This war bond is totally “meh”

Called the tenderiser, description calls it “higher damage” is worse than the default liberator…..great warbond guys 😒

Pre nerfed for her pleasure!

The tenderiser needs to do more damage otherwise its just another Liberator..

Plummeter is the only good thing and possibly the incendiary impact but that's controversial

I was firing the airburst rocket launcher at a horde one, but then one of the tiny guy flew over right in front of me as I pulled the trigger killing us both because of the airburst.

2 weeks in for me and so far the community have been rock stars, sure you get a dick weed here and there who has the keep the tv loud as fuck while your trying to game or the people who just let the kids scream in the background but that is why they created party chat

Weapons are just shittier versions of existing ones, and the armors look like weird African tribal clay art IMO. I already have cutting edge and democratic detonation so now I’m just considering steeled veterans. If anyone has any advice it’s appreciated, might just wait til next month

The new grenade should be used to stop bug breaches and and to help in defensive positions

Smg was the only decent one, and the purifier feels like a Plasma Slingshot wtf? 😂

AS, the first AS you get it is better, SMG can stun, so is good with bots, impact granade is okay, the deagle, the revolver is still better, energy one, scorcher is still the goat, I hope they buff this weapon, at last the AS, because you can even kill the small bugs with one shot, something that the first AS can do. I just kinda disappointed the snow shite armor is heavy, I was think is medium, sigh.

So Tenderizer = crappy Liberator. Incendiary impact = Impact grenade with fire bonus. Pummeller = slightly worse Defender. Purifier = a crappy Punisher Plasma. In short, these are all really terrible weapons with the exception of the impact incendiary. And even that has caveats as it doesn't have AP like the Thermite version which sticks to enemies and has AP 7. It doesn't seem like this warbond is worth the credits. If the tenderizer had double the capacity it might be a challenger to the Sickle. If the Pummeller has concussive knockback then it might be a challenger to the Defender. If the Purifier had unlimited ammo then it might be a challenger to the Scorcher and Punisher Plasma. But they don't and that puts them all at C and D tiers.

I absolutly regret buying this Warbond.

Light armor penetration has to be the most useless stat in this game

The grenades are what i thought they would be from the first warbond. Some of the boosters feel like they ahould be armor perks and the armor perks are boring and limited because of the boosters!

If the add a unsafe mode to the purifier and a faster reload maybe it could be used as a alternative to the railgun, just one with less armor penetration

The dipshit dev who was the lead in Hello Neighbor 2 and drove it into the ground is the guy working on weapon balance. Let that sink in.

Defender sub seems better. Also, u didn't review the pistol

The tenderizer has the same damage as the liberator, 10 less rounds, very slight less recoil and a lower fire rate than the standard liberator, it’s a straight downgrade from the default gun lmao what a piece of trash.

I was so excited for the tenderizer. After using it, it’s just gonna be another weapon that sits unused.

"We heard you all complaining about the nerfs, so we just released the weapons anemic this time around."

Pummeler: 65 Dmg, 45rds, 7+1 Mags, Recoil: 10, RoF: 475, Light Armor Penetration | 2.925 Dmg per Mag, 515 DPS Defender: 70 Dmg, 45 rds, 7+1 Mags, Recoil 10, RoF: 520, Light Armor Penetration | 3.150 Dmg per Mag, 607 DPS Strictly Stat-wise speaking, the defender is better than the new Pummeler.

The tenderizer from the stats feels like an actual downgrade from the AR23 which everyone already starts with. Same damage, less capacity, and less firerate. It's obsolete on arrival. It's not even a sidegrade, it's just worse.

Isn‘t the tenderizer supposed to be high caliber? I would assume a high caliber AR should have more damage and at least medium armor penetration…

i dont see a reason to use the new smg over the old one. only diff is 5 less dmg on the new one

How sad it is that the goat of the SMGs is worse than the smg we have now 😂😂😂

Cool, the warbond sucks , dont need to buy it

Where is the review for the New pistol?

At least the main gun I was going for, the Pummeler, seems to look pretty good and fun to use. I can't wait to use it-wait, Arrowhead NO! PLEASE NO NERF!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!

Baffling nerfs. Make the weapons fun to use. If they are so worried about making missions hard, then up the health of the enemies and don’t touch the guns unless you’re giving a buff. A pve game should only see nerfs if a weapon was mistakenly made way to powerful and takes no skill to use. Like game breaking powerful

This seems like a pretty welcome addition if you don't play like a psycho bent on sayng evewrything that isn't overpowered sucks

The stuff look nice but i don't care for most of it. I think i should of went for the dragonbreath shotgun. I do like the dark armor the pass offers but it's heavy.. and even tho it's highest rating i still get 1-shot so.... I'll just stick with my Counter Sniper. Damn goat for bots.

I want them to make all the weapons super buffed, so i can always win every mission in the highest difficulty and quickly get bored of the entire game. Y'all negative whiny idiots.

I wonder who at ArrowHead balancing the tenderizer thought he was doing a favor for the hallucination of a group of players that said, “I like the Liberator, but it kicks WAY too much and six mags isn’t enough!”

9:35 englishman rediscovers sten gun

Fire granades don't work. other weapons sucks... only good thing is the motivational shocks

Biggest criticism. The best fun factor doesn’t come from using one weapon. That’s unfun and boring. The fun factor comes from using multiple weapons and stratagem for different scenario, to constantly be switching and manage resources for each weapon. If you’re not constantly switching weapons, managing your stratagems cooldown, and using specific stratagems for specific situation, then you’re already unknowingly destroying all the fun of the game. Me watching you use only weapon to try and do everything makes the game look like the most boring game ever. Therefore, to actually assess the fun of the weapons, you need to also include the loadout. The gun needs to be fun in certain scenarios and when the scenario shifts, you must feel forced to switch strategies and stratagems. That’s the ultimate fun in the game, the fun zone, and to reach that level, you need to be a skillful player or willing to get better at the game. Reviewing a weapon on an individual factor and testing it in every scenario, then you find out it doesn’t work in those scenarios is no way to test the weapon. Test the weapon at what it’s best at, then create your loadout that compensates for each other’s weaknesses. Otherwise you’re not doing any weapon a favor. Any weapons that breaks that flow and doesn’t force the player to switch strategies is OP and needs to be nerfed. The last weapon was poorly tested because you didn’t take it in scenarios where it excel. Instead you ran in expecting it to behave like a shotgun when you should be switching to the stalwart or fighting from a distance away. You’re basically ruining your own fun.

If every warbond introduced OP weapons then we would reach a point where every new gun would have to one-shot everything (power creep). This warbond is fine.

The SMG has more dmg, capacity and higher fire rate than the AR. I dont get the math here. Tenderiser needs more dmg or mag capacity. I dont know why are the devs obsessed with small mags.

Ballistic shield on bugs is wild

First 2 pages of weapons are solid, but this is pre nerfed 😐😐

In my opinion give ARs extra 15 ammo per mag, and give them 10-15 extra dmg, rn the ARs are very underwelming which idk how you do that in a shooter game. i will be sticking with my sickle until they learn how to make guns good

I really like the Tenderizer. I do agree it could use more ammo but I understand why it doesn’t. If you have it more ammo then the normal Lib would be irrelevant

SMG is decent, rest is mediocre and need some QA tuning

The fact that the tenderizer was advertised as I higher caliber weapon, but it's only light armor pen is wild

Sad fact about the tenderizer. It's a downgrade of the base liberator. Same damage, same pen, but liberator has 10 more rounds per mag and shoots faster.

META is so unnecessary in a PvE game. I don't want to be mean, but if you're one of those guys that kicks people for not using META stuff, get a grip. It's a video game, let people have fun. Like many other people have already noted, the balancing feels like they are treating the weapon sandbox like a PvP game, even though it is PvE. So the aggressive nerfs for a lot of the guns feel really bad and it makes using them less fun overall. I feel like if they want us to use a variety of guns, they should buff all of the ohter guns, so that they can compete with the S-Tier weapons. Make the Scythe an actual alternative to the sickle. Like how they buffed the Liberator to pull it from the Sickles shadow. Just some minor adjustments to the balance philosophy for this game could make a huge difference for the enjoyment of the playerbase. I hope we will see some positive change and a wave of buffs for most weapons in this game.

The purifier is much better for bots, it's naturally not that good against bugs due to the charge up time. Don't know why this was only tested on bugs....

I just got the regular scorcher last week so I was hoping the new one doesn't just outright beat it defeating the purpose of the old scorcher. Now if they have us a scorcher sidearm that would've been goated

'If it had a bigger mag, it would be way more fun'. Nah mate, not allowed.