ZWIFT Update: New AppleTV Remote Now Supported! [AppleTV4K 2021 Remote]

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Shane Miller - GPLama

Shane Miller - GPLama

2 роки тому

The September 2021 Zwift game update on AppleTV now has support for the new AppleTV remote with click-button navigation! Something that people have been asking for since the launch of the hardware from Apple back in early 2021. This support hasn't been listed in the changelog this month.... so I can only assume it's 'unofficial'... but it's a game changer for those who have been frustrated with the in-game navigation with the existing remote.
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@tstone5452
@tstone5452 Рік тому
I set mine up yesterday, August 2022, after watching this after not wanting to buy a new computer to run zwift and it is so easy to set up with the remote. The remote is really easy to use and the clarity of Apple TV 4K combined with a ViewSonic 24 inch gaming monitor is incredible. Highly recommended.
@TC_Prof
@TC_Prof 2 роки тому
You beauty! Thanks Shane been using since yesterday and just the route option is still a little jerky but a great update for the 4K 👌🏻👌🏻 Ride on!
@hendrik-janboven56
@hendrik-janboven56 2 роки тому
Just to let you folks know (and make your day! :-) ), on the original swipe-remote there are 4 virtual buttons, functioning the exact same way: tap (not click) upper part of swipe-pad to go up, lower, left and right to jump in these directions. So much better than swiping! Not sure if this was functional before the last update, but I do think so.
@globalste
@globalste 2 роки тому
Very useful, will give this a try as I almost went and bought the new Siri remote!
@bnc9261
@bnc9261 2 роки тому
Glad to see this added functionality: HOWEVER, having had the Apple TV (2020 version) navigation challenge, I switched last week to using my iPad Pro for Zwift, and my present feeling is that the touchscreen is SO easy and SO precise, and will be superior to the Apple TV even when the NEWS buttons on the latter are fully implemented. Tomorrow I will use the same approach, but also add screen mirroring from my IPad to my main display. Of course not everyone has an iPad, but it’s a valid option. I have both 2020 and 2021 Apple TVS, and they are both great for my overall viewing experience, But for now, Zwift via my iPad is so much easier to implement.
@MattSwain1
@MattSwain1 2 роки тому
I’ve got the new ATV currently connected to my main TV and a 1080 ATV that I’ve been mirroring my iPad through for Zwift. Will have to decide whether to get a new remote for the 1080p unit (and stop doing iPad mirroring) or just buy a second new ATV? I think I might just get a new remote as I don’t think there’s any real in game benefit to upgrading my 1080 ATV, hmmm
@nathancampbell82
@nathancampbell82 2 роки тому
Can't wait to try this on my next workout. One of my bug bears is changing your FTP with the remote. Almost impossible. Also if a workout description has a lot of text you can't scroll to read it all and also view the stress points etc.
@pam00088
@pam00088 2 роки тому
This could just be enough of a step in the right direction to trigger the purchase of an ATV 4k 2021! Thanks Shane.
@pauricsurlis9191
@pauricsurlis9191 2 роки тому
A quick look at the latest update, (1.21.0), seems to offer much improved support for the Siri remote. Route and Training plan options are selectable using the touch pad, moving in a controllable fashion as required. No mention in the release notes, but others will be interested if you share my opinion. I'm using the ATV HD (4th version) with the new Siri remote.
@joannemccormick5730
@joannemccormick5730 2 роки тому
One of the hardest things to navigate with the remote is bike selection, then changing the frame colour…. Oh and sock length, lol!
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Sock length IS important! 🧦👌🏼
@damFr
@damFr 2 роки тому
@@gplama yeah UCI do control it ;)
@shanew634
@shanew634 2 роки тому
Top tips Shane👍
@tick7146
@tick7146 2 роки тому
Shane, your videos are excellent and extremely helpful. That said, the new remote control is much (much, much) better but it is a pain to select a workout - the remote seems to be vague and a pain to use when browsing / selecting a workout. Can you share any secrets or advice for this issue. Other than that, selecting a route and all other functions are extremely easy
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
The long awaited new menu interface should address this. It’s a wait-and-see game for that to be released though.
@Croydonjohnny
@Croydonjohnny Рік тому
Great video!
@michaelkennedy9064
@michaelkennedy9064 2 роки тому
Zwift workouts is one area zwift need to a major overhaul. As a couch it would be great if that all in a group meetup can be given a workout set by the ride leader.
@justjase1576
@justjase1576 2 роки тому
Hey, I watched your review of the Tacx Neo Smart Bike, just interested to know are you still using it for indoor training or something else? I bought one and had it a few months, so far no issues....yet..... thanks
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
It has remained unused for the last ~18 months or so. I was hoping for a redesigned seat collar to stop the leg rub and maybe updates to the gear levers/brakes. I've heard nothing from Tacx/Garmin on these.
@ashfield001
@ashfield001 2 роки тому
Thanks for the info Shane. The old Apple TV control is a nightmare to use for Zwift.
@tick7146
@tick7146 2 роки тому
Calling it a nightmare would be overly-complimentary. It was like the Exorcist met a remote control.... I bought the new AppleTV JUST for the new remote...it's better but not perfect
@timandshutravel
@timandshutravel 2 роки тому
Your route selection with a swipe seems so much better than mine. Every time I swipe it moves up/down several routes. I can never get to a particular route I want. Always swiping right past it.
@davidrowe8747
@davidrowe8747 2 роки тому
Mine, too. I have found, though, that if I am fast enough, I can tap the centre circle as it flies past my desired route. Even if I miss-hit on another route, it doesn't take me anywhere, I just have to retry. But it's definitely preferable to hoping the swipe will end up in the right place (it's a bit like roulette!) Like you, otherwise I find I am swiping up .... down .... up .... down .... up .... down .... interminably. Annoying!
@GingerBoy1974
@GingerBoy1974 Рік тому
Any update on this ? Is it fully supported now?
@marty197666
@marty197666 2 роки тому
I’d use my Apple TV if I could add another device without the mobile link. I prefer to use my 4iiii inside and out for consistency! So I’ll keep on using my 5 yr old Alienware alpha 😬
@davidrowe8747
@davidrowe8747 2 роки тому
Clear explanation of how to use the new directional capability of the new remote. However, I was waiting to see what would happen at the end of the ride - I'm finding that when I save a ride, Apple TV then exits automatically - so I have to re-click on the user field - and THEN I find the sensors have disconnected. This means if I just start another ride, one or more of the sensors isn't connected (usually the HR monitor), and I have to go through the pairing rigmarole again.
@timschneider589
@timschneider589 2 роки тому
Using the Apple TV remote, how do you cycle through the mini map views?
@OrientEspresso
@OrientEspresso 2 роки тому
I am looking to upgrade from using my phone (which looks fantastic but tiny) and mirror setup to Chromecast (which is jerky, often pixelated, and often crashes) to something else. We have two setups close together, space constrained, so putting in two PCs would be expensive and difficult. So... been thinking about ATV 4k 2021, watched some reviews, and have wondered if they have improved graphics at all in the past 4 months or so. My monitor is 1920x1080, 24". Wondering about the shadow rendering amonst overall visual quality. I tried to see from the video review of the remote being better supported, but curses, it was a cloudy day so I couldn't really tell! Thanks for anybody who has any comments about video rendering etc. for the 2021 ATV 4K.
@crankgreenwatts
@crankgreenwatts 2 роки тому
Training! Workouts is a real pain with the swiping when multiple sub levels 😢
@Mike0
@Mike0 2 роки тому
Does apple TV work with a mouse? I've not used apple TV, but I was thinking this must be a pain, must be even worse if you're on a training plan and want to do a different workout
@mrjoshuagordon
@mrjoshuagordon 2 роки тому
@@Mike0 no
@n.eilo_rides
@n.eilo_rides 2 роки тому
Work still to be done on this section, so frustrating
@peterricciardiello7669
@peterricciardiello7669 2 роки тому
Yep, it absolutely is still very tedious to move through the workout menu. I can't imagine why Zwift HQ can't build into the companion app the abilitity to set up workouts, choose worlds, and choose routes.
@kristiangulbrandsen6808
@kristiangulbrandsen6808 2 роки тому
Anyone know if the new update supports sound from Netflix etc with PiP now?
@SteRumbelow
@SteRumbelow 2 роки тому
I see your Personal Best power numbers were reset after the update too. I find that an incredibly annoying flaw of Zwift’s update procedure. Those numbers are a valuable indicator of performance. A really quick way to see whether you’ve beaten a PB after an effort. I really wish they would prevent updates doing that.
@damFr
@damFr 2 роки тому
Totally agree : also after some big updates some time I need to re enter login and password. Apple product are simple and easy. The Zwift are apparently good for pc but they don’t understand Apple.
@SteRumbelow
@SteRumbelow 2 роки тому
@@damFr yep, and I think it’s the logging out that resets the values - that’s why it doesn’t do it after every update.
@izzy6766
@izzy6766 2 роки тому
Hi Shane, what about typing the name at the end of your workout is that still swipe or can you click to the letters you want thanks
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
It uses the Apple menus for this, so I assume clicky works. Voice will be easier than spelling out one by one.
@robertwillemsen368
@robertwillemsen368 2 роки тому
Thinking about switching to apple tv insted of my win10 computer. Got to much issues on win pc with zwift. Is zwift on apple tv stable? And HR and cadance via companion app, does that work?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
It'll work... but the interface interaction isn't as nice as a keyboard and mouse.
@robertwillemsen368
@robertwillemsen368 2 роки тому
@@gplama thank you! Indeed ! Bought the aple tv and it works. But given simple ride on’s is more difficult. But no more break down’s on my potato sytem. Happy!
@lthexton7884
@lthexton7884 2 роки тому
You can use any IR tv remote with Apple TV. Just go to the remote settings and program as per the prompts. Works much better than the Siri for zwift.
@stjorg
@stjorg 2 роки тому
Did they update the graphics profile for the new AppleTV also? I might be wrong, but I think see more details now
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Not that I’m aware of.
@davemaynard3826
@davemaynard3826 2 роки тому
I’ve a ATV 4K with the older remote. Can you just get a new remote with clicky ability for when that final 20% is fixed and supported.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Yep.
@sonivex
@sonivex 2 роки тому
Yep. Apple calls it the Siri Remote. It costs $79.
@MikeKolcun
@MikeKolcun 2 роки тому
You might also try the function101 button remote - I bought this a while ago, and initially it didn't work as it only has the click buttons, and no swipe. Just tested, and it partially works now, but those sub-menus won't work, as there is no swipe on the remote at all. Once Zwift 100% works with the click remote, I suspect the function101 remote will work too. One caveat though, it's IR, so needs line of sight.
@mikecastelete
@mikecastelete Рік тому
Hi Shane. Wonder if you can help. I'm having a few issues connecting my Kickr v4 to Zwift via my new Apple TV 2021 with Bluetooth. Bluetooth appears to be working on the Kickr and Apple TV but on the screen at 2.04 of your video the BT icon in the top left corner has an ! mark next to it and no pulsing lines from the icon. I cannot get anything to pair. I've even put the Apple TV directly next to the Kickr but nothing. I was previously using Zwift via Ant + from my Mac Laptop but wanted to use Apple TV instead. Do you have any ideas on what I could check please? Thanks Mike
@gplama
@gplama Рік тому
One for Zwift support.
@glencunningham5400
@glencunningham5400 2 роки тому
I still find it to be very tricky to use scrolling on the new remote to select submenu items like the workouts, but found a great trick today. Rather than scrolling directly up and down the center of the ring and enter button, if you scroll in a circular motion around the raised part of the click-button ring it will scroll with much finer and more controllable motion. The trick is that you still have to move up or down, but just follow the rim. For example, to move down, slide your finger clockwise from the 12 o'clock to the 6 o'clock position around, or backwards from 6 to 12 o'clock to move up. If you need to move up or down further, just repeat.
@Croydonjohnny
@Croydonjohnny Рік тому
Brilliant! Thanks very much. I could not get it to go down on the sub menu in my training plan. Just tried your tip and it works perfectly!
@Explore-Dream-Discover
@Explore-Dream-Discover 2 роки тому
How much does this cost please?
@NathanBudd
@NathanBudd Рік тому
I have the swiping turned off on my Apple TV Remote in the Apple TV settings. Are you telling me there's no way for me to select a route without using the swipe? Click does nothing for me at all.
@LarsTore
@LarsTore 2 роки тому
Call me old-fashioned, but I am staying on my Windows desktop when home and my Mac when traveling
@janmortier3253
@janmortier3253 2 роки тому
how do you give "ride on" with the apple TV remote? Never did find it out how it works, still using companion app to do so. thnx
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Not possible with the remote that I'm aware. You can shout 'Ride On' with the action bar and thumbs up.
@janmortier3253
@janmortier3253 2 роки тому
@@gplama , damn it would have been a nice feature, if you would be able to "program" the buttons
@MrLuigi-oi7gm
@MrLuigi-oi7gm 2 роки тому
Hi Shane! Now that it's almost Feb. of 2022, has Zwift finally given the new Apple TV remote full functionality? Do the ⬆️⬇️➡️⬅️ buttons work in the sub-menus? Also, what about graphics with the new Apple TV 4K 2021? Does it still provide LESS graphic detail than the 2017 version...missing shadow elements, etc.? I would love to see an update review of the 2021 Apple TV 4K where the initial limitations of the 2021 model are addressed. Are things there same? Better? Cheers, Mate
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Both 4K AppleTV models are now equal for Zwift graphical detail. The remote… works a little better. Zwift told me they made no change…. So who knows there. They’re working on a new menu interface, so I don’t expect any change to the current experience there.
@MrLuigi-oi7gm
@MrLuigi-oi7gm 2 роки тому
@@gplama Thank you, Shane! I've said it before, but I'm going to say it again. Your kindness and commitment to your subscribers it's not lost on me. I hope everyone else feels the same.
@JonathanMallett
@JonathanMallett 2 роки тому
Testing out a new Sairs H(ammer) Trainer or just the closest trainer at the time?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
This is a H3 that has risen from the dead. The circuit board was fried. I gave it to a mate to look at... he fixed it!
@JonathanMallett
@JonathanMallett 2 роки тому
@@gplama he wasn't able to fix the horrible cadence algorithm while he was at it was he? 😆
@toddtannenbaum7092
@toddtannenbaum7092 2 роки тому
@@gplama Hopefully this means a Saris H3 GPLama Loop-Back Review is forthcoming? *fingers crossed*
@chiaaara
@chiaaara 2 роки тому
Not for me. I had one of those black Apple TV remotes and it worked fine, until it died. Just got a new silver one and it's driving me nuts. I can't select a route for example. Very frustrating.
@davidparrott2090
@davidparrott2090 2 роки тому
Does anyone know how to turn in Zwift at intersections with an apple remote? Seems impossible but maybe it's something you have to do with the companion app if desired
@davidrobertnewman
@davidrobertnewman Місяць тому
The workout menus being not great (around 6:23) is still an issue in late February 2024.
@michaelkennedy9064
@michaelkennedy9064 2 роки тому
I have 3 of those new remotes but still use my iphone as my remote. The 3 remotes just sit in a draw
@mrjoshuagordon
@mrjoshuagordon 2 роки тому
Selecting training is the most frustrating. How does that work now?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
I show selecting a workout in this video. Training plans… no idea.
@velokicks312
@velokicks312 2 роки тому
A .Zwift Oz account eh! *Batman voice* "WHAT IS IT!"
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Another account I use to stop 20k people getting push updates that I'm riding. Nobody likes that spam.
@jaccogabbano
@jaccogabbano Рік тому
Hi Shane, by accident i mentioned that my normal tv remote can be used with Apple tv 4k and Zwift. By using the buttons "exit" in game and with the arrows you can navigate without using the apple tv remote. I hate my apple tv remote, but this makes it a lot easier :-)
@gplama
@gplama Рік тому
Great tip!
@aha200971
@aha200971 2 роки тому
Is this so good that i would be usefull on a MacBook instead of messing around with a trackpad or mouse?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
No
@TC-hl1ws
@TC-hl1ws 2 роки тому
How many sensors can be paired to the AppleTV4K 2021 minus the remote control?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Two additional devices. Each device can do multiple things (eg Power, Cadence, Control from a smart trainer = 1 device).
@TC-hl1ws
@TC-hl1ws 2 роки тому
@@gplama Could I pair a Kicker Core, a cadence sensor and a phone for Zwift Companion app?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
The Companion App isn’t a sensor, so yes. This will work.
@kevinaernouts9174
@kevinaernouts9174 2 роки тому
I'm using Apple TV also for Zwift, but I don't know how to stream my races live on UKposts from the Apple TV app. How can I do that?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Not possible direct from AppleTV. You need a capture device of some kind and a system to encode/upload the stream (Mac or PC).
@jpprovost64
@jpprovost64 2 роки тому
but the image quality is better t then last one 2017 ?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Both 4K ATV use the same graphics profile for Zwift.
@apadma
@apadma 2 роки тому
The odd of my ATV 4K 2021, the zwift app is somehow cropped on my TV screen. The edge has missing, and the curve on the below screen is not visible due to cropped screen.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
Sounds like a screen/TV issue.
@apadma
@apadma 2 роки тому
@@gplama already fix it. Yes, it's the TV issue. Thank you!
@mathewrose2951
@mathewrose2951 2 роки тому
What fresh hell is going on with the latest October Zwift update? They just removed support for Mac products? How bad are their developers that they just remove functional video for one of the two major consumer computer platforms?!? Can Zwift offer a more expensive plan that doesn't implement any update until it has been stable for two weeks? I'd pay more.
@arch0094
@arch0094 Рік тому
This update has COMPLETELY BROKEN the original controller beyond usability specifically when trying to select workouts…. I couldn’t for the life of me figure out what was going on. It has always been awful, but since last update it is almost unusable. Someone below mentioned the button function now works as ‘taps’ on the edges of the original swipe pad - which after testing it does. This makes complete sense. I used to clumsily scroll between workout folders, opening and closing different sub folders to find a workout I want on a given day. The lag and precision was always finicky, but I could at least scroll. With the new TAP parts on the touchpad though, the window for scrolling is even smaller and less precise. Scrolling between workout folders is fine, but as soon as you open a subfolder it is unusable. When you scroll up to close a subfolder of workouts and choose another, it jumps to the top of the screen. When you scroll to the bottom of the workouts in that subfolder it jumps to the bottom of the screen. If you back out of the menu to click on training again, it still has the same folder open and is a nightmare to navigate. I have limited workout time. It can now take 15mins just to select a workout. Absolutely ridiculous. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE share this post as it just can’t stay like this 😭
@shimanobabe2660
@shimanobabe2660 2 роки тому
I often fancy saving screenshots captured at end of my ride before clicking ‘Save’ and that I will have to rely on my ATV remote (can’t do it via Companion unfortunately) to make my selections of those I want to be uploaded to my Strava. The swiping/select screenshots captured on the old remote drive me nuts especially after a crazy hard ride 🥵 if I were to get only this new remote - this got to be one of the reasons worth getting it 😂
@markjensen7489
@markjensen7489 2 роки тому
Do we know if Zwift will ever expand on the three long term challenges (Italy, California and the Everesting). Feels like nothing has happened on that front for ages.
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
I expect them to be removed at some point. They’re a legacy thing from before the days of challenges and missions as we know them now.
@davidmulligan42
@davidmulligan42 2 роки тому
I wonder if the universal remote I bought (thinking it would work in Zwift) might also work now? I'll have to go find it and try it out.
@colinberry276
@colinberry276 2 роки тому
Let us know, thanks! Asked a similar question. 👍
@davidmulligan42
@davidmulligan42 2 роки тому
@@colinberry276 Now I can't find the stupid remote! If I find it, I'll let you know how it works. It looks like we may still need swipe capability for some menus, so I don't think it'll be a full solution at this point.
@alastairsmith3038
@alastairsmith3038 2 роки тому
New AppleTV4K functionality? I had my Kickr Core, Polar H10 HRM, Bluetooth headphones, plus the remote all connect to Zwift via the Apple TV. Had just installed the new tvOS 15. Can anyone else confirm that more than 3 devices, plus the remote, can be connected now?
@gplama
@gplama 2 роки тому
BLE headphones don't consume one of the 'only two other' connections used by Zwift.
@damFr
@damFr 2 роки тому
It is better BUT it shows that Zwift don’t use the built in apple API of the remote. It it would have been the case no need to launch an update. Still some menu not compatible. Zwift still need to rethink the way to develop for apple product, this is a personal opinion but I have the impression the chief developer do not like Apple and never understood the way of developing App for Apple and Mac. No need to re invent the wheel.
@carlhussey8028
@carlhussey8028 2 роки тому
It does NOT support the buttons. Only in the top menu which is a disgrace
@WowRixter
@WowRixter 2 роки тому
Marginal gains
@zelpel
@zelpel Місяць тому
worst controlling ever
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