This. Most houses will live long enough to have the wiring become outdated and re-done at least one time, probably several times... which is so much easier with conduits

@steve1978ger actually house built to Italian standards,will outlive the electrical lines,the owner,his child and the next 10/20 generation to come 😂

Finalmente qualcuno che vede lontano😂la casa è sacra e verrà tramandata ai posteri😂ciao😊👍🏻

Not a fan of conduits. Use to do a lot of them back in the 1980's, and they need huge holes through studs (weakening framing), added material cost, and added complexity. Dont forget labor time to drill larger holes, reinforcement of studs, time for a double pull. It's pretty easy to add wires post construction in the US using the attic/sub floor space and long flex drills. Given a choice, i dont use conduit unless its in an unaccessible area, like under a slab to an island. Did a couple jobs where conduit was run horizontally in every wall for power and ethernet. Was a pain and doubled the install cost. Just put outlets every 2.5M, Wifi, and your done.

@Bill N we don’t build house with studs and drywall…we use concrete … you cannot pull wires trough concrete

Do they follow the brown - live, blue - neural, yellow/green - earth or do they use black for live

@@deps314 Many thanks for that detail. Yes I have Black LIVE and a very messy distribution board. Been trying to find and english speaking sparky here in Italy to comment upon it.

The Normativ 64-100/2 is just a recommendation not a must

@@flixmyswitch Do not forget, that when you are dealing wit ALTERNATING current, that the black (live/hot) and white (neutral) wires both have electricity flowing to and through them on an alternating cycle. That means that the neutral wire is just as hot as the hot wire.

As a user of italian houses I must say that while some of those coloured conduits are nice looking, pretty much all of them are always too small for any meaningful expansion or future proofing :( 3.5cm and 60º turns should be the minimum electricians put in considering we're not in the 900s any more and the tech that can go in a house these days can be quite varied.

Great 👍

Cheap flexible conduits are horrible for pulling stuff through, it keeps getting stuck on all sides. Non-flexible conduit is a lot easier. At least, that's my experience in my own home, had to completely remove a flexible conduit and replace it with non-flexible in order to actually get cable through it. I thought it would be easier. Boy, was I wrong. There is good flexible conduit though, with a smooth tube on the inside. But the cheap stuff is just really bad.

@@StCreed Just tape your new cable onto your old cable and make sure you cover the whole joint.. That way it's just a smooth wire being pulled through.

@@StCreed The technician poured some washing up liquid into the conduit to lubricate it - no problem. Proper cable lube is also a thing!

Seems very labor intensive just incase you want to add something later. I guess maybe the mafia had something to do with that. The thing about earth ground it is more for lightning strikes not for grounding for appliance protection against accidental contact with live wire. The single phase wiring in the States (120v/240v) joins the earth/appliance ground at the first panel ( after meter) to the common wire (split phase). I would assume it is the same everywhere but not sure about 3 phase wiring as that is used primarily in manufacturing.

That is nonsense.... after 2-3 bends you will not be able to change/upgrade any wiring...and all the other minuses of italian wiring/systems

Pull it all through in one go with a draw cable, easy really

@@angellino1 in The Netherlands we also use conduits bends are not a problem.

How often does one need to "upgrade" cable? Does cable need to be "upgraded" to keep up with new high speed electricity or something?

@@2loco My apartment came with some extra pipes with just a single wire in them, which you can use to install whatever you want. I had one running to the kitchen and one to the bedroom. Didn't need the one in the kitchen, used the one to the bedroom to pull a network cable. I also replaced the phone cable to the living room with both a phone and network cable. So not a daily occurrence, but exceptionally convenient when the need arises.

In the Peugeot factory (Vauxhall) in Ellesmere Port near Liverpool, when the French send over industrial machinery, they have to rewire parts of it.

@@johnburns4017 The grid in the UK and on the continent are practically identical. The only difference might have been the UK voltage is a bit higher at 240V nominal.

I dunno man I ordered a machine from Italy and when it arrived it needed a main fuse with a higher rating (on the advice of manufacturer). They sent updating drawings same day but as a mechanical engineer I was scratching my head over how it could have an incorrect fuse in the design. Seemed ropey to me

@@trespire It was the safety aspects of the wiring, not the voltage.

@@-BuddyGuy C'mon, when it comes to electricity, the Italians are undisputed, is this a sort of sabotaging made in Italy?

Seeing people struggling with the 3kW limitation of Italian power supplies - And noting I seldom (If ever) draw more than 1kW out of my UK supply (13,2kW day, 22kW night; An electrically heated home) at any point - I'm starting to wonder if my energy efficiency is considerably more German than I'd first thought?... ⚡🤏🙃

@@dieseldragon6756 that's what I think too. No wonder Americans are considered the biggest contributor to climate change pro capita.

I can’t imagine living with only 3kw supply! My dryer uses 5.5Kw, the AC uses 3.5kW, and i just switched my water heater for an electric on demand. The water heater alone takes 12kw!

@@stertheder well, i don't have a dryer so that helps. I live in a place where AC is not required as well. And heating is done from teleheating.

@@stertheder i live in germany, berlin and most of the apartments use electric on demand water heater with 11kW , we can still use the oven and stuff so i think 22kW are more or less the standard

My experience with flexible conduit is pretty bad, if you want to run additional cabling. But it's easier to install. I guess that's advantage is for the builder, not so much the user.

why use piping that has ridges, I would think it would be easier to pull the wire through smooth pipes. is there an advantage to using the ribbed tube?

@@robertharvey8054he corrugated pipes are only knurled mainly for two reasons: 1) they cling to the wall and mortar and do not slip when used for small stretches 2) they do not choke when bending We in Italy usually use a dielectric lubricant to thread the cables in the pipes, in any case during the insertion phase if you do two (one pulls and one pushes) the cables flow without problems, there are pipes like those shown in the video which are called cable ducts where there is a smooth internal layer and a knurled exterior but start from the 40mm section But remember that in Italy rigid cables were used until the 80s, in fact in some old houses they are still there, then soft cables were used and for that knurled pipes

It’s a fabulous area - stay tuned for when we return to this site later in the year.

Tanti saluti da un Grottagliese a Londra.

Bella compà, stappa 'na Raffo! :)

I lived in Latiano for 2.5 years as a teen due to my father's USA military career. About 60km from Alberobello. He would drive to Martina Franca for his job a few times each year. Such warm memories I have of southern Italy!

The next part of this project is now ready 👉ukposts.info/have/v-deo/gYOErW6te659xKs.html

they don't use tubings in the UK??? what kind of shitty system is that lol

Nothing at all stopping you using flexible conduit wiring system in a house in UK. Flat cables are just cheaper, faster and simpler to install. British homes tended to be constructed with accessible voids at ground floor, first floor and roof space, so conduits not really necessary.

Why would you need to rewire a house? Well, I guess maybe if you're Italian and you come butted up to the reality that a 3 kW electrical system is a joke in the modern era.

@@ardgeighw5174 house rewire in the UK is a common theme, mostly because UK tradesmen love re-do instead then fix. Regarding the 3kW in Italy, it's a limitation in entrance to the home, not of the home itself: most italian homes can do more with little to no adjustment.

​@@DavideAnastasia exactly, we dont need more usually. i have 6kW in my apartment but its because all my appliances are electric.

Se non fosse che quella è la teoria.. poi quasi ogni italiano mette mano/fa mettere mano all’impianto in maniera del tutto “raffazzonata”. Per la serie “tanto non devo vendere, non mi serve sia a norma di decreto regio” oppure “tanto non ci devo vivere io, l’inquilino non smonta di certo l’impianto per controllare. Fai affinché vada e non preoccuparti del resto”.

@@Cipollino93 certo, finché non succede un casino, magari un incendio o qualcuno si fa male, l'assicurazione (o addirittura i pompieri) fa peritare l'impianto e lo trova manomesso: risultato, l'assicurazione NON PAGA (e magari si rischia pure il gabbio)... certo, poi ognuno fa quel che crede, ma è come cambiarsi da soli le pastiglie dei freni: io preferisco farlo fare a chi lo fa (bene, ovviamente) di mestiere.

​@@Cipollino93 ... è vero, ... Ho visto cose inimmaginabili...! ... qualche volta ho persino trovato la fase col filo giallo verde, prese di potenza (lavatrice) col filo da 0.5, collegamenti col cavo marrone che entra in una tubazione, ed esce di un altro colore, ...perché è stato giuntato all'interno del tubo corrugato, ... ... mi è stato detto : "quello avevo"...!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

terra? che terra? chi l 'ha mai vista sta cosa hahahahha@@massimo63

Thanks - hope the renovation goes well.

So I found in France.

Same in The Netherlands. Only DIY people use them. At their cost, as they find out later when they need to run additional cables through them. There is flexible conduit with a smooth skin on the inside, that version is okay. But all in all I no longer want to use flexible conduit.

@@StCreed Amen to that bro, the only time I used flex I cut it to length and pulled the wires through before installing it above the (removable) ceiling.

@@apveening same here bro. Allways pre-pull the wires through the conduit.

Great info - thanks for sharing

Indeed, nowadays the "quota potenza" (power quote) which is a fix price that you have to pay to the distributor for the maximum power that you can absorb from the grid is lower than before and if you consume a certain amount of energy becomes irrelevant to the total price that you have to pay. I moved from 3kW to 4.5kW and I have to pay only 25€ more per year, which is priceless because now I can run appliances together (ex. Washing machine and dishwasher) or use both air conditioning motor at the same time, or charge the car way faster if needed during the day.

3 kW is not enough even for cooking! In Greece we used to have a minimum of monofase supply of ~ 6 kW but nowdays most of the new appartments get a 3fase supply of approx. 18 kW which is suitable or simultanuous use of Heat pump, cooking , laundry, lighting etc. The use of flex conduits is common of course but the common practice is to install cabling and flex together from the beginning and not to pul cables afterwards as it is not convenient due to sharp turns etc. In traditional buildings , we have similar constructions as the truli of Alberobelo, where we are obliged to put everything under the flooring there is no alternative. Nevertheless, is buildings with possibilities of false ceiling we avoid mixing cabling and plumbers piping. Cabling under the flooring is our last choice and not the best. The weakest point of our installations are the numerous junction boxes all over the house. In the past it was obliged for those boxes to be leveled at the plaster surface so to be able to see them and easy to open. Today we have too many boxes and also ...architects who would become sick with junction boxes all over the walls, so the boxes are dissapeared under some centimeter of plaster

@@pantelissiokos8139 Netherlands here. Jujst 3kW for an entire home would sound insane here. Every new home has 3 phase to the power distribution in the home (or capable of it if for some reason the outside is still old and has no 3 phase to the home) and I can do anything at the same time. Any new home also includes a special plug (which is just 2×1phase joined and never 3 phase just pulled through for some reason) called Perilex always installed in a so called "cooking group" on the distribution board. That alone can pull somewhere around 11kW (for electric stove with oven). Normally 230 volts at 16 amp per group, you may use 3500 watt per group. (Officially it is 220, but for various reasons in practice now 230, sometimes even 240). I think older homes or homes where the wiring to the home is older they can get up to 8kW (35A, but can also be 25 or 40) on 1 phase, I have 3×35A. If you want heavier stuff and have very high power usage (daily sauna, electric stove, heatpump, home battery, solar etc) you may need more and can run into limits so then you do have an issue with max draw and have to request heavier breakers, 3×40, 3×50 or even 3×80A, but this will come at your expense, may be turned down, and if you need a new meter you will pay for it in full. So there is a max power but you gotta try hard to get there. Pulling cabling after the fact is rare and not every home is built that way. All goes in the wall, or if not possible (like in my apartment) it goes in the added false ceiling, expressly _never_ under the floor.

@@pantelissiokos8139 we use gas for cooking and heating mostly

Great insight 👍

So like the equivalent of 25 amp service in the states at 120v here? This is crazy. I'm over here plotting how to upgrade from 200A (24,000watts) to 400A....

@@jdr03272 320A meter enclosure(double lugs) and (2)150A main panels, done.

Need power assist function from victron ESS? How do you get on with export of solar? I thought it was bad here when grid company only allowed 3.6kW from a 12.6kWp system, just increased it to 5kW. Customer is going to see how it goes when we finally get permission to fit ev charge point but may consider increasing batteries. It is only 12kWh while we wait to get 4th BYD LVS battery then see what data looks like to decide. What about charge points no 7.5kW units no 22kW?

For comparison, houses built in the 80's in China has around 6kw. Nowadays, it's typically 9.6kw. Private residential flats in Hong Kong typically has ~20kw.

Stay tuned for part 2

I think they really do have some good approaches.

@@efixx Come on I can't wait for the next video :p

On a mission

@@efixx Try Ukraine 😅

​​@@IAmThe_RA genuinely though the work the Ukrainian electrical network operators do to repair and rebuild substations, pylons etc is absolutely incredible. When you see what they deal with, I'll never complain again about UK electrical work again! There's been articles and videos on it that are well worth a watch.

Thanks 🙏

There are many places in Southern Europe that do not have the luxury of having several meters of moist soil for grounding so a ring system will provide you with the necessary earth ground one needs for safety. Another factor to consider is that if it is extremely a dry area that the electrical system is located it is wise to flood the grounding rod wells with water to maintain the ability to conduct to earth.

Ring electrodes are routinely installed for electricity supplies in the UK. It's what you get when you consult a specialist earthing contractor vs an electrician.

On the volcanic plateau in the North Island of New Zealand it is very difficult to get a good earth connection due to the pumice soils. They run buried earth conductors between power poles to get a better connection. This part of Italy is also volcanic and that may be the reason they do that.

​@@PaulG.xyep true! Conductivity test is done before deciding how to install grounding. If the ground is particularly insulating, these systems are used. Sometimes it is sufficient to expose and connecting to a rebar from the armoured concrete foundation!

We have to measure the loop impedance so it works as earth as well. Most of the time tough electricians just water the ground before testing😑

Later this year - stay tuned. Amazing the differences between countries with a harmonised standard.

@@efixx The various national wiring regs are based on the same harmonisation documents but with so many national alterations they're barely recognisable anymore. Add to that mix what I'd call local customs (materials and methods that are not required by any regs but strongly considered good practice) and you get some very different wiring systems. Examples for those "local customs" would be using capping for T&E in the UK (as far as I know not required but considered proper workmanship) or using conduit rather than cables directly in plaster walls in Austria where I live. Bringing up local isolation for appliances (e.g. cooker switches and fused connection units) in the UK also always makes for interesting discussions. Major differences between Italy and neighbouring Austria are those enormous Italian junction boxes, whereas in Austria you can only have one circuit per junction box, unless you've got a DIN rail with terminals, the Italian love for stranded building wire and the limited use of three-phase in Italian domestic properties. In Austria, most DNOs (responsible for the entire hardware side of supplying electricity, including metering and billing) no longer even offer single-phase supplies and the only one that does only offers them up to 6 kW at no cost advantage over 18 kW three-phase, except for only requiring three 10 mm2 cores instead of five (CPCs are always full-sized and insulated on the continent, size reduction is generally only permitted from 25 mm2 upwards and then only by one size, e.g. 4x25/16 or 4x35/25).

have you returned????@@efixx

“Other” countries? Really? This is standard everywhere. The entertaining thing would be to show what’s done in the “not other” countries

Thanks - stay tuned for part 2

Thanks for the info

I'd assume it's 600 mm from showers or baths, like in most European countries. The bathroom zones 0 (inside the shower basin/bath), 1 (directly above the bath/shower) and 2 (600 mm to either side of zones 0 and 1) are fairly universally accepted, zone 3 has been abandoned in all countries I know about.

yep, made in china.........

Ahahaha! Had to say you're right. But most of them are left empty so you can add more cables in the future if necessary.

Just to know, what appliances so you have in the barn that use all that power?

@@Ale-bj7nd The barn probably has a workshop space ,so the power set up assumes the use of power tools welders and machinery. Or they intend to grow dope

I had the same thought - my house has a 200A 240V supply (delivered as 2 x 120 ind a neutral in the weird US fashion ~48kVA), We have 9.5kW of Solar and a 24kW standby generator with an ATS. That's a pretty common setup where I live. The big loads are air conditioning, hot tub heater (I'm in California), 2 x dryers, electric oven etc. I can't begin to imagine living on 3kW, the hot tub heater alone is 4kW.

The barn includes a fully insulated workshop with a 4KW forced air heater and an assortment of power tools. The main portion of the barn will be used to store and work on two recreational vehicles, a 40’ converted motorcoach and a 28’ travel trailer. Both RVs have “50A” shore power connections. In the USA, this is a 240/120V 4-wire supply. I might add a heat pump for the shop and storeroom at some point.

EU ask us to reduce consuming for climate change and ucranian war, 6Kw will remain a dream for not rich people.

Use the vacuum cleaner hack

The trick is to measure out what length of run you need (I.e board to socket or between sockets etc) cut the conduit length you need, lay it out flat in a open space and run your snake down it, then put the cable/cables you want in the conduit in. Then after that install the conduit, this removes the issue of drawing cable in through bends and all the other issues with Flexi conduit when installed.

@@cal5566 Thats great too but i completely forgot about vaccum hack! i need to try it out

​@@maciejpieskasta493 And if you get problem with friction on long runs, you can get lub that is made for cable pulling.

The trick is to stretch the conduit slightly during tie down and make sure you tie it down to a solid wall with a solid material (I much prefer plaster to clips). This way the conduit won't flex and compress as you're pulling wires through it, and they'll just slide through...

Interesting- we are planning a similar video looking at the situation in the US

@@efixx Can't wait to see what you think of our electrical system!

In Germany it's the same. Mostly TN-C-S and some TT in rural areas, but you still need to have an supportive earth electrode. For example foundation earth electrode embedded into the concrete foundation of the house. In alternative a soil embedded ring earth electrode as shown here in the video.

Same in Poland as in Germany. Each building should have its own ground with a value less than 10 Ohms. Grounding in the foundation or ring around the building is recommended, and if there is no other option, driving the electrodes into the ground. In Poland, the most common type of network is TN-C-S, but in rural areas it is sometimes TT.

Not every utility pole, but usually at least 4 per mile with higher density residential/commercial/industrial areas getting 8 or more grounds per mile as it allows certain things on the pole to be closer together. Problem is tweakers like to steal the pole ground wires as they are usually 8AWG (8.37mm²) copper which is $$$$. t. utility distribution engineer

We’ll find out in part 2 when we return for the second fix

Only problem I've had with draw strings is they tend to twist around existing cables .

we use flexible nylon "fish lines": you push them into the conduit, attach the cables and pull from the receiving end until you see the cable. If you need more, you can pull more cables in one go. This way at the end of the process, only cables are in the conduit

In south Italy I don't think is required triple glazing. I live in the North and double glas is the standard. But there are some climate zones in which is mandatory a triple glas

They're saving time, and your money is not their problem.

So true. I had to pull optical fiber to my garage just to have basic 1 gigabit ethernet because there was only one pipe going to it, pretty small and already used for power (in Italy you can't put different voltage circuits in the same pipe unless you use double insulation cables, and double insulation cat5 is thick and flexible as a wooden stick). I broke the fiber two times before finally managing to pull it through in one piece.

Well, keeping different cable separate is just good practice. That's not the issue imho. Indeed I'll go one step further ad say italian rules and regulation on electrical circuits are actually generally sensible and well thought out. The problem aren't the rules, the problem are those doing the job and not being sensible nor slightly forward-looking to have the basic thought that more stuff might need added in the future 🤷‍♂. It shouldn't matter what and why, it's just the sensible thing to do.

Having anything from the USAs antiquated electrical system is not wise. They are so far behind they need to to update ASAP. The plugs are terrifying. British, French and German systems are far superior, especially the British fuse-in-plug G type plugs.

@@johnburns4017 You are full of yourself.

@@jdilksjr No. I have worked with both. The USA is way behind. The USA needs to catch up quickly, to superior and safer systems.

@@johnburns4017 what I find wrong with the "German" schuco outlets and plugs is the fact one does not know which part of the receptacle is phase or which is neutral. The American system we know which is which, small blade = phase, large blade = neutral. Ground is the longer of the prongs which makes first contact in the receptacle. There is no marking on the Euro German outlets as to which is phase. Electricians randomly pick a side which will be phase. As for ground, it appears to make contact simultaneously with the other contacts in the receptacle. The only plus side is that the contacts are recessed deep in the outlet. As for the British connectors, not much different from American receptacles, blades are exposed as they make contact with the receptacle contacts. The one item I appreciate is that the plugs are individually fused, thus offering greater protection to the appliance that is connected to the circuit. Back in the ‘70’s one could find fused plugs that had a fuse for both prongs however the plugs lacked a ground connector and were not keyed as to phase and neutral since both prongs were narrow allowing one to inset it wrong. This would be an issue since radio and TV manufacturers went to what is referred as a hot chassis design. This was a bit of a misnomer since the chassis was actually the neutral but could become hot if a non polarized plug or cord set was used on the appliance. Now as for unsafe or obsolete, it’s been in use for decades and the National Electrical Code is being constantly updated for the latest in safety systems. It is however up to the homeowner to update and comply with code. The Code is a basic guideline set up by the US Government. There are many States and municipalities the might have far more restrictive laws than what is stated in the NEC. In the city of Chicago, the code states that all wiring shall be run in metallic conduit to prevent issues of electrical faults causing fires within a structure. Conduit shall be bonded to the ground system of the structure as well as a discrete ground wire will be run within the same conduit to provide a ground to all outlets and fixtures. As for my use here in my home it is limited to small home appliances and power tools only since the rest of the ancillary equipment has been purchased here in the EU and runs on 220 volts. If anything the government owned distribution network has far more problems with antiquated and or tired second hand equipment that the politicians purchase from Germany. The network cannot handle the load that is placed on it since politicians have been pushing for more electric heat pumps and cooling systems for homes. Both wiring and transformers in the network are old and undersized for todays loads.

@@Subgunman _"The only plus side [Schuko] is that the contacts are recessed deep in the outlet."_ ▪The German schuko outlets and plugs are *inferior.* ▪You do not know which part of the receptacle is phase or which is neutral. ▪There is no marking on the Euro German outlets as to which is phase. ▪Electricians randomly pick a side which will be phase. ▪As for ground, it makes contact simultaneously with the other phase and neutral contacts in the receptacle. In British type G plugs, the ground make contact first and last to break contact. ▪The plugs are *not* individually fused. ▪Dirt accumulates in the Schuko recess. Housewives squirt in cleaner to clean them. Oooops. A negative point. ▪The prongs are flimsy. ▪British pins are insulated so fingers cannot touch phase and neutral. ▪You cannot touch the earth connector on a socket in a British plug unlike in a Schuko. ▪The British sockets are switched. ▪The British system is polarised, as is the French, unlike the German.

Agree 👌

Same in 🇬🇧 Uk

Same in Canada, I wanted to get some network cables from one room to another across a hallway in my condo, like 6 foot linear distance to cross. Doing anything in the walls would have required many holes and drywall rework and hiring a professional, so I cut a hole in the ceiling of the closets on either side of the hallway, installed a low voltage bracket brushed cable pass-through, and stuck some plenum rated networking cable up there. Inside the rooms themselves, any cable runs I have to do with just plastic trunking along the baseboards, but at least there's no wires crossing the hallway! When they built the place a little over 20 years ago, nobody made any thought about data networking. How I wish this place was fully wired with ethernet cable! Nope, you just get electrical, telephone, and coax for TV, nothing else and no provision for future expansion.

@@guspaz Yep. If you're lucky, the electrician hired to wire the house installed at least CAT5 for the telephone wires. In that case, you just swap out the RJ11 jack for an RJ45. My in-laws house was that way. But that's still just CAT5, so it's technically only rated for 10/100 and not gigabit. But in most cases, gigabit works just fine.

@@guspaz Yep, need to get through the floor to the basement to replace furnace signalling cable - still did not find a way. Don't want to cut the drywall ...

Great insight Tomas could be worse places to take a walk 😉

@@efixx Bundy would like it there - he used to be Mr Flexi-King!

16 A sounds little. How does one run even a stove? Or are they all gas? Houses in Finland typically are 3x25 A or 3x35 A. In Finland the main fuses are sealed. You need to ask permission to change them. Breakers are not allowed as with enough current they might fail and not break the circuit.

@@okaro6595 we have to turn on/off to manually share the power. We use steamers instead of electric hob most of the time and turn off aircon to cook. You can upgrade to 4.5kW or 6kW for a higher standing charge, but not worth it for us as a little used holiday home. If we lived there more of the year, we would have gas for cooking…l but electricity is easier for holidays…. 16A is fine for 3kW as you only max at 13A anyway

​@@okaro6595 usually we just get used to it and don't turn the stove on with the oven, or AC, etc... With solar it's a lot less of a problem as I can have 3kW in from the mains, 3kW from the batteries, and 5kW from the panels during the day. During the night I still have 6kW total which is fine for most things, it's almost never a problem. But it would be nice to have a 10+kW mains connection in the first place lol. Maybe someday the laws will get updated

You attach the wires to the guide and just pull, easier if someone helps from the other end by making sure it doesn't get tangled.

@@25566 Yes, I know how to do it, I'm an electrician in the US, but it's still a task to pull multiple wires through a small conduit, especially multiple times.

@@ML-jk3sz I agree I am electrician in Canada and on hard pulls wire lube is necessary .

@@daniellabbe3009 Correct.

Keep in mind that in Italy the electrical cables used are stranded and easier to pull than the solid ones (solid ones are not a standard from the 80s); moreover a well built system should have a lot of flexible conduit, like the one in the video, and only a few wires runs in each conduit (3/5 14awg wires in a 3/4inch conduit ), so it's very easy to pull the wires and lube is rarely used in a new installation.

Enjoy the flight home !

Here in italy 3phase is f..... expensive....

If the plastic conduit does not flatten of course.

@@johnburns4017 a valid point, I just like the idea of it so adaptable

​@@johnburns4017 that doesn't usually happen. Maybe one or two in the whole house due to damage during works.

You just try and add more cables to flexible conduit. I think you'll start to appreciate the disadvantages :)

@@johnburns4017 I never seen one of those corrugated tubes flatten, that's why they're corrugated

Great info 👍

Meters are required to be accessible from the outside of the property for two reasons: one is for safety, for example if there's a fire the firefighters can easily disconnect the electricity supply. The second reason is that the meters are the electricity company's property, and if they need to do maintenance on them they should be accessible without trying to get permit from the owner to enter the house. Many properties were made before this law so it's very common to have the meters inside the house.

They use the same system in all types of wall- lots more insulation being used so more dry lining systems are in place.

Fantastic place

Plenty of room? You can't play video games when you have AC running and your wife is cooking. 3 KW is not enough, not even if you are single. I used to live in Italy, now I am in the UK and it is another world. Never a disconnection, you run what you want. The Italian electric grid sucks.

@@biomorphic yeah, electricity costs around 0,5€/Kw, so usually you don't want to consume it 🤣. As I said, using natural gas for heating and cooking, you usually end up whit a 200-400w mean consumption. Also consider that all the lights we use are led ones, so If I sum them all up I get like 120w total for the entire house. I don't know what video games you play, but if that causes problems, you bought a space heater, not a console/pc🤣. Anyway, last week I've cabled a new house that's going to have a 6Kw contract. Just because they want to install an induction stove in the kitchen

Indeed my PC was almost enough to heat my small studio in London. It probably sucks near 600 watt at peak. And today, if you run a 4090, probably you need 750. I am aware about Italy, I used to live there most of my life. I can assure it is much better having all the power you need. In the UK I don't have to worry about what I run. In Italy I spent 700 Euro on a UPS due to frequent disconnections and blackouts. Here you don't need one. @@cmh-re

I confirm that, some people left the whole house unpainted to avoid taxes.. I think that regulations has been updated to avoid this problem

I've heard about this but it's not common, or at least I never seen one non-finished house in north italy

In Italia puoi optare per, 3,3kW oppure 4,5kW oppure 6kW. In alcuni casi puoi chiedere di avere anche 10kW. Sempre tutti in monofase

Nope, it was common in the south Italy to leave the last floor unfinished to not pay taxes. No one in the north did it😂😂

@@pabloescobar_8896 I think also in some parts of the south

Send us some photos in (no names revealed ) - also happy to visit 😉

Shocked is last thing you want or need.! Old saying is " works dun it ? "

At least Saudi Arabia standardised on the British G type plug. That would save lives.

In Germany we used conduit in the past (flexible as well as smooth rigid) and we indeed use solid core wire. Unfortunately, we are only allowed to run a single breaker (circuit) in in one conduit, so for space and cost reasons they started to use simple double insulated wires (NYM, individual singls cores with an additional common sheathing) wiring. These days we have NYM directly concreted into the wall and there is no way to add even a single switched wire afterwards since there is no conduit in walls (except in concrete where it is mandatory). I still do it as shown in the pictures - one has to be careful to make the corners smooth enough though.

Sounds like a mission 👍

The last three properties I've specced all have RCBOs, and I would not have anything else for the very reason you mention. Split RCDs are a nightmare in many ways. Cumulative leaks over multiple circuits causing nuisance trips, poor fault isolation and identification, and half the power disappearing with a trip. I've only ever had an RCBO trip when there was a genuine problem. They should be mandatory in my view. Another couple of hundred pound on an installation that costs several thousand in labour. It's money well spent.

@@TheEulerID What's your thoughts on whether AFDDs should be made mandatory as well (I believe they do "MCB sized" combined AFDDs & RCBOs)?

Doesn't anyone in Italy have a backyard shed and run power tools and welders for hobby/handyman reasons? Even a modern inverter welder can draw 2-3kw and that would be a problem if anyone else in the household has any substantial appliance running.

@@user-fs3dg1po2z If needed, you can ask for an upgrade/downgrade (you are billed for this operation, of course): it usually requires 5 working days. Tipically, with the last meters, the breaker trips if the power required is continuously over the maximum (for example, for a 3kW the maximum power available is 3.3 kW) for more than 3 hours.

Cheers Mark - I found this to be very similar

all north europe have biggest better safety all elektric system than south europe or UK or USA, law have good inspection have true and obligatory and if not has inspect this house not newer caan use. spain and italy has i see have worst not safety elektric ewery houses, horriple has build. super dangerous many.

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In some German regions the standard supply is 43 kW, even for a studio apartment. Now that's insane!

@@Ragnar8504 Wow! Really insane. I wouldn't be surprised of people dedicating to indoor greenhouses ... 🙂

I think average property sizes in the US are considerably larger.

@@efixx Besides needing air conditioning for a good chunk of the year in much of the country, electric ranges (usually a dedicated 50A 240V circuit) and water heaters (often 4.5kW or 5.5kW for storage tank and up to 36kW for tankless instant) are common. Our heat pumps also have resistive backup heat packs of anywhere from 5kW to 25kW. It's also common for houses to have water wells with submersible pumps as the water supply.

im not glad has lot houses burn down at USA.

@@randacnam7321 also in italy

Above 6kW you can.