The Left’s Hypocritical View of Sex and Consent | Jordan Peterson & Dave Rubin |

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In light of the current Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard defamation trial, it is important to remember Dave Rubin's views on the #metoo movement, especially arguing that the phrase ‘believe all women’ is counterproductive and legally flawed. Jordan Peterson enters the conversation, drawing attention to the left's hypocrisy, primarily how their severe view on consent interacts with their liberal view of sexual relationships.
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@grcarie
@grcarie Рік тому
It shouldn't be "believe all women" it should be "consider and/or investigate all claims". Maybe then, men could also feel safe claiming when the abuse happens to them, too. A crime which is greatly underreported.
@goawqebt6931
@goawqebt6931 Рік тому
reasonable
@kashiaroundtheworld
@kashiaroundtheworld Рік тому
Johnny vs Amber has shed some light on this. What she did to Johnny and for Women's Safety is horrendous.
@grcarie
@grcarie Рік тому
@@kashiaroundtheworld really it comes down to: do we judge the circumstances and the individual? Or do we judge the group? I generally believe in giving victims the benefit of the doubt, but I also believe in the "trust but verify" principle. If the idea requires me to judge another person, or call for violence, I prefer to err on the side of caution. I reserve judgement. I wait for facts. I consider the case's relevance to me, and whether I really need to know. "Innocent until proven guilty" should go both ways. The claimant is Innocent of fraud until proven otherwise, and the same should be said of the defendant whose guilt must be proven in court.
@nolistrombowli8288
@nolistrombowli8288 Рік тому
That's what it means tho, it doesn't literally mean "believe" every allegation uncritically or assume someone is guilty before he has been proven to be!! It means take all women's claims seriously and don't ridicule them or call them liars!!
@grcarie
@grcarie Рік тому
@@nolistrombowli8288 that may have been the initial intent, but that is not how it turned out. I never had a problem initially with IDEA of #MeToo. But as soon as people's lives were being destroyed over unverified or false stories, it stopped being about the truth. And that is where the problem lies. It became a social and political tool used for bullying people or getting attention on one's self. This became true for so many hashtags. The ideas started out with good intentions, but the very nature of social media made them subject to quick abuse. It is true that many women are not believed. That needed to be addressed. But it is unjust to accept every accusation as truth, especially where there is something to be gained.
@MrMcDeth
@MrMcDeth Рік тому
The fact that Dr. Peterson is a controversial figure baffles me.
@isaacyutzy9732
@isaacyutzy9732 Рік тому
It says more about the people who call him controversial, than it says about him.
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 Рік тому
He’s a modern day prophet. Fools despise wisdom and Peterson is walking around with a mirror showing the fools what they look like and they despise him for it. He’s just trying to show us how we can stop looking so foolish and do something instead to feel a true sense of accomplishment. Fools just wanna party and be oblivious to the unpleasantness of reality
@majuli8420
@majuli8420 Рік тому
Well, it's just enraging to actual intellectuals that this man is taken seriously.
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 Рік тому
@@majuli8420 what is an actual intellectual?
@Mark-hc8ek
@Mark-hc8ek Рік тому
Mr. Potato Head is controversial to the Left.
@PeteNicholsonAnimation
@PeteNicholsonAnimation Рік тому
Signing a consent note sounds an awful lot like marriage
@theboombody
@theboombody Рік тому
Agreed. I think it just emphasizes why marriage is a natural thing and the hook-up culture is not.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 Рік тому
The consent note from the mans point of view: "i dont wanna hear a lot of whining...so ill shutup!
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Рік тому
That is my thought
@sierrac9341
@sierrac9341 Рік тому
Except, remember you need to re-sign every night..
@hunchanchoc8418
@hunchanchoc8418 Рік тому
And a year in a marriage later it'll be a pointless piece of paper anyway..
@hendrikmoons8218
@hendrikmoons8218 Рік тому
NEVER apologize for a mistake that ain't yours. NEVER accept group punishment.
@leereyno
@leereyno Рік тому
When attacked by one of these monsters, always hit them back with everything you've got.
@coulombs465
@coulombs465 3 місяці тому
Peterson seems happy to endorse group punishment, when it's toward his political opponents, or for the benefit of fascist states.
@hendrikmoons8218
@hendrikmoons8218 3 місяці тому
​@@coulombs465 Peterson seems happy to endorse group punishment, when it's toward his political opponents, or for the benefit of fascist states. The point you are trying to make looses all validity by trying to link professor Dr Jordan Peterson with fascism. Go back to your neoliberal/pro communism cave. The man oposes all forms of extremist regimes which clearly include all forms of Marxisme, communism and socialism. He is also not a fan of group punishment. But like in all JUST legal systems, if you are part of a group and the group commits an atrocity of a crime, you all serve the time. That has nothing to do with group punishment, but more in line with: 'if you cross the red ligth and I do too, we should have the same punishment.'
@alexanderlyon
@alexanderlyon Рік тому
It looks like getting back out on tour has brought that quick, firey, and punctuated side of Peterson. He was obviously in a period of healing and thoughtful reflection there for a while, which was necessary. It's great to see him hitting his stride again like this. It seems like being on the road would be exhausting, but he's making it work in his favor.
@Helga7850
@Helga7850 Рік тому
I would suggest this lady to become a lesbian. So she will not be worrying about "men's behavioral expectations". On the contrary I LOVE men. I do not have expectations because most men are good. And I enjoy their company.
@harryfaber
@harryfaber Рік тому
@@Helga7850 I am rather hoping that is a typo. '...most men ate good...'? Are good?
@Helga7850
@Helga7850 Рік тому
@@harryfaber yes. are good
@chillwinston8961
@chillwinston8961 Рік тому
This video is from 3 years ago
@marylamb7707
@marylamb7707 Рік тому
@@Helga7850 I agree. All the men in my life are fantastic.
@davidpowderly9117
@davidpowderly9117 Рік тому
"Don't do anything physically with anyone that you wouldn't talk to them about." That right there should be a rule for life.
@momomtony
@momomtony Рік тому
"believe all women" -> what is a woman? -> "a person who identify as woman" -> then, who should i believe? -> "women..." conclusion, dont believe nobody.
@mkocinema2012
@mkocinema2012 Рік тому
It should be- "Believe all women when they say they have feelings to express, and listen!" That's all.
@Snarge22
@Snarge22 Рік тому
"Hay baby, let's exchange consent notes."
@devadii24
@devadii24 2 місяці тому
😂😂😂
@peterweston1356
@peterweston1356 Рік тому
I have wondered whether Dr. Peterson would ever really become as consequential in the world as he was before the terrible addiction/health issues consumed him. I think today with this answer, I have my own answer. Whether you like or not, there is without doubt a true fire in his guts and a clarity and confidence in his wide ranging response I’ve not seen this decade. Truly, welcome back!
@ruthanne6729
@ruthanne6729 Рік тому
I’m so sorry to say this, but this video is pre Dr. Peterson’s dependency (not addiction) and severe illness. He’s back and he is better than ever, but this is definitely pre illness Dr. Peterson. I’m seeing an even greater although more solemn passion in his latest work.
@peterweston1356
@peterweston1356 Рік тому
@@ruthanne6729 Ruth, ah, thanks for spotting this, I only went by the date of upload and could see no evidence in the actual material giving any clue of the actual video date. A good faith mistake on my part. My apologies to anyone liking my comment. Thanks again. As for his current state of mind. I do see his always sharp mind and at the same time a shift in how he comes across imho. I’m just pleased he recovered. Here’s to his continued health.
@ruthanne6729
@ruthanne6729 Рік тому
@@peterweston1356 no worries whatsoever! For my part, I’m just so thankful that we have him. I get the shivers when I think how close we came to losing him. I know he’s changed, but we need to give him time to heal. The important thing is that he’s back and healthy.
@peterweston1356
@peterweston1356 Рік тому
@@ruthanne6729 🙂
@anirprasadd
@anirprasadd Рік тому
Wait, what happened to him?? Does he suffer from addiction??
@michaelb2132
@michaelb2132 Рік тому
How anyone can disagree with this is beyond me. Common sense is no longer common, if it ever was.
@nicolab2075
@nicolab2075 Рік тому
Common sense has always been 'people who believe what I believe'.
@michaelb2132
@michaelb2132 Рік тому
@@nicolab2075 when I say common sense, I'm referring to a sense of logic and moral integrity.
@nicolab2075
@nicolab2075 Рік тому
@@michaelb2132 I think people use it however they want. But they still mean 'people who think like me', in my view.
@JS-pw8nr
@JS-pw8nr Рік тому
"Common sense" doesn't come from yourself. It's a gift of truth and clarity born of service to the Lord God, even if you don't admit that God is what is behind the "sense".
@anisdada1646
@anisdada1646 Рік тому
@@nicolab2075 Yes in a way you're right. But more like "I believe because my experience (carrot and stick) in society showed me that this is the truth".
@tinygardentomato
@tinygardentomato Рік тому
At this point, being banned from Twitter is a badge of courage and heroism.
@SnerMerNer
@SnerMerNer Рік тому
Jordan Peterson is a role model to us all. His advice and knowledge are precious to those with the ears to listen. I know he’s been beaten down by morons and institutions with an agenda, but I hope that he knows or comes to understand just how enormous of a positive influence he is on so many people’s lives.
@youtubeviewer4472
@youtubeviewer4472 Рік тому
On the face, I agree with everything he said. But if his values TRULY worked, his daughter should not have dumped her good honorable husband to sleep around with gym bros and biker thugs.
@bricedaly5123
@bricedaly5123 Рік тому
@@youtubeviewer4472 his daughter is her own person and makes her own choices. That doesn't invalidate his values, it simply shows why they are important.
@youtubeviewer4472
@youtubeviewer4472 Рік тому
@@bricedaly5123 I agree that his values are important, but they don't do anyone any good if no one implements them, and they won't do society at large much good if only men implement them.
@trevorolsen984
@trevorolsen984 Рік тому
I highly disagree he is a role model and think he shouldn't be. He often talks way outside of his field of expertise but acts like he's an expert in them, like biology, marine neuroscience, climate science, virology, etc. He was a good clinical psychologist, but I would never go to him now for therapy.
@simonford9725
@simonford9725 Рік тому
Absolutely! To be cancelled by the Woke institutions is a badge of honour! The totallitarian far left are the enemies of civilisation! They have no valid arguments, nothing to back up their very one sided rhetoric, just a lot of hot air! Anyone with a modicum of common sense will see that the predictions of George Orwell's 1984 are alive in our institutions, hospitals, police, Library's, universities, law courts and anywhere else you care to look. This nonsence will bring the very fabric of our society to it's knee's. Thank goodness that there appears to be a fight back against the far left! It can't come sooner!
@monopolizeme
@monopolizeme Рік тому
This is honestly one of the most brilliant talks I’ve heard. No one discusses this, no one brings this up to even ponder; thank you so much.
@jagjax2382
@jagjax2382 Рік тому
As Peterson pointed out, most people wanted the freedom but not the consequences. They're simply afraid of conversations about those consequences.
@rocky3850
@rocky3850 Рік тому
@@jagjax2382 what consequences
@jagjax2382
@jagjax2382 Рік тому
@@rocky3850 Is this a genuine curiosity or an attempt to make a scene because my comment triggered you?
@rocky3850
@rocky3850 Рік тому
@@jagjax2382 no this is a genuine question, because i want freedom and i also know the consequences
@jozefwoo8079
@jozefwoo8079 Рік тому
@@jagjax2382 I want to know as well
@SensemakingNL
@SensemakingNL Рік тому
Enlightening reaction from Jordan where he really opens the real conversation about sexuality and consent. A thread that should be picked up in our victim-addicted culture… lets get this straight
@Mashamazzi
@Mashamazzi Рік тому
If you become a victim what do you avoid, first and foremost? Accountability
@jozefwoo8079
@jozefwoo8079 Рік тому
So shall we move to a victim-blaming culture?
@BillyViBritannia
@BillyViBritannia Рік тому
Nope, not straight, that's the worst kind nowadays
@Mashamazzi
@Mashamazzi Рік тому
@@jozefwoo8079 maybe, if you constantly find yourself as a victim maybe it’s your choices that have brought you there?
@patriciarouse2801
@patriciarouse2801 Рік тому
@@Mashamazzi or if you r use of punctuation identified you as a neglect and abuse practitioner whose problem is that...
@marcelstanford430
@marcelstanford430 Рік тому
Being subjected to "sins of the Father" is bad enough but now it's "sins of the ancestor" which of course is even more ridiculous. I'm not apologizing for something of which I had no part.
@yeetlad926
@yeetlad926 Рік тому
But being truthful there is a discussion to be had there. Just because you may not have been part of the crime doesnt mean you a) dont benefit from it b) shouldnt work towards mending the effects of that crime. Example the canadian first nation their people were slaughtered and brutally assimilated into canadian culture i mean looks up the residential school and inuit sled dog slaughters. Now that not to say you should feel guilty and apologize. But remorseful and obligated to help that group recover what lost they may have lost at the hands of your ancestors. In the first nations case that soveigreignty upon their lands.
@marcelstanford430
@marcelstanford430 Рік тому
@@yeetlad926 All good points. However, the indigenous themselves slaughtered each other...they were tribal. There are bands in the north because they were driven out of the south. The Mohawks were the most successful and occupy the best land.
@staizer
@staizer Рік тому
@@yeetlad926 who is ultimately responsible? In the current day, point to a group of people who has not been subjugated or oppressed by some other group in their past. None of what has been done, or should be done, should be related to what someone else did in the past. If there are people suffering, we should help them. The reason for it is irrelevant. Does it matter whether their field was burned by a raiding army or burned by a lightning strike? We should help either way. If I have caused harm, then I should suffer the consequences, if my ancestors caused harm, what consequences should I suffer and why?
@yeetlad926
@yeetlad926 Рік тому
@@staizer Well for the "why" id say its yours the bear the sins of your ancestors or for me mine. Because we are the closest thing to a representation of our ancestors. And as for the consequences, i wouldnt call them such. Consequences to me sound like you answering for the crimes which you shoundnt they are not your or mine. What however is upon us is the obligation to mend those old wounds and to help.
@staizer
@staizer Рік тому
@@yeetlad926 what old wounds were you born with?
@siochongd5139
@siochongd5139 Рік тому
The best signed mutual consent for a long term relationship is probably a marriage certificate
@ashleybeazley
@ashleybeazley Рік тому
👏🏼
@JS-pw8nr
@JS-pw8nr Рік тому
Well said. Bravo. Extremely well said.
@uberboiz
@uberboiz Рік тому
Well, just because you are happily married today, it doesn't mean you will be happily married in the long run.
@ashleybeazley
@ashleybeazley Рік тому
@@uberboiz if you actually take care in choosing a partner that is right for you, you’ve got a really good chance.
@uberboiz
@uberboiz Рік тому
@@ashleybeazley I'm sure a lot of people who decide to get married have the same ideas as yours i.e. that their partner is 'right for them' (at that point of time at least), and therefore there is a really good chance their marriage will last. Otherwise, why would they want to get married in the first place? And yet, divorce is not becoming less common in recent history.
@MultiSenhor
@MultiSenhor Рік тому
The real solution is not making up for people's weaknesses, but strenghtening people up. Teach them to reason, understand their emotions, and set limits
@preopticfear
@preopticfear Рік тому
I love the way Dr. Peterson articulates his word!!
@christophermiller8589
@christophermiller8589 Рік тому
This man has changed so many lives. It brings real peace to see him killing it like this, like he hasn’t skipped a beat after everything that’s happened. What a beast. ❤️🔥
@wolfpat
@wolfpat Рік тому
This is another subject about which one political side is trying to have a dialogue, and the other side only wants a monologue.
@ryleighloughty3307
@ryleighloughty3307 Рік тому
"Believe all women" became "All women tell the truth". No wonder the 'movement' died.
@mkocinema2012
@mkocinema2012 Рік тому
It should be- "Believe all women when they say they have feelings to express, and listen!" That's all.
@ryleighloughty3307
@ryleighloughty3307 Рік тому
@@mkocinema2012 What does that even mean?
@mkocinema2012
@mkocinema2012 Рік тому
@@ryleighloughty3307 It's means- Whether a woman is telling the truth or lying, she might have pain & damage inside her. Even if it's only for psychological-analytical purposes- every women should be listened to.
@ryleighloughty3307
@ryleighloughty3307 Рік тому
@@mkocinema2012 Even when she is lying?
@thenagualzeze4979
@thenagualzeze4979 2 місяці тому
Women lie
@chadwiley6917
@chadwiley6917 Рік тому
Politic rhetoric has caused a lot of the problems. It twists good values into bad and evil thoughts and behaviors.
@petervanhoorn6199
@petervanhoorn6199 Рік тому
Pfff, what a legend. He hits the nail right on the freaking head every single time. He is a prime example of someone actually doing his homework and knowing what he is talking about. He has been one of my examples for the past years. Thank 'God' for this fellah!
@Sweethands4
@Sweethands4 5 місяців тому
A lot of people know what they're talking about, it's JP's public speaking ability and especially his ability to elucidate the concept he's trying to present with words that is so brilliant. When you watch his interviews in front of large audiences you can actually see him stop & "Think before he speaks" to choose how to word his answers. Just watching JP & other mature (not Elon) experienced people of these times debate truth/morality/anything is a phenomenal education.
@mylilpc
@mylilpc Рік тому
This was very enlightening. I am taking that “talk about it” recommendation into my future dating situations.
@JS-pw8nr
@JS-pw8nr Рік тому
Don't. The presumption should be that the woman is an entitled, infant, monster and that she will lie if it suits her to do so and you are her victim. Far too often, a woman will emotionally "like" the idea of something but, when she hasn't done the hard work it takes to really embody that idea and you come expecring her to honestly live by that idea, she won't blame herself for her failure at the skill required, she will blame you for "making her feel bad". When, in truth, she "feels bad" because she hasn't really gone any further than, "I really like that idea". What Dave posits, that we are "born innocent" is sheer radicle-left insanity wrapped in fake conservitism. Ask yourself this question, why do we see the advocates on the left screaming, crying, and throwing temper-tantrums like immature children? Because they are, Sir. We are all born selfish, infantile, and guilty as sin. If we are very blessed, we will be taught, not sparing the rod and by a religious Jewish or Christian mother and father who tell THE truth of the Lord God, period. If we are not, we end up having to seek out THE truth on our own and fighting through our own learned insanity to embody real virtue and truth. Regretably, Dave's only god is... Dave. Seek the Lord, Sir and He will reveal the truth of Himself, in part, and humanity, in totality, to you. Do this first and see the cross you must carry clearly. Then, see women clearly.
@MDAdams72668
@MDAdams72668 Рік тому
The worst CURSE in this world is to be both intelligent and an EMPATH you see the problems and simply cannot without hurting feelings convince someone to solve them Which in turn causes you pain
@spaRKLES88604
@spaRKLES88604 Рік тому
The thing he said about alcohol and drugs is pretty accurate. Imagine how greatly these problems would be reduced if alcohol and drugs was not a factor. Its not secret that drugs ands alcohol, impair your judgment.
@jackemerson615
@jackemerson615 Рік тому
Reminds me of the episode of South Park where PC Principal goes around his frat collecting consent forms from all the men.
@Tuberiascaesar
@Tuberiascaesar Рік тому
As a little boy growing up I felt concerned about this. It may not have been the intention, but it felt like the world was always trying to make me feel ashamed of myself because I was born white, male, cis gendered, etc.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 Рік тому
"As a little boy growing up" Lolwut? I suspect your definition of little boy differs to mine.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Рік тому
@@lieshtmeiser5542 while being a little boy one is in the process of growing up. Is that a difficult concept?
@gregclarkreasons
@gregclarkreasons Рік тому
Sadly, it is.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 Рік тому
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I wasnt concerned one little bit with anything hugely important when I was "little". After 25 years of age, or so, i was more concerned with bigger issues.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Рік тому
@@lieshtmeiser5542 that's your experience. Mine as well, but that doesn't negate the fact that some children contemplate things beyond the scope of their current experience. I've known children that are deep thinkers.
@Jianju69
@Jianju69 Рік тому
Wish I had had such a person in my life growing up.
@nunomoure197
@nunomoure197 Рік тому
I think it should be something like this "investigate all claims without bias, and let the investigation lead to the truth, whatever it may be".
@jamiej5229
@jamiej5229 Рік тому
oh thanks, good that we have you. not that wise men have thought about it for thousands of years and already established how to determine truth, it really helped to hear your 2 cents on this topic.
@williamreymond2669
@williamreymond2669 Рік тому
6:34] Every once in a while it is informative to go back, rewind, and rewatch the audience reaction.
@justinm3486
@justinm3486 Рік тому
This used to be common sense 20 years ago lol
@JakeSweeper
@JakeSweeper Рік тому
Common Sense is only common when it's commonly taught. That doesn't seem to be the case in a lot of places.
@_scabs6669
@_scabs6669 Рік тому
You go with the flow. Nonverbal communication is 99% of it and more important
@KalonOrdona2
@KalonOrdona2 Рік тому
A consent form? So, like a marriage contract? :p
@Chloeyboey217
@Chloeyboey217 Рік тому
Thank you dave rubin and jordan petersen for doing these lectures and Q&As! I am so thankful to have this information freely given to me on the internet!
@justfun985
@justfun985 Рік тому
WOW this is right on. This is talking about the number 1 issue facing us today. With contraception now a reality, what are the new rules? You can't just throw away the old rules and expect people to understand the new rules when they are none yet.
@andrewpowers3697
@andrewpowers3697 Рік тому
"we need to start judging people individually and not collectively" but then that is immediately followed by "but they..." no one sees the irony in that?
@divisadero8859
@divisadero8859 Рік тому
There is a difference between you are guilty because you are men and you believe these ideas as you are part of that ideology.
@ByronWWW
@ByronWWW Рік тому
Left and right is such a broad catch all grouping it's the same thing - socially conservative while believing in some "socialist" economics isn't even seen as a possibility. Majority of people would meet somewhere in the middle, but your political systems and click bait presenters like Peterson need things to be polar opposites to drive engagement - driving a wedge in society for personal or political gain is terrible. Always them Vs us, in group Vs out group.
@TidalWaveDan
@TidalWaveDan Рік тому
I recently heard a female say she couldn’t believe she’d let her Ex Boyfriend do some of the things to her she let him do. She said she the idea that someone felt like he was entitled to her body was upsetting. She said it was S(exual)A(ssault). So, a committed relationship has nothing to do with the persistent state of victimhood we’ve falling into. It’s just becoming a game to some people and every single interaction comes with the risk of being your reputation’s demise. How do we solve that?
@martybarbeau
@martybarbeau Рік тому
For every action there is an opposite reaction or there is a CONSEQUENCE!!!
@simonr-vp4if
@simonr-vp4if Рік тому
wut
@cpat7065
@cpat7065 Рік тому
What an incredible segment. Extremely well thought out.
@niguel4438
@niguel4438 Рік тому
Thanks as always John and Jordon.
@marksandsmith6778
@marksandsmith6778 Рік тому
DR Wrong. A boss can sexually intimidate without any of the crimes you mentioned. M
@lindagriffiths8926
@lindagriffiths8926 Рік тому
Ctd: Reintroducing 'respect' and self! (True-self) acceptance would be the way to reach the utopic civilization you think! is optimum and in human's best interest. As you regularly say Jordan 'Good luck with that one' Bless you for using your energy to keep trying 🙏
@davidcarpenter6960
@davidcarpenter6960 Рік тому
After a long life I've yet to listen to anyone who combines knowledge, intelligence (the ability to reason), articulacy and clarity better than Professor Peterson..
@chrisbailey2125
@chrisbailey2125 Рік тому
Thomas sowell is another, or christopher hitchens. Worth a look at
@davidcarpenter6960
@davidcarpenter6960 Рік тому
Christopher Hitchens is always worth listening to. I'm not so familiar with Thomas Sowell but will look him up. Reason and knowledge currently are often smothered by the power of the mob. Lets hope its only temporary because history tells us what happens if it takes over
@wstavis3135
@wstavis3135 Рік тому
Douglas Murphy, Walter Williams, Fredrick Hayek, Henry Hazlitt, Booker T Washington, Fredrick Douglas, Alexander Solzhenitsyn While some are only available in written form, the world is full of intelligent, insightful, articulate individuals. You merely need to search them out.
@davidcarpenter6960
@davidcarpenter6960 Рік тому
@@wstavis3135 The world certainly is and I've met a few over a long life. The problem these days is that there is an increasing number of people determined to negate their efforts through the imposition of group-think and by preventing their views being heard. In my life I would never have imagined such an assault on free speech as is evident today.
@w.donald9066
@w.donald9066 Рік тому
Jordan Peterson, Stephen Fry . Sam Harris and Hitchens are or sadly were incredibly knowledgeable speakers. But Frys command of the English language without trying to sound smart is second to none. Well worth a look.
@mdarrenu
@mdarrenu Рік тому
His point on alcohol is dead-on. One reason why i never had any of these problems.
@andystephon871
@andystephon871 Рік тому
When he speaks, it's complete silence. All eyes on him. Paying such keen attention.
@scasey1960
@scasey1960 Рік тому
Amber Heard is not uncommon
@mariahsnow6986
@mariahsnow6986 Рік тому
Happy to see those kids are listening.
@lizkt
@lizkt Рік тому
I agree with all of this. But I'm also so discouraged because how on earth can this really be changed?
@jrd33
@jrd33 Рік тому
Making changes isn't difficult, changing things for the better is difficult.
@simonwestaway8732
@simonwestaway8732 Рік тому
"Get rid of alchohol..." 100% ABSOLUTELY agree! Would solve A LOT of issues.
@georgewagner7787
@georgewagner7787 Рік тому
They tried that, it was called prohibition. Like illegal guns, the criminals sold it anyway. It would be nice but won't happen again. My college dorm wasn't coed. That stopped rapes.
@rogerb181
@rogerb181 Рік тому
The movie Cherry 2000 starts with a scene where a man and a woman meet in a bar, and work out a contract with an attorney on that night's expectations.
@unklekal7571
@unklekal7571 Рік тому
I think it was the Carol Burnett Show, did a comedy skit in the seventies about two lawyers negotiating a first date, in legalese, on behalf of their two clients. They worked out all the issues that young people are struggling with today.
@AmberyTear
@AmberyTear Рік тому
All of my friends are leftists or liberals and they all were against Amber. Every claim of abuse should be considered in all seriousness but that doesn't mean it's wise to accept each one automatically.
@rhodymark4305
@rhodymark4305 Рік тому
About 5:00 - Add drugs as well. The combination of alcohol and (more potent than ever) drug consumption HAS to be affecting judgment in a great deal of cases.
@AsifKhan-ju4ld
@AsifKhan-ju4ld Рік тому
"You did it to yourself" 🤣
@stephme2686
@stephme2686 Рік тому
When I was 7 technically I consented because I didn’t know what I was doing, he was my teacher so my school just changed my class and never fired him. My mom felt like they should’ve had him arrested but I said to her that I didn’t even know what was going on so I don’t feel bothered and so we left it alone. Even though I was 7 years old and he was 30 something years old it still was consensual
@georgewagner7787
@georgewagner7787 Рік тому
No, it wasn't. Because no 7 year old understands, they legally can't consent. My state just passed a law removing the time limit on charging for abuse. I truly hope it doesn't affect you too much but you were in no way responsible. Children do whatever they're told.
@richardryan2769
@richardryan2769 8 місяців тому
The Left have to (re)learn the hard way.
@Crispbac
@Crispbac Рік тому
Lol, when he explained that this is coming from the left and not from the Christian right, I lost it. Oh how the turn tables.
@codswallop321
@codswallop321 Рік тому
Well put. It was quite clear, forty years ago, that the excesses of the 60s and 70s had led us down a dark path. Hopefully the old wisdom is gradually returning to Western culture (minus the superstitious guesswork of the past).
@Windrake101
@Windrake101 Рік тому
Unfortunately the "superstitious guesswork" is returning (at least as far the politically active are concerned).
@AnthonyB2351
@AnthonyB2351 Рік тому
I'm new to this. Where does Peterson get that this issue is exclusive to the radical left? This is the first I've heard. Can someone point me towards some examples, some literature maybe, or is it just his view?
@jrd33
@jrd33 Рік тому
I would say that view is generally accepted in the West. The exception would be people against these ideas for religious reasons, which are not explicitly right wing (though devout Christians seem to be more often right wing than left wing).
@MrProsat
@MrProsat Рік тому
FIGHT BACK! For heaven's sake, young men need to fight back and not allow these freaks to label us.
@TheGiftRF
@TheGiftRF Рік тому
Our tongues have been cut out
@kashiaroundtheworld
@kashiaroundtheworld Рік тому
@@TheGiftRF as a woman I'm so sorry. At least on a popular level, Depp vs Heard shed some light on this
@complimentarycontemplation1873
@complimentarycontemplation1873 Рік тому
Bill burr the comedian on late night suggested believe 87% of women because all is just too much. And that’s hard argue. And ultimately there should be an investigation
@willgoodall1529
@willgoodall1529 Рік тому
We now live in the age of innocent until being accused
@wmgthilgen
@wmgthilgen Рік тому
If and when it's true, and everyone has Inalienable Right's, as they personaly understand, comeprend and perceive them to mean thus practice. Then NO ONE has the Inalienable Right to oppose based on their understanding, comprendsion or perception of their own personal Inalienable Right's.
@grantwhite2543
@grantwhite2543 Рік тому
These people live in a bubble of controversy and project that onto the wider society. In reality the vast majority of people live ordinary lives without the thoughts they say are commonplace.
@ET_LWO
@ET_LWO Рік тому
Purposeful projected ignorance deserves to be mocked
@dennisdose5697
@dennisdose5697 Рік тому
Jordan is back in classic form, show him a bit of modern junk reasoning that many people are falling for and in two minutes he has disassembled it for all to see and shown it for the farce it is. What a mind.
@caitlinj422
@caitlinj422 Рік тому
I know I'm completely missing the point here, but are they at a wedding? Haha imagine asking Jordan Peterson to give a toast at your wedding and getting this. 😂
@leislschutte6421
@leislschutte6421 Рік тому
That’s hilarious
@keralytekid
@keralytekid Рік тому
Nice...that was good!
@KiKi-tf8rv
@KiKi-tf8rv Рік тому
Ha!🤣🤣
@zfuckz
@zfuckz Місяць тому
This message in the video needs to be shared way more
@hunteranderson1428
@hunteranderson1428 Рік тому
When Dave started talking about people 'Not being guilty' the guy next to the girl who asked the question looked extremely guilty 😂
@tommyrq180
@tommyrq180 Рік тому
“Mobbing people who seemed to have made an error.” He has a wonderful way with words because he actually considers those words carefully. Mobbing is what people do, unfortunately. And they seem to mob about things that relieve them from accountability or consequence. That is, it’s a form of collective self-referential narcissism. But on one thing Jordan Peterson falls into a contemporary word trap. He says something we hear too often. “We need a serious conversation about…” That, my friends, is an empty, even utopian sentiment with no real meaning. Mobbing is not about serious conversations. Humans have very few serious conversations. And how might we define them in any case? Impossible. This current moment is all about people who cannot be serious asserting unsupportable things to self-aggrandize and pander, an entirely emotional, self-referential (and hence, ungeneralizable) stance entirely allergic to “serious” conversations. “Serious” conversations are, therefore, extremely rare. In the age of social media, they signals submerged in the noise of the mob. As much as I admire Jordan Peterson’s genuine care for humanity and serious scholarship and rhetorical accuracy, he falls into the trap of an entirely fluffy concept that merely points to the impossibility of doing the very thing he asserts. There are no “serious conversations” except between very small groups of rare people who share philosophical alignment on core issues. And they can’t influence anything but their immediate surroundings. There never has been, and cannot be, a “serious conversation” about real things that, by implication, arrive at insight and turn into policy or actual human normative transformation. Jordan, as brilliant and genuine as he is, is not having a serious conversation with the radical left. He’s mocking them and they attack him in return. We are all, it seems, ants on a log floating down a river. We may think we’re influencing its path, but that would be easily debunked by any entity with a higher level of understanding. Take care of your area of the log and hang on.
@diamenciarz1711
@diamenciarz1711 Рік тому
This is so eloquently put that I'm baffled. I also wonder how many people would take part in a serious conversation if Jordan was the face of one.
@joseppi1282
@joseppi1282 Рік тому
When someone has a platform to communicate with large amounts of people, I don't think their primary goal via that platform is to have serious conversations with radicals. It's probably to speak with the much larger group of moderate people who are willing to listen and conversate reasonably. De-radicalization is a worthwhile endeavor, but it's much more effective if handled on a personal level and not in the public eye where the radical will want to keep a facade to prevent public humiliation when their ideology is exposed. By reinforcing the common sense and reasonableness of moderates, those moderates are better equipped to have serious conversations with the radicals in their lives.
@hijodelaisla275
@hijodelaisla275 Рік тому
"actually"
@belletense3618
@belletense3618 Рік тому
I feel like JBP’s work will become more influential in the next 5-10 years as PhD grads who like his work move into the workforce.
@zachbuyshouses6478
@zachbuyshouses6478 Рік тому
He definitely makes me feel like I am dumb which is a good thing
@Sam63new
@Sam63new Рік тому
Well said Jordan.👏👏👏👏
@TallinnCity2410
@TallinnCity2410 Рік тому
What about misenterpreting nonverbal signs? Oh, she was asking for it, she was moving and dancing like that.
@hijodelaisla275
@hijodelaisla275 Рік тому
Not only do we have birth control, in case of a slip-up we also have abor... Huh? What's that? Oh, never mind.
@honkytonkinson9787
@honkytonkinson9787 Рік тому
Great discussion!
@xJMAN92x
@xJMAN92x Рік тому
That boy at the beginning was touching his collar nervousssssss
@jackc981
@jackc981 Рік тому
Why does commom sence is extremely expensive these days Especially for those whom have Been university educated it so sad perhaps pathetic.
@user-is3yn7xr4c
@user-is3yn7xr4c 2 місяці тому
There's no such thing as "common sense". Free will is an illusion
@thetinmansheart
@thetinmansheart 11 місяців тому
Brilliant, as always.
@danceufo9256
@danceufo9256 Рік тому
There's a magical moment when you raise the courage and take the risk to kiss someone you like. You could be turned away, and it would be embarrassing, but the risk is part of it. Many may wonder if you have the guts to take a risk. The moment is lost when you ask, unless you are a Hollywood actor.
@jeanniestaller797
@jeanniestaller797 Рік тому
Everyone IS born with original sin. That's why we need a savior.
@stephenaustin8153
@stephenaustin8153 11 місяців тому
I do not want ads like this which are sick
@Chadner
@Chadner Рік тому
I loved the discussion, just wished Jon Anderson would take the time to sing us a song or two.
@Robbie32
@Robbie32 Рік тому
This man is a blessing.
@cescapraca
@cescapraca Рік тому
It’s really simple. Sexually activity involves two ppl, both ppl get turned on. That means both want it. If your not sure that the other person wants it or they are too young to understand it, don’t do anything. Not hard.
@user-is3yn7xr4c
@user-is3yn7xr4c 2 місяці тому
The problem is some white people can't control their primitive urges
@eastcoastpodiatrycentreorc8855
@eastcoastpodiatrycentreorc8855 Рік тому
Actually, why do places of "higher learning" allow its students to become intoxicated and inebriated whenever they want? How do you learn when you are in a stupor or have a hangover? Isn't that completely antithetical to its stated mission? In an ideal world, if you enter university you are required to abstain from such substances. If you can't handle that lifestyle, then don't enroll.
@orionpax45
@orionpax45 Рік тому
Excelent and the tie that Dr Jordan is wearing is just fine =D
@johanponken
@johanponken Рік тому
1:14 "Not midgets. Now you're gonna get us in trouble." I would have liked Dave to join in, and throw down the gauntlet, by saying "Little people's lives matter".
@farinshore8900
@farinshore8900 Рік тому
The rule is: buyer beware!
@silentbob7984
@silentbob7984 Рік тому
Jordan should have continued on his tangent on alcohol. It’s a bigger problem than guns. I wonder how often alcohol is involved in shootings, car accidents, abuse, etc.
@susandrakenviller3683
@susandrakenviller3683 Рік тому
They drink alcohol in other countries too but they don’t have the gun to start shooting others.
@darylfoster7944
@darylfoster7944 Рік тому
A lot
@melissasaint3283
@melissasaint3283 Рік тому
I think they're about equal. I say this as someone who does not drink, is a fair shot on the range and has shot an AR-14. An enraged and drunken man with a semiautomatic firearm is a grave problem. He is much, much more dangerous than he would be without the firearm.
@billytessio6326
@billytessio6326 Рік тому
The NRA won't allow the CDC to even study the factors involved in shootings because the lobby is so powerful.
@silentbob7984
@silentbob7984 Рік тому
@@billytessio6326 Could be more of a trust issue. We’ve allowed the integrity of our systems to collapse. I don’t think the cdc handled Covid very well, in fact no institution handled it well. I not sure if diminished trust is all part of the game they’re playing or if it’s an unintended side note.
@bharathj63
@bharathj63 Рік тому
Mr Peterson must be celebrated and not penalised. it's baffling that that's even discussed let alone implemented in modern day society.
@willemkoning2142
@willemkoning2142 Рік тому
7:26 « with whomever »
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 4 місяці тому
ALL THE SINS FEEL GOOD IN THE SHORT TERM BUT THEY DONT GIVE LONG TERM HAPPINESS
@erandeser5830
@erandeser5830 Рік тому
JP you are so brilliant in your field. Stay out of the Shapiro band, stay inclusive, reject divisiveness.
@zeddez1005
@zeddez1005 Рік тому
Dave Rubin. I won't take advice from a person who engages in human trafficking to support his personal fixations.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 Рік тому
Lol? Whats the source for that?
@stephensepan291
@stephensepan291 Рік тому
B.S. we've been having this conversation for hundred of years. we never learn anything.
@tolstoy431
@tolstoy431 Рік тому
Best Lecture EVER Peterson gave....And as far for the mutual consent .....IT is NEVER GOING TO WORK....Best advice is to keep out the alcohol....then You Will be able to make a BETTER / WISE. DECISION....I AM sure this would make a mayor impact on abuse of any kind....
@hijodelaisla275
@hijodelaisla275 Рік тому
Your "period" key appears to be sticking.
@simongross3122
@simongross3122 Рік тому
Isn't this the reason for engagement and wedding rings? Not as a mark of ownership, but as a mark of commitment and long-term consent?
@Narrowgaugefilms
@Narrowgaugefilms 8 місяців тому
Definitely LISTEN to all women: after that it comes down to objectively gathering the usual facts and evidence, and enough of both to climb beyond the threshold of a presumption of innocence and the shadow of doubt. -an accusation should NEVER be allowed to produce a conviction without due process.
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