When Formula 1 Teams Get Caught CHEATING

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Formula 1 has a BRILLIANT history of cheating. Sometimes teams and drivers only JUST push the limits. Other times, entire plans are orchestrated and executed to perfection like something out of a heist movie.
Drivers have literally cut corners to snatch pole, crashed into each other to win championships and even risked massive explosions to score points.
So we’re going to go over some of the most genius cheats that you probably haven’t heard of. Let’s go!
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Michael Schumacher, back in his Ferrari days, found himself in a tough spot at Monaco. He was one and a half race wins worth of points behind Fernando Alonso.
He NEEDED to win the Monaco Grand Prix to equal Ayrton Senna’s record of six wins in Monaco and give himself a shot at his eighth world title. On a track where it’s almost impossible to overtake, Ferrari were DESPERATE for pole position.
After setting the fastest time in Q3, he bizarrely “LOST CONTROL” of his car at 10 miles an hour at the Rascasse corner. Meanwhile, Fernando was on his hot lap, and two-tenths of a second up on Michael.
Schumy had clumsily “parked” across the track and triggered a yellow flag, forcing Alonso to abandon his lap.
Nearly every other driver on the grid called out Schumy on his “dirty tactics”. The FIA agreed with them; they denied him pole position and he was made to start from the Pit Lane.
Well, that backfired.
He drove an EPIC race on Sunday to finish 5th, while Alonso cruised to a comfortable victory and went on to claim the championship that year.
But while Fernando Alonso nearly got a rough deal in this incident, he was no stranger to benefitting from controversy.
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Freezing fuel, flexible front wings and hidden fuel-tanks - F1 engineers always find a clever way to push the limits of the rules.
Sometimes they get so close to the limit that it could be considered cheating, however, more often than not - they find an ingenious solution to forge new limits for their designs.
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@Driver61
@Driver61 2 роки тому
Which was your favourite cheat? Got to admit, some of them are GENIUS 🤯 *Remember to SUBSCRIBE*
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
You forgot to mention the jump starts in 1999
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
Imagine the social media outrage if Hamilton did what Schumacher did in Monaco ‘06 lol😂
@KimiButNoDrink
@KimiButNoDrink 2 роки тому
2007 McLaren and Ferrari
@KimiButNoDrink
@KimiButNoDrink 2 роки тому
@@phoenix1279 Or Jerez 97
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
@@KimiButNoDrink Oh my god, I can’t even imagine how toxic Social Media would be then😂
@digit975
@digit975 2 роки тому
Surprised you didn’t mention the jump start at the 1999 European GP when a bunch of teams hacked the start procedure to tell their drivers when to go. Then Charlie Whiting found out and trolled them into jump starting. Such a funny story.
@deiwi
@deiwi 2 роки тому
I was looking forward to this one, hahaha. My all time favourite cheat.
@amershaqra4617
@amershaqra4617 2 роки тому
he did mention it in another video
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 2 роки тому
@@amershaqra4617 yes. Even Maki Nishikino also remembered Nurburgring 1999.
@tehsimo
@tehsimo 2 роки тому
he's mentioned that in previous videos.
@johnj9111
@johnj9111 2 роки тому
@@tehsimo he’s mentioned at least 2 of these in other videos too. What’s your point?
@khoiapham4822
@khoiapham4822 2 роки тому
technically these are some of the worst cheaters bc they got caught. the best cheats we would never know of
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
So you mean any team could be cheating? Even Haas or Alfa Romeo?
@cesardepena7498
@cesardepena7498 2 роки тому
This means any team could be cheating. Hass tho think they are not.
@lohithreddy6629
@lohithreddy6629 2 роки тому
Mercedes laughing their ass rn
@cesardepena7498
@cesardepena7498 2 роки тому
@@lohithreddy6629 wdym
@cesardepena7498
@cesardepena7498 2 роки тому
@Robo cause he fast as bolt
@chrissdevano
@chrissdevano 2 роки тому
Alonso when he saw the yellow flags at Monaco: “No Michael No! That was so not right!”
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
@@finkijlua4851 Not clicking those sus links, thank you very much *bot*
@jezza9617
@jezza9617 2 роки тому
HAHAHAHA, thats just such a great one man, salute
@gbsoffiati
@gbsoffiati 2 роки тому
hilarious this
@AKracecars
@AKracecars 2 роки тому
Too soon bro. Too soon
@wowotolff
@wowotolff 2 роки тому
All the time you have to be fair! Understood?
@paulmckinstry6374
@paulmckinstry6374 2 роки тому
My favourite fact about that Hans Heyer incident is that he was also officially disqualified from the race, meaning that his race weekend result was an unprecedented DNQ+DNF+DSQ.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 2 роки тому
Yes
@therrydicule
@therrydicule 2 роки тому
That's a Gordy Howe's hat trick of formula one?
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
@@purwantiallan5089 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 роки тому
@@purwantiallan5089 i bet Glock might do the trick.
@damarfadlan9251
@damarfadlan9251 2 роки тому
@@therrydicule yes.
@brianvogt8125
@brianvogt8125 2 роки тому
Ferrari's fuel rate cheating must be the most brilliant in history. Precisely picking intervals of 0.45 of a millisecond seems insanely difficult.
@toddb930
@toddb930 2 роки тому
I think it would actually be quite easy. You have a microcomputer that knows when the fuel flow sensor is being asked for a reading and the time between readings. You just crank up the fuel pressure between fuel flow readings.
@manas5834
@manas5834 2 роки тому
@@toddb930 Knowing and saying that now in hindsight would be easy but discovering it would need wayyy more genius minds hence why other teams didnt do it, except red bulls even more intelligent engineers :D
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 2 роки тому
@@toddb930 ...dude
@toddkrein
@toddkrein 2 роки тому
@@toddb930 While the implementation might be straight forward, how do you determine when the sampling is actually happening? The trick is in teh synchronization.
@toddb930
@toddb930 2 роки тому
@@toddkrein there is likely a microprocessor handling the timing of the fuel flow readings and telemetry data gathering. The same microprocessor may be able to communicate with the fuel pump and/or fuel pressure regulator. If it can't communicate directly it could send a message to the microprocessor that can.
@mclarenscca
@mclarenscca 2 роки тому
Ferrari's fuel pump cheat was brilliant, just as Red Bulls way to expose them!
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@caddyrack
@caddyrack 2 роки тому
@@alunesh12345 go and preach somewhere else
@tvnostalgia7477
@tvnostalgia7477 2 роки тому
Says Mr McLaren 🤣
@mclarenscca
@mclarenscca 2 роки тому
@@tvnostalgia7477 erm, okay. Not sure where you are goin with this...
@danthaman7777
@danthaman7777 Рік тому
How did red bull expose them
@digit975
@digit975 2 роки тому
This type of insane engineering is why I love F1 as a whole. It’s such a shame that people are so toxic about “my driver is the best ever and your driver is an absolute moron not fit to be a taxi driver”. The true heroes are the engineers that understand these incredibly complex machines to this extent. Obviously it should be punished but that 2019 Ferrari engine thing is nuts!
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@dirtcrazykid9674
@dirtcrazykid9674 2 роки тому
@@alunesh12345 why are the christians always on f1 videos
@mehtalubis4001
@mehtalubis4001 Рік тому
@@dirtcrazykid9674 bcs jesus rides f1
@toddabowden
@toddabowden Рік тому
@@mehtalubis4001 hahaha Also, have you ever ridden with the taxi driver in Guatemala City? Comparing someone's driving to that of a taxi cab driver means they don't understand how absolutely insane, while demanding precision, some taxi cab drivers are able to command their vehicles. Plus many of them are motorsports enthusiasts; if the country had more money, they could produce some really good drivers I would imagine because they practice from the first day they're on the road at driving fast and just barely at the brink of disaster.
@bighunterman77
@bighunterman77 Рік тому
all racing is like this. the sanctioning body sets rules, and the engineers and crew chiefs(that's the guys in control of a car during a nascar weekend) and such are all there to play within and without these rules. sometimes you get caught, sometimes you just talk about it 15 years later on a podcast.
@chrismuz
@chrismuz 2 роки тому
Hans Heyer, the true GOAT, with an unbreakable record: he managed to DNQ, DNS, DNF und DSQ in a single race.
@shinysniper9537
@shinysniper9537 10 місяців тому
I don't think he had a DNS in that race
@PhilipTrouble
@PhilipTrouble 5 місяців тому
@@shinysniper9537 He was officially ruled DNS as a clarification later on when there was an argument if an illegally started race should count as a started race
@michaelisaacson9735
@michaelisaacson9735 2 роки тому
That's the first time I heard an explanation of what Ferrari did to the fuel flow rate. I didn't know it had been figured out. It was sure kept quiet on Sky commentary!
@vasudevdehariya1269
@vasudevdehariya1269 2 роки тому
Check out "Chain Bear's" video on this saga. Its quite informative.
@michaelisaacson9735
@michaelisaacson9735 2 роки тому
@@vasudevdehariya1269 I'll look, thanks. I follow him so I don't know how I missed it.
@azreenklose7976
@azreenklose7976 2 роки тому
@@michaelisaacson9735 or you can go to donut media channels ......type " how Ferrari got better without cheating "....
@anubiam3004
@anubiam3004 Рік тому
The real sham of it was the penalty and disclosure process was a complete joke. The FIA and Ferrari came to a sealed agreement? WTF is that, how can we take the FIA seriously after that mess?
@hannuainsalo6825
@hannuainsalo6825 Рік тому
@@anubiam3004 Fia knew they were doing something, had no proof, couldn't find anything. They were forced to make a deal with Ferrari, you tell us, we don't punish you as hard. Even all that Ferrari was doing wasn't straight illegal, it was a grey area
@skidude9800
@skidude9800 2 роки тому
Great stories! The last Ferrari one still blows me away that the engineers could come up with something like that to work so consistently.
@DeeSeaAreEss
@DeeSeaAreEss 2 роки тому
My favourite cheat was the 81 Brabham. F1 had introduced a minimum height check. Gordon Murray reasoned that this could only happen in the pits so he developed a suspension system that crushed down under aero load and stayed compressed until a slow down lap returning the car to the legal height. Then he stuck a box (maybe a flask) with wires coming out. All the teams wondered how he was getting pace and what the box was all about. A “cheat” and a distraction.
@5naxalotl
@5naxalotl Рік тому
yes i was thinking about this one. there was a pinhole air bleed returning the car to proper height. my favorite though was the brabham fan car (iirc) where they lifted a corner with a foot during testing so the downforce wasn't apparent
@FITNESSOVER45
@FITNESSOVER45 9 місяців тому
​@@5naxalotllifted on the throttle?
@FITNESSOVER45
@FITNESSOVER45 9 місяців тому
8:09 I don't get how they got water and fuel to feed only fuel into engine
@albundy5992
@albundy5992 2 роки тому
I knew about the Ferrari being able to bypass the sensor, but I didn't know the details. So, they programmed the fuel pump to know when the sensor wasn't looking (and it looked a lot - 2,200 times per second) and then ensured the engine could take a 'gulp' as you put it, at that precise moment! GENIUS! LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
@maazahmed2336
@maazahmed2336 2 роки тому
This is what i love about formula 1. Just an ingenious way to get more power. Wow.
@sudattsdeadchannel3495
@sudattsdeadchannel3495 2 роки тому
That’s what engineering is
@alesksander
@alesksander 2 роки тому
best part about that system is also u can do in reverse. So at full throtle you are using more that allowed. But at part throttle less than allowed. WIN WIN perfect system.
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 2 роки тому
Well it certainly was clever but not genius... they got caught... and serves them right.
@davidf5449
@davidf5449 2 роки тому
And Merc still beat them lol
@mahadevovnl
@mahadevovnl 2 роки тому
You forgot the biggest cheat of all time, the Spygate of 2021: Max touching the Mercedes wing. OUTRAGE!
@joopbekkema6490
@joopbekkema6490 2 роки тому
It is forbidden, written down in rules quite clearly, but you want your Crashstappen to be able to fuck all rules about tracklimits, safetycars, flags and what have you, and this one as well?
@mahadevovnl
@mahadevovnl 2 роки тому
@@joopbekkema6490 Yes. Yes I do.
@ananthu8534
@ananthu8534 2 роки тому
Exactly 😂 Mercedes front wing remained stable after Lewis crashing into Max at Saudi Arabia . It's rear wing got "damaged" by a mere touch from Max 🤣🤣 . This guy will never include Mercedes' DRS infringement in this video , he is a Hamilton fanatic .
@Malc664
@Malc664 2 роки тому
@@ananthu8534 The extra gap was paper thin and no performance would have come from it. Fia did not want Merc or Ham to win the WDC or constructors.
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
@@ananthu8534 Stop hating on Hamilton everywhere
@_NoDrinkTheBleach
@_NoDrinkTheBleach 2 роки тому
I remember arguing with people about Piquet's Singapore crash at the time. It was strange how many folks thought it wasn't intentional.
@turbofrayer
@turbofrayer 2 роки тому
Imagine outsmarting cheaters that outsmarted anti-cheat sensors lol
@fastmadcow
@fastmadcow 2 роки тому
Lmao 5Head moment
@venukrithish007
@venukrithish007 2 роки тому
I forgot how dirty Schumi can be. I can't imagine how he would be judged with current social media era
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@venukrithish007
@venukrithish007 2 роки тому
@@alunesh12345 What's the point in posting this here mate
@jackhughman282
@jackhughman282 2 роки тому
@@venukrithish007 to annoy people, lol.
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque 2 роки тому
Based on the 2021 season, today he'd be voted "driver of the day" for that stunt. It seems the new fans appreciate pushing (beyond) the limits of what's fair more than race craft itself.
@baclava69
@baclava69 2 роки тому
@@Pandamasque based off hams dirty tactics, I agree.
@GonzoDonzo
@GonzoDonzo 2 роки тому
Thats just incredible that someone figured out u could take advantage of those gaps in the fuel flow sensors polling rate. I cant even begin to imagine the complexity involved in pulsing extra fuel at the correct timing to beat it. Just fantastic
@DiktaturenF1
@DiktaturenF1 2 роки тому
You need some praise for the production quality mate. It's an absolute pleasure to watch your videos!
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
@THAMI♥️% Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@imibuks-replit
@imibuks-replit 2 роки тому
Wtf 2 bots?? Anyway you are correct dikt
@bence.gabor.slezak
@bence.gabor.slezak 2 роки тому
Crashing to gain or give advantage from the safety car is just disgraceful, but beating the control equipment with engineering is always very impressive. And "smuggling" your car onto the track is just incredible.
@777smuki
@777smuki 2 роки тому
Could Latifi’s crash be a deliberate act triggering a safety car to facilitate Verstappen’s claiming the championship?
@bence.gabor.slezak
@bence.gabor.slezak 2 роки тому
@@777smuki I don't think so. He's in a different team, gained nothing with the outcome. Perez however, even if he didn't get instructions from the team, it was a very dirty move. Seing things like this is the main reason I don't watch F1, the Abu Dabi GP just ended up all over the internet.
@777smuki
@777smuki 2 роки тому
@@bence.gabor.slezak Thank you for your honest and nonprejudicial comments. I too have come to the same opinion for watching formula 1 - the issue at Spa this year demonstrated their credibility.
@bence.gabor.slezak
@bence.gabor.slezak 2 роки тому
@@777smuki I'll check that out tomorrow.
@MeltingRubberZ28
@MeltingRubberZ28 2 роки тому
@@bence.gabor.slezak remember when Bottas tried to hold up Max ar Zandvort? Is he dirty too?
@gentlecareledward
@gentlecareledward 2 роки тому
Lol drivers cutting corners, Abu Dhabi flashback😂
@pmenzel86
@pmenzel86 2 роки тому
"The most genius cheats that you've probably never heard of" I think most of us are at least vaguely familiar with all of them! Still, a nice compilation!
@Parc_Ferme
@Parc_Ferme 2 роки тому
It's the first time that I heard about Ferrari's 2019 cheat on detail. Thanks Scott
@kenatta9006
@kenatta9006 2 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/joWnhK96rnlozYk.html here maybe if you wnt to know more about it
@danielsgrunge
@danielsgrunge 2 роки тому
We can only imagine how many championships were won by cheats that we will never find out
@tihs87
@tihs87 2 роки тому
I would add 2021 to that list, but that's just me being silly.
@siddheshshivraj3534
@siddheshshivraj3534 2 роки тому
@@tihs87 that's surely you being salty
@ananthu8534
@ananthu8534 2 роки тому
Mercedes-Benz 2014 to 2020 Coughs 😁
@mirkof2068
@mirkof2068 2 роки тому
@@ananthu8534 to be honest Mercedes has defo being cheating since 2013 illegal tyre test in hungary so rosberg can win in Monaco and the advantage they had in terms of PU since 2014 nobody could legally match it Till now even i wonder why and i wonder why the engine so quickly got changed from v10 to v8 and after a Hand full of years v8 we getcv6 hybrid where only Mercedes build a engine ahead of everyone
@tihs87
@tihs87 2 роки тому
@@siddheshshivraj3534 Nah it's just on Sundays I prefer racing over business.
@edgardoestares9891
@edgardoestares9891 2 роки тому
Mercedes found a miraculous 2019 Ferrari speed in the last 4 races of 2021, when engine development was banned for the entire year. Pulling away from RB at will wasn't from aero work. The way Lewis came back on Max on the last lap, on old tires, after being passed, showed incredible power disparity between the two. One of those two was working in the gray area and it wasn't Honda.
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 2 роки тому
On the last lap Hamilton had a tow and a new engine. Over time the engine gets slower, as friction gets more and more.
@edgardoestares9891
@edgardoestares9891 2 роки тому
@@keelanrose5706 Hamilton was dominating that race and had it in the bag until Latifi kissed the wall. The speed he had was not a product of a tow. He was alone, pulling away from the rest, the entire race.
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 2 роки тому
They exploited what I consider to be a loophole: They used new engine components for the last few races which allowed them to turn up the engine to a more powerful setting, but it would not last many races like that. They took an engine penalty for using the extra components. It was all within the rules. If you think the penalty was too lenient & the rules for new engine components need to be harsher, then I agree with you.
@crusherbmx
@crusherbmx 2 роки тому
Great video! This is why I love F1 and motor racing in general, cheating isn't frowned on, in fact it's admired...until you get caught, and then you find another way to cheat.
@5naxalotl
@5naxalotl Рік тому
people speak with great admiration of the legendary NASCAR cheats. iirc there was a restrictor bypass that only operated when you tightened the air filter bolts. remove the filter, and nothing to see here!
@vasudevdehariya1269
@vasudevdehariya1269 2 роки тому
I am not buying the fact that Mercedes were this quick all these years without breaking any rules. They probably were just smart enough to not get caught.
@ArisRoutis
@ArisRoutis 2 роки тому
Of course they did, starting with the pirelli illegal testing scandal.
@vl3005
@vl3005 2 роки тому
@ur couzin As much as I love Mercedes. I have a feeling they've done some illegal tweaking, too. Their performance difference (Yes Valtteri's too, proving it's not just Lewis that started driving better) over the rest of the teams rose above the 1%, while Redbull's sank to 0.4% due to wear and tear. Mercedes were still faster as a whole the rest of the season but only edging out Redbull by a very small margin. Brazil's new engine was when that jump to >1% happened. I'm taking these numbers from ChainBear I think... Not sure. Don't remember where I saw it.
@karllizades7235
@karllizades7235 2 роки тому
Maybe they were developing their future cars earlier than other teams, or maybe they do something suspicious
@TrueLeviathan86
@TrueLeviathan86 2 роки тому
Or having so much political power to do not get penalised like with DAS. DAS was legal yea, just for 1 year. Such a coincidence. Same with the wholes in their wheels etc...
@indiebekonn
@indiebekonn 2 роки тому
IIRC they were developing the engines two years prior to everyone else
@BBROPHOTO
@BBROPHOTO 2 роки тому
Happy New Year my man! Thanks for all the content in 2021 :D
@philipcaseyacalloway204
@philipcaseyacalloway204 Рік тому
The timing disruption with the board is awesome 😂😂 That's some excellent work there!
@the_lost_navigator7266
@the_lost_navigator7266 2 роки тому
I wonder what 'loopholes' the teams in F1 will find in the new regulations. Happy new year!
@dave23024
@dave23024 10 місяців тому
It's basically a competition of one-off prototypes and experimental parts, but teams still accuse each other of cheating... 🤣
@teddsellerno7625
@teddsellerno7625 2 роки тому
No BS intros, this channel rocks, thank you.
@victorlacallezando363
@victorlacallezando363 2 роки тому
Good Morning Scott, I really like how you changed the style of your videos from static to more dynamic. thanks for your awesome content Victor
@AranenDen
@AranenDen 2 роки тому
The best cheat is the one we never heard of 😂 I must admit, using the pitbord to influence lap timing devices is just pure gold.
@radamus210
@radamus210 2 роки тому
Cool vid! Bunch of stuff I either didn't know or had forgotten how big of a deal it was when it happened. In all fairness, if the engineers are looking for the gray area they aren't doing their job. The one thing I can't stand in F1 is the chaos of quali~ it's such bull. It's not a football game with teammates it's life and death seriousness. Maybe when someone is killed they will review the design and it's flaws.
@ReydeCopas187
@ReydeCopas187 2 роки тому
Brilliant videos mate, very interesting and informative!!! Greetings from Straya!!!
@adam346
@adam346 2 роки тому
I always found the idea of trying to out-wit the FIA (on a technical basis) as part of the game.. not always a fan of the on-track shenaniganery though.
@dos_gringos9853
@dos_gringos9853 2 роки тому
Yeah, unless it directly affects someone else, (like crashing on purpose, wrecking other cars, etc) bending the rules and finding ways to outsmart your competitors has always been one of the most interesting things about Motorsport imo. Edit: my favorite example of this is the NASCAR driver from the 70s who got around fuel tank size restrictions by having an 8 inch wide fuel hose
@joacopetit7541
@joacopetit7541 2 роки тому
Conveniently left out the many many times Mercedes cheated in the last few years, those would be great to see in detail, flex wings, spicy fuel, directional brakes, etc ;) great content and happy new year!
@MrJCHsteel
@MrJCHsteel 2 роки тому
And an extra oiltank for oil injection
@Scorpion81177
@Scorpion81177 2 роки тому
And DAS
@alfyb4512
@alfyb4512 8 місяців тому
My favorite remains the Prost - Senna “ooops, we’re telling your car to go slower” scandal.
@alexx7430
@alexx7430 2 роки тому
I love this channel, so nice to be given motorsport info from someone who has raced in Formula cars
@keisuketakahasi4584
@keisuketakahasi4584 2 роки тому
i remember another one: around 2000? the lights on the race start always went out in a pattern (like always 5.4 secs or so) so some teams figured it out and the driver got a beep in the ear 100ms before the lights went out. fia found out but didnt tell anyone, on one gp they simply went longer before the lights go out and some drivers who used the system jumped the start. caught. lol
@marcomolinari94
@marcomolinari94 2 роки тому
He didn't mention it because it was a part of the previous video and it was actually BULLSHIT (and he finally recognized that): 1) The start of the 1999 European was aborted because Zanardi and a Minardi stopped at the wrong place on the starting grid. 2) even if this stupid theory of "cheating" was true, then why did none of those teams (those who jumped the start) get any kind of investigation or penalty during/after the race?
@keisuketakahasi4584
@keisuketakahasi4584 2 роки тому
@@marcomolinari94 1) he covered some that were mentioned before 2) idk if its true or not and i didnt watch the race so no idea what exactly happened with penalties and so on. i didnt bother checking it either tbh
@kingofcars369
@kingofcars369 Місяць тому
Yea, its 1999 european. Funniest race start ever
@geiers6013
@geiers6013 2 роки тому
They (literally) put rocket fuel on the race track. I seriously am happy how far F1 safety has come and how strict the rules are...
@alaric_
@alaric_ 2 роки тому
Well, to be fair, toluene was the go-to fuel of the F1-cars in the 1980's. I mean literally everyone with a turbo used it, 86% toluene and 14% filler to lower octane rating to FIA requirements. So it was just FIA approved fuel without the filler. And the toxicity? Yes it it harmfull and poisonous, also causes sensation of 'high' when sniffed from glues or paint thinners... If get my meaning. The fact that it COULD be used as a rocket fuel, does not make it ONLY a rocket fuel. Or, did you know that women blond their hairs using 3% mix of currently used rocket fuel? It's toxic, irritant, corrosive and still in wide use today.
@geiers6013
@geiers6013 2 роки тому
@@alaric_ You are right, but I am not upset about that they used it, but that one team put it on the race track to lower weight.
@adamwoodford7629
@adamwoodford7629 2 роки тому
Can we all stop saying 'literally' unnecessarily?! It's fucking literal already!
@geiers6013
@geiers6013 2 роки тому
@@adamwoodford7629 Ok
@rotor676
@rotor676 2 роки тому
Excellent video. Happy new years to you sir
@franciscolima5892
@franciscolima5892 2 роки тому
Next video will be when FIA and F1 Teams don’t get caught cheating, plz don’t forget to include the last season ending 😂 🤣 great content btw
@simonhodgson8333
@simonhodgson8333 2 роки тому
I'm surprised to see the Benetton fuel rig issue in here. FIA (through one of it's officials) approved the removal of the filter , even giving instructions on how it should be removed. The particle that caused the fuel rig to jamb was much smaller that what would have been screened by the relatively coarse mesh in question. If I recall correctly other teams asked for and were given permission to remove this filter as well though I don't recall if they ended up removing it for the race. To me it seems that the FIA was looking for a scapegoat and the filter removal was an easy target when in reality it was likely unrelated.
@joejohnnys
@joejohnnys 2 роки тому
Wrong. Only Ligier had the Fia approval
@dougconner95
@dougconner95 2 роки тому
This isn't true mate, it's a good story but not a factual one.
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 2 роки тому
Yet nobody else had fuel spraying all over the pit lane & bursting into flames. What a weird coincidence 🙄
@massluca0078
@massluca0078 2 роки тому
Ferrari got off so lucky with their 2019 exploits. what they did is akin to what Toyota did with the restrictor plate in WRC in the 90s. and the fact that they possibly developed the 2014 engines with this trick in mind means they were in jeopardy of loosing all previous race results from when that was implemented, thats such a gamble. but also its amazing how such a 'basic' exploit haddent been thought of much sooner, older fuel slow sensors must have had a far lower refresh rate.
@Wildturkey10121
@Wildturkey10121 2 роки тому
I'm still angry about this! The shenanigans they were up to should have been made public as well as the agreement they made. I'm tired of those red cars getting so much special treatment. I know they have been in F1 longer and all that, but they are just another constructor and don't deserve the special treatment they get....in my opinion.
@Cloxxki
@Cloxxki 2 роки тому
Politics are just more important nowadays. One step below wokeness.
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 2 роки тому
@@Wildturkey10121 Its more complicated, after the tecnical regulations were issue at the 2019 US GP, Ferrari lost most of its edge, in Spa and Monza it was just ridiculous how fast they were. FIA actually had a problem, if Red Bull waited for a race and issued a complain, Ferrari car would be impounded, and an investigation would happen, but because Ferrari backed out after the directives, there was no way FIA could prove wrong doing, and saying you were faster was not enough, the only way to prove it was if Ferrari told them, and that is what happened, the deal was made secret to protect their brand, but also the FIA, because it is rumoured that there were penalties, that were the culprits of Ferrari awful 2020 season. Also the FIA got help from Ferrari in policing these engines in the future, the FIA needs the teams because Unfortunately these engines are far too complex, and the regulator cant just guess, they don't have the facilities teams have.
@AZBCDEE
@AZBCDEE 2 роки тому
Ferrari are never punished/lightly punished. If it was mclaren doing the same thing or red bull or Mercedes’ there would be more serious consequences as we saw in 07.
@pedrorequio5515
@pedrorequio5515 2 роки тому
@@AZBCDEE Mosley actually despised Mclaren boss Ron Dennis, it is a known mutual hatred, Renault for the same crime paid nothing.
@mikeoconnell2786
@mikeoconnell2786 2 роки тому
Great video have a great new year scott and team..
@dsdunleavy1139
@dsdunleavy1139 Рік тому
Another top video - thank you ! Was wondering what you use for your stock video / pictures?
@protham123
@protham123 2 роки тому
Whoa whoa whoa, I was enjoying this video right up until I got up to the point about Benetton, I in fact just finished reading the Steve Matchett book about the 1994 season while he was a mechanic with the team and in fact Betnetton was cleared of not having cheated, another team had also removed that exact same filter.
@gooderish
@gooderish 2 роки тому
Being cleared and being innocent are two separate things. They cheated.
@KimiButNoDrink
@KimiButNoDrink 2 роки тому
2007 and 2019 vibes right here
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
@@finkijlua4851 We got a bot spamming the comments section
@VodkaRob
@VodkaRob 2 роки тому
Great video yet again. Thank you ✌️😎
@snack711
@snack711 2 роки тому
first time i heard of the 2019 ferrari "innovations", thank you for explaining :)
@AngryChristian1
@AngryChristian1 2 роки тому
This isn't exactly cheating but one of my favorite Rosberg stories is when Schumacher locked himself in the bathroom, forcing Nico to pee in a pot of oil, which ended up psychologically throwing Nico off during his qualifying lap.
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 2 роки тому
that's funny
@PresidentScrooge
@PresidentScrooge Рік тому
That's fecking hilarious. Good thing Nico didn't have to take a shit.
@user-ck7jv1hn8k
@user-ck7jv1hn8k Рік тому
Doing all that just to get smoked by Nico
@philh9421
@philh9421 2 роки тому
“Tracing Point” 🤣🤣🤣 I’d not heard that one…
@kyledonnington4957
@kyledonnington4957 2 роки тому
really bro, thats like one of the most famous nicknames 😂😂
@Mercilessonion
@Mercilessonion 2 роки тому
2020 had it plastered everywhere
@MrDocDamage
@MrDocDamage 2 роки тому
Stared the video in 2021 and watched it through 2022. Happy New Year 🥳
@MathewBT81
@MathewBT81 2 роки тому
Love love love this, imagine the sneaks being dreamed up for 2022!! 😀
@EnadizKaitoon
@EnadizKaitoon 2 роки тому
Looking back on history of cheating is somehow interestig. But I think if you could tell us the cases of cleverly beating loophole legally (in another video) would be greater.
@thegregdavieschannel
@thegregdavieschannel 2 роки тому
I'm not sure the Ferrari engine fuel sensor should be classed as a cheat. It may not have complied with the spirit of the regs, but it did on paper comply with the fia's then ability to measure it. The documentary, gentleman lift your skirts, from the early 80's explained the situation really well just after sliding skirts and minimum ground clearance rules were introduced. The other half of what's allowed by the rules, is what can be measured, static measurements often don't match up with dynamic loadings, they only indicate what could happen. As an engineer I love interpreting the rules and playing with the properties of what can or can't be measured.
@gibospartan6185
@gibospartan6185 2 роки тому
The rules mandated that the fuel flow couldn’t exceed a certain rate at any time. Ferrari were able to exceed this rate without it being detected by the FIA. While the FIA couldn’t detect it, having higher fuel flow was forbidden so it was illegal.
@thegregdavieschannel
@thegregdavieschannel 2 роки тому
@@gibospartan6185 the ambiguity is being legal within the meaning of the rules and being legal with their ability to measure legality.
@gibospartan6185
@gibospartan6185 2 роки тому
@@thegregdavieschannel The rules said that fuel flow could not excede a certain rate which it did though was not detected. It's like saying it's legal for someone to drive their car at whatever speed they like, as long as they don't get caught by a speed camera. It's still illegal. Exceding the fuel flow limit was explicitely forbidden meaning the solution was illegal but they evaded the law so to speak. It's the engineering equivalent of organised crime. They knew what they were doing was illegal but they made sure they did it when the law wasn't looking. It was smart, but still illegal.
@TristianWrites
@TristianWrites 2 роки тому
To be fair. That’s why F1 engineers are some of the best in the world. That Ferrari cheat was genius.
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 2 роки тому
Not really, they got caught.... clever though.
@Michelle_Schu-blacka
@Michelle_Schu-blacka 7 місяців тому
I didn't know the Verstappen incident was caused by removing the filter. But the Ferrari fuel flow and intercooler cheat was genius! I genuinely don't mind a bit of creative cheating in F1. In a sport that used to only attract Petrolhead nerds like myself, we used to love learning about the technical side and the innovations and cheats teams used to get ahead.
@fahimrind9714
@fahimrind9714 2 роки тому
harry shell just took a different racing line, that's all
@TedSchoenling
@TedSchoenling 2 роки тому
c'mon Beneton didn't cheat with the refueling rig.. the manufacturer said removing the filter was okay
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 2 роки тому
Excellent video... i love it that the ferrari is on the headline 🤣🤣🤣👍🏽🇬🇧
@brandonhoffman4712
@brandonhoffman4712 2 роки тому
For me nothing beats watching your opponent spill lead shot all over the ground which just came from the vehicle... BUSTED! You can't get much closer than actually spilling the beans!
@DavidNatanael
@DavidNatanael 2 роки тому
Speaking of cheats, what do you think of the cheat done by the Toyota Team in WRC 1995? I believe it's still the most ingenious cheat in WRC ever.
@saopaolodelacruz1007
@saopaolodelacruz1007 9 місяців тому
I think some people don't know of that "disposable" turbo restricter they pulled out, or the Ford's surge tank lol
@Woodsy3211
@Woodsy3211 6 місяців тому
Or the self-spooling turbos
@mn1907
@mn1907 2 роки тому
I respect Schumacher skills but his tactic was really dirty sometimes
@dannnyb
@dannnyb 2 роки тому
I agree but Monaco 2006 wasnt the only time, Jerez 1997 which got him DQ'd from the whole championship and Adelaide 1994 which he got away with, were all demonstrations of his dirty tactics
@mirkof2068
@mirkof2068 2 роки тому
Thats championship tactics doing every thing possible to win senna even purposely took out prost 1990 just because he started on p1 on the dirty side of the grid because prost jumped him at start and senna tried the entire weekend to get the fia to change the grid postions what never happened same champion tactics that Alonso 2007 in hungary in quali, lewis also in hungary this year slowing down massively so Max cant improve its not dirty tactics its champion tactics only a few champions didnt use them Fangio, Häkkinen, Räikkönen as example but the big ones Schumi, lewis, prost,vettel, alonso all used the champion tactics
@diogo6716
@diogo6716 2 роки тому
@@mirkof2068 Senna just got revenge for what happened the year before
@martinbonner2585
@martinbonner2585 2 роки тому
Surprised wasn't mentioned when he crashed and blatantly took our hill, who would have beat him to the championship
@mirkof2068
@mirkof2068 2 роки тому
@@diogo6716 thats 50% of the Story i dont think senna would have taken prost out when the grid postions got changed
@gibospartan6185
@gibospartan6185 2 роки тому
At one time Brabham had a strategy for qualifying in which, after they set the fastest time they would fake an oil leak, purposefully dropping oil on track so that nobody could go faster.
@johnnyp8051
@johnnyp8051 2 роки тому
McLearn stealing tech data from Ferrari using internal spies was pretty incredible
@antonisapostolou5139
@antonisapostolou5139 2 роки тому
Good video! I'd love one explaining how Mercedes find 0.5-1.0 sec every end of the season just when they are really needing it.
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 2 роки тому
It was a new engine this year. idk about other years, as I only started watching f1 about after the Monaco p this year.
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 2 роки тому
Silverstone was the first full f1 race I have ever watched.
@user-eh1gc7xo7q
@user-eh1gc7xo7q 2 роки тому
Being able to utilise engine parts strategically throughout the season is key for a WDC fight
@BAndersen-ee1xy
@BAndersen-ee1xy 2 роки тому
Schumacher had some dodgy incidents, definitely. Jerez in ‘97, the Monoco car park situation, but the ‘94 situations are definitely presented with a British perspective. Scott fails to mention here that the evidence showed that Benetton did not use traction control and thus they were not punished. Other teams that had traction control had the same software as the year before but the tc was not able to be used.Michael just out drove Hill in the superior Williams even with the significant horsepower deficit the Ford Z-tec-R V8 had to the incredible Renault V10. And the fuel filler incident was a modification approved by the manufacturer and that other teams were doing the same thing. I’m a little tired of people suggesting that Michael won in ‘94 by cheating when this year shows just how good Michael was at his best. Definitely a season worth watching again, even with the terrible events of the San Marino GP.
@ultrascreens5206
@ultrascreens5206 Рік тому
Exactly and the DSQ's he got and race bans where ridiculous after having rewatched the season review. Has he lost it would have been robbery.
@dingrey
@dingrey 9 місяців тому
And fails to mention mclaren were kicked out of the championship for spygate , just the 100 mill fine
@10secondsrule
@10secondsrule Рік тому
Incredibly interesting topic. Thank you for making it. I had no idea about the Ferrari cheating in 2020. Ah Italians…
@alaric_
@alaric_ 2 роки тому
Suggestion: make similar video of cheating in the WRC. There are several although perhaps not as many when compared to F1. Couple cheats: Toyota used the turbo case design so that it draws more air than was allowed giving it 25% more volume to use. Another team (cannot remember which) made it's rear side windows too thin to save weight. Another team notived this and exposed them.
@ukps9632
@ukps9632 2 роки тому
I hope they find out whatever Merc are doing with LH's car
@ia303
@ia303 2 роки тому
It's called having the best engine and high speed aero package, smoothbrain.
@ukps9632
@ukps9632 2 роки тому
@@ia303 that's what a cheater would say
@ia303
@ia303 2 роки тому
@@ukps9632 no it's what someone who knows anything remotely accurate about F1 would say. It's only random no name social media accounts like you saying the Merc car was illegal at this point. Ask yourself why that is, and realise it's because you're desperately clinging onto the idea that Lewis is all car and no talent, rather than acknowledging the reality that Lewis, like Max, is a generational talent who can do things most other F1 drivers can only dream of.
@DavidCP524
@DavidCP524 2 роки тому
@@ia303 it was straightline speed in Brazil, not talent. Do you remember why party mode was banned? It was because Mercedes were abusing the engine token system by pushing their engine beyond it's limits and then making performance upgrades as "reliability" updates. Then this year we see them abuse the engine penalty system by using extra engines to gain power. They belong in this video as their methods aren't nearly as clever as Ferrari.
@ia303
@ia303 2 роки тому
@@DavidCP524 ok David, keep telling yourself that. You've got former F1 drivers acknowledging the fact that Lewis drove an impeccable sprint quali and race, and yet you and your fellow army of haters still stand by the falsehood that it was all car and no talent. Like, what more does Lewis have to do for you guys to acknowledge his talent? Are 7 world championships, 103 wins, 103 poles and all his amazing drives throughout his career not enough? Obviously having the best car that weekend helped Lewis, but ask yourself this. If Valtteri was given a cumulative 25 place grid penalty, do you really think he would be P1 in the race with, like, 10 laps to spare? I'm sorry there's no way he'd pull that off. That's the Lewis Hamilton effect, and only drivers like him and Max can do things like that.
@darrinwarner4046
@darrinwarner4046 2 роки тому
Benettons fire is a real reason there isn't any refueling in F1 and it was because of cheating. They should bring it back. It's no longer the mid 90s, I'm sure they could make it safe. Hell, they do it in Indy car!
@jordanclark4635
@jordanclark4635 2 роки тому
Yes, the incident *checks notes* 16 years before refuelling was banned was the reason refuelling was banned and won’t come back…
@calingligore
@calingligore Рік тому
8:22 it was later demonstrated that the traces of the fuel were so low it literally didn’t matter even if they were to somehow use the fuel. Which they couldn’t anyway.
@hiteshk8758
@hiteshk8758 2 роки тому
Loved the Tracingpoint tag 🤣 at least it didn’t happen during the Force India period
@sickbale
@sickbale 9 місяців тому
*FIA do nothing. Exactly as it did(n't) when RB went over the budget cap.*
@vladthemeatman7406
@vladthemeatman7406 2 роки тому
Honestly just makes the season spicier
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
True.
@jeffsteyn7174
@jeffsteyn7174 2 роки тому
Yeah gotta have that WWE tactics. And now we have a WWE champion.
@KimiButNoDrink
@KimiButNoDrink 2 роки тому
@@jeffsteyn7174 I bet you're the type of person to say CrAShstApPEn
@phoenix1279
@phoenix1279 2 роки тому
@@jeffsteyn7174 Cope
@Chris-xl6pd
@Chris-xl6pd 2 роки тому
@@KimiButNoDrink I bet youre a "bUt SilvErSTOne"
@darudy
@darudy 2 роки тому
Outstanding content as always
@MJ-de9fc
@MJ-de9fc 2 роки тому
This is one of the reasons I love formula 1 😂
@topiasr628
@topiasr628 2 роки тому
Dude haven't you remade this video like 3 times?
@stratman9449
@stratman9449 2 роки тому
i wonder when mercedes will finally get "cought".....now that will be funny......:-D i can already seeiToto going "bang bang bang"...... on the table of course....
@dorenciobarnes2390
@dorenciobarnes2390 2 роки тому
I really like this channel, they give you so much information.
@Mattsretiring
@Mattsretiring Рік тому
One of the old computer hacks used to be to program a hot map into the system which would delete and revert back to compliant once the power was shut off. Live telemetry made that obsolete.
@alanjm1234
@alanjm1234 2 роки тому
What happens when F1 gets caught cheating? Nothing.
@mesasartworks
@mesasartworks 2 роки тому
Almost good but, you totally forgot Mercedes AMG's tricks: a., Burning oil was first used in Mercedes engines, then may everybody remember well b., the DAS which found illegal, however they would able to use it all the 2020 season and helped Lewis to equalise 7 WDC with Michael Schumacher ... And who knows other illegal tricks was used or not? Lewis crossed the pit lane's white lines twice in Germany and never got a punishment, also he used to slow down the field more than 10 cars long distance in 2021 before every re-start to let cool down his opponents brakes at the front row on the grid Also two more cheats: +1: Brabham Alfa Romeo in Swedish GP with the huge fan atthe back of the car +2: Honda with the two fuel chambers, managing the fuel between to the opposite sides of the corners
@mooketsimolai2935
@mooketsimolai2935 2 роки тому
The DAS wasn't illegal in 2020 so they were allowed to run it; the FIA outlawed it for following seasons, hence no DAS on 2021 Merc
@SevenDeMagnus
@SevenDeMagnus 7 місяців тому
Honesty is the best policy. God bless.
@johnfitzgerald1131
@johnfitzgerald1131 6 місяців тому
I love using the pit board to check the timing loop lol, so dirty but simple.
@willisfouts4838
@willisfouts4838 2 роки тому
aaaaand the best cheats of the last 10 years: Mercedes!! Y’all know damn well they’ve been cheating for years and it’s just their cleverness that’s kept them fast and safe. Just like that car ‘miraculously’ finding 10s of kph in the last four races. Bull-ish
@keelanrose5706
@keelanrose5706 2 роки тому
That was the new engine.
@jocka10
@jocka10 2 роки тому
so... it was magic or did merc cheated for gaining almost 1 second from mexico race to brazil gp? how many times we`ve seen something like this happening from 1 race to another?
@charamia9402
@charamia9402 2 роки тому
Neither. They threw a bunch of engines at Bottas testing how they would last when they turned the power up (legal), then turned the power of Hamilton from 'quick' to 'rocketship' in hopes to secure the championship.
@WuschelWolf
@WuschelWolf 2 роки тому
I dunno, the little remarks and personal comments in between felt quite forced and kinda un-driver61-like to me. Still a great video and a happy new year to you and your entire crew!
@srhoke
@srhoke 2 роки тому
you forgot about the double fuel tank that BAR used in 2005 which could store 11kg of gas
@utkn
@utkn 2 роки тому
I'm baffled by these, were the people watching the timing boards not suspecting something when they saw Brambilla's time was set long before he crossed the finish line? Were there no spectators/stewards to notice that Schell cut a damn third of the track? Or that he suspiciously slowed down on the finish line? I understand that they didn't have PE sensors or other stuff, but how did nobody notice these extremely obvious cheats lol
@alunesh12345
@alunesh12345 2 роки тому
Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.🤩❤🤗😀
@dennisbakker5262
@dennisbakker5262 2 роки тому
Mercedes had engine ready before opting to the fia a 1.6 hybrid. Extreme headstart. Biggest cheat in f1 history. That is lewis his legacy
@woofy9977
@woofy9977 2 роки тому
exactly man! seriously messed up that it's just been trivialized like Merc didn't carry lewis for years now
@SINGH-ing
@SINGH-ing Рік тому
Honestly the term “Force of habit” should be re-termed as “Force of Ferrari” universally 😂
@horsepower523
@horsepower523 Рік тому
Force of Mclaren*
@964cuplove
@964cuplove 2 роки тому
I still recall your story about the headphones for the tank snorkel operator, maybe make another video about these things on the other side of the legal illegal border that where just clever
@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI
@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI 2 роки тому
Hold on, So Ferrari didn't fire the Stepney over the whole spygate thing??
@_mickmccarthy
@_mickmccarthy 2 роки тому
I assume they moved him to a job where they could keep an eye on him and keep him away from sensitive data as opposed to just letting him loose on the market, where he could share Ferrari's secrets to all
@rifath8152
@rifath8152 2 роки тому
Wait wait wait I thought Ferarri had already fired Stepney before this whole spygate investigation begins? There's a video of it on youtube
@thegregdavieschannel
@thegregdavieschannel 2 роки тому
I guess it would depend on what's more valuable to Ferrari, paying a salary or having all that information on the black market.
@stigmata77
@stigmata77 2 роки тому
@@rifath8152 yes, they moved him to another job before the spygate. It was because of an interview. He then tried to damage the engine before 2007 monaco gp and after that Ferrari discovered those documents.
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 2 роки тому
@@rifath8152 go to Aidan Millward's channel. He's done a great video on it, as has CY F1 (I think that's his new name, he was Cranky Yankee). Both are worth watching & subbing to them.
@ro3521
@ro3521 2 роки тому
If you're not cheating, you're not winning
@Pandamasque
@Pandamasque 2 роки тому
Can't remember which '70s driver/team it was that scored a pole in Dijon by using the short layout completely bypassing whole a series of corners. You also forgot the illegal sliding skirts that a driver could lift with a lever before pitting so the cars passed inspection.
@gabormiklay9209
@gabormiklay9209 2 роки тому
10:26 Haha! 😁 This wasn't cheating at all, and it cheekily phrased by you! 👍
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