Bromo, this is too funny 😂 eric asks you if you know a SUPER obscure but meaningful song that any resonable, modern, young person would NOT know 😂. No, -Eric begins to play the song with, dare I say, style?- 🤣

All religion is made-made and 100% false. Morality and ethics don't need false Gods, only mutual agreement among people is required.

New Covenant Whole Gospel: Can you honestly answer the first three questions below? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the UKposts videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

Chris, I live in Austin and would love to sit down and walk you through the meditative practices that turn mindfulness and turn it into prayer

@ChrisWillx, listen, don’t listen to @Ianidas300. I’m not into meditation because it’s for people who want to j/o in public but… Dudes “practices” aren’t going to include, speak out-loud when playing to anyone who isn’t Big G. God is the only entity you could expect to be able to hear your thoughts. I’m not sure even G can hear your thoughts, tho. If you want praying to “work” you probably need to SPEAK your hopes, desires, and gratitude.

This comment needs to be heard

I agree

As Eric said, great music made by pausing or emphasis, so goes great conversation.

I think they're deliberately edited in for pacing.

I get it, but there is also a pause button

Wow, I can't imagine your suffering. I watch my boys grow in faith (and science, and all of it), and I know the world sucks, and it eats us alive, and it worries me. I also know that the Creator intended a much better way. A walk together in the garden in the cool of the day.

At about 3:20 in the afternoon of Friday the 22nd of October in 2010, I was standing in the road beside a burning car that contained my wife and son. It was only my faith in God and an afterlife that kept me together, in that moment and the weeks after.

My oldest son had a heart/lung transplant when he was 17. He lived almost 5 years. When he died, I cried out to God and said, "I have buried my son! I HAVE BURIED MY SON!" I couldn't wrap my mind around it. The Lord spoke to me so gently and said, " I know. I buried Mine too." I thought about that for a few minutes, and then I said (because I needed the God of the universe to know just how much I was suffering!) "But You got Yours back three days later....." And again, with the greatest of compassion, He spoke to my heart and said, "Yes. And that's why I got yours immediately." I had been a Christian for many years at that point, but that was the moment the Gospel jumped to life for me. He died, so Jordan didn't have too. He simply went from life on earth to life in heaven. It's been 20 years and I still miss him every single day. But I know I will see him again and that he will be the one who greets me when it's my turn to cross over.

It's heartbreaking when your child dies, but it's much worse if you believe death is the end, and you'll never see her/him again.

​@@catherinezoller4451to reunions 😥🕊️ stay strong and keep up the race.

"If God had a face what would it look like? And would you want to see If seeing meant that you would have to believe?". - Joan Osbourne.

How do you lose atheism?

I don’t get why it’s powerful. I have no reason to believe in a God or a religion, therefore I don’t. If I changed my mind and started believing in a God or in a religion, I’d no longer be a non-believer. Why would I be worried about changing my mind?

@@weddingvideographerireland its powerful because belief is not absolute. That's the point Weinstein is trying to make. Even in his quasi atheism, which he's firm on, he accepts that he could be wrong and there could possibly be a god which he doesn't understand. Former Atheist, now agnostic, I realized years ago how foolish it is to be so certain there is no god. We dont yet know enough about the universe to be that resolute. In the west, we try to understand our reality through science and empirical means but even with our advances, there are things weve yet to understand, take 'spooky actions at a distance' in physics for example. What is the mechanism that allows 2 atoms to be entangled?

Can someone please explain the profundity of this?

Well said my friend.

Faith is weakness of the mind.

@@Apistevist Spoken like a true Reddit tier atheist

"Weakness of the mind;" that is so apt. As if your mind, yours individually, must be strong and perfect and right, always. The men in the video (atheists) are questioning the value of all that came before. Is their humility not a strength? Be honest.

How do you define “faith”?

Great choice of a word. Mesmerizing. Attributed to Franz Mesmer. Later used to describe hypnosis. The world has been hypnotized by so-called Religion, and now it's as lost as it was on the first day. Fumbling in the dark AND claiming 'we know' what we're doing. No, we don't.

"if you want to be religious you have to leave that out of science" It all depends how you see the whole of reality. it also depends on how see each domain. Carpentry is a domain, yet I wouldn't go "heavy" with religion while engage with it. Ponder the significance of: The earth is the Lord's and the *fullness* thereof of. "Fullness" means more than material.

I've never thought there was any conflict between science and religion. There is, of course, between false religion and science, or religion and false or misunderstood science, or the caricature of religion that so many make of it. I don't think God created things through some kind of woo woo magic, but by understanding the laws of physics, having mastered them completely as if He had created them Himself. Or perhaps He created the laws of not only this Universe, but others. For anything to exist, there must be some stable principles upon which it exists. I see God, angels, etc. as the most advanced civilization in existence, having mastered the laws & principles of matter, time and energy to the ultimate degree, or a degree that we can't yet imagine. If we are ever able to continually progress in our knowledge of science without destroying ourselves, we would eventually get to a point where no more progress was possible without mastering perfect morality and human relationships. And once we master those, we can progress on, to higher dimensional realities, the secrets of time, and traveling infinite distances in an instant. If there is anything that holds science back, it's the assumptions that [1] physical matter at our vibration level is the only thing "real", and [2] that future knowledge & discoveries must be consistent with what we "know" now.

The character of Jesus wasn't the first to preach basic morality and certainly doesn't have a monopoly on it.

They have the appearance of godliness but lack the power of it

Practising "Love Thy Neighbour" or the Buddha's "8 fold path" or the Sanatan "Vasudeva Kutumbakam" will make joy arise in one' s life. Seekers are inevitably going to discover contentment.....that is the highest point of evolution?? But then again... maybe not😅

Songs and art referencing old books with mostly made up stuff isn't a great argument to just be religious. The very religious following those books would completely reject the even older stories and traditions some of those old stories have been recycled from. Egyptian, Sumerian, Babylonian, etc. etc. ideas of god(s), afterlife, etc...the Abrahamic religious folks would quickly dismiss and openly mock as 'myths'...and their (sometimes similar) Abrahamic stories as real truth... it's all the same category of made up stuff by people thousands of years ago to a rational person. Trace it back enough, and you're at some Neanderthal or other person from 30k years ago or more suggested the sun is alive and has emotions...and it went forward from there.

When I finally read the bible with an intention to learn, rather than confirm what I thought I already knew, I was astounded at what I found there. I do indeed find myself known in ways and parts I myself had been ignorant of. And as I have listened and learned, I've changed, and my relationships with those around me have changed, and so has my relationship with this beautiful world of ours. Still feel like I'm just beginning. There is such Joy to be had in a walk with God - I'm so glad I chose that path when he graciously laid 2 happy successful paths in front of me - one with Him, one without. No coercion, just a simple question - "Do you want to do this with me or by yourself?" The way with Him glittered ahead with the promise of so many moments of joyful encounter and discovery - as if the sun was catching diamonds scattered on the ground. I've never regretted that choice. God himself is the reward - a Joy that cannot be matched.

It certainly is interested in you. You join or bad things happen. You stay in line or bad things happen... that's been the norm for thousands of years...and is now still in dozens of countries. When states finally took away their ability to physically punish in the west, they still would ostracize people from communities, publicly shame people who didn't donate enough, demand tax payers support their structures and festivals, etc. They are VERY interested in anyone they can do something to or take something from.

There’s a difference between secular prayer and religious prayer. Prayer is scientifically proven to have beneficial effects on mental health, with or without a belief in God.

"Religion is interested in you whether you give a shit or not." True, because without 'fresh converts', religion dies.

You're indoctrinated more like

Im a Buddhist but I do believe we still have common ground? We are both believing in Love and Compassion and about bringing Spiritual awareness to this world! God Bless you!

It is :)

I've been meditating for 2 years and I'm better for it.

Amen to that! It's a discipline I struggle with, but each time I fall away I see that life is less sweet, and so I come back and find that He has been there all the time, letting me do my own thing, but meeting me with such kindness and wisdom when I finally come back.

Super obscure pull, wonderfully executed.

BKs own, Sir Guy?

Same It’s the best Is it honestly that makes us love the information?

My Mom was raised Catholic and went to Catholic school up till 9th grade. Until recently i had never thought about the fact that with her age she probably saw the change. Mass was in Latin until she was something like 10 years old.

I attend an FSSP parish. We have 3 packed Sunday Masses every week as well as daily mass and confession with Exposition and Adoration every week. Our priests are young, as are the parishioners. Women are veiled and modest in dress. Large families are the norm. We are the future of the Catholic Church.

I’m one of those old people. You don’t need to “know” Latin to “get” the Latin Mass. There are books and there’s even an app (Laudate) that has the Latin/English on the same page so you can follow along. As a child, the Latin was taken away, churches were basically sacked, music dumbed down, etc. I attend a diocesan Traditional Latin Mass in east Tennessee.

There are a strong move in that direction here in Brazil too, especialy in the west part of the south region.

Chris also acts like he does not know what happened during "Vatican II."

My life got better once i become an atheist

People do know what it’s like to watch someone massively overgeneralize. They also know what it’s like to watch an entire society be led astray by their beliefs.

Have fair rules. We have surveillance cameras and forensics now. Just tell people they actually can and will be punished by other people if they go against the rules. No omnipresent being or afterlife made up is necessary now. Plenty of other societies had religion, too. Societies you wouldn't want to live in. It's made up as people go along, and goes off the rails terribly once in a while. And remember what has happened when Abrahamic religions actually had direct power in Europe and elsewhere...like heretic burnings because 'they don't kneel at church, and we do' types of differences between groups.

it's possible to have faith without believing in the existence of the supernatural

I definitely see more people realising some of the less obvious things that were got rid of when people decided they could do without faith - community, inter-generational contact, service, fellowship, shared worship, communal prayer, neighbourliness - we all do these things in part but without a compelling and uniting story and shared experience it become something a minority engages in when they feel like it, and it starts to get too much for the few to carry... Not many yet connect the issues in society with their own decisions - I think most are still living off the inheritance of their faithful forebears without realising that inheritance is dwindling fast. Just because everyone did a really poor job of following the teachings of Jesus for 2000 years, doesn't mean that a world where people have stopped trying looks any better...

Good point about the comfortable silence. A sign of a truly open and exploratory conversation.

Songs and art referencing old books with mostly made up stuff isn't a great argument to just be religious. The very religious following those books would completely reject the even older stories and traditions some of those old stories have been recycled from. Egyptian, Sumerian, Babylonian, etc. etc. ideas of god(s), afterlife, etc...the Abrahamic religious folks would quickly dismiss and openly mock as 'myths'...and their (sometimes similar) Abrahamic stories as real truth... it's all the same category of made up stuff by people thousands of years ago to a rational person. Trace it back enough, and you're at some Neanderthal or other person from 30k years ago or more suggested the sun is alive and has emotions...and it went forward from there.

The podcast series The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God features some of his interviews. Highly recommended series.

Can you share one insight from “Dominion”?

@@mackprime6975 That Christianity was the best thing that ever happened to the world and that just about all of our values we hold dear derive from it.

Tom Holland and Justin Brierrley are the best when it comes to tracking the rediscovery of God.

It's next on my reading list.

A cynic might say it’s a good time to start a church, temple or some other religious structure(concrete and abstract). We are vulnerable creatures when we are scared. 💸

It's a big mistake to think that we automatically understand someone else's words or explanations. The meaning that person has for the words they use, does not travel with the words to the person they're talking to. When we hear someone's words, we organize them, and extract what they mean to US. In most cases we don't quite hear what the other person is saying unless it's mundane, or cliche'. I don't remember ever being able to match my meaning by finding the right words, for anything beyond the mundane and cliche'. I always have to settle for words that can only give a clunky and vague sense of what I'm trying to say. And you can't communicate an experience the other person never had.

Powerful in what way?

Meditation is thousands of years older than Christianity bro

I think you meant to say Post-modern

Define powerful. It actually accomplishes nothing tangible.

@@andrewfrank7222 Is "tangible" the limit of legitimacy?

The truly open mind honestly and sincerely considers ideas that don't align with its own views. This is how humans grow and evolve, not only in knowledge but also in philosophy and in character. The alternative is to latch onto an idea, carve it in stone, and place it on a pedestal where, now, the adherent mindlessly chants their favorite hymns and prayers at anything that dares to disagree with that dogma. This is the context in which I appreciate Eric saying to Chris, *"IF* you're going to be an *honest* atheist..." Because to be anything less is to be dishonest, intellectually speaking.

Try typing was Vatican II A mistake into UKposts and you’ll see thousands of hours of videos about the topic. And yes it was.

We are in a cultural shift right now where millennials like me are returning to pre Vatican 2 Latin mass and it’s changing our lives. I just can’t understand why the pope is locking us out.

What is so surprising about that? An atheist Jew has every right to express his opinion on any subject he wants to say something about. Evidently Eric is well read enough to have an opinion about a lot of subjects, this being just one of them. Good for him!

@@r.mucklin1703 I think he’s just making the point it’s not typical for anyone outside the church to know about these things much less to care. Atheists in particular.

Bro why simp so fucking hard

@@michealjaymurphy They are taught to do this...... Don't get him started on Jesus.... A fictional character... At least Eric is a real human.

Sorry no, this guy and is brand of narcissism is hard to stomach, he's kinda insufferable. I remember when he and Brett first popped up on the scene and they went through a process of getting to terms with their newfound celebrity. Eric would try to dominate his younger brother while the pair are sitting in front of the camera, and in embarrassing fashion, it was quite telling. Smart in some ways, underdeveloped and t. insecure in others. If you couldn't tell btw, Chris is putting up with him here, just doing so politely.

Have you listened to orthodox Christian music on UKposts? Also beautiful

Very nicely written comment :)

Feeling are not facts.

wow

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It's really hard to take.

I keep thinking I lost internet connection.

Those pauses are computational, he actually thinks about what he's saying before he says it.

I used to believe and pray. I stopped believing, so I stopped praying.

@@jaredprince4772 And I feel so very sorry for you. You obviously believed only superficially, and that isn't what it's all about.

@@r.mucklin1703 You can't possibly know what or how deeply I believed. You're presuming it based on you preconceived notions. To state that you feel sorry for someone that is not asking for your sympathy is an insult. There is necessarily superficiality in every belief system that explains its parts as mysteries. Calling them mysteries gives the appearance of depth while providing no depth at all.

@@r.mucklin1703 My guy we call this type of reasoning a 'no true scotsman' fallacy. No need to be so dismissive. Here's a thought experiment: What about Christian doctrines that like Calvanism, i.e. once you're saved then you're always saved? Are they not genuine believers either? Instead of being dismissive why not seek to understand their point of view?

@@jaredprince4772 No apology and no sympathy from me. You can say anything you wish, but if it's said in public I can also say how I feel about what you said.

He's not bad. False humility is a way to get a compliment or, at the very least, surprise people expecting total musical incompetence.

he's pretty good on guitar

Just wondering. Since you love it, are you doing the same thing in the opposite direction?

How aboht the uther way around. Seems most religious people don't tolerate the idea they may be mistaken.

Jase, what do you think “Take the log out of your own eye and then you will see clearly to see what is in your brother’s” is all about? The Christian faith, if it is anything, is a continual exercise in self-examination and renewal into the removal of unjustifiable biases. You should try it.

@@jase123111 I think you'll find that in today's world there are a great many people who won't tolerate that idea either... and they don't have any faith. Perhaps, it's not as simple as saying that a particular category of people have the cognitive bias / dissonance, rather that humans have that tendency and it can show up where you least expect it - even in some parts of the scientific community (Heresy, I know).

oh but the divine is not restricted to mere christian interpretations.

The song is All Along the Watchtower. Made famous to the public at large by Hendrix, but yes, penned by Dylan.

@@xEJCBxYour welcome

@xEJCBx it's a cover of the Bob Dylan recording from 1967, John Wesley Harding is the name of the record.

I think of Eric as encyclopediac in his approach to music. His discussion of religiosity in music falls short when he invokes Hendrix. Surely he knows that Dylan is the author of AATW, and Dylan's lyrics are rife with spiritual meaning, making Eric's point not so revelatory.

@@TheGalxz and that bob certainly didn’t believe in anything other than writing great songs, let alone Christianity.

Those experiences are God reminding you that he is real…. Calling you back to a relationship with him.

@@matthewmiddletn9856 I have a relationship with God, just not the Christian one.

@@matthewmiddletn9856that’s just confirmation bias. There’s no evidence of this at all. You believe in God so anything that happens, you just assert it is God with no backing. We don’t know it certainly wasn’t God but it seems very unlikely

@@danielcooper3868 that’s called faith.

@@matthewmiddletn9856 yes, and faith sometimes can be very silly. Have faith in your partner instead of

“by whatever name you choose to call it” spirituality is secularism.

" Divine Union is possible through self effort and no longer need be tied or limited to theological beliefs or a cosmic dictator. " Lahiri Mahasaya

@@CaptainPhilosophicalNew Age mumbo jumbo. It’s not really a new concept but an old one. Ignorance of A God who had finally made himself known in the form of one named Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

@@cdeep4548 lol. Lahiri wasn't new age. You're funny. Your opinion doesn't match my experience. “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do." Jesus Stop selling yourself short. Do the work and you too can be just as great or greater!

@@CaptainPhilosophical Hinduism, Buddhism, etc etc is adopted and and adapted into New Age whether you like to believe it or not. This is what I find so interesting about people who don’t know Jesus. Contextually out of touch with what scripture is a common sign. And yes we have a completely different experience, I will agree with you on that one.

Yeah, it's ironic that since I left the faith after being in it for over 4 decades - my appreciation for music, art and the wonders of the universe have only increased. I get that religion can make you feel good in the face of an intimidating existence - but it's not the only way (or even the best way).

I'll make sure to tell the lads at the pub you have said so.

Even the phrase "Judge not" (which is a fragment of a more complete dynamic) holds weight. It came from the mouth of Jesus.

It IS the best argument because it's the foundation to how we function. Take away that foundation, and you'll have humanity revert to a dog eat dog mentality. We live in a mental/spiritual/phycological framework that constricts our baser instincts for a higher good. "None of which speak to the truth of religion, and none of those things cannot be found outside of religion." ? Secularism is a religion, that borrowed off values that came from "religion", while touting itself as being non-religious and "neutral".

I think the argument is "Religion is functional". Going to the music example, its not that its simply useful. This person had a range of similar views that were fully accessible.

More like the exact opposite. The decline in religion is correlated with the rise in society. Religion drags us backwards into darkness and ignorance.

It's a replacement of religion, not loss

God bless you

How did you lose your faith and what is making you reconsider?

I see no evidence anywhere in science that even hints that such a high ordered system such as a human being can just come into existence. The real myth is that millions of consecutive "accidents" formed the most advanced technology in the known universe, ie the human being, with no intelligent guidance. Creation is the evidence of a Creator if one is honest about what we are actually observing.

Postmodernism is pseudo-philosophy and the worst thing to happen to the field.

Post-modernism is a nihilistic death cult.

Sounds a lot like Wokeism, but without the woke grand narrative.

And it demolishes everything it touches

Pretty bad take. What about death of god theologians? Vattimo, Marc C Taylor or hell, Nietzsche himself? Sometimes the only way is through

Indeed. I think he's one of the greatest propagandists of today.

Batshit crazy is them being blissfully ignorant of the world, and thinking that the things he talks about ''crazy''

No. It’s the latter.

If some people think that being cynical and arrogant makes them appear intelligent, that's ok. People who actually are intelligent have no problem spotting them.

Chris, they just had their last Latin mass at the cathedral in downtown Austin. I’m so sorry you missed it. It’s no longer allowed😢it’s called the Triditen mass

Yea often happens with podcast clips, cause the question asked can sometimes lead to a totally different discussion. Not sure if a lot of them care the questions not answered though.

That is fascinating! I have learned something new from you again. I just looked up more details about the condition. This led me to try to imagine hearing music without feeling it. I guess it would be like watching a movie without a soundtrack. While it is a deficit in one way, it is an asset in another. One is much less able to be propagandised and far more able to see fact from fiction when emotion is removed from music. Without John Williams's musical score, Star Wars really isn't that good. Thank you for broadening my knowledge even more, friend. 👍🏻👍🏻

Time to try some psychadelics? I suspect they *may* open that up for you? Worthy a try!

@@prycelessly No problem! I guess it's kind of like watching a movie without a soundtrack. I can still hear the soundtrack, it just doesn't affect my emotional experience of the scene. I think it's more like hearing traffic noise instead of music, like it's there but it doesn't affect anything. I didn't realize music is used in propaganda, that's interesting!

@@MMAneuver That might actually be a good idea! I don't like the idea of doing drugs, but that might be worth a try some day!

@ZyroZoro Music has been used as a tool to propagandise to evoke emotional responses to help sell ideas throughout history in many capacities, from selling people on fighting wars to buying sneakers. Here's an article if you want to read more about it: (I tried posting the link to it, but it would not post) Propaganda with feeling - music as an instrument of social purpose Scientists study the emotions triggered by music through the ages

Lmao only sane person in this comment section 👍. People that believe are somehow really caught up in proving their own texts as true opposed to other texts. Even though some are older than theirs 😂

The texts are divisive. Each has its own people preferred above all others. They have communities where others not of them are excluded and unwelcome.

To me, thats the best way I see it. We have an entire system of beliefs and interactions all set, and all ready to go. Its a common code book of rules for a community or group we all draw on all the time. It also saves time that we don't have to start from square 1 every time we talk. Look at the polar opposite - pronoun people. You can't guess what their reactions or pronouns are this day or the next. There's no stability and life is already unstable.

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That sounds like the opening of Dante's Inferno!

What's reality in your book?

A significant number of moderns believe that 'science' has disproved the relevance of scripture and the existence of god.

This feels like a man in a white van telling kids there’s candy on the inside… You have to have something make sense. Blind following is seen as stupid in everything but religion. For good reason too

@@danielcooper3868 I recently began reading the bible. Mostly out of curiosity. I hadn't read it since my childhood, decades ago. It occurred to me the other day that throughout my atheistic adulthood I'd made condescending remarks about religion, like you just did, without actually knowing much about the actual religion(s) I criticized. Particularly without having read the texts that are the basis for said religion. So where did my anti-religion convictions come from? The people around me, of course. I was part of the herd. It's easy to dismiss things when you know little to nothing about them, so why not? Quite a few things brought me back around to Christianity. My experiences living overseas in the third world. Comparative analysis of cultures (those with Christianity vs. those without, ground Tom Holland covered in his book Dominion). Also studies by scientists of NDE's, providing a mountain of evidence consciousness survives death. A good starting point for that subject, by the way, is Tom Shroder's book Old Souls. Excellent read. So anyway, all this forced me to see that the atheistic point of view chiefly boils down to attitude. A fixed attitude will not reconcile itself to reality. Regarding religion, particularly Christianity, someone made a good insight, a podcaster whose name I'm forgetting now (Carrie something, maybe), while on Zuby's podcast a while back. She admitted a trajectory like I'd had. Went to college, got brainwashed, spent years as a progressive zealot, condemned Christianity, etc. For various reasons she managed to come out of it. (As did I, though for different reasons). Anyway, she too saw the hypocrisy and shortsightedness of atheists, all of whom are ready to throw the baby out with the bathwater. I'm paraphrasing, but her sentiment was that you've got thousands of years of wisdom, poetry, stories, and life lessons collected in one book, and yet these critics think they're better than that, think they don't need it, think there's nothing there to offer. Again, that's easy when you haven't studied the material. Makes you realize their dismissiveness is some very powerful arrogance. Not to mention very powerful closed-mindedness. Every progressive and every atheist I speak with shows the same mindset. All conviction and no knowledge. In any case, you do whatever you think is right, whatever your heart tells you.

Read about the Pharisees and you'll understand why. Modern Christianity is filled with self righteous hypocrites, egos ballooned to infinity.

I would say it’s both. I pray I don’t have my local one yanked away. We haven’t had a bishop since Trad Cust.

The Catholic mass itself is supposed to be a soul thing, not "school for Catholics". If TLM furthers that then more power.

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Only to a narcissist. Christianity isn't about being saved in death, but the enlightening of being saved in life, not to be better than others, but to be better than we would otherwise be.

⁠@@honestlyforreal6304Christianity is based on Judaism. Judaism is roughly 3,000-3,200 years old. I’m sure your ancestors at that time were somewhere in central Europe. Where do you think they went when they died?

No. It is the result of bad explanations and ideas formed in an attempt to understand the world we live in.

That's exactly what Oswald Spengler said civilization is.

@Philognosis1 That sounds like someone expressing ignorance, while attempting to express wisdom in something they haven't bothered to learn themselves

God is supposed to be omnipotent and omnipresent. Why then, would someone need to get on a certain “frequency” to communicate?

@@colinb8332 Think of it as raising kids. If you gave your children everything they needed to be great, yet they choose to consume negativity, would you waste your time trying to baby them to do better? He’s not a genie in a bottle. And isn’t he also fighting evil? It’s kind of selfish to expect him to make the world a better place when it’s literally OUR job since we’re the ones in the actual “experiment”.

@@colinb8332 I think the omnipresent/omnipotent is misunderstood. He could bless you everyday but that doesn’t mean you won’t mess it up and be right where you started. Honestly, it would be no point of living if God is just supposed to step in and fix everything.

Lol

My perspective is that the bible was written by humans. Humans make mistakes. Humans CAN'T know what God wants. How are humans going to tell humans how to worship God when there's no possible way for humans to know God's plan?

If you keep on meditating you'll stop being a "secular" Buddhist.

@@StimParavane 😁I hear you! I've been sitting for 25 years...perhaps I hold a different view of secularism.

Placebos work

@@mndflctznThere may be no way to tell if prayer is a placebo or real because if someone prays to God for a strengthened spirit ether way that person’s neurology will change and since we wouldn’t be able to tell the difference because ether God invisibly strengthen’s their spirit thus they experience a neurological change or they have a placebo effect and then have a neurological change.

There's a lot more than 4 layers, but yes pshat is just one of them. It's not a bad thing! But there's a lot else too.

@@urbanarmory There is more than PaRDeS? Do you mean on a personal level?

@@phillipadams4691 depends on who you go to and how you slice it. For example, chassidus also contains the "sod of sod", in Zohar, as another level. PaRDeS is the best starting point, but especially when you start getting into mysticism it continues to expand.

@@urbanarmory I'm not Jewish but I am fascinated by the religion and culture. I have studied some of the mysticism and I was blown away by what I got from it. I rarely talk with anyone who has a decent grasp on Kabbala and Etz Chaim. I recommend videos from Rabbi Akiva Tatz, he is brilliant.

Fundamentally untrue. A problem with most languages, also English.

Faith seems to me in fact a very extreme form of arrogance and hubris, you just assume that what you believe must be true "because.", regardless of actual evidence for it.

are you asking me to humiliate you for believing in fantasy-nonsense as a grown adult? Blindly believing a book with talking trees, talking animals, and mythical global flooding?

there are no atheists. there are ppl who refuse to acknowledge the presence of The Consciousness. no more, no less. there isnt a problem with that refusal, it is just a limited perception of reality. to each its own.

@@pmnfernando I won't lie, your response confuses me slightly. By "the Consciousness", do you mean God? If so, surely it is appropriate to call those who don't believe in him atheists?

yes, i meant God. i refrain from using the word because it has become such a loaded one. i didnt say it is not appropriated to call atheists to those who dont believe in God. I simply stated that, in reality, there is no such thing as atheists. There are only people who refuse to accept its existence. OTOH - and maybe i will further complicate things here - i will say: people only need to believe in things they havent fully Realized. hence why i dont "need" to believe in God. why? because i know it to be real. @@redeemed_sigma

Not just “ the Bible…”It really a shame - a tragedy really, nearly everyone presumes Judaism as a whole, The Original Testament, It’s Original Holy Language - another rabbit hole of connections, Judaism’s other holy scriptures : Talmud, mysticism, 3500 years of intense history and scholarship , wisdom is flyover country.

One person's mass psychosis is another person's normalcy What's the difference between a mass psychosis and a cult. Or religion?