nice to see you here!

A country invented the Internet. This is what happened to its print industry

Shame that magazines never made a full recovery ;)

Emia, meaning presence in blood.

didn't expect to see you here

Similar to steam engines being more popular for showing off the actual process of locomotion, I foresee LCD braided cables animating a depiction of the flow of data in conjunction with LCDs on CPU, GPU, chips et and memory.

I will say. A display of temperature on a cpu cooler, keyboard, etc. Has a functional use. A relatively massive display which functioned as just any other display hidden behind a plastic cover for your drives, that's a lot harder to find a functional use for

@@kuyans3889 Wrong,it is *_even more_* useless.

@@kuyans3889 they’re not useless. Temperature readouts provide practical use. Plus, the display is actively visible and not hidden behind a plastic drive cover

@@kadragon3764 ..... What do you think the displays did? They were generally for temp/fanspeed readouts, with programs similar to rainmeter to set the display. Touchscreen display would also function as a quick fanspeed/oc controller. They were just ahead of their time.

That's how I overclocked mine, thanks for the memory!

Wow. Amazing the things you would risk for a little more speed.

Wow man. That's totally old school. I remember taking that Celeron 300 and overclocking it to a $1000 600mhz cpu. Oh the good old days.

Imagine someone telling you they overclocked their CPU with a crayon and or pencil and then finding out it was true

i still have one of those here. Was my first own PC. Never did OC myself cause i was too young but i read about it.

BREAKING: Linus Sebastian, Coworkers Die in Mysterious Boiler Explosion. More at 10!

I just watched this video on a system cooled by a Zalman Reserator 1 Plus. The pump has been running almost non-stop for around 14 years and it is still as quiet as it was when it was new. If you can ever get a used one, you should. This kit still screams quality. When was the last time you saw actual mirror-finish gold-plated water block? Even the silicone hoses are holding up great.

I think he turned his pool into a Resorator.

modern cases still have the holes that look like soda lids with the rubber covers that have the slits in them.

@@TyrDrum - only in the summertime. During the winter, he just sticks his PC in the window he just sticks his PC out the window because nothing can cool a system quicker than a Canadian winter!

Yo this legit needs to be a video. Would love to watch something ridiculous like that. Especsially after watching that video about that super old water cooling kit a few months back.

Hell yeah, that would be wild to cool 250W CPU with those babies

I use a modified car radiator in much the same way as an external radiator. Works great as long as you never have to move the computer. Carrying both the computer and the radiator is very awkward.

External radiators used to mount on top of the pc, they were pretty cool

No video needed, I still have a pair in use today. One isn't really able to tame a modern CPU under load without the addon fan but then they always needed that to tame high end CPUs, anything over 100w would/will throttle eventually as the coolant gets up to temp (and it takes a while as there's a lot of it). I have two of them plumbed in parallel (never link them in series) currently cooling a 5950X, a 6800XT and an Asrock X570 Aqua motherboard with the aid of a 240mm slim rad (the fans only turn on under heavy load, outside of gaming the reserators can cool the system fine).

He should start a channel just for this

@@deviantv1ral Hmmm something like Linus Tech Tips??

@@kornkernel2232 Linus Retro Tips

This should be a weekly episode.

Is this a troll post? Pretty sure MPC died about 3-5 years ago. If they still exist they are almost impossible to find online.

@@Starscreamious The very first result of a google search is a place to subscribe to them. They are still active in print.

@@Starscreamious i was subbed from 2019-2021 when i first got into pcs; they're still doing just fine.

@@SappyJupiter37 I feel like I'm being trolled.

@@Starscreamious I still have my subscription going! but the lack of an online presence is because their website merged / was taken over by PCGamer

There's one right outside your house?

same here, and they lighting looks great!! 💛 bet it took a sec to get down

That's in the Sun Room with camera pointing outdoor out the large windows. Not the best lighting setup to be back lit but they somehow made it work.

tbh iam happy we dont live in the times of those over the top designs any more. And that you can get a good lets say neutral looking case with good airflow without having to sell a kidney.

Also the early Windows 8 era where manufactures made wild and wacky 2 in 1 laptops. Especially that asus "4 in 1" where they had both windows 8 and android on one device.

I also appreciated Adam's insightful comments about Half-Life vs. Doom vs. Quake, and the significance of USB. Good dialog between the two - this could easily have degenerated into "young = stupid" or "uphill both ways in the snow", but didn't.

Ah I still have a few of their demo cd's. Loved those.

The demos were the best part of the gaming magazines

And I guess Linus forgot the "L" for high school. Or maybe this video was sponsored by the letter "L" lol

@@sakenu16 he's too cool for L

Oh, them demo CDs ... that brings back memories

@@mandelbro777 It does still have a few.

@@adhilahammed4085 yeah

@@adhilahammed4085 yeah

that baby is like 20 now

I'm not sure how they could pull that off without someone getting cut by the case.

Crazy to think that baby is in college now.

Schrodinger's Estimation

nothings changed in that aspect, other than the fact its more public so it cant be buried or spun as easily as say... The huge antitrust legal fights between IBM and MS over the OS market throughout the 80s and 90s.

@@ArtOfTheRamble I don't know what you mean there, antitrust cases would be between the government and companies, not between each other. The only entry IBM ever had in the PC OS market was OS/2 (not to be confused with Microsoft's OS/2).

And don't forget the speakers making a noise before you cordless phone or cell phone rang.

Watching this video and reading your comment made me realize that it used to be a normal thing to have CPU noises when moving the mouse. I was wondering if this was a sign that an old pc I got was dying 😆

I still had that like.. a year ago? Since my first PC up until recently that mouse movement buzz was always there, because I always used on board audio with analogue output. Different motherboards had little effect but different cases did (I think it was a grounding issue?) But now I've finally ditched analogue for digital output - HDMI carries my speaker signal and bluetooth APTX for headphones

@@Tigerskunk *tic-tic-tic-tic* RINNNNGG!!!

Yeah, and now even very fast m.2 drives aren't particularly expensive

Have you ever looked at LGR? Shows lots of older hardware.

From trying to promote/advertise for his former computer parts supplies company, he has gone through hell and highwater to get to where he is at, he should be able to remember up the tech that we now forget, because God our brains are not built to remember planned and obsoleted products of the bygone era. That I can still remember two desktop PCs that myself and my siblings had (both are Acer Aspire computers, released 8 years apart, one was a 1997 Pentium MMX 200Mhz, the other was a 2006 Athlon XP 64 of indeterminate GHz) meant that I still have some capacity to explain to new generation, of a time we were so hyped over new tech, because the Asian Financial Crisis and the Great Recession were shit crises that we had to cope and seethe through if we don't want to fall into despair and suicide.

Passion and enthusiasm really helps with remembers the small details.

Yep this proves how much he really established LTT through hardwork and actually knowledge and skills. He wasn't all about memes.

By 2018, he literally has the money to settle down and let LTT run on its own with the writers and producers. He'll still be earning lots of money to this day but he chose to be an engaging CEO by leading the company, writing his own scripts and does his own research for his videos and still has a lot of screen time. He loves his passion in reviewing tech and giving tips to everyone. That's why he's successful and well-respected in the community because his commitment to his passion.

he forgot people/ things easily. his head is full of PC hardware names.

Man I have been trying to download all the No BS podcast but can't find them all. There are some on UKposts and stitcher, but the earlier episodes aren't readily available. I know they were on the CD ROM that came with each magazine, but I can't get them downloaded. :(

@@HAFBeast91 Well, the internet archive comes to the rescue! It seems it has all the episodes from the show starting with the very first one in September 2012 with Will Smith (who was the Editor-in-Chief at the time and later went to "Giant Bomb" and "Tested") and Gordon. Just Google "maximum pc no bs podcast archive" and the Internet Archive link should be the first result. Later on in the show's run, Gordon created a skit called "Gordon Mah Ung's rant of the week" that was absolutely epic (with some definitely not "family friendly" language😂)!!!

Maximum PC actually started around the same time as AnandTech (1997) and Tom's Hardware (1996). Maximum PC was originally named "boot" and it launched in early 1996. They renamed to Maximum PC in 1998. I remember seeing the first issue of boot on the magazine stand and was blown away. I even wrote in a question (that got published) to the ask the editors section asking if they would ever start reviewing motherboards, because they were reviewing pre-builts and add-in cards in the beginning. This was in contrast to AnandTech and Tom's Hardware who were reviewing motherboards in the early days. You could argue about whether Anandtech and Tom's Hardware were "popular", but in those days they were very popular with the enthusiast community and we would talk about them in the hardware newsgroups.

@@benw3768 Oh, I know AnandTech and Tom's Hardware are pioneers and have been around for the longest time... But back in the 90's, getting online was actually difficult even for many PC enthusiasts (dial-up on 56 baud was still a bit of a luxury! XD). And that's why computer magazines were way more popular than websites. That all changed in the 2000's of course, as more and more people had access to broadband. It was actually pretty brave of Future Publishing to continue to print Maximum PC and PC Gamer (both PC Magazine from Ziff Davis and PC World from IDG, for example, stopped printing years ago).

I guess this channel (and other tech channels like it) are similar in that respect; it's just enthusiasm about tech in general that draws eyes, even if most won't ever see the items IRL.

I can't afford probably 99% of the tech LTT showcase but I like watching it when i want to tune out life.

Back then you couldn't open up YT and watch infinite tech you can't afford for free. The magazines were the only way you'd even know this exist, so that is why.

nah when you built your machine you were happy with it and might upgrade one or two parts, but the hobby was all around very accessible $$$ wise when these were printed. Now in the 90's it was far more like that.. think about it, how much different really is your current noctua cooler than the one shown here?

That magazine was litterly LTT in printed form. We didn't have UKposts back then.

True

"Get off my Lawn" -me, who is old and curmudgeonly.

What year are they talking about. I was born 1998 and was a lil kid then if they talk about 2004

EGM was the best. Great reviews… Hsu and Chan… Seanbaby… Psycho Letter of the Month!!

@@coprographia I LOVED the psycho letter lmao. Such a throw back.

Sushi-X!!

EGM was awesome. I would get a gift subscription every year for my birthday as a kid and it was the best gift I got every year

Dude. I hope you have that framed on your wall or something.

yeah, this video is awesome.

Huh? I still get the physical magazine every month.

@Michael Skinner tweets

@@FakeChannel4 Agreed, wondering why everyone is acting as if Maximum PC magazine no longer exists

💯💯💯

Maximum PC is still in print, you can have it mailed to your house

@@Cyberso1 Print and Digital or both if you really want too!

Game pro

SCSI, the name I haven't heard for probably a decade now... Yeah, good riddance.

Don't feel too old. It was 1987 for me... 😋

Friend got P166 too, I waited year and bought 333mhz Celeron overclocked to 416mhz, what an upgrade..

@@jirkak5998 I remember we definitely got a P2 266 (MMX!) after that. Every generation would be a crazy jump in performance. I also remember buying a Voodoo 2 add-on card and thinking it was surely going to be the most expensive graphics card I was ever going to buy - how naïve I was...

Yeah back then when they still made books for PC stuff like that.

@@mrn234 Yep like the Dummies Guide to "Whatever" and the copycat Idiots Guide to "Whatever" with many of them being tech based. I've seen so many of them at my local Goodwill stores over the years, and reading them brings back so many memories of people asking me the most basic computer questions, as living in a small southern US town, I was, and still am a lot of times the goto tech person.

The magazine is still around. I've been subscribed for years

They were still available at microcenter free until a year or two ago. (three?)

@@firesurfer It's still published, and you can get it in Kindle format, but it's not the same as it once was, as the magazine just does not have the charm it once did.

@@CommodoreFan64 I was referring to the hard copy.

@@firesurfer But of course, I was just saying it's also in Kindle format as well as physical, but no matter what format you choose it's still not the great magazine it once was.

@@CommodoreFan64 That's pretty much a given.

Okay boomer

@@Paddy-zn4oo Gen X actually, boomers are before us.

You missed out on all the huge year over year gains though, and the times before bloated software was common. Upgrading every 1-2 years for twice the performance was incredible, and during each upgrade cycle, everything you previously used would then load instantly. No SSDs needed. Overclocks could get you 30-50% gains easily. PCs also had "personalities" - they didn't just "work" (mostly just IRQs or RAM/videocard compatibility issues on a motherboard), but they were amazing when tuned in. Things you saw at a lan party were custom built - not some mass produced generic product from China. Watercooling loops? Better break out the drill press and a block of copper, attach to a car radiator or heatercore - cooling that could be silent, and worked far better than off the shelf products today. The last 15-20 years have been quite bland (since core2 really, but things started to slow after the 1GHz race was over, and after 256-bit memory bus videocards). There's nothing special about computers anymore - we just get marginal gains at stupid prices, so computers now are "just" computers. Everything is the same. Very little reason to buy new hardware, or even upgrade operating systems. This is just the world we live in today though - there's never new or exciting for any products. All minor iterations of goods, and because of that, planned obsolescence of most products to keep people buying more of the same. Sorry you missed out on the prime years of maturing computers. Sounds like Linus also missed the best years, which were largely before 2000. I'm roughly the same age as Linus though, so not sure why he was such a late bloomer ;)

@@masejoer I feel like your comment here has a bit of a bitter smell to it. My first PC was a 100 mhz P1, so not quite early, but eh. This personality thing was mostly annoying imo, even then. Because you had to be quite deep in the materials to know what Interrupts, DMA channels and such were. It's true that things moved quite a bit faster then and now we hype about few percent performance increases. But that things you saw at lan parties was all custom stuff? Many still bought prebuilts at the time, nobody needs that gatekeeping nonsense. Personally I never owned a prebuilt, it was all always assembled from things that existed around because my dad was large in computers. Had an Amiga from him, don't know who of my parents threw it out at some point... Would have loved to still have it. Most of my fun was just exchanging games with friends and getting upgrades to my PC now and then. I never really joined the hardcore tweakers anyway.

​ @sinni800 Nothing bitter imo - those growing up with PCS from the last 15 or so years just missed the "exciting" times of pc tech where we always had new things to play with, incredible speed increases, and before PCs in general become commonplace and part of our everyday life. Perhaps we'll get some of that again with some future breakthrough, but noteworthy new innovations are rare now. I'd say the 80's to 90's were the computer industry's teens to 20's of life, then we hit a solid stride around 2005, which would be tech's 30's. Things were starting to go well with some steadiness, and we still explored and experienced some new things over time. Now tech is well into mid-life and every few years something minor, but neat, comes along; but for the most part, we're in a long rut. Now it feels more like things may have shifted into their 50's, if not early 60's; we're seeing industry pain points, hostility from the mainstream tech conglomerates, excessive software bloat and stagnation, limited hardware performance gains. There's little reason to upgrade, so some parts of the tech industry have embraced planned obsolescence. Many people would prefer the later "years" of their lives for a variety of reasons, but without experiencing your childhood through 20's, you wouldn't have anything to compare your later years to, nor would you experience most of those "firsts" later in life. Same case here - one can't knock on tech's early years if they weren't there for it. The time was amazing. I'm sure it was even better for those who were older, and could appreciate it (and afford it) more than I did. I can only imagine, and listen to stories about, what things were like before my time. As for "personalities" - tech did indeed have them. There were so many "standards" that some games or apps only supported certain graphics cards, certain sound cards, etc. Depending on what you built, that controlled what you could run. Getting a different pc 1-2 years later and opening up a whole new world of content was amazing. For sure things are far BETTER today, but there is nothing noteworthy with product releases. It's all the same thing we've seen time and time again. Perhaps you can buy some new feature that some reviewer/"influencer" (marketing) claims you must get in a new video card so you can view some tiny graphical change in a game, but a lot of these things are chasing minor additions to hardware, not anything groundbreaking. The lack of "new and exciting" is what the op missed out on, and I feel bad that so many will never experience the thrill of the innovations and speed boosts that were seen in computer tech's past. You can't buy anything today that will give you an experience like that again. -- Unrelated, but I can list out all kinds of standard things that were terrible in the past though: Cases, sharp, horrible...and AT Ball mice (Intellimouse Explorer ftw) Motherboard jumpers IDE cable fire (RIP 30MB Seagate 5.25" hdd) "Affordable"/cheap 14-15" crt monitors Tiny heatsinks/fan noise Capacitor plague ISA soundcard noise floor "multimedia speakers" before the late 90's CDROM seek speed MSI brand in late 90's etc... Many things were bad, but so much was so good.

I'm waiting for more.... probably won't get it but please linus just listen and make like a 2hr thing of this

That's a nice story ^^

It was so unergonomic though, I see good riddance.

@@Sjoerd1993 depends on the hight of your desk. Mine is hight adjustable so when I have a tray I'll simply set it a bit higher to compensate 👍🏻

Voodoo 2 SLI golden age then TNT2 came a long with 32bit color!

Far as I can recall from my Windows 2000 days, most games played perfectly fine. Windows 2000 supported DirectX 9.0c, as did Windows 98, ME, and XP, so 2000 could game just as hard as the rest. The real reason Windows NT, including Windows 2000, garnered a bad reputation for gaming and home use was because Windows NT 4.0 only supported up to DirectX 3.0a (yes, you read that right, DirectX 3), and that reputation tainted the NT name with home users until Windows XP came along and mostly ditched the NT marketing. Over in the professional world, Windows NT 4.0 likewise received a bad reputation because WDM drivers weren't a thing yet. The world was still running on VxD driver which were not available on the NT kernel, much less Windows NT 4.0 which required drivers written specifically for it. Windows 2000 formally standardized drivers for the NT kernel to WDM drivers and by that time most hardware vendors had gotten the message to standardize, and Windows 2000 is thus fondly remembered as a solid bedrock for businesses and enthusiasts alike. In a way, the whole saga of Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 was kind of like Windows Vista and Windows 7. Windows NT 4.0 was too far ahead of its time and didn't click with consumers; Windows 2000 (and also XP in consumerland) recovered the reputation. As an aside, while we all look back fondly on Windows XP now, for the longest time most of us hated on it because of how bloated it was for the time. Windows ME is also not without its share of pioneering advancements, ME brought us System Restore and was the first real step towards moving away from DOS in consumerland.

I ended up getting a copy of Windows 2000 from a Microsoft event and used it as my sole os for years. I didn't get XP until XP service pack two. It gamed just fine :)

@@Dalewyn Kinda scary that I am STILL running a Windows 2000 Server/Workstation systems for the last 20+ YEARS because one older piece of VERY VERY IMPORTANT Aerospace Systems software is STILL being run in one of our offices and has only been 50% ported over to C++ after all these years! AND one of my buddies kept his DEC VAX-9000 mainframe system from his Calgary Oil'n'Gas reservoir modeling days in 1988 (it was Four Million USD at the time!) and it's STILL running COBOL-coded fast trading software that is originally from an IBM System/360 minicomputer from 1965 but ported to VAX VMS Operating System! It's been piecemeal ported over to JAVA only starting within the last five years! I should note he is a multimillionaire because of that ancient COBOL-coded commodities trading software though! Those coders of yesterday REALLY KNEW how to design and program unbreakable code that works 24/7/365 !!! V

You are right that NT 4.0 was worse since the video was in ring zero. It WAS a long time ago too. But it might also be the mix of games. I was still playing XCOM, Star Control, and Masters of Magic and Masters of Orion at the time. These were all DOS legacy games that probably did not like being smooshed into a protected memory environment. Nonetheless, XP still represents the culmination of that multiyear project by Microsoft to unify the two different product lines, which was my main point. On the point of bloat, I have no doubt that it was flabby compared to Win2k, but I remember it running well with 256MB during the beginning of its life cycle, when by the end, it was getting laggy with less than 1GB of RAM. It was still superior with 1GB though than any of its successors, so there is that.

Mmmmm... Computer Shopper... mmmmm...

Back in the good old days when computer shopper was like 600+ pages.

Gateway... was that the "cow box" computer? Or am I thinking of something else?

@@StrixyN That’s correct. I still use one of their cow colored cardboard boxes as a trash can..

Do you remember reading about water cooling before it was a consumer product? I remember reading about how you can get some old refrigerator copper tubing and make your own with some soldering skills. Tell me I wasn't crazy.

My first PC was in 2006 to play TES: Oblivion. I also discovered Morrowind around that time. My 11 year-old mind was blown.

@@Vel_Plays_2.0 In my case it was Neverwinter Nights 2. Part 1 came for the Mac and hooked me up to it's online play, part two then was PC-only and all my coop friends of course switched over, leaving me alone in the dust. :D

@@caffeinesippingman I had a watercooler in 2000, when I was 14 (I'm as old as Linus). It used a completely custom waterblock made by a local craftsman, it used a Rio 1400 110V AC aquarium water pump which was insanely powerful (once I accidentally turned it on without the hoses, it spilled water in the roof), the water reservoir was a plastic cookie jar with two holes drilled for the hoses. The radiator was cutout from a car. All the hoses and nipples were "kitchen-oven standard" (I believe it's 3/4"?) and you could find it in any hardware store. The system was massive and had to lay outside the case. I still have pictures of this entire watercooling system. I used that to cool a Coppermine Pentium 3. Later on, I upgraded my waterblock to a Danger Den TEC copper waterblock. Danger Den was a big name enthusiast watercooling brand back in the day. This block had a built-in thermal plate that allowed you to install a TEC (also known as Peltier) - a gimmick from the early 2000's that allowed you to achieve sub-zero temperatures, by then, I was running Athlon XPs. I have a video of it "idling" at -3C, with the entire thermal plate white from the ice forming around it.

A fancy radiator, that stacks on top of a case. With tubing inside it's feet's, so no outside tubes are visible.

@@timmy7201 *It's not the "visibility" of tubes I'm worried about, it's the increased risk to other components if a leak should happen, that I'm trying to avoid. But the cooling stack should be fully modular, in that I should be able to position it wherever I want, Above, Below, Side-to Side, Front or Back, every setup and every space is different, let the customer decide.*

@@SamskaraOrigin If you want to avoid water damage due to possible leaks, let gravity decide and put the radiator underneath the case... :-) There will always be some risk, as long as there are two tubes filled with water going towards the CPU and/or GPU... The only way to fully avoid water damage, is to design a radiator that attaches to the CPU and/or GPU thermally, using copper heat-pipes instead of tubes filled with water... But then it's more some kind of over-sized passive cooler, rather than a true radiator...

@@timmy7201 *I agree that gravity feed is king, "but", we always want positive pressure on the affected/over-heating area. Maybe we combine tubing of different materials (what heats up faster than copper? Attach it to the end of copper so that it leeches heat from that tubing, and then sends it to a cooling tower/radiator-type set up? There are also NON-TOXIC (very important) fluids that don't act like fluids (bad example: neutonian fluids) something that "can't leak", but still flows easily so that it cycles, heats evenly. I'm done with this conversation however, regrettably I've been data-mined too many times for my taste, if they (devs) want million dollar ideas, they'll have to pay me as a consultant. "good convo though, Timmy, hope you have a good day"*

@@SamskaraOrigin What's with the bold font?