You should use a SMALLER SUBWOOFER! 5 Reasons WHY!
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Рік томуWhen you install an aftermarket subwoofer into a car audio system it is imperative to choose the right size. Too large a subwoofer can result in poor bass reproduction, or it may flat out not fit. In this video we discuss considerations for why you may want to choose a smaller subwoofer for your car audio system!
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@bournelucid Рік тому
I like big subs and i cannot lie
@phrogman4654 Рік тому
You other brothers can't deny
@agma3996 Рік тому
Same
@jcsalas323 Рік тому
😂
@Terranwilliamson1745 Рік тому
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe lol XD😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mrjv750li Рік тому
You like the 12in ;)
@mitchblackmore5230 5 місяців тому
Sorry, this vid just came up in my timeline. 35ish years ago, I was at a 'car stereo competition' as a spectator. There was a guy with a regular two seat cab pick up truck. In the narrow space between the back wall of the cab and the back of the seats, there was a speaker box. The top couldn't have been more than 6"s wide. On the top were 6-8 tiny little 4" speakers poking out. To this day, I can't for the life of me understand how those little speakers produce sooooo much bass! This truck absolutely thumped!!!
@stephanarizona9094 Рік тому
The most underrated subwoofer is a 8", I have had everything under the sun, 4-15's, 4-12's, 2-15's, 2-12's, 1-12, some different 10" setups, but now for a beautiful well balanced sound and still good bass, I would take two high quality 8's!
@kingwillie206 Рік тому
It all depends on the design of the subs and your personal taste. Larger subs in smaller sealed boxes under high power will change your mind. I just heard 4 12s in a small sealed box powered by a 5k amp and I was stunned.
@CarsandCats Рік тому
Yes. It's far easier to control the cone at 8" than it is at 12".
@dobermanownerforlife3902 Рік тому
(2) Memphis MOJO mini 8" Nice and punchy for double bass.
@kingwillie206 Рік тому
@@CarsandCats - It is not. You aren’t taking into consideration the material, the weight, the xmax, servo vs non servo, sealed vs non sealed, box design and other factors. Too many of you are just repeating what you you heard others say.
@JJ_ExMachina Рік тому
Ran two 8" and four 6.5" Sundown Audio Subwoofers in my vehicle and was blown away with how much bass extension I was able to get without loosing my entire cargo capacity. Small hatchback vehicles are very useful as long as you are filling the hatch full of subwoofer box. I was able to stuff the 6 subs in each corner, each in their own sealed boxes. Ran them on a single two channel amp... all said an done, still had full access to the cargo area, and got a huge amount of bass when compared to the stock system sound.
@michaelrodgers6559 Рік тому
I've been a huge fan of 10s for years now. My last setup had two 10" drivers and two 10" passive radiators... sounded amazing for just about everything I listened to, and fit behind the rear seat in my crew cab truck.
@david029014 Рік тому
what subwoofer did you use? i love subwoofers with passive radiators, running 1 now, but want to run 2 subwoofers
@michaelculhane7227 Рік тому
The box is too big for a 12". 8" don't produce enough bass. 10's are perfect.
@BobbyDeniroX 11 місяців тому
@@michaelculhane7227 What brand you using and model
@watchingitallhere 10 місяців тому
Sounds legit!
@CristianZamora 8 місяців тому
That setup would fry listening to Dark Side of the Moon....
@1badsj 9 місяців тому
Mark described surface area limitations which was the biggest factor for my application. I have been running (4) 10" subs free air mounted SECURELY in my rear package shelf. I get more surface area than (2) 12s and I still have 90% of my trunk available for storage. I have been running this configuration in the same car for over 20 years!
@majicogarcia8417 3 місяці тому
Yep and your 4 tens still dont play as deep as the 2 twelves.
@_leymo 2 місяці тому
@@majicogarcia8417 YeP aNd YoUr TwO tWeLvEs StIlL dOnT pLaY aS dEeP aS a SiNgLe FiFtEeN stfu please? you are most likely not even allowed to drive a car legally...
@PANTYEATR1 Рік тому
Many years ago i owned a 2000 Volvo C70 hard top. Once i saw how the 12 speaker sound system was (installed from the factory) i stopped buying big subs. The Volvo used a components layout using 8"subs with a tweeter throughout the car totaling 12 speakers. It sounded great. I follow this layout with any car i make for myself. You get big sound and you still have practical storage space in the truck and thought the vehicle.
@HardCold-Alquan Рік тому
You make your own cars?
@PANTYEATR1 Рік тому
@@HardCold-Alquan correction...modify
@JaimeCarlosCamacho Рік тому
Do you have any link with a video showcasing a car being modified with that kind of sound system please? Thanks!
@PANTYEATR1 11 місяців тому
@@JaimeCarlosCamacho i don't know a video of link showing how Volvo laid out their system, but maybe you can Google search the sound system of a factory 2000 C70 coupe.
@StupidBlokeStupidVideos 11 місяців тому
I used to have a V70 t5 back in the day. It had 4x12 dual coil subs. 3 off a mono bock in series parallel at 2.66 for lows and one off a different amp for slightly higher tones. I just replaced the door speakers for standard size but decent brand powered off the pioneer head unit, and then added a couple of amped boxed 6x9 on the mdf shelf I made. It sounded alright, but I effectively took a practical car built to take a wardrobe in the back and by the time I was done you couldn’t fit a box of jonnys in it. Good times, I wish I was a teenager again.
@MrDopey32 Рік тому
12's are always my number one, but 10's are great too. I've never really had much good luck with anything bigger, but I've also never had a big air space. Good breakdown Mark!
@AllEyezOnRod Рік тому
Me too, however I’ve been noticing JL audio with 13’s now.
@thomasstott527 Рік тому
@Rodney Noel 12 is your best all around sounding speaker.. it proven... but JL has taken it a step further with there 13.5... drops low like a 15... but the sound quality is amazing...
@dubb9020 Рік тому
@@thomasstott527 not for techno , house or any dance music. 12s are very boomy
@thomasstott527 Рік тому
@dubb 100 percent... if you read the comment I wrote directly under this one it says.. you should choose a sub woofer that better suits the music you listen to....
@kingwillie206 Рік тому
@@dubb9020 - They are not. It depends on the speaker and the enclosure.
@art330 10 місяців тому
Absolutely agree, I ran 2 (12s) the 1st time my sound was done and it definitely hit hard but left a bit to be desired at lower volume levels. Decided to change things up and swapped to 3 (10s) instead and the difference was absolutely insane. Not only because I was able to separate and place the speakers throughout my truck but the actual functionality and sound was much better.
@CristianZamora 8 місяців тому
Needed better equipment... my two 15" Rockford Fosgates sounded crisper than any multi small woofer setup...
@ThisGuyDrives 8 місяців тому
yea and 3 12's would've sounded better than 2 12's. You might've went down to 10's, but you added a sub, so it should sound better. I have a Sundown X15 in my Camaro that hits hard. Yet, the 2 Sundown U12's in my 4 Runner hit harder. 2 good subs will almost always be better than 1. Just like 3 will be better than 2. Even if they are smaller subs.
@killingtime669 5 місяців тому
It's because you added 8 inches of Cone area to push the air harder
@CristianZamora 5 місяців тому
You didn't have enough amp or it was incorrectly tuned... THERE IS NO SYSTEM with 10s gonna sound better than a properly tuned 15 or 18 ... this fella can't even do math...
@TheChrisplayer94 Рік тому
I've got an JL Audio 10W1V3 in a 17l closed box over years powered on a 420W rms class d amp and i love this little beast so much!
@keganwallace8753 Рік тому
I'm in a 08 extended cab F150 running a single 10" Image Dynamic sub in a down fire truck box on true 400 watts at 2ohm from an old Alpine mono block amplifier. I enjoy the sound from the setup 👍🏻👍🏻
@SpaceraverDK 11 місяців тому
One thing extra to consider is also the total trunk volume, sure you can fit a 15" in the trunk if you have the height, but if there's no way for the air to move to the passenger cabin you are simply moving outside vents or trying to move the rear shelf if that is fully enclosed.
@Hammerback972 7 місяців тому
Block the flaps behind bumper corners off with foam, prepare to damage trunk latch tho. U get pressure in the cabin. In a carolla anyway. Windshield flex, caused leaks, metal on car body truck literally ripped, roof and back window flex 1/2" on 2 cheap 12's and a low budget Class D with a in dash epicenter Edit: wait? One of my 12s is 60 lbs? 15 pound 12" sub? Are we buying garbage from wal mart?
@johnbooker7153 3 місяці тому
Infinite baffle
@reptilianrascal1125 Рік тому
I just did the audio system in my brz. Installed a rectangular, all in 1 under seat sub on the back of the rear seat (brz has very limited space). I wasn't sure how it was going to perform but it actually kicks really nicely. The sound is clean and gives more than enough of a kick for my taste. I was pleasantly surprised at how good a performance that little sub can do
@TheSurfRyder Рік тому
Always loved a tri plate of tens as close as you can get them together. Great depth and very tight kick drum. Personally I like the versatility of multi tens.
@johnnycorn7225 Рік тому
I'm 48 years old and I have heard and Biltmore systems and I can count and I've came to the same conclusion. Multi tens can't be beat for so many reasons.
@sloppy1hundred417 Рік тому
Glad to see you still putting out quality content. 🐐
@girthquake9655 Рік тому
18"s changed my life it would be awful to go back.
@thomasnelson213 4 місяці тому
Same here. You feel the music even at low volumes.
@alfredo5189 Місяць тому
@@thomasnelson213 I'm kinda new to this stuff, but for my taste I'd say my 12" 400w rms sub sealed hits hard too, even at low volumes... idk if thats just me or my car but I love it
@benjafarber1793 Місяць тому
As a beat maker, there’s a reason why most club PA subs are 18”. The resonant peak frequency is around 50Hz. Most kicks are tuned around that frequency +\- 10Hz Larger diameter speakers can peak at lower frequencies. Period. Human hearing doesn’t get much below 20Hz tho. But as far as moving air, sure you can feel it. Smaller subs w/ baffling will have a shorter decay/tighter response though. So if you listen to drum n bass or metal, then yeah, maybe an array of 10”s would be better for you. There’s no right or wrong- just application-like the guy says
@phillipbartlett1819 Рік тому
In the mid 90's I worked for a shop and I built my 83 t-bird into a 150 watt class car. I had 8 kicker 8" in a isobaric box. It was a 4 chamber box each .5cuft. it not only hit hard and loud but dropped low. I was running a 25 hcca on the subs and a 100 hcca on my Polk components and hart 6" midbases. Audio control for smoothing and a clarion head unit with the DSP unit. It showed what small subs were able to do. I thought it was the best sounding car I ever owned.
@VioletGiraffe 7 місяців тому
I have a single 8" in a closed box (my preference back in the day because I used to think ported designs sound boomy and muddy). It's a mid-size sedan and the sub is in the trunk. With ~300W of amplification it's perfectly capable of volume that's uncomfortable, i. e. more than I need, and digs deep (down to 24 Hz at least) with my DSP settings. It's not perfect and I want to try something else, but it's very good, and for the price - it's awesome!
@-OokySpooky- 3 місяці тому
I made a super simple short flat underseat box with 4 8s for my 87 C10 and holy moly is it a monster. I honestly have never seriously driven around with it set to max for anything other than messing around.
@Punkinspapa 11 місяців тому
I use an 8 inch Alpine Type R in a Skar tube enclosure in my truck. Setup is amazing.
@zachowens1412 Рік тому
I built a system for My 2010 Chevy Colorado crew cab. Everywhere I looked people were building boxes to sit in the seat or on the floor between the rear seat and front seats or there was a premade box to fit two 10” but the rear seat needed to be raised an inch or 2. I wanted something that fit under the seat without lifting it. I custom built a box and I put two kicker 8” L7T in it and they both have the minimum air space (I have a better box in the works that allows for more air space and uses more of the available room). I have them powered by a 600watt alpine amp and I have to say they can make my ears hurt. I have never used kicker subs before and I have never used 8” subs before and I have to say I’m extremely happy with my decision to use these.
@magnumcipher4971 7 місяців тому
I ran (6) 8W6's in several different applications back some years ago. Great performance in 6 cubic feet on 1,250 watts or so.
@savvy6995 Рік тому
I like 12's and my setup now is a NVX V2 12" with a Belva 3000 watt amplifier, also a NVX Bass Reconstruction processor. It actually sound alot better than i expected and the box is not ported.
@anthonyo9103 Рік тому
Can you give examples of what a system goals should include in it? Thanks for all your great videos, I've learned so much.
@patricknbrooks11 8 місяців тому
I would like to experiment with every subwoofer size/system to my liking 15s are by far my favorite I’m working on some 8s currently though. I’ve heard plenty of 12 set ups all impressive. I honestly feel like this is all just an enclosure debate for all of these along with cone area.
@thabg007 Рік тому
Ive been using dual 10 inch sub setup since 1999, last year i considered switching to dual 12 inch subs but changed my mind, currently dual shallow subs ive had since 2011
@jamessettles6485 5 місяців тому
Got a good deal recently from a friend on a 8 inch sundown in a custom ported box tuned to 35hz and bought a walmart power acoustik amp. It has the cleanest bass I've ever heard from any sub I've ever had even cranked to high volume 85-90% and has no distortion what so ever. I highly recommend sundown, little on the expensive side but totally worth it.
@pureblood3388 Рік тому
The JL 8w1 i have in my wagon is awesome! Sealed box and power to spec. Mega bass for the family truckster.
@JonathanDFielding Рік тому
By far, the best sounding tiny sub is the JL Audio 8w3 in their micro sub ported box. My wife has this on her Outback and it's very impressive. Add the cabin gain and we easily get down to 30Hz wO huge loss. It sounds amazing and only needs 250W For me, I've got the JLA 10W7AE + JLA HD750/1 in their sealed box
@smiththers2 10 місяців тому
i have the tiny 8w3 ported enclosure with a dayton woofer and it blows my mind how well it sounds, even in an RX7 convertible. def some magic in that port!
@MotoAtheist 8 місяців тому
Subwoofers should pretty much all sound the same when played within specs unless there is a defect in them. Put 10 different quality sub brands behind a curtain, all else (size, box, power, etc) being equal, you'd never guess which one was playing. 40hz is 40hz, 30hz is 30hz, so on and so on. So how can subs sound different? The only difference is loudness due to box design, location in vehicle and power used. If a subwoofer is not performing properly, there is something wrong. Either improper box size, improper location or incorrect power, which can include too little or too much, or a defect. Can't leave out crap brands, of course, but even many of those cheapos will function and sound great when played within their true proper specs, not the glorified specs.
@gabrielgalaxygh 8 місяців тому
I have two 8w3 in a under seat box in my truck and man they hit hard
@smiIingman 9 хвилин тому
I went the super amateur route and bought one of those chinese 8" under-seat subwoofers that come with an installed amp and man i was insanely surprised at how good it sounds. I currently have it in the passenger footwell but im going to move it to the trunk to get a more balanced experience since it's a tad too boomy on my right ear.
@Jodyjoe8816 Рік тому
Currently pushing a DD 8" love how good it sounds and how hard it hits
@Jodyjoe8816 10 місяців тому
What are you pushing it with??
@tundras4ever552 Рік тому
I remember a buddy of mine had a small 10” and it hit so hard haha and sounded fantastic I think it was a JL but I don’t exactly remember . Was very impressed with it only running like 500 watts too
@jonathonchavez Рік тому
It was probably a Alpine Type R! Those 10s slam so hard on 500w
@JonathanDFielding Рік тому
JL Audio 10W3s or W6s sound amazing and hit hard too
@Gizmetti Рік тому
I love my two Kicker 10's. They're loud as hell and very responsive as I listen to heavier fast paced metal mostly.
@dennisandrews6976 7 місяців тому
Nice , instructional videos. I have 2023 Santa fe Xrt. This model does not come with a factory subwoofer. I want to add a 8 inch sub in the rear where the stock sub should be. How would i do this?
@GladiatorJT20 7 місяців тому
So what to you recommend on a Jeep gladiator 6.5’ or 8’ subwoofers 2 or 4 subwoofers ?
@UncleMichaelable 5 місяців тому
I’ve got 1 15” kicker comp q in my expedition, it’s perfect.
@fbtippmann Рік тому
Excellent information, and excellent presentation! Thanks!
@davevan9150 Рік тому
I replaced a dual 12 ported premade kicker box with a homemade sealed single 8, cause I'm old now. I enjoy the better frequency response and only vibrates half the interior panels.
@GNelson1989 Рік тому
I run two skar 6.5 inch subs in my truck because the boxes fit behind my rear seat and it sounds great!
@phantomdiesel8032 Місяць тому
I have a Rockford fosgate p300 8p 8 inch 350w combo unit that I installed myself and it’s a nice thumper with a decent knob and the sub is held down with a really strong Velcro
@machoman2929 Рік тому
Ran a few 10" sub setups. 10w7 on jl audio 500/1v2. 2 10w7 on jl audio 1000/1v2. 3 10w6 on a jl audio 1200/1. All sounded amazing tuned to 33hz.
@SKISER83 Рік тому
My 2021 civic.. has 6 10 inch phoenix gold sx series subs [sealed], 2 phoenix gold 1200.1 sx series amps, and 4 xs power batteries. Civics booty a little sagging 😅 and yes still stock alt..😢 thanks for the uploads always watching
@mikehonda7934 Рік тому
Hey Mark! I see you have quite a gap around that 13w7. I can see a nice press fit ring to lock around the clamp ring, and a custom grill over the sub. But that's my mind at work.
@chrisw9451 9 місяців тому
Multiple kicker square 8s have always been my go to.
@HvyMetal4Ever 6 місяців тому
I have ran 10's for years. I listen to a wide range of music, and have never felt left wanton for anything more. From Kanye to Meshuggah they gave me the sound I was after. In my last install (2014 F-150 SCREW) I ran a pair of JL 10w0-4 in a downfire and ported box. It gave me all that great low end, without washing out the mids and highs. Everything was ran on a 5 channel amp (XD700/5v2). I have since sold that truck, but will be putting the same amp, subs and speakers in my new truck.
@dilldowschwagginz2674 10 місяців тому
I usually go with a single 10 (or even a quality 8") for a few reasons... 1) I'm not 18 years old anymore, 2) a single 10 with a good amp sounds good enough for me and 3) I'm not interested in attracting enough attention that results in my windows being smashed in the middle of the night. Also, I was bumping comp 12's in the late 90's in a custom BOX (in a CRX) so it's interesting to me that everyone is now calling them "enclosures ". Lol. It's literally a Box
@OxBlitzkriegxO 4 місяці тому
they were called enclosures 30 years ago too.
@jessevargas3289 3 місяці тому
the correct term is bass reflex enclosure. It's not just a box, you need to research port tuning and box rise
@OxBlitzkriegxO 3 місяці тому
@@jessevargas3289 im well aware, dont "ackshually" me. im just telling you a truth.
@bendmacmanufacturing2744 Рік тому
I've always liked 8s or 10s smaller is also more responsive
@Mickparrysstepdad Рік тому
That's a myth. It depends on the weight of the cone combined with the magnet strength.
@hom2fu Рік тому
and some people like 6.5 because punchy bass/ dynamic of music. less weight from cone. i could never understand until recently
@kaedeschulz5422 Рік тому
With the Volume it really depends and looking at the TSP is the best way to determine that best. Some 8s use as much volume as some 12s Weight also depends the 6,5 in my DIY studio monitors is as heavy as the 12inch in my bass guitar amp.
@Talamy100 9 місяців тому
What subs would you put on a 2006 mustang gt convertible? And how many can I fit in the trunk?? I currently have 1) 12 in in a slot ported box on a 3000 watt amp (It's ok but want more bass) gain over 3/4 way up
@kellyduddridge4632 11 місяців тому
Hey Mark, big fan, love your videos and even thinking about looking at your box designs for the back of my 2021 Subaru Crosstrek. Question though... at 5 minutes and 21 seconds of this video, did you say "the more heavy it is!"? he he he we call that "heavier" sir.. ;) Sorry, had too, its 4am and I am watching your videos, cut me some slack!
@juanviviers4035 9 місяців тому
Mark is a 8inch sub good for a corsa lite and do you have any build plans for side mount sub box
@thaddeusfromsonar Рік тому
i’ve got a single shallow 10 in a sealed downturned enclosure. it’s unbelievably tight for metal kicks and it still pushes enough bass to make 808s sound even.
@siangmingalexlau8220 Рік тому
I agree totally. A 10-inch is very versatile. Mine is a forward-firing sealed 10-inch in my bedroom driven by a monoblock running from a 12-V power supply, and I have the exact same setup for my living room. And they sound fine even at low listening volumes.
@MrROTD 2 місяці тому
I'm an audio enthusiast, built some of my own sub boxes for my cars, I also built many stereo speakers, the best set up I ever built is 6X4 inch full range drivers in a a tower config, listeneing to this vid right now on them. Many small driver in a line makes the bass go lower because it mimics the size variable by which I mean it makes a virtually 30 inch woofer sound while being responsive at the same time with no crossover or comb filtering problems.
@jordanmesa8820 7 місяців тому
sir can we apply this car setup to a P.A. system?
@acunae9094 8 місяців тому
I can vouch for this, I have 2 12” MTX subs in my truck and they sound pretty crappy, I want to get smaller subs to see if I get a better response. Just don’t know if I should go with 8’s or 10’s as I’m trying to go for a deeper bass.
@HvyMetal4Ever 6 місяців тому
FWIW I ran 2 JL 10W0-4 in my F-150 in a downfire ported box. And it sounded perfect (to me) I had everything running on a 5 channel amp, and not one thing over powered the other. If you have the space and money, the 10w3 is a fantastic sub. Definitely needs more power, but a damn good sound.
@VibnWavez 5 місяців тому
I did always want to build one of those awesome miniature horn-loaded subs that use like 2 5" drivers or something like that
@valherustinger7848 10 місяців тому
I had 2 x 15inch subs in a hatchback in the 90s. One in the boot, one on the back seat and the music sounded Deep, Immersive and super clear with 6 mid range speakers running on another amp. Used to set off building alarms in the cbd lol. I hate smaller subs because I hate punch bass as it hurts my ears when song is turned up. I like super low frequencies so I can feel the song.
@Atok595 6 місяців тому
I have owned hundreds of subwoofers and the best cheap system I had was with 4-10 inch punch subs powered with an Alpine V12. I started with two, then moved to three and four. I compared them on the same amp with a single 12 inch JL W6, two 12in kicker golds and a 15 inch SoundStream 160. The 15 was almost louder but the 4 cheap 10’s dominated. These days I just have an 8inch punch sub in a 35hz ported box.
@MeikoTerwelp 8 місяців тому
I have a twenty eleven acura m d x , what would you recommend for subway for application...
@gabrielgalaxygh Рік тому
I had 12s and 10s my whole life but got a pair of jl 8w3s and man I've never went back. Even bought another set for my truck
@lloydhudson9032 8 місяців тому
I remember a coworker of mine decades ago had 2 8's in a Ford Ranger. Man, you could of sworn he had at least 2 10"s in there the way those subs hit, I was definitely impressed.
@DJDOUBLE077 Рік тому
Im partial to the single 12 setup because of my listening preference...but the box size is a factor and 10s do sound more accurate.
@BlueTegu360 Рік тому
Cone area and air space are why I run 3 10s sealed instead of 2 12s ported in the daily. Still leaves me with 2/3 of my trunk space for groceries.
@jimnattress4036 Місяць тому
Thank u for this information !
@beatnik1855 Рік тому
10w7 is my favorite sub ever. Perfectly small and good luck powering 4 of them in a suv. They suck up hundreds of amps. Good vid
@aaronmcneal1698 8 місяців тому
I love my 2 10s but after adding a 12" in the mix, i really heard the lows that i was missing.
@smiththers2 10 місяців тому
been running a triple 10 box for the last 3 years, and i dont know if i could use something else now since i have really enjoyed how versatile this setup can be with the right drivers and amp. some eq may be needed for the super lows in a sealed box but its not too bad, and you get to keep all the snappy bass of the smaller speakers. dont try to tell me that big large speakers can have snap, i can assure you the 12w7 does not. smaller + more of them = better.
@MotoAtheist 8 місяців тому
Smaller + more does not always equal better, just more appropriate for your particular needs is all. Do you honestly think high end speaker companies would make larger subwoofers if they couldn't function properly? Yes, that includes being "snappy", whatever that actually means to you. I assume you mean fast and quick. Yes, larger subs are plenty "snappy", but you are welcome to deny it all you want, those of us who know better will continue on just fine without your approval.
@Chief351L Рік тому
I’ve had a JL 3-10 setup before and to date is still the best sounding setup I’ve had….
@slowshotzz Рік тому
@Car Audio Fabrication!!!! I want to buy Kicker CompR dual 12” subs. Pre fab off the shelf box. What would you recommend before I buy it? I drive a 2023 mark 8 golf R. Any tips/suggestions??
@mikeadams1310 Рік тому
Have 2 15s in a sealed box now thinking of doing 4 10s in a ported box next
@Birmingham_racing Рік тому
I've had 6.5 inch to 15s. My favourite size is 10 since it still goes deep and quick bass response
@davidperry4013 Рік тому
My personal preference is 12 inch subs in a sedan because it’s the sweet spot. 2 12s at 3000 rms combined will slap even in a sealed enclosure. Sealed enclosure take up less trunk space and is a fool proof way to get amazing SQ. As for ported boxes they can get amazing SQ if built properly to match the subwoofer driver specifically and tuned nice and low.
@zacari99 7 місяців тому
do your subs still hit into the high 20’s with a sealed box?
@liebermarcell882 6 місяців тому
I recently swapped my old 12" Kicker Comp-C (ported box) for an Eton Force 10" (closed enclosure). Bass instantly got much cleaner. I'm also going to replace my AS Carbon 500.1D amp for a JL Audio JX1000.1D for further upgrades and for having a little extra power so I don't have to turn up the gain to max level.
@Huckleberry54 6 місяців тому
It got better because an enclosed sub, in my opinion, has better sound quality than ported. And requires less wattage to run it too.
@Anthonylimones21 Рік тому
I’m using 2 10in subwoofer’s and they sound really clean in my 2004 Honda pilot. I’m running 2 sdr’s 10s at 1 ohm
@bassmansl9596 Рік тому
Nicely said 👌
@jennieleighloomis7870 2 місяці тому
Building a custom deck for my Ford C-max hybrid. Going with 8" pioneer TS-A2000LDS2 (2) and a 1600w kicker amp. This setup is removable.
@onefastgmc Рік тому
I've been researching and debating on the best set up for my 05 crew cab Silverado that lets maintain my back seat and doesn't take up any leg room. Not many good pre fab boxes out there and I'm no carpenter so idk if I wanna try to build my own or not... Not sure if multiple 6.5-8 inch woofers would be better than 2 10s or 2 12s as they'll have to be shallow mount, most likely under the seat. Or, I could build a box that sits on the middle seat but then I lose the ability to flip the seat up if I need to. I know I'm gonna replace the factory Bose sub with a 6.5 kicker as it'll fit the stock under console box with a little trimming and sound way cleaner/louder, I'll possibly run an aftermarket amp to keep the sub at full power instead of worrying about the stock amp reducing output as the volume increases but I haven't decided fully on that yet.
@JonathanDFielding Рік тому
Check out JL audios dual 8w3 in their ported. I put a single 8 w 3 under my friends back seat in his truck and it sounds really good in a small enclosure and in a small space and in a small cabin
@jiriza84641 8 місяців тому
Been thinking about my 23 tacoma, Keep an 8" in the area in the rear rather than go with the JL tacoma sub. don't want competition bass just in the middle as one of your videos.
@absoluteclownworld 9 місяців тому
I still use my old 10" infinity kapa 400rms sub. Hits like a 🚚 still!
@jeremycole2720 Рік тому
Hi Mark, I enjoy watching your videos. It sure would be nice to see some fresh videos. For example, how to set up an amplifier that is oversized for the load. A 500w rms sub and an 800w+ rms amp. Or tips on determining the crossover points when using 6 1/2” mids, tweeters, and 8” in the front doors along with one 10” or 12” sub in the rear. Or tips on incorporating a subwoofer enclosure into a custom center console.
@johannjohann6523 Рік тому
You always want a sub that is 50%-100% more wattage than the speakers or subs you are driving. The reason, you can adjust the "Gain" knob on the amplifier's power. Generally, it is good to supply 90%-80% of RMS wattage to speakers so you do not damage them, or get distortion. By using a stronger amp and turning its power back, means the amp will run cooler and not work as hard. This again will help with distortion, but also the longevity of your amp. Heat is the worse thing for amplifiers and their long term performance. If it is possible adding a computer fan to blow air over your amp (if it doesn't already have one) is a great way to help keep the amp cool as well. Simply tie into the amp's remote start wire for the fan's power wire, and make sure to get a 12 volt fan and the fan will turn on when your amp does. Even a little bit of cool air will greatly help an amplifier. Computer fans are the best as they run the quietest. So in your case of a 500w sub and an 800 watt amp. Simply adjust your Gain control knob on the amp to about the 1 - 2 o'clock position and you should be fine. And that is a great set up to power your sub, and not overwork your amp. So you are already on the right track. Peace.
@johannjohann6523 Рік тому
I'm sorry. Correction: You always want an AMPLIFIER (not sub) that is 50%-100% more powerful than your speakers or sub that you are driving.
@johannjohann6523 Рік тому
1 other thing: make sure you use large enough speaker wiring for your sub. And you don't necessarily have to buy a particular size wire, you can double up on smaller gauge wire to make the connections. just make sure the ends of the two wires are connected together before installing on the amp and sub. Best to solder instead of using "crimp" type connections for connecting the ends. In fact, it is always best to solder connections than any other type of connection. It really isn't that hard to do these days, and they even make battery operated soldering irons for convenience.
@johannjohann6523 9 місяців тому
You always want to use an amplifier with more power than the speakers. Generally twice the amount, or a little less. That way you set the Gain Knob around 50-60%. 500 watt Sub, 1000 or in your case 800W amp. That way the amplifier doesn't work to hard, overheat and burn out early on ya. In your case 500w sub, and a 800 w amp, set the Gain around 2 o'clock, and you should be fine. Perfect actually. (if I already commented on this sorry, just smoked one. lol).
@nelsonminator 8 місяців тому
Hi, I'm new to the channel and new to the whole car audio world... I was wondering, is there a 5 channel system?
@JimP226 7 місяців тому
Yes lots of 5 channel amps out there. Often will be rated something like 200w x1 + 50w x4 at 4 ohms.
@nearchd504 Рік тому
I have an 8inch , soft spider, low spring constant in a vented enclosure for the car and for house, I got five 12inches car subwoofers and one 18 inches pa system LF driver.
@oakraiders5596 Рік тому
@caraudiofabrication I have a question for you, what are your thoughts on the Rockford Fosgate powered subs? The ones with the built in amp, they make a 8”, 10” and a 12”, most 300 watts rms besides the ported 12” it’s 500 watts rms I believe
@jdm_95 8 місяців тому
I need an advice. I just got a Chevy tahoe with the bose sound system. My particular vehicle comes with a 6" midwoofer in the middle console. Not the standard 8" subwoofer mounted on the rear. Really contemplating on getting the small box with the 8" sub but wondering if it would actually make a difference or just upgrading the midwoofer for a better one. Please help
@jp1087 7 місяців тому
I have a Yukon with the same system. The factory Bose sub is paired with the factory low-power amp. So simply swapping it out for a different sub isn't going to do any good, because you can't make any adjustments to fine-tune the sub and the power just won't be there. Upgrading the factory Bose sub and keeping it in the same location would be a lot more costly than to just stick a single 8-inch sub with a proper box in the rear. I would suggest getting a prefab sub with a built-in amp from Fosgate, Kicker, Phoenix Gold, etc. and stick it behind the 3rd row. That way if you need cargo space, you can just unplug it and stick it in your garage.
@robsolf 11 місяців тому
The other thing is whether you want to install subs to hear and feel them or if you want to install subs to annoy everyone around you. the lower a frequency, the more distance it takes for that wave to fully develop. 10's or 12's will be more efficient in producing frequencies that are both: in the frequency band of music, and actually fully develop inside the car. 15's and 18's are more efficient at producing frequencies that will only develop outside the car. My personal preference has always been 12's. I think they strike the best balance between going super deep, and adding more musical punch. 10's will do in a cramped cargo space or in a stealth application, and it's much better to have a 10 with proper box dimensions than a 12 that's jammed into a smaller box than intended. But if you have the space, IMO 12's are the best in a car, even in a 2-12 vs. 3-10 area.
@teambenjamin1 7 місяців тому
I agree with what you’re saying here. I use the term wavelength though. You hear the sound at the end of the wavelength. If the wavelength is longer than the car, it sounds better outside the car.
@OxBlitzkriegxO 4 місяці тому
this is 100% false. a larger sub will produce ALLLLLL frequencies more efficiently until inductance becomes the limiting factor.
@bryanwilliams3665 3 дні тому
The smaller they are, generally the Faster they are with less 'Overhang'..Pace Rhythm and Timing is better.
@bryanwilliams3665 3 дні тому
@@OxBlitzkriegxONot at the expense of Speed or Overhang..Larger subs generally go lower but don't stop and start at good as a small driver..Big subs great for Synth stuff ..Not for Bass Guitar though
@joedirt1927 Рік тому
Great video! There are some awesome 6.5" and 8" subwoofers available. Companies have started catering these smaller subs to fit truck under seat enclosures.
@Custom_Tundra_XFire_Audio Рік тому
I got 6, 8” Xfire subs with 750W RMS each under the backseat of my truck. At 34Hz I hit 143dB, this was before I got it fully breaker in and tuned on the DSP. I believe it will got a few dB higher by now. It can go very very loud and deep, it does travel far!
@edbproductions Рік тому
The one thing I can say for your example of having more cone area is that 3 10s is only 10in^2 more than 2 12s which is almost nothing. every other point I think you nailed it. the one thing I can say is that larger subs tend to hit low notes way better so if you want to rattle your car apart bigger is better. if you want clean punchy notes 8-10" subs rock.
@SKISER83 Рік тому
I have 6 outa 8 😂
@rfgate Рік тому
Going by the 15” v 10” comparison graph the 15” will be louder …
@SKISER83 Рік тому
@@rfgate u wouldn't need a graph..1 15" sub would or should be louder than a 10" sub..
@thomasstott527 Рік тому
100 percent correct...
@nigelman9506 Рік тому
I did rattle my car apart, cracks in the bodywork and glass, started with a bargain amp marked up with a wrong price ?, fitted in my Escort MK6 and blew up the six 280w 6x9 speakers I fitted, replaced all with 510w 6x9 and shattered the cones, found another bargain, 15inch 1500w speakers, I fitted two in my parcel shelf and replaced all the 510w 6x9, it worked perfectly, you cannot drive at half volume as it makes your eye wobble, makes a great body massager, I did not have a high range sound meter, only maxed out at 101db but walking away from the car it still measured 101db up to 30 meters away and crystal clear, sometimes too much is not good, RIP Escort 1991 RS2000
@bradp5107 Рік тому
Hi Mark, Wondering if you are going to get into more box builds.
@arleyrivas9963 11 місяців тому
Any recommendations for 2001 sierra crew cab? I was thinking of going with 2 12" shallow woofers under the back seat, but now watching this video maybe a different setup would be better.
@DibeezyTheGifted Рік тому
This is true. This is also the reason I have an old SUV just for a large audio setup. 1500in² worth of cone area 🤣
@lyndonramchatesingh105 7 місяців тому
Hey CAF does have more speakers say 3 10" in one box does it equal to like a single 15 or 2 12 which would be louder
@CarAudioFabrication 7 місяців тому
All things being equal it depends on the cone area which can be simply calculated as noted in the video.
@godzilla964 Рік тому
I don’t know much about car subs, but I like the sound of bass guitar through an amp with a 10” speaker.
@user-un5vw7hr9m 6 місяців тому
What’s the best setup sub wise for a 2007 Toyota FJ I like loud bass but want something on a budget around 550-800 for the speakers as I can install them
@professionalhater2809 Рік тому
Is it wise to use Older brand new speakers, that have never been used? I have some shallow mount lanzar 10" speakers?
@eddiejames5695 4 місяці тому
What would you recommend for a 2017 equinox?
@webberfan1234 Рік тому
I like larger subs because I get very hungry. Wait, we’re talking subway right?
@chefchutardo5215 Рік тому
Im rebuilding a 1990 Nissan 300zx. I dont want a subwoofer enclosure in the 'trunk'. But there is two oem 6.5" enclosures in for oem rear speakers. What subwoofers would you recommend for that ? Number 1 priority is sound quality.
@victordelarosa589 Місяць тому
Sir do you have like on line classes or something I would love to learn more about this
@enriquebenavides8470 Рік тому
Do you have any ideas for sub sizes and locations for a 22 tacoma? Really want to upgrade mids and highs so i can add some bass
@user-gj5vi1kf7p 5 місяців тому
Hello there I have a question. I have a 2019 Tacoma and thinking about upgrading the sound from factory to JL audio all the way around the truck but don’t want to sacrifice the little room that I do have. What would you recommend the speakers and subs that I would go with.
@jorgemorado1630 6 місяців тому
Will a triple 8 setup from SKAR Audio fit a 2011 Nissan versa hatch?
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