Cheap Bike vs Superbike - How Much Faster Is An Expensive Road Bike and Equipment?

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Is an expensive road bike and top-of-the-range cycling kit noticeably faster than a much cheaper entry-level road bike and equipment? To find out we pit an S-Works Tarmac SL7 against a £350 Cannondale Caad10. The definitive answer to cheap bike vs superbike!
Road cycling, road bikes, cycling equipment and cycling kit all cost a fortune but is the difference between an expensive road bike and a cheap road bike too big to ignore if you want to go fast on a road bike? road.cc do real-life testing to find out how much slower a cheap road bike and equipment is and then discuss where you can make the most cost-effective road bike upgrades.
How much road cycling speed can you buy? And is it worth it for your road cycling? Let us know in the comments section below...
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@stanislavkindiakov6334 7 місяців тому

3000% price for 1.6% speed. Sounds as a great deal 😅

@YuichiTamaki 7 місяців тому

If your Salary depends on it... but for the rest... hell no!!!

@eaglearrowz 6 місяців тому

If ur in a race 1.6% speed even matters a lot

@stanislavkindiakov6334 6 місяців тому

@@eaglearrowz if you earn living by racing - yes.

@elgoogssie3969 Місяць тому

Probably change the gear ration on the cheeper one and they bouth would have equal times... But as my wife one said, "it's not ma matter of having something expensive, it's a matter of showing You can aford it". The discussion was about plastic surgery, but i quess it can be applied to every matter.

@gk5891 23 дні тому

A few years go a UCI Pro ran a manufactures basic 105 Di2 ($3250 or so now) race bike against their $10,000 more expensive team bike. Over a nearly 2 hour climbing stage the difference was 1%. It ain't the tool, it's the mechanic.

@4bdu114h 7 місяців тому

Are you seriously telling me that all we have gained from CAAD10 to SL7 is 1.6%? Wasn't the CAAD12 supposed to be 5% faster than the CAAD10! We're just being made to look like fools if we're buying the latest bikes when the older bikes aren't really any slower!

@Simon_is_not_sure 7 місяців тому

Bike drag reduction is 5%

@CoolStoryBroCycling 7 місяців тому

Cool cycling story bro.

@yukiko_5051 7 місяців тому

No one forcing you to buy new bikes every year

@littlevo9 7 місяців тому

Leur parcours n’a pas de dénivelé ni un mauvais revêtement…les vélos d’aujourd’hui sont très efficaces sur mauvais revêtements et en côte les vélos récents font merveille

@gerrysecure5874 7 місяців тому

Bike itself has virtually no effect compared to wheels and body position. Your fault if you follow marketing hype without thinking.

@SimonGoesSideways 7 місяців тому

I’m willing to bet the caad10 would be 3/4 seconds faster with deeper wheels and then the difference will be negligible. No point then spending £10k plus !

@bernardo9202 7 місяців тому

How much was that caad 10 worth at the moment of buying? like a cheap orbea with 105 and carbon aero wheels is faster that said caad 10 with dura ace and alloy wheels, for sure, even at +2kilo

@daviddawn9043 7 місяців тому

@@bernardo9202 well put it this way I have caad12 cost me 500, even if I got 1000 wheels , massively cheaper and the caad12 is a fast bike, it wouldn't be much different to this sl7 which is 12k at least. So that speaks for itself . And yes it aluminium bike but I had a willier Cento 10 pro before caad12 and I prefer the caad is it brilliant ride

@johnhirka654 7 місяців тому

Instead of buying a “cheap” bike , buy a used bike for $2500 that was once $10,000 three years ago Problem solved

@Cloud007. 7 місяців тому

Why? I bought a giant tcr with 105 all round for 600euro, 3years old. That's all the bike any novice to intermediate needs. Pro is different. 2500 - no need at all.

@johnhirka654 7 місяців тому

@@Cloud007. I think you missed the point… I’m just giving a Ballpark, but the idea is the same

@Cloud007. 7 місяців тому

@@johnhirka654 Yes but to me, 2500 is 400% too expensive. I see your point but people don't realise that all you need is 500-600 for a great bike.

@johnhirka654 7 місяців тому

@@Cloud007. I find the $2000 mark to be the sweet spot to get a top end used bike. But I have certainly had less then and I agree. Whatever floats your boat!

@yukiko_5051 7 місяців тому

I don't think i could trust a 10k bike being sold at 2.5k. Usually it's because the frame is cracked, that's why they sell it cheap

@dmv4554 7 місяців тому

My take away is how good the cheap bike is

@chickenpoodle 7 місяців тому

yeah some of the CAADs and Allez's are just so much bike for the money. with the big dollars you save on the frame, you can get some pretty nice components, and suddenly you got a really good performing bike on a very practical and long lasting frame, and still have money left over for good fitting kit and helmet.

@thegearboxman 6 місяців тому

Exactly. For my 'runaround' bike I have an old aluminium Halfords Zelos frame with a 105 groupset and cheap Shimano wheels, and other than for the 'feel' it's just as fast as my Ridley Noah with all the bells and whistles. Cost about 500 quid for the Zelos vs. over 5K for the Ridley. Don't get me wrong, it's a pleasure to ride the Ridley, but for the average rider we shouldn't fool ourselves that the bike makes any significant difference once you spend more than a few hundred quid on a bike and put it on decent tyres.

@andreemurray7039 7 місяців тому

Still down to rider how fit you are so that's how fast you go

@gerrysecure5874 7 місяців тому

Feeling stiffness when out of saddle ok, I take it, but otherwise its entirely psychological. The low tire pressure hype makes the whole feeling fluffy no matter how stiff the frame. Bike aero is negligible, just a marketing hype. Body position and wheels is all that counts.

@rangersmith4652 7 місяців тому

A decent aluminum or steel road bike with aluminum wheels, exposed cables operating rim brakes and 2x9 or higher derailleurs, and good tires with inner tubes will be a very satisfying experience for nearly every rider, and it will be 95% as fast as the bikes ridden by pros. If you want to go faster, spend your savings on a professional fit and a professional trainer.

@elgoogssie3969 Місяць тому

it's not a matter of riding experience. It's a matter of showing other that You can afford such bike. It gives +10 to confidence and speed :)

@shinn43 7 місяців тому

The worst part of all these comparisons, they never compare with equipment swap such as: - same tires - same wheels - same cockpit/handlebars Majority of the gains are from these and not the frame.

@nluisa 7 місяців тому

Totally. My experience of high end tyres/tubes from mid range tyres/butyl is over 1km/h average speed. It seems the cannondale is fitted with conti 4seasons or gatorskins, none of which is a quick tyre. Upgrading the rubber alone would greatly improve the results, let alone with a kit+wheel upgrade. Frames are such a small percentage of the total drag, particularly for larger riders, and yet brands keep selling the idea that a new frameset will suddenly make everyone quicker. PS: and has anyone heard of weight lifting and structured training? I can guarantee it will seriously improve the speed for very little cost.

@tombola4046 7 місяців тому

But then a £200 bike wouldn’t be a £200 bike if you are putting £3k worth of wheels, cockpit and tires onto it. Surely the point of the video was to compare a ££££ vs £

@fiatfixie4344 7 місяців тому

Understood, but I think it's the "ALL of these comparisons" part that resonates. These channels seem to go out of their way to avoid delving into how easily an older bike can be made more competitive. You never see them comparing a mildly restomoded older bike against a modern $5000 bike. They always compare the opposite extremes.

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

Thanks for the suggestion! We will get on it!

@11robotics 7 місяців тому

@@nluisa you are 100% right about the various major sources of drag, the frame being the least relevant of them all. Tyres, wheels and even a thoroughly clean and well adjusted transmission are far more relevant than all that aero optimised and integrated malarkey. Even a suitable frame geometry for your own body's needs may help you produce a higher power output in a more efficient manner relative to whatever is to be gained by getting rid of exposed cables or "slamming that stem". Weight lifting and structured training, though, on top of not being mutually exclusive with having a nice/fast/expensive bike, take time, dedication and energy that one may or may not have. And time is money anyway 😁 also, don't forget the mental factor in the training process - I know more than one lads who took a break or given up competitive cycling because of mental burnouts due to all the relentless indoor/outdoor structured training they went through, to the point where they couldn't even stand the sight of a bike for a while. So not all are born or grown equal, and weight lifting or structured training come with a different cost to various people.

@mischief2168 7 місяців тому

A change of tyres on the Cannondale might have made it the faster bike given that the margins are that small.

@adccars359 7 місяців тому

gp5ks and some latex that sl7 is outta there 😂😂😂

@sirdmayo 6 місяців тому

Yup

@death2pc 4 місяці тому

Get a clue. Get a reality.

@mischief2168 4 місяці тому

@@death2pc Get sober.

@JamesEvans-ow1wc 7 місяців тому

*Excellent* The rider matters MUCH more than the bike

@EnricoGaletta 7 місяців тому

Great video guys, I'm big time convinced that it is the biker and not the bike that makes a difference. I can see when I reach the same results with my vintage steel post-modern bike, than people who ride on top bikes. It's all about marketing for bikers outside the pro circuits of course

@thedownunderverse 7 місяців тому

Yep.

@M.F.Hafizhan 7 місяців тому

"less upgrades, more riding up grades"

@EnricoGaletta 7 місяців тому

@@M.F.Hafizhan exactly 👌 big time

@MauriSky2437 7 місяців тому

I am living proof that more fitness equals more speed.

@AllanPhillips 7 місяців тому

Very good to know how little difference there is between those bikes and the clothing.

@daviddjerassi 7 місяців тому

Thank you a no BS honest video i applaud you both for such a refreshing video where can i find a Caad 10 please ?.

@DavidFritzIII 7 місяців тому

Agree with many comments here... you can buy a 350 quid bike, upgrade to fast tyres and maybe fresh wheel bearings, get a good fit, all under 5-600 total, the speed difference will be very small

@DavidFritzIII 7 місяців тому

But, being a rider on a premium bike, what a nice bike does is not go fast, but makes you smile when you ride it... in the end, the 10k is worth it, but not for the speed.

@Sutlore007 7 місяців тому

It is very informative and well conducted test for the whole very different 2 systems

@kovar2344 7 місяців тому

solid mid range pair of wheels and descent tires does so much for a cheaper bike. Great video!

@swites 7 місяців тому

For an amateur where there is such a wide range of abilities from 2w/kg to 5w/kg etc, who is pushing the pedals is so much more important.

@TheBassallyear100 7 місяців тому

other than the feel of responsiveness i wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the time savings came from the tires.

@shreyasc331 7 місяців тому

Well, look at the new Tarmac SL8...the marketing text says its 16 seconds faster over a 40km course, for the same power ... although they're talking about someone averaging close to 25mph. My numbers are nowhere near that and im guessing most people aren't that quick either, so in reality its all meaningless. I suppose its all a question of margins. You would think it would make sense to say 'get 95% of the performance for a fifth of the cost', but I'm guessing the bike companies are more interested in selling ten $10k bikes than 50 $2k bikes.

@Dreamweaver94 7 місяців тому

I'd reckon whatever kind of kit makes you want to ride more and maybe feel faster is worth it. Especially if you got a used bike that was good back in it's day.

@user-ee2tl2qr9x 2 місяці тому

An S-Works is nice and all, but joining a 36kmh, 110km group ride on my $100 Specialised touring bike (with pannier rack) was priceless. Honestly I thought the difference would be closer to 10%

@DangerAmbrose 7 місяців тому

This is the wrong question. The real question is who has more money for coffee after the ride?

@DanielEarlester 7 місяців тому

Get the expensive bike then.

@mathewkirk1748 7 місяців тому

I just moved from a $2000NZD alloy Domane to a $10k Emonda with ENVE 65s. Does the bike go 5x faster? Hell no. Is it 5x better? Hell no. Does it go 3kph faster and transitions into better run legs? Hell yes. Do I now finish my races 10 minutes faster? Hell yes. Comparisons like this never stack up. The money buys enough fractional speed and comfort to finish races minutes faster, and minutes mean podiums over top-10s over and over again, and that is where the value sits. Obviously it comes down to the rider and all of the other perfectly appropriate factors. But the least these seemingly endless UKposts comparison videos could do, is compare on real world outcomes rather than the same old results sheet.

@JineeshGeorgeME 6 місяців тому

Agree. Depends on what your end goals are. For a competitive cyclist like you, yes, the bike does matter. For a weekend warrior cum occasional bikepacker like me, it doesn't .

@adccars359 4 місяці тому

The wheels and tires alone should give you 3kph.

@danielgutherman5108 7 місяців тому

Great video

@jaredfontaine2002 7 місяців тому

So top of the bike tech aero etc only had 5 to 10 secs at 300 watts which is a lot. If you rode at 200 watts probably would be nothing lol

@thegearboxman 6 місяців тому

And most of us aren't even close to 200w if we're being honest. Most riders I follow on Strava are in the order of 150-170W over the course of a 3-4 hour ride. At these speeds (25-30kp/h) the two bikes would be virtually identical unless there's a lot of stop/start acceleration, then the light/stiff bike will have the edge.

@jaredfontaine2002 6 місяців тому

@thegearboxman Yeah well your wallet with be very much lighter with the 10k bike. Bike brands have always cheated their customers saying this frame weighs 700 grams but actually weighs 850. If I pay top dollar for a 700 gram frame then it should weigh 700 grams. This aero stuff is even worse because it is much harder to prove one bike is more aerodynamic then another unlike just putting a frame on the scale...

@lukewalker1051 7 місяців тому

The reality... A rider with 5 more watts on the cheap bike will be faster than the guy who wastes his money on the $12K bike. Bike industry is an epic rip off hustling dumb people who think they can buy game. Only reason why pros ride $12K bikes is because they are paid to ride them as advertising. The fastest rider in any club will be the fastest rider on the slowest bike.

@tsctch 7 місяців тому

I am riding CAAD10 with Ultegra (stock from factory). With 50mm stack height carbon wheel, it doesn’t feel much slower than lastest carbon bike. The con is rim brake on carbon wheel.

@yonglingng5640 7 місяців тому

If you're concerned about rim wear but not too much on wheelset weight, check out HED wheels.

@tsctch 7 місяців тому

I am not worry about rim wear. Rather, I am worry about braking in the wet. Thanks for the recommendation

@jean-michelgirard4156 7 місяців тому

In fact it is quicker than most carbon bikes, mate.

@yonglingng5640 7 місяців тому

@@tsctch You're welcome.

@jean-michelgirard4156 7 місяців тому

The CAAD10 is a wonderful bike. Give it some good wheels and a nice group and it will dust your overpriced Specialized.

@daviddawn9043 7 місяців тому

Do the test again with caad12 or 10 or 13, with some.carbon wheels and gp5000 tr s on it and I bet we looking at very similar times

@mmurmurjohnson2368 7 місяців тому

Here we go again, Keep your cheap rig upgrade to deep dish hoops 50s, or 80s if you want prime aero benefits, size down the frame if you want extra stiffness/agility, 25mm tires, 110psi then compare.

@kidShibuya 7 місяців тому

I think all this proved is that there is little point speed wise in buying a more expensive bike.

@death2pc 4 місяці тому

Fun fact. You've been played. Still standing fastest UCI times from the 1950's,1960's, 1970's, 1980's. Yes. From that era. The whole lighter, stiffer and "aero" lie is just that. Hey. Have you used the latest "aero" chain lube, as well, "aero" everything else....?

@StringerBell50 7 місяців тому

So if I'm not wrong it is about 1.2km/h slower on average? Which would be a 1min45s gap over an hour. The same test with good enough aero wheels + good tires within 105%, reasonable aero kit, and cheaply done waxed chain would be interesting and stay in the spirit.

@thegearboxman 6 місяців тому

Yeah, but how many 'average' riders are capable of riding in excess of 40km/h for more than a couple of minutes never mind an hour? My best guess would be zero. This is just another meaningless test that is only applicable to seriously fast riders.

@StringerBell50 6 місяців тому

@@thegearboxman I'm sure a lot of us are capable to do it for at least a couple minutes at once, if you ride in group it means you can take multiple turn doing so. If you race and do crit it is even more relevant, 1.2km/h more speed is significant between gaps.

@pcka12 7 місяців тому

You have to wonder why the saddles are so high in comparison to the handlebars

@cljim22 7 місяців тому

I’d rather see a mid-spec bike vs a pro bike. How does an Ultegra group set bike with basic Hunt carbon wheels and a slightly heavier carbon frame do up against a top end bike?

@bluemystic7501 7 місяців тому

Probably much closer than this.

@thegearboxman 6 місяців тому

@@bluemystic7501 For anyone with an ftp this side of 250w my guess would be no difference whatsoever.

@declan979 7 місяців тому

Tires, tubes, wheels and clothes. Can you do this again with matching tires, tubes, wheels and clothes please.

@erin7995 7 місяців тому

i think the best comparison is a new 10k bike vs 3k bike

@DISCOhooch 7 місяців тому

3:01 wow Mathieu relax

@RichThomas 7 місяців тому

I think there is another aspect you touched on - but then ignored at the end. Presumably spending a lot of cash also buys a lighter version of any cheaper version. And whilst this may only translate into very small speed savings, it does give a tangible boost is the feel of speed and responsiveness? And - since most people are riding for enjoyment not to win races - actually that improved feeling may justify the extra cost?

@stanislavkindiakov6334 7 місяців тому

Spending extra 12k makes your wallet so much lighter, that you climb 5% faster

@4bdu114h 7 місяців тому

I was with you until you said 'justify the extra cost'! 😂

@4bdu114h 7 місяців тому

@@stanislavkindiakov6334😂😂😂

@11robotics 7 місяців тому

If one needs a 25x more expensive bike to enjoy their riding, perhaps it would be time to discuss the matter with a therapist.

@aldrinclementina4297 7 місяців тому

Wait... They also swapped cloths? 😬 People saying that the difference isn't that much?! I don't know if they know that 5 seconds in distance is a different game.

@MaxMax-th7uz 7 місяців тому

As long as road cc , doesn’t start doing super bike vs Chinese 16kg eurobike ! Just for revenues ……

@jayel27 7 місяців тому

Serious question… where did you find a mars bar cause I’ve not seen one in years and have been craving on just as long!

@Damian-ck5lo 7 місяців тому

Come to Australia Mars bars everywhere. Often "half price".

@jayel27 7 місяців тому

@@Damian-ck5lo sounds like a business opportunity for some exporters to the U.S.!

@peteng13 6 місяців тому

Spend another $800-1000 on some carbon wheels and then the difference will basically disappear :)

@luisakinaga 7 місяців тому

To be fair I just ask for a same tires in this kind of comparison.

@andriivaskovets5438 7 місяців тому

Some amazing humor )

@zedddddful 6 місяців тому

For the vast majority of us road riders it's quite pointless buying a top end bike much better is getting something that'll climb well and is durable for that you are looking at something brand new from about £1200 to £2500 beyond that is diminishing gains.

@Jay-Jo4580 6 місяців тому

Although carbon and high end bikes like Cervelo Scott Cannondale S-works or any other Bikes etc but an aluminum bike with a carbon looks is enough to catch a pro cyclist riding a carbon because aluminum is entry level but it depends reliable too it can have the same groupset as carbon bikes have it also depends on rider if the rider of the aluminum bike is a beast then he can beat any carbon bikes but the Disadvantage of the carbon is they break with just a couple of crashes

@MauriSky2437 7 місяців тому

People who spend more on their bike(s) justify the added costs mentally by "feeling" like the extra costs permit more speed. My cheaper Shimano 105 equipped Kinesis 4S Disc hasn't caused me to be dropped during fast group rides. I have noticed that among the pack of 45 cyclists I am generally with the first 10 and ahead on all long climbs. The other cyclists might be too self-conscious to ride aluminum bikes. I am not convinced that more $$$ means more speed. Fitness matters much more. This year my speeds have been comparatively faster than 2022 on the same four bikes. What did I do differently? I have ridden more frequently and longer.

@mikeypalmer3977 7 місяців тому

Nothing like a double blind test, and this was nothing like a double blind test….

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

Unsure how you suggest we do a blind test…on bikes…

@dirtroadie4642 7 місяців тому

A lot of what you’re paying for is how the bike rides and feels. Sure the SL7 was only marginally quicker, but after all they are just bicycles and can only be improved upon so much.

@alexrtsimpson 7 місяців тому

The real question is how much better of a workout do you get on a heavier bike. I see blokes with beer bellys and matching lycra costumes riding laps of regents Park every morning on 10k plus bikes. I can't help but think if they had a normal bike they might actually get a better workout in.

@thegearboxman 6 місяців тому

I was looking forward to this up until the point where he said 300w. I mean, come on, who consistently turns out 300w on a Sunday morning other than pro cyclists. Test at something realistic like 150-200W which is far more typical of the sort of rider who watches these videos. At average speeds of 25-30km/h the differences between the two bikes would be almost impossible to measure. As a small bloke with an ftp less than 200W I can go the same speed on my old aluminium 105 Carerra Zelos than I can on my Ultegra Di2 Ridley Noah in most conditions.

@user-fz3yv1wy4g 7 місяців тому

CAAD10 such a legendary value bike.

@ab.familly2349 5 місяців тому

Ithought the other guy was peter sagan and i clicked on the video :)

@halfglassfull 7 місяців тому

Top Gear for bikes

@KILLTHEREDDITOR 6 місяців тому

caad10 for 350 quid? Seems like a pipe dream in my country

@johnnytshi 7 місяців тому

Hahahahaha....remind me of a guy with big belly telling my the carbon shoes is really light

@ke0kie 3 місяці тому

rim brakes are far from rubbish, as evidenced by decades of service from casual to competition

@fernavarro5665 6 місяців тому

I can hear the screams of the guys with expensive equipment

@bobbanks3355 7 місяців тому

If i only rode 5 minutes at a time i wouldn't even spend 350 on a bike. How about a 100-200k ride with 1000-2000m of climbing?

@angelodanilomaione5785 6 місяців тому

Il test lo deve fare la stessa persona non due persone differenti , altrimenti non ha senso

@bluegem72 7 місяців тому

I am sure you guys either wash those cycling kits or had two pairs. Right?

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

Don’t you worry - there was 2 pairs, the helmets were a bit sweaty though…

@maplestory514 7 місяців тому

I'm spend budget for old frameset and upgrade component to hight end in budget $1000 is so faster and well

@The2808erik 7 місяців тому

The CAAD 10 already is a very good bike for that price. If you need to spend more than 1K on a road bike you are doing something wrong anyways.

@KiranMachiraju 7 місяців тому

So, from this, can I deduce that cheap bikes are not totally useless?

@yonglingng5640 7 місяців тому

Not all of them are, you just need to identify which ones.

@kevbrown7137 7 місяців тому

Better than cable disc brakes 👍

@anthonywylie2036 7 місяців тому

It’s 11 speed

@11robotics 7 місяців тому

the quality of cycling journalism in a nutshell

@tankusbuilds2801 7 місяців тому

Groupset is 11 but he said tiagra cassette which only goes up to 10, soooo 11 speed group on 10 speed cassette?

@11robotics 7 місяців тому

@@tankusbuilds2801 there is literally a closeup on the cassette and one can count 11 sprockets. Not to mention there is no way an 105 11-speed groupset could correctly shift over a 10 speed Tiagra cassette. That bloke has no clue what that bike's setup is.

@alpescyclisme 6 місяців тому

10 secondes d’écart pour 5 mn. C’est à dire 2 mn par heure. Ça suffit largement pour gagner. Ceux qui disent que les vélos modernes n’apportent rien n’ont jamais roulé avec ce type de matériel 😂

@lazypanda1493 2 місяці тому

You know most people buy expensive bikes just for the look 🤷

@scottwatson7844 6 місяців тому

Either bikes haven’t come on as much as the industry would like us to believe or the SL 7 really isn’t all that good 😂

@tonyg3091 7 місяців тому

You put Pogacar on my 3 year old daughter’s trike, you put me on SL8 Tarmac and he is still half an hour faster on 50 km course.😂

@stealth1803 4 місяці тому

for me £400 is an expensive bike and 12k is a concideration

@socopower 7 місяців тому

I just hope you guys found a magical way of washing clothes before swapping 😳

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

The truth is much less magical, they race for the same team and have duplicates

@socopower 7 місяців тому

@@roadcc nice and way more hygienic :)

@jasondelarosa5457 6 місяців тому

Marginal gains are just for pros, everyday people don't need anything but exercise.

@martymiller4300 7 місяців тому

Sorry guys, if you want to be completely dissatisfied with your existing metal (take your pick, I’ve got ‘em all) rim brake cable shift bike get a mid-level (ok it’s still really expensive) modern bike for a 1k mile test ride. I have Italian steel, CAAD 10 and a swank Titanium LeMond all equipped with current or close to current cable shift and premium rolling (mostly Chris King hubs) alloy rim brake wheels. Recently went impulse buy and got a 23 TREK Emonda SL7. Now at 2,100 miles still trying to figure out how it’s so much better. Faster, smoother, fun to kick up hills out of the saddle, you name it. Still love each of my traditional bikes but get real. There’s no controversy here.

@fastbladeproductions7961 7 місяців тому

The cheap bike had terrible tires.... get some conti 5000 or P Zeros tires and you'll instantly see the difference....

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

We wouldn’t say that the Hutchinson Fusion 5 Performance is a “terrible” tyre but yes there is a few watts that could likely be saved in this area

@seattlebicycler3657 7 місяців тому

It’s all psychological. Every rider is different regardless of the bike.

@herculesrockefeller8969 7 місяців тому

As GCN goes, so go the rest.

@ae232 7 місяців тому

"No expense spared" on an Ultegra build

@classicgravelbikelover 6 місяців тому

If you are not competative cyclist..go to mid range road bike...if you are competative cyclist..find a sponsor who give you a high end road bike🚴🤣

@uiroxcv 2 місяці тому

That 105 has 11 speed

@daviddawn9043 7 місяців тому

Yeah but 300 pounds Vs 12k sorry just ain't worth the upcost

@elfredo70 6 місяців тому

The CAAD10 with a pair of Carbon wheels would probably match the 3000% more expensive bike!

@irvhh143 7 місяців тому

The wheels are junk at entry level. Budget $700 for replacements.

@ARGMTNT 7 місяців тому

I am on the poor lads side . All that expensive pap came out of a ‘ bag for life ‘ ha ! Eat the rich. Peace.

@YuichiTamaki 7 місяців тому

So cheap bike and tons of money for the pub it is.

@AlexPeka 7 місяців тому

Not watching the video. Just here to say I'm perplexed how youtube has seemingly squeezed all possible discussion out of "cheap bike vs super bike" and yet another rehash comes out and 1200 views in the first hour? Do people have nothing else to watch? Let alone do!

@11robotics 7 місяців тому

Paying 25 times more money for a pathetic 1.6% performance improvement. You gotta pump those numbers up, those are rookie numbers in this racket. No, seriously, how much more gullible can the "modern" road bike buyer be? At this point the cycling industry keeps asking these increasingly ridiculous prices just because there are enough fools to be parted with their money.

@bernardo9202 7 місяців тому

That expensive bike could be done for far less money and get the same results, allez + 12 speed mechanical 105 and some wispace wheels and a finishing kit from the likes of prime, for 3.5k£, that caad 10 at the moment of purchase was what 2.3k£ plus inflation. really, is almost the same price. Those princeton wheels cost 4k and are just dumbfound

@aletheia3 6 місяців тому

Now you're doing this... I thought this was a gcn thing.... Blah...

@stevedogwildman2133 7 місяців тому

So to conclude, no difference. Waste of money.

@JFomo 7 місяців тому

Did you guys share the same race suit? 🫤

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

Haha they've shared worse...but no, simply teammates so 2 identical skinsuits

@stuartfreedman6854 7 місяців тому

Looks like you guys swapped shorts. Ewww.

@roadcc 7 місяців тому

Or we had two the same…

@diegoeleazar9154 6 місяців тому

Only fools think the bike will make them faster.

@littlevo9 7 місяців тому

Ce test ne démontre rien,je suis passé d’un vélo à 2000€ (sl6 sport)à un vélo à 14000€(sl7 sworks 2023). La différence est qd même très nette et simplement parceque leur test est sur un revêtement lisse sans dénivelé,j’ai fait de nombreux tests sur des tours chez moi et le résultat est sans appel le s-works est nettement plus rapide ,plus de 1.5 km/h de moyenne sur certains parcours avec une puissance inférieure. J’ai un niveau moyen et j’ai roulé en turbocotton sur tous mes vélos . Le simple plaisir de conduite justifie le prix. Un amis a un sl8 et un cannondale synapse carbon qd il est en cannondale il est facile de le battre et qd il est en sl8 impossible !

@CharlieCarbsandCycling 7 місяців тому

no expense spared and then his cranks are sram force (quark) not sram red. Could save 130g - clown

@pierremaggi8661 7 місяців тому

130g saved on that flat course = 0 second saved. U the clown

@CharlieCarbsandCycling 7 місяців тому

@@pierremaggi8661 1 odd down not flat 2 assume lad rides uphills occasionally

@slowcyclist4324 7 місяців тому

A 20k bike is leagues faster. I would hate to ride on a cheap bike, and hence would never improve. A 20k bike motivates me to go out to ride and enjoy riding a nice bike, hence improving. Ego?elitist? Probably. But heys, I DONT CARE. I would rather quit cycling and go jog, than ride a cheap heavy ass bicycle. Cycling is only fun because you have expensive bikes and toys to play with. Take away that and you might as well not ride. So there.