MARK!!!

Hi Mark!!

@@worthlessguy7477 *HEMANTH!*

LOL

Kinda, when it got hotter and no cooling system

run BFGminer at full throttle..i'm pretty sure you can cook something on it :)

same 😅

Do u think this setup can out perform my x86 beast rocking 6C12T ryzen 3600 and RTX 2060 Super?

@@TECHNDJ nope. its better to use a x86_64 ryzen 5 than 4 of these.

@@TECHNDJ I used an old 8 core Xeon to help rendering and computation from the main (i3 built for low idle) pc. Compute on demand. It really was great. Then I had a 1920X and the Xeon was no good anymore for that. Thinking of getting a 3000 series or 5000 series CPU with as many cores possible on the cheapest board possible, small SSD as cache/swap, fastest ram I can find, Intel 10Gbit cards yanked from eBay for cheap. You could make something along the same lines happen. Get an A520 (mind the vrm), a 5600/5800X or an Apu (saves getting that Nvidia 710), 3600 or faster memory, old SSD you have somewhere, or the cheapest dram cached nvme drive, 128GB is enough, and let it boot from the main rig. Hell you could just try and get the lowest cost i3-8100 from eBay as an alternative. This way you can try and find out if it is for you at all. Note though that I use a BSD for this, Linux should work fine too, Windows is reportedly possible for some programs but a major hassle and I would have no clue how to do it.

@@jamegumb7298 great! But most of my projects requires CUDA and Tensor operations. I would prefer to have a high end gpu with some midrange cpu for decent gaming too in vacations.

@@TECHNDJ You could certainly do that. 2 of the smallest mini-itx cases, Ryzen 3100 in, best card you can get. Or any Apu in a cheap thin mini-itx board with 2×nvme slot, and put Coral edge tpu in the M.2 positions, and one in an adapter in the pcie slot. That makes 3 per board. If it has an opening for WiFi that can fit one tpu as well.

Modules have no heatsink

Glad you enjoyed it

I don't think there is an interconnection over the backplane, they only communicate over Ethernet.

@@GaryExplains That's such a shame. Since Jetson is becoming such a great platform/environment for CV, having the backplate essentially be an NVLink or SLI equivalent would have been really nice to take better advantage of CUDA.

Photogrammatory doesn't require CUDA cores.

Photogrammatory doesn't require CUDA. You can use OpenMVG + OpenMVS on AMD. There were more alternatives for amd gpus but I do not remember them since this setup was fastest when I researched this topic.

@@venisonsteak8437 it doesn't require cuda, sure, but it helps and makes it faster, VisualSFM doesn't have to have cuda, but it helps, meshroom also has a version without cuda but it is almost unusable, i'm aware it's not needed, but that wasn't my question ;) in a time with limited access to new GPUs this could be a direct option as alternative

Geekbench and 3DMark are unable to take advantage of distributed systems like the Jetson Mate.

I cover that in my Jackery 1000 video.

I used the PinePower which I reviewed here on this channel.

@@GaryExplains thanks for the help.

It says at the top "jtop nano"

@@YounesLayachi Really good point. I went and looked it up. Looks like it's a jetson thing, rather than a generalized one... github.com/rbonghi/jetson_stats

I cover jtop in the setup instructions, link is the in description. I also mention it in the other supercomputer video.

There are plenty of ventilation holes. I guess it isn't clear on the shots I took.

With my fan on max, all around the bottom/side there is loads of air blowing out. So from the top blowing down and coming out all around the lower part of the case.

Boinc is nice

The window title bars say jtop, as in "jay-top" :) I just found out about htop myself and I love it much more than top.

It is called jtop and I cover it in the written instructions plus I mention it in the other NVIDIA Supercomputer video.

@@GaryExplains Thanks :-). I thought it was a generic opensource program. I think im still stuck with nvtop in PC.

@Johnny Car Ok, that would be great, but can you add others? There are kind of 4 in this one. How powerful is it and what could be done with it? I lack perspective on this one. Is it comparable to an i7 with a good graphic card but smaler, arm based and very small and power efficient?

The point of the Jetson Mate is not just the processing power but also as a testing/learning environment for MPI and HPC. The point is that it has 4 nodes. How you program 4 nodes is very different to how you program a single node. There are examples of using modules like these (including Raspberry Pi boards) to build clusters with hundreds of nodes.

Yes. See my Jackery 1000 video.

That would be quite interesting to see!

No, and it wouldn't even be efficient. Just get an asic.

Jetson Nano NX is like $400 here in my place, from initial search

@@someoneyouneverknow7529 oh wow, a quick google gave me 100 but likely that was mea culpa and for something else. So we're taking an expensive rig.

There is a big difference between the Nano and the Xavier NX. One of you is quoting the Nano price the other is quoting the Xavier NX price.

​@@GaryExplains Ah, I see. That straightens out those crossed wires, thanks. But to the thrust of the question, how does the performance stack up with a traditional rig on a price by price basis?

Well, that is too much of an open question for two reasons. 1. The point of the Jetson Mate is not just the processing power but also as a testing/learning environment for MPI and HPC. The point is that it has 4 nodes. How you program 4 nodes is very different to how you program a single node. 2. What are the specs of your theoretical $600 machine. Especially with regards to GPU.

Lol, yes! 🤦‍♂️

@@GaryExplains it could be Jensen's hobby project :)

It is called jtop, it is specifically for the Jetson boards. More details in the written instructions.

JTR the Swedish boy band? JTR the Joint Travel Regulations?

@@GaryExplains The swedish boy band of course.

Nothing wrong with 100Gbps Ethernet as a backplane.

Actually HyperTransport is way more suitable for this purpose. And there's far more experience using it between multiple cores because AMD was using it as on-chip bus long before PCIe was specified. It was before that a Broadcom switch bus.

Did you watch the video?

@@GaryExplains I did at work, must have been with the boss.

Ah, ok. Well I used 3 Nano modules and one Xavier NX. You can mix and match in the Jetson Mate.

@@GaryExplains I am working on a Lotto wheel and need to do literally 667 Trillion calculations(25,827,165^2). This might be fast enough to do it! 😊

It's been the future since it's been able to run smartphones, ie 2 decades

OMG. Jeeez you guys will never give up this cancer use of technology, that is mining.

@@RunTheTape no I wont? It's a perfectly reasonable question when I want to do stuff like this for a hobby. Just trying to learn more about this stuff that I dont understand. It's not cancer, its curiosity.

@@_._shinonome_._ It's making our planet more hostile and hot with no real use in return.

@@RunTheTape you do realise I just want to know for a hobby, if you dont have an answer to my comment then leave

@@_._shinonome_._ here’s my answer. Jetson nano and its family was built for young engineers and passionate tinkerers, to be used for AI deep learning and computer vision stuff. Like for robots, self driving, object recognition etc. Using them outside their scope for something as idiotic and senseless as crypto coin minining would be not only a waste of energy but truly insulting to the great minds that invented those electronic components. As it is with the GPUs too. Good bye.

In what sense?

Monero yes, it is deliberately made easier to.mine on CPU and very hard on GPU/ASIC. That's to avoid creating ewaste.

@@crhu319 In light of Monero do you know if there is code available to say activate each node in the Jetson Nano cluster to mine Monero and have each node forward hash rates to the master and then the master forwards the combined hash rates to the mining pool? Additionally, since the Nano does have CUDA cores there is source code for XMRIG to activate the GPU in order to utilize not only the CPU but GPU cores on the device.

Eh?

@@GaryExplains Total of combinations is 2^256 = 1.157920e+77. It's a fold of many digits, unreachable by a single supercomputer all a year.

You have a 256 long password! Wow, I bet that is hard to remember! As I show it only takes a few minutes to brute force a small string like a password. This is what hackers who have access to stolen databases do everyday, plus rainbow tables of course. But how were the rainbow tables created, like this!

You do realise that to brute force crack a sha256 hash you don't try all the combinations of the hash, right?

@@GaryExplains Okay! small string like a password maybe cracked! how many stupid people write short passwords? Long passwords maybe a requirement for preventing the crack!

Watch my Jackery 1000 review for the answer.

@@GaryExplains Self promoting answer, very well played mate! :-P

Sure. But the point is to learn how to use distributed computing without needing to spend big money.

@@GaryExplains yeah that's true. Plus in sure that uses far less power.

No, not as a cluster.

The cheapest way to get a 4 Nanos is to buy 4 kits and then you get the heatsinks as well.

@@GaryExplains So I found out! Thanks!!!

Wondering the same question

It can play Doom 3. See my review video of the Xavier NX.

A hand calculator and a pencil can be used to mine crypto.

It can run Doom 3, see my review video.

Thanks Gary, sure will check it out...this was more of a meme question though....

They easily could. They could slap a HyperTransport bus together - already their on-chip bus and long proven in Broadcom switches...modularize it so you can talk to it direct or break it into PCIe lanes accessed via NVME...or hell invent NVME backplane native, why not. It's not like an SSD cares what core/CPU it's talking to.

ASIC stands for Application-specific integrated circuit. It basically means a special chip which does a specific job, so in this case it does the hashing algorithms, and does them fast. It is highly specialized. You could try making your own, or you could buy a rig. But they are expensive.

No. Plus who has ever heard of a supercomputer running Windows!!! 🤣

@@GaryExplains 🤣🤣

Eh?

Can we PLEASE have a video comment section that DOESN'T talk about mining for once?

@Michael Gee mining is cancer mate. Go eat some magic internet money.