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In 99.9% cases nobody would ever notice what kind of wood was used for dominos.

One error in the video is the Temu handjig is $20.48. It’s actually the saw refills that are $6.48. Temu is deceptive, you need to actually click on the product picture. In your video, it is not clicked so it defaults to the saw refill lower price $6.48. Totally get how this happened though. Temu does this on purpose.

When major companies use Chinese manufacturers the manufacturers have been known to make the same or similar products using cheaper materials in the same factory but sell them unbranded.

I am a crafter and have bought numerous items on Temu, I cannot say every single one was perfect for the job but 98% were brilliant and extremely cheaper than the named brands. I suppose it's the old saying "buyer beware".

I’ve got one of the Marita-fake hand routers bought from Amazon. It’s at least 5 years old and never missed a beat. It’s insanely loud but it lives in my basic router bench and it’s still going strong.

Rockler can write the word "Patent " with no reference number all they like. The fact is you cant patent a Brush lol. The only rip off is Rocklers price

@1:43, I’ll buy the Temu straight edge for $40 rather than pay $150.00 for the Woodpecker. The tolerance is well within the range for even the most demanding woodwork. Remember, when you cut a piece of wood you are introducing a slight error , a deviation from the measurement.

It doesn't matter whether it's a rip off or not, the main thing is that it's cheaper than the original and it does what it's supposed to do. I don't know why temu is so bad-mouthed everywhere, it sells things for the small wallet that have senseless prices elsewhere. I'd rather buy something for $5 that wobbles a bit than the same product for three times the price. Then I just put something under it and it stopped wobbling. I have been buying from Temu for the last few years and I will be buying there for the next few years too. Why ? Simple answer: The price makes the difference.

To be honest, the GRR-RIPPER Patents have expired. But, I will point out that we support our products. When you cut into a GRR-RIPPER leg, you can buy a new one. If you have questions on how to use your GRR-RIPPER, we answer the phones here in Florida.

Prices on Temu do go up and down frequently due to sales, but the good thing is if within 30 of your purchase you notice a lower price, they will refund you the difference

"silicon" (rhymes with gone) is a brittle metal used in making chips (computer style), silicone (rhymes with hone) is a rubbery material

"The Microjig is not much of a price difference." From $64 to $41.98 is a 22.86% difference and is still pretty good.

EMT here, I have run multiple calls involving that chainsaw head grinder wheel thing. The fact they market it to beginners is even worse. In my opinion that shouldn’t be sold to general public. Mishaps with those are MESSY. Thanks for your amazing videos by the way David! You’ve made me a better woodworker.

3:23 its common for chinesium products to use original discarded molds that have been worn or damaged to make cheaper products. You occasionally even see tool marks where the original branding has been removed.

The problem is you went into this challenge with a bias. If you were on the poorer side and wanted a hobby on the cheap would you buy these items? Every item you touched you already had an opinion on before you tried it.

Great video! I recently saw routers, jigsaws, angle grinders and a lot more on hardware store shelves in the Philippines on a recent visit. The stuff looked (colorwise) exactly like DeWalt, Makita, Bosch, and the like. Clearly knock-offs, and at similar prices to Temu, likely from the same factories, I'd guess. The tools worked - I didn't have a choice on what to buy and use - but they didn't feel durable at all and the grinder got very hot very quickly. Knock-off stuff will take over here in the USA too, for sure Average Joe doesn't know anything better and just cares about price.

I think the difference in sound between the Makita and the knockoff is air movement. It sounds like the Makita has a powerful fan blowing over the motor, while the temp has much less air movement. Which would explain why the temu one heated up so quickly, as well.

About the Temu vs. Rockler glue kit: When you do injection molding the molds have a certain number of uses before they are no longer guaranteed to be on spec with the tolerances or surface finish. Sometimes these overdue molds are used beyond their approved lifespan and the resulting products are dumped into a "discard" pile, which someone will sometimes sell off as a no-name copy. This is probably not the case here because an important difference is the debossed Rockler logo. This COULD be because pre-production molds don't necessarily have these details added until the prototyping is well and truly over with. The surfaces aren't polished to the same degree either. Such pre-production molds are also sometimes used for knockoff products after hours. I would hazard a guess that this is what happened here.

Consider that Rockler is the ripoff. Ripping off the American consumer for 10X the actual cost of a product. And that is just one in a million examples of the same thing going on. Go buy a designer watch for $300-$400 and I almost guarantee you it was made in a Chinese factory that sells them with the little logo on the face for $30-$40.

3:20 Nah dude, that's the same exact mold. What often happens is the factory just uses cheaper raw materials in the same machinery and dies they made for the original company.

The pocket hole jig looks to be "inspired by" the Massca M1, which is about $100-120, depending on what accessories you get. The Massca is a solid piece of engineering.

You are doing really well keeping these fun. Loved this one. Don't let it get stale!

cameraman's reaction, $1,000,000 Temu's level of quality, $0.02.

The fact that I got a temu ad right before this video has me dying 😂😂

In Australia, the Microjig ripper is AUD$129.. and I got the Temu version for $49.

It would be interesting to do a video on Temu vs Harbor Freight. They have a pocket hole jig that looks similar to that one, and HF is the same price as Temu (actually $10 cheaper on sale right now). Their coping saw is $6.

I was wondering about the gripper. I saw it. So I’m happy you are reviewing it

I was on Alibaba and saw a pellet grill that was a Traeger. The lid was blank but when I looked closely the lower support between the legs near the ground was indeed stamped Traeger. Sometimes brand named things made in China are sold without the brand name.

Now that you have all of these knockoffs, I would be interested in seeing you make a project using them compared to the "real" or name brand products to see how they compare.

I’d love to see Rockler try and go after the CCP. I’d watch that if it was a documentary.

Temu will give you a price adjustment if a product's price drops. You can get the difference back. You can check for price adjustments every day, even after you receive the product. For about a month.

Great review thanks. One point. I have a Katsu hand router AND the Makita. They look identical and feel just the same in operation. Makita: £129, Katsu £29.99

The pocket hole jig device looks like the base model of the kreg jig. It's the one I own and I have to make manual adjustments for board fit. The temu one I probably wouldn't use due to how the drill bit doesn't fit as well. The drill bit will probably smooth the bore, but that dulls the bit and possibly puts some slop into the bore.

I bought a track saw square on Temu that is outstanding. I also picked up some aluminum miter slot bars to make table saw jigs instead of using wood. Both products are really good.

I have a Kreg Master pocket hole jig that has the same screw and nut board thickness adjustment as this Temu Jig.

I purchased all kinds of what-nots from Temu, you know those cutsie but unnecessary things almost once a month, never had a bad experience. Their return policy is excellet.

I've had a palm router from HF for maybe 5-6 years, and it looks nearly identical to the TEMU one. The plastic depth lock thingy is still intact, surprisingly, but it never has inspired much confidence. I think it was around $50, but it has worked just fine for my first forays into woodworking. I will replace it with a more quality tool at some point, but I've for sure gotten my money's worth out of it.

The heat generated by that router is going to cause those plastic clamping parts to fail even sooner.

I bought a automotive hose clamp tool that with rhe exception of a decal the product looked to and worked as the name brand. 12.00 vs 120.00 is worth a try. I have bought some stuff that is so much smaller in size that is is more of a novelty than a tool. Great video! I would like to see you make somthing out of just Temu merchandise.

The picture window is looking great in the background!

Great video and series like this. I wonder if the next one where you will rank the buys, if you rank them before you open just seeing the listing, and then rerank after and see if there is a difference. Keep up the great content!

i have bought a few things from Temu and have been happy with my purchases except for one . i ordered some fire starting rope , was supposed to be 4 pcs of 1" rope soaked in some kind of accelerant . about 4" long each . . . i did get 4 pcs and they were soaked in accelerant . . . but they were only 1/4 inch rope about 2.5" long . yeah that was the last order i made .

That glue tray /brush/speader. is great in the kitchen. putting pizza sause on is great even coverage using the trowel..

I've been waiting for a video like this :D The pocket hole jig looks like a direct rip off from Masca Products. The palm router looks very similar to the Harbor Freight router I bought on sale for $20.

Great video! As someone who can’t afford to the get the most pricey tools this is quite handy. As an ex power tool repairman the router is a ripoff but of the makita cheaper range “maktec”.

4:33 The patent on the Grr-Ripper expired a while back and there are a number of outfits like Milescraft who are making very similar devices. That said, TEMU could've at least changed the colors to be less blatant.

Problem with TEMU is not the products, is the invasion of privacy and possible fraud.

Me: I’m going to buy this! David: immediately guilts me into not doing that

maybe the jig holes were drilled by a metric bit and you were using a standard drill bit to demonstrate the jig. thats why it was tight. metric 13mm is a little smaller than 1/2 inch. As for the router. using two wrenches only takes an extra second which i prefer as the lock button will wear out eventually. Love these videos

The Kreg jig thing is almost exactly a kreg k4 (the one before the k5). It was also called the master system at one point.

Dave, these videos are so enjoyable. I look forward to them almost as much as your builds. Thanks for always providing great content.

The Katsu routers from Amazon are £39 and are identical to the Makita ones. I'm lazy and hate changing bits. So I have 2 makitas and 3 Katsus. They're great.

that temu pocket hole jig is the bluth cornballer of woodworking.

I have that trimmer. It works absolutely fine except to avoid over tightening the base to the housing I sanded the inside the plastic with 60 grit. Now I don't have to tightening it anywhere near I used to to get it firm. Built heaps of stuff with it ,no problems.

Interesting products. It's amazing how close some of the products get for such a small amount of money. FYI: Silicon - An element with a metallic luster, it's what computer chips are made from Silicone - It's a polymer made from siloxane, the rubbery stuff you seal your bath with. Silica - SiO2, think sand. (Yes I realise I'm simplifying the real life examples)

As usual, terrific tool comparison video David! The take away for me is that "you get what you pay for" & "buyer beware"! 🤔🤔

I have a red Maktec trim router (Maktec being a cheaper Makita brand) that has that same plastic sleeve depth adjustment. The TEMU copy may be a copy of that Maktec router rather than the one you were showing. The plastic sleeve is still going well after many years. What has failed (twice) however, is the metal screw to tighten it! The scale on the side is quite useful, as a guide to how much you need to adjust the depth by (not as an absolute measurement, but a relative one).

The cheap palm router probably got hot quick because it uses a smaller, less powerful motor: you can hear it bog down when it's biting the wood, whereas the Makita didn't really care. The more you load a motor/the closer it gets to stall, the more current it pulls and heat it has to dissipate. It'd probably be *fine* for a hobbyist, but I'd sooner buy a used Makita and replace the brushes than get a cheap "inspired by" product cranked out of a random factory somewhere with a label on it that overstates its abilities (if it's not spinning as fast as the Makita, you can bet they lie about its other specs too).

Grizzly offers a modest palm-style router that comes with both a fixed base and a plunge base for $87, currently on sale for $78. (they call it a "laminate trim router") I've had mine for a few years, and I've been thoroughly impressed with it. Only issue to come to mind is that the speed control dial has become a little loose, so it may change speed slightly with a lot of vibration in the cut.

I've made several woodworking related purchases from Temu. Overall, I've been very pleased with the quality. One item was a small drill I thought would be useful for drilling inside holes for scroll sawing. The drill chuck was poor and the motor was weak. I did a return through Temu and it took less than a minute for a refund and I didn't have to send the drill back. Impressive customer service..

Until you discover that the Temu supplier is the same supplier to your "genuine supplier"

sometimes the items are made in the same factory and because of detailed specifications the more expensive one looks/feels better and the other uses lower quality materials to ge the same result. Most tool manufacturers do this every day

That pocket hole jig looks a lot like the old school kreg K4 and I think you have the K5.

I am loving these videos. You are doing us all a great service...buying the tools we see advertised and testing them so we don't have to. Thank you. Great stuff.

I'm in Import/Export logistics biz. Usually, those items (everything) is made in Asia. American companies send ALL their plans/blue prints to China/India for productions. Smaller companies may produce in the U.S. but they cannot compete with lower prices from China/India. Some Items may be different, but work just as well for less. We in America are greedy. Now looks what is happening.

You say of the Woodpecker and the Temu rulers: "The size that they do have in common is 600 millimeter", but obviously the Temu is way shorter. Either it isn't the 600mm one or you have been ripped there first.

The microjig gripper is off patent isn’t it? you can get them from heaps of company’s now miles craft makes one for example, also really don’t know how there is a patent in the us on the silicon tray they’ve been around forever and they didn’t invent the silicon so what is actually patented just curious. Look for most I agree with you but for the rest of the world and especially for new people getting into woodworking the rise of the china market is great because it makes our hobby more accessible and also keeps suppliers honest. Great vid as always. Also don’t be fooled incra copied a few gwanui and wnew tools a little while ago

Nice video and the 1st I;ve seen from you as I'm a mechanic/fabricator not a wood worker. However I do have a few things to add and I've said this to a few people. If your just starting out in your field your usually better off buying name brand used tools and equipment from a pawn shop and use them until they wear out then buy new. Doing that lets you experience different brands with different features and find what you like best without spending a ton. Also think about how often you will use a tool. If it's something you won't use often the cheaper tool or used tool might last you a long time. Something that you will use daily or even weekly and depend on your better off buying a new name brand tool with a warranty.

I had to laugh at the pocket hole jig and the comments etc about adjusting it. I have a very early Kreg Jig and the way it adjusts for board thickness is the same as the Temu one. I’ve never pinched myself with mine though. Bought mine when it first came out years ago.

I have one of those knock-off palm routers like the one you showed. I can confirm the plastic sleeve has caused me problems more than once. The screw/nut system stopped tightening properly after a while, so I used a different bolt/nut system. I got it for a one-off project I was working with my son and it did the job for the price I paid. I probably would consider buying the actual brand name if I had to buy again, simply because of the extra quality and speed control. Particularly, the depth adjustment would be a nice thing to have versus the almost non-existent one on the knock-off product. I bought my knock-off from Amazon, not Temu. But still looks just like the one you have in your video. Thank you for doing this video. It was informative and fun to watch.

The turbo plane thing looked terrifying.

Nice video! Btw there is an even better pocket hole jig from enjoywood (yes I know), around the same price. They all have much better build than kreg that are made out of plastic. And yeah I would never risk my life with that cheap router lol

Great video! I really like the way you explain things... you get my attention, already hit the subscribe button 😉

In places like China, Japan, Mexico and other large manufacturing areas, 3rd shift products are made and sold as knock offs. Gigantic warehouses that make all types of goods have 3 shifts. Day, night and a 3rd shift in between. The industrial machines used to make goods often cost the company more money and do more damage turning them off and on that they are just kept constantly running. The morning and night crews make products for these name-brand companies and hit their daily quotas. The workers making the goods are paid shit wages from these companies, but that 3rd shift is where the workers make their money. The same molds, material and packaging is used, but they remove the maker mark to avoid getting in trouble also if there's any items that have defects and don't pass quality control standards they are given to workers, who then turn around and sell them online wish, eBay, Temu etc. That's why you'll see identical a 100 times over from all different sellers, because those online sellers also work at the plant manufacturing the items. There's also giant indoor and outdoor markets set up selling these goods and you can buy name-brand quality goods minus the name-brand for a fraction of the price. A coworker told me about the 3rd shift after spending a few years in China teaching.

I bought some generic spring clamps from Temu and to be fair they’re fairly decent. Maybe not as good as a high end make, but certainly equal to the cheap diy tools sold in Aldi and Lidl.

This is a great video, thanks! I couldn’t help but feel that the TEMU products are more an indication of what the authentic products actually cost to manufacture and we just pay the inflated price… I agree that they have the R&D costs, and also the quality is far greater in the authentic products… but likely most of these are being made during the night shift in the same factory in China and just shipped to a different buyer. Ultimately the authentic tools are the way to go if you can afford them… but there are good deals out there if you can do some research… just don’t reward the obvious rip off merchants!

I used to work at a leading U.S.A. print shop. A celebrity made a large purchase where for part of it (the largest part), we were instructed to tear off the forien labels and replace them with our own. Something similar happens with retailers. When quality of a product meets a standard it is then on the shelves at say a department store. If the quality control determines that the finished product is not up to par then the SAME ITEM(s) are offered at discount retailers.

So fun to watch. I don't have any of the name brand tools because of cost but probably won't shop Temu either.

The pocket hole jig looks like a ripoff of the massaca

That angle grinder disk looked dangerous the moment you took it out of the package. I genuinely expected it to fly apart and nail-bomb half your workshop and brother.

About 30 years ago, I worked in a local factory. At the end of the assembly line, there were rolls of different brand labels, that were applied to the *SAME* product, all at different prices. Also, there is no "Patent Office" in China, Taiwan, Viet Nam, Malaysia, etc. so you will see blatant copying on most products, some with only slight changes, between factories, just out of courtesy. Other times- engineers in the U.S. will sell a design overseas, and the product will immediately be copied by 10 different companies. Electronics are a prime example of this. Buy 5 cheap $12 USD dashcams, take them apart. They'll be all the same inside & out; the graphics & menu will be slightly different, but it's the same device. Nowadays, with many common products- you're only paying for a name. Great Value (Walmart) corn flakes are merely Kellogg's 2nds. There is no corn flake factory in Bentonville, AZ. Products made the wrong color, texture, or consistency for a "name brand" are fine for a knockoff. (American) companies sell huge lots of products on "wholesale" markets, not open to the public. The buyer merely slaps on their own labels & packaging.

You should get an IR camera attachment to measure the heat of various tools such as the hand router.

Apart from the Makita knock-off, I’d go for all the Chinese made variants. The other onos are not worth the price difference …

Great video. Do the legitimate companies of these products see these videos in the same light as we do or do they see it as a possible advertisement to buy the cheaper alternative. I think you do a great job making sure everyone knows that the alternative is also cheaply made

Those factories have been doing this for decades. They make contracts for 1000 brand jackets or an electronic. Once they met their contractual obligation, they continue making the same product and selling them as generic or different no name brands. Quality is often as good as the original. I have found remote controllers that are identical to ones made by Sony, but without the Sony logo

Fun fact as long as the product is not 100% exactly the same ie it can be 1mm difference in size and or a slightly different colour, this means that its not a copy but a new product. Even though they look identical there not so are not in violation of the patent.

The way they get around the patents is by ignoring them 😂

There is a large and seemingly ever growing percentage of people who don’t care/understand the implications of buying knockoffs. It’s cheap and that’s all that matters to a lot of people. This applies to products, music, likenesses and so much more. While I understand being strapped for cash and having a need to fill, and while that’s a truly valid real world concern, at the end of the equation, when boiled down to its simplest form, from the top down: it’s theft.

The pocket hold jig is a copy of the Massca Products, about $120

Since you said the router got hot so quick, a useful follow up would be to run it longer and measure the temp with a temp gun or flir IR camera. Cheap tools are known to burn up quicklyor at least overheat.

Until now I had no idea what temu was 😂😂 I get 3 emails a day from them !! Great review

Same way Amazon gets around it. They get cease and desist letter. They change company name the next day. At some point Amazon and Walmart should be liable for their market place.

I'm a graphic artist and the amount of fake ads on Temu is crazy. Hue switched clothed, models' heads photoshopped onto different bodies, images even stolen (Vanquish Fitness especially), to name a few. It's insane.

This is what happens when products are sent abroad for manufacturing. A US patent means nothing overseas.

Another great video as usual always love your energy and enthusiasm in your videos about everything you do keep up the amazing work.

I have bought a number of items from Temu and have had no problems. I guess I've been lucky or bought things that were not too cheap. Their tracking and delivery are better than in some cases than Amazon. I am still waiting for delivery of an order from Amazon which has twice been extended. All in all I hve been happy with Temu.

This palm router is actually a thing for those who build their DIY CNC router. You just mount it in carriage and go slow and low, for a cheap price they ask it's actually fits good in cheap DIY cnc's project that people build on their holidays.

In the UK as in England - I bought a Katsu palm router for the same sort of price and it is much more similar to the Makita…. So not on TEMU but it’s great and like you say you can’t go wrong for a palm router for 33 bucks???

The TEMU ad that always gets me are the storage bins. They are so freaking expensive at the big box store. Then I click on the ad, it takes me to the page, then I'm sad because the bins are tiny and not that much cheaper. Thanks for another great video! You should make a prediction on what rank the things will be before you unbox, and see how close you get.