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@yoskarokuto3553
@yoskarokuto3553 9 годин тому
They have many pcb version ( for oem brand ) ?
@sanjikaneki6226
@sanjikaneki6226 16 годин тому
those crimped cables are they compatible with all molex plastic pieces that support 26AWG wire?
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 годин тому
You can find pre-crimped wires that are compatible with all of the major known systems, but the ones I've shown are compatible with JST PH style 2.0mm pitch connectors.
@SergeSimon
@SergeSimon 16 годин тому
We are still waiting with impatience for the videos about engineer's coffees & related stuff ;)
@voltlog
@voltlog 6 годин тому
Yes, I really wanna do those I just haven't found the time resources to get around to that. But thank you for reminding me, this is pushing me in the right direction! :-)
@2000jago
@2000jago День тому
Hooray! In the mail videos don't come nearly as often as I would like... more please!
@PatrickFelstead
@PatrickFelstead День тому
I'd like to see more of those Sodium Ion 18650 Batteries - thanks!
@voltlog
@voltlog День тому
Noted!
@jwrtiger
@jwrtiger День тому
Wow what a great father, your son is very lucky!
@voltlog
@voltlog День тому
Thank you!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations День тому
Awesome stuff, man! Keep those videos coming! 😊 About the Na Ion cells, I want a TP4056 module for them! 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@voltlog
@voltlog День тому
Thanks! I would like a simple charging module for Na Ion cells too!
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu
@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu День тому
What is the voltage of the Na-Ion cells!? Without that info, a "capacity" of 1300mAh means nothing. If the cell is 100V, that is a hell of a lot of power stored.
@makertronika
@makertronika День тому
Typical characteristics of these cells : Nominal Voltage: 3.0V Operating voltage: 1.5~4.0V Real Capacity: 1300mAh Energy Density: 128.00Wh/Kg Cycle life: >2000 cycles Charging Temperature: -0℃~35℃ Discharging temperature: -40℃~60℃ Storage life: 15 years
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse
@AnnaVannieuwenhuyse День тому
Let it sink in for a minute. I would not doubt for a second that these metrics are purposefully vague and circumstantial.
@dismayer666
@dismayer666 День тому
Thanks for the video. I like those Sodium Ion cells. When they become cheaper that might be a good alternative to Li-ion. Please show some tests of these cells.
@voltlog
@voltlog День тому
Thanks! I will look into it!
@makertronika
@makertronika День тому
I know correlation doesn't mean causation, but for some reason every time you post an InTheMail video my bank account dips a bit right after.
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations День тому
Weird, the same happens to me! 🤔
@bwselectronic
@bwselectronic День тому
Seems like every few weeks I have the same problem. Not necessarily the items on here, but I definitely see Aliexpress packages arrive afterwards. 😎
@KiemPlant
@KiemPlant 3 дні тому
I figured out that for me it only was able to flash if I removed it from the headers I put it in (luckily I didn't solder it directly to the board). As soon as I put it back in my circuit, it fails. Maybe it has something to do with using the same pin that has the led connected to it as a data output pin. Edit: Yeah that's actually it... "D2: must be LOW during boot and also connected to the on-board LED"
@edic2619
@edic2619 4 дні тому
Great video. Thanks.
@khudhrema
@khudhrema 4 дні тому
لا اعرف الى ماذا تستخدم ؟
@edic2619
@edic2619 5 днів тому
Cooling fan... The engineers must he dummies... most all customers want a silent scope... it would be extremely easy to make the adjustment and there must be 100s of silent fans already developed.
@uni-byte
@uni-byte 5 днів тому
The reason you did not get any joy from the probe compensation is that you had the probe set to 1X. Compensation is for 10X, not 1X. Sorry, looks like this was said many times before.
@TrevorV
@TrevorV 5 днів тому
I ordered this and got it to America in 11 days! Works beautifully! I have been doing all of my shelly devices using mgos2tasmota and then writing the firmware to esphome after that. It wasn't that big of a deal until I got a Shelly Plus 2PM and there is an error with that model when trying to overwrite the Tasmota with ESPhome. Now, I would do all of them this way. Much, much faster to flash esphome directly!
@listerdave1240
@listerdave1240 5 днів тому
Thanks, I've been trying without success to make isolation slots but it always gave me the error. It never occurred to me to actually close it in the way described, I was wrongly assuming there would then be some way to specify the width of the slot rather than drawing the actual slot itself. Now with help of the video I can make the slots fine but I encounter a very annoying issue. While drawing the slot every time I click the mouse to make a corner it brings up the dialog 'Cannot determine board outline' and I have to click it away. How do you avoid that happening? Is there some way to prevent it from checking on every single move?
@iamliquidx
@iamliquidx 6 днів тому
Raspberry pi can now be booted up without an sd card after the latest update ,just connect an ethernet cable and ssd and you are good to go , provided u r on latest firmware
@ArnoldSzathmary
@ArnoldSzathmary 7 днів тому
11:06 and do not forget to connect a freewheeling diode to the fan. This will reduce the load on the MOSFET and the device will probably cause less interference in the radio range.
@rokiedecentra9656
@rokiedecentra9656 8 днів тому
wanted to get the hantek bench meter, but after buying the bench function generator - the fancy looking one and how badly made the UI is, i reconsidered and i feel like they are being overly hopeful with their specifications rather than conservative like most manufacturers. the calibration document that came with it had no information of what they did and what it read, in my own testing i observed quite a bit of jitter - i could not tell if it is my oscilloscope or the function generator but thats what really caused my confidence in hantek to go down - havent checked on eevblog if anyone has done more extensive tests
@voltlog
@voltlog 7 днів тому
Thank you for your feedback! I'm gonna review several different AWG from UNI-T soon.
@dabigjokeoftheday
@dabigjokeoftheday 8 днів тому
Took coil out of all of mine. They work fine
@AndreasRP.
@AndreasRP. 8 днів тому
I did this and tried to test the sound via the app, the AirTag no longer makes any sound. Now I can install it in my car and any potential thief won’t know there’s an AirTag.
@Ruth_Asada
@Ruth_Asada 9 днів тому
The manufacturer of these voltage dividers is a company TOKEN [Token Electronics Industry Co., Ltd.]
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Nice! Thank you for sharing.
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 9 днів тому
As you said, for DMMs like this higher sample rate trades off for less accuracy. But it can be useful for high speed measurements sometimes, more accurate than a scope. Guessing they limited the sample rate based on processing or something else. Good teardown.
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Thank you!
@TYGAMatt
@TYGAMatt 9 днів тому
Feel free to send me that old glitchy unit when you get the new one. I don't mind putting up with it 😊 Matt.
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
That's a very valid point for those that are going to comment and trash the model or mfr because of something like that :-)
@nixxonnor
@nixxonnor 9 днів тому
Very nice and first impression review. It would have been eevblog worthy if you had measured the actual performance in more detail :)
@Ruth_Asada
@Ruth_Asada 9 днів тому
About the same as rigol and siglent in this segment. Something is better, something is worse. But the general solutions and components are the same.
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
I generally agree with that view and important to add is that UNI-T price their models lower than the competition.
@glenslick2774
@glenslick2774 9 днів тому
7:04 The logo on that UPRNS resistor network looks like it might be the logo of Thunder Precision Resistor.
@tonyh6309
@tonyh6309 9 днів тому
It is. Precision custom metal film networks, TCR down to 1ppm, stability class 0.025%. The Max6225 datasheet contradicts itself - the 1.5ppm typ, 3ppm max applies to the DIP package whereas the AESA+ (SO package) is shown as max TC of 5ppm in the table on the first page. Who knows what the typical value is supposed to be? (Not that 'typical' means very much).
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Thank you for sharing that. Again, another valid point for me saying a lot of high quality parts seen in this assembly.
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon 9 днів тому
to be honest Unity was and is always cheap and crap ..for expensive models. they are not crap but they are not special in any way so from all those close ups..it looks pretty bad
@sebastian_harnisch
@sebastian_harnisch 9 днів тому
What looks pretty bad exactly? Can you be more specific?
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Please share more details, it's important to understand what looks pretty bad to you.
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon 8 днів тому
@@sebastian_harnisch Hello. Yes i can share few details. 1. Cooling of those heatsink is not needed. Instead of small heatsink they could put bigger one or use chassis as heatsink as it is done with other models or they could use specific low dropout regulator 2. Those crimps/input terminals looks skimpy at best plastic doesn't look like any good choice..yes it is cheap but that is about it.. ..i didn't see any good precision resistor there..yes there were few but for good equipment you need good low tempco resistor with good voltage source. 3. Voltage source is so so ..nothing special i would rather use heated voltage standard instead of just solution on chip but this is just my discussion. 4. RF shielding isn't good as i see it.. i didn't notice imput dedicated chassis filter(but i might be wrong on this one). ..and much more.
@sebastian_harnisch
@sebastian_harnisch 8 днів тому
@@SylwerDragon I find it a bit difficult respond. I guess it depends on what you expect. You’re neither paying for Keysight nor are you getting Keysight. It’s not a reasonable approach to just say „you need this or that number of precision resistors. You have to characterize the unit and see whether it meets its specs. If it does this argument is pretty pointless. If it doesn’t then *that* is a problem. I agree that it would be nicer to have a voltage reference like the LM399, but then again, for an affordable 5 1/2 digits DMM the choice seems somewhat reasonable to me. I’m not 100% sure, but I think that most direct competitors (Siglent, Hantek etc.) have a very similar approach (MAX6325 or similar). If you know of an equally affordable new DMM with a better voltage reference, please let me know. I‘ll leave it at that. This is not to say that I‘m 100% impressed and would recommend to blindly buy cheap test equipment - and personally chose to go with two used 34401A. But I think it’s important to state facts and give explanations so that one can judge whether an argument is worth considering.
@SylwerDragon
@SylwerDragon 8 днів тому
@@sebastian_harnisch I understand.. to your findings lets say. 34401A is what i bought twice myself including some improvements i made on it and such..but that is basic of quality/design i would start with 6.5Digit. Ofc i understand cheaper you go less options you will get..but again ...As company you don't care about cheap equipment you pay a bit more for good one ..but that will last for years to come.. as individual used equipment is way to go..but there are brands you don't want to go with and UNITy is one of them but ofc choice is yours as they say :) not because they make bad equipment but because they usually make cheaper equipment with less quality/design on mind and more to price.
@IanScottJohnston
@IanScottJohnston 9 днів тому
The transformer is mounted on the side and on an in-dented plate to give it the most robust mounting arrangement. Flat plates bend, throw in some angles and the strength increases.
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Makes sense maybe from some weird manufacturing limitation because why wouldn't they be able to the same indent to the bottom metal plate?
@davidvb3754
@davidvb3754 9 днів тому
"Entering the high-range category"..... I do agree with you, seeing the quality of the build, but it becomes also barely affordable for a hobbyist.....
@voltlog
@voltlog 9 днів тому
Bench top multimeters are generally not the right choice for hobbyists who only use them occasionally and they don't need the precision or the accuracy of such an instrument. There are hand held meters that are more affordable for that type of usage.
@TheBlackDove
@TheBlackDove 10 днів тому
Tried it and it works with P-Touch 1010! Thank you!
@bernardm3066
@bernardm3066 10 днів тому
The features seem nice + the web interface for convenience but the fan noise for me is an issue as it generally bothers me a lot. Do you have any recommendations for oscilloscopes with very low to no fan noise?
@voltlog
@voltlog 10 днів тому
I am not aware of any good oscilloscopes with low to no fan noise.
@arturomaycordoba5320
@arturomaycordoba5320 10 днів тому
Soft silicone is the best way to protect and to rework
@zzzaaalll
@zzzaaalll 11 днів тому
the pin went inside in the ending , how to fix?
@0x2102
@0x2102 12 днів тому
I have the same PSU (3305S). Overall I like it. What I don't like is the fan noise, even at idle it is annoying. It even ramps up from there in certain situations. Don't know if it's normal but with certain test loads 8V / 6A (48W output) it is drawing 230W from the wall. Seems very inefficient and the heatsink seems to be too small to handle the heat for a long time.
@mahmoudayman6973
@mahmoudayman6973 13 днів тому
is it allowable to communicate with RAK7289V2 using a heltec Lora32 V3 module with SX1262 LoRa node chip? , i want to program heltec Lora32 V3 module to send data to RAK7289V2 , is it possible?
@voltlog
@voltlog 10 днів тому
There shouldn't be any limitation, this gateway can communicate with all Lora devices.
@fredio54
@fredio54 14 днів тому
Just ordered one - hopefully it's still the right choice. Otherwise I failed to do my research properly. Que sera sera.
@John.Doe.2025
@John.Doe.2025 15 днів тому
450 $
@SlaVoy
@SlaVoy 16 днів тому
I don't see the option for user calibration, and for me, that's a fundamental feature considering that it's a low-budget and new multimeter, and it's uncertain how stable it will be over the coming years.
@MowSow
@MowSow 16 днів тому
Great video, but you missed one very important part on the crimping instructions. The die is made of 2 halves, one half is lower than the other half. It’s important to tell people to insert the connector in the die with the lower side of the die on the side of the connector that will crimp the wire rubber isolation, while the higher part of the die, will be on the naked wire side of the connector.
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek 16 днів тому
I'm not in the market for a bench meter at the moment, but it's a shame it doesn't have a nice web interface, that could have made me more interested. I guess they're more of a hardware company than a software company, hence the limited web/software functionality and bugs. Hopefully they can improve these things over time. What I did like was your test clips, specifically the mesh sleeving. I'm often annoyed by my own test leads going all over the place and getting in the way, so I might have to pick up some mesh and sleeve a set to see if that helps.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
This will be an interesting experiment, let's see if UNI-T fixes any of the problems discovered in this review. At that point, given the specs and the price the UNI-T is probably the best choice when compared to Hantek, Siglent which offer similar meters but higher priced. About the test clips, YES, I made these for that exact reason. Silicone cable + mesh sleeving and some heat shrink and you get something that's gonna work great!
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom 16 днів тому
A lot of the interface seems to have been copied from the Siglent SDM3000 series meters, very similar layouts and menu setups. I emailed Uni-t last week to see if they wanted to send me stuff to review too... but they never even replied !
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 16 днів тому
and Siglent is clearly copied from the Agilent UI.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
Siglent, Hantek, they all have similar layouts and menu setups for this type of instrument.
@tiagoferreira086
@tiagoferreira086 16 днів тому
I saw a modern competitor from BK Precision 5492C 5 1/2 Digit (don't remember exact model but was this series) with a very similar ui for sale at a good price on ebay with some fault that seemed to be repairable, but before i purchase i made some research and found out that several people also mentioned quite a few software bugs and issues with the pc communication, i ended up not to buying it because of that. But seems like many low cost instruments nowadays suffer from software issues, its a shame because sometimes the hardware is quite capable and good like that uni-t in this video (apart the super annoying fan).
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
This will be an interesting experiment, let's see if UNI-T fixes any of the problems discovered in this review. At that point, given the specs and the price the UNI-T is probably the best choice when compared to Hantek, Siglent which offer similar meters but higher priced.
@tiagoferreira086
@tiagoferreira086 14 днів тому
@@voltlog Yes let's see how they handle the issues. Honestly i wouldn't go for uni-t over the siglent if i can pay the extra diference, but yes very good for the price if weren't those issues.
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves 16 днів тому
I don't know man - sometimes I trust older well-matained and calibrated gear a lot more than something from China.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
Ok, I get that, trust is important :-) But if you could be sure that a new meter delivers high accuracy results, would you still go for the old one?
@GeorgeGraves
@GeorgeGraves 16 днів тому
@@voltlog hmmm. 9 times out of 10, the older stuff is built better. Goes for a lot of tools. Go buy a new medal file, and then go buy one that is 50 years old at a garage sale.
@gordonemery6949
@gordonemery6949 15 днів тому
Ive seen other videos reviewing these and they had the same problem with the upgrade but I think they had the continuity buzzer 👍
@innfos4634
@innfos4634 15 днів тому
@@GeorgeGraves agreed, a Keithley 2000 or 34401a for ~same price (or less) would be my pick, but this is coming from someone who likes old test equipment. I’m curious what the reference is in this meter though, depending on what it could be worth it to someone who wants a graphical UI. With that said, old equipment usually comes with a nicely aged ovenized reference 😛
@misterjorous
@misterjorous 16 днів тому
Between this and the Hantek HDM3055, I think I would choose the Hantek one, definitely.
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 16 днів тому
Hantek costs a lot more, $600-800. But yes has proper charts and recording.
@misterjorous
@misterjorous 16 днів тому
Around here the UniT UT8805E cost 409,09€ + VAT, while the Hantek HDM3055 cost 453,72 + VAT.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
Specs are very similar, cost is roughly 50 EUR higher for the Hantek at EU distributor eleshop.eu. The Hantek does have rear panel terminals which the UNI-T doesn't have but I'm curious why would you choose the Hantek?
@jaro6985
@jaro6985 15 днів тому
@@voltlog 30ks/s vs 5ks/s, and has graphing and statistical plotting. Looks like they have a 6.5 digit model as well, so I thought the price was a lot higher ($700).
@voltlog
@voltlog 15 днів тому
Indeed that higher sample rate could be useful in some cases and I believe you're right that it's graphing and plotting capability is a bit more advanced on the Hantek.
@kieranj67
@kieranj67 16 днів тому
Great review, thank you
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
Thanks for watching!
@sebastian_harnisch
@sebastian_harnisch 16 днів тому
Thank you for the review and also for pointing out bugs and less than optimal characteristics of the unit as well! More modern DMMs usually have a fan. If I'm not mistaken, for Agilent/Keysight's 6.5 digit multimeters it started with the successor of the 34401A, the 34410A. So it's more a question of the actual implementation than the general fact that it has a fan, but I think this is what you meant anyway. And this is one of the reasons why I still like the 34401As. Changing the fan in this class of an instrument might be an option though. Strange how the meter acquires data both when the green trigger indicator turns on and off. This is not in line with what you see on Agilent/Keysight/Keithley/Siglent DMMs. It might be something worth reporting also imo. I see the Siglent SDM3055 as a strong competitor in this price range. I have two 34401A - and although I like the performance of the meters I would certainly appreciate the modern features of newer equipment.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
Indeed the Siglent SDM3055 seems to have very similar specs and functionality yet UNI-T seem to price theirs 60 EUR lower at least with the EU distributor eleshop.eu so anyone evaluating these two would probably go for the UNI-T as I don't see any advantage to the Siglent.
@sebastian_harnisch
@sebastian_harnisch 15 днів тому
​@@voltlog ​ Because you don't see *any* advantage, which is a bit surprising to me, here are some, without going into the specific functions of the meters - I own neither so I can't really comment on that part without doing a ton of research. 1. Since the Siglent's Bench DMM series is much longer on the market I would expect most of the more critical bugs to be fixed by now. 2. Also a somewhat more, but not completely subjective argument: For now I have a more confidence in Siglent than in the Uni-T bench DMMs, mainly for the following reasons: a) They have a longer history of building this type of equipment, b) the series of DMMs includes higher end 6.5 variants, from which the design of the lower end models *might* profit to a limited degree (I did not research it, so I can't say to which extent or if at all this is the case) c) From what I can see they generally have more experience building higher end equipment than Uni-T (scopes up to 4 GHz, 26.5 GHz spectrum analyzers etc.). That being said, it is an older design that might not represent today's capabilities that I mentioned before. Anyways, Uni-T has to build that trust first, e. g. by supplying firmware updates for the mentioned bugs in a timely manner. The build quality of the power supply you reviewed recently is promising though.
@xConundrumx
@xConundrumx 16 днів тому
I have both old and new meters, an HP 3468A with usb connection (yup, you heard me right), a 34405 and a keithley DMM6500 being some of the ones that have a permanent place on my desk. They all serve specific purposes and are chosen for that reason. I don't compare them because of that reason either. And yes those are not the only ones, I have even got several vacuum tube multimeters (though they get used for repairing equally old stuff).
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
I'm curious how does the HP 3468A have a USB connection? Did you hack it for that?
@MarksGoneWicked
@MarksGoneWicked 16 днів тому
When you mentioned fan noise, I immediately turned on my power supply, a UNI-T UTP305. Yeah, the fan is loud.
@voltlog
@voltlog 16 днів тому
On the other hand the UDP3305S PSU that I reviewed a couple of weeks ago is very quiet, much quieter than the multimeter.