Best Power Meter On A Budget? 4iiii Precision Crank Arm Power Meter

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Patrick Lino

Patrick Lino

День тому

First look at 4iiii's Precision 2 single-sided crank arm based power meter. Yes the Precision 3 was just announced, but at $299 USD the Precision 2 might be your best option on a budget.
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КОМЕНТАРІ: 101
@paulmorrison30
@paulmorrison30 2 роки тому
Another great vid bro✊🏾. I have this power meter on a few of my bikes and it is absolutely perfect, I have had no issues whatsoever and the readings have been consistent with my Wahoo Kickr. I’d definitely buy another should the need arises ✊🏾👊🏾……….keep exposing yourself 💪🏾
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
I’m gonna pin this comment thanks!
@brianffar
@brianffar 2 роки тому
That sounds like a great deal! I just picked up the Favero Assioma Duo-Shi for under $500 new. Great to see the price on PMs dropping all over the place and becoming more accessible. Hope to see you out on the road this summer, Patrick.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Likewise Brian! Jealous you found those $500 brand new. I imagine it’s gonna cost 150-250 to repair/service my pair 😩
@iang2868
@iang2868 2 роки тому
Patrick well done another informative video 👍🏽
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Thanks Ian! Thanks for popping in!
@danielhebert3528
@danielhebert3528 2 роки тому
I just had my 4iiii dual crankset installed. Can't wait to try it outside.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Let me know the consistency with both left and right power readings!
@danielhebert3528
@danielhebert3528 2 роки тому
@@PatrickLino I will do my best to figure it out. I am technologically challenged lol. A few have asked about it. I will do some research this week on how i can figure it out. It would be very interesting to see.
@BreceLuu
@BreceLuu 2 роки тому
I've got the 105 version for almost for 2 years now. Bought it for 200€ new, you can't beat the value you get for your money. Never had a problem with it indoors or outdoors (about 14000km). Now that I have a smart trainer, the numbers are pretty close. Just make sure to recalibrate it now and then when the temperature changes a lot. I would recommend to tape it with black electro tape around the battery cap if you ride in the rain just to be on the safe side.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Great advice, thanks Brece!
@drunkencarygrant
@drunkencarygrant 2 роки тому
The 4iiii single sided crank arm power meters are a great option. I've got Favero Assioma dual sided power meter pedals that I use on my road bikes, but I wanted something inexpensive for my gravel bike and found the 4iiii GRX crank arm was a really nice and inexpensive option for me. Works flawlessly and appears to be pretty accurate.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Good stuff. I like having the ability to quick swap out the crank arm to other bikes.
@havefunandbikestuff
@havefunandbikestuff Рік тому
Good review. I digg that, straight to the point. And new subscriber right here 💯
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
Thanks for watching!
@galenkehler
@galenkehler 2 роки тому
Spot on with the assessment of the value of single-sided for training. Even if you're a super pro, a single-sided meter is all you need for training so long as the readings it gives are accurate.
@galenkehler
@galenkehler 2 роки тому
And the money you save can go towards something else that will make you faster!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Like PEDs! 💉 🩸
@daniellucente4409
@daniellucente4409 2 роки тому
Excellent video. Thanks for stepping us through the removal and installation. I just purchased the same one direct from 4iiii. Didn’t know about the version 3. My power meter is on its way from Canada. Is there an alternate to the shimano tool you used? I don’t have it. If it is needed then I will have to use my LBS to install mine once it arrives. I have Ultegra on my Canyon Ultimate CF SL. Rim brake for life😂
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Disc brake for life (now!) 🤣 - I dont think there is an alternative to that Shimano tool, but its inexpensive. Probably like $5-$10.
@RudiDwiHartanto
@RudiDwiHartanto 2 роки тому
My guy love this kind of content, most people dont need dual sided power meter bcs single sided is more than enough.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Totally agreed! It’s enough to properly train with
@KushPizzaSleep
@KushPizzaSleep Рік тому
I have had mine since 2017, no issues!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
Great to hear!
@danieltull3622
@danieltull3622 2 роки тому
Great vid. I only have the wahoo power meter, but as the weather gets nicer I want one for outside. Not sure if you have heard of coospo, (a cheaper brand) but they are looking at making a power meter. When it comes out you should do a review
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Nice! Do you have a link!
@EddieRyce
@EddieRyce 2 роки тому
I've had this for 2 years now and it is bomb proof and works.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Awesome! That’s what we wanna hear 🤟🏾
@chadleever492
@chadleever492 3 місяці тому
I am new to all this and wondering if this item would work to monitor vo2 max using a Garmin watch. Thanks!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 3 місяці тому
If your watch uses Ant+ or Bluetooth it should. But it’s best to check both the Garmin and 4iii website for specific details 👍🏾
@lastpme
@lastpme 2 роки тому
I think the battery should have been on the other side to make it easy to replace when the battery dies. Another great video 👍🏿
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Not the most convenient location, but safe from crashes and scuffs.
@GrouEEf
@GrouEEf 2 роки тому
The 4iiii worked great for me for about a year. It then started to show nonsense numbers unfortunately. The scaling also got messed up: I used my kickr for adjustment. 200w and matched them evenly. After 10 mins the 4iiii then showed 170 w ...
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Interesting. Will report back!
@williamsweet6476
@williamsweet6476 2 роки тому
Would be interested in your thoughts between this PM and your Quarq. Those are the two options im in between now
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
If you have the budget, and dual sided reading is important…get the Quarq.
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому
I have 2 of these power meters on both of my bikes (an R7000 and an R8000 one). Like you, I got my R8000 one days before the v3 announcement (but I paid full price lol). The 800h of the v3 would be nice, but I'm happy with the v2. It's an excellent power meter.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Agreed! Since this wont be my "main" power meter, the 100h isn't a huge deal. But 800h would be awesome. Not sure how they even were able to engineer such better battery life.
@NeutralGenericUser
@NeutralGenericUser 2 роки тому
@@PatrickLino Ya, 800h seems extremely impressive, and the v3 has a status LED whereas the v2 doesn't 🤔
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
@@NeutralGenericUser 🤔😮
@dylantodd9574
@dylantodd9574 Рік тому
I'm returning to cycling after about a 9 year hiatus after retiring from racing. We used Stages on on my last team (single sided) and we didn't have an issue. We when compared with an SRM or Quarq the differences were marginal and didn't impact out training. This is a new company and I'd be interested to see how it stacks up against a stages.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
I still prefer my Quarq DFour spider based meter as well as my PowerTap pedals. However this still gets the job done and has been great on my gravel setup
@dylantodd9574
@dylantodd9574 Рік тому
@@PatrickLino We used those for a while before and after sram purchased them. It was fine, but there was no way to swap out chain rings when we would go between stage races and crits. I didn't like that.
@JFomo
@JFomo 2 роки тому
I that 4iiii crank too and it's been great, highly recommended for anyone starting out. NOTE: You will need a bike computer! 4iiii does not link to Strava. It can upload files to Strava but they are not very detailed. Get yourself a Wahoo Bolt v2 computer.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Great advice! Wahoo Bolt V2 user here 🙋🏾‍♂️
@HarishChouhan
@HarishChouhan Рік тому
I got the Ultegra left crank Precision model and 210 Euros yesterday which is good deal as long it works :). Now have to wait 3 weeks to get it delivered.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
Let me know how it goes!
@okreidieh
@okreidieh 2 роки тому
I have had a single sided and a dual sided. Why I prefer the dual sided even though my left / right balance is good? Because if one of them goes haywire then I will know because the left/right balance will be way off.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Great point!
@samuraioodon
@samuraioodon 2 роки тому
Hi Patrick, off topic, what’s the scruff mark on your frame near crankarm?
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
I requested my Dengfu upon ordering to be delivered unpainted, unfinished, and kept in its raw carbon condition. The scuff is actually the connection point where the chainstays are bonded to the bottom bracket and downtube from the molding process. Most frames will have this visible blemish prior to factory paint. In my case, I painted the frame myself using transparent glitter paint and a clearcoat to deliberately maintain the raw blemishes. Hope this helps.
@samuraioodon
@samuraioodon 2 роки тому
@@PatrickLino oh cool ok thank you. Thanks for the review too. Considering it for my gravel. I have the original p1 pedals, love double sided data readings but want to save money, think this is a good choice!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
@@samuraioodon Now that my P2 pedals are back from warranty service I'm using them on this bike again, and the 4iiii single-sided is on my gravel bike permanently. It's a great value, accurate data, and I don't really need dual power on a gravel/adventure bike.
@samuraioodon
@samuraioodon Рік тому
@@PatrickLino hi Patrick, over the past month I’ve seen precision gen 3 as a not so great option. I probably won’t get it. I might consider gen 2 like what you have but not sure about clearance. I’m still waiting for my gravel frame to be here…it’s been 4 months… so frustrating to wait this long.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
@@samuraioodon The production and logistic delays can be disappointing. Hopefully you have other bikes to ride in the meantime?
@DontGetDroppedCycling
@DontGetDroppedCycling 2 роки тому
Look at that hatttttttt T.DOT! Been thinking about one of these crank arms to put back the Look pedals and save those grams 🤣
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Wore it for youuuuuu!
@okreidieh
@okreidieh 2 роки тому
Can you tell us the weight difference between a setup like this and say a Garmin pedals system?
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
How much do the Garmin pedals weigh?
@nathansantos.n8
@nathansantos.n8 Рік тому
how long do one of those batteries last on regular use?
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
SRAM says: "60 riding hours on a full charge."
@johnaldred6864
@johnaldred6864 2 роки тому
Nice one .. 👍
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Thanks John!
@Dustii91
@Dustii91 Рік тому
Due to the sheer cost, looks like my only metric is going to be my zwift😅!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
🤣🤣🤣
@cryora
@cryora Рік тому
Darn my right leg is probably my stronger leg, because I always have it clipped in, while the left serve as a stand when I am stopped. Which means when I have to go and can't get my left leg clipped in on time I rely solely on my right leg to power until I can.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
lol
@BornInArona
@BornInArona 7 місяців тому
around 400 bucks isn´t cheap, it´s crazy how much this little and cheap device costs!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 7 місяців тому
I bought mine on sale for less than $300
@BornInArona
@BornInArona 7 місяців тому
@@PatrickLino epic 🙈
@manueldeubler1127
@manueldeubler1127 2 роки тому
Damn bro, 4iiii screwed you 😄. But I have one these myself and I would not hesitate to buy another one if I had to.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
They couldn’t email a brotha like: “Yo just wait two more days!” 🤡
@williamcorrea1082
@williamcorrea1082 Рік тому
I can link it with a Garmin 530?
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
Not sure, I use a Wahoo Bolt V2 🤷🏾‍♂️
@williamcorrea1082
@williamcorrea1082 Рік тому
@@PatrickLino Thanks, I will check, hope it works
@TheSnifmister
@TheSnifmister 6 місяців тому
Third leg 😂😂😂. Thanks for the video.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 6 місяців тому
🤣🤣🤣
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
What is your favorite power meter, and why?
@SolomonOtoo
@SolomonOtoo 2 роки тому
Favero Assioma Uno is great! Only downside was having to switch from SPD-SL cleats to Look cleats. For people that have SRAM AXS road groupset, the SRAM Rival AXS crankset power meter is pretty good. Been using it for a couple of weeks and it has been great. It weighs a ton though.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
@@SolomonOtoo Good stuff! I’m locked into Look’s KEO myself.
@inVINCEible64
@inVINCEible64 2 роки тому
Power2Max NG because… Campy doesn’t have many options ha
@dmitrymalanda9278
@dmitrymalanda9278 2 роки тому
I have the same (only 105 version on my otherwise full Ultegra drivetrain because… cycling is expensive 😭). I am a big fan! Like you I have problems with my Powertap P2s and unlike you I don‘t trust my Wahoo Kickr 2018‘s power readings as far as I can throw them as they drift out of calibration incerdibly fast 🤣 4iiii left cranck does the job without any issues!
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Awesome to hear! Do you feel like you’re missing out on dual sided? Granted I still have my dual Quarq spyder based
@dmitrymalanda9278
@dmitrymalanda9278 2 роки тому
@@PatrickLino not one bit. The only thing I ever paid any attention to with the dual-sided pedals was L-R power distribution, but since I am consistently 49-51 or 50-50 a left only cranck power meter tells me all I want to know…
@conisalgado1294
@conisalgado1294 2 роки тому
How accurate is this peor Meter
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
As accurate as my PowerTap P2 pedals, and my SRAM/Quarq crank power meter.
@conisalgado1294
@conisalgado1294 Рік тому
@@PatrickLino would o be able to put this on a hybrid bike ???
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
@@conisalgado1294 If using Shimano cranks yes
@conisalgado1294
@conisalgado1294 Рік тому
@@PatrickLino thank you!
@louie7922
@louie7922 2 роки тому
Hi
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 2 роки тому
Ayyyye
@kabobsyea9985
@kabobsyea9985 4 місяці тому
boss
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 4 місяці тому
💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
@thejeffinvade
@thejeffinvade 4 місяці тому
my third leg......🤣
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino 4 місяці тому
hehehe
@donharrold1375
@donharrold1375 Рік тому
A simple answer - No! It’s most definitely not the best affordable power meter. At least not in my experience. The one that I purchased has never worked properly - power readings are nonsense. I’m really angry that 4iiii sold this rubbish.
@PatrickLino
@PatrickLino Рік тому
Yikes
Power meters getting cheaper - should you buy?
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