the outcome of the "revolution". A global referendum is now within reach. World War III may not be possible, but a World Referendum - "conflict" can happen at any time. The conflict of cultures is inevitable. The clash of their cultural models in particular. Mankind has to decide its course ... Will we become human beings or remain consumer animals? ... Will we become citizens or remain customers? ... Will we live in a free society or insist on a free market? Sooner or later, the question that terrifies the usurpers will soon be brought to mankind. New World Order ... or ... Age of Aquarius? Bankers ... or ... Greek Philosophers? Ποιος είναι ο εχθρός τής μονεταριστικής Νέας Τάξης; ...Ο ελληνισμός ...Ο αυτοκρατορικός ελληνισμός. Ο εχθρός των τοκογλυφικών ΚΤΗΝΩΝ είναι οι φιλόσοφοι ΑΝΘΡΩΠΟΙ. Ο εχθρός τής "βραχυκυκλωμένης" αγγλοσαξονικής Democracy είναι η ελληνική Δημοκρατία. Ο εχθρός τής σταλινοναζιστικής "συμμορίας" των ανίκανων είναι η ελληνική ατομική Αριστεία, όπως την έχει "δώσει" ο Όμηρος σε όλες τις γενιές των Ελλήνων ...Από το Αιέν κλέβειν να πάμε στο Αιέν ΑΡΙΣΤΕΥΕΙΝ. Η σύγκρουση των Κόσμων είναι αναπόφευκτη. Η σύγκρουση των πολιτισμικών μοντέλων τους συγκεκριμένα. Η ανθρωπότητα θα πρέπει να αποφασίσει για την πορεία της ...Θα γίνουμε άνθρωποι ή θα παραμείνουμε καταναλωτικά ζώα; ...Θα γίνουμε πολίτες ή θα παραμείνουμε πελάτες; ...Θα ζούμε σε μια ελεύθερη κοινωνία ή θα επιμείνουμε στην ελεύθερη αγορά; Αργά ή γρήγορα θα τεθεί στην ανθρωπότητα το ερώτημα εκείνο, το οποίο τρομοκρατεί τους τοκογλύφους της Νέας Τάξης. Νέα Τάξη ...ή... Εποχή του Υδροχόου; Τραπεζίτες ...ή ...Έλληνες Φιλόσοφοι; facebook.com/%CE%9A%CE%AF%CE%BD%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%B1-%CE%B3%CE%B9%CE%B1-%CF%84%CE%B7%CE%BD-%CF%80%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%B3%CE%BC%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE-%CE%B4%CE%B7%CE%BC%CE%BF%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%84%CE%AF%CE%B1-577906699087361/?hc_location=ufi

Make the wages paid to the employees assets then through proper cost accounting transfer the value of the output of the employee to the cost of products or service provided. A variation of Activity Based costing can be used and with technology of today can be done

Modern thought is too much in love with itself. We need to become simpler and have reverence for God, Nature and our humanity.

Brian Eno Great!!

1:10 onwards. The NFL example was something to think about.

If Brian's theory is only meaning about the alchemistic fusion of dualism and entangiblement of opressional apparatus of State, I no suprised that he doing it actually with own brother, Roger.

Father Brian Eno!

Yanis, please, research THORIUM reactors. Non high pressure built to scale reactors that could be financed by regional states and cities. Cleaner and safer that can use current waste and produces manageable amounts

Yanis has just explained to me why a hot water bottle at BOOTS CHEMIST Swiss Cottage cost four times as much as an equally good one at a general store a few yards further down the parade. 🤔 (Green Fire UK) 🌈🦉

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BRian Eno makes a good argument for copyright reform. The COMMUNITY is a part owner of art and ideas because they are necessarily part creators, as Eno suspects.

KKR owns Arnott's biscuits. The iconic Aussie brand is actually American.

I would love to see a 'Forum of future Economics', doing a roadshow around Europe.... with Yanis Varoufakis, Charles Eisenstein ~ (Sacred Economics), Ben Dyson ~ (Positive Money) Bernd Hückstädt ~ ( Gradido) Anand Giridharadas ~ ..... Using the inspired vision of these (and others), could we create a truly abundant and sustainable economy. * Certainly, a form of Direct Democracy is the key to solving the impossible-to-solve problems that are part and parcel of Representative Democracy (which is way past its sell-by date) along with the over-administered EU...and the banking industry. I have no doubt that Direct Democracy is the next step in our political evolution.

Any one want to put in a pledge to invest in a restart of miso the fermented food product manufacture in the UK

Yanis Varoufakis warning about ''inverted nationalism" as a kind of left wing national self loathing is absolute on point. Hating your own country is as flawed as believing in the superiority of your own country. When Eno later says "WE are the real criminals in this", Varoufakis corrects him. WE should not be engaging in collective guilt.

It will only get worse for most people. The rich are not listening to reason. We must start setting up the guillotines. Vive la Révolution! Vive l’ Égalité! Vive la Liberté! Vive la Qualité de vie!

Do you know the definition of the word apartheid it’s a Afrikaans word for separate development the same as what Europe have of different cultures with different languages and history

Apartheid is as neutral as the air we breath as far as culture is concerned but evil as far as access to economy is concerned. Very important to see the difference ; everybody has the innate right to choose who they want to socialize with or not. This is an inalienable right that does not need to be defended.

Yes we newed change especially Political change and dull on investigations in to all MPs.

5:15 "If you take 100% iron, that's something that's brittle, heavy and so on. If you add 4% of carbon to it, you get something called steel." This makes me cringe. Pure iron is soft and formable, not at all brittle. Carbon steel contains 0.005% to 2.14% carbon and is generally harder and more brittle the more carbon it contains (heat treatment also plays a crucial role). Adding 4% will not result in steel, but in white cast iron, which is very hard and brittle. 4% is much more carbon than is soluble in the iron during solidification, leading to precipitation of coarse iron-carbide.

Eno- Music: Right Right Right

Money is created privately, but value is created by the community. Printig money to fight inflation is a devestating situation that harm people horribly. Use your brain and understand that creating money has no sense, only haveing a dynamic structure currency we will realise the harm done to the values we all should try to protect.

Julian Assange 1:22:00

I thought the LFTR MSR could burn Nuclear waste along with Thorium.

As far as economics are concerned, just don't accept the law of the holy sea

Well, I got 20 minutes in before I lost the will to live. What exactly is radical here ?? Though I have to say Toby Young and Vinnie Jones have changed.

And Jeremy did go .

"Stuart Russell - Human Combatible."

In order to fix the world, we must buy the world..

The only I hear in this..is a lot of symptoms on the problem that most countries don´t have a real democratic system ( like the one they have in Switzerland) were elit, politic and administration are forced to follow and protect the individuals choise´s, right´s and asset´s...instead of be a corrupt superior cancer on them….

Our Marshall Hydrothermal Recovery System could provide base-load sustainable electricity to the world and this could support wind, solar, and other renewables.

Let's free the world of the egotists.

Eno is spot on about nuclear energy.

3:40 of preliminary bumph by the woman. Then I skipped through, and kept finding she was the one talking. Clicked away.

When people use analogies like “sloshing around” to describe money were all being mislead as to what money is, does and its very nature. Money is numbers. Numbers dont slosh like water, they dont pile up like stuff or things, numbers are concepts or ideas (like our names) which exist as mental categories but not in physical reality. Numbers dont weigh anything, they dont take up space, they are not subject to the laws of physics only the laws of mathematics. Therefore physical analogies mislead us as to what money is and where it ‘exists’.

Eno is not a metallurgist. 5:14 "If you take iron, 100% iron you have iron, brittle heavy and so on. If you add 4% of carbon you get something called steel , and that is a quite different material" 4% carbon would be quite a brittle cast iron. Steel contains less than 2.1% carbon: some steels much less than that. Steel is made by removing carbon. 100% would have excellent mechanical properties, but is expensive to make. It is a minor point, but it makes it difficult to take him seriously, if he starts with such a muddled and wrong statement. (Did he mean take pig iron and reduce the amount of carbon in it?)

Knowing most of the ideas of Yanis, I wonder how he resists to manifest determinism.

Discuția se desfășura cand in China începea epidemia. ce Intelligence are BBC dacă vorbesc despre funie in casa spânzuratului?

most poor people (who dont speak any english) will never get to watch this, less even understand it or worse agree with these folks who take dozens and dozens of flights every year... What part of the conversation was actually useful .. highly debatable itself...

Yeah, that accent change was quite peculiar. Why? American accent becoming Aussie-English accent....why? WHY?

Robinson Crusoe does recognize the uselessness of money.

there are way's to fix the current mayhem however one thing is the know how & another is the doctor that will put the medicine into practice 🍾🍾 find the doctor & the medicine is already here🎨🖼 even since the 1900 century.🤔🤗 the path of realty is a 🎡🎠 a wheel that turns & stays fix 🤔

Paraphrase Brian, "...Credit & reward the individual, rather than the many..." I agree Brian, society loves using the individual as a meta tag, both positive & negative... Look at the Noble prize allocation these last 20 years, they no longer go to individuals, times... they are changing. I’m closer to Brian than Yanis, I favour Data over Human instinct, Democracy is not our saviour, I am though onboard with the engagement of the people & the socialist concept of ‘commons’, I would favour fact (data) over belief (instinct). Data before Democracy. Responsibility before Freedom. Yanis you still have humanity at the centre of your maths, the universe lives there, we come in at a higher subservient level.. You may want to start by relabelling your ‘Green Initiative’, ‘Universal Initiative’ is in more appropriate, greater understanding of the universe is the real driver, the climate change element to this restructuring is a subset & at best 30% of the driving force.

Democracy in Athens was started largely thanks to the philosopher and politician Pericles. He dominated Athenian politics and ruled by wise influence and negotiation. Pericles believed that all citizens should partake in government and was the first to offer a stipend to men in office. This action allowed any citizen to be involved, regardless of their economic standing. Democracy in Athens was a direct democracy. In a direct democracy the people decide on the policy initiatives directly. The major decisions of the state were made by general assemblies in which all citizens could participate. To call today’s democratic system democracies is silly. No participation by citizens in decisions just by business and rich people and organisations so it should be renamed to reflect what a system should be called that’s for business the rich people and organisations that buy politicians. I think it’s what was in place before democracy was proposed by philosophers. Think of the jury system. Citizens can make decisions on criminals’ charges but not on policies and legislation that effects their lives and futures?????

All and all not so radical....Timid justification for UBI, no mention of what money is how its created, nothing about localization and permaculture, public banks...Eno’s strange attraction for nuclear energy?

ofc brian eno...

At 1 :12 37. Yanis wants to stop individual from indulging in self helps. So we just listen to Eno and his ideas only ?😱

54:07 Varoufakis seems to want to bring "market communism" about first and then start the green transition... I fear this is far too late for the green transition, that should happen asap.

The road to hell was paved with good intentions.

Yanis ...Take a long walk!

the national football league .... no joke . What is going on here with the Taylor Swift phenomenon , the actor is taller and blonder than Trump , and will have more influence over the vote - As always , truly enjoy listening in to the thinking of this man's mind . Date Feb 3 2024

How sad, the British election of 12th Dec 2019, has made this video irrelevant .

Demurrage currencies will not work. Low earners already spend all their income, so no gain there. Rich people will just transfer their wealth into physical assets, and won't sit in cash, so no gain there. Demurrage currencies will just squeeze the hell out of whatever is left of the middle class - those that earn enough to have some savings, but can't afford to buy bars of gold, overpriced art, or property portfolios.

I prefer to make caricatutures of todays english politicians with the pre revolutionary germanized french nobility...

A real meeting of the mind.