Differences between HDMI 2.1 and Thunderbolt 3/4: Some folks in the comments had raised this point, so i decided to look into it and find the reasons for why Thunderbolt exists and why some folks swear by it. HDMI: - primarily audio/video transmission - HDMI 2.1 - upto 40/48Gbps (one-way), audio return requires less bandwidth. Thunderbolt: - A/V, data and power transmission - TB 3/4 - 40 Gbps, - upto 100W USB PD (power delivery) - upto 10Gbps Ethernet - can support external GPU's (Windows laptops) Thunderbolt 4 specific: - video signal to 2 4k displays (daisy chain), or 1 8k - when laptop connected to dock, should be able to wake-from-sleep via dock-connected keyboard/mouse Apparently TB3 cables needed to guarantee 40Gbps (bi-directionally) for only 0.5m, and TB4 certification required 40Gbps for at least 2m. Considering that TB3 came out in 2015 and TB4 in 2020, there seems to be quite some technical challenge in achieving TB4 standards. So if the user's only concern is an external display, an OLED TV (via HDMI) may make more sense than a monitor. What Apple is trying to do (with the Studio monitor) is to create an extension of the computer with a single cable. No turning on the monitor, no secondary power cables for laptops, no worries of how webcam and mic data can be transmitted back to the computer etc. Hope this helps!!

Man, they didn’t chech LTT videos. They were testing thunberbolt via fiber connection. It works great and also for like 10+ meters

Did I miss when he explained why it’s so expensive?

Good. I want them to keep raising prices.

Will you benefit from a USB4/Thunderbolt4 cable that can transfer 40 Gbps at 15 feet, instead of the 6 feet?

If one were to upload videos recorded on iPhone 15PM and GoPro to their MacBook Pro, will this cable still work with the iPhone 15PM? I understand the 15 Pro's use just regular USBC.. but will this cable still work with the iPhone 15 pro max?

Thunderbolt 3 cable is fully compatible with thunderbolt 4 ports. No speed differences between Apple TB3 and TB4. Some PCs only implemented half speed TB3 on their ports. So an optical TB3 cable will work without issues or speed degradation on apple TB4 port.

I have used thunderbolt 2 2m cable for quite sometimes, and use it daisy chain to others imac for data transfer, And it’s fasttt

corning still makes optical TB3 cables, they re available on amazon

Thank you for this information, I always ponder why the asking price for products such as this are so expensive. It makes you realize the very real necessity that funds are to manage and maintain clean and clear-cut tech such as laptops

I think that Corning or others still make longer optical TB 3 cables. But the pricing makes these almost seem free.

Just Apple doing Apple things hahaha

2:45 actually the mac studios fans are quiet, the loud part is the power supply. It's made by I think 4 different manufacturers and I've experienced many having very audible coil whine.

They do make Optical TB3/TB4 cables... I have several of the 150ft ones

i heard the black ones were a bit longer

Can you use usb c on thunderbolt 4 MacBooks?

I am sure you can use the long Tether Tools Cable instead. Those are pretty good.

Linus solved this problem bc he uses only thunderbolt so he can keep his PC in another room

Nice cable but I don't notice any provisions for strain relief. Didn't, however, check their website.

This doesn't really answer the question though, Apple's 1.8m cable is twice as expensive as the competitions 2m cable. For the 3m version, I get it, they have a monopoly atm. But since it is out of spec, what guarantees do you have that it will work with anything but Apple products?

Here’s why they are expensive: Pure Unadulterated Greed, and you’re stupid enough to buy it.

150.00 for a cord? WTF

TB above 0.8m needs an ACTIVE cable. They have chips and other components. Thats why they are more expensive

You can still get optical TB3 cables that are quite long

A apple stamp and a thunderbolt stamp, that's surely expensive

Lew, your hat is off-kilter.

They’re magic, and worth every penny

The Studio Display has only Thunderbolt 3 port. The specs don’t say if you are getting an Thunderbolt 3 or 4 cable. My bet it will be an Thunderbolt 3 Cable.

I wouldn't be surprised if in the next two console generations, consoles and TVs may use TB4 given how small it is. Maybe not to transmit the 40GBit date transmission, but video/sound and power. Who knows. I never thought I would use apps on my phone to order food 12years ago.

ههههههههههههههه 1.48 From laughing so much, I had a stomach ache

Apple needs to bring the headphone jack back.

Did he say a "free" one meter cable? 🤣🤣🤣

Hope they are good…

I'm just patiently waiting for the moment when apple will be selling the Screws separately. (For environmental reasons of course)

They do make thunderbolt 3 optical cables

Time for another Arthouse UnboxTherapy Apple Unboxing Video

$129 for a 1m cable... the world has seriously lost their damn minds.

I think that the real motivation for all apple costs are users

Thunderbolt 3/4 cables over 0.8M (I think) are all gonna be kinda pricey if they're real-deal since they've got active retiming circuitry to support the length. Of course Cable Matters are able to sell 2M/3M Intel certified TB4 cables much cheaper than Apple can because Apple.

1:48 Drum rolls.

Sweet - I can run 3m to a dock and then another 3m to a monitor?

So apparently CableMatters launched a 3-meter long TB4 cable that does everything Apple cable does. Intel certified, 100w charging, usb4, everything. For $65. The monopoly was short-lived, thank god.

Damn that chair got folded

For me just i wish that in Thunderbolt ports can Enter My USB cable without Issues and be compatible. They fancy stuffs i left to Apple XD

I figured out how to put a Pyrex measuring cup, a handful of pennies and a sock on a baking sheet and stick it in the oven; if I time it just right, I get a Thunderbolt-4 Pro cable; trouble is, it's only 1.7 meters.

plugable TB4 cable soo much cheaper and work fine.

Just gonna wait for Amazon Basics versions like everything else lol.

I can't find any 3 meters tunderbolt4 cable, but a 2 meters one costs 50 dollars on Amazon. So yes, long thunderbolt 4 cables are expensive, but these apple ones have only one thing of special: They are super expensive.

They'll be sellig the packaging at this rate

1000ft long , Palladium wrapped wires

1.8m is slightly less than 6 feet not long at all

IQ tax

good luck buying one off amazon, you have literally no idea if you getting a cable that does what it says it does.

It's so apple can line them pockets with trillion dollar bills, yo.

They're made by Slave laber, the high cost ones. That cost 1 penny more at the sweatshop per day.

Wow it is expensive, daym 😅 ouch in the wallet.

Is that Apple going USB-C?

Maxonar TB4 cable soo much cheaper and work well!

A high quality Thunderbolt 3 cable is a Thunderbolt 4 cable. "Thunderbolt 4" is just as stupid as the new USB naming system. Not much difference between 3 and 4, both 40Gbps.

I already know everyone is going to laugh at me but here goes. I wanted a longer cable for my Studio Display. The one Apple provides is ridiculously short (probably to spur you on to upgrade). I bought a six foot $25 TB4 cable off Amazon. But that still wasn't long enough. I saw Apple is the only one who makes them longer so I let them commit a hate crime against my wallet and I got the 3 meter version. Honestly............I don't think it's placebo here...........I think the image quality has improved. Yes, it's all the same spec, the same 1's and O's but there can still be differences in signal strength, shielding, etc. It might still be a ripoff but I do think it's better.

Linus made a video on 50 m thunderbolt cable

Not trying to be an ass but this video doesn't explain why Thunderbolt 4 cables are so expensive? I've watched it twice.

Ill just wait till the good Chinese knock offs come out 🤣

Thunderbolt cables are expensive but even 3m isn't enough for a sit/stand table with monitor arm.

Good engineering costs money. On my legacy TV set up (AV stack, TV/video/sky/free view box/hdr) I have an expensive 12m scart cable used for a 1 metre run, but it does everything. All pins are wired and have individual shielding and shielding around the whole bundle. 20 pins all wired, with grounded individual shielding, no interference with audio cables (hi-fi) that run close in from my audio stack (playstation5/amp/2 tape decks/5 disk cd/dvd multichanger). Will admit that apple will make you pay the apple tax, doubling or trebeling the price. But good engineering costs!

I bought a short Thunderbolt 4 cable for 40 bucks. This price for 1.8 meter is not outrageous.

Corning makes thunderbolt 3 cables up to 50 meters.

Just wait until another company produces it for half the price

In Brazil this cable cost US$357. HUEHUEHUEBRBRBRBR

Special until your cat eats it.🐈‍⬛

For a cable?

You mean USB C Cables lol

Tax will get you over 2k

Ima stick to my 10ft 15$ usbc works just as good if not better cause i can buy 10 of them for the price of one apple

you didn't answer the question why the cables are really so special and why they are so expensive.

A single cable to handle simultaneous data transfer, video output, Ethernet, AND power delivery...yeah it's going to cost a lot. It definitely cleans up the cable clutter. It's not for everyone. Razer is coming out with a 2M TB4 cable for $109. It's being sent to me for review. Unfortunately, I don't have the set up to use it's full potential. It's going to be underused to provide PD from my USB C dock to my Dynabook laptop at work...but I am going to enjoy less cables on my desk... I'm already using a Nomad Goods 1.5M cable that can handle 100W and USBC 3.2 speeds to power my dock using a 65W Charger from VOLTME.

1 meter = 3.28084 feet

It's apple will sell for more

Oh the iFanBoy couldn't justify the price not only by saying these cables are special when the same time there are thunderbolt 4 cables with the same specs in 1/3 of the price. How much apple is paying you.

Proprietary cables go way back with Apple. Buy Apple and expect to pay extra for your supposedly "exclusive" experience.

td;dr cuz its Apple, duuh

It’s not like people have to buy everything Apple, people love complaining and hating… lol

They're expensive because Intel has a monopoly on it and can charge whatever they want for the licensing and that money gotta come from somewhere.

1.8 meters is not long???!! i think youll find most women disagree

To summarize, it’s because the Gas prices are going up.

I present you the thunderbolt cable adapter by apple...only $569

Special with China making them for 1 dollar and apple selling them 4 $200 😂😂😂

It's hilarious how he's always whining about Apple prices when he's walking around with a $2000 Samsung phone and selling $50 phone cases🤣

All they nees to do is add Displayport

Apple monitors have to be the dumbest thing on the planet (and I'm an Apple fan). Get a high refresh rate HDR 4k monitor for like $400

I really respect you guys,for pointing on this,,I'm sorry,,are you Americans

Unless it's a collectable, everything goes down in price. I remember when Auxiliary cables were $50........now you can buy them for $5 from a gas station lol.

It not especial it's apple money

I bought a 10 foot usb c thunderbolt to usb c thunderbolt cable for my M1 iPad Pro on Amazon for a fraction of the price and it braided too

For me $129 for a thunderbolt 4 cable is cheap…

did i miss it or did he not actually give a reason for them being so expensive? all he said was that they are "special". basically, if u spend you money on Apple anything, you're a sucker.

1.8 meters is a fair price honetsly lower than what I was expecting. Thunderbolt 4 requires a very low noise high quality cable that degrades the longer it is.

I'm just imagining if Apple had invented the internet and how much we would be paying for it now, and they wouldn't call it 5G, but some weird acronym to justify their prices 😂😂

Thunderbolt 4 has the same specs as thunderbolt 3 so these are overpriced as fuck considering you can get 5m cables for $50

Because they like to waste money personally so need to charge stupid amounts of money for their products.