As someone who lives in the UK, I'm really thankful for the GoodFellows podcast. We no longer have anything like this available on MSM.

GoodFellows Team: please assemble the reading lists for this past semester in all humanities courses at Stanford to see the full scope of the rot. Once the world sees what the students are reading the zeitgeist will make more sense.

Greetings.from Germany. Niall Ferguson's article in "The Free Press" is the best read I've had in a very long time. Courage and moral clarity is scarce as chicken teeth in academia. New found respect for Niall for articulating this. Thank you.

Excellent discussion. Perfectly articulating the mess the US eduction system and beyond is in. I do fear it is too late to recover without bloodshed. History would suggest this is the case.

Great episode! Thank you all for taking the time to share your knowledge with the world!

Thanks so much for the content this year. Merry Christmas to you all too.

Please keep this conversation going. Do deep doves into the curriculum being taught to help expose what's happening. Keep pushing back. Thank you.

I’ve seen many goodfellow episodes but this one was particularly beautiful. Each one of the hosts, especially Bari, said something that drew tears of hope from my eyes.

Excellent as always! Thank you.

Hoover podcasts are the best!!!!

Thank God for Hoover, the GoodFellows and Bari Weiss. You do such excellent work.

Superb. Thank you. 💚

Very thoughtful and deep concerns for our present times, thank you

My favorite podcast! I look forward to another round in 2024.

Well done and great points all!

Enjoy it I did. The human warmth and thoughtful intelligence shone throughout. As I'm living in Israel, counting the rockets overhear almost every day, and worried ... very worried about my grandsons fighting in Gaza, almost overwhelmed by the storied still coming out about Oct. 7, and upset about the antisemitism, it's more than nice to hear such a civilized conversation.

super-outstanding, as always !

Another wonderful and informative discussion. Thank you all for being voices of sanity throughout 2023. I wish you all a joyful and peaceful Christmas.

What a great way to wrap up 2023! I take this early opportunity to wish the Good Fellows, the viewers/listeners and the Hoover Institution community a blessed Christmas and a fruitful 2024!

Thanks to all of the "GoodFellows" for these excellent videos. Merry Christmas to all.

What gets me is the sly smiles these folks have when they make their slippery answers. They know they're dancing around semantics like this topic is a game. I also agree with H.R. McMaster that these presidents were afraid of being caught between public opinion and the wrath of the culture they helped create.

As a former public school history teacher I am appalled that I was working all these years surrounded by them and couldn't see the forest for the trees.

Great episode guys and a fantastic guest. Merry Christmas.

Not only elite universities! I have taught at a third tier California State University in Orange County. There are fliers all over campus encouraging men “of color “ to join groups that EXCLUDE by definition. My students have very little understanding of history or civics and yet they know for certain that they are underrepresented, marginalized and oppressed. When I told a DEI big shot that I was asked by my class who we fought in the Civil War, she laughed.

Best discussion yet. US is finished if this is not cured ASAP.

Incredibly impressive display of intellect by Neil. A moment of appreciation for the moderator Bill, so good.

Again, as usual a tremendous discussion-- so needed. Keep up the good work

We are suffering from a lack of leadership, at mid to senior level… I love listening to GoodFellows podcasts: here is where examples of leadership are found

Happy Christmas Goodfellows, and thank you for your insights over the past year.

It made me so happy to hear Neil say "math" instead of "maths"! One of us! One of us! One of us!

logic rhetoric and reason will defeat DEI. In your company, Good fellows, I feel the winds of change, the tide is turning and I feel hopeful, There are many other goodfellows coming out. Keep up the good work.

Happy Christmas to all,fantastic and informative as usual, see you all next year. 🎉👏👏🇦🇺

The fact that I can’t share this on FB is telling.

In the Christmas spirit perhaps we should rename the Good Fellows to the Three Wise Men. I thank you for your keen observations and wise counsel. I look forward to each Good Fellow episode. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Thankyou for very informative discussions.

I share Ferguson's skepticism that any of these universities are reformable.

non-whites and women can be as discriminatory as they like.. but eventually the hypocrisy becomes obvious.

Such s great session! Thank you to everyone!

No mention of Stanford, the “Harvard of the west” in this discussion of DEI. Is it too politically dangerous to speak about local problems in California?

A great year of content, thank you!

This show was a flame in the dark time. Thank you.

Thank you! 🇺🇸

I am a New Zealander living in Australia and love the Goodfellows podcast. The discussions are relevant to Australia and NZ. A right wing govt won in NZ as people sick of capture of prior govt and bureaucracy and academia ,education by the far left.already the nz media is going after the new govt as rascist so same playbook. The issues you discussed are all over the Anglo west and we dont have 1st ammendment .so the left has captured and manipulated the institutions very well so even the centre right govt is going to get push back. As DEI is quite entrenched so we need to be brave and start speaking up. Keep up the good work and dont underestimate the international reach of your podcast.and the general loves rugby union. Go the All Blacks.

Bravo.....at last real talk on a real problem.

Thank you gentlemen.

Really good analysis and discussion. Thank you.

Terrific interview

Three cheers for the GoodFellows; hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray. Thank you all so much men and Happy New year. 😊🖖Mick the Hick.

One thing that's overlooked is that the purveyors of thought control tend to be intellectually mediocre. As a result, they tend to rely on assistants to provide the intellectual candlepower necessary for the purveyors of thought control to carry out their responsibilities. This is definitely the case in various branches of government, and I'm sure it's also the case in academia and the entertainment industry. These assistants should ask themselves whether they benefit from the larger-scale effects of their contributions, and they should ask themselves whether they are happy letting less capable people take credit for their work. If the answer to either question is no, then they should find another field of endeavor.

Merry Christmas and Happy Hannukah! This terrific discussion reminded me of C. S. Lewis writing in his book, "The Abolition of Man"... "We make men without chests and expect of them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honour and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. We castrate and bid the geldings be fruitful." When cowardice has been rewarded, encouraged and taught for so many years, is it any wonder why people are silent in the face of evil? We should all look at ourselves in the mirror and say, today...today...I am not going to be a coward. No doubt Niall is right. Harvard and the other Ivy Leagues schools aren't going to change. They may shuffle people around, but they're sitting on so much money and the twisted ideology they espouse and teach is so entrenched, I think it will take an asteroid strike to change things.

38:43 I took enough humanities courses in my time at an Ivy league, to know that students aren't influenced by their professors when it comes to politics, not nearly so much as they are by their fellow students. The students are influenced now days by their choice of media. What do 1948, 1956, 1967, 1973, 1982, and 2006 have in common? Ask a college kid they haven't a clue about modern history of the middle east. My guess is that the danger of DEI is to make the average citizen less respectful of the whole academic process. What is the difference between stupid, ignorant vs evil, when the outcome is the same? Our institutions are all in various degrees of distress, the law, politics, the clergy, the press, education, and business. I see in partly the demographic boom and bust cycle. But I also place the blame on the fact that people of the greatest generation and shared experiences in the depression and the war, and they learned to cooperate, communicate, compromise in ways that their spoiled boomer children never did.

The question asked to the presidents was about their university’s code of conduct; this is *not* the same as the freedom of speech as in the amendments to the US constitutional. The code of conduct is much more restrictive than the law of the land.

In Canada where the universities are mostly government owned and funded, it would almost impossible to start a new one. Our universities are worse than in the US and as bad as the UK. If I had a young family again I would never put them in public school. I worry about my grandkids.

An excellent discussion that puts many pieces in perspective of why antisemitism is so horrifically on the rise in the West. For years, I've been saying anti Zionism is equal to antisemitism and now I can explain it better.

You thinkers & historians - thank you

Harvard has shown the inverted meaning of "diversity" by rejecting "Asian" students, who are much more diverse among themselves, and diverse from Europeans, than Black Americans and Latin Americans. Asia includes a hundred nations with a thousand languages, and the greatest variety of religions, from Buddhism to Hinduism, to Islam to Christianity, to Shinto to Confucianism. Racially it has many varieties, from Japan to Mongolia to Nepal to Thailand to Indonesia to Papua Nrw Guinea to Bangladesh to Pakistan. No person from one of those cultures is fungible with with a person from any other of those cultures. But Harvard has lied about reality and claimed Asian students are interchangeable and do not contribute to the racial or cultural diversity of a university. Any objective measurement of "diversity" would show Asian students are much higher carriers of "diversity" than American Blacks. But Harvard was not using any objective definition or measure of "diversity". The notion of having people in power manipulating the lives of students to match some notion of ideal racial composition, rather than letting students compete as individual citizens, is contrary to the fundamental principle of American society, that all men are created equal. Assigning value differentially by the biases of people in power is contrary to the equality required by the 14th Amendment. Harvard jas been devaluing Asians for decades. We should not be surprised they devalue Jews.

Thanks!

Bari Weiss is brilliant.

I agree with John! Most of us don't know much about history.

Spot on well done excellent research Akiva Peters Sydney Australia

Outstanding show, wish it could have lasted 3 hours

Love this conversation but Bari we need you back on Rogan so this can get to a wider audience

Great point about public schools. This was Facism 101.

Love this podcast especially when all 3 are here! This was great love Bari and yes create new institutions that is the American spirit to create and start again to ultimately renew the country! Looking forward to Kissinger part 2 like Thatcher History will place him in the Parthenon 🏛️ of greatness .

Thanks for another great video! Is there any way to get Palmer Luckey on a future program? His interaction with HR would give us all hope for how our defense industry can be revolutionized.

Excellent and eye-opening discussion on how Ivy League universities are destroying themselves.

1:06:55 Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year follows. Looking forward 2024. Best wishes for all

So many people in colleges seem to confuse McNamara policies with Kissinger's. Professor Ferguson can you discuss Kissinger's Nuclear policies?

I am not a lawyer or politician, but the answer to the question about genocide seems to be simple to me: calling for genocide of any peoples or any groups of peoples is a crime. Am I not sufficiently smart or educated to go anywhere near Ivy League school?

Illuminating and inspiring

John, I qualified your question (53'30") to Niall on Henry Kissinger IS a "fairy good" one too. lol. That was excellent one that I wanna do too. Great answer from Niall too.

Niall's comment on Henry Kissinger this time is pretty fair 🤟, totally agree.

When one has to extract an answer that is automatically obvious to any decent person, and any decent organization's policies, then something is very, very wrong!

I'm not exactly disagreeing, but this is a little too much dismissal of Hitchens's polemical screed, and glossing over parts of Vietnam.

I had a coworker flat out say to me "I've lost all sympathy for jews" and dismissing the congressional hearing clip as "well, the questioner was a jew...". This person seemed to be of the impression that "everyone" (except "those people") thinks the same way about Israel vs. Hamas/Palestine. I told this person, give it 6 months and a lot aggressive and actions "in defense" of Palestinians, but against random jews in Europe and the US, and there will be a notable political backlash. Especially if "woke" people openly keep promoting this final straw for a lot of people, that they don't just hate white people, cisgender people, old people, ideologically nonconforming people or rich people, but also jews.

What are the Austin principles? I was looking around and can’t seem to find a good source.

Congrats guy, you've finally reached 2016 levels of awareness.

Niall Ferguson on fire here

Merry Christmas to you all. See you again in 2024.

Great program! Great words! Too late, I am afraid…

ABolish DEI. It's antithetical to the American experience.

Sad that such educated people have such poor morale ethic and allow this to run rampant and instill this in more young people. Why would you go there for education unless you are a thug and bully?

Where can I find that 'walkbaout on campus' video?

Thank you all for uncovering and analyzing the root causes of the rot that was on display in the Congress hearing

40:45 I understand that deep in my soul. I will respond with yet another Lord of the Rings quote, this time from Eowyn, shield-maiden or Rohan: "Courage, Merry. Courage for our friends." It's also anyways remembering the timeless words of one Franklin Delano Roosevelt: "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself."

how are the oxbridge colleges dealing w/ this?

I rarely comment about the thoughts your discussion here brought to my mind, however, I was prompted to because there are so many issues, I could not remain silent regarding my views. Those generally described as being on the left of the idea continuum can suffer from the flaws of the right: The reluctance and often the inability to engage in self-reflection, and to learn from missteps. That said, several things came to mind from this discussion. Academia is not liberal. Ask 1960's free speech enthusiasts at Berkeley, for example. They and many college students throughout the country at that time were constantly battling for what we call today, "diversity, equality and inclusion." The massacre of students at Kent State is another example, lest we forget how students were repressed and retaliated against when they sought to give voice to opinions and ideas not held by those in power represented by school administrators and the boards of trustees. This brings me to my main point: Academia, especially the top tier at Ivy-league institutions are carrying forth the ideals and beliefs of this era just as their predecessors did in the 1960's! If you are looking for leadership from elite schools, you are going to be disappointed. That is not their role; it never has been.Their role is to aculturate new generations of people to pass the batton to who will not rock the boat, who will not show them up for their shortcomings (fakes and phonies too often). Educators convey the culture -- toxic facets and the healthy bits, too. They follow where they believe the majority of society is or is headed toward at any given time. That is their essential "leadership." The problem these elite administrators faced in this hearing was the administrators had had insufficient time to read the tea leaves about the party line their trustees and donors would issue for them to repeat publically regarding antisemitic rhetoric and conduct. Campuses are cauldrons of messy conflicts that school officials try to prevent from erupting into violence. BTW: Campuses can only reflect what is going on throughout our society. They actually needed guidance from public relations professionals because they were headed into a trap. Stefanik has been a vocal proponent of MAGA in the House, and would seek to simultaneously endear herself further to them, and assure her New York district that she is pro-Israel. So, from that perspective, this was a collosal set-up that each of the elite administrators fell into here at the hearing. It was Stefanik who insisted the administrators cow-tow to the politics of the day, as she simultaneously sent a subliminal message to SCOTUS, and to Trump that she could create a diversion to cover over the barrage of criticisms their conduct has recently elicited toward them. Finally, scapegoating elite institutions because as a nation we have been unwilling to grapple with the glaring social and economic problems of our era is both dishonest and hypocritical, and it is not going to solve our country's issues. Underneath this is the typical, time honored American tradition to do nothing or the bare minimum for those whose rights and freedoms are abridged or are in jeopardy -- women and children, minorities, the poor, housing, education, infrastructure -- all our national problems -- the ones essentially ignored for the most part since the 1960's or before. Problems ignored because as a nation we tend to view freedoms and rights as if they were pie -- the greater the demand often from those deeply denied and in need of those freedoms, the less availability to all. And, that is just not real! Rights and freedoms are not pie; there is enough for us all! When we seek, as I fervently hope we will, to solve this problem exposed during the Hearing, and the shift toward more and more non-democracy in our institutions, interactions with other, and within our government, I pray that the country will resolve the idea that there is a problem with diversity, equity and inclusion in and of themselves. Rather, I hope as a nation we will seek to actually embody them as core values, and not merely high minded sound bites

They key is who controls hiring and tenure decisions for faculty.

I loved this conversation 🎉Thanks 🎉Baruch HaShem ✡️🇮🇱☮️💪🙏🙌👏🏼💐🤷‍♀️🇬🇧

I would be very interested in hearing a conversation about navigating an intellectually engaged conservatism amidst the deplorable trends in American conservatism rooted in the sense of grievance and thinly veiled racism. It seems to me a more dangerous political totalitarianism is currently on the rise against the academic institutions but it is grossly offensive and bereft of intellectual integrity.

As to the moderator’s observation to Bari that “there is a cost” to standing up to today’s insanity, the responses should be that “there is no cost too great to bear” for what is right, and in standing against evil; and “ I refuse to live in a society which accepts the DEI ideology”.

Ayn Rand (The New Left, 1970), and Leonard Peikoff (Ominous Parallels, 1982) were two people, among others, whose vision was almost prophetic in their ability to not only see way beyond the horizon line of their times but, indeed, spoke (and wrote) up. Their public voice was also their inner voice. True patriots and courageous as hell.

nuff said

Regarding Ivy League Anti Semitism a proverb comes to mind

Neil ought to look at a comparison of the treatment of Kissinger with the demonisation of Castlreagh by Byron, Shelly et al.....

“I’ve had the priviledge of meeding the Gween before, bud it’s always a special oggasion” Clive James reporting on Kissinger’s speech 🤣

20:02 Hannah Arendt

When your institution takes millions from Muslim states, many American values get upended. Commonsense says that calling for genocide is incitement to violence. We need to insist that university and all government jobs not be communists, advocates of any ethnic genocide and supporters of violent revolution or rioting. Too many academics and administrators are avowed communists or Islamists. Universities have the job of training young adults to be leaders. We must have people who uphold the Constitution and do not favor violence. Universities with communists and others who wish to overthrow the Constitution shouldn't receive federal funding. Bringing in wealthy Arab students leads to harassment of Jewish students and should be severely limited. It's an unwise national policy to admit people who will harass or attack specific ethnic or religious groups. The State Department should consider violent struggles and terrorism around the globe and simply not admit people likely to endanger existing citizens from vulnerable ethnic and religious groups, except for a few outstanding experts. No university can be value free. Promoting peaceful, law abiding citizenship with hard work and stable marriages and families are basic values necessary for a stable Republic.There should be free speech and debate beyond these practical standards. The standards for universities should be narrower than that of regular society. Universities need to discourage substance abuse and promiscuous sex because these lead to poor academic and life outcomes. Young adults are not yet mature. They need a higher standard of behavior than mere legality and need to know their responsibilities instead of concentrating on victimhood.

My parents were academics so I grew up around campuses and professors. I spent the better part of 12 years acquiring several academic degrees up to and including a PhD. Possibly half of the professors I studied under during that time were Jews, most with doctorates from the Ivy League or other 'elite' schools. So my personal experience backs up the statistics that tell us academia is one sphere of American life in which Jews have long been overrepresented (certainly compared to the military, another institution in which I spent a number of years). What's more, with the exception of one or two 'neocon' types and a tiny handful of economic conservatives, these Jewish professors were - to a man and, especially, woman - leftist in their politics, often radically so. No subset of 'whites' has been more prominently at the forefront of the kind of campus politics we now call 'woke,' particularly in regard to multiculturalism, affirmative action, racial 'equity,' 'civil rights' issues, anti-'colonialism,' and the like. That the demons summoned by so many Jewish academics over the past half-century are now backfiring on them (or perhaps on their children and grandchildren) will strike many people as a case of 'the lady doth protest too much.'

Niall Ferguson piece, Who would have been? 333:20 It is starting to look like for some people, flee before it gets worse? It seems to be the plan of many from CA who can afford to do so. How many other major city dwellers now have a similar plan? They won't stay and fight but just flee and rest on their laurels/money. Reminds me of this: Luke 12:16-21.