Cheap Jeep vs Expensive Bronco: Can My Little Wrangler Keep Up With The Mighty Bronco Off-Road?

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In this video we hit the trails in the Ford Bronco and Jeep Wrangler to see if a cheap Jeep can keep up with an expensive Bronco!
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@r6TrdSlow 2 роки тому

Every time I see Tommy’s Jeep, it’s a great reminder that even with no lockers or fancy suspension, it still goes everywhere that every vehicle y’all have put it against will go. A stock Jeep with good tires as all that 95% of off road going people need

@MrJamesLuz 2 роки тому

That’s why I laugh to myself every time I see a Jeep or a Tacoma on 35s driving around. Most midsize vehicles on 33s can hit 80% of the trails and a full size on 35s is a good combo. But I have a stock ‘02 Xterra on 31s and I love hitting trails and rolling up on a group of “overlanders” and the priceless looks I get. Haha.

@b2b111079 2 роки тому

As a newbie, it's especially important because it's so much more expensive and we overpay like crazy to be 100% capable. And I probably never ever will need it.

@mikeoxlong3676 2 роки тому

Us Subaru owners have been saying this for years.

@JonBecker81 2 роки тому

@@MrJamesLuz 35 inch tires are like the worthless size. You need to have 38’s at least to do any kind of actual rock crawling and most trucks or suvs with 32-33 inch can do whatever a 35 can do. 35s are for appearance and worse gas mileage for no reason.

@dawsonsschittcreek5395 2 роки тому

@@mikeoxlong3676 stop it

@jbandt 2 роки тому

Definitely need some harder obstacles for these more dedicated off road vehicles.

@SubieWan 2 роки тому

Love the inclusion of David lately, he’s quite the funny guy on camera!

@robsolf 2 роки тому

And bless him for the work on this course. Love it!

@jsSeJaMs 2 роки тому

Can't wait to see the midsize pickups take on this same course.

@jrhunt414 2 роки тому

David is definitely my favorite and most relatable personality on TFL. Let’s see more of David behind the wheel.

@davidvelasco1112 2 роки тому

Agreed, also need to see more Blaze

@fullspeedfordbronco 2 роки тому

Happy that you guys have you own course, but we need some more difficult obstacles.

@carlwest859 2 роки тому

Think I could get my wheel chair through that.

@alanj7306 2 роки тому

Yep 👍, those are some weak courses. But, and a big Butt, they’re also testing stock vehicles. With that perspective, it’s totally different. How many stock crossovers, trucks, and SUVs will actually handle these obstacles? I thought they looked pretty weak too, but I had to reassess what they’re building them for. They’re for stock vehicles and should separate the weak from the strong. You know 98% of people will never tackle anything like this.

@skunkhollow1 2 роки тому

Agreed. The dirt roads in my neighborhood are more rough than that log test 😄

@VvvMikeAngelo 2 роки тому

@@carlwest859 that’s a fair assessment!

@triviaworldopolis3362 2 роки тому

I live in Alaska. Some days I have a rougher drive to work.

@wtfchazpwnt 2 роки тому

Pretty cool how well the "base offroad" spec wrangler can hold it's own.

@abouttime7316 2 роки тому

Would love to see this same comparison only next time add in a Jeep TJ and an older Bronco or Bronco 2 to see how the last 20 some odd years have changed vehicle capabilities.

@feedrate1 2 роки тому

I'm glad you guys gave David a position on the team he's a good addition 👍

@broncobros2022 2 роки тому

Tommy, when you turn on the trail turn assist you want the front locker on to drag the front end around. That would eliminate the situation where one front tire was spinning and forward progress stopped around the turn

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 2 роки тому

Tommy knew this because we've had this conversation online before.

@broncobros2022 2 роки тому

@@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 That’s what I like about these videos. They really try to test things. You can tell they’re genuine and unscripted. Seams in the heat of the moment he forgot this time. That can certainly happen in the real world. Especially the more “gadgets” your off-roader has. Or, alternate theory, he didn’t want his Jeep to look as bad on that corner than that fancy Bronco so he didn’t tell the driver. 😉

@ndafarachaitezvi1139 2 роки тому

The Jeep held it's ground and performed extremely well

@vanashke001 2 роки тому

Right? A lot of sunshine blown up Ford's nethers while the Jeep got little praise. "Can anything stop a Bronco?!" While driving a fully loaded Bronco. While driving the Jeep up the same obstacle. "Crickets"

@williamneumann7578 2 роки тому

Absolutely love the addition of David to your team.

@1guyin10 2 роки тому

That short wheelbase Bronco has some serious off-road chops! Of course Tommy's Jeep has proven that even a basic Wrangler is still a Wrangler.

@ziplokk1453 2 роки тому

David seems really comfortable on camera and he has a "watchable" quality. Y'all should add him to the team. Very enjoyable.

@jamesbeaman6337 2 роки тому

Are we sure he’s not on the team already?

@ziplokk1453 2 роки тому

@@jamesbeaman6337 Just haven't seen him on other vids, but he could be now they have the Dust Bunny ranch...

@phil_builds 2 роки тому

When using the trail turn assist it helps to use the front locker to help pull you around the corner. 👍

@joshc606 2 роки тому

I’m glad y’all have David on the team.

@alanj7306 2 роки тому

In my experience, limited slip differentials work great. I’ve had them on several trucks and SUVs over the last 20 years. 99% of the time they’ll do exactly what you need and you don’t have to worry about breaking the axles either. They’re great for driving in the snow and on slippery roads. Lockers are great for some off-road applications (like rock crawlers), but LSD’s are perfect for a daily driver. It’s really the open differentials that suck! You basically just have one wheel spinning, which is terrible, especially if it’s a 2wd vehicle. It quickly becomes a one wheel drive, which is no good. The LSDs are tried and true and make a huge difference.

@1guyin10 2 роки тому

I agree. I have the same setup on my JK and it works well.

@TheHitSquadOffroad 2 роки тому

I have a JT with LSD. I've been on numerous trails and have done rock crawling where people say you need atleast one locker and I have walked right through. I will for sure get lockers, atleast front, in the future, but I'm in no hurry.

@robsolf 2 роки тому

Yep! Open diff 4wd's are really 2WD, 1 in front, 1 in back.

@aldo90731 2 роки тому

Yup. LSDs are underrated and lockers are overrated. It must have something to do with the fact that LSD works 24/7, making the driver believe that his driving is better than it really is.

@charleslewis04 2 роки тому

David is just the best. Always happy to see him in you guys’ videos!

@gabrielback5615 2 роки тому

With all the gushing over the Bronco, its refreshing to see how a stock cheep Jeep without all the electronic gadgets does everything the Bronco can.

@canyonero2050 2 роки тому

Everything the bronco can, in this video, on a short, very modest obstacle course. However the Bronco is definitely much more capable than the Jeep in many real world situations.

@BobLionel 2 роки тому

@@canyonero2050 No it isn't. We were on the trails with a 2 door bronco Badlands 2 weeks ago and a stock 2 door Jeep (Willys JL with 35's) did things the Bronco struggled on even locked while the JL wasn't.

@jeffrentsch4318 2 роки тому

@@BobLionel often is driver more than vehicles. Reading trail, tire placement, knowing vehicle...

@canyonero2050 2 роки тому

@@BobLionelLOL "35s" isnt "stock". The Jeep in this video and what is being compaired here is on 32s. But keep telling yourself a jeep with out any lockers on 32s is going to be as capable as a new bronco on 35s with both front and rear locked up. Keep living in dream world if you want to.

@SanctumOfDreams 2 роки тому

@@canyonero2050 I do believe it would be. The base model wrangler has a trick up it's sleeve that people never take advantage of. All you need is two 18mm wrenches and a few minutes of time to disconnect the sway bar links and the base model will wheel circles around you upper model broncos. And just so you're aware, putting 35's on a JL sport or Sahara would still classify them as stock because the vehicle itself doesn't need to be modified in order to fit them.

@DuaneCaldwell 2 роки тому

First and foremost, all the props to David and his trail building! Way to go, David! As for the obvious disparity between the cost/functionality of the Bronco and the Willys Jeep? I love it! This really shows that you can take the expensive toys if you've got the $$$$, but if you aren't as well-financed, you can still make it through safely and with a lot of fun in a more basic vehicle. It was also a good first drive test of the offroad course at Tumbleweed. Looking forward to more tests in the future. Keep up the great work TFL, and keep David helping out on the ranch and the shoots.

@HSstudio.Ytchnnl 7 місяців тому

you're a rare specimen, I mean how did you get verified with very low sub count?? is it possible for me

@shazmodeus2795 2 роки тому

I'd love to see you guys get ahold of a base model Bronco, one that's in the mid 30K's and compare it to Tommy's Jeep.

@d.s7741 2 роки тому

that fifty thousand dollar Bronco didn't even have rock sliders

@HoosierDaddy_ 2 роки тому

Something tells me Ford isn't going to make many base models. The money is in the goodies they add on. I would like to see one if anybody can get their hands on one, though.

@MyDrom 2 роки тому

Even with evident efforts to make the wrangler struggle, it was a walk in the park. The highway is where the bronco shines. Keep it real.

@ronaldbarnes8302 2 роки тому

Tommy, your Jeep is amazingly capable considering it doesn’t have all the goodies the Bronco has. Thanks for sharing!

@zoefaith120 2 роки тому

David's got skills and he knows another of valid good stuff!

@gadgetmantwincities 2 роки тому

Great job building the course David🤠

@bob7501 2 роки тому

Great video! It makes me want to add some good off-road tires to my Z71 Colorado and come out to the ranch and see how well it does. It certainly won't make it through some of the obstacles due to its length, departure angle, etc, but it would be fun to try anyway on some of the less severe stuff.

@danthompson1467 2 роки тому

You need to get a mower for the skid steer and clear the sides of the trail so you don’t scratch anything up

@chrisdemas8246 2 роки тому

Great video! Always love when Tommy and David are on and when it’s in the ranch, that’s the best! Thank you all!

@nlken7175 2 роки тому

Great work David. Can't wait to see how Trucks will do on this course.

@keewatin427 2 роки тому

This is a great demo of how capable a basic Jeep is. I liked that on the Donut Media Hi/Low Tacoma challenge, they spent tens of thousands of dollars to sup up their Tacos, only to comment at the end of the series that the camera vehicle was a rented Jeep, with no lockers, no lift and stock tires, and completed all the same trails they did with zero issues.

@tripleseven8361 2 роки тому

I think the Jeep would have performed better, (on the “harder” obstacles), if you’d simply left it in 4 Low, taken your foot of the gas, (and off of the clutch) and let it do its thing!

@deejayimm 2 роки тому

YEA!! it's fantastic to see David out in a normal video, I like that dude.... Also, instead of trying to get a more expensive Wrangler what you really need to do is get a similarly-priced Bronco.

@scottyellis3442 2 роки тому

Great video, both done really well & the course will probably get harder as time goes by.

@345ScoutII 2 роки тому

I'm loving the beginning of the 4x4 obstacles. And as David said there is so much opportunity for so much more. So I'm hoping this is only the beginning and there is much much much more to come!!👍👍👍🤟🤟🤟😎😎😎. I had several ideas watching what you have started but I'm eagerly awaiting because I know you guys are just getting started. 😎😎

@wade7959 2 роки тому

Great video. That bronco is quite capable. Also, glad to see Blaze came along!

@HoosierDaddy_ 2 роки тому

Once those new trails get used and rained on, they'll be much different. What a great place to use those 4X4s. I hope you guys still go out on those beautiful Colorado trails occasionally!

@sprk11 2 роки тому

awesome job. Love this comparison. Almost matching vehicles . Would love to see what happens with a Bronco with a matching set up to the Willey's but this the best match up I've seen yet.

@aldenrodgers5364 2 роки тому

Dude yes! the ranch is looking awesome! Love that sharp-turn section, love that David got first tracks on his hard work with the new bronco! super fun

@dragonjku 2 роки тому

I was recently at a charity event here in GA, in support of a fireman with cancer. It was held in Jasper, where the Sheriff's Jeepfest is at, and the obstacle course was basically a giant mud bog. I have the video - I can't share it because there was a conversation going on - but someone in a Rav 4 went through the obstacle course and made it. He was sideways, but he made it. So don't be so sure one would get stuck there, LOL.

@francoisbrand9073 2 роки тому

What is the purpose of the rocks and and logs section when they are stacked in a way that makes them look like just a bumpy road? What are you actually testing on the vehicle with them?

@TFLoffroad 2 роки тому

The dirt will settle between them and you’ll quickly see on a typical SUV ground clearance, approach and departure will be tested really quick!

@francoisbrand9073 2 роки тому

@@TFLoffroad thanks for the clarification!

@skunkhollow1 2 роки тому

@@TFLoffroad when the dirt settles between them, that’s just going to make it smoother…

@joezephyr 2 роки тому

Terrific video thank you! Videos comparing Tommy's Jeep to anything are always terrific! My Jeep is the same as Tommy's Jeep except for the differences. The colour Automatic transmission I take my back seats out Different decals on the back 7" screen Silver wheels And probably other stuff :) I Love My Jeep!

@ericcrockett479 2 роки тому

The turn assist on the Bronco is just a very neat little Gadget that while not exactly a New Concept in general is great to see it applied to pay off roadworthy vehicle. It is the vehicle version of tractor cutting brakes which have been on farm tractors since the 40's

@hereigoagain5050 2 роки тому

David has the dream job. Great video. Everyone was in a great mood on a sunny spring day. A lava pit would be awesome!

@goddamnadam623 2 роки тому

I really enjoyed this video. Can’t wait to see what else you guys have in stored. It’ll definitely be a tough task once snow and ice gets on the obstacles. 👍🏼

@daveg.4862 2 роки тому

As a Bronco guy, lots of respect for the Jeep, these two fighting brothers will make eachother better for years to come. Ya its not a fair fight......next obstical.... thanks for the work Tommy & David

@rickydefuzz8637 2 роки тому

Hey guys, the property looks great and the obstacles you guys are putting in are awesome! After everything is said and done, you guys should think about an annual jamboree! Covering interesting and cool four wheelers will have never been easier! If a date is thrown out to the public, the vehicles to cover will literally come to you. Thanks for the great video, big fan

@allanhallett 2 роки тому

I am so excited for all the video to come!

@bradbaraniuk4085 2 роки тому

you guys at tfl owe dave big time for all the work he is doing on the ranch.

@TheDeanGullberry 2 роки тому

David! What a knowledgeable and capable guy

@2ndamendmentSam 2 роки тому

Like David said, you have a wonderful property for theses kinds of tests. Awesome video! Looking forward to more Tumbleweed ranch videos.

@orrinbelcher6593 2 роки тому

Super cool super fun superbly done, David did great building the obstacle course, you and Blaze, a great team. Your Jeep is awesome and the Bronco too.

@Powerman2417 2 роки тому

Good job guys!

@luzgoose7607 2 роки тому

Wow what a course. Can’t wait to see what you guys fully build. And how cool it would look like fully finished

@jimgarafalo27 Рік тому

I was considering buying a bronco in 2021, but it was hard to find a full size bronco then, and I found a good deal on a 2017 Wrangler 4 door (no rear lockers, but equipped with LSD like yours). While driving it last January in the Mojave desert , I drove it up a very narrow, rocky canyon. At one point, there was a 45 degree right turn that my Wrangler could barely fit through, but we made it. I think a Bronco is too wide to have made it through that spot. I love my wrangler!

@kylecrowe7268 2 роки тому

Tommy has become a fan favorite. Keep up the good work man 💪🏼

@seanhershey3390 2 роки тому

Well, that was fun...your Jeep did great...

@Expressionistix 2 роки тому

You need a scoring system with either of these vehicles setting the baseline for this course. Deductions could be based on traction loss, ground clearance, articulation, etc. Much like your truck of the year scoring process you could have an off road vehicle of the year.

@richfarfugnuven6308 2 роки тому

That Bronco is a beast...

@zachtravers1 2 роки тому

Great video, I'm really loving the new Bronco and I'm excited to drive one, I haven't driven a JL either just a few JKs, so I'd be interested in making the comparison. The Bronco is truly impressive and I'm glad someone is finally giving Jeep a run for it's money.

@ClassicSteelRC 2 роки тому

Another great video guys! I am thoroughly impressed with both those rigs!

@bill4632 2 роки тому

These 2 door rigs look so good, out in the country. Exactly why I want acreage to play around on....lol. Your dog is cool. You can tell he likes car rides.

@DennisMcCracken 2 роки тому

Tommy, you and I have the same 2 door, manual, Willys Sport. I would have like to see you disconnect the front swaybar. It would have kept that front tire on the ground. Great video!

@matadorprime6555 2 роки тому

Tommy, you can add an electronic swaybar disconnect from a JL Rubicon. Remove the electronics, install a manual lock/unlock, and it will improve the capabilities of your Wrangler. There are videos about this.

@loganholmberg2295 2 роки тому

Nice! I'm sure as you wear the track in it will just get more difficult. 👍👍

@shkotayd9749 2 роки тому

Great trail! Gives the look of real difficulty, while actually providing quite little xD Given you test loaners, we get it 😆

@peterc8979 2 роки тому

Great video! Fun to watch

@joekane6725 2 роки тому

Great little video, I hope you get to test the ZR2 and ATX4 out there soon!

@ronvanr5359 2 роки тому

I like the ranch but I miss the trails

@blown3312 Рік тому

Great video regardless of the difference in trim level. You mention the Extreme Recon. And I could be mistaken, but I believe there are 3 reasons you couldn't add that to your Jeep. I think it can only be added to a 4 door, automatic transmission Rubicon. You have the opposite of that. Lol. But with Bronco, you can add Sasquatch to a manual transmission 2 door base model.

@TheCapn23 2 роки тому

Hopefully we'll get to see the Bronco equivalent, Black Diamond, out here someday

@sethgrim 2 роки тому

Would love to see you test out a base bronco with Sasquatch package. Your Willy’s did great. Big fan of the red Willy’s you purchased. The bronco out performed a bit but I’d personally get Tommy’s set up and keep the extra cash in hand. Perhaps consider larger tires once those BFG’s are worn. Looking forward to watching some less capable vehicles take on the new course.

@GraysdadCal 2 роки тому

I enjoy David’s dry wit and his authenticity.

@stephensalt6787 2 роки тому

Short and narrow = off-road supremacy, the original Jeep and swb Land Rovers set the standard. All the power and toys in full size pickups won’t let them follow the Bronco and your jeep around that course. Good video you two.

@dubbayou1 2 роки тому

The course needs work, not very challenging

@dalejones4322 2 роки тому

Fantastic video. I was hoping you'd do this match up. Build an obstacle that will really challenge that jeep. Nothing with a potential for damage but something super steep. Thanks guys

@SonicRacingEPt 2 роки тому

You gotta stack up some giant ricks like Johnson Valley, CA that will test some suspension articulation... But looking good though

@travisladd344 2 роки тому

Course needs to be harder. The Bronco made all that look like it was just driving in a parking lot.

@JimmyLeeTennessee 2 роки тому

I believe the badlands has things that the wildtrak doesn't actually. Also, could have locked the front diff on the turn to pull you through with the trail turn assist. Great video though!

@Propelled 2 роки тому

If you use the assist turn on a trail, be sure to scrape the “Tread Lightly” decals off your rig.

@authenthuse5165 2 роки тому

Man the camera flattens out the terrain a lot! You can see the two vehicles going through their paces but the terrain looks deceptively easy. Wrangler held it's own!

@jrod7017 2 роки тому

Sweet to see them perform.

@michaelhalstead64 7 місяців тому

Blaze is cute when he follows. haha.

@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461 2 роки тому

I like David's language, a very beautifully articulated one. He definitely should be considered for the voiceover of the RDR3

@brentworls8509 2 роки тому

First vehicle through slippery obstacles is always easier. The second one goes through stripped of the last remaining traction on the surface.

@samwolf8151 2 роки тому

All these media outlets keep getting high end trims of the Broncos. Can you guys test the capabilities of a base bronco, not Sasquatch? Great video though! I love seeing y’all have fun. It’s great to see David on the channel.

@canyonero2050 2 роки тому

Ford doesnt want to sale base models

@justinwadsworth5520 2 роки тому

Suggestions for holes make another row to one side or the other with a different wheel base measurement

@loganholmberg2295 2 роки тому

Just goes to show a decent 4x4 with good tires is all you need to get out there. Modify and trade up if you find what you have isn't enough for what you like to do. Also make sure you know how to chg tires and go out with other 4x4ers. It'll help you find your comfort zone AND teach you somethings about how to get out and fix trouble when you're out there.

@drapshap 2 роки тому

David is peak Colorado. Love it.

@10cpaul 2 роки тому

Great job Tommy! You young guys need to take over TFL...

@tampabayautomotive 2 роки тому

I think something that tests break over angle would be a good addition

@auduffer 2 роки тому

Would love to see a comparison between Tommy's Willys Sport and one of the Willys Sport with Xtreme Recon package--guess I should've watched the entire video when he mentions the package as they're crossing the mud bog! lol

@victorbeltran2808 2 роки тому

The Bronco looks amazing

@mrcnorth7149 2 роки тому

Those first couple of obstacles seem way too easy. I suggest taking measurements from the off road courses TFL previously did in the mountains and compare/update the Tumbleweed setup to the same level of difficulty. Still lots of fun to watch. And since you brought it up during the video, yes taking a subaru and a rav4 through the same obstacles would be fun to watch as well.

@paulsmith-ld8xl 2 роки тому

Great video

@scottg391 2 роки тому

For around 30k you can get a Post Office Jeep with 4 wheel drive along with all of the known issues that come with the badge. For another 20k you can have a Bronco that has the potential for engine failure, a hard top that squeaks or the soft top that leaks and tie rod ends that twist up like pretzels on the trail, along with a growing list of other minor yet annoying issues. The Bronco has nothing on the Jeep, even the post office version.

@NoxNoctisUmbra 2 роки тому

Every time I see bronco videos it's all rock crawling or mud crawling, and everytime they say it's just as good as jeep. Remember Bronco can also do fast passed desert 🏜️ Baja style racing, jeep can't.

@curtboroff 2 роки тому

The new Broncos independent front would walk all over any wrangler on any terrain in the desert over 35 mph. Especially if it’s a 4 door. However, the Wranglers front suspension is better in the slow, flexy tight stuff. It’s beer versus whiskey.🤷🏻‍♂️ This new market competition between Ford and Jeep is the best thing to happen in decades. Now, Dodge should build a ram charger line.🤞🏼 That being said… I’m guessing that you’ve never heard of the Jeepspeed desert racing series. Not stock vehicles at all, XJs and stretched wranglers, but there’s lots of great info and footage to binge if you never have. 🍻

@johnlogan9417 2 роки тому

Gladiator Mojave is "Desert Rated" instead of "Trail Rated" and comes with independent front suspension. That's Jeep's Baja runner.

@michaelmaddy278 2 роки тому

Nice job, the less expensive Jeep did just as good as that $50,000 plus Bronco. Put a couple grand for lockers an bigger tires an go about anywhere. I would like to see how a 2022 Roxor would do on that course against your Jeep. It’s diesel against the V6.

@WW-wf8tu 2 роки тому

It's a nice start. But if nothing is challenging those 2 vehicles that could have done it all in 2WD, chances are, you need something more extreme. Loose rocks, long steep grade. Sand pit. The switch back was appropriate. That def. mimics terrain CO. has. Mud pits and deeper articulation ruts. Nothing here that is wrong. Just need level 8 terrain instead of level 3. lol Bottom line, the cross overs are going to die, where as the elites are going to make it look this easy. lol

@Coloradohighcountrywheelin 2 роки тому

Great video🙂👍, TY

@curtl1694 2 роки тому

Hey Tommy. Would you be able to do video on how you get your big dog in and out of the Jeep and Bronco? I’ve got a 2 door Bronco on order and curious how my big bully will get in and out. Seems easier to go in from back.