Also to note for Indy, not long after the record was set in '96, the track was rebuilt in an effort to slow cars down. Speeds have never been close to the same since.

I doubt it would do well at the Dakar. 😟

The Volkswagen I.D. R, which holds the Pikes Peak record, was actually the car that first broke the F1 cars record up the Goodwood Hillclimb from 1999. Then the I.D. R's record was broken by the McMurtry Spéirling a few years later

F1 cars are seemingly not meant to beat these tracks

Scott, it should be noted that Verstappen's qualifying lap from Spa 2023 isn't a good comparison as the track wasn't fully dry. If you compare to his quali lap from 2022 you'll note his pole time of 1.43.655 some 3 seconds faster than 2023 which I believe had the track conditions been good the RB19 would have easily beaten the RB18's pole lap from the previous year.

The first time I saw the McMurtry at Goodwood a couple years ago totally shocked me, it was like starwars crossed with oxfordshire or something. The car looks like movie cgi the way it grips in corners or like a regular car doing the track in fast forward. I'd love to see it do pikes peak this year !

He forgot to mention that Gil de Ferran set both the track record and closed course record for fastest lap at 241.428 mph (388.541 km/h) in 2000 at fontana

I would love it if Mercedes gave the 919 Evo treatment to the W11 or W12 and go on a big tour with it after LH retires and get Lap Records at as many tracks as possible.

Mt Panorama would be an interesting one. If the F1 could stick to the ground through the dipper its set an amazing lap time.

F1 would demolish kobayashis time though. Alpine said they could easily go sub 3 minutes last year with their demo run

New video idea: What would happen if the RB19 got the 919 Evo treatment? For example unrestricted fuel flow, grippier tyres, aero bits like wheel covers, and more. Which lap records would it be able to beat then and how much faster would it get in comparison to the standard RB19?

Pipo Derani just beat the daytona lap record in the qualifying for the 24h of daytona. He drove a 1.32.656 in the Cadillac GTP

The TT race is just unbelivable and scary... Just no words 😬🔥

Today a Cadillac V-R (LMDh spec) driven by Pipo Derani set a new fastest lap at the Daytona road course in qualifying of 1:32.656 a bit more than one second faster than the previous record. This is just the second year for cars of this specification, and all cars are subject to Balance of Performance rules.

Mark Higgins record TT lap is mind blowing to watch, especially THAT moment where he somehow saved it from a huge crash...GOD MODE!

Great video, as ever Scott! Keep that juicy content flowing.

Many thanks for this upload Scott. Off topic, how did you find the B195? I believe that car was designed around Michael Schumacher and was very nervous.

Love all the comparisons. Thank you for putting this together.

I would love for the W11 to be allowed to just go all out on as many tracks as possible

Another interesting unofficial record is that or talledega. In the 1990s at a tire test a driver (i think rusty wallace can't remember) took the restrictor plate off his engine effectively doubling the horsepower and apperently went 230-240 mph top speed around talledega which definetly would have been a lap record but it isn't commonly recognized because nascar doesn't talk about it. Its definetly falls in the unofficial records category

I've watched many Driver61 videos, but this video in particular is absolutely astonishing. Great content.

the 919 does not have more downforce than an f1 car period. The porsche mechanics lied or simply didnt know about it just to get attention. The car is faster in a straight line but still loses out to f1 on the corners by quite a lot and no the 50kg difference isnt enough to justify it, it just has less downforce, it loses like 2 or 3 seconds in the middle sector of spa. If it went to hungary or barcelona the difference would be big, probably 5 secs a lap slower than f1.

At Indy 500 qualifying cars go faster in the turns then a F1 car has ever gone.

Hasnt someone already done the Ring on an F1 sim using an older car and managed a laptime just over 5mins? And thats without doing a Porsche and creating a one off derestricted/unregulated car.

These kinda videos are why I love Assetto Corsa; every one of those tracks is likely to have a mod for it, and ANY car can be used on ANY track, no matter what surface it has

That McMurtry is an absolute beast of a machine! Whoever enginerded that thing is a madman and I want to see more of it!

Have you seen Brundle at Lime Rock in 1988? He beat the track speed(and time) record by 5mph his first time there. He was in a TWR Castrol Jag. It's on UKposts.

Scott, your charm, personality and charisma is only exceeded by your good looks, talent and modesty. Keep up the good work 🌞

Small corrections: the TS050 by 2019 had around 440-450kW from the ICE. It had 300kW from the Hybrid in Le Mans and 350kW everywhere else. So between 740 and 800kW (1000-1100hp). And it wasnt the dominant car in the end of the P1 era, it was the only factory car. It ran against non Hybrid Rebellions, SMPs and Ginettas.

Love the mention of Road America! Also yeah a modern F1 car, properly set up, could definitely get the lap record. If there was ever track I could absolutely go on about to a racing fan outside of the US it's Road America, it's just special.

Excellent content thank you!!

Fun video! If you do a part two, I'd love to see Road Atlanta in the mix.

With all do respect, i think if you task any F1 team to tackle any of mentioned tracks, maybe excluding hillclimbs since its electric turf now, resulting modified car will beat everyloving crap outta any competition.

Really enjoyed this 👌

In regards to Indy - F1 cars have gear boxes for the entire season, the gear ration would be another issue to reach the speeds

7:08 Pipo Derani: "Actually that's not the Daytona lap record" 😏 He literally broke that record just 2 days after this video was made 😅

Heike Kovalein did a sub 40 second run in a 2004 Renault F1 car. They stopped officially timing F1 cars after a fatal crash but the commentator just read it out. Going to suggest that set up, available tyres and general engineering spend of an F1 team Vs McMurty are evening up the advantages of zero speed down force and electric traction.

Timo Bernhard said the 919 was capable of going sub five minutes but his body and brain was not able to go faster.

Scott you bloody tease! You had footage of Mount Panorama at the start but then never mentioned it.

Would be interesting to see on the oldest, continuously used used course in the world, Shelsley Walsh hill climb in the UK. Its really narrow, short and flat out except for a s bend section. The cars are specialist based on F1 like design and record is 22.37 secs set 2 years ago. These cars are actually banned from timed runs at Goodwood Festival of speed, as are current F1s for obvious safety reasons

There's a lot of areas of the TT Snaefell Mountain Course that an F1 car would absolutely blitz the superbikes with lots of switchback corners that the bikes have to completely roll off the throttle that an F1 car wouldn't, but the bikes' racing lines are much wider whereas an F1 car is almost the width of the road in places.

I suspect you are wrong about the Isle of Man track. The F1 cars can slow down for serious bits which might cause it to bottom out, but I still think they'd be faster than that rally car.

Great video, very interesting 👍

@Driver61 could you guys try mountain biking ? Like enduro and stuff is literally rally on a bicycle and a world cup spec would cost max 10.000€ a nice enduro spec is like 4.500€ for a beast with FOX suspension

The FW38 used the Mercedes PU106C Hybrid power unit. During qualifying for the 2016 European Grand Prix, the FW38 set the highest ever recorded speed of a Formula One car during an official session, at 378 km/h (235 mph). So an F1 could be the fastest. Even when they make an even lower downforce package. And in the race with slipstream bottas even went passed 380kmu

Re the Isle of Man Record, Mark Higgins was a lot faster than the bikes on the corners but lost out on the flat out sections as his Subaru maxed out at about 160mph and the bikes could hit 200mph. While an F1 car might struggle with the road, a faster car that can hit 200mph on the long straights I expect would be much faster than the bikes. That Porsche 919 Evo could probably lap the Isle of Man so quickly the Island would start spinning round.

Love the idea of kart vs F1 around Cadwell!

What about Bathurst? Great vid.

i was at the tt circuit assen in the netherlands in i think it was 2019 or 18, there was a simulator-ish thing where you would sit in a seat and do like a little bit of The Isle of man circuit in like some VR-ish stuff, the simulator would lean to right and left and it was damn crazy, i would do it again

What about Bathurst in NSW Australia?

Isle of Man 🇮🇲 is insane. More than bravery. Nice video as always 🎉

5:12 “but i hope an f1 team sees that as a challenge” 😎 cue redbull

Love your content. I recommend you to also use kph in your videos :)

Thanks for a great video

Could you please show the kilometres per hoir next to the miles per hour? Makes it a bit more legible for a lot of us

guia circuit- where every F1 car should experienced a lord mahaveer moment and failed a proper lap time

Nice video but the last bit on Isle of Man gave me a heartache lol This seems like an absolutely mental bonkers race!

Most records are actually held by 2020 f1 cars, not 2021. Like the example given, the w11 raced in 2020. For 2021, the floors were trimmed and cars lost some speed. Some track however have records from 2004 cars, also some of the fastest ever.

Correction at 5:15 Kamui Kobayashi did said lap in 2017 24h of Le Mans. And also calling it the TS050 dominant although not necessarily untrue it does help that Toyota was the only LMP1-H car in the field

The New record for the Road Circuit is a 1:32.656 by Luis Felipe derani Set in the Cadillac V series r at the 2024 Qualifying for Daytona

Could you please include metric units along side the imperial, it's hard to get through a video when I have to leave UKposts to convert the units over from the imperial.🙏🏿

I am shocked to see Awesome Bill from Dawsonville pop up in a driver61 vid. You love to see it.

I agree with everything except for Le Mans. F1 should be able to beat the lap record in Monza Spec. Especially in the Porsche curves at the end they would be rapid and 210mph should be possible by the RB19 on the straights.

I beat the pikes peak record. in Gran turismo 2

Your vids are spot on…

The Daytona sports car layout lap record took it personally and lowered itself 😂 The record was actually broken on 19/01/24 at 1:32.656 by the Cadillac Prototype.

What about the mount Washington hill climb? If you haven't seen it watch Travis Pastrana do it in a subaru wrx. Completely mental

Pikes Peak in 1988, onboard with Ari Vatanen in his white-blue turboed Peugeot 405 ... That was my first taste and immersion into Pikes Peak, hill climbs, and rally style racing. "Climb Dance" was such a seminal piece in my motorsport education. (The balls on those drivers...)

How do you think the modern f1 cars would do at the Long Beach gp street circuit?

F1 would struggle in at least two places on the TT course. 1st is the nasty left hand turn at Barregarrow where the road elevation changes radically. F1 cars would lose downforce and probably crash unless they went on the outside at a much slower pace than the motorcycles. The 2nd, if you know the TT course then you know that I'm talking about Ballaugh Bridge where the bikes literally jump that bridge. F1 would literally crash their cars in that spot. You need inches of suspension travel not suspension with a few millimeters of travel. Not an F1 course...at all. Maybe WRC car with F1 engine...V10?🤷‍♂ That would be interesting. Maybe a modern day group B?

An F1 car would fall apart at Sebring. You have no idea what that track does. Even Indy only uses a small portion when there for spring training.

You forgot to mention Bristol Motor speedway

Modern F1 at the Isle of Man sounds like a video Aidan Millward needs for his Can F1 Handle series

I think there are F1 cars that could beat the Nordschleife lap. Perhaps not the ground effect cars but 2021 or 2004 maybe.

try some short circuit kart tracks

Isle of man TT… aka True Terror. I will never cease to be fascinated by the true balls if those bikers.

Wider cars = less overtaking... thanks for the take away! I ❤ your content, and yeah awesome humble brag!😂

I’d love to hear how an F1 car would handle The Corkscrew. Otherwise, Laguna Seca is “just another road course,” but that one complex of turns is so egregious, what would it do to ride heights and therefore downforce?

Regarding Porsche's claim that their car makes more downforce than an F1 car, whether or not this is true, it doesn't have more grip. When we look at the 919 evo's lap around Spa compared to what was at the time the fastest F1 lap and we look at the sector times, the 919 was much faster in sectors 1 and 3, and the Mercedes was quite a bit faster in the middle sector. For this reason, I don't believe the 919 evo would beat an F1 car from the same year at any of the more downforce heavy tracks where the F1 car would be able to stretch its grip advantage. For me, this includes the Nordschleife, as most of the track is quite twisty. Wouldn't be cool if Mercedes just decided to take the W11 and make the W11 Evo to go around and smash records? No fuel flow restriction, no energy consumption and recovery limits and some custom 1-lap optimized Pirellis, with the DAS system to warm them up perfectly. I bet most, if not all, non-oval (or GWFS) track records would be at risk.

The Sendy Club are close to beating the record at Pikes Peak

Would love to see these put to the test. In sim.

I'm surprised that Laguna Seca never got a mention due to the crazy corkscrew that would kill an F1 car Edit - I stand corrected. Marc Gene has the unofficial record in a 2011 F1 Ferrari 😮

about the elevatoin, wouldnt you be able to just change the tune map if you get higher up? With allot of high hp cars you can change the map for more or less power. A f1 car could just change the map so that it has optimal power for every kind of elevation?

@10:57 the i.D.R looks so much like the Peugeot 905 (V.1, the pretty one) Group c car it's actually insane. And I hate the fact that all these records are being done in electric or hybrid cars ☹️💔

Yea I think some ovals f1 cars that don’t have the lap record like Texas motor speedway

You should of included Bathurst

Imagine RedBull sees this, takes the same approach as the LMP1. Takes the fastest year of one of their retired cars, and goes all out like Porsche did. Seeing just what is capable of an unrestricted F1 car, when mechanics and engineers lose their minds.

Great video

I'd like to see Formula 1 on Laguna Seca with cars through the corkscrew.

Did the LMP1 hold 210 mph on that 500 hp engine alone, and was it really that little? When the Nissan entry didn't have hybrid that worked, just its dead weight, it still had good top speeds.

It would have been interesting to see what the Lotus Evija X would have done at the Nurburgring.

a note on all time speed rusty wallace holds the all time speed in a stock car at talledega testing went 216 mph, and one other note about indy cars in the old days when things were more cowboy, those turbo offenhousers they used if you let it run full boost will do 1400 hp on a dynometer not bad for a 4 banger origionally desiged in 1929 right? those roadsters though didn't reach the kinds of speed we see today not as much down force and the handling is differant with the front engine vs the mid engine we have today.

12:24 those mad lads sitting at the bottom of Barregarrow while the car bottomed-out. Spectators with 🥎🥎 of steel

Might as well put some gokart tracks and rally tracks in here

"Formula 1 cars are the fastest race cars in the world, apart from when they're not" *Vsause music starts playing*

if they have same tyres performance, I wonder which faster between WTAC car and F1 car?🤔 *I realised no WRC car/track comparison on the list😂

You cant tease Bathurst in the intro and then not cover it!!! Persoablly I'd have loved to have seen the 919 Evo around the Mountain... that would have been spectacular

Small correction. F1 Lap records are held by the 2020 cars, not 21. Downforce was reduced slightly by regs in 21

About Daytona road course, I may have tried to take a few laps on iRacing in the w13... And reminder I'm not great with open wheel cars but besides that... Record 1:33.724 My best lap in the w13: 1:21.447 Felt like trying it as I did just run the iRacing Daytona 24 and know the track, let's just say, very well. 😂

The only track record that matters is the Top Gear Test Track.