EWU seems to always request an interview with the killer, sometimes they aren’t interested/not possible. Sometimes they’re narcissistic sociopaths who don’t mind relishing in their crimes. Thanks for all the hard work EWU

He hasn’t talked to anyone else about it they both have been trying to appeal the whole time

EWU does really have the best team on UKposts for their type of content, lawyers, journalists.

He talking to filth, nothing insane about that. No different from scraping shet off the bottom of your shoe. He killed a young girl that took him for a good friend.

agreed, this is incredible.

Agree. Its so bizzare to me as someone who has a lot of empathy to hear people talk who don't have that capability. Like he doesn't say anything about Cassie or her family its just all about him. He wishes he didn't kill her so he didn't have to be sitting in jail forever. Or he wishes he could have gotten away with it and kept killing. Sickening to hear

Not defending him but it could be hard for him to talk about it.

@@user-ht2cf5de3nAfter 17 years he should be apologetic

Well... he did murder her... I don't think murderers would tend to feel sympathy for their victim....

A very few do seem like they have real remorse. Not these guys.

I was going to, then realized my family are people, so not sure what to do now

I hope your a good cop. So many corrupted officers who are sworn to protect us

​@CrazyLovedOnesE right? It's a profession that attracts a lot of power hungry psychopaths.

@@tellemstevedave5559 1% cops are honest/worthy,90% cops are mindless doing what they're told, might even tear gas their own mother is caught rioting ,9 %cops are evil power hungry and corrupt

@@clarenceworley8134😂🤣

150 percent agreed. I don't believe in the 'poor me' circumstantial environmental bullshit for one second.

i still blame myself for “acting up” and getting bad grades in high school for pretty much the same reasons he committed literal murder lol, some people can’t be helped

Exactly! He and Torey knew far too well that murder is an ENORMOUS felony that has CONSEQUENCES that comes with it and had PLENTY of time to reconsider murdering Cassie and still went ahead with it. You reap what you sow you buffoons🤷‍♂️

Sounds like democrats; here are some of the democrat highlights abou the Americans who wont submit to what the dems want: Youre deplorables, f you, you support dictators, you dare vote for who you want, you don't like your money being spent by the government on illegal immigrants and foreign wars, your petty concerns about your food safety and financial future disgust us.... Sure sounds like how democrats treat the people who dont do what the authoritarian left wants.

That’s what every narcissist does. Nothing is ever their own fault. It’s everyone else’s always.

Boom..EXACTLY

I’m a older guy and my father was working all the time when I was a kid. As an adult I too worked at least ten hour to fifteen hour days and was on call for many weekends. I know that my sons would prefer that I was home more, but they understood that I had to work. Now my sons work long hours. This is just the way things are and most kid’s experience this and should not be used as an excuse for murder.

yay society slays! amirit sisters? gotta work that wagecagey slave hours to prove being a man!

Ong I’m 20 and around 2 years ago is where my mama stopped working 3 jobs n just worked one never really got to hang or be with her never felt the need to go murder a friend or do some sick shi like he did

There are majority outcomes but everyone's experiences are not the same. You don't have his brain. You didn't meet Torey and become friends with him. You didn't have his family. It isn't excuses, it is his reasons. This person is exactly where he should be because no one has made excuses for him. I for one hope he never gets out.

Idk maybe because nobody asked him "are you sorry for what you did". But he did say he is remorseful. Is saying "im sorry for doing xyz" the only way you can be sorry for something? You can not like him(and i dont either) but dont lie. He's obviously matured and knows what he did was wrong.

@@IconoclastXI 100% agree with this he sounds like he’s come to terms with what has happened and is remorseful it’s just a disconnect because everyone watching is expecting him to apologize and be on that when he himself has been through that stage.

@@Swerv0.he’s a sociopath. I don’t think you understand that he can’t change that. It’s a part of his personality.

How do you know he isn’t sorry when nobody even bothered to ask..? Besides it was Tony who was the mastermind behind this

Maybe he did and EWU cut it? Maybe they wanted him to look like a remorseless killer because that gets more views?

He and Torey did. Yep

He realised that it was wrong, not everyone can feel remorse. Not his fault that he can't force himself. He could've lied about being remorseful, but he didn't.

Do you think he chose to be a narcissistic psychopath?

Lack of psychology knowledge from people like you is wild and it makes you guys sharing your dumb opinion then thinking you are right.

I actually think they are just being honest. I think they got a lot of therapy. The first one - Brian - I think he shows lack of remorse and insight. I wonder what his biological parents were like....I would be interested in seeing if there could be a genetic component

Hence the life sentence

@@SueP-jg9vxI agree re his bio parents. I don’t think a 13 year old would have had good prenatal care. Her eggs wouldn’t have been great quality either.

Its not a lack of accountability. The guy is just answering the questions with a grown up mindset. He studders and fails to open up because age will make you see things a different way. Nobody would answer blantantly honest under these surcumstances. He did the best he could under pressure without sounding like a jackass. Thats the human thing to do

I can only imagine how completely and utterly terrified she was before these monsters ended her life -- the way she went was absolutely brutal.

no such thing as friends

Yep. A sadistic sociopath.

It wasn't that Long Ago, but today in 2024 you see it much more & worse. The Next Breaking News for Internet Fame.

Sick

He also made that comment “thank you for indulging me” regarding making this informative and educational, though it likely “won’t be.” Passive aggressive statements. Interesting.

It makes me feel safer and less scared when I see many comments like this. I am glad that people can see him through and understand that he is where he belongs. He is full of sympathy and tender feeling for himself. Disgusting.

Seriously. What a sicko. I know too many people like this.

As a teacher, his emotional maturity seems more like that of a 12 yr old. I wonder if he was educationally challenged too.

@@degengam2781 huh? what does the black community have anything to do with this and why are you comparing that to a murderer? genuinely confused what point you're trying to make here. also the fact that you're just assuming a random person eats meat so you can call them a murderer. you need therapy

Meh

yeah, as if 16 year olds dont know better than to commit murder

Teenagers are sooo unpredictable

Yet teenagers are still children..until they are adults

It makes me wonder what abusive background you come from

Yeah I agree it's sad they were so dumb that they got caught instantly. We have less content to watch now.

@@gregorykarpukhin2592wow that’s really insensitive. I watch a lot of true crime and I’ve never thought about it in terms of people getting killed so that I have something to watch

​@@gregorykarpukhin2592 freak. Troll.

@@gregorykarpukhin2592you’re a walking red flag huh?

​@@gregorykarpukhin2592💩🤡 Loser

Ill be praying for ur family sweetheart ❤

@@EmaAllen thank you for your prayers 🙏🏻

Jeez, I'm sorry to hear that.

He’s evil and I’m sorry for your loss

Yeah, he's so self-centered. He just talks matter-of-fact.

Well-stated

Amen , I was raised life is precious and to love others as you want to be loved.

People don't really seem to mature in jail it's like if you're 18 and you're 18 year old friend Goes to Jail and comes out at 21 everyone's 21 now and they're still stuck at 18 they want to do the same things everyone was doing when they were 18 they don't understand that things have moved on because they've been stuck in some sort of isolation

Yeah he’s very stunted.

if youre curious, him and torey are in a documentary called lost for life that was filmed in 2012 i believe. compared to torey he seems more mature.

Ya don’t say, Rick. Thanks for that brilliant deduction there bud.

@@LanieB88 you're welcome never getting your life I would make you my friend I would take you out for meals and walks on the beach I would help give you life advice on problems you're facing at work in your romantic relationships or even just family dynamic issues you are facing eventually I'll give you sound financially investment advice allowing you to retire 15 years earlier than you have previously planned respect me

I didn’t even connect the dots that he changed schools after the threat, so he couldn’t have done it with Torey

Well They both stabbed a girl to death. Doesn't matter who said what.

And give more murderers and rapists a platform to spew nonsense to 1,000,000+ people without taking any accountability?

@@GirlJay67 It does when he's claiming torey is the reason why he did it

its just incredible and ridiculous that someone decides to throw their whole life away like this

sociopath

@@spongebobd yep nothing but excuses and deflection

​@@spongebobdOh,yeah.💯

Yeah Cassie just "lost her life" like that, oops gone, no one provoked that loss of life whatsoever, especially not Brian and Torey huh. 🙄 He's a coward.

That made me cringe so hard. Ick.

Pathetic. Still doesn't feel bad about it. Hope he has an awful time in prison forever.

poor girl lost her future to these two violent idiots 😔

And I wonder what kind of "person in him" this created. Now he can enjoy its company in prison.

Fake empathy. Doesn't understand human emotions. Don't let him out.

I dont think your right, sure he worded it in that way but, but I dont think that's what he means

@@bigbandsnbeon it's exactly what he meant. he believes he needed to go through that experience (from crime to p;unishment) to become the 'man' he is today. which he believes is a better, more evolved human. it's his disorder speaking. he still views the entire experience as something that "happened to him'. seems he views his life before becoming a murderer as something that 'happened to him' as well.

​@@bigbandsnbeonyou need to wake up to what narcissistic behaviour is before A. You miss it in someone else and pay the price. B. You are/become one as you cannot distinguish what most of us can.

@@bigduphusaj162 that is how you three are interpreting it. but he continues to state that kids need to be helped or help themselves before they do what he did. which implies he would do the same. which implies that he does not believe it what was needed to happen but that it was what caused him to change. his lack of vocabulary to articulate this is what’s causing you to think he would still do it again to become who he is now. i do not believe that. that seems like a very black and white way of looking at it to me.

@@EmmaBadOne your putting words in his mouth. i never heard anything about being an evolved human. we’re all evolving humans. some of us do things that are more extreme no matter the age. and for what he did he belongs in prison forever. but i don’t think he believes he would do it again. you guys are making it seem like he’s saying what he did was okay to be become who he is. but he’s absolutely right. our past determines who we are and who we will become. so what are you guys saying exactly?

That’s why I had to click off, feels like I’m being lied to and don’t have the patience to sit through it

Simple, psychopath or sociopath.

That`s why the judge gave him life.

Psycho/sociopaths are wired differently…permanently.

I'm glad that EWU at least called him out on all of his lies. The interview doesn't paint him in a better light.

fucking aye bro

Too bad hell likely isn’t real and we need to administer justice here on earth. Your God isn’t listening and it certainly isn’t exacting any justice in this world.

@@bryankm2 you'll believe when you get there

​@@bryankm2found the redditor 😂😂😂

lol

Maybe he doesn’t want to mention her name directly, could be seen as disrespectful coming from him especially

They are not allowed to use the person name and he actually shows a lot or remorse in other interviews ,I was shocked by how sorry he is ,this interview is edited a lot

"my victim"

lol

Popular girl hated quiet friends so they give her a lesson.

Theyre dipshits

💯👏👏👏

It's really not that crazy that he gave an interview seeing that there's 😂an entire documentary that they both participated in like 5 years ago.

@@JohnnyOla511 They weren't commenting on him giving an interview - their exclamation was for EWU being the one to get it.

I’m

I dont think your right, sure he belongs in prison forever, but your just saying bull shit, how did he absolve himself from the crime?

@@bigbandsnbeon When did I say that anything about him absolves him of his crime?

@@bigbandsnbeon Also, what the hell are you talking about in general lmao I was offering an opinion based on the characteristics he has and the different ways he was avoiding accountability. I’m quite literally saying he’s trying to absolve himself from his crime by blaming others. I’m not saying he did so successfully. Literally what are you going on about lol

@@sad.jackfr00t he just said he may have not committed the crime had he never met tory. and they asked him that question. he wasn’t trying to do anything but help people understand why he did what he did. sure. he can just say “i killed her and no one made me do it” but we don’t need to hear that. we know that. so offering information about the dynamics between two people is more effective in my opinion. i’m not sure what your wanting from him. he knows what he did was wrong and explains that in detail. your just saying he’s trying to get something out of this. he said he doesn’t know whether or not he should be reevaluated and i think that’s an honorable statement.

@@bigbandsnbeon well, you obviously don’t know a whole lot about mental illness or psychology. There’s nothing more I can say to explain that to you other than re-read my comment and rewatch the video with it in mind. He’s being manipulative with his wording. He said a whole lot more than just he might not have committed the crime if he hadn’t met Tory. He never expressed remorse for killing Cassie, and he never says her name. He calls her by “MY victim.” He’s blaming teachers and peers and his own parents for not seeing the “red flags” when, realistically, he’s the one responsible for committing the crime. No one else is responsible for HIS actions or HIS behavior. Never in this interview does he say “I’m so sorry for killing Cassie, and I’m sorry how my actions have infinitely impacted her family/friends and the community.” THAT is an honorable statement, not his bullshit excuses and attempts at manipulation.

Can’t see him getting paroled, I’m sure everyone around him sees what we see

Not at all, he's very eloquent and clearly intelligent, he's just trying to make the best of his life and has come to turn with his fate, clearly he wouldn't have done this if he wasn't socially alienated. I feel bad for him, Torey on the other hand is a good example of what you just said. I feel bad for Brain.

@@Humblemogger yikes are you gullible... get some help

@@Humblemogger Your actually right his other interviews show how clearly remorseful he is and he is so shocked that Torey isn't .

@@keidwyn I agree, when I was 17 years old I spent 2 years of my life incarcerated fighting my case, looking at a maximum 28 year sentence. To know that your life is probably over and to hold yourself mentally responsible for what you've done at such a young age and to accept for fate takes incredible intelligence and mental strength. Anyone that shits on Bryan after all he says shows me they're emotionally immature, probably still kids themselves.

@@Humblemogger I think there are a huge amount of people who have lived relatively normal lives and never made any really bad decisions that end up with police involved ,I was in care since a baby and at 13 I was dared to scare a woman in a toilet block ,I feel a lot of remorse and shock when I think back to how I did it without any feeling for the person but I was in a lot of emotional pain and with none of my needs being met I wasn't able to feel much for others ,I was basically in survival mode ,Its quite easy for people to judge what they down know and I also think it helps them feel good to point fingers ,it gives them a sense of satisfaction , a kind o f Look how bad they are !!! Im so much better than them .OF course I agree when its warranted but this kid I think is genuine and very remorseful ,I too am impressed with his ability to have achieved maturity and is evidently self aware which cant be a easy thing to achieve whilst inside .

He clearly cant comprehend it, his brain doesn't work that way. He feels zero remorse and never will. He's a psychopath.

@@bobbygetsbanned6049 I think he's a psychopath too. The more i think about it and what he's done, how he talks about things. The more i think he is just a psychopath and that he can't comprehend things like a normal person should or would. People like that can probably be helped to an extent, but idk if they will ever be able to think like someone who isn't a psychopath. Therefore he should be separated and locked from normal society.

Exactly. Why do we want a redemption ark?

@@Rainingsandstone He seems to think he'd be fine out in society. He seems to know all the right things to say, but I hope they never let him out. I feel like if he was truly remorseful for what he'd done, I'd have more inclination to give him a second chance. I think I look for redemption stories because I don't want to believe that any human being could be so blase about ending another human. Her brother is clearly still mourning every day and Draper sits there saying, "I was a kid. Movies made me do it. I should get another chance at life." But he shouldn't because Cassie won't.

People have done way worse and got way less time I just saw a show dude killed 2 people and got 15 years

We like to think murderers are so sick with guilt but they rarely are. The fact that these two could commit such a heinous murder tells you all you need to know about who they are.

Facts he still seems like a kid

@@rolofox1046Yes, emotionally. He has clearly not matured in prison.

they aren't genx

You must've not followed the story before. It was clear HE was the sociopath/psychopath/antisocial in the duo and Brian went along. Brian seemed on the ASD spectrum.

Idk, he seems pretty developmentally delayed still, 16 year old is still a stupid child in many cases, but especially when you're on the spectrum.

Arrested development.. no pun intended lol

Yeah, but you don't have the raw tapes. None of us know how the interview actually went, we are only given a heavily edited final product created to earn monetized clicks.

​@@Bridge_with_a_Tabsolutely correct. Good pun, too😂

@@jacobpitts211 yikes... get help.

That's prison though. A place full of overgrown children. Its hard for someone to actually 'grow up' in there.

He is institutionalised. They have done a really good job on him. Probably an almost model prisoner. That makes life easier on everyone. He is probably treated like he has made some amazing breakthroughs and that (combined with his reading) is where he gets his sense of self from now.

He understands perfectly, you don't understand him.

@@mikesprigg5495 I watch these videos, because I do want to try and understand a bit, but I am so so so glad I don’t

Brian sounds totally ghey for Torey

Who gives a fuck?

He dod say her name at least once. But later referring to her as "my victim" was telling.

In the "Lost for life" documentary he does start his interview with "I met Cassie Stoddart in sophomore year...". I get that EWU doesn't want to sound like they're defending him but the constant virtue-signalling over non-issues like this for half the video is kinda annoying. This case is like "Internet True Crime 101", it's nearly two decades old and Brian has done multiple interviews already. At this point just focus on the new "information", don't bother with over-analyzing the same old stuff.

​@cilleypilled yeah and her name is Cassie. Why you trying to dehumanize her like that?

@@Shalnn Agree

@cilleypilled no, I mean Cassie

I agree, but he is her child regardless of having murdered someone though. Parents generally do (and should) love their children unconditionally and view them as their "baby" for the rest of their life.

She isn't Cassies mum.

What photos?

Where can I see those autopsy photos?

Torey’s mom and dad did an interview where they basically said Torey was an angel and Brian dragged him into this situation. Torey just sat there while she spoke then said Yeah he made me. I think he’s sicker than Brian to manipulate his parents this way.

Yep, that's something I have consistently reminded my girls of when they were growing up and would think their lives were over if they lost a friendship at school. Once we leave high school and become adults, almost EVERYONE adapts to their own life as adults and loses touch with most friends with the addition of careers, adulthood responsibilities and building their own families.

Yeah kids don’t realize just how much your whole life changes after high school...

I had friends in high school. Now I live a miserable existence of no real friends and working to live. I wish I could die but I’m too much of a coward. Life isn’t better, life just is.

This is the most restarded comment in the entire section lmao. Yeah, having a lack of true connections surely doesn't matter, lol. I'm sure being a loner is great for development and one's mental health. (Hint: it's not) My goodness, the stupidity people exude is astonishing. It will never fail to amaze me how moronic people are

It do affect your upringing. Its like saying it doesn't matter you were fat at 15y old becouse you still can hit the gym. You still can be harassed/made fun of/not talk enough with others/etc. and that will influence how you perceive life in the later stages

Yeah he hasnt grown at all except for saying that he's remorseful for what he did, and saying what he did was stupid, and saying that he's okay with staying in prison for the rest of his life. Other than changing completely and totally from what he was at 16, he hasnt changed a bit

@@IconoclastX Exactly. Prison is the only place he belongs next to being in the ground. The analysis that he is a narcissist was for sure accurate. I remember reading once that a psychopath is very obsessive about appearances and status in whatever element pleases them. Like they will buy an insanely expensive dog for the awe and status of it, decide they want to go on vacation and cant be bothered to find a dog sitter, and come home to it dead and just shrug it off and get a new one, as an example of sorts. I think they mentioned this in the vid, but living things and people are nothing but objects to them that they can pick and choose as stepping stones to get to the place they want, and get what they want. Its a trip

@@IconoclastX You were actually convinced by that interview? The only thing that guy actually regrets is getting caught.

What he did is unforgiveable. That said, peer pressure can lead people to do horrible things. He grew up in a cult and he let his desire for belonging blind him to what he did. When I was a teen I did horrible things to my peers because I thought it would make my friends think I was cool. I always regret how I put people down and made their lives miserable. Its unfortunate I can never fix what I did.

@@RealLifeIronMan I feel awful for tons of things that I did throughout my youth as well. Here’s the thing though brother, you and I have an overwhelming sense of regret and shame for what we have done. This man clearly does not possess the ability to do the same.

Sorry, but he never said he didn't deserve what he got. He never tried to excuse himself, instead, he was trying to find answers to the question of why he did what he did. It's far from me to defend him but between the two killers he is the only one who has shown any remorse or human emotion. Just check the documentary thta was filmed with them among other teenage killers.

@@Orchidrise75 and I’m sorry, you would fall for the manipulation of a psychopath as it seems you’re not seeing through his language even when explained in the video. He distances himself a LOT from his actions when he discusses it. There’s so much passive in his description as if it was just happening all around him and he just joined in. Yes he throws a bone and admits he did it and says he wish « someone didn’t have to lose their life ». Are you really unable to see how passive this language is? A remorseful person would be harsher on themselves and speak of their actions actively and regrettably. He is trying to grasp at anything to excuse what he did while trying to appear like he understands what he did. He contextualize a very generic upbringing and watching horror movies. It is obvious throughout that he’s speaking in a way to manipulate the audience. He’s sorry for himself and focused on how he wished his life wasn’t the way it is, even if he knows it’s because of what he did he still continuously distances himself from what it actually means what he did. That Cassie will never live, that her person ceased to exists, that they brutalized her in the most horrible way. They were preying on her, they legitimately were terrifying her til they stabbed her 29 times. He is burying that as how she just lost her life and not the inhumanity they showed her and she will never breathe again. Have you seen the case before? Have you watched the video and listened to what he said? He rationalize it as just a teenage desire for fame and lack of understanding consequences. 16 yrd olds understand the consequences of killing someone, he is externalizing his psychopathy to others because he can’t understand other’s feelings. He acts like it just happened to him rather than him making the purposeful choices to get to it. He is not remorseful for anything else than being stuck in prison and having ruined his life, not for what Cassie endured and her loss of life.

@@thisiskitta I wish I could upvote this comment several times, very well said and I agree.

@@Orchidrise75 Yikes. You should not go around announcing you're this gullible and naive lmao

@@thisiskitta Exactly!!!

There's many kids that are influenced by UKposts pranksters. They straight up commit crimes because they are influenced by youtubers. All it takes is an immature group of kids to start egging each other on.

Here's to "Boobs for a split second" 😂

@@john_hunter_ No doubt that youtube influences people and we were all influenced to do things or dress some way. Pranks don't involve hurting people, at least not seriously. Brian, I don't understand how you could be influenced enough to think of Cassie as less than a human being, especially since she was your friend. I've been to war, been shot at and bombed, seen a kid blow himself up to kill Marines. I understand how the mind can detach itself and how you can feel less than human and I even understand how that life is cheap to some people. I can't understand detaching enough to take an innocent life. I'm no saint, but I'll pray for you.

"...Whether or not they deserve to be imprisoned is beside the point. The families deserve justice, and if that means they never get out of prison, so be it...." You mix something up here. Prisons exists for 3 reasons only. 1. Punishment 2. Decrease risk to peaceful population 3. Rehabilitation What you mean is revenge. This is not a goal in a free society.

@sierraecho884 Call it what you want lady. I call it justice. If Cassie had been my sister I would want her murderers to be locked away forever.

It's disgusting, it's obviously biased and falacious. It's a money-grab for the publisher too. And where did the profits go? Legal defense? This is what civil lawsuits are about.

who’s mom? brian?

@@nagijuu Torey's

Honestly, this interview changed my perspective, when I learned about this a few years ago I thought Torrey was the mastermind, I just felt like it was him, but now I believe Brian was, he does interview, comes and basically blames everyone but himself, stays objective about his life experience and upbringing, but never shows any sympathy or genuine accountability. Maybe that is why Torrey refuses to do interviews because he understand that person he was and is.

Yea best channel true facts!

"There should be no law against killing people" I wonder who taught him that...

I mean I like the channel too but these comments, so sycophantic, are annoying. They're just here to get the likes and the loves, not to say anything interesting or new. They pop up with every new video, like fungi.

@@kumaranvij yeah I didn't learn anything from this video that isn't already online, I guess I was expecting more. I'm not sure why ppl are so *Enthusiastically Impressed*

@@stephanies5478he’s talking about the comments not the video and wym it’s a whole exclusive interview with one of the murderers goofy

When they asked him if there were any signs, he talked about dressing like Dylan and Eric and talking about them. Like all edgy teens didn’t do that at that time. He definitely is trying to act like someone should have stopped him. He is never going to take accountability.

@@Pen.nail.timate He is responsible for his actions, but as a society, we should also try to prevent such things from happening. The homicide rate is not the same at all in all countries. Which means something. We can't just do nothing and hope that people won't kill. There are things that we can do, and should do. When do we start?

Better than to keep using her name. I think that would be more disrespectful.

@@Harry-fk5ofYup

i mean hes legit saying "my victim" lmao. pretty weird.@@Harry-fk5of

@@Harry-fk5of how so?

Absolutely, I get a serious creepy vibe from his words. This is not a remorseful person.

Omigosh ! He doesn't even say Cassie. 8:25 Refers to her as *'my victim'* 🤢

Yup he wasn't sneaking around and lying because he felt it was OKAY!

Tell me you know nothing about nature vs nurture research without telling me 😂 I could pick apart your life mistakes saying “you were old enough to know it was wrong” 🙄

@@ISayNukemYou realize there are Police that sneak around and lie, yet it is okay and highly encouraged/praised. But by your logic police don’t sneak around and lie because it’s not okay 🙄

Him blaming a movie and a lack of a father figure just shows how he is just a narc.

It's making himself the main character. He doesn't care about Cassie at all, and never did. She's not real to him. He's the only one that matters, and cannot comprehend that nobody gives a shit about what he "learned" or "the person he's become".

He’s mentally framing the entire thing as a path to his own self-actualization

well he is doing the opposite of self- actualization because he seems to struggle with acceptance and is not realistic. He seemed to just be saying words with no true emotional connection to them.@@junglegrawlix

Not only did they destroy Cassie’s life, but her cousin, the 13 y/o who walked in on her body, ended up committing su$cide at age 17😢😢😢😢

A part of me died when my mom passed away I can’t imagine how much the family has been through since and feel.

@@Deeznuts-cz3csThat’s sad she spent her rest of her life only to die of cancer. 😢 I feel bad for the rest of her family as well.

He had me fooled at 1st as well. I know exactly what you are talking about. This is actually pretty shocking to me. In this interview he shows his true colors.

@@edgybarbie77 How about when he says that he was obsessed over Columbine in spite of Eric and Dylan 'not being people anymore. They're dead'. So, does that mean Cassie isn't a person anymore because she's dead? He clearly doesn't see her as a flesh and blood human being he viciously knifed to death, rather she's the catalyst for his being in prison. In short, he's remorseful that he's in prison, but had he and Torey gotten away with Cassie's murder and not been arrested, he would have gone back to his drums, parties, horror movies etc with no problem and written off the murder as a one-off thing that happened one time. I doubt he would have lost sleep over it. There was always a human side of me that felt Brian could be rehabilitated and I felt a touch of sorrow when he was crying over how much he loves his parents in LFL, but that's another thing. He doesn't say a damn thing about Cassie's mother, Cassie's father, her brother, her extended family at any point. It's like they're not real to him. We shouldn't be surprised. What kind of person gets off on the opening six minutes of Scream? Best work Drew Barrymore ever did imo, but harrowing as hell and not fun to watch. Brian Draper got off on a girl being scared like that. He can fucking die in there.

*psychologist Tbh

He would also "love" the opportunity to do the interview. Dude still wants to be famous. I'm so happy he's in jail because something tells me he would kill again if he got out. It's only been 17 years and he's acting like it was a different person who committed the crime when he still blames his upbringing and not who he was back then.

He keeps saying how it wasn't about being famous/making a mark but he accomplished his goal! He said briefly that he has remorse but doesn't specify what for. I'd like to think that his insights through therapy (he used a lot of buzz words) has changed his trajectory but I just don't know. I *do* think that if released, which doesn't look promising, he won't hurt anyone. It was kind of a 'folie a deux'.

​@@cdes1776I tend to agree w you, I think he won't commit other crimes As Long As He Does Not Fall Under the Influence of a Black Hearted person like Torey. We have to remember that although the act was not a typical childlike crime it they were clearly just "Kids" when this happened. I hope they might one day be able to be fully rehabbed and maybe able to breathe free air again. I do think people like this should have a chance of parole (but not for Aiden F.) but at least Brian should be able to have a hope for freedom in the future. Kids growing up in jail and missing out on freedom forever should only be reserved for the most heinous of crimes. These 2 nuts fed off each other almost daring each other to outdo the other with crazy ideas and immersion into depths of depravity, while Aiden F came up with everything on his own. I think there is a difference. Well I do feel people like this who commit murder for the thrill of it at you g ages and ALL chomos if released should be monitored for 20 or more years as to living situation, friendships, Internet activities, weaponry and even random surprise visits by parole officer to evaluate the same. RIP to Cassie, her life was cut short for worst possible reason - I hope both Bri & Torey are required to pay restitution for her death of 25% of their earnings for the rest of their life IF they ever get out. The mother who wrote the book should have to forgo some portion of profits to the victim's heirs.

Rest In Paradise Cassie 🕊🌷💞

@@beverlycharles6534 And what heinous of crimes is worse than murder?

I remember watching a interview about a child murderer, younger than this guy, and his interview really showed emotional growth, I believe it was Eric smith, this was a while ago, but he really took accountability and was genuinely sorry for what he did. This guy is the complete opposite

And what else is he supposed to talk about when they are asking him about his childhood and about his part in the crime? Thats kinda the reason why they contacted him, no?

hes the main character bro

Wow people like you have everything to complain about this is literally a interview with him where he is asked questions about himself so obviously he's going to talk about himself and not torey and still he mentioned torey literally there's only 3 people involved in this case and he talks about all 3 and why does he need to specifically apologize by saying I'm sorry cassie when obviously everything he's saying shows that he's apologetic but still those words don't connect in your brain and if you were actually familiar with this case and have seen all the interviews than you would habe heard him say that he's sorry to cassie back then so no need to mention it again when being sorry to cassie is in the past and everyone who is familiar with this case they already know he's sorry and at this point Brian doesn't feel like he deserves to put cassies name in his mouth your thinking is very flat Brain but you watch the Norris nutts so that's not suprising you're obviously not very mature yet

Bro what else is he gonna talk about lol they ASKED him questions about himself You guys look for any excuse to hate on these people, even though you don’t NEED an excuse to hate them

You're a true narcissist allie. What did you want him to talk about? You you you?

I thought Brian did? Didn't his Dad come into the police interview room? I found him on the spectrum.

@@ir9567do you have qualifications to make that diagnosis?

​@@glareicebutts1423 being autistic makes it pretty easy to spot someone on the spectrum.

@@glareicebutts1423 they operate on a different wavelength, have you seen or read Stephen King's Dreamcatcher? It's like that. Possible alien influence.

Watching the documentary on UKposts clearly qualifies you to make that diagnosis. Where did you get your degree? Just curious. The armchair psychiatrist University of UKposts documentaries?

I’m just finishing this video and my heart hurts for Cassie’s family even more. I really wish he had reached a place where he understood SHE was the victim and he wasn’t just bad… it WAS evil. 😞

Exactly. The fact that he act like his upbringing had anything to do with it. He was a narcissist then and he's still one now. The fact that 17 years later and he's still blaming his mom is enough for me to know that the life sentence is justice.

Wow upside down is mom

@@jourdansarpy4935 I don't think he was blaming his family. He was giving his account of his family life because he was asked. He did say he had a good upbringing so I don't see where you are getting that he is blaming his mother. 🤨

I think a lot of people in prison who killed or did other violent crimes, especially something so disconnected from the way normal humans act and think like this, have underlying mental conditions or sociopathy. Now, there are psychopaths and sociopaths who are nonviolent of course. So it's not like "oh he was a sociopath or a narcissist, he gets a free pass." No of course not, but I guess for me I always want to try to understand what drives people to take actions like this that maybe you and me can't understand, in terms of what motivates people to cause so much trauma and harm in the world without really being able to scope what they've done in their own mind. I am someone who believes even the most heinous killer is not that one act, that human life is more uncomfortably grey areas and complex, and people can spend the remainder of their life trying to do good with what life is in front of them (even behind bars). People can actually change, at least I believe that. But this guy clearly will never grasp what he's done, the weight of it and how it's affected people related to the victim, his own family, etc. I guess I feel like at the end of the day it's not up to us to judge him, but if you were to ask me I'd say there's some mental disconnect with this guy, could be mental disorder or narcissism or idk, that was present then and is present now. Whatever it is, he really hasn't come to understand his own crimes in any meaningful way that would allow him to evolve as a person.

@@Sweetyhidehe repeated over and over again that his parents could have done more. He's 100% blaming them.

Hi.

@@kostyatszyu Well yeah he was in school right before all this so you really said nothing new at all lol

Interesting

that's a good point. It did seem like he was almost mirroring a psychoanalyst, who may also have taken that distanced third-party view of what happened, calling her "the victim" and stuff

I think there is not a day that goes by that he is not thinking about Cassie. She is the reason his life is a tiny cell, and one big endless routine. Making himself the victim and isolating himself from what really happened probably helps keep him sane. The real question is would he kill again if released ?

I agree! I think he just doesn't want to admit the obvious which I understand no one wants to admit their thoughts that they know are wrong.

You hit my thoughts right on the head, ppl tend to try & reach & assume ppl are saying things for sympathy or for a different perspective on the situation, but like you said a decade of therapy & behavior specialists he’s probably sure these are the reasons he did this , explanations on how he could’ve done this. Even if he himself is trying to make himself believe it

Agreed

exactly what i noticed as well.. the EWU crew misunderstood that one; or should i say the woman 'expert' (i'll bet you anything it's a woman) who analyzed this phone call misunderstood that one, it's ridiculous actually.. plus, there's too much emotion in her analysis, she comes off as judgmental and pissed off at brian, when she should just keep it professional and stick to the objective facts.. i beg you EWU crew, don't hire this pathetic chick anymore and get a real professional

You all need tweed suits.

@@user-nz6bk7lf8uwhy?

@@user-nz6bk7lf8u wut mean?

Absolutely. He sounds like he's well adjusted and understands what he did wrong, but it also could be a well thought out sob story of a sociopath.

Therapy does that 😂😂 Once you've been saying these things on an individual or group level, over and over again, after 17 years, you have it down basically. This guy could probably assist in giving insight to how misguided kids get into these things, and what to look out for. He seems sincere but at the end ofnthe day, it's a dude in prison for murder.

It’s “interesting” as long as he’s locked up! He ever gets released things get “real”.

@danielcurtis1434 definitely agree. Even if he showed true remorse he should never be released

This is what I think anytime someone says “someone HAD to” or “that HAD to happen”. Because it definitely didn’t have to happen

@starrgravityasmr1339 100%. Lots of these killers make it sound like choices they made, were out of their control or "had to happen" or something along those lines

@@danielcurtis1434 settle down bud

I disagree. When something horrible and senseless like this happens people want to know why. He's answering questions that he is being asked by EWU. No set of circumstances could ever justify what he did but it's interesting to know what he thinks lead up to his horrendous actions. Whether or not he feels remorse, we will never know. He's had nearly two decades to process things so nothing he says is going to come across spontaneous or emotional; things one would associate with true remorse. Either way, he's where he belongs. Absolutely crazy the things people do.

He’s has no accountability!!! This interview wasn’t good for him at all.. he still seems immature

I agree. Not to mention him calling Cassie “my victim.” He is terrible.

Especially with it all being filmed and being able to watch those two sweaty nerds brag about it

i know this all too well in real life. i grew up in different countries . i have the exact same problem . people that hear switch between languages notice that i have a boyish voice in the one i am not using regularly. its uncomfortable ut if you are removed from the environment there is no way to progress with the rest of the society you left behind

he doesnt really sound like a teenager - he expresses himself very well

I agree. He hasn’t aged much from that teen boy.