How to Choose The Correct Bike Size
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ΠΠ΅Π½Ρ ΡΠΎΠΌΡChoosing the right sized road bike is essential. James and Chris explain how to chose the right frame size as well as how subtle changes to parts of your bike can affect the way it feels and performs when you're cycling.
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Frame size, stack and reach as well as adjustment to the saddle and handlebars all have an impact on how a bike feels and handles. This video helps shed some light on all of these things to help you make the best decision when deciding what size is best for you.
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@andylock3247 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Just pick the best colour, job done!
@kevinl6231 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Actually there were 2 gravel bikes I was considering, both CO-OPs. I could have done with the $1000 but it came only in black. I bought the $1500 one because its a nice off white with orange stripes; will enjoy the upgraded features as a resultπ.
@aliffluffy4111 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice said well said
@bhuntaali7392 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Fuckkk
@robtyman4281 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
lol if only it were that simple. Unless you want to get back problems, then getting a bike that fits you properly is imperative.
@thedot4915 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This actually made my day hahahaha π€£π€£
@buckroger6456 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I thought the correct size was which ever one looks the coolest.
@jirdesteva 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And I thought I was confused about bike sizing before watching this video ?! :P
@AndreGomes1987 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yea this didn't help at all
@davidlangston6927 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Still donβt have an easy answer for the novice rider. Sounds like you just pay the money and have fit. Of course that means you have to trust they what they are doing ?
@johna527 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Bike size has been a U shaped curve for me - when I started, I went for a smaller size because I felt too stretched on a larger size. Then, as I did more cycling, I needed a larger size to be comfortable. Now, as arthritis sets in, I went back to the smaller size and more upright position. Which is why for new cyclists I suggest buying a second hand bike, so when you decide it's the wrong size you don't lose too much money due to depreciation!
@billionmunati3972 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
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@Miguel_Pratz Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you for this comment
@dennishaughton4554 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I am a runner. Me knees have taken a serious beating over the yrs. So @ this pont I'm contemplating on crossing over to cycling. I had no idea how big cycling really was. & yeah how expensive & technical it can get to purchase the right bike for u. This video certainly helped in my search of understanding the cycling world.. thank u
@danielbum912 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Buy two sizes too small β
Seatpost extended all the way β
150 mm stem β
You now look like a pro β
@naldyano 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Daniel 150mm stem π
@Esperluet 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
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@dan_lazaro 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Some tryhard "pros" look like Midosuji Akira from that one sports show. Look it up lol.
@alpenjon 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@dan_lazaro Hehe I did, thanks :P
@lordalfa600 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@dan_lazaro Kee Mo
@nautastro1503 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I got 2 size up with long wheelbase hybrid... everything is adjustable in wide range, after some custom parts added. Currently planning to install pedals lowering joints to get better pull and also to lower my seat all the way down , that way my feet be able to touch the ground when I stop. I like my setup . With big tires it looks more like a motorcycle to me.)) Sweet big bike
@angeloparagoso2793 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Now i know the differences... I love to go back in cycling after i saw this video... Thanks for the info...
@annettefournier9655 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I need the T-REX size. Inflexible back and short arms.
@prestachuck2867 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There are a lot of custom builders who can help you out. Still, see an experienced and competent bike fit tech before you waste money on the wrong bike.
@cloroxbleach3936 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
then get mtbπ
@_Rustodian 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think the T-Rex size is a unicycle!
@annettefournier9655 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@_Rustodian then I'm in trouble π€£
@annettefournier9655 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@cloroxbleach3936 I have one, full suspension, i call it the Cadillac and the road bike The Porsche. Lol
@luckymouse1988 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When your bike is so light, you can keep it from falling down by placing a bidon next to it.
@starving_drummer 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Could you please make a video (or even a small series) about how road bike frames evolved through the histroy? How frame geometries changed and why? What kinds of fits were preferred by pro cyclists historically and why and by whom those preferences changed in time? (ie: Old steel frames always had top tubes parallel to the ground, nowadays they're mostly sloped. Or saddles are adjusted much higher than before, etc.) I couldn't find a comprehensive well made video on that subject, so I would really appreciate if you could make one. Keep up the good work.
@michaellynn9763 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
At 6 feet 3 with a 94cm inseam, I settled on a proportional 59cm Viking (I now ride something a little more sophisticated) which seemed to fit perfectly actually, though higher end bikes arenβt always proportional. Always aim for a size that allows you to get an efficient pedal stroke, otherwise your fitness is going to be impacted, unless your riding for leisure only. A smaller frame (assuming youβve got the seat at the correct height) will produce a more aggressive position, a larger frame size with the same saddle height will give your a more comfortable position - assuming there isnβt much difference in the top tube length, which based on charts, experts and forums, increases by 1cm for every 2cm seat tube increase.
@habibrahman2880 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Nice and clear understanding about this complex subject of Suitable Size ! Thanks !
@IMadeEdiYudistira72 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Verry helpful, thankyou for sharing good information.
@mariaesperanzarelente4231 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Very informative vlog. Thank you.
@mychaelpierce8049 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video. Best one I've come across! Thanks for sharing!
@AndrewEbling 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What about adjusting the handlebar width? This can make a big difference to comfort and aero if you have particularly wide or particularly narrow shoulders.
@Outlast1965 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Just a casual biker from the 80s era, and indeed thanks for the information. Can't keep yet with modern road bikes, kind a hard to let go of my Torrot road bike (Spain) and a Decathlon as well. Both chromoly. Will consider buying the modern one soon, perhaps.
@debbieschwartz3132 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I use a professional fitter when deciding on a new bike. He has all my measurements and helps me make the correct choices. I bought my Niner gravel bike that way. Most comfortable bike I own
@johnsonjae 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I always have this issue. I have a long torso and short legs. My legs would dictate a medium frame should be big on me, but my torso and arms are comfortable on a large frame with 120mm stem. This gives me ideal stack and reach dimensions that are nearly identical. The issue comes when I wanna get long and low, and my head and arms are still above my hips on a large frame or chest on the handlebars on a medium frame. I have considered using my experience as a welder to make my own frame and bolt existing components to it.
@znothingfacez5681 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I have the same issue. I'm more torso than legs.
@Wyoming734 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Now we need a video on how to apply these bike measurements to individual body measurements.
@jhjbarnes 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This is a really valuable subject for a video, so thanks for making it. I think it could do with being a bit more precise with the graphics though, and use real examples as someone else also commented. Another thing that was not mentioned is seat-tube angle - this can obviously have a big effect on the rider's hip angle and how far they have to reach, and is not made clear when looking at stack and reach alone. Not all manufacturers make proprietary seatposts with different offsets.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hi James, cheers for watching and thanks for your comments, we'll use them to help make future videos better!
@jpiccari 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow that stack and reach graphic was less than helpful. For anyone wondering, stack is the vertical and reach the horizontal.
@ltu42 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The graphic for the back to horizontal angle was even worse. Not the best quality GCN video.
@quintonharvey1957 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@ltu42 agreed. This wasn't particularly informative
@GurkenCommander 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
i mean, the word "reach" probably says it all. why would you think reach would be the vertical one?
@Shralps 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It litterally had stack written next to the vertical line. Then reach on the horizontal line. Pretty clear to me.
@joewilliams4603 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Not only that, but later on reach is top tube length and stack is headtube length. Come on GCN!
@wingovertd 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video, thanks mate! If you have back pain and youΒ΄r in between to sizes S and M, which is more suitable?
@hamzahlaher3230 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
i love this channel.........and im subscribed for 2 days only
@jamesainsworth5711 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There needs to be some personal choice options considered when choosing your frame size. I've just ordered a new bike that offers a S, M, ML, and L sizes. According to the manufactures sizing chart, I overlapped the M and ML size so I could go either way. Being someone with a longer torso, I'm able to have something with a bit more reach. Being an older rider, I also didn't want to be too low in the front in order to prevent back discomfort. I made sure that I sat on both sized bikes to get a real feel. I also compared the geometry of my existing bike to that of the new bike, to make sure I was aware of any differences and made sure there was enough adjustments in the saddle height, etc on the new bike to be close to my existing set up. I went with the ML. For a younger racer, I could see why they might go for the M, and have the seat post way up and the bars slammed down, but for me it just felt too small.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Hi James, sounds like you've done a great job researching and buying the right bike for you, well done!
@syedmatni4148 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
very informative for a beginner like me..welldone ππ€πΌπ€πΌ
@denisspratt926 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I am happy that next time the bike builder will help me with a bike fit since it's gonna be a bespoke built frame.
@abdulhadihadi5631 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow nice information and thanks for this
@sheldonharvey8306 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you for addressing this topic. I am still a bit confused. Could you provide samples of different frame sizes and different reaches and different stacks?
@sandrafletcher9323 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes!! This would help
@henryguthery5311 ΠΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video, very informative
@CavenInToTheWorld 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Problem is you want upright position so you choose bigger bike but bigger bike usually comes with longer top tube therefore longer reach. Longer reach means you have to adjust your stem to dangerously smaller size. I've had to experience this as i bought a size 53 bianchi and size match up my height but the reach doesn't so i had to change the stem to 60mm and it becomes dangerously hard to control though the right is comfortable as if i can ride it all day. But again hard to control.
@bobicabayo 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
He's hugging his bike β€οΈ
@alanjohnson8396 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm a mature adult, in decent physical condition, and new to cycling. On the bike chart I'm exactly between sizes. What are the pros and cons of buying the smaller vs the larger bike? Thanks
@andy_xtr3861 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
IMO Bike size and especially bike fitting is everything. Get it wrong and you can cause long term injury. I learn't the hard way!!
@marcMH Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video, but I am still missing more info about all the seat adjustments. Do you have a similar video more focused on this topics?
@franklee5641 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Really wondering what year version your Orbea Orca Aero Disc is? 2018 or 2019? Really hope you answer me. Thanks!
@rah4981 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
So much easier to make an mountain bike fit. Have one hardtail and one full suspension bike. Both fits me like a glove, super comfortable. The road bike was much harder to fit, and is still not nearly as comfortable, but then again I'm not so flexible. This winter between riding my full suspension with studded tires I will start streching out my body. Now I can just barely touch my toes from a standing position, I'm sure if I become more flexible my road bike will feel much better to ride. The size of my road bike seems good, I'm at the upper limit of my size falling almost between two sizes with 3 cm to go. Not my bike size that is the trouble is my body, lifting weights for years without streching out will do that to you.
@FourIntoOne 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wow. Talk about making it more confusing.....well done GCN!
@671james 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for this! Very informative and helpful. I don't understand why this has almost as many "dislikes" as the comments.
@OmarZakiTopics 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
cool thx
@boncattoo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I size my bike and it helped my dismount problem because every ride i do after a race or sportive for some how i can't get out of my bike and mostly crash on dismount. Thanks GCN
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That's great news, it's great to be able to ride without fear of crashing on dismount!
@guywelch656 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That would be halarious
@ger128 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Very helpful!
@subir5986 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wonderful video, nice information about bikes, hope to get similar videos soon π
@shamoy1000 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I just want to ride through the park on Saturday.
@eliknowsbest4946 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thank you
@kendrewreviews 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great video but what about folding bikes? Brompton, Dothan, Java and Tern? Also, how can a tall guy find a folding bikes that can fit them well? For 20 inch wheels, 16-inch wheels
@oOoACFREEMANoOo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
There should be a part 2 with real world examples. Use different people and different bike types. Otherwise good a vid.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for the suggestion, glad you enjoyed the video!
@Pen2paw 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
This identical GCN video with a short rider but it is in Japanese. ukposts.info/have/v-deo/qXdeZa5nopCipKM.html
@haroon420 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Arnold Chan Yh. Thatβs what I was expecting. Nothing much new added here. They should have used their own sizes to compare against different brands and why theyβd choose one size over the other. (Or something to that affect)
@Songbirdstress 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
@@gcn Yes, I found the seat height thing pretty esoteric till I saw a guy on a hired bike looking like he was on a tricycle lol. Now I get it it. I'm having problems getting the right forward aft placing of the saddle.
@jkdjose Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
1 size smaller than what dealer recommends is ideal for meβ¦ dealers tend to go to bigger size and thatβs wrong
@mojoxtreme 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
bike noob here (3 weeks and counting) , got a 56, but when measured i was on the cusp of 54/56. just this morning i asked myself "as time goes on and i want a much more aggressive position would i need to go for a smaller frame with higher seat post and longer stem" 6 hrs later i got my answer xD u guys are the best, thank you!!
@thickschmeat7560 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
yes smaller frame and longer seatpost and stem! i am 6 flat and I have a 50tt bike with a 120mm stem and a seatpost with setback
@robtyman4281 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I take it, 'long and low' means you want to be riding an out and out road bike to go on w/e sprints with mates on, and a more upright position means you're looking more for a bike to go touring on and also commuting on.
@matthewtowse1 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I ride a medium frame with a raised stem and seat and Iβm 6.5 and itβs absolutely fine.
@stefanhoromnea6064 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
That really helps for a novice, thank you! Now, the graphic on the screen is interesting part, but the trousers comments completely take away the focus. Challenging, I like it
@eurobubble7068 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
there is this notion that you have to choose between comfort and aerodynamics but for me a longer stem/ more aerodynamic position (60 cm saddle to bar reach, i'm 186cm tall) turned out to be far better for my back as i wasnt as crouched as much.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Aero and comfortable! Sounds like you've hit the jackpot - well done!
@Guilhermesanunes 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
im 184 and i just bought the Santafixie Raval Fixed Bike - Hydrozoa 30mm size 61cm because it was the only one left. i never had a fixie bike but i love to ride it. do you think it'll be too big for me?
@georgefuentes6659 6 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Good info
@liammcgough9969 6 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for the video. It really help me because I am in between sizes 54cm and 56cm. I am currently riding a 56cm bike. The bike rides well but, the reach is to low and long especially when my hands are on the hoods. I watched the video for smaller riders by Emma and moved the hoods higher on handle bars and rotated the bars and little more up and towards me this help alot. What your video help me to see is reach is not just to the handle bars, but to the hoods. Which is like an extension of the handle bars. what about the crank length? Would shorter cranks help a bike feel more comfortable? I am riding 170cm crankset now, but have a 152cm crankset from a nieghbor. Would that crankset be to short for a 5'8 person?
@Lan_gtg 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Reach is also measured at the headset not at the top cap
@sabamacx 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Depends on manufacturer, sadly.
@prestachuck2867 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
For bike fitting purposes, I measure through the center of the top tube. If I cannot get my hands on the bike, and the manufacturerβs site isnβt specific, I wonβt purchase that bicycle.
@alradhi.j3009 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
if you mean bottom headset. yes. bottom headset stack affects the geometry. upper headset stack doesnβt count when talking about bike geometry.
@dtmateo 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Alradhi Jerichosakti itβs the top of the headtube that counts, not the bottom. The distance between the bottom and the ground is pretty much the same for all bikes that use 700c wheels unless you have abnormal forks. Stack is measured from the bottom bracket centre to the top of the headtube.
@alradhi.j3009 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
dtmateo the OP write headset and so do I. iβm not talking about headtube. about headset, very common with bike that have external headset, changing the bottom headset both shorter or longer will affect the bike geometry. longer bottom headset will slacken the head angle, shorter bottom headset will make it steeper.
@whatissixtynine 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Would love to have seen the new super tall guy for input on how to find a good fit when the pickings are a little slimmer.
@jahen65 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
My hight is 184cm but my leg length is 90/91cm... My hight says I should have a size 56 but my leg length says a size 60 (TREK) what measures are the best??? Currently I have a Battaglin Stealth size 61cm... but to get the reach comfortable Iβve changed the seatpost to a zero setback and the stem to a 90mm with at 75mm reach handlebar... The bike feels good but itβs a little lively on descends...
@krider7296 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Your diagram of reach and stack are not very clear the way you showed them. You should add arrows to clarify that the stack is a vertical measurement relative to the bottom bracket whereas the reach is a horizontal relative measurement from the bottom bracket.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for the feedback, we'll make sure our graphics are as clear as possible in the future!
@stevenlengyel9701 5 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes I want my handle bars higher. To reduce neck pain.
@1015katie 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Iβm so excited getting my new bike tomorrow π¬π¬π¬ππΌππΌππΌ
@georgefowler2077 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yes, looking very dishy . . .
@gutierrezcurtmathewe.7991 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'am a 5'8 rider my torso is quite shorter than my inseam. I'am using a 54cm specialized frame with a 80mm stem - 6/+6.
@matthewlewis2072 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
LOL same height (174cm) but opposite problem: short legs, long body. On my 54 Cinelli, I have an 110mm stem...
@discovervipin1 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Great π information π
@chrisklest1238 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Do fitters help you find bike make and models that will fit you? Do they have you sit on an assortment of bikes and adjust the seat and reach accordingly?
@mabeljesalva880 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wish I can have one of those bikes.πππ
@noahhalbfoster6892 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
are those 11 speed shimano cranks?
@rickeysantos ΠΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When would people typically want a more upright position? Iβm trying to figure this out as Iβm 5 foot 10 inches and 31 inseam. Canyon says I fit a size small but I have the opportunity to get a size medium for a great deal.
@MarkMash17 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
My legs are really long and my back is kind of shorter than normal - so my reach is weird. My seat post ended up being really high, saddle all the way forward and I'm now quite comfortable... weird setup but works for me.
@chriskros8858 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What about knees? In such position you can feel an ache after longer ride.
@brickclickcat2893 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Yeah, sizing and fit are fundamental but it's impossible to come up with a general formula for them which would work for everyone. For those new to the sport, try a few different bikes, note the stack, reach, effective top tube, seat and head tube angles, effective drop from seat to bars, pay attention to how all these things affect how you feel on the bike. Ask yourself how big of a drop from to bars you'll be willing to live with, and what size will allow you to most easily achive fore aft balance on the bike. And don't listen to sales guys that tell you they can fit you into any size frame. Run if you hear that. They just want to sell you what they happen to have in stock.
@chocolate_squiggle 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Problem is I've been cycling for a year and only just now feel comfortable with what all those terms are. Even stack/reach I only learned last month! If beginners are expected to get a degree in cycling before they buy their first bike then no-one would ever start. I really think experienced cyclists can totally forget what it's like to be a beginner sometimes when sharing their wisdom, however well meaning. Beginners aren't trying to be perfect. They're trying to get to grips with how and when they should shift gears, how to brake safely, how to get out of their clip(less) pedals, how to get enough confidence to try riding in some heavier traffic. And don't forget navigating all the marketing guff about which helmet, lights, locks, emergency tools and bicycle pumps to buy - let alone learning how to use them all so you don't get stranded somewhere. I placed a huge emphasis on these things because I ride alone, decently far from home and very often late at night so I need to be safe & self sufficient, but when you're starting from scratch and haven't ridden a bike in 30 years then just learning about missing links / power links was a revelation in itself! That's the level I was coming from. Learning all that stuff on my own from scratch has taken me the better part of this last year. Anyone talking to me about the myriad of different bicycle measurements at the beginning would only have put me off. In fact I *was* put off for many many years by the stupid marketing photos of bikes with their seats 2 feet higher than the bars (okay maybe a slight exaggeration there, maybe). The flat bar bike I bought is heavy and sluggish and probably cost less than most enthusiasts front wheel, but it's been enough for me to learn the basics and do some 4hr 50 mile rides. I just don't think beginners have to obsess over 'geometry' or fit. Just buy a bike that's in the right ballpark which isn't hard and expect that you'll likely change it after a year or so - but you'll have a better idea of how a bike 'fits' by then.
@lynnebarkas6906 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I thought Stack was from centre of bottom bracket to top of head tube. Not the length of head tube as you demonstrated??
@jameswitte5676 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Can you do a video on saddle fore and aft position? Triathletes are almost directly over the crank while roads bikes are behind. Thanks
@matthewlewis2072 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Triantuletes wear trainers to ride and get confused by corners. Ignore them.
@lloydharry 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
what brand/model is that front light you have mounted?
@sheldonharvey8306 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Thanks for working in the rain.
@trbeyond 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
GTN needs to do this on their channel for tri bikes!
@Stephensry 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We need a video on standing your bike on your water bottle and other creative methods π
@MaxMustermannnnnn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I own a Cube Cross Race CX Bike with a 58cm frame and the size is perfect for me. I tested a Trek Madone SLR with an 58cm frame and it was to tiny for me.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Well done for testing a range of bikes, we're glad you found one that fits!
@alradhi.j3009 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
1:29 not the best graphics to explain about reach and stack.
@james19164 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
193cm tall, 37.5βinseam - stuck between whether I need a 61cm or 58cm frame (endurance geometry). My legs are quite long...
@LOGICAL-JAY 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
61cm
@Aphidman1 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
When you're 2 meters tall, the only question is, does the manufacturer make a frame even remotely close to big enough? Test riding is almost always not possible because the largest frame sizes are not available in the shop. You special order the bike, then you figure out all the adjustments needed to make it fit as well as possible.
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
It's never easy for super tall people, we hope you have found a bike you like that you are comfy on!
@georgefowler2077 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I think that Ray Booty , at 6'3" , 25" frame , 7" cranks , 71seat angle and 73 head , 24" front centres . . .
@jonathanrobinson2628 Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm just coming back to cycling after a 15 year hiatus, and being 2.03m, I share your pain. Perhaps when I was younger, I didn't notice so much, but now even a 61cm frame feels compact. The hunt for a 65cm begins!
@JB-1138 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
At 5'8" I ride a Medium size bike, but next time I'll but a size Small. The frame size chart usually indicates a split at 5'7" from small to medium. It's more comfortable, at least on a MTB.
@prizoni0257 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
How many inches was the wheel
@ch.ankit_estonia9124 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm around 170 cm and today bought S size (scott road bike Gravel 40). But as per char they indicate that can use either S or M. As per you which one is good?
@georgefowler2077 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
To arrive at your suitable frame size , centre of bracket axle to the top of the seat tube , two thirds of crutch to floor with socks , without shoes . . . Seat angle may be from 71 to 74 degrees , 72 or 73 degrees more generally , likewise head angle , though Beryl Burton likely had 73 seat , 71 head angle , crank length as about one fifth of crutch to floor , handlebar stem extension will be chosen according to your chosen position and style of riding with variations , seat pillar and saddle adjustment . . .
@levarfreeman6854 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Looking to buy a bike this helped Iβm 6ft 2 and 280
@chrisbiker4702 2 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
New to this. I am 5ft 8in and bought a medium. I was confused by your last statement. You say if you want a race type ride go for smaller bike yet you said "reach" is shorter on smaller bike so how does that make sense? Am I misunderstanding this?
@lelandquintal3126 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Iβm gonna try and make a pvc setup to check my angles. I think a 45 and 90 degree elbow with about 2 and a half feet of pipe sticking out all ends should do. I will edit post after the contraption is built....
@gcn 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
We look forward to seeing it!
@matthewlewis2072 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Get A Bike Fit
@mribanezildjian3996 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Wht is the best bike size for 179?
@woolychewbakker5277 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Get Bike Fast Fit Elite from the iOS store.
@hyperhippyhippohopper 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
At 3:39 An angle between 40-45 degrees is recommended, but the guy on screen sits at an angle of 59 degrees. Also, strange how the line on the leg points at an abitrary point on the top of the knee rather than at its center like it does on the hip bone? Even more confusing is the fact that the line toward the sholder also points at the end of the shoulder muscle, right where the bicep begins, rather than the center of the large deltoid. Where are these measuring points coming from?
@Siberius- 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I don't have a bike to do this on... lol. Was hoping for a rough way to know the gist, before going to a bike shop that might be far away. There is meaning your inseam so I'll look further into that.
@tungstenkid2271 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm 5ft 8" tall, with average leg length and want to buy a mens mountain bike or hybrid bike, i've looked at adverts and their sizes are listed as 17", 18", 20", and 21", so which should I get?
@jonathaninglis3830 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What if you have long legs , short body and medium length arms ( yes I know I am a bit of a weird shape ) Currently riding an XXL frame Marin Larkspur for commuting
@davidwilliam5558 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Im 193cm or 6'3. I fond a bike i really love and like for a good price. But the largest frame size is 60cm or 23inch. I need a bike thats 62-64cm or 24-25inch. Can i still get this bike or would that make a really significant difference.
@Nirvezz 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What size unicycle should I ride ...?
@barrycorney3665 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I'm 5'7" (67 inches) but my inseam is 33.5 inches(50%)... I read that inseam on an average person was 45% of their height so I should be 6'2" extrapolating that out...!!! I sit between a 52/54 but for me the ETT is important and should be no more than 535mm. I got an ebay bargain Carrera TDF as a winter trainer in the 51cm size- but as these only come in 2 sizes the ETT is 565mm! More like a Large and this is the smaller of the sizes...I had to replace the 20mm layback post with a straight MTB one, and drop the stem length to 80mm (tried 70mm but was becoming very twitchy)- my ETT plus stem should be around 640mm...I'm struggling at the moment looking for a new "sportive" bike- I need the shorter ETT of a 50-52 but want the higher head tube of a larger bike for a more upright position (this again may require change of stem and/or seatpost).... I bought a KTM E-MTB from Merlin in a size S (17" Seat tube) which according to their charts I was bang in the middle of the range, and to my relief for a Β£3k mail order has been absolutely perfect.... I Think it's about working out which manufacturers seem to cater for your proportions.... Looking at the 54 Sensa Romagna 2021 at the moment, it seems to tick all the boxes size and spec wise...
@BjornSundstrom 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I Think Reach and Stack are mixed up in the graphic ...
@matthewlewis2072 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
And then Hank uses the wrong measurements for Stack and Reach later on...
@MorrisonLee-wt2jp Π ΡΠΊ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
crazy TMI! I came ignorant asking a simple question and I leave still ignorant but now confused. Please keep it simple guys.
@leeoien3645 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Excellent video for only 5:30 min. long!
@borjastick 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
here's a more technical but easy way to find the right seat height for you. Measure your inside leg from stocking foot at the heel to the underside of your bits (you know what I mean) then turn that into a 109% centimeter measurement. Put your pedal at the 6 o'clock position and measure to the top of the saddle and adjust to the 109% length. Easy.
@ludandersson 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
In the part where it says you need to have 40-45 degrees the angles are not 40-45. Can you explain what the correct angle should be?
@aszi77 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
The drawing is wrong, the angle is relative to horizontal, not your thigh.
@richardokafor4028 6 ΠΌΡΡΡΡΡΠ² ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
I love your bike.
@reginaldscot165 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What about top tube length? That's the best way to measure a bike because it doesn't get effected by the design of the bike. 2 bikes can have completely different effective seat tube length and the same top tube length. The seat tube is less important because the seat post moves, but the length of the top tube doesn't.
@bertdebruijn7129 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
What about sloping/compact frames?
@reginaldscot165 4 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Bert de Bruijn you use a ruler to measure across to where the top tube would have ended if it was straight. ππ»
@MattSezer 3 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
Bert de Bruijn Itβs called βeffective top tube,β and itβs a pretty common measurement in the geometry charts that come with the bike.
@billfrigo7602 2 ΡΠΎΠΊΠΈ ΡΠΎΠΌΡ
My current bike is a perfect size for me but I had to tweak it quite a bit, going on 7 years now....... for my upgrade: still can't figure out my size for a Bianchi Oltre XR3. I'm 5'11/180cm, but have a short inseam: 31"/80cm. Bianchi's website suggests 57cm based on my height, and 53cm based on my legs. Surely that means I get a 55cm?????? But will that be too large for my legs? No idea.
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