It's not for international viewers. Even Netflix and Prime only costs 2.76 USD without any ads and with HBO charging 1.72 USD, it's wild for Watcher to charge $6 + tax when that's the kind of market they're competing with, with so little to offer.

Legit, on average they posted 8 videos a month (4 of those being TRAILERS). That is no where near $6 worth.

6 bucks is what I pay for netflix

6 bucks is what I pay for my family's youtube premium subscription (converted from my currency). That's ad-free access to ALL channels on this site for the same price a month for 5 individual accounts. That price is ridiculous but a lot of the big creators have been moving behind paywalls these past few years.

@@genericplantlifeplus UKposts Music, if you use it!

exactly this!!

Difference is, you don't HAVE to pay for all of them lmao. It's lame and they deserve all the hate, but like, they're a business. It's always going to be about money. They want more, they'll do what they think they need to do to make more, even if it ends up drowning the company because they're out of touch. But nobody is MAKING you pay for any of those 10 subscriptions you pay for. Complaining it's "another" subscription is literally first world problem goofery

TRULYY

Another thing is that most people don’t even think about this outside this country. My monthly paycheck is 180 in dollars, since the money value difference is so huge. So this would definitely not be affordable for me and to a lot of people from outside.

And minimum wage is still $7.25 in quite a few states…

No it isn't, idk where you getting this info. A lot of people who are living in paycheck-to-paycheck still buy subscriptions like Netflix, gym membership, etc. Which means they see it as affordable and beneficial. The problem is that their content is just not worth 6 dollars. Literally I can find better UKpostsrs than them with high quality production that can make videos way better than them FOR FREE.

​@@lenny7822Where are you getting your info?

​​@@lenny7822 uh actually ,yes it is...... I was homeless for three years living in a damn flea bit hotel with twin little girl's in tow up till a year ago. So yes there are some people who don't have Netflix or 50 subscriptions or cable tv or buying $12 cups of Starbucks every day there are those of us that don't have any of that because we have to feed our kids we quite litt live on youtube because its free at least till I am on my feet !

@@lenny7822 The people scraping by and having to fight between eating or not eating are definitely not paying for subscriptions. You're comparing two different kinds of people. I definitely can't afford food if I subscribe to anything. Lol

​@@lenny7822you're so fucking out of touch you're comparing people who don't have disposable income to those who can't afford to buy groceries and rent so they pay rent and go to bed hungry.

PREACH

The more successful ones are undoubtedly earning enough, smaller channels, before the algorithm blesses them, do struggle a bit

I'm sure the current Shane does too lol

Did you notice him smirking through the whole video? He knows this is going down in flames. A TORRENT of backlash is coming.

Real

I’m pretty sure he advocated for people to share passwords after the discussion of the price there at the end. Whatever, it’s disappointing all around

I come to UKposts to avoid subscriptions. Or rumble when a creator can’t post to UKposts due to the censors. Why TF would I pay for what was once free, and only get their uploads, vs actual subscriptions that give you an endless library of content?

FAN SUBMITTED!!! GHOST STORIES. they also have are you scared which is, again, FAN SUBMITTED horror stories. They literally built their brand off the backs of their fans

​​@@blakewhite3131im pretty sure that the stories from are you scared are all from reddit not from fans

​@@sleepsleep2 at first it was from reddit like russian sleep experiment and smile dog. But the newer season is a fan submitted

IT'S SO STUPID. I've been a fan of them since the initial run Of Unsolved Season 3! SEASON 3! We literally don't give a shit about production quality, we care about the dynamic between Ryan and Shane. Nobody fucking cares about Steven Lim and you can see that simply with the views on their respective shows!

its WILD creators have been talking about how difficult it is to make money off youtube for YEARS due to the censorship,etc and yall are still acting like 2 million views on a video gets you mr beast money or something.

You know you’re greedy when fucking DISNEY has more rational and affordable pricing.

@@superflashyariel3835 😂😂😂😂 I mean DISNEY. The company who is the best candidate to win an irl Monopoly game

@@superflashyariel3835 This.

In Chile Disney+; Star+ and another platform that I don't remember have an agreement with the MercadoLibre There are 3 streaming platforms for 7 dollars plus discounts on MercadoLibre😅

and they are still not making a proffit on d+.

this!!! for me, the charm of unsolved was their funny banter. i always go back to unsolved bc i don't see the charm in the watcher content

Yeah, i think i would have been fine with the low budget set again.

Let's not forget about Puppet History. Add a third chair and a set for the professor please

@@Midnight0Mistress literally. no one would’ve been mad. we watched for YOU!

Unfortunately they aren’t thinking about us. They’ve always talked about how THEY want to make more highly-produced stuff. They either are completely oblivious or actively ignoring what viewers say they like about their content

On top of that, these companies have bundles. Disney Plus and Hulu along with ESPN are all bundled together Netflix is bundled with some cell phone brands so as long as you have a phone you also have Netflix. Obviously prime video is bundled with prime shopping which a lot of people use. Watcher is bundled with nothing

Yup and those are just the rates with ads, those services get a lot more expensive if you dont want ads, and I wouldnt be surprised if watcher will be the same, with 5.99 being the "base package"

YT Premium is $23/mo. Why would I pay to watch the same content on another service?

If people were smart they would get access to a plex server with it all for like 2bucks a month lol

ikr no offense guys but comparison wise you are a small child in the streaming world and you don't have a hope of EVER competing with Disney Netflix or prime

This isn't being said enough.

Tbf three screens at once for one account is pretty decent.

@@StephenNgo-sw7ty that's not the point

​@@dacorsiiiiwhat... *Is* the point?

How many friends do you have that are all watching at the same Time Lmao

right lol, its not even just subscription services either, like basic needs like food is way more expensive than it was 3-4 years ago

not just America, all 7 continents are struggling rn. the conversion rates are different for each country, 6 dollars is not the same thru and thru

The whole world actually is in a cost of living crisis

The world is struggling.

fam...its 6 bucks a month...80% of their viewers are commenting their hate while sipping their $7 daily starbucks... for the rest of us they literally said account sharing is fine. Get 5 friends to split and now its $1 a month...

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

@@PWRGEUTTP Cool beans, i hope you never get a single penny out of UKposts :)

Oh thats why they look like that

​@@PWRGEUTTPshut up bozo

@@ImSaneeeI hope UKposts charges them atm

They used to basically do that essentially, with cuts to literal black screens with text of their conversation. It was peak content in a way.

their scary story segment started with like the most low budget looking setup ever, just them two in their homes in a dark room with their computer screens lighting their faces. and people ate it up as they should, good fucking content came from that

yes!! The first season of Are You Scared - it was SO GOOD that way! I wish they still did it like that

@@ShearGenius88THE WRATH OF A THOUSAND CHIHUAHUAS ARE NOW APON YOU!!!!!

@@ShearGenius88 yeah i think covid was the main reason why they were separated and extremely low budget, but just like a plain room with dim ambient lighting would literally be enough for a spooky story reading.

Couldn’t have said it better

My parents said if I reach 10k, they'd buy me a professional camera for recording... Pls guys Im literally begging you.

Who asked. My content is far better lol...

Who asked. My content is far better lol...

Who asked. My content is far better lol...

I'm upset that they left but it is understandable and I hope they do well.

This comment is too real

We got wheeled. :(

To be honest though we don't know the full story or who decided on what. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough but at the end of the day the CEO (Steven) deserves all the blame and backlash for this greedy decision. Ryan and Shane may have been obligated by contract to agree to whatever the CEO said or risk losing their career. I really hope so at least because that would make them total freaking posers and greedy clowns if not.

@@TheAnthonyG. oh for sure, i wasn’t meaning to sound like they’re the only ones to blame cause i have no idea what happened leading up to this moment behind the scenes- all i know is i got dumped lmao 😭

Who asked. My content is far better lol..

I cancelled Hulu, Netflix, Disney plus etc. I'm tired of streaming services. I've bought merchandise, subscribed etc but I'm not getting another monthly expense for entertainment. The cost of living is too high and I don't care to see my money be used for Sara rubin's 100 dollar tote bags or Stevens 300 dollar avocado toast.

It’s genuinely predatory, subscription services exists because they hope people will forget about them (they do) so they can keep charging them. And the more that exist, the harder they are to keep up with if you’re subscribed to a lot

Indeed before you got full tv channel for 50 now you get only a part for the same price. Even more if you buy all subscription on prime video.

I actually watched them on BuzzFeed and Watcher and while their production was much better on Watcher, the content was way better on BuzzFeed unsolved imo. They were still decently entertainin, but they started taking themselves way too seriously and really lost what made them special to me.

Buzzfeed??? Fucking gross I'm out

@@Clooger- they were the only good part of BuzzFeed Original Content, they ran the BuzzFeed Unsolved True Crime and Supernatural series, which had absolutely nothing to do with BuzzFeed for the most part, which made them so great

@@Clooger- Right reaction, one everyone had, and while we all ran to the hills they carried those f*ckers on their backs while not earning that much money, they are the reason why those guys are still afloat at this point, I swear.

@@MyNameIsRow01 Fair enough

THIS. I felt bad about saying it before but I don’t now. Ghost Files is boring and the spark is long gone, Unsolved was 10x better and I miss it so much.

i genuinely stopped watching them shortly after they left BF lmao

@@meowmew444ghost files is just for us coping. It’s alright but it’s not the same.

It worked better at Unsolved because Ryan played the straight man who got scared at a moment's notice while Shane played the goofy side character. Now they're both the goofy side character.

Yeah.. i still like the watchers true crime series and the "discussion in a basement" concept of it, but ghost files doesnt hit the same as unsolved but I couldnt pin down why. One of my biggest issue is the episodes are too long for nothing, not enough interesting things are happening, no funny banter, but they insist on it being a longer video where it wouldve been better to cut it shorter

This is basically why everyone is blaming Steven. But I mean, Ryan & Shane had voices too but they choose to go along with this hair brained scheme.

​@TwiggyHetfield27 this is a good point. I see a lot of people only mentioning Steven. did he hold them at 🔫 point and make them agree to this?? we gotta question their motives in this too.

@@babygrimaceeeMotives? The ONLY motive in this is to make more money. There’s no other reason to do this. Ever. Greed is ugly, and no one likes it.

@@Frost.7xx you're right, I guess it's just weird to see people that would have told us to pirate it now acting corporate.

Damn when you put it that way, that is frustrating 🥲

actually the wedding was more expensive than that 55k was on their venue alone! not to mention the bride wore at least 3 different dresses that day too. their wedding i heard estimated around 250k

@@shymoonswhere do yall see this info? Do they post all of this on their socials?

​@@yvonnecortes_ Shane's wife is blocking everyone on Tumblr who even dares to address this video, she made some really nasty comments that all sounded like "not my fault if you're poor and this is the best decision" when she flaunts her 100 tote bag for her honeymoon, and keep reminding us about how much she spent on her wedding. I never liked her, and now I know why.

@@tmalaklaryka damn really?! that's horrible.

@@shymoons wow, what a businessman - men usually go broke after a divorce, he spent all on the wedding night...

Also the Tesla and his $300 matcha machine...

Im telling you this is the same shit in every industry. No one in their right mind who majes something great for themselves is suddenly going to give it away to someone else. Its actually not "fair" when you look into it. We pay higher subscriptions for content in which the ceo can make a 100 million dollar bonus. You can yell at the top of your lungs that that is unfair and the subscription should cost less but the CEO made that money BECAUSE you are paying for it. Simply put, as it is in many industries, if you want change, don't pay for it.

Don’t forget his Tesla and his food show where he eats the most expensive food possible 🙄

@@carontorliak2760 oh and I absolutely will not be paying for it

Honestly, that Podcast made move from indifference about Silver Spoon Steven to full blown hate. That boy is so insanely inept and tone deaf. Those pods are so cringe. All their global vacations, the money they are blowing, the gold leaf food, the special caviar.. that Pod left me feeling so icky.

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

Where did they say that? Not saying I don't believe it, I just want to see what they said specifically.

Where tf did they state that? If anything they said they were still occasionally posting stuff on YT as promo, like the season premiere of series, which makes a lot more sense than whatever you’re claimimg

That's cowardly beta behavior. A strong man stands behind his convictions, even if science and social justice groups prove him wrong.

​@@goblinkyVariety article that Ryan shared. There you can find an edit that the guys originally told them that they're gonna delete all of the vids from youtube, but then Ryan wrote a tweet that they're not gonna do that. Also 11:40 and 12:45 on their vid - Ryan says things like - now we can access the vids on yt, but later the whole shows and new releases are gonna be available only on their site. Aaaand - they edited their own comment under the vid at least twice now. At first they said that people misunderstood them and they're not in fact gonna delete the videos. And then they deleted a word "misunderstood"

6 US dollars can actually get me a weeks worth of food if im smart abt it like 😭😭😭 *edit for spelling

6 USD IS ABOUT 100,OOO IDR in indonesia, and their minimum wage is about 29,000 an hour, which is $1.79 in USD. God forbid they have any fan in indonesia or phillipines or somewhere else that has a smaller dollar value

@@Conceptually_yours As a Filipino not living in the capital, $6 would literally get me groceries to last half or even up to an entire week if I'm the only eating it.

@@Randomositiesswherr are you from?

YES! 6$ can feed me for a week literally!!!!

Bro they don’t give it to their patrons automatically?💀 what a slap in the face to them

Now that is scummy. As someone who knows nothing about the channel but, and this is an unpopular opinion, can understand how they would want more income for bigger and better projects, that makes sense. If it were me, I would keep those projects separate from the the stuff already being published on YT, but I'd get it. But having a Patreon should already be the subscription based product. And to make those people pay twice? All understanding flew out the window.

i think in the apology video that they said that Patreon supporters will get a free code for the site Edit: "All current Patreon members will receive a free subscription code to the platform. If you've already purchased a subscription, please contact us and we will issue you a full refund." not sure how much i trust this, but im definitely interested to see how they handle everything

Geez, talk about ungrateful. These guys are extremely out of touch with their fans to pull that wool over their eyes. "Pay to support us, but also pay us again if you want to keep watching our stuff, because it's no longer free!" I'm glad I never heard of them before, because I'd be so disheartened if a channel I cared about tried pulling a stunt like this

Now that's horrible move , like what?? Dude the patron should get free because their already backing

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS. I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

sup anti troll (idk who you are just wanted to say hi :D)

@@mr.lizard666satanist

you’re a criminal

@@mr.lizard666 Hello friend

plus iirc dropout started because so many people were being let go by collegehumor, them moving to dropout wasn't about making more money it actually gave stability and opportunities to a lot of comedians and artists. i got dropout for d20, which alone has 21 independent seasons featuring a huge cast, dedicated art team, customisable subtitles, audio only versions, trigger warnings with time stamps and three separate behind the scenes series. again, this is ONE show. you can see where their production budget goes because it adds significant value to their content

Yea this sounds very similar to dropout. But their context was different as you guys point out. Also, it's a huge backlog of content that dropout has. But it is the same business model, except patreon.

this is completely unrelated to your comment but you should pirate academic papers, researchers don't get paid for their articles it's literally just journals ripping people off

microwave rice is no joke I used to live on that and ramen. also fuck your college for not giving free access to academic papers

Potatoes.

I lived off potatoes and whey protein for all 4 years of college. Its an unbeatable combo

where do you live where shampoo and conditioner are only 6 dollars😭

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS. I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

Didn't ask. My content is far superior and has more value than anything this youtuber has ever produced so get over it!‎

not that funny

please do not respond to the spammers in the reply section

⁠@@PWRGEUTTPbruh you are not fighting cyber bullying when you say “THIS CONTENT FUCKING SUCKS” like stop

Right, like I'm sure they all huddled in an office to watch the final video before posting it - and not a single one of them commented on that line, which is so wild to me. Maybe they didn't really pick up on it.. but I doubt it

Right!? what a slap in the face to people who don't have as much, a tv subscription is a privilege

right, that's 70 dollars per year

Right?! Not one soul is willing to pay that just to watch some youtube videos

literally. no regard for international fans either. It's not cheap for us either

Exactly. They're trying to up the production value for their own egos and give all their homeboys jobs, which is admirable, but not if you expect your audience to directly pay for it.

The early vids were the best

Buzzfeed was famous for unrealistically quick turnaround time and almost zero production costs. It’s nice that they’ve upped their production value, but it’s bizarre that the lesson they’ve learned from getting big on buzzfeed is to spend more and more money and screw over your audience to do it.

The entitlement in thinking asking to be paid for their output is “screwing their audience” is absolutely absurd.

its something that happens to like 80-90% of youtubers. they keep wanting to expand constantly and "build a brand/business" they expand and expand, when they would keep the audience if they went back to their solo no employee style from when they started. the glint of greed and success blinds them to the reality that nobody cares. and even some viewers like myself, stop watching most of them once the production value gets so high. i want the streamer in their moms basement, not some disingenuous production company churning out crap. its why you see some channels with several million subs but only like 15k views per video

And also, now that they’ve backpedaled, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of those old sponsors drop them. If I was buying ad space from them before, I know I’d be like “Oh so you’re too good for my ads now? Guess I’ll go give my money to someone who actually wants it.”

They’ve already started

Internet archives, Turkey Tom, Sunny v2, J aubrey, and TRO waiting in the wings be like:

Internet anarchist also

@@matthewcron8842 yeah, this is the first. not a very good essay but hey, true vulture my man

Are you kidding? SunnyV2 already made a video about this 3 days ago.

hes an enigma

ong

Real talk tho

I never realized how much of one he is until this video , impressive

what is a "legit business man"?

Keep in there!

Facts. Man is still humble even after all his success.

Hope he stays this way forever… pls be for the people 😭

Crazy I just now commented the same thing before I seen your comment. Nice to see Frfr

@@thecov3n the starforgesystem drama definitely wasn't "for the people"

Ya, coz like what even? Steven goes off saying $6 is nothing.. Ya to him prolly. That's enough for the country I'm in for 1 week of groceries.

Then people got sick of paying for subscription services and started pirating everything 🤭

now, idk how it's in the US but digital tv(that's what's cable it's called here) is usually paid to one provider and for a package of channels. with all the streaming services, each doing their own thing it's like paying for each channel on cable seperately and with additional costs(like Disney having people pay addition 15 or so bucks, to watch their Raya when it first came out.) and all of them being the cost of an entire package. I sincerly hope that it all crashes down bc they killed the goose laying golden eggs.

@@negligible_reality Literally anyone that's a fan of Watcher and has a brain is just going to wait until someone pays for the subscription to upload elsewhere like xhamster. It's how people watch Vlog Creation's paywall BS for free too.

I still pay for cable even though I rarely watch TV these days. If a girl wants to come over and watch any of the movie channels, they're all available. Your house has to provide 5-star hotel service if you want to get those 9s or 10s.

_"So, since y'all absolutely hated paying for even ONE cable bill... How would you like to pay for 257 BILLION cable bills instead? It's a certified steal!"_ - Corpo Suit Number 20'054 probably

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘 boo

​@@itz_me_aziza_21 Monkey. D Luffy:

no.

I'm better than charlie cry about it ,,,,,,

half of one of those brand deals could change my life forever lmao

That's a fourth of the cost of a brand new one bedroom flat where I live.

@@Nadia1989then move tf

Same. I'd sell my soul for 5k, just to break my lease 😅

I mean they’re a business with lots of employees lol it doesn’t just go into one of their pockets

I like "are you scared" - no money, just to guys on zoom call :D

@@agnieszkaadamkiewicz4747 agreed! sad to see them ruin their name with this awful decision but i really hope they figure out that their audience is there for them, not the amount of money they spend!

God that is so sad.

This makes me sick. How betrayed would that person have felt watching that video? They had this place they came to for a little entertainment amidst all their struggles. Suddenly, these people who you thought were nice and genuine decide to spit in your face by making a statement like "we can all afford $6!", when that amount of money could potentially feed you for multiple days, if not a week. Absolutely disgusting.

Not 6 dollar's it's 6.99 (that 7 dollars) we need to stop rounding down to x, when we see x.99 instead we need to think x+1

Yep, years of being homeless I held onto hope by watching the boys on my phone. Guess no one is immune to greed or shitting on their fans.

⁠@@austinschwartz7424the actual price is $5.99, i just rounded up :)

Giving big Bezos “give us extra $3 a month for no ads on prime” energy

Never watched their stuff. The first shot of the video is the Hollywood logo. That place must be costly when they live there

watched 'are you scared' for a long time, have been waiting for a new season so so long. Then hear they are making a new season, I get excited. Next thing I know, they are paywalling it all, including the 'are you scared'. Now I'm sad 😢😢

People like that made me a marxist

@@DiogenesUlyanov cringe

Pokimane's cookies comes to mind

@@KenjiAsakura09 why? having slightly overpriced (branded) merch on OFFER is not the same thing as someone feeling entitled to your money.

@@xXluluchanelXxbro she literally was going off on the people who wouldn’t buy her cookies saying they’re broke and degrading them if they don’t. Stop simping.

@@xXluluchanelXxgotta defend you mindless girlboss huh?

@@xXluluchanelXx”if yo broke just say that”

The only time where Shaniacs and Boogaras agreed on one thing.

@@lunaredgraveif it helps, we also seem to agree that none of us ever liked Steven Lim 🙊 but we were all politely being quiet about it until now 😂

​​@@OpalLeighI feel like this is a safe space to express myself here about Steven, never liked the guy, he really tries too hard to be funny and his "vibes" really throw off the chemistry of Ryan and Shane. Imo! He's like the obnoxious third wheel that was dragged along out of pity.

I wouldn’t call myself a fan of the whole channel. I only watch their ghost hunter show and then the follow-up videos. They are great. But I’m not paying to watch it 😂

@@peaches44 This comment section makes me so happy to know I'm not the only one who never liked Steven Lim. I came for Ryan and Shane and I always felt like Steven just kinda threw himself in there, he never really fit in and stood out like a sore thumb. It's a shame that my dislike for him is now justified due to his scumbag decisions.

Exactly

I don't like him either.

We put up with Steven because of Ryan and Shane. Steven has a vision, and it does not include relatable content.

I always had bad vibes about him

it was always these two so when a dude you don't know gets involved its weird you know? and its not like mr bartender on the show, he's himself and not that present, but steven is always kinda there, no? like if you're gonna bring a third party, they should be involved? like trixie mattel and her editor, its not a fake relationship, he's not just there once.

What we should have questioned was their good nature. They are obviously just grifters.

Yeah that skeptic mindset of people actually being allowed to think was one of the reasons I liked them. It wasn't about blindly following a celebrity

How is it a greedy business venture when they’re trying to escape the corporate hellscape that is servicing under UKposts? UKposts fucks over creators and they want to be able to make their own rules and that requires money. Idgi don’t you want more for independent creators trying to make a name for themselves?

This one comment also said "It was funny when they took Buzzfeed's money to do it, but not funny when it's our money"

Saw someone on Twitter talk about watching Ghost Files while in line for food stamps, and now they’re expected to pay $60 to do the same damn thing

they are adults that make their own decision, how are you trying to blame this on some imaginary "adivser" here?

unfortunately i do think this is steven's idea

​@@clueless4138idk what the point of this comment is. Like, advisors can't be adults?? Adults can't make bad financial decisions???? Watcher takes advice from children????? 🤦🏻‍♀️

@@clueless4138 the ceo is allegedly very money hungry. a ceo’s job is make/approve choices for the betterment of the company, so it’s kinda common sense that steven lim is responsible. even if it wasn’t his idea he signed off on it, weird. i don’t think it was an advisor that made this decision lmao

@@tatarashimost definitely!

LMAO

👀

😂😂😂😂😂

I remember going grocery shopping with my mom, as a child, and our weekly grocery bill was always sitting around $100, and that was to feed a family of FOUR. Now my weekly groceries, alone, are roughly $70. It's absurd.

It was not easier to get a job when Netflix came out. Right now literally everywhere is hiring and they pay more than they ever have. If you're struggling it's no ones fault but their own. There's plenty of money to be had out there.

@@youtubebannedme4207You have no idea, you’re just making assumptions based on casual observation cuz you need to feel self-righteous in lieu of having any healthy self-esteem.

And Netflix almost had everything on there?

@@youtubebannedme4207 then why, when I was looking for a job, did I apply to so many places and no one got back to me? And the few who did rejected me, because I didn’t have enough experience to be a barista or a cashier at a pet store. If you don’t have 5 years experience in the relevant field, no one wants you, even for entry level jobs. It’s ridiculous. I did finally find a job after about 4 or so months of searching, but my boss literally told me I wasn’t her first option because I didn’t have experience ;-; Also my brother, who was a supervisor at his last job, got rejected by TARGET. For a regular cashier position. So no, it’s not easy to get a job, and you’d know that if you talked to literally anyone who has recently been or is still on a job hunt.

thats so real, even if i love the creator, i forget unless its in front of me

Same!​@@sublimepenny5309

Dropout TV has entered the chat

​@@Donovarkhallumi feel like they're just kinda built different...i hope they last longer than rt did tho

@@sublimepenny5309 SAME this is so true

To be fair, watcher is also pulling back curtains. They are being transparent. Transparently greedy. Three multi-millionaires sitting on a very expensive set being filmed with expensive equipment with their 500 dollar haircuts, thousand dollar jackets sitting in antique Victorian chairs. The transparently greedy pompous image they are putting out is only missing the hairless Siamese cat being pet in a menacing fashion and a cigar.

SAME

​@TwilightGirl2341 ...your profile pic says the opposite? You're at Disneyland or Hogwarts or something? Pretty sure you can afford things.

​@@chrislevack405..... You know people can save up for vacations and trips or get taken there by their parents as a gift or something????? doesn't mean they have money. My parents took me to Disney when i was 19 and then had me figure out myself how to afford to eat when i started college a month later

@@chrislevack405 what a weird thing to assume based off a picture that could possibly be years old LMAO

@@chrislevack405 you do realize once every few years or so vacations are a thing?? Or even went with friends or family??? What a stupid comment and assumption to make about someone just bc they're at an amusement park

I'm pretty sure Steven is the reason they can't "budget". as in, the "budget" is his pocket money and they have to try and find even more of it -- it'll never be enough.

@@xXluluchanelXx personally, I don’t think this is the case. Ghost Files in particular is, IMO, massively overproduced. They could have canned the flashy visuals and fancy set and the audience would stick around for the ghoulboys alone, but alas, they choose to aim higher than was reasonable.

What a bargain

What were some of the promises they said they would do?

​@@xXluluchanelXxtbh I don't get why Steven is making so many of his own shows, he's not as popular as Ryan and Shane. They could have cut back on the shooting costs by cutting some of the less popular shows.

EXACTLY this is what people are not getting! So much of their content is based off of stuff the FANS SUBMIT and now they can’t even watch the stuff that features their content ??

The fact that they asked fans to submit new stories for the new season literally a couple days before posting their “Goodbye UKposts” video is so icky to me

yep. i’ve been working on a story for the past year to submit for an “are you scared” episode, but then the news dropped. the series was what got me into writing again and i really wanted to submit something as a thank you for that

@@Charlotte-qz2if They've disappointed so many people. I hope you and the other creative fans can find new motivation for writing.

@@jessicat2149 Ya, that’s incredibly gross. They will use stories from people who can’t afford to subscribe and watch their stories being told.

Damn, even just UKposts premium is a couple bucks more and that's millions of videos ad free. It's insane to pay 6 bucks for one channel that isn't even producing content at least once a week.

@@plumbunnii A couple bucks?! More like double that price, granted there is thousands if not millions of hours of content at all times.

@@plumbunnii youtube premium is literally theft you guys are wild for putting money just in youtubes pocket but complain about a creator wanting to expand their career and rake it more seriously from now on. Im so sick of people complaining if you dont wanna spend the money dont and get over it.

​@@kristenmckinniss5517 people are allowed to criticize their horrible business decisions lol

@@kristenmckinniss5517 YT Premium gives creators MORE money, not less. For videos with monetization enabled, creators are paid out much more per user if they are on YT Premium than if a user isn''t. The problem here isnt that people dont wanna spend money, the problem is that youtubers like themselves are taking previously free content and making it paid. If this becomes a trend for mid-sized youtubers, then it could trend to have many many channels behind a paywall.

couldn't agree more!

I really liked that take on the inside business of things! Really opened my perspective

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS. I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

wow amazing take sherlock

Then explain Patreon. Plenty of people make a lot of money through that, which is basically a subscription service.

@@MrKrk221988patreon I’m most peoples eyes is a way to both get exclusive content while also SUPPORTING a creator they like. I have a Netflix subscription because I want the exclusive and consolidated content I don’t give a single shit about supporting Netflix as a company I just want the content. That’s the difference between patreon and regular subscription services

@@MrKrk221988 because it guilt trips people into supporting richer people. They all do it. "your subs keep us going" "we need your help" "ad revenue isnt cutting it anymore". theres 1000s of way to say it, but the end result is the same. People with money guilt tripping people with less money into paying for things they dont need.

I MAKE BETTER CONTENT THAN THIS I'm a 30+ year old media creator with aspergers syndrome who is a jack of all trades with a passion for fighting against cyberbullying. I've been doing these kinds of things for over 10 years and I've picked up a whole set of different skills along the way.

Crazy how I am stronger than 3 kids as a girl 😘 boo

yeah it sucks

@@PWRGEUTTPanti cyber bullying but also spamming comments insulting someone’s channel on their channel, checks out

@@ihateualsoI just reported the channel, hopefully it’ll get taken down. I’m aware that it’s a hydra, but still.

Only said eat the rich when he was ready to ditch buzzfeed in the hopes for more profit then when they realized oh shit we cant make worse content and get 30 million views every video still they turn to a subscription model lmao

Did we expect anything other then blatant hypocrisy from former Buzzfeed employees?

Never trust a commie.

That explains why he avoids mirrors; he sees himself on a dinner plate.

"Eat the Rich" mentality? You probably mean an "Eat the Richer than me" mentality

Yeah, I tried watching Steven's shows when I first subscribed to Watcher, but I never liked him. He just didn't have the same charisma and entertainment value as Ryan and Shane. I think Steven is just an out of touch tech bro honestly, he used all the big tech bro buzzwords when describing their shitty streaming service.

This. They’re having money/production issues? Gee, wonder what series they could stop that would save them hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of dollars with meals, travel, and production that was never the biggest draw for the channel?

I looked the only popular Steven episode was the one with the actor from Marvel. Ppl watched to see the actor not Steven

Steven himself is not very entertaining I had to force myself to watch him, seriously do people actually like his content??

Right? I was super confused how he went from that awkward bartender dude behind the scenes to CEO..........like dude respectfully we're not here for you.

Totally agree. I saw the watcher video and was still thinking, "they just killed their brand," when all the reaction videos started popping up.

I was hoping Charlie would cover it because I couldn't bear to watch the entire video myself lmfao

At first I thought it was a joke. Still can't believe how they thought it was a good idea and to make a video acting like it was a good idea

Yeah :( ​@@zergeistrush460

I’m such a huge fan but this is sad

I strongly suspect Stephen is the ringleader, but 100% they are all still full-grown adults who agreed to this shit.

I recognize that but let me be delulu ;-; I'm already heart broken let me be delulu and pardon the ghoul boys.

they're adults but also cofounders. so even if maybe just shane "eat the rich" Madej said no, it was still a 2:1 vote. Its a shame to see this roll out. I've been a fan since buzzfeed and am sad to see them leave and be rather tone deaf saying "its 5.99 so everyone can afford it" while in a cost of living crisis. we all start somewhere and as someone who is ~ the age shane/ryan were when they started at buzzfeed unsolved (early 20's) I'm struggling to even pay for groceries let alone save to move out, its a damn shame to see this move. The added touch of the first series they're rolling out on watcher tv being about expensive food is really, REALLY tone deaf. I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to bring in more profit, but they could have handled it better. I mean Keith from the try guys is eating EVERYTHING on the menu at Michelin star restaurants right now, and second try LLC defiantly has more employees than watcher, but they continue to put out FREE long form content on their channel while having their patreon and merch for profit along with sponsors. Even Good Mythical Morning is continuing to put out amazing FREE content after a decade on the internet. I just dont see the need to put all future content behind a pay wall even if they are "cool" with people password sharing so its "more accessible". The most accessible content is free content.

@@jade2014 yes exactly 🙏🙏 the entire thing is tone deaf, i am not even in america but there is cost of living crisis everywhere, i feel their fans are all young adults who are just trying to stay afloat in this economy. to say everyone should be able to afford it is just crazy ignorant, i myself am just starting university and there is no way in hell $6 a month is viable for me for what it is stephen bringing back "worth it"? this subscription service is in fact not worth it

What I think happened is a couple of things that just made them go a bit broke faster then they we're expecting. They all got married recently right? I am assuming they paid for all of their weddings with Watcher money and maybe they didn't expect the wedding bills to make they go that in debt. But I mean the wedding photos looked boujie as hell, and a small wedding is still making you pay out the ass. All their weddings looked big and hella expensive. Plus Steven has a Tesla and wants a second one and he wants his own coffee shop to run. I think Steven was hoping this service was gonna give him enough money to fulfill his wildest dreams but they all forgot that they aren't funding anything and are nothing without fans. Hope they figure this shit out or they gonna be the fry cooks at McDonald's

I truly hope Dropout’s name doesn’t get even a speck of mud I LOVE DROPOUT and they even have a more affordable option on UKposts and release SO MUCH AMAZING CONTENT and every episode they share has been touched by amazing artists and set design and sound design teams it is all so worth it. They are literally the only source of media I’ve consumed all year till now and I still have an ocean left to explore.

@@ananyaa2001 this!!!!!!!!

Dropout is actually worth the price though

@@trina8255 100%

Also dropout is $2 a month with various shows and series with already established content to look at. This is a subscription for the hope for more content