Illegal Super Bike | So Fast It Was Banned!
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День томуHave we finally found the first carbon fibre monocoque UCI-banned superbike which can topple the time of a modern road bike? The Hotta has Tour de France Prologue Victories and Olympic Medals to its name and we've got not just one, but two of these very special machines to pit against a brand-new Canyon Aeroad. But there's a twist, one of the Hotta's is kitted out in full retro-guise, but the other, is a modern take, assembled with cutting-edge components to blend the two worlds into one. Could this create the ultimate mix of modern efficiency with old-school aerodynamic madness? There's only one way to find out!
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0:00 - Intro
0:22 - The Retro Bikes We've Ridden So Far
02:19 - The Route For The Challenge
03:14 - Riding The Hotta
09:06 - The Modern Canyon Aeroad Competitor
12:54 - How Fast Is A Modern Hotta?
14:26 - The Results
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@gcn 17 днів тому
Have you ever wanted to kit out a retro bike with modern components? What would you choose?
@___Bebo___ 17 днів тому
I'd like an old purple Panasonic road frame with Campag down shifters and groupset. Haven't gotten around to building it, don't really have a good use for it.
@truthseeker8483 17 днів тому
I did.....modern drive trains are a game changer..as are modern tyres and sealed bearings. What brand is the Carbon fork on the retro Hotta?? Is it 1 inch?
@zevrobins905 17 днів тому
i have a absolute fantastique tokerr u-district single speed built built but the now-defunct seattle bike company. it has a flip-flop hub and i spin-out at around 48.25km p/h (30mph). i am 100% torn between restoring this cool old-bike with lightweight, modern parts, or buying a new fixed-gear and upgrading the heck out of it.
@___Bebo___ 17 днів тому
@@zevrobins905 Just get a Wabi bro, the Reynolds 725 steel for 450 bucks is a no brainer. That bike is either Hi Ten steel or non butted CroMoly which is basically the same thing, it for sure has a Hi Ten Fork. The Wabi feels like a race bike from the 1980s, but even lighter and more stiff in the seatstays.
@DavidCasebeer-wf8by 17 днів тому
I have done this. I took my 1977 Mercian Professional (185k miles) had Mercian rejig for 11/12 from the original 125mm. Outfitted with Record 11 and Eurus wheels. Dropped 1.8 kilos to 9.8 for the bike. What did I feel, better shifting and that's about it. Still smooth and stiff and fast. But I am 69 rather than 22.
@ivordavies1828 19 днів тому
I had one of the last Hotta TT's in 1999. It had Mavic Mektronic, Zipp carbon cranks and Hed 60mm Deep Wheels. All done in clearcoat so the carbon showed. It was not just a bike, it was a work of art as well. I miss that bike!
@JibbaJabber 19 днів тому
😢
@the318pop 18 днів тому
I had one of the Linda McCartney team bikes, super rare FIR trispoke and Hed disc. Why oh why did I sell it.
@gcn 17 днів тому
Ooo sounds like an epic machine 👌 Why did you get rid of it? 😢
@death2pc 13 днів тому
So. You tossed it for the constant next "latest, greatest". It's all the bike, nothing more. Focus on the bike only. ps: I just bought some "aero" chain lube and I can attest.... It IS faster. Really. I swear.
@JibbaJabber 19 днів тому
'Bit of a speed wobble'😮 @10:20 Explains why Ollie didn't turn up - change of kit required!
@richardhutchings1980 18 днів тому
Looked really scary didn't it?
@Shayzare 7 днів тому
I thought it wasn't gonna end well when it started to wobble wobble!! 😵😵
@philmccracken2012 11 днів тому
The only thing that should be banned are the clothes that they are wearing in the thumbnail
@pkeppler6249 19 днів тому
Old frame with modern components and fit ideology 👍. Love it! More, please!
@Mainsail333 18 днів тому
Might call it a Resto-Mod
@gcn 17 днів тому
That would go split opinions though! Should you keep it classic or change things up?
@arekb5951 14 днів тому
@@gcn I mean, if it's YOUR bike, do whatever pleases YOU
@RyTrapp0 3 дні тому
@@gcn The automotive & motorcycle worlds will let you know when they've come to a conclusion on that question lol
@TheRJAD 2 дні тому
@@gcnI expected a detailed view on the GCN tech channnel of the “new” Hotta
@sportydavek1590 19 днів тому
I still regret sellling my Metron TT bike. It was very similar to a Hotta but finished in bare varnished carbon and was simply beautiful.
@curtisducati 19 днів тому
I have seen a few of them come up on daft Ebay , last one was about a year ago , rare bike ..
@gcn 17 днів тому
We've all got one that got away! 🤣 Would you ever pick another up, or has that ship sailed?
@stephenmackay9762 5 днів тому
A true work of art, I got mine with a 24k gold Olympic symbol just under the seat, the only one ever made. Sadly I do not take it out much as it turns too many heads, I do not think I have ever taken it out and not been stopped. Who else has this type of Metron bike?
@sportydavek1590 5 днів тому
@gcn - that ship has sailed. The reality is that it always looked better than it rode. The rear brake never worked. It was tricky in cross winds (I remember the rear wheel lifting off the ground in a strong gust once) and it wasn't that light or stiff. The pros were that it made the perfect TT bike noise, especially with a disc wheel and looked amazing.
@halnorwood6978 19 днів тому
Simon Aske who designed the bike and owns it, now makes brilliant steel frames. Love mine!
@letsgetdoing 17 днів тому
Just looked him up, his work is sick. Thanks!
@PaulJohnson-tl9ph 19 днів тому
You guys are so entertaining, thanks keep it up!!! 🤣👍
@seraph4581 16 днів тому
Really great to have modern components on the frame for the later run. In most of these videos the limiting factors on older bikes are tires and gears. Please do these more often!
@lordraiden5398 19 днів тому
Love seeing these old carbon bikes from my youth. The best bike I have ever owned was in my mid 20's. Polished clear coated Vitus 979 aluminum. It had a Shimano 105 group set with a beautiful perforated leather, titanium rail Selle Italia Flite seat. Loved that bike. Nothing I have had since compares. Would love to build one with a modern groupset and wider tires. Oh and a waxed chain 😊
@bwri9081 18 днів тому
I agree. My Vitus 979 (dark blue) circa 1989 was the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I built mine with Shimano 600 (Ultegra for those not as long in the tooth as I am). Funny, now companies are trying to get away from super stiff carbon and trying to make it "compliant". Vitus had this figured out in the late 70's and 80's.
@sergioleon4771 15 днів тому
I love your videos guys, so entertaining and I learn a lot from bikes, they motivate me to keep on riding! 🚲
@EMC2Scotia 17 днів тому
I remember seeing these Hotta bikes in Cycling Weekly, and those RTTC TT's. Great throwback video, I would suggest that Litespeed bike from this era that was a V shape for the next installment in this series
@nustylehair8495 16 днів тому
Chapeau GCN thank you for video celebrating the engineering genius of Simon ASKE. The Campagola TT rear wheel on the Hokka is my Dad’s; Ken Dean, from his time trial bike from the late 80’s.I have the pleasure today of riding a ASKE steel bike…..well deserved recognition indeed for Simon.
@rogerbarr6988 19 днів тому
How about Graham Obree interview and bike review !!!
@secretsquirrel3793 18 днів тому
Oh yes please. I really hope that Mr O has more wild ideas up his sleeve. Loved his Beastie!
@n22pdf 18 днів тому
This is brilliant guys lovely to see this bike and a version with updated components excellent 😊 please do more of these type vids dudes❤ Pete 🚴🏻👍
@gcn 17 днів тому
Thanks Pete! Any other bikes we should check out? 👀
@n22pdf 17 днів тому
@@gcn How about Giant MCR vs Hotta ? although they are very similar..
@bmwflyfisher 19 днів тому
Not a TT bike fan, but…Wow, the new component Hotta is HOT. The look of that thing is great. All of these remind me of the Trek Y mountain bike…Much later, but it was beautiful.
@lolly166541 19 днів тому
It's exactly what the frame needed! Like holy wet bananas, I can imagine that that's what they've had fantasized about 30 years ago.
@gcn 17 днів тому
Hahaha you know a bike is hot when a non TT fan likes it 🔥
@LaurentiusTriarius 15 днів тому
If someone made a homage I'd probably get in line with all the other suckers 😂
@johnellis6944 15 днів тому
Hotta gave me one for a year in 97 or maybe 98 for racing Tri's. Terrifying in a cross wind but it was a rocket ship - I always felt that if i had better legs it would go faster - never found the point where i felt it was at its speed / aero limit. It just felt like it could always go faster. The tech for the time was incredible and that carbon fork had a titanium steerer tube. I do miss that bike. Thank you for doing this - awesome work and it's bringing back some cool memories.
@ryangreenhow 18 днів тому
Every time I hear "Canyon Aero" I immediately think of the Simpson's Canyonero jingle. :P
@larrylem3582 17 днів тому
She blinds everybody with her super high beams, She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine!
@nwiniata4776 День тому
I had a Hotta, - from 2003 to 2009. Black, A Road Fame - but set up as a Fixie. With Corima 4 Spoke Carbon Wheels, Campagnolo Record Pista Crank, Profile Integrated stem and 'Bullhorn' Handlebars, and a Modolo Kronos Front Brake. It really was a bike that got better & better the faster it went...
@kithinders1086 19 днів тому
I love these comparison videos, keep them coming. Ventum's new One (?) has the same shape as the Hotta, you guys reckon you can get your ones on one of those? Maybe the GTN folks have already tested it and I'm missing that. Bring it to GCN!!! (you chum (retro/relics or not) make a lovely presenting duo as well)
@DJDUBED 19 днів тому
I have 2 of these and a lotus 110, i love my hotta thats set up for track! Still great to ride nowadays
@gcn 17 днів тому
Wow that is awesome! Which one do prefer to ride? Hotta or a 110?
@ThePerks2010 4 дні тому
I was eighteen when this came out, i was still getting excited about my first aluminium frame and alloys 😂 I'd have probably exploded at seeing this!
@jed1mstr 19 днів тому
I never get tired of Si's Bovine Phobia
@gcn 17 днів тому
We're not sure Si feels the same! He things it's udderly ridiculous that we keep milking the joke 😉
@CoreyDavey-hf8wb 13 днів тому
Lovely to see you guys filming down in teign valley, be great to see you guys do more videos down this neck of the woods.
@l.d.t.6327 19 днів тому
I have a ghibli wheel. You won't notice much difference with the modern disc wheel: just glue a 25mm modern tubular on it. Most of the technical gains are obviously in the tires / tubulars used: you probably just went slower in the curves and that doesn't have much to do with the wattage.
@billrowan1957 10 днів тому
I can't imagine the frustration of the drivers that get stuck behind a bicycle video
@simonharris5414 18 днів тому
Awesome video. I used to drive Simon Aske and Colin Lewis crazy as a Kid drinking all their tea in the shop. Always remember that bike on the wall in the old Paignton shop. I think I was loaned that Spinergy wheel for a RTC Nationals back when I was a JR. It's typical of Simon that he never boasted of the fact that he was such a skilled engineer. I was lucky to have him as my mechanic. I am currently rebuilding my dads old bike which we got from Simon.
@gcn 17 днів тому
The bike world is full of these silent cycling geniuses 🙌 Did you ever get to swing your leg over the Hotta? 🔥
@MrRNoble9 17 днів тому
@@gcn And its worth a shout out to Angus Noble who founded Carbon Design and helped make it a reality. I'm biased as his son of course. We both love the GCN show! I still have the original with the single rear stay and used to cycle it around Bristol.
@davidellis578 17 днів тому
I believe the main difference in the handling is due to the fork. I had purchased a Hotta fork for my TT bike many years ago and it was a thing if beauty, but riding on northern Ontario road, destroyed by constant frost heave, resulted in some tense moments with fork flex, so I reverted back to the Columbus steel fork. However, Clara Hughes, one of my idols, brought home to Canada a bronze at the Atlanta Olympics.
@markjthomson 17 днів тому
Gentlemen... 30 years old is a CLASSIC, not an antique... and in learning that, I feel that also answers the question about yourselves! Stop selling yourselves short! Great vid.
@gcn 17 днів тому
Retro maybe? 🤣
@adadinthelifeofacyclist 19 днів тому
I believe the original riding position would've been designed to be riden sat right forward (on the saddle and on the, um... no-man's-land-bit) with a flat lower back, not arched round like in the GCN modern set up
@stephenmackay9762 5 днів тому
Metron, a true monocoque and an engineering marvel. As was mentioned in the video the HOTTA was made in parts and stuck together, I think they had issues splitting. The Metron on the other hand was made in one go (not stuck together).
@mommamooney 17 днів тому
Si and Ollie are like kids in a toy shop. “Whoa, would you look at that!!!”
@gcn 17 днів тому
Both in their happy place for sure 🤣
@jefffarmer9200 18 днів тому
Beautiful bike. I really dislike the way the UCI does its best to stop innovation of bicycles.
@michellejohnstone6106 17 днів тому
Great video brings back great memories of a bike that was so futuristic at the time. What saddlebag does Ollie have on his new Canyon?
@mystoller 19 днів тому
I think I am going to be sick! After racing through the 90s and into the pro ranks in the 2000s, I ended up with a fair amount of bikes that usually either got returned to the team or ended up in my parent's garage. Somehow, in the late 90s I was given a prototype bike frame that was in need of some love. The frame was all black and said Infinity on it, it was cracked in two spots and it had a missing rear wheel, a special tri-spoke number that mounted to the one-sided rear end. I knew it was a special bike but since I was missing key parts and it was cracked I caved in to my Dad´s request to clear out some of my old bikes from his garage a few years ago and guess what found its way into the bin!! I knew I was going to regret it but after watching this and knowing the full story I am really bummed!
@colinricketts1415 18 днів тому
Richard Prebble used to come to the club 10's near Cheltenham with a Hotta in the mid 90's, it looked amazing bike especially since most of us had steel road bikes with tri bars with an occasional low pro bike with a funny small front wheel .
@gcn 17 днів тому
How did the bike do up against the steel race machines? ⚙💨
@colinricketts1415 17 днів тому
@@gcn any bike at that time with Richard on it would have been a fast bike! the sound that bike made (possibly the disc wheel, but somehow it was louder than other disks) was a 10 or 15 meter warning he was overtaking. Both him and the bike were in a different league
@Chrisblottphoto 18 днів тому
Every Vid with Si is a good vid.
@crusherbmx 13 днів тому
I was riding in 1993 and this bike WAS radical, but it wasn't alien or anything, it doesn't look any crazier than some of the 1984 Olympic bikes.
@davemoss6976 15 днів тому
Interesting conclusion that the frame matters very little compared with achieving the best body position. it would be good to see how Graeme Obree's home made frame with modern wheels and components would compare. aero factors aside one of Graeme's key objectives was to bring the feet as close as possible, hence the washing machine bottom bracket bearing. I expect the narrow bottom bracket is also more aero as well as improved power transfer.
@rbonn3880 18 днів тому
Fascinating video, gents! Mesmerized by the incredible design for the Hotta (though Ollie's Canyon is pretty sweet, too)...
@gcn 17 днів тому
Different horses for different courses 🙌 If you had to, which one are you taking home?
@theoteddy9665 14 днів тому
I saw that wobble imediately😂that was pantscrapping indeed😂
@user-tm4iy8mv7c 18 днів тому
Such a beauty in deed. How about a BP Stealth? Or a BP2 Stealth? These run in the same group as the Hotta. So cool. I have a BP2. It’s mostly for my wall. I have used it in the 12 hour ultra world championships for just under an hour just to say I did. Since then it stays on the wall. Beautiful. Really nice program! Cheers!
@veloman59 17 днів тому
Great film guys. I think I'd go for the Hotta. Mainly because I remember watching Richard Prebble winning the National 25 mile TT way back in 93 I think it was. It looked super cool then. Nice to see you use Ambrosio A8 forks on the modernised version too. I used to work for the company that produced them.
@wiseoldman5841 13 днів тому
Looks like the 30 year old frame was clearly better with new components! So much for progress..lol
@user-li1vc2jz8g 17 днів тому
Great to see the Teign valley road on GCN.
@joshuajosephs5562 17 днів тому
Yet whats amazing is that Greg Lemond still owns the fastest time trial over any longer distance at TdF 30+ years later.
@dkelly7159 15 днів тому
Also Boardman still has the fastest Prologue time on an "antique" bike with a low position. So this video is basically nonsense but it keeps the sponsors happy 😂
@brockjennings 18 днів тому
I had a pair of Spinergy Rev-X wheels. Installing the available X-brace between the spokes made a big difference in reducing flex.
@AlistairLattimore 18 днів тому
Love seeing the old bike pimped out with new gear!
@gcn 17 днів тому
Always cool to see an old bike with new parts 😎
@edwardrissington3218 18 днів тому
I had a Specialized Epic with carbon fiber tubes, aluminium joints and forks, with Shimano Ultegra components, MavicMA6 wheels bought in Banff Canada Dec 1993. It came with drop bars with drop ins(if you know what they were.). I raced triathlons on it, I just put some Profile airstryke tri bars on it.. The first time I actually raced it was Lanzarote Ironman 1994 after which I cut off the drop ins because they were dangerous. After a move to New Zealand in 2000 I still raced it till 2010 and was still beating most modern bikes.
@dkelly7159 15 днів тому
I had one of those too. Amazing deep ruby red paint job. 👍
@karlnorgaard9447 12 днів тому
As to Simon's comment, that the bladed fr wheel/ fork combo was flexy... I say, in the last few years, have we not all started riding wider, softer tires? We can always learn by revisiting the past. I have steel and carbon road bikes. I dont race or anything, but I often feel my old steel FUJI is as fast or faster than my Pinarello.
@ihsanulkamil1999 7 днів тому
BIKE LOOKS AWESOME ❤
@TimR123 18 днів тому
Sheez!, That “Speed wobble” at 8:00 was insane. 😱🙀 I’ve never seen a bike look so much like cooked noodles.
@gcn 17 днів тому
Imagine riding it 😬 Talk about compliance 🤣
@TimR123 16 днів тому
@@gcn you know... that might make a good video. Maybe on the road with mounted cameras. Maybe a lab with some engineers? Show what is really going on with bikes as we roll down the road. Most of us can't visualize what is happening in 'compliance' and 'stiffness' The parts ARE moving and distorting. (Most not as insanely as in this video) and it might be interesting to see it.
@QoraxAudio 18 днів тому
12:46 Oh gawd that brake squeal! 😂😂
@StuartMossTV 18 днів тому
Guys you need to get one of the beam bikes next. Either a Zipp 2001/3001, a Trek Y Foil 77 or the ultra rare LeMond Boomerang. The Zipp was the record holder for the Hawaii Ironman course.
@gcn 17 днів тому
How do you think this bike compare to the MCR?
@StuartMossTV 17 днів тому
@@gcnit looks to be built better than the MCR, because it doesn’t flex all over the place. I do still prefer the MCR from an aesthetics point of view, with its matching aero seat post etc (but then I’m probably a bit biased). As with all of this era of bikes I still wonder if they were actually any more aerodynamic? I mean most of the designs were the product of guess work and hand drawings. Maybe that’s a future video, get them ALL in the wind tunnel and measure them? 😃👍
@howardwhite5131 16 днів тому
They could try a Softride Power V.
@harrywagner3877 12 днів тому
I still have a Trek Y foil 77 . Unfortunately I'm over 80 & unable to ride any more.
@edwardrissington3218 18 днів тому
I also raced on 18mm tyres. For the racing season I would move from my training bike to my race bike and it was certainly twitchy at first but I would quickly get used to it.
@pittviper6320 19 днів тому
The flex on that front wheel! 😮🤦🏼♂️
@gcn 17 днів тому
Scary right! Did you catch Alex trying these wheels out over on GCN Tech 👉ukposts.info/have/v-deo/jIOYnXh7jZpk1Gw.html
@adamrudling1339 19 днів тому
Beautiful modern upgrade, e stay frames have a special look for me.
@fuzzyfella День тому
Hotta every day of the week... I am lucky to have a custom steel monster cross bike made by Simon Aske. It is brilliant and I would recommend anyone to get one of his bikes.
@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 16 днів тому
Build up a that hotta bike with as close the same position as the canyon, same handlebars, wheels (if possible) same groupset, everything besides the frame. Then retest please.
@lanternmatt2002 19 днів тому
hotta: it gets cooler from here
@steveherring8494 16 днів тому
ollie, i know these bikes you guys are riding pretty nice. personally i think my TTbike is so much cooler. my bike is not really ready to ride. i disassemble mine in my move to AZ and just haven't put it back together yet. i think you helped me by telling me i need to have a pro set it up for me. i got the frame built and i moved the frame to maryland and hung it on the wall. the rest of the components were just so expensive i couldn't afford all at once. i put campagnolo record groupo in it. it's nice and fast. it's also a bit on the heavy side. i was out riding one day looking for stuff for the kitchen. while riding home i needed to stop at the hardware store. i was passing cars like they were parked. i took the bike into the store with me. i had this young boy talking to his father. they were talking about this bike that just passed them on the road. ok i love to show this bike off to anybody that wants to listen. i turned around and went down on one knee. i was at the youngster height talking to him about my bike. his father kinda stayed out other than to listen. i asked the young boy if he wanted to sit on it. he did and his father had to pick the youngster up and sit him on the seat. oh boy was he excited. it's got the really small or thin tires, (18mm) I usually run over 100 psi in them so I feel every pebble on the road. I really wanted you to come see it. If I had know you were riding in Tucson. I would have put it in my truck and drove down there to see you and show you this bike.
@chrisridesbicycles 19 днів тому
I love this series. Can Ollie ask his mate Fausto if he can borrow the tour 1997 Pinarello Parigina? Also, this should be taken beyond TT bikes. I'd love the see how an old steel bike with curved fork stacks up on cobbles.
@seal1mas 13 днів тому
Still got my Giant MCR, such a unique TT bike, but i've given it the modern updates!!
@user-rg5fp7ok3t 17 днів тому
The old spec machine is in effect just a snapshot, back in the last century most racing bikes evolved from week to week, month to month, very often the bike that ended the season only shared the frame and maybe wheels from the start. My '78 race bike changed paint every couple of years and went from all rounder to a pseudo low pro tt across its life. The 'new spec' Hotta is typical of that evolution, these days people change whole bikes, we used to change single parts, it was rare to find a race bike with one brand parts let alone a full groupset !
@JibbaJabber 19 днів тому
@16:14 Si, don't lie! You love the 'modern' Hotta because it comes in the GCN colourway. Just needs a few of these at back to finish the paint job 🔥🔥🔥🔥 #Hot
@crusherbmx 13 днів тому
Talking about the aggressive riding position, roadies were so macho back in the day, 20mm or smaller tires, 13-18 cassettes, 53/42 chainrings, bars slammed as low as they can go...toe clips....it was an initiation thing I guess, and coming from BMX, it was a challenge that I struggled to meet...and never really accomplished.
@kennethgislum2073 17 днів тому
I also remember the futuristic Pinarellos ridden by both Indurain, Riis and Ulrich - especially the one Bjarne Riis threw into the field in TDF.
@leighdickinson8299 19 днів тому
Brilliant Lads
@amanahmed8322 19 днів тому
Still have my 1998 Hotta and Spinergy wheels.
@princeedmunddukeofedinburg 19 днів тому
Stunning bikes
@gcn 17 днів тому
Absolute classics 👌
@doesitgame 2 години тому
I don’t care if anything is faster, the Campag disc and Spinergy Rev-X on the Hotta automatically win the “bike to flex with” competition.
@iletyouwin1 13 днів тому
You want suggestions, head to the states and just call around to random bike shops and see what they got. It's basically tradition for bike shops in the US to have a couple antique bikes with a bit of history.
@danielburges8176 19 днів тому
A Lotus 110 with all the modern kit would be the perfect solution
@rccc5806 7 днів тому
Great show. Though, half in it, still no idea why it's so good. Maybe next time.
@SY-ve5qm 18 днів тому
More comfortable means more speed! Antique ones are fascinating from technology history perspective but will not compete with modern. Anyway, good way to promote new bikes.
@enigma335i 19 днів тому
my spinergy wheels had braces between the carbon spokes to provide stiffness that seem to be missing on these, not surprised they were flexing like crazy
@lunam7249 18 днів тому
mine have aluminum blades under the inside of the carbon blades, 8 per wheel😳, nice
@millicentawour9482 16 днів тому
In need of your gcn 1 windbreaker, gained much from your coaching time to shine
@peterleffler2062 16 днів тому
At last. The old bike with the new build. I'm with Si. If go for drop bars and all the other modern kit. You might have a bit of a chimney under the bars but it would still be super cool. I'd look ridiculous on it but the bike would be cool.😂
@AQUPAS 18 днів тому
GCN with the 4K upload!! Thanks guys ❤
@simonstucki 18 днів тому
very interesting! So can we conclude, that bikes nowadays would be a lot faster if it weren't for the UCI limiting frame design? It seems that the only thing that improved was everything else than the frame. Imagine doing that experiment the other way around, putting the old forks, wheels, drivetrain on the canyon and also slam the position to match the Hotta, that would probably be a terrible bike.
@michaelbaldree6821 15 днів тому
Since Campagnolo is on the old frame, you should have used Campagnolo for the new build. After all they are still making great wheels and groupsets.
@simonlbenson 18 днів тому
Ooooooh I see height you were going to come of when you got that speed wobble 😂
@billkallas1762 19 днів тому
Love those Spinergy Rev-X wheels. I still have a pair, from the stone age. 19mm Conti Comps?
@stevezodiac491 18 днів тому
so have I, they aren't very fast.
@BikesKomsCRO 19 днів тому
298w and 301w is okay to compare.. But 311 watts is different.
@luukrutten1295 19 днів тому
Its a good thing when a bike makes you push the pedals harder! Si just couldnt contain himself.
@SolarizeYourLife 16 днів тому
I think you broke the sound barrier on the last bike set up...
@Norm0770 18 днів тому
I went back to watch the Ullrich TT bike episode and Ollie was 30 seconds quicker than on the modern aero road bike at the same power and Si was exactly the same speed. It would be interesting to the see the Walser TT bike with modern position vs a modern TT bike.
@softpool1286 18 днів тому
hotta was really cool looking. would have loved to see a modern tt bike comparison along with modern road bike
@gcn 17 днів тому
Watch this space 👀 Maybe turn those notifications on too 😉
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 17 днів тому
Once you have seen a Spinergy wheel explode at speed (tube down through the rim, as it delaminated) you never want to see another one again. I'm surprised they rode it.
@krehme 19 днів тому
I would take the Lotus, I guess just because I have fond memories of it. A friend let me borrow his for a TT. The Lotus was a blast… so smooth.
@DJDUBED 19 днів тому
I own both, love the hotta as Day to day bike a bit more
@9psi 18 днів тому
Next you can try the rmit superbike (which may have become BT??) Was good to see the updated components. Much better comparison
@sosci8888 17 днів тому
Nice one - I've an nearly 25 years old C4 Joker with also Spinergys and it's also an really fast bike. But you can't ride it on any UCI ruled events.
@dervakommtvonhinten517 9 днів тому
that saddle looks nutcrushing
@chrishophoto 18 днів тому
Interesting bike for sure! I did notice that the chain stays on the modern equipped Hotta look beefier. It would not surprise me if the layup was different as well. Most certainly the original fork combined with an old Spinergy wheel would be handful. Fun stuff!
@1ongava 16 днів тому
That fork as fast as it was, liked to fall apart and was flexi as. Shame
@tangoadvance8393 18 днів тому
That looks so much better than today’s modern bikes the UCI have a lot to answer for.
@ZesPak 14 днів тому
Tbf without UCI intervention in the '30s most race bikes would be recumbents. So yeah, they have a lot to answer for.
@tangoadvance8393 14 днів тому
@@ZesPak lol,😂
@michaelw2288 7 днів тому
The Lotus and Hotta wete developed independently, around the same time. Given the production method and materials, this shape was the best solution to putting the bits where they need to be. It was convergent not copying.
@techvelo 16 днів тому
FYI Those forks are super dangerous. I had Norm Alvis' track frame and two forks from the Saturn Team and they told me not to ride them because they had some of the forks fail at the fork mounts. Sure enough I had one fail while on some rollers, the fork mounts delaminated and just disintegrated. I still have the fork and plan to turn it into a lamp or something.
@hardcoreway 19 днів тому
- How many videos you will make about it? - All of it.
@Evaso_CC 19 днів тому
My dream bike back when I was at school. 😊
@JollyGiant0 18 днів тому
Loved this test, well done chaps. But..... You should have also tested Oli's Speedmax too, to see the difference there!
@gcn 17 днів тому
Next time maybe 😉
@Swampster70 18 днів тому
That the Canyon with road bars beat the orginal Hotta with tribars and a disk wheel, speaks volumes for how good modern road bikes are. But the Hotta does look great.
@gcn 17 днів тому
Looks vs speed it's always a tough question... good thing Canyon looks pretty great too 👌
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