Captured Russian Equipment in Ukraine - (Featuring

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Intro:
Captured equipment has been a feature of human conflict going back to the point where one human stole another human's bashing rock.
But normally there are limits on how much it can be used. Supplying, repairing, or training on captured hardware is usually a difficult thing - unless the enemy is using basically the same kit you are.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine involves a contest between two sides using compatible (largely) Soviet or Post-Soviet kit, coupled with a Russian force that seems predisposed towards abandoning equipment to the enemy.
The result is that Ukraine (supplied by its farmers in some cases) has made extensive use of captured kit (as have the Russian aligned proxies). This video looks at some of the data behind that captured kit, discusses some of the challenges involved in recovery and repair (thanks to a guest contribution by everyone's favourite US Officer, Nicholas Moran) and the strategic significance of all this stuff that's been recovered and reused.
Enjoy - and join me next week for a look at Russia's mobilisation announcement...
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Caveats:
Many caveats are gone over in the video but the regular ones around fog of war and data uncertainty apply. Specifically, I want to point out that while I have a good body of evidence on the 93rd Mechanised and their use of captured equipment, such things a liable to change as equipment is knocked out or rotated and I obviously can't go down and check myself.
Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Opening Words
00:02:51 - What We're Covering
00:04:08 - Sponsor: GROUND NEWS
00:05:42 - Kyiv Thrust
00:06:59 - Abandoned On Withdrawal
00:08:30 - Kharkiv Reprise
00:10:06 - Putting It In Numbers
00:11:08 - Understanding "Captures", & Challenges With Sources
00:14:54 - Categorisation
00:17:01 - BDAR With An Expert
00:19:00 - BDAR With An Expert: Self Recovery
00:20:57 - BDAR With An Expert: Like-Vehicle Recovery
00:24:06 - BDAR With An Expert: Dedicated Recovery
00:30:42 - BDAR With An Expert: How Russia Categorises Its Repairs
00:34:16 - BDAR With An Expert: Replacement Components
00:38:54 - Like-vehicle Recovery & Self Recovery
00:40:13 - Tractor Brigade
00:42:43 - Specialised Recovery Assets
00:44:18 - Informal Procedures
00:46:52 - Frontline & Informal Repair
00:48:02 - Rear Area Capital Repair - A Significant Challenge
00:49:50 - Primary Contributors
00:50:44 - Calling Out Bulgaria
00:53:10 - Quantities & Significance
00:55:06 - Captured, Abandoned, & Foreign Supplied Equipment (ORYX)
00:56:32 - Evidence Of Deployment
00:59:04 - Ammunition & Smaller Items
01:00:40 - Let's Talk AA
01:02:26 - The Sensitive & Secret
01:04:40 - You All Wanted To Hear About It
01:06:40 - Conclusions
01:08:08 - Channel Update
Extra Reading:
Oryx - Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02...
Jakub Janovsky - critical to supporting the Oryx work
/ rebel44cz
Counteroffensive: Russian losses - @ragnarbjartur on Twitter
datastudio.google.com/u/0/rep...
A Frontline Shadow Economy: Ukrainian Units Swap Tanks and Artillery - NYT
www.nytimes.com/2022/08/30/wo...
Poland multinational repair hub discussion
mil.in.ua/en/news/in-eastern-...
Czech companies to repair Ukrainian tankswww.reuters.com/world/europe/...
Fantastic OSINT complication of interesting vehicle captures/sightings
/ uaweapons
Thank you to those sources who contributed to the preparation of this video.

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@PerunAU
@PerunAU Рік тому
Big thanks to the Chieftain (Nicholas Moran) for his help and input into this episode - please check out his channel: ukposts.info I'd also like to say thanks also to returning sponsor Ground News, who have been recurring supporters of the channel: Compare news coverage from diverse sources around the world on a transparent platform driven by data. ground.news/perun Ground news sponsorships have previously allowed me to donate to relief efforts in Ukraine - and I'll announce a new round of donations next week as voted by patrons. Finally, thanks to everyone for understanding why I am not doing any coverage of Russian mobilisation until next week - your understanding of the fact it takes me time to gather and verify information is always very much appreciated.
@Syndr1
@Syndr1 Рік тому
Hi Perun, thank you for the research you do.
@Syndr1
@Syndr1 Рік тому
P.s. when they going to hire you to teach at Harvard or something,lol
@onbedoeldekut1515
@onbedoeldekut1515 Рік тому
Just a little help with Irish names. 'Moran' should be pronounced M(o)ran, instead of 'Morran'. It can equally be said 'More-an', but is never (afaik) said like 'sporran'. I wouldn't expect anyone to be able to pronounce my surname (Suibhne). (And just in case you thought I'm being a bit of a dick, 'Onbedoelde Kut' is a cheeky translation of 'unintentional cunt' into Dutch)! (I'm not Dutch).
@Trynil
@Trynil Рік тому
Could we get the videos premiered?
@Elldallan
@Elldallan Рік тому
I am very disappointed in The Chieftain... never once was track tensioning mentioned XD
@gentlemachinist1970
@gentlemachinist1970 Рік тому
LETS GO BABY POWER POINT TIME!!
@tarickw
@tarickw Рік тому
comma would've been useful
@gentlemachinist1970
@gentlemachinist1970 Рік тому
Not as useful as this power point boi
@robomonkey1018
@robomonkey1018 Рік тому
Yay! Lerning!
@mellowcornpapi2305
@mellowcornpapi2305 Рік тому
POWER POINT! POWER POINT!
@sean5350
@sean5350 Рік тому
yeah boyyyy lego
@TheLampl1ghter
@TheLampl1ghter Рік тому
Shout-out to Russia for dropping more items on defeat than the average JRPG monster.
@apisitprasan8766
@apisitprasan8766 Рік тому
And they not even done yet
@libertyprime2013
@libertyprime2013 Рік тому
Their loot is quite generous.
@elguapo1690
@elguapo1690 Рік тому
It's all low tier trash, but you can trade it for legendary gear in the west.
@shycracker
@shycracker Рік тому
They're what happened when you you have character with insane luck on RPG/JRPG game, the loot drop rate% are unbelievable
@talltroll7092
@talltroll7092 Рік тому
This isn't even their final form
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 Рік тому
When I was a child, I was living on a military base. I would go into the wood and find all kinds of equipment left behind. My dad's unit found out that I had built up a pile of left over equipment, they asked my dad to bring me by. The supply sergeant offer to trade me for the equipment for a variety of items. I was proud to be part of the "lateral" supply chain. Thank you for the video.
@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729
@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729 Рік тому
Cool story buddy 😎 may I ask what the supply Sargent offered you and I have always wondered what it's like for kids growing up on a military base.? I imagine it's quite a fun place to grow up.?
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 Рік тому
@@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729 It was fun but very different. When my dad retired and we left the base it was a shock. We knew everyone. Once in the "civilian world it took years to know my neighbors. In the military, everyone is equal and you know how much their dad made by the stripes on his sleeves. As to the stuff I traded I got a shovel, a little socket set (wish I had it still), and a poncho with a liner. Oh, and some boots that fit me. :)
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer
@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Рік тому
Born scrounge!
@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729
@HERETOHELPPEOPLE729 Рік тому
@@brucewilliams6292 how awesome again thanks so much for sharing I always wondered what it's like for children growing up on a military base. Sounds so much fun 😊 Yes my friend the civilian world is totally different I only know my neighbors because I bought the house I grew up in several years ago. My sister on the other hand couldn't name one neighbour and she lives in her house 4r5 years now. I wish it was like when I grew up we all knew each other and mom would sometimes if short or stuck send us to Ms Carroll few house's down for a pint of milk etc. Times have changed big time some for the better some not just my opinion anyway. Much appreciated reading ur story. Take care 💙🙏🏻
@sgtbaker2072
@sgtbaker2072 Рік тому
hahahaha that's awesome
@JunGlisTs0Ldi3r
@JunGlisTs0Ldi3r Рік тому
Excellent video and as a Slav with a little farmer background I was hysterically laughing at the ''are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow the tank away" sentence, well done!
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
If you see the Videos of the Ukrainian farmers...they are almost GIDDY yanking these Russian tanks out of the (Their) fields.
@shorewall
@shorewall Рік тому
I gotta say, as an American, if I saw a tank broke down in my neighborhood, I would probably try to tow it off as well. :D
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
@@shorewall lol!...a Russian tank? 1000%!...an M1A2? We might get in trouble...BUT, I'm sure we can find a garage to keep the damn thing!
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
@@shorewall BTW- WOLVERINES!
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Рік тому
The best part about Slavs is that you can make totally inappropriate jokes about their stereotypes, and they just laugh and nod! Stay proud guys! Stay proud!
@francoispapadakis76
@francoispapadakis76 Рік тому
The letter "Z" used alone means "I require a tug" according to the maritime code of signals. Ukrainian tractor brigades responded accordingly.
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Рік тому
really? the irony of that is phenomenal... unless whoever was responsible for picking the use of "Z"s in this operation was aware of how badly things were going to go and felt like giving us this joke.
@ScipionLaurentiend
@ScipionLaurentiend Рік тому
at naval academy we made tshirt with my favorite signal on it to go to the bar....foxtrot means I am disabled please communicate with me...never worked but we had a good laugh
@EthanDyTioco
@EthanDyTioco Рік тому
@@RipOffProductionsLLC nah man, Plankton's Plan Z will surely work lol
@hjpc73
@hjpc73 Рік тому
think you mean V
@billy.g3597
@billy.g3597 Рік тому
The letter Z on Russian armoured vehicles stands for " ZIPPO ". Because they always light first time !!!.
@Ticklestein
@Ticklestein Рік тому
“Tankfactories aren’t exactly known for their maneuverability” is my new favorite sentence
@Megalomaniakaal
@Megalomaniakaal Рік тому
They aren't known for it but they have on rare occasion done that. :)
@ldcbossrob3938
@ldcbossrob3938 Рік тому
@@Megalomaniakaal Yea, under a mountain in 1943. lol
@redshirt5126
@redshirt5126 Рік тому
Haha, Soviet factories go brrrrrrrr!
@meilinchan7314
@meilinchan7314 Рік тому
Sounds like Ukraine could use the Fatboy from Supreme Commander.
@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk
@SalaciousBCrumb-md3lk Рік тому
WW2 Era soviets beg to differ.
@veejayroth
@veejayroth Рік тому
As a Czech I am so proud of my small country doing its part in this conflict. To put it mildly, there might be a grudge or two to be settled with the Moscovites...
@wraithface4410
@wraithface4410 Рік тому
It's not a small country
@rajeshkanungo6627
@rajeshkanungo6627 Рік тому
Your spring is finally returning
@dougerrohmer
@dougerrohmer Рік тому
@@wraithface4410 Area of British Columbia 944,735 km²; area of New York State 141,300 km²; area of England 130,279 km², area of Czech Republic 78,871 km². Czech Republic is a dinky tiny country, but punching way above it's weight class for assistance to Ukraine, WELL DONE Czech Republic!
@danielc9312
@danielc9312 Рік тому
As an American I remember early on when a lot of people wondered what the ex soviet states could actually contribute to an already powerful NATO alliance. I'm going to be honest when I say they have proven their worth 1000 times over. Even Estonians have sent over a third of their entire Javelin stock. Even though my country has made a lot of contributions the eastern Europeans have pulled more than their own weight and have proven how capable and necessary their equipment and expertise has been. There are simply things that they can offer that the US and western Europe can't. Nobody can doubt their capability and resolve ever again. Some belived the east would be a liability and bring provocation from Russia. I'm sure we all know now that former eastern bloc countries have now formed the backbone of Ukraines logistics and supply which is largely in the best interests of NATO as a whole. Sure US weapons have helped, even greatly, but there are limits to our aid when we are on the other side of the planet and our economy is already in recession. If we did send M1A2 Abrams tanks both we and Ukraine would have to depend entirely on Poland for any large repairs especially the complex and expensive gas turbine engines. That is why the tanks sent by the Czechs are more useful right now. Any good farm boy can fix a diesel. But like Perun said they will have questions when they have to fix a turbine engine generally used in aircraft. I wonder if our older M60A3 tanks could be reactivated and sent over. We haven't used them since the gulf War though 🤔
@ReaperCH90
@ReaperCH90 Рік тому
You guys deserve to be part of the Ukraine victory. But your post-communism success is more important than anything. I met russian hockey players whose biggest dream was to play in the Czech republic
@richyhu2042
@richyhu2042 Рік тому
All of these videos are literally a college level course on military economics and logistics. All you need is a test or an exam. Bravo and keep it up!
@edmundlee1065
@edmundlee1065 Рік тому
Perun should literally start a subscribe page and people pay him to take his tests/quizzes on the topics he covers.
@shycracker
@shycracker Рік тому
Better reserves that until way later once the whole Russo-Ruthenian conflict is over.
@RasAlHaq
@RasAlHaq Рік тому
I've watched them all - where's my certificate? 😄
@umjackd
@umjackd Рік тому
It's the best part of studying but without the exams.
@Raikenbolai
@Raikenbolai Рік тому
They really aren't. More like college level fan fiction
@goncalovazpinto6261
@goncalovazpinto6261 Рік тому
"are you a true Slav if you don't immediately attempt to tow it away?" Nailed it! 🤣🤣🤣
@dariuszrutkowski420
@dariuszrutkowski420 Рік тому
We don't waste as a rule. If it's broken, get some glue, tape, welder etc. and fix it ao it works until it breaks again. Repeat process until you can't repair it any more. Than you scrap it or throw it into the trash.
@markwilson2992
@markwilson2992 Рік тому
@@dariuszrutkowski420 All the East Europeans I know are great mechanics, handymen, etc. They can fix anything!
@goncalovazpinto6261
@goncalovazpinto6261 Рік тому
@@dariuszrutkowski420 Hey! I'm not judging! I restore and reuse stuff from the garbage too! Also what Perun is implying here is not just that slavs like to reuse, it's that anything left unattended will quickly be "reused" wether the owner wants it or not not!
@hairychris444
@hairychris444 Рік тому
​@@markwilson2992 IIRC there was a mechanical component to the driving test in what was Czechoslovakia then Slovakia after the split, although not sure if the same today. Basic repair skills were expected. And yeah. I have a number of friends from that part of the world and have visited a bunch of times. Fixing shit with limited resources is a national - well, Slavic - characteristic. From necessity. As was self-sufficiency.
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock Рік тому
Or be able to strip an external part within minutes.
@TheoEvian
@TheoEvian Рік тому
With the Czech involvement in repair of UA armoured vehicles: 1. we don't have tank plants. In the Czechoslovak times we used to be able to produce T-72 but when communism ended this ability ended too. However, the industry is still very much able to repair and upgrade T-72s and BVP-2s (BMP-2) especially - this point will become important later. But the most complex piece of kit we can actually produce is the Pandur IFV (imported know-how) and some of the SPG prototypes (SPG capabilities survived much better than the tank ones because they were domestically developed and DANA vz. 77 was in 1977 probably the best SPG in the world). 2. The czech arms industry was very optimistic at the start of the war - they produce a lot of ammo, spare parts or even newly made products (Vampir MLRS, the Bureviy and Neptune carriers etc, all made by Tatra), but they very quickly found that while they can repair T-72s and BMP-2s they don't know what to do with T-80s and T-64s. But it seems that these companies actually imported Ukrainian specialists to teach and assist their own employees (and with refugees now being around 5% of the population they wouldn't be even conspicuous) 3. The Czech arms industry is really producing weapons for Ukraine on the rate of like 120% and the same goes for Slovakia, Poland, Romania and a few others (and not so much for Germany or France). A big part of the 152 and also 155 mm ammo used is produced in these countries but really it is almost all-encompassing usage of the production capabilities. And from I have heard those weapons companies want for their trouble basically just minimal margin to keep themselves running. These facts have been not given enough media attention in my eyes. Partially because the Czech government is pretty tight-lipped about the whole deal.
@PhiltheMoko
@PhiltheMoko Рік тому
Hopefully all the cases like this where invaluable help has gone largely unrecognized will get more publicity after an eventual Ukrainian victory!
@elijahsnow3119
@elijahsnow3119 Рік тому
Yeah. The munitions rate is something not being covered as it should be. I hope the Republic and others in Eastern Europe can keep up. I worry about all of the countries in the world running low on munitions involved in this. Rate of consumption levels pre war (like literally every war in history it seems) were hilariously optimistic. It worries me to think that the East will run themselves out of munitions. You need to be ready in case things go sideways for you. Instability is popping up all over. Even the US is looking at a munitions shortage if we don’t adapt to current rate of consumption.
@KinoTechUSA69
@KinoTechUSA69 Рік тому
Czech Small Arms are the best in the world. Bren 2 4 Lyfe
@elijahsnow3119
@elijahsnow3119 Рік тому
@@KinoTechUSA69 no argument from me. I had a vz 58 before it was a cool kid’s gun. Mine is a tack driver. But still. Munitions production is a classic “they’ll use everything and then some” problem.
@EthanDyTioco
@EthanDyTioco Рік тому
the czechs are based
@j.f.fisher5318
@j.f.fisher5318 Рік тому
Say what you want about Wargaming, I'm grateful that they gave The Chieftain his job and funded his research. He's a godsend to the tank enthusiast and segments of the military history communities.
@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564
@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 Рік тому
I have, overall, a highly negative opinion of the direction their games have gone in the past several years. However, them pulling out of Russia, moving their offices, etc. that they did at the start of the conflict got a lot of respect from me.
@justdude8115
@justdude8115 Рік тому
Wargaming are Russian vatniks
@les07derEroberer
@les07derEroberer Рік тому
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 they have pulled out of belarus, they used to have their headquarters in minsk
@rouymalic4463
@rouymalic4463 Рік тому
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 iirc one of their guys name "serB" was fired for his opinion during the invasion (pro-russian).
@MsZsc
@MsZsc Рік тому
@@magiccarpetmadeofsteel4564 they have an office in kiev
@musername996
@musername996 Рік тому
~50% of the number of your global subscribers have watched the video in the 1st 6 hours. 10% of those left a thumbs up, 5% commented. These are the best figures I‘ve seen on any channel, ever, yet you deserve more. Wish you all the best and thanks for the amazing content!
@andrewharrison8436
@andrewharrison8436 Рік тому
Glad I'm not the only one who looks at these numbers - I do try and feed the algorithm by adding relevant(ish) comments. ... and yes Perun deserves these figures (or more).
@stormelemental13
@stormelemental13 Рік тому
Thanks for mentioning those analytics.
@knmo2642
@knmo2642 Рік тому
12 hours in he is 6k short his sub count. That is incredible! Bravo.
@michaelrowave
@michaelrowave Рік тому
@@andrewharrison8436 I think its because (speaking for myself) breaking things down on a logistics level hlps me feel less fearful of the unknown and though no less horrific even the worst problems are best solved with a calm mind. His pre-loaded disclosures and well defined parameters or qualifications make a vague topic seem less scary. Plus, good voice and most of razor sharp deadpan humor cuts and Private Konskriptovich jokes.
@jessehachey2732
@jessehachey2732 Рік тому
@@michaelrowave I’ve been seeing people commenting on other Ukraine channels with the terms “Pvt Konscriptovich and General Oligarchov, etc..😂😂😂 and tons of viewers know exactly where it’s from and credit Perun! We could call the, Perun-isms? 😂❤
@kaseyfreudenstein4970
@kaseyfreudenstein4970 Рік тому
After hearing the Cheiftan talk about the first level of recovery being "DIY" for the crew I cannot stress enough how much hard training experience is required to make a good crew. When in Poland (as an American) they often complained our equipment was broken and dirty for public displays. Truth be told, I always hated that sentiment because each flake of paint missing was a lesson our crew learned putting in hard hours in the field, not neglect (the Poles have shiny display equipment for parades only). Being able to see an malfunction and go "get me a wrench, an aiming pole, and a sledge hammer" is something you can't teach in any manual. Hard earned experience and strict adherence to BII layouts honestly makes me think that in a fair fight with equal numbers, an American unit would beat a Russian unit, equipment differences be damned. Best to learn the nuances of your equipment on the training fields than to try and learn the tricks of the trade as a 155mm round flies into your position. It looks as though instead of gardening for a General or driving in patriotic displays the Russians should have laundered some money into better war game exercises and breaking some equipment so they don't die when the games become real.
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 Рік тому
On the other hand my friend who is currently serving in polish army told that nobody earn as much respect in his eyes as technical crews responsible for maintenance of stored equipment. T-72s (MBT) or just Star 266s (medium truck) are more than 50 years old and with means of storing under low humidity and frequent checks given the amount of work these vehicles done, their status is strikingly good. What's most impressive is that all that seems to be on a really, really tight budget. I have no Idea about American procedures in that field but seeing Russian trucks with busted tires due to them being poorly maintained showed me how important that work really is. I don't know about DIY side of this though
@kaseyfreudenstein4970
@kaseyfreudenstein4970 Рік тому
@@juliuszkocinski7478 please do not get me wrong, I'm not bashing on the Poles at all. It just rubbed me wrong when they acted like we were just going to produce perfect painted units out of thin air like I just had a [vehicle] chilling in my back pocket. They train hard too. I was just pointing out what happens when you let the equipment degrade, to a point the crews skill will degrade with it. Not doing those simple easy maintenence tasks may have had big trickle down effects that cost Russian lives.
@DrKlausTrophobie
@DrKlausTrophobie Рік тому
Something of this sort came to my mind as well. From a German perspective i'm afraid of the level of bureaucracy that might be involved in training with heavy equipment. What actually happens when a Leopard get stuck during exercise? Will the crew call it a day and leave it for the -Biber- Büffel to handle or is this a advanced work-group meeting? Because, from my short experience in logistics, its mostly: "You're not supposed to tinker/deal with this!" Edit: Wrong tank 🤐
@maxpower3990
@maxpower3990 Рік тому
The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.
@JustinRM20
@JustinRM20 Рік тому
@@DrKlausTrophobie Good question honestly. I wonder that as well. I know our nations train together often, but both face material shortcomings, lack of personnel and funding. There is lots of footage though of the 1st Panzer Division training, wherein often the Buffel can be spotted towing the Leos away. I think the combat engineers are one of the few units left that have enough material.
@r_rumenov
@r_rumenov Рік тому
Thanks for mentioning my country (Bulgaria). We have our tank repair plant, as well as both our 152/155/GRAD ammunition factories working 3 shifts now. 4-5 Antonov airlines planes full of the stuff fly out from the military airport near my parents' house (Yikes, I know, and they don't have a basement!). A lot of Bulgarians support Ukraine, despite the vocal minority of Russia-lovers. Frankly, if the pro-Russian party didn't tacitly participate in the last government, the other coalition members would've already sent our 100-ish (thermal sighted, but ERA-less) T-72s and 20 or so MiG-29s over, as well as donated a shitton of ammo and other equipment. Although I'm not a Petkov voter (I voted and will vote for another ideologically close party that was in the last government and is more hardline against Russia), I still hope he gets another term, and a 4-year one at that. He's a Harvard Law graduate with an ex-Canadian citizenship and has zero tolerance for Russia's cronies, who've been ripping us off for the past 70 years.
@NintendoPlayBox360
@NintendoPlayBox360 Рік тому
As a fellow bulgarian - that is pretty much whats happening here. Most young and educated people, as well as old folks who do not have their heads up their asses are very much supporting ukraine and are against russian politics and actions.
@Karen_of_Kanada
@Karen_of_Kanada Рік тому
So, apparently the dissertation on vehicle recovery was the primer on logistics I didn't realize I needed. I only wish my university classes had been half this engaging and informative, because I honestly feel like I learned things today.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Рік тому
It really was excellent. So many people intone sanctimoniously about the importance of logistics, usually quoting Bradley or some other historical military genius, but they don’t really convey the complexity of logistical systems. They don’t understand the topic. They use “logistics” as a buzzword. Chieftain and Perun both understand the importance of logistics as a SYSTEM, and Chieftain has the expertise to guide us a little ways into the details. (I am sure he could take us much deeper if he had the inclination and we had the interest and patience.) You’re right to call it a primer. A very valuable one. I wish more people that use “logistics” as a buzzword would watch this video.
@brucemcleod6300
@brucemcleod6300 Рік тому
As a former Mechanical Maintenance Officer, it’s gratifying to see this BDAR subject covered.
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Рік тому
Hopefully I did it some reasonable justice
@catherineandpaulfuters2523
@catherineandpaulfuters2523 Рік тому
@@TheChieftainsHatch you did and then some. Might I suggest a series of ARV development vids?
@brucemcleod6300
@brucemcleod6300 Рік тому
@@catherineandpaulfuters2523 That would be fun!
@keithiverson6687
@keithiverson6687 Рік тому
As a maintainer, and former tank repair shop supervisor, I agree. Especially some of the differences between countries. The expedient repairs and cannibalisation was something I become a master of when overseas, lol.
@aleksandernikulin5238
@aleksandernikulin5238 Рік тому
Hi Perun - As a half-Bulgarian/half-Ukranian it has been agonizing to watch how little on the surface the Bulgarian government and industry have been doing to help Ukraine. When you mentioned you will "call out Bulgaria" I was so certain what would follow would be 5 minutes of methodically ripping into the weird inadequacy of our stance of support and equipment. So - thank you for actually informing on something positive. Unfortunately due to the devastating effect of hybrid russian influence in our media and political space and the effect it has had over our society, currently the winning political move is to more or less stop short of straight up supporting Russia and "blaming NATO" - So the elections you mentioned are more or less expected with an impending sense of doom as it looks like the pro-russian euro-sceptic (straight up fascist) parties will be getting increased presence in the new parlament. PS: On the opposite end it has been hilarious to hear how our minister of economy (who also happened to be the leader of the pro-russian socialist party) is shouting at microphones "we are not supporting Ukraine!" while at the same time seeing train-loads of munition leave "for Poland" daily :D
@adam-k
@adam-k Рік тому
As a Hungarian I can say politics gets really hard when 90% of your energy sector (not just gas and oil but nuclear as well) depends on your "enemy". At least Bulgaria has ports.
@SittingOnEdgeman
@SittingOnEdgeman Рік тому
@@adam-k Hungary used to have ports. It could always get adventurous and try to take them back. :P
@adam-k
@adam-k Рік тому
@@SittingOnEdgeman nah , we just waiting for global warming to solve the issue.
@concretedonkey4726
@concretedonkey4726 Рік тому
Yeah Senpai noticed us :). I would not be soo doomeristic about the elections however. Allmost all parties are pro Ukraine (with a few notable loud exceptions), even the obviously corrupt ones like GERB have pro-Ukraine stance, heck even the president made a 180 degree turn in the last few days... My impression is that some of our politicians are trying to play the old game "try not to piss off both sides", which now however does not work now at all. Now for the freaky nationalistic parties - just remember during the pro-ukrainan protests how many people they could gather... the pro-Ukrainian protest had orders of magnitude more people.The nationalists had to bring people from the countryside with busses. Some of which had no idea what they were protesting about when asked. SO do not freak out for the moment and go to vote :). For the weapon supplies... they seem pretty significant... after the government fell one former boss of one of the weapon factories threw in the press a number of around 4200 tons of weapons supplied for just the first 2 or 3 months of the war. Ironically he was fired by the same leader of the socialist party, also ironically chairwoman of the ... weapon export comitte... so her signature is on all of those exports for, allegedly, Poland that somehow end up in Ukraine :P. Those lines of supply btw started in 2014 since we were not supposed to export weapons in to open conflicts.
@debreczenizoltan490
@debreczenizoltan490 Рік тому
@@SittingOnEdgeman this getting back business is soo 20th century... Fortunately now a take back regime is currently smashing its head to pulp banging a brick wall. Tragically to the expense of millions. Sadly here in Hungary we have many idiots working in the take back propaganda business...
@The_Bookman
@The_Bookman Рік тому
Holy smokes! The Chieftain! You have come a long way in a short amount of time! What a collaboration! Congrats!
@Ironclockwork
@Ironclockwork Рік тому
Interestingly, if my memory serves correctly, I was first made aware of Perun’s work by one of Chieftain’s videos.
@jordanhampton7144
@jordanhampton7144 Рік тому
@@Ironclockwork same here
@martinh2783
@martinh2783 Рік тому
I read this as: Holy smokes! The Chieftan! You (the Chieftan) have come a long way in a short amount of time! What a collaboration! Congrats! xD
@henrydorsett6076
@henrydorsett6076 Рік тому
@@martinh2783 err?
@jic1
@jic1 Рік тому
@@henrydorsett6076 He's saying that it looks like the comment is saying The Chieftain has come along way, although the context makes it pretty clear that it actually refers to Perun.
@GraemePayne1967Marine
@GraemePayne1967Marine Рік тому
When I was an active-duty Marine in Vietnam (1969-70) my "office" was the "recovery" variant of the LVTP-5 amphibious tracked vehicle (LVTP-5R). You have refreshed my memories of some of the work we had to do. AND the Paperwork, of course! Thanks.
@stuartdollar9912
@stuartdollar9912 Рік тому
As an American, I have nothing but admiration for the Ukrainian people, and especially NATO's Eastern members. The creativity of how these countries are aiding Ukraine merely scores the value of NATO as an organization and all its member countries.
@CapnBlackJackHonour
@CapnBlackJackHonour Рік тому
I’m literally saving this episode for a time when I’m not going to be interrupted or distracted. Who knew that logistical analytics was a rabbit hole I needed in my life!?!
@disturbingdevelopment4308
@disturbingdevelopment4308 Рік тому
Yeah, same. I first got interested in the logistics side when an American maintenance guy pointed out on a news network segment the Russian tyres on expensive equipment were cheapo's made in China. That led to Perun's video on corruption in the military, and I've been hooked since. As the Generals say: "Amateurs talk about strategy and tactics. Professionals talk about logistics and sustainability in warfare."
@TheGeeoff
@TheGeeoff Рік тому
I have to go to bed so I can sleep before a night shift. It's a dilemma whether to watch a few minutes first or not.
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
Perun does that
@velvetmagnetta3074
@velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому
@Geoff K - If you do that, you're not gonna stop!
@jordan2735
@jordan2735 Рік тому
I’m a trucker so I listen to this shit all day while on the road lol.
@veuriam
@veuriam Рік тому
For next week's topic, I would love to see your opinions on the Russian mobilization and what chance it would have to solve Russia's manpower problems. As always, thanks so much for the wonderful analysis!
@PerunAU
@PerunAU Рік тому
That's 100% the topic for next week - already working on it.
@PhiltheMoko
@PhiltheMoko Рік тому
@@PerunAU Fantastic!
@Ticklestein
@Ticklestein Рік тому
I already hear @@PerunAU go “Media might make you think ‘Russian make army big, russian army stronk’, but… No, it doesn’t.” 😂
@theodoresmith5272
@theodoresmith5272 Рік тому
My thoughts are they struggle to supply this army. Russia is stuck on the rails. They can bring 300,000 to the front but that will only increase the supply problem. I would also say the west will now flood even more supplies and start sending weapons systems they haven't sent yet.
@corrat4866
@corrat4866 Рік тому
lazerpig loop
@RichardHuffman
@RichardHuffman Рік тому
Aweseome video, and well-used collab!!! Also: "Poland is pusing for a multi-national repair hub" - I kind of get the feeling that what Poland wants is to go to St. Petersburg, but must content itself with doing everything they can short of that!
@vojtechurbanec9886
@vojtechurbanec9886 Рік тому
And the Czechs will join in! Russia WILL pay for 1968
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
Russia would get it's az.z kicked in a hot minute if they screw up and mess with Poland.
@krzysztofsaa2997
@krzysztofsaa2997 Рік тому
Well we still wait for Khadirov and his dogs to conquer us....
@embreis2257
@embreis2257 Рік тому
@@barrybolton1396 the Poles were on a shopping spree recently and got themselves quite an impressive arsenal (once it is produced and/or delivered). wonder what they have in mind with so many weapons...
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
@@embreis2257 They could kick Russia out of Ukraine with what they have now...some winged Hussars outside of Moscow perhaps?
@finoxb944
@finoxb944 Рік тому
The other big advantage of getting a good look at that T-90M is that it's supposed to use Russian made electronics, the fire control system in particular. So not only will we get a chance to see how effective that effort has been (and if it's true) but what the results of Russian efforts to make their own electronics provides as well. Another wonderful video as always! :)
@kazansky22
@kazansky22 Рік тому
It will be interesting to see what parts make up the components, knowing where they are sanction busting will help close holes.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 Рік тому
I thought many of the critical electronics regarding the fcs and sighting is still imports?
@catc8927
@catc8927 Рік тому
The Russians have been trying to sanctions-dodge via shady third party distributors in Asia; a bunch of TI parts made it to Russia that way. A few years ago, the U.S. DoJ also busted a fake tech company in Texas run by Russians that was a front for buying export-controlled ICs. But even with all of this leakiness, apparently the sanctions are hitting Russia hard when it comes to advanced tech.
@Gridlocked
@Gridlocked Рік тому
@@jintsuubest9331 Correct.
@jeckjeck3119
@jeckjeck3119 Рік тому
@@jintsuubest9331 That's why Moskva sank so easy... it had no parts for defense.
@Soulessdeeds
@Soulessdeeds Рік тому
So as a former Bradley mechanic and recovery operator. I have to say there are so many variables that can happen during these missions. And even if the recovery missions just towing back a broke down vehicle. You then have to troubleshoot why the vehicle broke down. Depending on if you have parts or can get parts quickly that vehicle will be returned to missions fairly soon. But if you know there won't be parts for a while but another vehicle is awaiting another part that can be swapped over from the long term deadline vehicle then it often makes combat power sense to do the swap and just order now 2 parts for the donor vehicle. The big problem comes when you get swamped with broken down vehicles all needing parts and your donor vehicle is now a convenient solution to get your platoons back up and running. But now your donor vehicle is looking pretty rough and has a parts on order list 3 miles long lol. You can sometimes end up just writing that vehicle off and it gets sent to a depot rebuild. This situation happens with the US military even with our great logistics systems. So you can imagine how much Ukraine is cannibalizing tanks and infantry vehicles just to keep them running. Or being forced to turn a blind eye to certain things no longer working right. But if it still moves and shoots then they have to send it. Capturing Russian tanks and equipment doesn't mean Ukraine instantly has new tanks. As we have seen so far. The Russians are kinda shit with supplies and vehicle maintenance. So Capturing a Russian tank could easily just mean free parts donors instead for vehicles Ukraine already have.
@khiem1939
@khiem1939 Рік тому
When the parts are of no more use, melt them down and use the resulting steel to build KIAs!
@Flamechr
@Flamechr Рік тому
Ukraine are sending them to Polan for repair and uogrades so they can be used again 😄
@Grak70
@Grak70 Рік тому
“Given n vehicles needing m parts each on parts list p, all of which are interchangeable, determine the part swaps that should be performed to minimize 1) the number of parts needed per vehicle and 2) the number of vehicles needing a parts order of any size.”
@Grak70
@Grak70 Рік тому
“Additional constraint: parts list p has a paired table t with lead times of all parts. Minimize total lead time for any parts list generated.” I realize this whole problem is probably under-constrained but it’s fun to think about feeding this into a quantum computer and it spitting out an incomprehensible work order that somehow works amazingly well.
@tranthiminhchauam5538
@tranthiminhchauam5538 Рік тому
Welcome to the Marine Armored Training Center. There are 19 major systems in this Marine Armored Personnel Carrier (Bradley AFV), and over 25 thousand moving parts. In the next 8 months, you will learn ALL OF THEM. When you are done here, you'll be able to park that vehicle on top of an enemy position, and blow the shit out of them. It's MY job to get YOUR shit in order, it's YOUR job to shut the f up, and learn. - Some quote I heard long ago.
@ingloriuspumpkinpie9367
@ingloriuspumpkinpie9367 Рік тому
I would like to add that tractors are definitively not just for pulling light equipment. Plows and similar equipment might look light when compared to tanks but when going through soil they offer a lot of resistance. Tractors in agriculture but mainly forestry also often have to deal with difficult terrain. The tractors shown on pictures of farmer brigades are often some of the heavier machinery availible.(edit liked the video tho).
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 Рік тому
The larger tractor types also have an awesome lifting capability, and even smaller ones more modern than a Fordson Major have at least a useful one. And Ukrainian farmers seem to very much come from the same school as my uncle when it comes to their farm equipment - "If I can't fix it myself, and fast, it is no good to me". Most are or have on staff excellent mechanics, engineers and fabricators (my uncle was all three, as his degree was in agricultural engineering, although most learn it less formally on the job). The only things they buy in are consumables and some precision parts like fluids, filters, hydraulic Q/R fittings, piston rings, or that kind of thing. If it does not require a fully equipped precision machine shop with milling machines and lathes, they can and do make it, up to and including casting their own white metal bearing shells. Are they as good as factory parts? No. Do they get that combine back out in the field during the short dry period you have to complete the harvest? Yes. Do they understand tracked vehicles? damned right they do! Hydraulics? No problem. And diesel engines? damned straight! So even captures that have been sabotaged by their crews to excuse them from fighting by things like oil starvation can be fixed. The only bits of a tank they can't fix to at least the level of a forward collection point are the bits that go bang and chuck stuff, and those can be exchanged or bartered for. [edited for spelling]
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 Рік тому
@@phillee2814 Armour, they cannot fix damaged armour plating. Not doing that in a farmers machine shop either. But yeah, other that fully agree. Not like anything with damaged armour is going to be put back into service without a rebuild anyway, so not like its really an issue. Important to note here I am not talking about replacing ERA or other attached armour systems, I am talking the actual armour plate of the vehicle, its main armour. The stuff requires some pretty advanced metallurgy these days, and thats before you start looking at the various composite systems....
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ Рік тому
Ukraine is a country of large fields. You can't maintain such with some light tractors. A solid turbo 4x4 tractor you are climbing with a ladder is the only thing that will do the job.
@phillee2814
@phillee2814 Рік тому
@@HanSolo__ BS - the huge tractors only allow you to drag more equipment in one go. Those same fields were cultivated for centuries with single-blade ploughs and one horsepower. And it worked better as it didn't compact the soil but fertilised everywhere it went.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel Рік тому
@@phillee2814 interesting how clueless people are spinning their preferred agenda.. Did you ever walk one single day behind a working horse, for a living? Huge machinery is a tremendous achievement in so many ways...
@jurajbeger9299
@jurajbeger9299 Рік тому
Just wanted to add that there is also a repair factory in Moldava nad Bodvou in Slovakia. 100 km away from Uzhorod which is also helping with repairing Ukrainian armored vehicles. The second one is in Trenčín, probably also providing repairs (its reachable by train from UE).
@trustytrunks315
@trustytrunks315 Рік тому
Thank you Bulgaria! Thank you Perun for another unique and fabulously informative presentation. LOVE the dry humor. Glory to the Ukrainian Tractor Brigade!
@Hardbass-yl6be
@Hardbass-yl6be Рік тому
Oh yeah, another hour long PowerPoint presentation! Salute to the Ukrainian Tractor Brigades for their hard work!
@BKBarrister
@BKBarrister Рік тому
I remember the Chieftain referencing you months ago (Are tanks obsolete?) and I knew it was only a matter of time before an awesome collaboration like this happened. Thank you both for helping me stay informed in-depth!
@alganhar1
@alganhar1 Рік тому
It was actually the Chieftain's reference in that video that brought me here. Got to give it to Chris Moran, he is more than willing to shout out for people, and the more quality content we have on MilTube the better. Especially if different folks cover different aspects. New points of view and ways of looking at things are valuable if you want to gain a more balanced understanding of a situation or subject.
@imgvillasrc1608
@imgvillasrc1608 Рік тому
Really upsetting that some people here even made fun of Chieftain in his video calling him an "old dinosaur" simply because of his defense for the tank and didn't like the idea that someone else was offering to counter Perun's points.
@xXTheVigilantXx
@xXTheVigilantXx Рік тому
You started going over farmers and their mechanical abilities and I had to laugh, because it's SO accurate. I'm from Kansas and every farmer that I know, knows their equipment intimately and can usually figure out what's wrong with it in a few hours at worst or a few minutes at best.
@kennethng8346
@kennethng8346 Рік тому
Note: lateral trading of supplies was very common in world war 2. Stories are almost legendary of how many trades got lined up to be able to get a needed part.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
@MaxwellAerialPhotography Рік тому
Certain units, especially amongst the American and Canadian armies became rather notorious for their ability steal or otherwise acquire weapons and equipment beyond their standard allocation to rather absurd degrees. A Korean War tanker veteran i used to work with a local military museum once told me a story, where his unit traded a jeep trailer full of Canadian Army issue whiskey, for a trailer full of M1 Carbines and Sherman tank parts.
@Lyserdigi
@Lyserdigi Рік тому
AMAZING LUCK !! I just got my lunch ready, and NEW PERUN ANALYSIS VIDEO was released just as a sat down and was pondering on what to watch while i eat.. Your Videos are among the best i've come across from Ukraine, and the war in general, and your point of view is quite unique, and highly interesting.. Thank you very much for the effort of making these, you are of greatest help in making the world understand the complexities of conflict !! Thank you !
@carkid266
@carkid266 Рік тому
we all enjoy those talk casts while work or eat. hehe.
@brsrc759
@brsrc759 Рік тому
This channel is my favorite during meal time as well
@daejavue69
@daejavue69 Рік тому
Spot on have been following since Feb 22 2022 & getting to see through the fog of war has been a search to find truth & real info , this guy does it all .
@brsrc759
@brsrc759 Рік тому
@@daejavue69 "speak the truth" and "Animarchy" are also great channels to follow
@DogeickBateman
@DogeickBateman Рік тому
@@brsrc759 I'll add in Operator Starsky, Denys Davydov and Jake Broe
@marmotman151
@marmotman151 Рік тому
"Tank factories aren't exactly known for their maneuverability." Except, of course, when the Kharkov tank plant went on holiday to the Urals in the opening stages of Barbarossa.
@lkrnpk
@lkrnpk Рік тому
who knows, maybe now it has gone on holiday over the Polish border :D
@charlesphillips4575
@charlesphillips4575 Рік тому
@@lkrnpk Just sending skilled people to a Polish tank plant would increase the number of hours it could operate.
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC Рік тому
didn't the Soviets also steal/loot some entire Japanese factories in China at the end of the war? and Mao was pissed about it?
@Ralathon12
@Ralathon12 Рік тому
To be fair at the time it was moved it could be hardly considered a tank factory. Initially it produced freight cars. Modern tank factories tend to require a bit more complexity that yoinking some heavy machinery and turning it into a tank production facility is a bit of an ask. Otherwise we'd see a wave of Russian Lada tanks start rolling into Ukraine.
@angrydoggy9170
@angrydoggy9170 Рік тому
@@Ralathon12 Having owned a 70’s Lada, I’m thinking they have a better survivability than the average Russian tank and definitely easier to repair.
@paulmasterson386
@paulmasterson386 Рік тому
Volodomir Zolkin interviewed a Russian tanker who was sent into battle in a tank whose auto loader wasn’t working. Predictably his tank was destroyed and his commander killed,but he survived with bad burns.
@hummerskickass
@hummerskickass Рік тому
How in the fuck did he survive getting cooked alive? That gunner has no idea how extraordinarily Lucky he is he didn’t go up with the rest of the tank.
@Shadow-1949
@Shadow-1949 Рік тому
@@hummerskickass this is where I learned a phrase that has extreme meaning “Cook off “ that’s when the contents of a burning tank (soldiers) cook from the fire that’s burning up the tank .
@hummerskickass
@hummerskickass Рік тому
@@Shadow-1949 it’s a horrible way to go and is probably the most common fate of most Soviet style tank crews.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 Рік тому
Imagine being in a Russian tank unit and staring down the barrel of the tank you personally left in a ditch a month or two prior.
@charlesmoss8119
@charlesmoss8119 Рік тому
Oh gosh - like others have said, these briefings (yes I do feel like a member of a general staff at times due to the quality of the work) are a high point of f my weekend and I simply can not thank You enough!
@zxb995511
@zxb995511 Рік тому
Sun Tzu, says that "a wagon of captured supplies from the enemy is worth 20 of your own".
@LongTran-em6hc
@LongTran-em6hc Рік тому
Finally a real quote from my favorite strategist lol
@Oscar_SanJuan
@Oscar_SanJuan Рік тому
I just want to express my appreciation for this Channel once again. American news media is so flooded with narratives and opinion pieces that it is such a relief to see a news source such as yourself lay the info out in the most objective way possible and draw rational conclusions. A viewer on your channel can draw their own reasonable conclusions rather than replicate an opinion told by an opinion piece. Again, it's a such a breath of fresh air. Also pleasantly surprised with the new release day of Saturday instead of Sunday (I'm in Nevada). Really looking forward to your "partial" mobilization video!
@elf8585
@elf8585 Рік тому
I am a zero-level noob when it comes to Perun's areas of expertise, but I just love this channel. Perun, you explain these complex topics so that even I can understand them, I learn something, AND you're entertaining. Thank you for your hard work!
@gunman47
@gunman47 Рік тому
Very cool and nice to see the Chieftain guest starring here, Perun. I always enjoy your Powerpoint like videos and often they help to understand the war in Ukraine more in depth and details. Thank you for your hard work!
@terrywarner8657
@terrywarner8657 Рік тому
At about 31:00 Nick mentions how maintenance functions have been pushed forward to battalion level in current US Army doctrine. That is a force multiplier right there! Keep the crews with their tanks. Keep the subunits (more) together for cohesion. Keep the maintainers close and fixing small problems before they get bigger, and teaching the crews a fair share of Self-Recovery.
@jonathansibrian695
@jonathansibrian695 Рік тому
and if it gets overrun you loss the repair crew too
@disturbingdevelopment4308
@disturbingdevelopment4308 Рік тому
Reminds me of the war planes during WWII returning to base, where maintenance guys would meet the plane/pilot upon landing for immediate inspections and repairs. In the hangar not far away, there'd be guys exchanging engines, wings, and Jerry-rigging stuff. But that is a luxury the planes have - they can travel back to their repair shops.
@sf4137
@sf4137 Рік тому
This is essential in manufacturing also - integrate maintenance within production lines to minimize overall downtime.
@covenant05
@covenant05 Рік тому
@@jonathansibrian695 yeah, but the risk of being overrun drops significantly if the enemy can't do the same thing you're doing. If the attacker has to drive 100miles back for repairs then the chance of overrunning you diminishes. But yeah high risk, high reward. Its effectiveness will be proven in actual warfare.
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen Рік тому
It's a "we don't lose" approach... so you better not lose.
@fclp67
@fclp67 Рік тому
This channel gets the rare bell award. Good to listen to, reliable information, reliable schedule. Good job Mr Australia.
@letsgetsteve
@letsgetsteve Рік тому
"There is nothing more permanent then a temporary repair that works"
@paulrevere2379
@paulrevere2379 Рік тому
I have had my trusty ax for 40 years. Only two new heads and four new handles. 🙂
@jeffreyklute8390
@jeffreyklute8390 Рік тому
The hole in the gas tank on my Subaru that was plugged by a screw and epoxy will be there the day the entire vehicle is finally scrapped.
@Tuck-Shop
@Tuck-Shop 4 місяці тому
On my first car part of the cooling system loop was damaged and me, my dad and neighbour done a temporary repair. A mechanic wanted to change the part it was attached to 2 years later. They struggled to remove it.
@roninhusky8492
@roninhusky8492 Рік тому
Never would i have thought id be exited for power point presentations that are hours long, but here i am and im loving it!
@petertrudelljr
@petertrudelljr Рік тому
made that comment elsewhere. Who knew I'd be so absorbed with hour-long powerpoint presentations every week and look forward to the next one... for six months.
@MelleLaCruze
@MelleLaCruze Рік тому
I love the idea of Ukrainian forces setting economy based on captured vehicles. I could just imagined someone craigslist's posting; T-72, Single owner, no rust on the underside with slight paint scratches Fully intact non cardboard ERA. Aftermarket cope cage Scope and thermal gunsight delete Autoloader doesn't jam High mileage but the engine is running good. Willing to trade for any BMD-4s No lowballer, I know what I have.
@gabrielandradeferraz386
@gabrielandradeferraz386 Рік тому
Absolutely hilarious
@disturbingdevelopment4308
@disturbingdevelopment4308 Рік тому
Yeah, but I live in Australia, can you pls estimate shipping costs?
@yeugeniuss
@yeugeniuss Рік тому
I bit of blood and shit inside but all cleaned out.
@gabrielandradeferraz386
@gabrielandradeferraz386 Рік тому
@@disturbingdevelopment4308 a combat trained pet emu and nato will cover shiping costs
@catc8927
@catc8927 Рік тому
@@gabrielandradeferraz386 But the shipping costs for the combat trained emu’s gotta be substantial. I mean, I don’t want to be the one who has to tell it to sit down and push its tray table back during takeoff and landing.
@dawnfallon6812
@dawnfallon6812 Рік тому
One Statement sums it all up for me. "....The Ukrainian Farmers saw their chance."
@harls9287
@harls9287 Рік тому
Farmers anywhere are not predisposed to throw anything away, especially if town is more than 30 miles away. Good vid as always. Thanks
@bravosixactual3000
@bravosixactual3000 Рік тому
"An Iron Harvest" got me rolling on the floor
@flightofone
@flightofone Рік тому
Man, I was worried with such a boring sounding topic, but you never fail to impress. Great job! "Expedient repairs, aka 'bodge job', ie: duct tape the armor back in place." Priceless.
@petertrudelljr
@petertrudelljr Рік тому
These 'boring sounding topics' are really fascinating. Just like logistics... this is REALLY how to make an efficient army. Boom-boom stuff gets all the applause, but this is the truly fascinating stuff that gets an army where it can do that. I love it.
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock Рік тому
@@petertrudelljr Who would've thought that the "boring" topic of the things that really win wars ie economics supply and logistics could be so fascinating, Perun has a talent many professional teachers and instructors lack, to be able to impart knowledge with a little dash of humour to make it stick.
@lukestroud9630
@lukestroud9630 Рік тому
Babe wake up perun posted another objective and comprehensive video covering issues no one else is. Your work is brilliant sprinkled with a nice dash of aussie sarcasm. Love it.
@igotes
@igotes Рік тому
In my experience, farmers are pretty competent mechanics. My father was a farmer and motor mechanic. I never saw him tow a tank, though; I guess I should be grateful for that. Would have been pretty fun to shred up the fields with a tank, not sure dad would agree.
@jellybean2682
@jellybean2682 Рік тому
“Civilian personnel […] are auxiliary armored recovery assets” favorite Perun quote of all time.
@knpark2025
@knpark2025 Рік тому
As a long-time player of many looter-shooter games, I finally understand why maintenance companies increase equipment capture in HOI4. This is an eye-opener, thank you for the quality content.
@MineTheGresh
@MineTheGresh Рік тому
Great Collaboration with The Chieftain. Sets the recovery and reuse context really well. Well done. Loads of information. Going to have to watch again. I will pop over to Nick's channel for track tensioning tips for Soviet era ARV's 🙂
@jloiben12
@jloiben12 Рік тому
56:00 Perun: Artillery shouldn’t really be captured as artillery is generally stationed behind the front lines. Unless it is the Kharkiv counteroffensive. That made me laugh a little
@lunachu8691
@lunachu8691 Рік тому
Tell the Chieftain he’s a legend for pronouncing ‘schedule’ both ways. This is a sign of a worldly, considerate and intelligent man and my trust in his statements just went up 50%.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon Рік тому
that's just weird. Usually when you choose a dialect, you stick to it for eloquence sake
@lunachu8691
@lunachu8691 Рік тому
@@carlosandleon No, it’s an international audience and it shows respect. There are a handful of words in the English language that bizarrely induce patriotic fervour. Football/Soccer for example. Rather than alienate people he simply recognised there are alternative pronunciations. Took half a second but won my respect.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon Рік тому
@@lunachu8691 It's unecessary and inconsistent. There are better ways to do it than be inconsistent in pronunciation. At best it's a positively seen from people like you, at worst it's a disrespect to both dialedr - more to the American one.
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon Рік тому
@@lunachu8691 And I bet my left nut, he didn't mean it intentionally at all
@brycesweeney6792
@brycesweeney6792 Рік тому
Honestly, as an American, I can't recover from such a devastating betrayal of my trust. Totally ruined the whole power point, just devastating. A borderline butchering of the American language. 🧐🇺🇸🧐🇺🇸
@gregb2
@gregb2 Рік тому
the bit about captured Russian equipment replacing pet photos on dating apps, genius 🤣
@maurvir3197
@maurvir3197 Рік тому
We are all getting very spoiled to having world-class presentations on these topics every week. Great job! I also second the motion of getting you and some of the other really great mil vloggers together on larger projects. You all are doing what no mainstream news network will ever do, and we are the better for it.
@danielvagsholm2817
@danielvagsholm2817 Рік тому
I was just reading through MoD and ISW twitter feeds, thinking "Hasn't Perun posted a video this week?", and lo and behold! Love your stuff, keep it up!
@vendetta8022
@vendetta8022 Рік тому
Field repairing is a topic people usually ignored but it is as important as frontline battles, good to see there is an expert could explain it!
@locust7186
@locust7186 Рік тому
Those Krasukha-4 and Regata captures are unbelievably huge. Great presentation as always.
@FL0D0S
@FL0D0S Рік тому
I'm absolutely overjoyed that you've been growing well enough to collab with a big name like the Chieftain. Your takes are unique and invaluable, and I'm glad to see you starting to get the recognition you deserve!
@TheChieftainsHatch
@TheChieftainsHatch Рік тому
I figure the rate he's going, in about two months he's going to be the big name. He's overhauling my subscriber count fairly quickly
@phoneowner2664
@phoneowner2664 Рік тому
I just want to comment on your work ethic. Your videos are always long, well researched and properly narrated. Furthermore, you upload these videos like a soviet factory. First of all, I want to congratulate you, second of all, I want to know how you manage to do it all? Cheers!
@talltroll7092
@talltroll7092 Рік тому
>> you upload these videos like a soviet factory. So, below quota, lacking QA, and infused with vodka?
@dx-ek4vr
@dx-ek4vr Рік тому
@@talltroll7092 And also where General Oligarkov stole most of the production funds to buy himself a mansion
@jjcoola998
@jjcoola998 Рік тому
@@talltroll7092 lol I get what he meant but this was my first thought as well 😂
@phoneowner2664
@phoneowner2664 Рік тому
@@talltroll7092 Talking about the speed not quality lol
@phoneowner2664
@phoneowner2664 Рік тому
@@talltroll7092 Ok, a well supplied soviet factory, and ignoring quality. Works now I hope.
@davewestner
@davewestner Рік тому
@perun kudos to you for keeping this really interesting. I care a lot about the situation in Ukraine, but I'm really not that into some of the subjects you discuss on this channel. Yet week after week, post after post, I find myself hitting play to see if it is a subject I'm into, and regardless if it is or isn't, I get totally sucked in to the entire episode because it is really well done, made super interesting for a layperson like myself and I also enjoy the humor. Great work, and thank you.
@danielc9312
@danielc9312 Рік тому
Best breakdown on recovery I have seen so far. Thanks for the extra efforts you put in for us.
@Adjudicator1
@Adjudicator1 Рік тому
Nice video. I am so reminded of salvage rules from the Battletech / MechWarrior games, Even the single player campaign engineer from MechWarrior 4 has this golden line "Capture the enemy's supplies and equipment, and you hurt them double."
@TheoEvian
@TheoEvian Рік тому
"Basically a NATO army. Soviet era equipment." Half of the European NATO countries are still fielding soviet era stuff because they never got around to actually spend money on defense (at least until 2014 and aquisition takes a lot of time).
@herptek
@herptek Рік тому
The objective of a good defence policy is not to spend as much money as possible but to have as capable and large army as possible. It would be a complete waste to do away with the soviet-designed equipment simply because it doesn't cost as much to keep it than to replace it before it is worn out by use.
@michaelwaldmeier1601
@michaelwaldmeier1601 Рік тому
By the time that the former East Bloc countries have depleted most or all of the Soviet era weapons, they will budget for new, upgraded NATO-specific stuff and the education and training will undergo improvements too.
@herptek
@herptek Рік тому
@@contentsdiffer5958 Only domestic arms industry is a real answer to the most cost-intensive items for long term. People often forget that there is always the short term to deal with before we get into the long term.
@herptek
@herptek Рік тому
@@PodreyJenkin138 I wouldn't hold my breath with that. EU is too disunited to have an army and with NATO already in place where most EU countries are already members, there is little incentive to any established power to push for it either, except Brussels and their sworn fanatics. National armies are the future of European security if there is any to begin with.
@lkrnpk
@lkrnpk Рік тому
well I think Baltics have relatively little Soviet stuff left, but that is also cause they did not start with much of the Soviet equipment anyway...
@robmckrill3134
@robmckrill3134 Рік тому
Mate I'm proud 👏 of you and your productions, you stay focused and unbiased with your appraisals of the situation 👍 👏
@themoonman-4
@themoonman-4 Рік тому
Extremely informative, Thank You! For the Chieftain, will check him out!
@Bigdangleebles
@Bigdangleebles Рік тому
Seriously the best channel on YT I have seen! Amazing amount of effort and really appreciated
@blake2912
@blake2912 Рік тому
Once again, brilliant analysis! Also, your humor and satirical comments remind me of a great American writer, Mark Twain. Different centuries, but absolutely spot on! Please keep it coming.
@crunky833
@crunky833 Рік тому
For people that's curious about why all equipment was left undamaged without signes of attepmts to damage it before retreat. The reason is, that russian army is highly centralized, where high command order is your top priority on one hand, and on the other, you're responsable for any damage that's equipment get while you posses it. So if you report that you damaged tank while retreat, there is big chance that you gonna get punished for it. So regular conscriptovich delaying any action that can make him repsonsible for the damage of equimpent in his possesion to the point when there is no time to do sabotaging acts. Then UA rolling in and getting fresh and intact armor/spgs/electronics and cool meme photos.
@kiwihame
@kiwihame Рік тому
Interesting, thanks!
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Рік тому
They also camp at a considerable distance from the tanks, in case of drone or artillery attack, so when the Ukrainians rolled in, they ran in the other direction. Ain't no time to run to the tank, sabotage it, then run away.
@geronimo5537
@geronimo5537 Рік тому
likely these vehicles broke down or got stuck in some fashion. so they waited in place for recovery vehicles to arrive. except that takes lots of time and equipment to move around across a period of days. so the equipment left on the battle field gets left alone as the front lines are pushed around in either direction. ukraine has been noted on attacking recovery vehicles as a priority. I think this video highlights the reason why. if nothing can be recovered by russia. then russia shall supply ukraine. simple enough. though, as said above, conscriptovich is not going to care about the war itself and that is entirely at the fault of their command structure making it's soldiers take blame for when issues occur thus causing fear instead of promoting organization. instead of reporting a issue they instead fear punishment and let the problem remain hidden. given how many of these russian soldiers were forced to fight or live in prison for refusal. I really believe the fighting force has no true motive to invade outside their government's public statements. I have respect for both sides. the russians for answering the call of duty along with their public protests to leave the war; and respect for the ukrainians fighting for their country's existence from a much larger force. at the end of the day I do wonder if nato is to blame here though. if russia joined nato in the early 2000s like it tried to do. would this even be happening? I really dont believe it would be as russia clearly wants it's soviet era buffer states back as spacing away from nato's umbrella. who would nato be if there was no bad guy I suppose.
@ntnzelenin
@ntnzelenin Рік тому
Watching your video from Ukraine, it's amazing😂 I didn't fully believe we had so few losses compared to russia and captured so many russian equipment, but now I trust reports of our MoD much more and russian mobilization of, possibly, 1 mln people looks less scary, thank you for that P.S. Ukrainian Armed Forces are beasts❤
@velvetmagnetta3074
@velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому
@Anton Zelenin - Ukraine's MoD and the gov in general have been incredibly accurate with their numbers and information. I expected a bit more propaganda (in a good way), but they are using the Truth to fight Russian disinformation. I think this method totally throws off the Russian gov to the point they don't know how to respond and clumsily reply with even lower-quality obvious propaganda videos than before...and when that doesn't work, they just pull the Nuke Card. I'm so impressed with the Ukrainians' honor and restraint with which you are executing this war. Lord knows we would all understand if your gov or soldiers or civilians periodically lose it, but instead, we're witnessing a people united and with a clear and righteous goal. The war videos, the trolling of Russia on Twitter and Telegram, the daily chats where Zelensky periodically praises and admonishes the West, the endless Soldiers caring for animals vids - they are all a part of a unique and masterful local and world-wide mobilization to preserve freedom and democracy and show how to just plain be a good person!
@stoyanstefanov5460
@stoyanstefanov5460 Рік тому
Right??? I loved that time the Ghost of Kiev swooped down on a Russian tank, and captured it. It was definitely one of the moments of all time. Slova Okraina!!!!!!!!
@velvetmagnetta3074
@velvetmagnetta3074 Рік тому
@@stoyanstefanov5460 - Haha! Yeah! 57,000 dead Russians and counting...oops.
@maninblack6400
@maninblack6400 Рік тому
@@stoyanstefanov5460 ahahaha, you are so funny, I lost it! Keep it up, you are having a career as a comedian ahead of you!
@stoyanstefanov5460
@stoyanstefanov5460 Рік тому
@@maninblack6400 Why thank you, I took comedy classes with Ukraine's clown of a president.
@entropyachieved750
@entropyachieved750 Рік тому
I look forward to this every week. Thanks mate for another well constructed vid
@malcaniscsm5184
@malcaniscsm5184 Рік тому
I feel genuinely educated on this topic. Thanks again for this series.
@lance2465
@lance2465 Рік тому
Thank you Perun and the Chieftain for a great video that is very informative.
@jima1135
@jima1135 Рік тому
I look forward to these presentations every week. Thanks!
@michaelhurlbut4830
@michaelhurlbut4830 Рік тому
"Or you have the occasional weirdo who reads the recovery manual for fun." Left me laughing.
@edwardkennedy6443
@edwardkennedy6443 Рік тому
I remember how we took from one farmer near Konotop two T72 tanks, sau Nona and Buk M1, with which he categorically did not want to part due to the fact that his combine was destroyed and he could remake this air defense system for his needs. Only when we presented him with Ural and the sapper trailer did he reluctantly agree to give us the equipment. 93 brigade had a harder time, dozens, if not hundreds of Russian armor fell into their hands. Сommand gave the order, if possible, to immediately use captured equipment against the enemy, but the problem was that somewhere around 30-40% of all equipment was unusable without long-term repairs as a result of combat damage, or deliberate sabotage by its crew. Despite the fact that most of the repair facilities managed to be evacuated to where Russian missiles are not dangerous for them, the issue of transferring equipment for repairs remains open even now. Based on my observations, approximately only one of the five tanks could be used again in combat right from the spot. The rest, were used for spare parts and as stationary firing points. If we are talking about, say, the Pantsir complex, then its intended use is generally impossible, due to the lack of ammunition we need for it, but its radar capabilities are quite useful. At the same time, complexes such as Thor and Buk can be used immediately. BTR is a separate issue altogether. Most of them can be used immediately, but we still have a large number of domestic combat modules that allow us to increase their effectiveness. But again, there is not always time for complex improvements and more often you have to make do with field repairs. EW systems are also very valuable. For the capture of one of them, guys from the tro battalion were almost immediately given state awards.
@disturbingdevelopment4308
@disturbingdevelopment4308 Рік тому
Sounds interesting. Any more info would be great!
@klown463
@klown463 Рік тому
Ok “Edward Kennedy”
@edwardkennedy6443
@edwardkennedy6443 Рік тому
@@disturbingdevelopment4308 actually it's not that interesting. All this is hard and monotonous work, the results of which are mostly invisible to those who carry them out, but are of key importance for the final result.
@edwardkennedy6443
@edwardkennedy6443 Рік тому
@@klown463 ok "Klown")
@BenjaminVestergaard
@BenjaminVestergaard Рік тому
I asked operator Starsky how recovery was working. The answer was basically that when they find equipment or ammo the EOD gets flagged where to go, and if their engineers deem it safe, it goes straight back to the front. Otherwise it'll be evaluated whether to be spare parts or whatever.
@stephenreese5921
@stephenreese5921 Рік тому
The “Chieftain” is one of my favorite UKpostsrs to watch. His in-depth knowledge of U.S. Army and other countries “tanks and armored vehicles” comes from his love of the genera and his service in the U.S. Army. Perun is right to include him in this analysis, as he is an expert in all things armor. Much like Perun is right to include Denys Davydov, as an on site evaluator of Ukrainian moral and will to fight. I applaud Mr. Perun for his in-depth Open Source (OS-INT) Intelligence analysis. Something that I became appreciative of in Afghanistan. It (OSINT) was routinely used by active military intelligence operators in theater. 😃
@GARDENER42
@GARDENER42 Рік тому
Another superb presentation. Clear, concise & easy to digest. Thanks much.
@MrWhiteyPt
@MrWhiteyPt Рік тому
"This was the front where at the end of a long road through such scenic locations as the Chernobyl exclusion zone..." that bit really cracked me up!
@kentswan3230
@kentswan3230 Рік тому
Thanks. This was an area that I was wondering about. Also thanks to Chieftain for sharing his expertise!
@robdidur11310
@robdidur11310 Рік тому
BRILLIANT episode, sir 👏 Thank you, great to see the Chieftain making yet another guest appearance...!! Peace and respect from northern BC 🇨🇦
@aimeelinekar3902
@aimeelinekar3902 Рік тому
You are phenomenal. Thank you!
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 Рік тому
I would really like to see you, Ryan McBeth, and Joe Broe put together a news agency for this kind of stuff. The three of you would be worlds ahead of legacy news on these matters.
@monsoonmadness3743
@monsoonmadness3743 Рік тому
And Ukraine Matters 🇺🇦 🇺🇦🇺🇦
@barrybolton1396
@barrybolton1396 Рік тому
Lazer Pig isn't bad either
@acarrillo8277
@acarrillo8277 Рік тому
@@barrybolton1396 I knew I was forgetting someone
@user-vp9lc9up6v
@user-vp9lc9up6v Рік тому
Idk Ryan McBeth crying that NYT came up with their own analysis that resembles most other conclusions around because of the methods and limited information available was kind of unprofessional I guess
@luckyjalyt
@luckyjalyt Рік тому
John Deere's new slogan: Nothing runs like a Russian
@richardthomas598
@richardthomas598 Рік тому
🤣
@jeffreyklute8390
@jeffreyklute8390 Рік тому
🤣
@kayallen7603
@kayallen7603 Рік тому
Another great video!!! I married a Slovenian and yes, if he comes across "spare parts" something will soon be fixed. He too enjoys your videos. We're a pair of USAF vets he logistics, me weather forecaster. From the first, using our experiences - knew Russia wasn't going to take Kyiv - attacking using tanks during the spring thaw?!?! Putin was insane! The upcoming winter, used to it you Russian's think you are - watch while all your electronics freeze up when one good "Siberian Express" rolls in.
@kiwihame
@kiwihame Рік тому
Another superb presentation Perun. I was waiting for this one and it didn't disappoint. Thanks for dropping videos 1 day earlier than before too. Theres some gold in the comments section. Keep up the awesome work!!
@charlesmoss8119
@charlesmoss8119 Рік тому
I worked with a fella called ‘Bogger Banks’ and the clue is in the name - he was reputed to have been put on earth only to teach recovery crews how to get MBT about of the mire! Interesting to hear how a lack of overall activity reduces recovery skills - I mean old Bogger would have made his battalion absolute experts in recovery!
@janeteholmes
@janeteholmes Рік тому
I can’t believe the stuff I can learn on UKposts. It’s amazing. Love your work!
@50043211
@50043211 8 місяців тому
"... he gonna have some questions!" Questions that need answering!
@ikt32
@ikt32 Рік тому
Much appreciated for pretty much everything! Hope the conflict simmers down when mud season kicks in, so you can have a short break, these past weeks have had immense developments. (And I'm also reading about something brewing in the south too...)
@OTOss8
@OTOss8 Рік тому
The crossover I've been waiting for. What a treat!
@nenasiek
@nenasiek Рік тому
1 thing that should be noted is that Finland doesnt really disclose what they send to ukraine. Finland has spent the last cpl of decades buying up old russian equipment. They might be sending large amounts of it but we wont know until the end of the war.
@user-su6qv9yf1u
@user-su6qv9yf1u Рік тому
Brilliant as always! Keep up doing great work.
@anniethemese1215
@anniethemese1215 Рік тому
I absolutely LOVE this channel. Consistently fascinating. Many thanks from Canada.
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