Oh god this is perfect

Great idea

He doesn't have tegrity

​@@MenverManOr maybe he has a little too much tegrity right before the games.

@@MenverMan He doesn't have tegrity, but you must "Respect his authority"!

The only good ump I know that did great was Pat Hoberg from the World Series Perfect Game 100% Balls/Strikes correctly called

Exactly. Amazing umps should be ghosts to the avg fan. Although I did like them releasing the perfect game by an umpire Pat Hoberg. And he did it in the World Series!

Absolutely right on. Ron Luciano and Cowboy Joe West stopped being umpires and inserted themselves into the game, IMHO to the detriment of the game. We fans are not there to watch the umps/refs perform. We are there to see the game played by the players. The umps/refs are there to ensure the rules are followed and the rules are equally enforced. When fans know the umpires by name, the ump has done something to distract from the game and call attention to himself. That hurts the game.

Actually that's not true. John McSherry, Dutch Reinhardt, Emmitt Ashford and Bruce Fromming were highly respected and names well known by players, broadcasters and fans alike. And Hernandez has done nothing to change people's opinion of him.

Not always

You're not wrong. He's going to continue being trash until he retires. Which I think is another 3 decades. He's not that old and the umpire association has his back for some weird reason

I'm with you. It has to be on purpose at this point. He's doing this to become "infamous" or he is doing it to spite the league over his perceived slights towards him from the MLB.

I agree with Jeff Passan that the automated ball/strike system is needed in MLB, whether automatic completely, or challenge-based. However, that is NOT the answer to the Angel Hernandez problem. The answer to deal with someone who has consistently demonstrated over several years that he is bad at his job, it that you fire him and do not allow him to perform poorly at the job anymore. It's beyond a joke at this point. Any of the other 7 billion people in the world, having demonstrated that they're this bad at their job, would have been fired long ago. The "Angel Hernandez problem" actually boils down to the MLBUA failing to do THEIR job.

I have said the same thing and believe it to be true. If MLB had any guts they'd just fire him. The data supports it.

Anybody who isn't in on our false system/earth knows this is just another staged precursor to robots being the new 'enforcement' to the game and beyond 🤦‍♂.

Joe West fits into that category as well...

@@MrRogers1219 I'll have to respectfully disagree. Joe West is a generic name that if you say to most casual baseball fans, won't really know. But they ALL know who Angel Hernandez is

@@LetsDIYItMaybe Joe West wasn't a household name, but "Cowboy Joe" did things to make himself more of a personality than he should have been...

​@@MrRogers1219 I won't disagree with that. His level of incompetence isn't on the same level as Angel's, and likely the reason he is not as well known. The die hard baseball fans know West's name, but not most of the casual ones (I believe)

@@LetsDIYItfair point.

@bobcarp1239 A. Hernandez would outplay Art Tatum.

But just to be clear….You do NOT want to see him topless, right? 😂😂😂

​@@NomahLovesYahtapas swiss miss

Man that’s a good quote 😂😂😂

He would call "strike".

Or….and hear me out…..he’s in a union. MLB squashed ump pay and union got them permanent jobs instead

Commie union

I like the ungodly acts things better

@@Kingofthepirates-si1gd or... they don't want to outcast umpires, regardless of how bad they are, because you'll open pandora's box. Once you kick one out, fans will find very quickly their next target. After all, refereeing in major sports is horrible in general.

I think it's the Commish doing things.

yea he has more issues than just the zone

Yep, funny isn't it. It kind of feels like even journalists don't want to address the problem with horrible officials like Hernandez and some of the absurd officiating in the NFL.

And why does that guy look like an AI Ronald Reagan?

Well you can tell Passan just didn’t want to actually answer the question. He either got scared or is getting paid to not have an opinion.

And that decisions held

And the judge was like "yeah he isn't good enough to ump playoffs"

Now it’s all out of spite because he lost that case.

He might offend some blind people, honestly

OMG!!! Great one! Thank you for some needed comic relief 🥲

It was only 5 years or so ago that I first heard of Angel Hernandez, so there’s plenty of room and time for others to float to the surface

@@scottyjbd C.B. Bucknor was voted worst umpire by MLB players two years in a row around 2006-7. He surfaced awhile ago and he's still around.

C.B. has actually had some quality games as of late. His recent one with the Twins/Tigers had 96% of the balls and strikes called correctly, and those he missed were actually fairly borderline.

Joe west?

Toronto had Hernandez for the last game of their opening road trip and returned home and got Bucknor the very next day. If that doesn't throw your perception of the strike zone off nothing will.

This is the real answer. As bad as Hernandez is (incredibly), he occationasially is a VERY good umpire out in the field. I dont recall ever thinking CB was doing a good job.

Bottom 10 rated each year should be given the choice of either the minors of termination..

Don’t think umpires can be fired according to union

The better question is whether he deliberately misses calls to get MLB views and ratings. ​@@jodosh

I think it’s even more nefarious than that. If the fans are screaming and yelling at bad umps the heat is off of the MLB front office for their own horrible management of the game.

My life would be complete if that happened...

You mean award the batting team a touchdown followed by the batter getting two free throws.

Also a 5 yard head start going to first

Gooooooaaaalllllllll, as he holds up both arms on a ball hit over the fence.

Wait until he throws the flag for boarding. 10 yard penalty, loss of down, faceoff to the neutral zone, automatic balk with a yellow card.

He answered it. Automated strike-zones

Yep...Remember he works at ESPN

@@arsenal-slr9552 The question wasn't "how do we fix balls and strikes", the question was about Angel Hernandez and Angel screws up everything, not just balls and strikes. Jeff really avoided talking about the union for the most part which is really the core reason Angel still has a job.

I was thinking the same thing! I don't know who this guy is but he's a horrible interviewee!

He refused to criticize him. Says a lot.

Thats....low key genius

Probably take the fans boycotting.

@@25pinstripes 😎

this. its gonna take a pitcher refusing to take the mound.

It would be interesting to see how MLB would handle that. Two teams forfeiting the same game wouldn't work because of the possibility of it messing up the standings.

Exactly when they know he’s on the crew they dread.

Baseball is almost 200 years old, it's ben that way sence day 1, you always adjust to different umps, how about we swing the pine, and stop looking at a bunch of pitches, if it's close call it, and get this game moving, an ol saying, " Swing the pine Meat,"", ps. Angel has to go,😅😅

@@user-bl6ne3hc6n Well when the pitch is in the opposite batters box there really isn't much you can do about it.

@@adamm2787 move up over the plate and throw your bat at it, 🤣

@@user-bl6ne3hc6n Yeah because that's how things work.

Pete rose got banned bc of his own stupidity of gambling on games but with this whole situation with angel Hernandez…well there truly MLB can’t really do anything bc of the whole lawsuit that Hernandez sent

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I’d love to see that challenge system on ball/strike instituted just to see batters and pitcher continuously embarrassing Hernandez all game.

I'm not one to violence but one of these days a player is going to lose it and physically and go after Angel, suspension be damned. I can't be in favor of that but I totally understand

What has ruined baseball is the "strike zone" box on TV

No

Does the current tech check the full strike zone or just the front of the strike zone? And does it recalculate the height of the strike zone on each pitch?

@@PatrickStahlitrm I'm sure it does in the minors. I don't think it does in the majors on the "rectangle."

Because he's a communist who loves unions. As such, this type of person shouldn't be allowed to cover baseball. Not to mention that automated strike zones are extremely lame.

​@@patjablonski9739he's definitely not a communist, what is this, the 60s all of a sudden? Get a grip

@patjablonski9739 I usually go to Reddit to find mind numbingly stupid comments but I was able to get it right here from you. Thanks for saving me the effort. Lol you called Jeff passan a communist 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Pat jablonski coming in hot with the absolute hottest smooth brain takes

@@patjablonski9739As a matter of fact labor unions made this country an economic superpower and solidified the middle class. Communism is the antithesis of unionized labor. Put down your orange kool-aid.

There still has to be a baseline/bottom-line for performance.

If they did.. the umpiring would get worse.. too many are already over that age... Somebody brought that up with my HS association... that coach got informed that if they did that, they'd have about 1/10th of the number of umpires left.. and they are already short handed... MLB should get a bookie to claim under oath that he's paying Angel to shave points.... then they could just lifetime Ban him like they did Rose and Jackson.

A union's job is to represent its members. If Manfred and his minions had any balls, they would take on the union--and they would win. But they don't have the stomach for it.

This. I've worked in Unions when I was in my early 20s and I saw guys do things that would get your fired by OSHA, and they WOULD be fired, on the spot, then have their job back within 3 days because "Union" Unions now don't do what they're were designed to do. Now they're huge cash cows that promote laziness and shitty workers by allowing employees to get away with murder, so long as you pay your dues. Teamsters is one of the worst. Saw all of it first hand.

@@mc76 well, the US Supreme Court has a bunch of elderly people ( no union) and both candidates for President are elderly and losing their marbles ( no union) and no one forces lawyers, doctors, accountants, dentists, plumbers or electricians to retire. So it’s not only a union problem. MLB apparently decided it doesn’t want responsibility for monitoring officials.

The challenge system is silly. Since the automated call takes precedence just use the automated call in the first place.

The challenge system isn’t silly if you want to keep some form of human element in the game.

Passan's statement lacked any supporting evidence.

According to the AAA rules, teams get three challenges per game. If an Umpire's call is overturned, then the team, then that challenge number doesn't go down. If Hernandez gets overturned on the first pitch, then he would look very stupid immediately if he continued to get corrected on every pitch. If the missed call was unintentional, then Hernandez would "learn" that that pitch going to that location is a strike or whatever. If feedback is immediate, humans learn better than if the feedback is given potentially hours later. If the missed call was intentionally called wrong, then Hernandez would look like a fool repeatedly making the wrong call and the computer telling him he is wrong. In any case, the situation is absurd. The umpires themselves should have cleaned house long, long ago. I don't even follow baseball except for occasionally watching Jomboy. I might be able to name seven or eight baseball players in all of MLB. The fact that I know Angel Hernandez's name indicates that something is very, very wrong.

@@jeffreyharris3440 did you ever see the video of like 5 calls at 1st by Hernandez being challenged and overturned in the same game? I’d have no reason to believe he’d make the adjustment. He’s just lost out there.

@@bradm4493 Thank you. I did not see that video. If that is the case, I'll retract what I said, because clearly Hernandez has serious issues of some sort. He should not be calling games - especially at the highest level. But again, I don't watch games any more, I don't buy tickets, and won't buy merchandise.

@@jeffreyharris3440don’t get me wrong. I understand your point and the logic. That would make sense for most. He’s just so bad. I mean last year when Schwarber blew a gasket and told him you suck and have been blowing calls high, low, inside, outside and for both teams..that’s as bad as it gets. Schwarber was representing both teams 😂

Something similar will be in place by 2026. Ball and strike challenge replay

Saw a joke that he must own stock in the company that makes the robo umps

I'm against many of recent innovations in baseball, but I can not wait for the robo umps.

All they have to do is get rid of umpires that can't make the right call a % of the time. But instead your nerds want robot umps smh

@@rancidcrawfish Seems simple enough, but getting rid of umpires is actually very difficult, which is why we still have Angel.

@@rancidcrawfish Hernandez will be the last umpire standing..He knows it...The more they scream and hollar at him...The more he gets off on it.

Jeff isn't out to step on anyone's toes. He keeps it lighthearted, everywhere he goes. Has no enemies, as a result.

He actually has middle of the pack accuracy stats on the umpire scorecard

Just look at Joe Biden, and that's your answer.

@@lender3000 Biden got elected. Hernandez is still there because of unions.

Umpires union.

​@lender3000 you people are so weird talking about an umpire, and you make it political.

@@Ski_Unit Oh and the umpire union isn't political and bureaucratic. Ok. Let me send you a lolly pop..

Laz Diaz is pretty bad too he should be in the conversation

Cb bucknor and his crew mate jeff nelson 👎

@@maxdubs2241 CB Bucknor was rated the worst last season. He and Angel have been the worst for a while, now. West never got below 4th worst, IMO.

To be fair to Joe, when he was young he was actually one of the best B/S umpires in MLB. He just stuck around way too long.

CB. CB, no worse umpire

I can't believe there hasn't been a sports betting class action.

Yes , sure does. My last union job had to bring back a guy that was in jail for 6 weeks waiting on bond for domestic violence, gun possession and drug charges. Due to the union rules he had to be allowed back to work. His arrest was on the local news it was so bad.

I think you’re mixing up local news for national news. Local news isn’t a big deal lol

@@whiskeybuddha1995 in Atlanta , a city of 7 million people, yeah it’s a big deal. That’s what happened .

@@whiskeybuddha1995 also do you want to work with a meth head that beat up his pregnant wife and put her in the hospital and then pulled a gun on the cops? Because we didn’t and it made our company look terrible.

Unions are necessary to protect workers, but the workers must protect themselves from poor workers that hurt the union’s position to work effectively and collectively bargain

Three letters DEI

​@@25pinstripesAnd there it is...your racial angst.

yes, and many sports are doing it. in volleyball a team has the right to challenge two calls per set. Angel was not umpiring a game in which he interferred directly with the result yet, but other umpires have. Jim Joyce in 2010 made a mistake that costed a perfect game for Armando Gallarraga. As said, you cannot get perfection, but you have to remove the more serious mistakes.