Guardians of the Galaxy: PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S - A Great Game But 60FPS Comes At A Cost

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Eidos Montreal's gorgeous take on Guardian's of the Galaxy gets a full tech breakdown, as played on PS5 and Xbox Series consoles. The game runs with two modes on PS5 and Series X, allowing for 1080p and 60fps gameplay or 4K at 30fps. Tom dissects the pros and cons of each - and the fortunes of the Series S version too.
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@dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd
@dddddddddddddddadddddddddddddd 2 роки тому
"Did you get 60fps?" "Yes" "What did it cost?" "Everything"
@stephonhines6554
@stephonhines6554 2 роки тому
This is bad 😂
@SolidSnaake
@SolidSnaake 2 роки тому
If this was reddit, I would have awarded this comment.
@floatinggoose9197
@floatinggoose9197 2 роки тому
Yea. 1080p60. I honestly think it's ridiculous, that they marketed these machines as 4k60 powerhouses, woth 120hz even being mentioned. 2 games run at 120 right ? I have a 600 console with a 800 TV, to play at 1080p. Wtf
@savions4005
@savions4005 2 роки тому
I couldn’t stand it, I just dealt with 30 fps and got used to it. This game at 4K is just too good
@stevenkaye1625
@stevenkaye1625 2 роки тому
@@floatinggoose9197 Sorry, but this is simply not true. The consoles were never marketed in this way. 4K@60FPS is challenging for even the most expensive PC rigs still if you want high graphical fidelity in other areas. We also have games like Spider-Man which not only offer a 60FPS mode, but managed to still keep ray-tracing.
@Poptartsicles
@Poptartsicles 2 роки тому
It's kind of baffling that they dropped from 4K all the way to 1080p, AND dropped other settings, and they STILL couldn't hit a locked 60fps.
@Zerobob26
@Zerobob26 2 роки тому
Exactly. I think you're the only person who's mentioned that it still struggles to maintain 60fps, even at 1080p. Absolutely shocking. If this was an open world game I could understand, but it's just a linear 3rd person shooter.
@farat542
@farat542 2 роки тому
@@Zerobob26 Eidos need to work on optimizing the games more. The optimizations come at the last stage of development just before launch and it looks like they were stripped of the time needed to do that. But other than that, the game is awesome and i love it.
@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137
@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137 2 роки тому
Maybe the developers aren't experienced enough on ps5 or Xbox series especially series x it's should easily run this game at least on 1440p and 60fps
@RockDatDubstep
@RockDatDubstep 2 роки тому
Eidos needa pick up their optimization techniques. No way this game should have to compromise this much when Red Dead 2 chugs along just fine on a toaster like the Xbox One.
@S3mj0n
@S3mj0n 2 роки тому
That's consoles for you. Already outdated hardware. Thank God I play on PC.
@Starless85
@Starless85 2 роки тому
I wish games like this would have a mode where it would run in quality mode outside of combat and performance mode during combat. I’m not a techie so maybe not possible, but I’d definitely use it if it was.
@tails7227
@tails7227 2 роки тому
no no definitely not a false theory. I've played games that have definitely switched frame rates mid cutscenes to sustain the graphics aspect.
@tails7227
@tails7227 2 роки тому
so the possibility of a mode with that same sorta aspect wouldn't be too far fetched!
@lemmy154
@lemmy154 2 роки тому
Wtf?
@marcalbert674
@marcalbert674 Рік тому
That's what Dynamic res already does...in a way. But I see your point
@OmairKhan
@OmairKhan 10 місяців тому
Woah. Seems like Square took your idea and ran with it. Ff16 has this
@The_Wailing_Doom
@The_Wailing_Doom 2 роки тому
"If you buy a game at launch, you are paying the most amount of money for the worst version of a game." -TotalBiscuit
@godofchaoskhorne5043
@godofchaoskhorne5043 2 роки тому
RIP
@MisterReen
@MisterReen 2 роки тому
True
@LeoxDLUZ
@LeoxDLUZ 2 роки тому
This the deepest shit I've heard this year
@Cipher_Zone
@Cipher_Zone 2 роки тому
RIP TB. But to be fair, this game is awesome.
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 2 роки тому
Says it all about gaming in 2021. Companies sitting there laughing their ***** off. Going to be even funnier when people stop buying day 1 and the money drys up. Bye patch culture
@dickdanson
@dickdanson 2 роки тому
Odd that they had to go all the way down to 1080p to not even get a locked 60. Seems like poor optimization for the performance mode
@chalpua8802
@chalpua8802 2 роки тому
Yeah, to me the game is just super heavy. Even on PC I feel like the game runs well but isnt super optimized. Still, this is a good showing. We have seen games just as good looking run at 60fps at higher resolutions. Look at Ghostrunner on PS5. It runs at 4k 60fps with RT on. Thats super demanding.
@TheRockHardKeg
@TheRockHardKeg 2 роки тому
Agreed. I bought on Xbox assuming 60fps would still be a decent resolution. Returning and buying on PC instead.
@Aries0098
@Aries0098 2 роки тому
Yeah, I could say there are other games that seems on par with the visual quality but runs better.
@Demmrir
@Demmrir 2 роки тому
@@TheRockHardKeg It's one game and a bizarre outlier. By merits, 1440p is less than half the pixels of 4K, so no games should drop under 1440p for their 60fps mode. It's absolutely bizarre that they had to go 1080p and still fail to hit consistent 60fps.
@nemesisencounter2060
@nemesisencounter2060 2 роки тому
@@chalpua8802 hey ratchet and clank on ps5 with their 60 fps raytracing mode runs at 1440p and it looks amazing,this game is definitely not well optimized
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 2 роки тому
Something doesn’t add up as many other games have hit 60fps in their performance mode with out having to lower shadow resolution, foliage density, geometry draw in, texture quality, ambient occlusion all the while reducing the resolution by 75%! Also the fact the series s runs at 1080p 30fps which is very similar to last Gen clearly shows this game isn’t tapping into these consoles power
@emperor719
@emperor719 2 роки тому
Same goes for the pc port in some GPU it doesn't launch at all
@BAMozzy69
@BAMozzy69 2 роки тому
Its difficult to draw comparison with other games as you don't know how the games are built. Different games use different engines, have different priorities and design elements etc. For example, other games that target 60fps may have much more 'static' geometry, lower polygon counts etc. There are many reasons why two 'similar' style, similarly looking (to a 'gamer') games from two different developers/studio's may have very different performance profiles. I doubt this game is tapping into some of the 'next gen' features these consoles are capable of, but then I doubt many games are yet as they would of started development with 'Last' gen hardware in mind. For example, Returnal only runs at 1080/60 too yet there are numerous shooters that can do 4k/60 on PS5. At 60fps, each frame has to be calculated, rendered, texture filled, processed and sent to the TV in just 16.66ms (or 0.0166s - that's an incredibly short period of time - at 30fps, you have double that at 33.3ms. Twice as much time - and that's twice as much time for the GPU to spend on PQ, twice as much time for the CPU to calculate everything (AI, Physics etc), instruct the GPU what to draw, pull assets around etc. Different games will have different 'budgets' and different 'priorities' to budget for. If they target 60fps from the start for a specific 'hardware', they know that the CPU and GPU have a budget of 16.6ms so build the game and 'optimise' around that. If the game is built around 30fps to start with, they could have more 'expensive' elements (more complex AI, more Destruction, More Particles, more FX, Higher scene complexity/higher polygon counts etc). This game could be more CPU heavy and so dropping resolution to a quarter isn't enough to hit 60fps. Its not 'just' the GPU that has half the time to draw a frame, the CPU has half as much time too to do all the tasks the Developer sets it to do... The only thing you can really do is compare the 'SAME' game built by the same dev team with the same engine. Its not even fair to compare an UE4 game with another UE4 game by different studio's because they all have different priorities. Comparing GTSport with FM7 shows different priorities designing the 'same' type of game. Sony opt for a 'higher' polygon count on the Cars for example, but then the track side details are a bit lower. MS opted for Dynamic Weather too so that has a 'cost' to it but both manage a 'similar' resolution and performance - yet other games, like Driveclub was only 30fps and Project Cars struggled for a consistent 60fps...
@GameFanaTICK386
@GameFanaTICK386 2 роки тому
This is a true next-generation game. Other games were also last gen games. That's my thought process on it.
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 2 роки тому
@@BAMozzy69 get what your saying mate it just raises questions when it’s pretty much the only title running 1080p 60fps with other titles seemingly (even if you can’t see what the stress is on the hardware) doing more. The 1080p 30fps series s version which is a far more powerful system then the ps4 yet it’s running similar settings/performance tells me something not quite right and that’s before you consider it’s targeting last Gen with its render budgets first and scaling up
@neilranson4185
@neilranson4185 2 роки тому
@@GameFanaTICK386 it’s target was last Gen ps4 and Xbox one. Started development around 3 years ago for those systems with a view to cross Gen i believe.
@hyperbolebydefault4070
@hyperbolebydefault4070 2 роки тому
After playing Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart, this drop is visual fidelity for performance mode is pretty sad. Sounds like an engine problem + lazy optimization.
@craigharris41
@craigharris41 2 роки тому
Well Ratchet and Clank is a 1st party game
@Aaron-xr7oc
@Aaron-xr7oc 2 роки тому
@@craigharris41 for sure, definitely huge advantage, only having to optimize for playstation instead of a range of PC specs and 9 different consoles
@ThaMobstarr
@ThaMobstarr 2 роки тому
Yep as the others said, unfair comparison to compare it to a console exclusive title.
@Slimecrazy234
@Slimecrazy234 2 роки тому
The problem with these powerful consoles is that developers are getting lazy with optimization. 1/4 of the resolution for double the frame rate makes no sense.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 2 роки тому
1/4 the resolution and lower settings and doesn’t hold 60 fps
@BAMozzy69
@BAMozzy69 2 роки тому
Its all to do with 'frame' time. Just because the 'resolution' is 'reduced' down by 25%, doesn't mean that they can ''instantly' save 16.6ms of frame time. There are other aspects - (like Input response, AI, hit detection, Physics etc) that still need to be calculated and not dependent on resolution. That's before the CPU instructs the GPU what to draw. Yes dropping the resolution will save on the GPU render and Processing time but may not save '50%' of the Frame Time to ensure a stable 60fps. Another example - Rise of the Tomb Raider which runs at 4k/30 on XB1X but cannot hold a locked 60fps at 1080p because the CPU is the bottleneck that prevents it. I am sure this is more CPU intensive and unless you scale down the CPU load (reduce the AI, Physics, destruction, draw calls etc) to 'fit' within the frame-time budget, Reducing the Graphical load may not be enough alone to hit a consistent 60fps.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 2 роки тому
@@BAMozzy69 You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
@BAMozzy69
@BAMozzy69 2 роки тому
@@teddyholiday8038 If you are too dumb to understand, don't insult others as it makes you look even more stupid!!! Frame Time is VITAL. At 30fps, a 'new' frame has to be ready in 33.3ms to hit a consistent 30fps. Increasing the frame rate to 60fps drops the frame time to just 16.6ms. Dropping the resolution can save a 'chunk' of rendering time, but it doesn't change the amount of NPC's and AI, doesn't change the amount of objects on screen, the physics, the hit detection etc all of which still takes 'time' to process. Games don't rely on 'just' the GPU - the Graphics Processing unit - to run a game. The Central Processing Unit (CPU) is the 'brains' behind games and tells the GPU what to draw and where everything is meant to be, often used for AI, Physics etc, often used for decompression and audio too (especially on last gen consoles) all of that takes time too. Dropping the resolution alone - even if it is by 25%, doesn't mean that the entire frame time drops by 50%. The entire frame time is not 'just' render time and whilst you will save time by dropping the resolution to reduce the 'render' and post processing time, it may still not come in at 16.6ms to deliver a consistent 60fps. Dropping the resolution may save 8-15ms so each frame takes 25ms (so get 40fps) or 20ms (50fps) and only when the CPU is not being pushed, do you get under that 16.6ms to deliver 60fps game-play. You may have to reduce other aspects to reduce the CPU load - reduce draw distance for example so the CPU doesn't have to send so many draw calls, reduce AI or Physics, reduce Particles etc all often the load on the CPU. If that is 'too' much for you tiny brain to comprehend or understand, maybe stick to nursery rhymes until you grow up!!
@BAMozzy69
@BAMozzy69 2 роки тому
​@@ntz752 NO 4k is 4x 1080p. HD - 1920 x 1080p = 2073600 pixels 4k - 3840 x 2160p = 8294400 pixels 2073600 x 4 = 8294400 so 2160p is 4x larger or 1080p is a 'quarter' of the size. 1080 (or 2160) is the 'number' of vertical pixels so 1080p may only have 'half' the number of vertical pixels, but it also has 'half' the horizontal. You can fit 4 1920x1080p images inside a 3840x2160p resolution 2 vertically by 2 horizontally 2x2 = 4 How are some people so thick? don't they teach basic maths in school these days or have you not reached Junior school yet?
@volatilelyle5170
@volatilelyle5170 2 роки тому
Imagine being in the 4K era and having to settle for 1080p just to play at 60fps. I feel like 1440p should've been the baseline for the PS5 and XSX
@danielbyers6978
@danielbyers6978 2 роки тому
This game looks nothing like 1080p in surprsied they saying it is cause wow on 4k oled wow
@jjdutoit5890
@jjdutoit5890 2 роки тому
Kind of disappointed that it only hits 1080p 60fps on ps5. They could atleast have given us 1800p
@nickwiley9647
@nickwiley9647 2 роки тому
Yeah this game is very poorly optimized it seems. No reason this game should be struggling whatsoever
@UnjustifiedRecs
@UnjustifiedRecs 2 роки тому
We've been sold a lie with this gen, it's why I switched 'full time' to PC
@1meen1
@1meen1 2 роки тому
@@nickwiley9647 I wouldn't believe that, however it's Eidos Montreal, and the last Deus Ex did perform pretty bad
@JNEZ25
@JNEZ25 2 роки тому
I'm glad Marvel has been staying away from MCU designs as much as possible. As a major comic book reader, I love seeing original designs and also comic accurate designs (like the ones you unlock in the game) show up in these games.
@soundofreality
@soundofreality 2 роки тому
Sorry, but no. As a comic reader and a fan of the MCU, I'm pretty disappointed that they didn't invest in having the cast from the movie. They are the ones that made famous Guardians Of The Galaxy, and in a 3D world they're the ones to go, because they also are the only ones we saw outside the papers actually moving around and fighting outside our imagination. Also, IMO the cast for the movie was beyond perfect.
@A7XKoRnRocks1
@A7XKoRnRocks1 2 роки тому
@@soundofreality Sorry but this game makes me hate the movies, the movie is so basic compared to this game, which is far far superior.
@robertjames2277
@robertjames2277 2 роки тому
@@soundofreality how will it make any sense in having the mcu acters faces in a game that has nothingto do with the mcu
@robertjames2277
@robertjames2277 2 роки тому
I do not know why people complain about the mcu depictions of these characters not being in the game when you can literally wear the mcu costumes
@ogashion
@ogashion 2 роки тому
Yeah I like when they use original desings or the ones that comes from the comic books
@oscarmike90
@oscarmike90 2 роки тому
Series S had 60fps mode, but they silently removed it in patch. Optimization in this game is really poor.
@benturner3458
@benturner3458 2 роки тому
Yeah I noticed that. It's a bit out of order as they were getting on average 45 to 50fps. They could have locked it to 40fps or given the option as I'm sure players would have been happy with that
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 роки тому
@@benturner3458 40fps runs really smoothly on 120Hz TVs.
@athenian221
@athenian221 2 роки тому
@@MaxIronsThird I was wondering about that. Locking to 48 would feel smoother than 30.
@MaxIronsThird
@MaxIronsThird 2 роки тому
@@athenian221 Only in 144Hz screens
@karmca7125
@karmca7125 2 роки тому
No 60fps No money
@JustAnotherGamerUS
@JustAnotherGamerUS 2 роки тому
This is the only game I’ve come across so far where I may actually choose quality mode over performance mode on PS5/Series X.
@mistermidas11
@mistermidas11 2 роки тому
Lmao I was thinking the same thing. Literally every other game I've played since owning my PS5, I've chosen performance mode. But after seeing this video.... Definetly gonna be using quality mode
@saucyx4
@saucyx4 2 роки тому
Is it that bad? Lemme watch the video
@JustAnotherGamerUS
@JustAnotherGamerUS 2 роки тому
@@mistermidas11 I know, same here! I cannot believe how much of a difference there is in this game. I wonder if it’s telling for future game releases this gen..
@mistermidas11
@mistermidas11 2 роки тому
@@JustAnotherGamerUS Nah. I honestly think they were fuckin lazy lol. There's no reason for it to be THAT huge of a difference between the two modes. Hell I just spent over 100 hours playing the directors cut version of Death Stranding, and quality mode almost runs just as well in terms of fps as performance. And performance, almost LOOKS just as good as quality mode. They key....is optimisation. This game doesn't have it at all
@sawdust8691
@sawdust8691 2 роки тому
I have been playing it in quality on series x. It's one of the only games that I play in quality mode. But this game is honestly so good that I don't find myself caring too much about the performance options. I just love this game! But I bet they could get the resolution to 1440p at least if they optimized it more.
@UberNoodle
@UberNoodle 2 роки тому
The Dawn Engine was notorious with Mankind Divided for being incredibly resource demanding, on console of course, but also on PC. Why do you think they chose the Dawn Engine for this game rather than the in-house engine used for shadow of the Tomb Raider which has just as much (at least) fidelity and detail but is much more resource efficient and clearly much more scalable?
@Thicc_Boyo
@Thicc_Boyo 2 роки тому
Nowadays it's fairly easy to get decent performance on Mankind Divided with a decent PC, but just through sheer brute force.
@athenian221
@athenian221 2 роки тому
Wait, what?!? They also own the tomb raider engine? That game looks incredible. The last one, Shadow. Good question UberNoodle.
@SamuraiMerrick
@SamuraiMerrick 2 роки тому
I imagine it comes down to the team working on this game was probably most familiar with this engine, and another team uses the other engine.
@detectivemolasses1980
@detectivemolasses1980 2 роки тому
The foundation engine was borrowed from Crystal Dynamics, they just upgraded some components of that engine for shadow of the Tomb Raider
@jakedill1304
@jakedill1304 2 роки тому
I was just going to say I've never seen this engine do wide Open spaces before.. but the engine for shadow of the tomb raider definitely doesn't do wide Open spaces, so that might have been the kicker I have no idea what the avengers game was done on but I don't really care about anything about that game LOL so that's that I guess... But I'm also excited to see this engine used again because the tech was really cool, same with Shadow though honestly I mean both are incredibly technically quality, and while I'm pretty sure shadow of the tomb raider it's popularity as a benchmark is because it has a benchmark, it's funny how that works.. yeah that's kind of a question cuz I actually no I think about it I don't think either of them were very open at all, so it might just come down to which one was easier to work on for the game and since mankind divided was already in RPG form from the get-go which is seeming to be the more traditional adventure game formula at this point. K, I'm not going to read into the fact that maybe they were trying to update the engine for another deus ex game cuz we can't have nice things so it's just easier to put them out of your head all together.. Just throwing a hint out for any developer sees this could have benchmark in your game if you want to get free press, technically speaking you have to also have some sort of technology in it that The benchmark benefits in terms of the wider audience and hardware, and that's where Shadow really comes in because it had the RTX shadows, as well as a very quality graph of CPU render and GPU render.. all things that are very useful for players just saying, but you know Free press Shadow is still being used as a benchmark, it's been out for a long ass time but the name is still out there, just saying.. feel free.. also probably helps if it's an accurate benchmark, don't see Red Dead too much because it was a inaccurate benchmark, Very cool that mankind had a benchmark as well which is a fairly accurate benchmark for the game although we never really saw it used as much despite being DirectX 12, possibly because it wasn't as popular of a game.. So you might have to do a whole bunch of things to get that Free press.. but that still don't explain ashes of the singularity being used because that's a benchmark as a game LOL... Which in all fairness, still a better system than fucking 3D mark, rather have a game to play at least in addition to my benchmark.. just saying.
@samuelsander9101
@samuelsander9101 2 роки тому
great review tom :) really liked your way of presenting :)
@toast9965
@toast9965 2 роки тому
In certain games on console, but especially in this game it would be awesome if for cutscenes and exploration it would be in quality mode but in combat it could switch over to performance mode.
@tysonq7131
@tysonq7131 2 роки тому
I'd love to be a fly on the wall during the meeting between Crystal Dynamics and Squenix where they decided to make this single player with no MTX. "So, will you let us make a video game this time?" "...Fine."
@dwaynepereira9765
@dwaynepereira9765 2 роки тому
Crystal didn't make this game. It was only Eidos Montreal who developed it. (Squares other studio)
@MacikSeba
@MacikSeba 2 роки тому
More games should do Rachet and clank..which is 40fps in 120hz mode. Feels super smooth, low input delay and keeps 4k.. devs need to wake up.
@MisterReen
@MisterReen 2 роки тому
Downside it that this is just usable for player with a 120 hz tv. For Multiplattform title this won’t be their main priority, while for exclusives there is enough room for such special graphic modes.
@MacikSeba
@MacikSeba 2 роки тому
@@MisterReen 120hz is one of the consoles selling points... if someone is getting next gen console without planning on upgrading their display then that's on them. It's unfair that those who upgrade should be missing out.
@TANuclear
@TANuclear 2 роки тому
@@MisterReen just drop it to 30 for low hz displays and keep 40 as lowest standard. Problem solved
@hassosigbjoernson5738
@hassosigbjoernson5738 2 роки тому
@@MacikSeba "It's unfair that those who upgrade should be missing out" Consoles are mostly for TVs. Show me a 75 inch 4K OLED with 120 Hz that is broadly available since 2019 ... "120hz is one of the consoles selling points" ... not selling point, it's advertisement! The Reality is: Neither PS5 nor Series X are capable of constant 60fps in standard resolution (1440p, 4K) with the advertised Raytracing in most games! Dirt 5, Forza Horizon 5, Spiderman, Guardians ... not even close to 4K 60 (not to talk about RT). 120Hz means 120 fps. In this games the consoles deliver one fourth of it when you set "next gen graphics" as a standard (which is not 1080p). And 40 fps in Rachet and Clank still is very poor when the old game on ps4 had like 30 fps.
@MisterReen
@MisterReen 2 роки тому
@@hassosigbjoernson5738 ratchet and Clank Rift Apart was great on Ps5. A stunning showcase. The 60 Fps RT mode was the sweet spot. For the 4K resolution 40 Fps played out very nice as well.
@neotricksterzero143
@neotricksterzero143 2 роки тому
Both Versions can definitely benefit with a patch or two from what I saw in the videos here. It looks really nice though. I'll probably pick it up on the inevitable Black Friday Sale or Winter Sale as they're nearing the horizon.
@toribarron5700
@toribarron5700 2 роки тому
Yeah. This is worth the play. No need to pay full price if you can wait, but don’t forget about it.
@johnerocketz
@johnerocketz 2 роки тому
On sale now for $38.99 on Xbox 😃
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 2 роки тому
I picked it up for Black Friday for $25, the steal of the year considering it's just a month old, this game is awesome.
@Z4d0k
@Z4d0k 2 роки тому
Or play it for free on Game Pass this week :)
@Guernicaman
@Guernicaman 2 роки тому
Eidos Montreal would be wise to add a 3rd visual option - one where cinematics run at 4K 30 fpses, then drpps to 1080p 60 fpses during combat. That way, it plays quick & smooth when engaged in fast-paced action, while looking crisper & sharper during slower moments. Maybe call it "Dynamic Mode" or something. Maybe in a future patch?
@ClapperDan
@ClapperDan Рік тому
Gears 5 did this on Xbox One X and DF said the transitions were jarring. I think Battlefield Hardline also did the same and they said the same thing so I doubt it will be any better of a solution now than it was those years ago
@Eminar5
@Eminar5 2 роки тому
Would've really liked to see to see dynamic resolution for the performance mode at least outside of action sequences. That said the switching between performance and quality mode is very quick at least.
@mandrews6282
@mandrews6282 2 роки тому
Says something for the art design I guess. I would have never thought the game was 1080p on Performance Mode. Really great game though and I think it surprised a lot of people. Hopefully Eidos Montreal will push out some optimization patches as we go. I had a couple instances of getting artificially stuck in a corner, sometimes I’d get out and sometimes I’d have to reboot a checkpoint, and it did have a slight feeling that they pushed it out just too early. But nothing major and it runs better than a lot of games we’ve seen recently at release. Finished the game a couple days ago and had a blast. Hope we see more of this as well. Single player experience with no microtransactions, and even no multiplayer at launch. They went all in on the complete single player experience and it’s paid off.
@katzenjunge5869
@katzenjunge5869 2 роки тому
there should be a mode which stays at 4K/30 FPS for cutsenes and slow exploration but automatically switches to the 60 FPS mode in combat.
@andrewdenato8481
@andrewdenato8481 2 роки тому
YES
@bodacious12
@bodacious12 2 роки тому
I've always wondered why this isn't a thing for more games. Only a few do this, such as both splatoon games
@cool_and_nice
@cool_and_nice 2 роки тому
I keep doing this manually, would def help if they just made it a setting.
@aoikemono6414
@aoikemono6414 2 роки тому
I would stay in 30fps just because the game looks awkward at 60. It gets even more cartoony looking.
@ryanod9845
@ryanod9845 2 роки тому
Was just thinking of that exact thing while watching the video.
@thedonzo
@thedonzo 2 роки тому
Be great to get a updated video on this since they fixed the fps issues and added ray tracing.
@leviharris6944
@leviharris6944 2 роки тому
This game really surprised me. It was so under my radar and not something I would normally enjoy, but I'm currently loving it. Got it on Series X and I don't really notice the performance hits because everything else is so good.
@bigdb4755
@bigdb4755 2 роки тому
Same, bought on a whim. Gameplay is okay but story is great and hilarious with some choices. Music is awesome too.
@TheAilmam
@TheAilmam 2 роки тому
That's what you call gaming! You enjoy the game instead of being too technical about feetpersecond 😜
@DuplexCherry
@DuplexCherry 2 роки тому
Maybe you don't notice because of vrr lol
@leviharris6944
@leviharris6944 2 роки тому
@@DuplexCherry That's exactly it
@briengakaplan-b1550
@briengakaplan-b1550 2 роки тому
Just picked it up for $25 bucks over Black Friday, same here. Playing on Series X this is one the best games I've played this year. And it looks great even in performance mode.
@earthisfat6184
@earthisfat6184 2 роки тому
They need a mode in this game that uses quality mode when exploring and Performance mode when combat starts
@adrianalonso3891
@adrianalonso3891 2 роки тому
After see miles morales at 60 fps, 1440p and RT all in one... There is no excuses
@adrianalonso3891
@adrianalonso3891 2 роки тому
In an open word... Shame on EIdos
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 2 роки тому
@@adrianalonso3891 Even Avengers got Dynamic 4K 60fps with all that crazy wide destruction for Series X
@adrianalonso3891
@adrianalonso3891 2 роки тому
@@destroyermcw626 absolutely
@neilb1540
@neilb1540 2 роки тому
Nice video D.F. Thank you for mentioning VRR and how it improves game performance.
@Great_obnauticus26
@Great_obnauticus26 2 роки тому
I generally go for the performance mode when given the option, but this title played just fine in Quality mode and it looked absolutely stellar while doing so. The loss in fidelity on performance was really, really obvious between the two.
@XiLock_Alotx
@XiLock_Alotx 2 роки тому
After 34hrs completion time(I’m very methodical in my sp playthroughs), I can safely say that on a PS5, with a LG C1 OLED that quality is the way to go. I can’t speak for other displays. But on a OLED, quality mode really makes a massive difference. Either way, this game is a BANGER
@buttermilk5364
@buttermilk5364 2 роки тому
But but dEvS aRe lAzY. /s
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 2 роки тому
I got the Plat yesterday. It’s the first game this gen I’ve played on quality mode. Looks stunning. Performance mode is a blurry mess.
@lepricon87
@lepricon87 2 роки тому
I could never change the fps for a higher resolution. For me it looks great in performance mode.
@teddyholiday8038
@teddyholiday8038 2 роки тому
@@lepricon87 it’s a 1080p low quality blurry mess in performance mode and doesn’t stay at 60. Dips to 40
@LeandroCunha_85
@LeandroCunha_85 2 роки тому
The game looks fun, but the technical decisions are weird...
@gatewayrealtor664
@gatewayrealtor664 2 роки тому
It was, but you get used to it then it grows on you
@pjm8395_
@pjm8395_ 2 роки тому
Performance mode should have been 1440p with 60fps IMO
@supersamuel64
@supersamuel64 2 роки тому
I know there playing it safe with 1080p ps5 and series x and do more
@chuckmayhem1991
@chuckmayhem1991 2 роки тому
In a video that you’re watching them not hold 60, at 1080p with lower settings, you want 1440p60. Get a PC.
@pjm8395_
@pjm8395_ 2 роки тому
@@chuckmayhem1991 they should have optimised the game better but I don't want a PC for gaming, I have a ps5 and a series s for that, obviously PC is better but I don't want to pay like 4 grand just for PC gaming
@samdixon3719
@samdixon3719 2 роки тому
@@pjm8395_ my 5700xt runs it at 60 fps at 1800p and with amd sharpening it simply looks 4k, that pc cost me 900 bucks last year 4 grands would get you a nasa pc
@pjm8395_
@pjm8395_ 2 роки тому
@@samdixon3719 I was being flippant haha
@beastiny
@beastiny 2 роки тому
Love the side-wipe comparisons in this video
@casaldana
@casaldana 2 роки тому
Are you considering doing a follow up now that a new RT mode has been added? Would like to know if it's worth using over the quality mode.
@asheleydavies
@asheleydavies 2 роки тому
I'm not sure 1080p was necessary to hit 60fps. Perhaps not enough time to optimize?
@xilonqmb
@xilonqmb 2 роки тому
That seems likely.
@harshsharma03
@harshsharma03 2 роки тому
@Lov Mir wtf was that sentence.
@brokeashellgaming999
@brokeashellgaming999 2 роки тому
@Lov Mir if you think a ps5 or series x can outperform an rtx 3070 you are very very mistaken
@piotrszewczyk6176
@piotrszewczyk6176 2 роки тому
@@brokeashellgaming999 Xbox series X can outperform 3080 easily.
@brokeashellgaming999
@brokeashellgaming999 2 роки тому
@@piotrszewczyk6176 lol what have you been watching series x can't even outperform a 2080 super.
@OoJxShadow
@OoJxShadow 2 роки тому
For me it's unacceptable on gen 5 to have to choose between 4k 30 and 1080p kinda 60. There are already launched games that prove they can do better.
@adk4986
@adk4986 2 роки тому
Exactly the avengers game runs at 4k60 so wtf is this
@why8308
@why8308 2 роки тому
I think it’s acceptable on the PSX/N64/Saturn to have to run the game at 1080p for 60 FPS. Then again, I guess those 5th Gen consoles could to a little better for games such as 1958s “Tennis For Two”.
@rhysspeight7142
@rhysspeight7142 2 роки тому
it’s not gen 5, it’s gen 9
@kyo717
@kyo717 2 роки тому
Eidos Montreal sucks at optimizing. Just look at their track record.
@doguila
@doguila 2 роки тому
4k/60fps requires 8 times more processing than 1080p/30fps. It's not that simple
@XGARXS
@XGARXS 2 роки тому
OMG I love that digital foundry helps me to decide in which way to play. Thank you!!!!
@HRBSFrank
@HRBSFrank 2 роки тому
Yo Thomas! Thanks so much for grinding and getting this analysis out. Pixel counting is time-consuming and can be a bit of a bugger at times. You make it look easy! GG's! I'm doing a playthrough currently on Xbox Series X in performance mode and all my hardware (Capture Card, Monitor, recording software, and rendering software) when set to source indicate 1440p/60. Eidos latest update patch 1080p/60 performance mode or is there DLSS at play? Lastly, can you let peeps know it's okay to take down (4K/60) on their thumbnails doing YT reviews on console? (Jokes!) Performance mode has been phenomenal both visually and in fluidity. I am going to stick with performance mode. I think Eidos could do a 30/60 patch for performance mode. Combat 60fps and cutscenes 30fps. (Is that possible?) Thanks for the timely and well-done analysis!
@Jambobist
@Jambobist 2 роки тому
Seems like a much bigger difference between quality and performance modes than in most other games, wonder if they ran into a particular bottleneck when aiming for a higher frame rate?
@samclark3370
@samclark3370 2 роки тому
The bottleneck is they don’t know how to optimize. This is embarrassing. Runs worse than Cyberpunk.
@farat542
@farat542 2 роки тому
It's probably an optimization problem.
@weaverquest
@weaverquest 2 роки тому
Yes it doesn't make any sense that with quarter the resolution and further drops in graphical settings they barely could get double the frame-rate. Probably an engine issue.
@mr_world_wide
@mr_world_wide 2 роки тому
Bottleneck in the engine due to the density of the environments , that's what I'm guessing ,
@farat542
@farat542 2 роки тому
@@mr_world_wide That might be it. They are using the Dawn engine that is a heavily modified Glacier 2 engine that was used in Hitman i believe.
@jediisawesome
@jediisawesome 2 роки тому
I really hoped they pulled off 1440 at 60. I end up looking cinematics at 4k and playing at 1080. Fortunatlyy samsung does a good job upscaling for once. And maybe it s because i am getting used to 60, but 30 looks weird on this me compared to other games this year. Don t move the camera too much
@BLitzRunner77
@BLitzRunner77 2 роки тому
Ps5 doesn't support 1440p which is probably why it's not on Xbox either. A shame on Sony's part.
@jediisawesome
@jediisawesome 2 роки тому
@@BLitzRunner77 the XS logo is misleading on this game on my opinion. It is not truely optimised. Just adapted.
@ThibautMahringer
@ThibautMahringer 2 роки тому
@@BLitzRunner77 PS5 doesn't support 1440p output, but it could perfectly run a game at native 1440p and then upscale to 4K / downscale to 1080p
@chalpua8802
@chalpua8802 2 роки тому
@@BLitzRunner77 Not how this works.
@override7486
@override7486 2 роки тому
@@BLitzRunner77 LOL, you think game's changing entire console output resolution when in-game pixel count changes? There's such thing like scaling, down-sampling etc. Game is running whatever set/DSR and it's resized (up or downscaled) to screen resolution (4K I guess), which is fixed. It's not PS1 era with resolution/refresh changes with every game or scene. LUL
@tegancombatti7836
@tegancombatti7836 2 роки тому
Nice take... and yeah, I usually go with performance, but with this game and all it's visual creativity I might just have to run quality mode... Also, just a fyi, Sony does have the VRR for the ps5... but apparently they are waiting to do the update to enable it until the new Bravia line of TVs are released in December. Hopefully Eidos Montreal will have a patch ready then..
@afaqahmed43
@afaqahmed43 2 роки тому
i wonder why they didnt implement a dynamic resolution technique to address some of the quality compromises instead of just solely depending on taa at 1080p
@fishy9080
@fishy9080 2 роки тому
For anyone playing on a LG C1 you can use Smooth Movement - Motion clarity feature outside of game mode and it works pretty well in this game (on Series X you’ll need to disable VRR). I’ve been playing the first few hours on the 4K 30 option and has been great experience. Appears closer to 60 fps most the time when exploring / cinematics but input still feels like 30fps. Something to test out for yourself to see if it work for you👍🏻
@malazan6004
@malazan6004 2 роки тому
It dims the screen a lot
@singularonaut
@singularonaut 2 роки тому
Yeah, I enjoyed playing RDR2 on PS4 pro on Samsung au9000 at 4k with clear motion and outside game mode feeling like 60fps, but sometimes you can see artifacts, but it's better than juddering. Input lag goes from 10ms to 30ms still nice and much more pleasant than cloud gaming))
@ThibautMahringer
@ThibautMahringer 2 роки тому
Doesn't that introduce input lag and Motion artifacts?
@TANuclear
@TANuclear 2 роки тому
@@ThibautMahringer yes it’s not worth it
@fishy9080
@fishy9080 2 роки тому
@@malazan6004 whoops I meant to say the TruMotion feature - you are right Motion clarity feature is just Black frame insertion that will dim the screen. I do not use BFI on this game. I only use TruMotion - Smooth Movement setting
@adamkallin5160
@adamkallin5160 2 роки тому
"Last and definitely least, Peter Jason Quill" is a brilliant line in the context.
@TH-xj8ep
@TH-xj8ep 2 роки тому
Great video 👍 "blighted by 1 frame hitches" should be on a T-shirt 😁
@TheUnrealPirate
@TheUnrealPirate 2 роки тому
I can't help but feel maybe TAA has overdone it blurring on the performance mode. I hope devs find an alternative soon.
@asmodeusml
@asmodeusml 2 роки тому
To be fair the difference in image quality is not that dramatic when you play on a TV from a normal viewing distance.
@shap7296
@shap7296 2 роки тому
Yeah no cap I couldn’t tell it was running 1080p but still had frame drops below 20 in later chapters
@ahumeniy
@ahumeniy 2 роки тому
I've seen recently that people are buying gaming monitors for playing console games, in a desk probably too. so the "plying (console games) on a TV from a normal viewing distance" stuff is not always true anymore
@asmodeusml
@asmodeusml 2 роки тому
@@ahumeniy some people were doing that long before this generation. But they were and always will be a minority. As a proof of that look no further than Sony not supporting 1440p on their consoles.
@arij.hoffman9446
@arij.hoffman9446 2 роки тому
I'll definitely be playing the game at 4k 30. The graphics look amazing. I do have one question do you know when they will release the raytracing mode and at what resolution. Thanks.
@adrianramirez8516
@adrianramirez8516 2 роки тому
Ray tracing will def not be on 4K if it even offers it
@crazykenbei
@crazykenbei 2 роки тому
That raytracing mode sounding more and more like a PC exclusive going by the video analysis here lol.
@adrianramirez8516
@adrianramirez8516 2 роки тому
@@crazykenbei yeah consoles aren’t that strong to run 4K ray tracing. It’ll probably run at 2 FPS
@crazykenbei
@crazykenbei 2 роки тому
@@adrianramirez8516 yeah the company pretty much lied. They were saying it was going to be a 4k 30 fps, a 1440p 60 fps and a 1080p 60fps ray trace mode 😂
@arij.hoffman9446
@arij.hoffman9446 2 роки тому
@@adrianramirez8516 your absolutely right! It would probably be more like 1080p 30 with raytracing. That would suck.
@sixtyfps
@sixtyfps 2 роки тому
Great work on this, Thomas!
@AdamEthan
@AdamEthan 2 роки тому
I've been playing it for about 6 hours now on Performance on a 4k TV and honestly didn't even know it was 1080p. Still looks great.
@user-zh7th2ge1c
@user-zh7th2ge1c 2 роки тому
Id like to know if they can reach 40fps for 120hz screens like ratchet and clank did. It really alleviated the worst of what 30fps offers while maintaining great visuals.
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 2 роки тому
Why would you need 120hz for 40fps? A vsync thing? Is that what performance RT is in ratchet?
@zainmalik9666
@zainmalik9666 2 роки тому
@@Hijynx87 performance rt in ratchet is 1440p 60hz. The quality mode if you have a 120hz display is 40hz at a native 4k.
@andymontanez56
@andymontanez56 2 роки тому
I'll hope for patches to improve performance and optimization. When that happens, I'll definitely buy it
@AegonAD
@AegonAD 2 роки тому
Same . 1080p at 60ish is unacceptable at this point.
@duck7642
@duck7642 2 роки тому
games like this should let you choose the visual settings for gameplay itself and cinematics if they’re rendered in real time to let the combat fee smooth and let the cinematics feel cinematic obv.
@starkravingmad31
@starkravingmad31 2 роки тому
I honestly can't tell the quality differences between the two modes until they're specifically pointed out to me, but I definitely notice how much smoother performance mode runs.
@justinsimoneau5140
@justinsimoneau5140 2 роки тому
I can notice a bit but I notice the difference in fps much more
@d1jal
@d1jal 2 роки тому
I enjoyed this game way more than the movies. I didn’t have the weird yikes moment like I did with Avengers with the faces.
@DovahVokuna
@DovahVokuna 2 роки тому
This story was amazing. Really loved Gamora, starlord and drax. I really cared in the end about these characters. It really hit me on a personal level about loss and finding new family. Great game. Bravo And no microtransactions.👍
@ZiggyStardust85
@ZiggyStardust85 2 роки тому
Can you produce a video about the last gen versions as well? I use the performance mode during battles and the quality mode for the rest of the time.
@MrApplebee
@MrApplebee 2 роки тому
I'm curious to know how this game runs on last gen machines. If it's at 1080p 30 on the series s, then what it is running on the ps4/pro & the xbox one/x. This is one of the few times the modes within the game looks noticeably different. I heard that they're releasing a patch for ray tracing soon after launch.
@wh5027
@wh5027 2 роки тому
Funny enough, from what I hear, the game looks much better on Xbox One X than it does on the Series S. Funny all these years later, the One X is still a resolution powerhouse.
@BestGameLoadouts
@BestGameLoadouts 2 роки тому
The game looks very detailed and dense, optimizing for a 1440p 60 must have been in fact tough
@corncorny5963
@corncorny5963 2 роки тому
Perhaps but would have been nice to have it as an option even if it was unstable for those with vrr displays. This image quality drop is rough.
@TheSoulWithin7
@TheSoulWithin7 2 роки тому
The bugs and unstablity are definitely detailed
@oror3751
@oror3751 2 роки тому
Even Cyberpunk run on higher resolution on Series S at the 30 mode it only have and the Series S version is the most stable one on consoles
@MadX8
@MadX8 2 роки тому
There is no Series S version of Cyberpunk though. Waiting for that Next Gen patch. I don't mind 30fps if it's stable and i have good graphics (the Series S is only 299$ so i'm ok with that) but i do think the Series S is able to do better than that. I'm not overestimating it cause it's still far from the PS5/Series X but it can do magic if used properly
@MikeBisonTX
@MikeBisonTX 2 роки тому
There is no Series S version. You're running the Xbox One version at Xbox One settings on a significantly more capable machine. So yes it's understandable to get smoother gameplay.
@Aggrofool
@Aggrofool 2 роки тому
Cyberpunk is a last-gen game.
@khaixa_
@khaixa_ 2 роки тому
@@Aggrofool It was stuck in-between, and that's what ruined it.
@spicynachos2762
@spicynachos2762 2 роки тому
Not really tho it can go to 1440p but because of drs it's at 1080p or less
@CyborgSodaCollects
@CyborgSodaCollects 2 роки тому
This is kindve strange. The dawn engine that was used in Shadow of the Tomb Raider now runs at checkboard 4k 60 on current gen hardware. Seems like they have some serious work that needs to be done with this game. When I saw Starlord do the loading narrow space shimmy I knew this game was built with the 8th gen hardware in mind. I need a new Deus Ex Game with the updated dawn engine.
@Ddarke11
@Ddarke11 2 роки тому
02:16 The biggest achievement is getting that perfect 80s hair.
@Neothemod
@Neothemod 2 роки тому
everything i've heard about this game is that it's very good, making me think that it had just awful advertising. Very glad to see a good comic book game!
@MyNameIsCav
@MyNameIsCav 2 роки тому
Yeah I wasn't planning on picking this up at all based off of the pre-release coverage. Then the reviews hit, I watched SkillUp's video, and bought the game. Well worth it - it's a fantastic game and likely a GOTY contender imo
@cameronpatterson6295
@cameronpatterson6295 2 роки тому
For me it's not simply an advertising thing. I'm full to bursting of Marvel and if I weren't I think the MCU cast would have held greater appeal. I might check this out one day but I'm in no rush.
@Quinten_Shibusawa
@Quinten_Shibusawa 2 роки тому
I don't think it was necessarily the marketing. Think it was more the backlash Avengers got. People just didn't trust the game
@mrwalker6026
@mrwalker6026 2 роки тому
How's the exquisite writing and constant amazing dialogue between character's? Soo 👍
@crazykenbei
@crazykenbei 2 роки тому
After the avengers fiasco, people were wary lol.
@youssautomata
@youssautomata 2 роки тому
I was hoping for that sweet 1440/60 mode that we get on most games 😢
@wh5027
@wh5027 2 роки тому
1440 should be the starting point on the new machines, even Series S. We definitely shouldn't be dipping under 1440 on the Series X and PS5.
@toutagamon
@toutagamon 2 роки тому
Can you do a PC equivalent settings video and performance study? Also what about the Gen8 consoles?
@hotjoe-wl8gc
@hotjoe-wl8gc 2 роки тому
I am not sure if you are up to date. I got this game today with the Gamepass on Series X. Actually it has now three graphic modes: Quality, Performance and Raytraycing. For me personally interesting to know is what resolution has the Raytracing mode? Can you do a newer video of this game and explain the changes??
@p3wx4
@p3wx4 2 роки тому
PS5 and XSX not holding 1080p60 screams lack of optimization. There's no other way to put it.
@brunoleclerc4768
@brunoleclerc4768 2 роки тому
I’m very happy that devs include 60 fps modes in their games now, I hope it’s gonna stay this way for years to come.
@Dick_Valparaiso
@Dick_Valparaiso 2 роки тому
I look at it more like 60fps is standard since it's been the baseline for PC gaming for over a decade now. 30fps modes are strictly for showcasing visuals and fidelity. Current-gen boasts 120fps and has hit it in more games than I would've thought prior to the start of this gen. So, I can't see going back to 30 being normal from here on out.
@MMTT7sALd
@MMTT7sALd 2 роки тому
Most likely will
@gtavshortclips4740
@gtavshortclips4740 2 роки тому
I think more games will be 30fps in the coming years when graphics will be better
@MMTT7sALd
@MMTT7sALd 2 роки тому
@@gtavshortclips4740 it'll most likely just be what it is now they'll give you the option performance or quality mode
@scottd7222
@scottd7222 2 роки тому
@@gtavshortclips4740 why though
@mattlandry
@mattlandry 2 роки тому
There must be some underlying engine issue if they can barely get double the framerate at a quarter of the pixel count plus other significant cutbacks
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182
@smittyvanjagermanjenson182 2 роки тому
Seriously, on pc when you drop 4k to 1440p it typically doubles frames instantly. When you drop to 1080p from 1440p that's when you see way less of a frame increase, but it still gives a little more. Bad optimization is bad.
@aaronwallis5545
@aaronwallis5545 2 роки тому
I had pop ins from both DOF and textures after cut scenes on my ps5, I'm hoping from patches, i played on quality but was hugely disappointed it didn't have RT. As it looks 100 times better on PC.
@richardtucker5938
@richardtucker5938 2 роки тому
I do wonder sometimes, if DF would start to overtly do both full tech and full game reviews. I can feel them combining light reviewing into the tech videos. But i'm sure Tom would like to just review the games themselves too.
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 2 роки тому
Tech info in game reviews should be mandatory. How can massive frame rate drops not affect gameplay for example? Or crashing? So why doesn't IGN include it. Simple. A "review" on IGN ( and others ) is nothing more than an advert. Companies know full well the average consumer will see the review first and then make the purchase. Wouldn't want the little technical details getting in the way would we?
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 2 роки тому
@@robsmall6466 well it has its ups and downs. I think df fawn over games like RE8 because the tech is good but the game was extremely underwhelming for me.
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 2 роки тому
@@robsmall6466 I don't think console gamers are as sensitive to it as much as PC gamers are. Some are,most don't care. At least not enough to stay away from consoles. And how much do you think that should affect the score in the era of performance paches. If game had massive drops,more often than not,I am sure reviewers would mention it.
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 2 роки тому
@@GameslordXY But they are NOT mentioning it. Check out IGN's 7 min review of Guardians or Nintendo Life's review of Pillars of Eternity. Far too many are not mentioning it. I wonder why? Maybe because they are not "reviews" but glorified paid for adverts
@TheRockHardKeg
@TheRockHardKeg 2 роки тому
@@robsmall6466 dude chill out. They don’t mention it since not everyone cares about that stuff or even has the tools to measure it objectively like DF does. Let’s stop with the “X are sellouts” just because they don’t produce the content you want.
@ThEJaviViP
@ThEJaviViP 2 роки тому
loving this game.. i normally don't do quality mode at 30 fps but the amazing visuals make it bearable.
@JanusNygaard
@JanusNygaard 2 роки тому
Awesome video as allways. Any plan on testing it for Old gen hardware ??
@cazzosso
@cazzosso 2 роки тому
Will you analyze new ray-tracing mode?
@fancycavegaming620
@fancycavegaming620 2 роки тому
Too bad they couldn't make an on-the-fly resolution toggle right from the controller to just turn on 60 fps whenever you want, presumably during a fight.
@stingymcduck5450
@stingymcduck5450 2 роки тому
No game, on either PC or console, lets you do that. Oh wait, Doom on MS-DOS lets you do it when you hit F5.
@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll
@lllULTIMATEMASTERlll 2 роки тому
Some might say that this is asking too much, but I actually like this idea a lot.
@concinnus
@concinnus 2 роки тому
Ideally they could have separate settings for fights vs the rest so you could just set them separately and forget it. Plenty of 60fps games have 30fps realtime cutscenes.
@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus 2 роки тому
Wish I knew how to measure frame rate on consoles. I have an XSX but I also have a launch Xbox One and I'm really curious to see how bad it runs on that.
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 2 роки тому
Pretty easy to measure frame rate. You'll be able to see and feel it chugging. Xbox One and PS4 should have been included. But that would of been too easy really wouldn't it
@baroncalamityplus
@baroncalamityplus 2 роки тому
@@robsmall6466 That's not a measurement. Yes I can see a game chug and guess its 20 fps or lower but I know the number. I tried plugging the X1 into a capture device and use OBS to get a frame rate but it was a static 30 despite the frame rate was all over the place.
@robsmall6466
@robsmall6466 2 роки тому
@@baroncalamityplus Mine was more a comment on the quality of releases rather than a realistic way to record frame rate comment. Sounds like an uncapped framerate maybe. I'd rather have a consistent 30fps than something bouncing about depending what's going on. Can't see why we can't have separate reviews. A minute or two just to say how the game is technically on PS4 Base, Pro or Xbox One
@wretchedslippage3255
@wretchedslippage3255 2 роки тому
Starlords Skeltonwitch style back patch is my favourite thing. Fuckin love that band
@mortenshs
@mortenshs 2 роки тому
Great video. Are there ray tracing on PS5/Series X or is it only for PC?
@Aristowi
@Aristowi 2 роки тому
The difference between quality and performance modes is huge, however I can adjust to lower quality visuals and still be impressed but I can never get used to low framerate and stuttering camera movement. 1080p seems surprisingly low when performance mode in other games go much higher but at least we have the option. 4K 30fps looks good for screenshots but in motion it ends up being worse, all that stutter makes it hard to appreciate the high res textures anyway and trying to aim that way is no fun, which is the main concern for me: I rather a more fun game than a more impressive one, the sacrifice was pretty intense, especially comparing to what Insomniac did with Ratchet and Spider-Man with the Ray Tracing 60 fps modes.
@michaelzomsuv3631
@michaelzomsuv3631 2 роки тому
This isn't 1080p at all. This looks like 900p if not 720p lmao.
@BuffTaco
@BuffTaco 2 роки тому
Performance tanks on long playthroughs especially at the end of the game on performance mode on series x it looked like a slideshow a restart fixed it
@franciscofarias6385
@franciscofarias6385 2 роки тому
That's strange, it seems like there's a memory leak somewhere maybe? If this is the case patches should fix it
@Ozzyozzysheesh
@Ozzyozzysheesh 2 роки тому
How often should I restart ?
@malazan6004
@malazan6004 2 роки тому
Yikes
@kotic33
@kotic33 2 роки тому
@@franciscofarias6385 there was a patch recently, at least on steam, which addressed memory leak specifically
@vectoralphaAI
@vectoralphaAI 2 роки тому
@@franciscofarias6385 someone didn't null a pointer somewhere.
@jjsavior
@jjsavior 2 роки тому
You guys think you can speed up your tech reviews to come out BEFORE the game is released. That way we know when to hold back on buying a game? I am enjoying the game, but would have enjoyed it more had I known to wait a month or two for patches. Also anyone else notice a faded look whenever there is a white light source in the game. I've also noticed this in some gameplay videos.
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 2 роки тому
Obviously that's not always possible thanks to time, not getting the code, not having the lastest patch etc. If you're that worried about how about you don't buy a game you're unsure about day 1 and wait 'til you've seen what you needed to see before you buy it? Also, most tech reviews would be covered by the same embargo that actual game reviews are, so if the embargo is launch day they couldn't post it earlier even if they'd got it done.
@JanPaul58
@JanPaul58 2 роки тому
This games looks amazing! I was waiting for this. Thanks for reviewing. Was hoping for a higher resolution in performance mode. This seems more like a xbox one x and ps4 pro trade off. Where there was a 1080p60 mode and a 4k30 mode for most of the supported games. Hope this wil not become a trend for the series x and ps5.
@MoonshineBeforeSunshine
@MoonshineBeforeSunshine 2 роки тому
So, we get PS4 Pro's typical visual & performance settings, but for PS5 & Xbox S X. These settings are not acceptable for the current-gen consoles which have now been around for a year.
@olivera4937
@olivera4937 2 роки тому
Don't buy games from lazy devs. It's simple. This was EXTREMELY poorly optimized.
@stephenaguiniga7960
@stephenaguiniga7960 Рік тому
I still thought the game looked dope in performance mode. But I agree I’m surprised they had to drop it by so much😊
@edulinares7152
@edulinares7152 2 роки тому
Wow, looks pretty clear to me that the 60fps mode was not properly optimized at all, the priority went entirely to 4k mode.
@jesse2535
@jesse2535 2 роки тому
I'm on a 1080p monitor and honestly I can barely notice the difference while the image isn't zoomed in. It's very passable. But I can imagine that wouldn't be the same on an lcd 4k display...
@zanychelly
@zanychelly 2 роки тому
I am having a blast with game. The jokes are pretty good. Really recommend it. Ps: 4:57 - I can’t believe you did that to Groot.
@adriank8792
@adriank8792 2 роки тому
It's such a great game. It has some technical difficulties but i'm willing to look past them because the game is so much fun
@sillygoose6253
@sillygoose6253 9 місяців тому
The game's framerate tanks from chapter 10 onward like they only did QA work for half the game. It's still like this two years later, I'm surprised this wasn't brought up in the initial testing.
@wg8561
@wg8561 2 роки тому
I've been playing almost all of the game in quality mode on XSX. It just looks way better, it's not even close.on the later levels there is some slow down so I switch to performance when needed. The game is fantastic but definitely needs a patch for the later levels.
@raffal81
@raffal81 2 роки тому
The only option is not to buy the game, optimizing is a joke. PS5 and XSX don't keep frame rates even at 1080p.
@neonbible08
@neonbible08 2 роки тому
Miles morales gets 60 with ray tracing
@ThibautMahringer
@ThibautMahringer 2 роки тому
@@neonbible08 Insomniac is very very talented, that's why you can get a dynamic res above 1080p with ray tracing and 60 fps
@thatryeguy6145
@thatryeguy6145 2 роки тому
After hearing the new guy do his first video yesterday, I appreciate Tom's voice and delivery that much more.
@LeoxDLUZ
@LeoxDLUZ 2 роки тому
It was his first day, y'all have no chill lol
@Kinggoken
@Kinggoken 2 роки тому
The new guy needs more practice
@youtindia
@youtindia 2 роки тому
It was okay, certainly not bad. With some time he will be good.
@ReGo001
@ReGo001 2 роки тому
Lots of small graphical, audio and stuttering issues with this title, but I still loved playing through it.
@bde110790
@bde110790 2 роки тому
Great tech breakdown as always. I only listened to the video though, as i want to experience all the eye candy as unspoiled as possible lol.
@mwdavis77
@mwdavis77 2 роки тому
I'm going to finish a couple other games and then come back to this one. Hopefully it will be patched for better performance by then.
@turkeyleg1
@turkeyleg1 2 роки тому
Didn't ask
@qwaszxe
@qwaszxe 2 роки тому
@@turkeyleg1 🤣🤣🤣
@David01984
@David01984 2 роки тому
So did anyone notice the silent performance patch they updated on Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity? I've noticed they tweaked the graphics as well. I've been playing it this morning with the new DLC patch and wow they improved the performance like crazy. I haven't noticed any FPS dips in single player anymore and the graphics look different in a good way I also played in co-op and noticed it doesn't lag as bad with split screen in the Hyrule field. I'm curious what was fixed or patched.
@David01984
@David01984 2 роки тому
Ver. 1.3.0 (Released October 26, 2021) Made adjustments in preparation for Expansion Pass Wave 2: Guardian of Remembrance. Addressed several issues, including a rare case that prevented game progress. Doesn't specify what was patched but hopefully it was that FPS laggy mess. I haven't had issues playing in Hyrule field.
@shabberto
@shabberto 2 роки тому
Great game just played it at 30fps ray tracing on ps5. Apart from the quirks, bugs and lack of polish you mentioned it's a very very solid game. A matter of taste but the QTEs at pivotal moment felt gratuitous and immersion breaking but overall it was a splendid experience that I kept coming back to.
@Visuwyg
@Visuwyg 2 роки тому
Can you get Alex onto the PC version and recommend his trademark optimized settings? I'm struggling.
@MikeBisonTX
@MikeBisonTX 2 роки тому
Video hasn't even been up for a full minute. Brand slaves in the comments : "Another win for my console"
@kaozspartan9289
@kaozspartan9289 2 роки тому
Any other situation. PC Elitist: PC Master race
@chesron456
@chesron456 2 роки тому
No one wins with 1080p modes
@MikeBisonTX
@MikeBisonTX 2 роки тому
@@chesron456 Agreed. 1080/60 for next-gen is sub-par. Should be 1440 at least. Or some type of dynamic in that ballpark.
@LRon-ef7ni
@LRon-ef7ni 2 роки тому
I’m finding that I’m picking the quality modes in games nowadays. Especially when there’s so much density that’s sacrificed
@sotovargasluiseduardo2129
@sotovargasluiseduardo2129 Рік тому
9:46 even on PC this section right here made my PC drop from a solid 60fps (locked) to around 45 FPS when staring at the distance, what is insane is that even at the lowest settings, staring in that direction still caused a drop, while the rest of the game ran at a smooth 60 fps, I’m guessing that particular section was very poorly optimised
@zhaf
@zhaf 2 роки тому
Will you be doing a voice on PC settings as well?
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