These trucks have many more times torque than a standard diesel. To answer your question YES

The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. Electric motors can be configured to give much more torque than a diesel. The problem with electric drivetrains has never been about their ability to produce adequate power, it's how to feed them with the energy required to produce that power. An electric drivetrain can be much smaller than a diesel drivetrain yet produce far more torque and Hp. With a HFCV this is done using a battery pack as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Fuel cells (as sized for this application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) so they employ a battery that acts like a huge energy storage capacitor. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of energy for several minutes before needing to allow the fuel cell to refill or charge it back up. The engineers will almost certainly have designed the size of the battery pack to allow for hauling 25,000 kgs for several miles up a 6% grade. Tesla recently demonstrated their BEV semi doing this with 20,000 kgs, passing a diesel like it was standing still. And the Tesla semi likely weighs 8,000 to 10,000 pounds more than the Hyzon.

It looks more like a DAF CF cab mate

It does,@@honours1980 - good catch. So apparently they are working with two truck suppliers.

Also, trucks are not about speed, but torque and pulling power. Even if it could smoke a sports car, that wouldn't matter much out of the track.

So Hydrogen won, hey how bout that?

Just promo material not an actual race, calm down.

The hydrogen Hyzon truck won. Off the line it smoked it, then it had to slow down for corners.

There is videos of the Nikola truck doing all of that

If speed around a race track were actually relevant, a useful test would be to run one truck at a time (from the same starting position), and compare lap times. There is nothing useful about this exercise.

I agree, Hyzon has become very serious about this technology. As far as when you'll see them in Germany, I suspect it won't be too long. However, Germany doesn't yet have the Hydrogen infrastructure so it's hard to predict.

Interesting question. The water exiting the fuel cell will be quite hot but if it didn't evaporate it would freeze. Rolling down the road it wouldn't produce enough water to cause an issue. However, sitting at a light might present a problem.

Diesel and gasoline engines produce water vapour, too.

The diesel lost this race.

The diesel lost this race.

Right now only the companies who buy the trucks will have refueling capabilities I guess.

Yes But Against Ev Power produced by Hydrogen not Hydrogen power@@parrsnipps4495

No Tesla Won and it will keep winning

@@MeatGunz- Not true in this instance. The Hyzon is almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) which means it uses an electric drivetrain. This was made obvious by the way it launched from the starting line. A diesel ICE configured to burn hydrogen would not have had nearly the torque that an ICE burning diesel would have. Electric motors can be configured to give tremendous amounts of torque. Actually, if there wasn't such a problem feeding them the huge amounts of electrical energy they need to produce such power you'd see far more electric motors in transportation applications. Hopefully, improvements to Li-ion or other chemistries like sodium-ion or aluminum-ion will change this. By the way, since the Hyzon is likely using a fuel cell, it must also be using a fairly large battery acting as a buffer for the output of the fuel cell. Not nearly as large as the battery in a fully battery powered EV (like Tesla Semi's 900kWh battery pack), but likely between 15-20kWh.

That was no ICE. Burning H2 in an ICE won't give you the torque of a diesel. The way that Hyzon launched means it's almost certainly a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle (HFCV) with electric motors fed power from a small battery pack. Since fuel cells (as sized for an automotive application) typically cannot produce the amperage for sustained high performance applications (like repeated aggressive accelerations or extended periods of extreme high-speed driving) HFCV's require small battery packs to act as buffers for the fuel cell. The battery pack isn't nearly as large as in an EV and cannot provide sustained "battery powered EV only" driving for anything more than perhaps 15-20 miles before draining the battery. The battery packs can however, dump huge amounts of amperage for several minutes before needing to be allowed to recover. I can't say for certain though but this is how Toyota and Honda configure their production HFCV's. Hyzon may be doing something different but it's unlikely.

It doesn't matter, because it is a hybrid. At launch the battery is delivering the required power.

​@@Tron-Jockeyyes, the Hyzon is a typical fuel cell hybrid.

No one would bother carrying liquid oxygen in a land vehicle. The potential production of oxygen as a by-product of hydrogen production should be an economic benefit, but is irrelevant to hydrogen-fueled vehicles other than rockets (and few rockets are hydrogen-fueled). Hydrogen for rockets is actually produced, like essentially all commercially produced hydrogen, from natural gas. That process does not produce oxygen as a by-product.

@@brianb-p6586 My notion for the generalised industrial use of H2 is generation through electrolysis of sea water by dynamos actuated by many different techniques which harness what may be termed ‘ambient planetary energy’. The ‘cosmic motors’ for these are 1 - Sun; 2 - Moon; and 3 - Cosmic Gyre (or Universal Spin). To my own reflective process the two main ways used so far - solar panels and wind turbines - are the most inefficient and least desirable. Without knowing scientifically it appears to humble self that universal spin is probably the most generative - Earth’s turning shoves liquid against continents and the result weaves an integrated pattern of ocean currents over the globe. 2/5 the weight of liquid concrete slow but broad-fronted - 100s of miles. The power grid derivable from this would not require storage it will be concentrating the liveliness of earth just a little to make many times more available energy than on old bases of oils and coal. Oxygen comes with it which I mention because it is usually ignored and I though techniques might be developed to use it to ‘ginger’ up the oomphless burning of H2 in combustion engines.

Range is 400 to 600 km on a full tank of hydrogen.

Properly managed diesel engines do not spew black smoke.

@@brianb-p6586 Even when accelerating from complete stop? I'm a retired long haul driver, I have not seen a diesel engine that did not spew black cmoke from complete stop.

​@itch4travel when you were driving, did the engines use mechanical injection pumps? That old hardware is hopeless and cannot control injection volume well enough to avoid soot production under some conditions. You can't buy stuff that bad for on-road use any more.

@@brianb-p6586 mechanical injection pump. is 60s technology. Our first diesel car was an 180D Mercedes Benz with mechanical injection pump. I know the difference between mechanical and now modern injection pump.I have driven Kenworth, Freightliner, International and Volvo big trucks, they all emits black smoke on heavy acceleration and in going steep hills.

@@brianb-p6586 I retired as a long haul driveer in 2010, and not aware of new technology about diesel engine. I may be wrong.

Too savage

Meaning what? Which truck is better going up hill?

@@jake_break9185 Nikola made a promo video of their truck driving on a straight road, two years ago. Later it turned out the truck was using gravity (downhill) to move forward as it didn't have an engine. The CEO turned out to be a fraud. Hope this helps

Masterful Marketing at its finest. 👏👏👏

2023.09.28 Nikola Celebrates Entry Into HFCEV Market

"Hydro electric motors" don't exist. Electric motors, just like diesel engines, are available in a very wide range of sizes and outputs.

I think the bigger factor is that the Hyzon truck doesn't need to do gear changes.

Not a chance. No hydrogen-fueled vehicle is lighter than an equivalent diesel-fueled vehicle, due to the weight of the hydrogen tanks (the tanks themselves, not the hydrogen in them).

Perfect time for me to buy cheap 🥳