Jordan Peterson discusses whether men and women can ever be equal

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Psychologist and author Jordan Peterson discusses notions of gender equality with the Wright Stuff panel including Sophie Walker, leader of the Women's Equality Party.
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@ruhazell
@ruhazell 2 роки тому
“What is equality?” “Freedom” “Can you expand?” “I love my job”
@snowysadventures3698
@snowysadventures3698 2 роки тому
🤣🤣🤣 She sounded like she didn't prepare her notes the night before
@wwyd4akb
@wwyd4akb 2 роки тому
@@snowysadventures3698 or ever
@petec9686
@petec9686 2 роки тому
Yup. She's an utter twit.
@paulokello5981
@paulokello5981 2 роки тому
@@wwyd4akb 🤣
@sumthingwickedly
@sumthingwickedly 2 роки тому
Blah blah blah blah her job is safe as she can muddy the waters for morons JP is not stupid
@alexwheatley541
@alexwheatley541 3 роки тому
“What does equality mean to you?” “Freedom!” Oh for fucks sake
@stwopid
@stwopid 3 роки тому
Wouldn’t be surpirsed if she was asked how you’d measure equality and she answered with: Football fields.
@PrettyboiYT
@PrettyboiYT 3 роки тому
Its like they r stuck in a cage or something lmao
@robertmazur3172
@robertmazur3172 3 роки тому
I dont know where she lives but in my country woman can work wherever she wants as long as she have qualifications to get that job . Where is that unequality and slavary of womans XD
@JustAnotherGamer1005
@JustAnotherGamer1005 3 роки тому
Isn't it funny how that 'freedom' she is talking about is actually wanting to force women into areas of expertise they themselves don't want to be in. There are a bunch of people thinking that equal results is equal to equality, which it isn't. And that is not only in gender department, but also in other stuff like the level of intelligence of someone (which degree/qualifications they have). Forcing 'equality' has actually taken more freedom away. And has actually taken opportunities away from people who have worked for their opportunities, just because we are forcing equal results in gender, equal results in skin-color, equal results religion. Equal in anything but skill and intelligence.
@MexicanThor
@MexicanThor 3 роки тому
My thoughts exactly
@Canadanorth963
@Canadanorth963 Рік тому
Dr. Peterson always backs up his arguments with academic research and knows his stuff. People have the right to disagree with his views. For me, he is a legend, a truly genuine person that wants to help others.
@robertbarkovicz800
@robertbarkovicz800 10 місяців тому
Anyways, you can't disagree with proven facts and put your settled opinion there instead. That's kind of foolish.
@watch-box
@watch-box 8 місяців тому
Facts beat feelings every time.
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263 6 місяців тому
@@robertbarkovicz800 yeah this woman just plainly ignored the facts of a very important study. She just comes up with her unicorn riding around in her brain and says it will work. Everything is socially constructed if you are a social constructionist.
@Ieo9017
@Ieo9017 4 місяці тому
People are often extremely offended by objective reality if it doesn’t align with their preferred “reality”.
@danielgrimes8312
@danielgrimes8312 2 місяці тому
Is the most logical thing regarding this matter...I guess not all this majority is rigth but we are talking what is "fair " so...is fair enough to use studies and research ...
@santiagoosorio3518
@santiagoosorio3518 Рік тому
Something I admire about Jordan is that he really does research on every possible angle or scenario
@vertualvice
@vertualvice Рік тому
It's his field of study. It's really him and other people that don't know what they are talking about.
@derekclark1005
@derekclark1005 11 місяців тому
@@vertualvice Jordan seems to be the only person to show up to these debates with receipts.
@Jarzula
@Jarzula 11 місяців тому
Anything that has to do with a human, Jordan will know.
@ninaherge6991
@ninaherge6991 10 місяців тому
Can you tell me please where I can find this research? apparently you must have read the "data" he talks about, right? As I was astonished by what he says I decided to make some research as well and I am finding the opposite of what he says. I am myself a French woman engineer, and in France the number of women engineers keeps increasing. So yeah, if someone has the numbers he talks about I am interested. From MDPI: "Increase in Women Engineers Last year, we featured senior scientist Dr. Katalin Balazsi in our article for Women in Engineering Day. The article focused on the low proportion of female engineers in several different countries. In 2021, in a few countries, such as Norway and Latvia, over 50% of engineers were female."
@stephenoconnor2163
@stephenoconnor2163 9 місяців тому
@@ninaherge6991 you must be brain dead or something this was 5 years ago numbers change dummy
@PhilipBurton-dn3ce
@PhilipBurton-dn3ce 4 роки тому
Why do women pressure other women to get involved in fields they are not interested in just to create gender balance, it's ridiculous
@weaponized666
@weaponized666 4 роки тому
WE NEED MORE FEMALE PLUMBERS
@nlgpro
@nlgpro 4 роки тому
@@weaponized666 not a bad idea XD
@schneir5
@schneir5 4 роки тому
That's just the kind of logic these "progressives" don't want.
@Zalphen
@Zalphen 4 роки тому
Because it's the future plus the women need to take the male role when men don't go to university and when more girls do.
@bigfatburn6229
@bigfatburn6229 4 роки тому
I am a woman. I studied in mathematics & I am very “feminine” & Christian. I feel that people hearing Peterson often use that to let go their hate of women. Yes the left goes too far. But the right is worse with all those Zionist Evangelicals pro war^^. Today, left or right, it’a just a trap. Peterson brings nice elements which I agree a lot, but sometimes he becomes dangerous to people too simple to really listen.
@WorIdwideMillionaire
@WorIdwideMillionaire 4 роки тому
“What does equality mean to you” “freedom” boy this should be a good one
@faithless7985
@faithless7985 4 роки тому
lol, i thought exactly the same, but my answer to her would be:"Where are your chains? where is your ball wrapped around the anckle?"
@AHSears
@AHSears 4 роки тому
@Stroke My thought was, those are two completely different words that are not similar at all.
@bassiebassie3417
@bassiebassie3417 4 роки тому
@@AHSears yeah dude i whas like wtf did she misunderstood him or something
@feartheghus
@feartheghus 4 роки тому
Faithless well she’s in the UK so she doesn’t have certain freedoms (freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, etc.)
@NoFlightPlan
@NoFlightPlan 4 роки тому
There is no equality (scientifically, mathematically, etc.) without boundaries, rules, and framework. Therefore, freedom cannot exist where there is equality -- particularly equality of outcome. This is an inarguable characteristic of the universe.
@christygarcia117
@christygarcia117 Рік тому
"Can you explain equality? " "Freedom." "Can you elaborate? " " Freedom is good for everyone. " " I love my job. " 😂 😆
@datascientist4005
@datascientist4005 11 місяців тому
"Knowledge is Good"-Emil Faber
@Marc-rf9ei
@Marc-rf9ei 10 місяців тому
Shes quite an intellectual.. Not.
@hillbilly4895
@hillbilly4895 9 місяців тому
"I like turtles!" ~ the I like turtles kid
@chefahsan3544
@chefahsan3544 8 місяців тому
equlity meain male and female same oppurcunity should be ❤ he , she any think wanna be free should be that , s meain think freedom also relate it, .
@joseantoniogonzalez1683
@joseantoniogonzalez1683 7 місяців тому
😂
@aboozerjan
@aboozerjan 11 місяців тому
What a legend Jordan. There is never gonna be equality because we are different
@fvwak
@fvwak 10 місяців тому
All people are different
@eonreeves4324
@eonreeves4324 7 місяців тому
​@@fvwak sure, but why haven't I ever met a woman working in the oil fields? Nobody is stopping them..
@dooh6600
@dooh6600 7 місяців тому
​​@@eonreeves4324🤐
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263 6 місяців тому
if we measure everyone by what position they hold in government or high paying jobs then no one is equal. Woman can give birth so men are already unequal to women because men cannot give birth (regardless of what modern day people say that have lost touch with reality)
@drak3y
@drak3y 4 місяці тому
@@eonreeves4324..or on a construction site (doing something other than holding signs or counting things).
@nissimlevy3762
@nissimlevy3762 3 роки тому
She's not listening to him. She just ignoring all the evidence he's presenting
@0saintclark0
@0saintclark0 3 роки тому
Yep, showed herself up by ignoring the study he quoted and saying "I'm interested in studies such as...."....what she actually meant was she's only interested in studies that prove her point.
@Live-Life-Freely
@Live-Life-Freely 3 роки тому
Yes because, feelings.
@Williamottelucas
@Williamottelucas 3 роки тому
She is also not understanding him.
@nicholascampbell90
@nicholascampbell90 3 роки тому
A useful idiot in other words....
@jgarzaq
@jgarzaq 3 роки тому
actually, almost every women who debates with Mr. Peterson does that. Its a pattern.
@mfcobb1
@mfcobb1 4 роки тому
She is not a thinker, she is an activist,
@larcm3
@larcm3 4 роки тому
Exactly
@kirklandau2826
@kirklandau2826 4 роки тому
@Chainvelocity CH In an ideal sense perhaps, but most "activists" these days are under the impression that "whining" is in fact doing something important ("raising awareness" and "waking people up" are the common slogan rationales).
@AlbertAlbert-je3fs
@AlbertAlbert-je3fs 4 роки тому
She is an activist and à sick one too.
@tuchesuavae
@tuchesuavae 4 роки тому
Perfectly said
@jameswatsonatheistgamer
@jameswatsonatheistgamer 4 роки тому
Women and thinking do not go hand in hand.
@misisDK
@misisDK 7 місяців тому
I'm in STEM field for almost two decades. The company I belong to is pushing very hard with equalising men and women in our field. My company is using meritocracy in yearly employee performance evaluation for many years. Recently, with gender inclusion and equality, I've witnessed a lot of political move to promote more women. Now, as a woman, that's awesome. My problem with it though is that clearly some of the women who were being pushed for promotion are clearly not ready yet and everyone in the closed-door performance evaluation room knows it! I tried to speak out for a peer of that woman (a male) for promotion and iterated what he has done which is clearly more valuable, but I got shut down. This invalidates all the hard work of rising to the top by women like me for many years in STEM field. If I get promoted to the next level next time, now I have a doubt if its really about the good work I've done for the past year or is it just because I have female parts in between of my legs? So no, in my opinion, equalising the outcome is not good especially for those women in STEM field who tried their very best in rising to the top of their game.
@markwith140
@markwith140 5 місяців тому
Well said. People in general regardless of gender, race or whatever should be treated equally. People should not be promoted to fulfill a quota, but because their performance deserves it. To do anything else degrades the person, is not good for the business and potentially promotes resentment in the workforce in my opinion.
@Biggiiful
@Biggiiful 5 місяців тому
@markwith140. Well said, except your understanding of equality and equity is backwards. Equality is about equal treatment. Equity is about pushing for equal outcomes, regardless of merit or qualification.
@Sweethands4
@Sweethands4 4 місяці тому
....it's just another political trick by the higher up to crack the whip on labor to become more obedient, more a functionary, more "looking the part"... the corporations now have quotas of equality to fill, they can bully those lower on the hierarchy to "act" the part. It's just Big Brother closing his fist to gain tighter & tighter control over the sheeples behavior, just like ALL governments' response to COVID.
@samuelknight886
@samuelknight886 4 місяці тому
I told a female coworker five years ago, that the only reason why she got the opportunity was because she was female. Yes, she was a good worker. And a hard worker. She lacked the experience for the position. And there were many men, including myself, that way many years of experience than she, who deserved the position. But that what the company wanted. It’s not about male or female. It’s about the best person for the job.
@markwith140
@markwith140 4 місяці тому
Understood, I think I saw a different definition, but meant what you said.
@diannevaldez8670
@diannevaldez8670 10 місяців тому
It was wonderful to listen to Dr. Peterson and for the conversation to be civil.
@sophiemckeon9785
@sophiemckeon9785 5 років тому
if women truly got paid less, employers would only employee women
@omaryhassan6477
@omaryhassan6477 5 років тому
@roven 08 did you even understand what he said? You are essentially agreeing with him Women are paid less because they do not work same as men! If they did work the same as men but were still getting payed less then every capitalist venture would go for the cheaper labour who do the same work for less pay than men?!
@NPFfumbi
@NPFfumbi 5 років тому
Most of the time. I really believe all these sjw things have truth to them, but they are ALL overblown to a huge degree
@dobattlers
@dobattlers 5 років тому
Getting Jacked they dont have any truth. Since the beginning of time a certain amount of people have loved playing the victim and creating falsehoods to push an agenda that makes them feel like they have power
@NPFfumbi
@NPFfumbi 5 років тому
dobattlers they do have truth. Do some cops abuse their power? Of course. We’ve seen footage of it. But the majority don’t do that. It’s just the law of percentages. The issue with sjw is that they act like everything is an epidemic and they end up crying wolf because whatever issue they are talking about doesn’t actually happen as often as they claim. Do you get me?
@ycnexu
@ycnexu 5 років тому
Smart observation Sophie
@stranger2langley143
@stranger2langley143 4 роки тому
Dr. Peterson didn‘t even use 10% of his power lmao
@lmj987
@lmj987 4 роки тому
Stranger2Langley nah, not even 1%
@SupaSand
@SupaSand 4 роки тому
He did not even need to go super saiyan, he is still in his base form.
@aganethabergen492
@aganethabergen492 4 роки тому
Everyone knows he's smarter than most people on tv. He's just taking a breather lol.
@damienjstepick
@damienjstepick 4 роки тому
He could out-debate her using someone else’s lesser brain.
@selimozten
@selimozten 4 роки тому
Jordan: It's not even my final form!
@proventure307
@proventure307 7 місяців тому
this is as rational vs emotional as it gets - brilliant
@kainissen
@kainissen 11 місяців тому
Jordan was definitely the smartest person in that room at the time.
@SusanParker-uz5du
@SusanParker-uz5du 8 місяців тому
Hating women is the way to go these days. Of course men love a man who hates women read the comment section to see how much men hate women. Peterson can barely hide his hatred of females.
@serenityinside1
@serenityinside1 6 місяців тому
He always is !
@vedantojha7351
@vedantojha7351 3 роки тому
Everyone is a gangsta until Jordan calmly explain why they are not.
@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018
@ifigetbannedagainyoutubeis2018 3 роки тому
Lmao😂😂😂😂
@patrickhewitt6593
@patrickhewitt6593 3 роки тому
🤣🤣
@nbhage2178
@nbhage2178 3 роки тому
And they are gonna get the evidence data and statistic and additional info you never thought you might need that you are not a gangsta
@r_r_rye2441
@r_r_rye2441 3 роки тому
Best
@francisu.5005
@francisu.5005 3 роки тому
Funny she wears long hair, a dress, earrings, long nails for someone against female stereotypes and anything gender traditional
@95DarkFire
@95DarkFire 4 роки тому
"What is your definition of equality?" "Equality is good for everyone" Where do they find these people?
@N0T2BAD
@N0T2BAD 4 роки тому
Equality is only good for losers, not for winners, who would lose for the sake of miserable losers. Sad thing that there is much more losers and they will pull more and more people with them, because it's just easier to not even work hard, just force others to give their share. Usually they use our feelings, usually females and feminine men (losers) are these or vote for these people. We know them, they are leftist. They can't handle reason, logic, statistics or facts. Immidiate blameshifting and shaminglanguage strikes usually in. If they can't do that, they start to cry, because they got hurt.
@sulaimans
@sulaimans 4 роки тому
@@N0T2BAD Why wouldn't equality of opportunity be good for winners? It's not like they are going to lose now just because everyone has an equal chance. Equality of outcome is stupid though.
@N0T2BAD
@N0T2BAD 4 роки тому
@@sulaimans That's already given to most of people. But yep, I agree that it should be in future too of course. But if people don't even realise why you are among those "losers", that isn't any reason to blame and cry about inequality (of outcome). :)
@johnpepin5373
@johnpepin5373 4 роки тому
I laughed my butt off at that!!!
@ognjenrogan5224
@ognjenrogan5224 4 роки тому
In pollitics, you can hear her plug her party later in the video.
@MichaelBegnini
@MichaelBegnini 9 місяців тому
Jordan Peterson is the hero of our time and age!
@freiagalacar5786
@freiagalacar5786 6 місяців тому
Men and women are equal but they are different, and those differences should be equally valued and respected.
@TomH2681
@TomH2681 3 роки тому
Imagine being the leader of the Women's Equality Party and not knowing what equality is.
@TheMusicscotty
@TheMusicscotty 3 роки тому
Hahahaha nailed it, mate.
@izdatbOi
@izdatbOi 3 роки тому
Nah she knows equality is... just not fair equality, or equality that makes sense 😂
@LfunkeyA
@LfunkeyA 3 роки тому
there is no 'equality', that's why people with agendas make up their own definitions. there is equity.
@waitthisisnotpornhub3860
@waitthisisnotpornhub3860 3 роки тому
But she said it's freedom
@dmitrizaslavski8480
@dmitrizaslavski8480 3 роки тому
@@waitthisisnotpornhub3860 freedom of what? Complete freedom? Are men completely free to do whatever they want?
@tobiasengel8385
@tobiasengel8385 4 роки тому
She said “we need to get more boys thinking about nursing” talk about forcing your ideology on little children for equality of outcome, and then you preach equality is freedom?
@freddybeer
@freddybeer 4 роки тому
Good point!
@hellyeah4979
@hellyeah4979 4 роки тому
She hung herself,and contradicts the point she tries to make.She is part of the indoctrination that is so prevalent in the lefts ideology.
@hellyeah4979
@hellyeah4979 4 роки тому
@Shayyan Ali Don't try to figure it out you just go bonkers and thats exactly what some like her want,is confusion.The old saying goes,"B.S baffles brains".Just stick to the good old fashioned common sense,learn by your mistakes and never try to over think something,thats where people go bonkers and there is no resolve.
@rrdads
@rrdads 4 роки тому
Most underrated comment I've ever seen.
@alvin4303
@alvin4303 4 роки тому
ian damn I actually read this whole paragraph.
@kingsleyic7913
@kingsleyic7913 2 місяці тому
most pleasurable part of this for me was when Jordan Peterson kept quiet and stayed composed after talking, to listen to the other speakers but they still didn't make any major point to undermine or invalidate what he had said earlier . ..... LEGENDARY !!!!!!
@j.dunlop8295
@j.dunlop8295 Місяць тому
Self Enlightenment is hard earned, not for everyone? Mirrors of consciousness, are in the mind of reflection!😅🙏
@ReuvenF957
@ReuvenF957 4 місяці тому
I think Jordan made his point, again. OTOH, I was impressed by what the MC said at the end: There was actual discussion and no screaming or name calling and, although, as I said, I think Jordan's point are more factual, the dabate was more than cordial and it was, indeed, wonderful to see.
@silewis9396
@silewis9396 2 місяці тому
I was disappointed because I don't this woman represents that side of the argument very well at all with her points
@MathieuDeVinois
@MathieuDeVinois 3 роки тому
“Women don’t get enough coverage in media” - whenever I look into media it’s all about women and feminism. Permanently.
@LUR1FAX
@LUR1FAX 3 роки тому
I know, right? My answer to people who claim that, is to just watch other things. The only person who can decide what I see is myself.
@rutgerottens6064
@rutgerottens6064 3 роки тому
@bigpink pencil My god, seems like every comment you make, you sound more stupid. You're in a bubble.
@Norvik_-ug3ge
@Norvik_-ug3ge 3 роки тому
TV is made for women, by women.
@nikkovibez9147
@nikkovibez9147 3 роки тому
Exactly
@johnmcgregor3447
@johnmcgregor3447 3 роки тому
@bigpink pencil I don't see any programs only for guys but you get Loose Women and guff like that.
@phildoodler2199
@phildoodler2199 5 років тому
Jordan must feel like the sober guy at a party full of drunks.
@terryrussell1394
@terryrussell1394 5 років тому
I know the feeling well, I couldn't put it better.
@user-tl2cs6wv8b
@user-tl2cs6wv8b 5 років тому
I was that guy LITERALLY & most of my so called friends called me a coward because I didn't drink alcohol (still don't)😃
@phildoodler2199
@phildoodler2199 5 років тому
Benny D I was speaking in metaphor.
@DarthStygian
@DarthStygian 5 років тому
phil doodler Some of these appearances make me feel so sorry for him. You can see him physically manifest his irritation with the morons he suffers. At least his book is being plugged.
@badprogramming2486
@badprogramming2486 5 років тому
He is the sober guy, in a room full of drunk idiots.
@poojasivasubramanian
@poojasivasubramanian 8 місяців тому
Very true. In software development it's a very small percentage of women. I am a developer myself. I have only worked with men more than women. All the 10 years of my experience, I have been working as a single woman candidate in the entire Engineering team. Women start as a developer. Then they either get married and don't work or they switch to managerial side as they don't want to work under pressure.
@zengjanezhu
@zengjanezhu 4 місяці тому
I am a woman, was a programmer. When I gave birth to my son, I quit my job to raise him full time.
@NB-or8rs
@NB-or8rs 3 місяці тому
​@@zengjanezhuprops to you.
@sauli2438
@sauli2438 Рік тому
Jordan owns it again and again and again! Bravo! Hat off!
@rameezk8592
@rameezk8592 5 років тому
Jordan Peterson's patience while he's surrounded by illogical people is incredible.
@Malignus68
@Malignus68 5 років тому
There was nothing more for him to say, really. He so effortlessly exposed the foolishness of her argument that there was no way for her to recover. His job was done.
@GustAdlph
@GustAdlph 5 років тому
HI Rameez K, Jordan is a lot more patient than I would have been. I'm a woman and I wanted to jump down her throat. The blond guy made the most sense. Women still have the babies, and until science finds a way for men to have babies, things won't and can't change. BTW, it's already illegal to pay women less than men for doing the same job.
@sketchartphoto8117
@sketchartphoto8117 5 років тому
mine too!!...just listening
@rameezk8592
@rameezk8592 5 років тому
@@GustAdlph the equal pay act was passed in the 1960s in the US. Like cmon people
@theunfadeable60
@theunfadeable60 5 років тому
He sounds annoyed as hell to me. At one point he's so pissed he can't even look at that chick.
@aryapaar
@aryapaar 3 роки тому
"what is equality for you?" "i think equality is better for everyone" oki
@tevitamotulalo3909
@tevitamotulalo3909 3 роки тому
Freedom! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Russel.Idrive
@Russel.Idrive 3 роки тому
peperoni pizza
@florinaschilean6143
@florinaschilean6143 3 роки тому
equality means getting stuff for which one didn't work. (in short, it means SH1T!)
@abhijithnair4904
@abhijithnair4904 3 роки тому
i was just gonna say the same thing i guess only Indians notice this 😂😂😂😂 she so dumb she made no sense not all
@billa463
@billa463 3 роки тому
No, she respond : freedom. But your brain is not "equal " 😁
@mmelimahlobo7656
@mmelimahlobo7656 9 місяців тому
Fascinating
@Callummullans
@Callummullans 11 місяців тому
I was taught about appearance based identity politics at a progressive comprehensive school, I’m now 27 and I can testify that a sensitive perception to race and sex are just that. Thanks to the do gooders for the social anxiety and clockwork orange sensibilities but otherwise I was messed up by this systemic childhood development. I’ve noticed that the equity of socio sexual status is also becoming a significant theme not just in conversation, people’s social perspective has been robbed of organic nuance.
@KRAK107
@KRAK107 2 роки тому
Never seen so much inequality. Jordan holds 95% of all the IQ in the room.
@JayPixx
@JayPixx 2 роки тому
Hahahahaha xD 😂
@peepo19
@peepo19 2 роки тому
then again you're looking at the extremes of the gaussian distribution :P
@aanyabishesh9271
@aanyabishesh9271 2 роки тому
😂
@kargs5krun
@kargs5krun 2 роки тому
You're too generous; its more like, 98.9% of the IQ on that studio set. Speaking of which, reeks of too much soy product (the other participants) overload that they, in turn, hold an inverse 99% dominant majority therewith. (Compared to Jordan that is)
@CasualSpec
@CasualSpec 2 роки тому
The burden of not being an idiot borderlines being a curse. Now a days it's nearly a death sentence, socially for sure though.
@SAdamKessler
@SAdamKessler 4 роки тому
I love how she says "freedom" like it's a mic drop, then the host is like, "ummm how about we try again, but with a good answer this time"
@decespugliatorenucleare3780
@decespugliatorenucleare3780 4 роки тому
@Assoluto Cosmico well: they usually do
@Lionlovesunity
@Lionlovesunity 4 роки тому
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ryancoveney5063
@ryancoveney5063 4 роки тому
Hahaha
@tatskamaster
@tatskamaster 4 роки тому
@Assoluto Cosmico Well if they had a live audience of women there that comment would be met with thunderous applause..
@OneShotKiller1996
@OneShotKiller1996 4 роки тому
I was worried that the audience will start clapping and I'll lose it
@pedrokoury1352
@pedrokoury1352 7 місяців тому
We gotta look at what we are externalizing and what we are internalizing. One of them is key.
@user-iu5po6wv3x
@user-iu5po6wv3x 7 місяців тому
After I got my bachelors in physics (with astrophysics) I didn't go into it further because I didn't want to be fighting an uphill battle for the rest of my life, being viewed as "lesser than". I found some writing that I "wanted it" on the desks in the lecture halls, and even though I came top of Advanced Quantum Physics (shocking!) I just couldn't be bothered with the shock and awe that I faced everywhere that I studied physics and was a girl. A few years later I got a masters in clinical research and entered the life sciences industry which is filled with women. I have worked with 90% women ever since and I never feel out of place or like anyone is judging me. But I'm still aware that I was a more capable physicist than the vast majority of males on that course.
@bryans6151
@bryans6151 6 місяців тому
I absolutely believe what you say, and am truly angry that you got the way you were treated. Men in the workplace can still act like jerks, I suspect that you could still have risen up the ladder if your work had warranted it if you had stayed. Cream rises. As a young man I was treated similarly by women when I worked in a work place where I was the only man in a female dominated workplace. It needs a more balanced workplace, bur that still needs to be based on merit. Workplace impropriety needs to be addressed at the same time.
@zengjanezhu
@zengjanezhu 4 місяці тому
When was that? Personally given the affirmative action type of policy for the past decades, particularly past few years, when a woman or a minority excluding Asians got the job or won the highly contested scholarship, I wondered is it because of equity policy? That kind of mindset of course hurt women and minorities who got there by their own merits, but how an outsider knows, given so brazen equity policies. Like the SP 500 companies for the past three years only 6% of their new hires are white in a white dominant country.
@himantapathak3989
@himantapathak3989 2 місяці тому
You know, there are better male physicists than you
@nnadiblaise
@nnadiblaise 16 днів тому
And don't you think the life sciences should be equalised so that men have equal numbers there?
@michaelhiggins2562
@michaelhiggins2562 4 роки тому
99% of bricklayers are men. We must force more woman to become bricklayers.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada 4 роки тому
Its the clown in the blonde wig I'm suspicious of.
@imluvinyourmum
@imluvinyourmum 4 роки тому
Machines can do that, 99% of programmers and mechanical engineers are men too though lol. Most women go for easy jobs, that’s just the way it is. Easy jobs have supply though so the demand is low = low pay. They aren’t asking for an increase in wage for garbage men paid by the gov, only education as it’s mostly female and a cushy job compared to trades or STEM fields.
@CorrectionUnknown
@CorrectionUnknown 4 роки тому
women*
@rkmenescal
@rkmenescal 4 роки тому
I don't think the idea of equality means we should force them to do it. Equality means we should allow them to do it if they wish to and are able to, without harassment or prejudice.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada 4 роки тому
That the most incoherent crap I have ever read. You don't read much do you. Go and drink your beer and watch some teletubbies or something.
@user-cg8ll2md8x
@user-cg8ll2md8x 3 роки тому
Never say "equality of outcome" in front of Jordan Peterson.
@realwingman1
@realwingman1 3 роки тому
She knew she fucked up as soon as she said it
@xrphoenix7194
@xrphoenix7194 3 роки тому
@bigpink pencil yes, the place where the science has been done
@GunesOAcar
@GunesOAcar 3 роки тому
Aha!
@bertert158
@bertert158 3 роки тому
@@xrphoenix7194 Sadly these people doesn't care about the result of science unless it fits their agenda.
@stookie5932
@stookie5932 3 роки тому
@@bertert158 true which sucks because if they stop we as humans could grow
@margaretdoxo1377
@margaretdoxo1377 7 місяців тому
I love Jordan Peterson, He is exellent in every way possible, Thank you!!!
@fortheloveofrottweilers2428
@fortheloveofrottweilers2428 8 місяців тому
Never have a battle of wits with an unarmed person,” Mark Twain.
@kojbo
@kojbo 3 роки тому
I honestly feel bad for Peterson, it's like he's the only sane man on the pannel, every time
@peterdavison5135
@peterdavison5135 3 роки тому
The only sane person.
@evgenyocean426
@evgenyocean426 3 роки тому
The only sane human being.
@Someone-cj4np
@Someone-cj4np 3 роки тому
nope! i am sure there are many panel discussions where others were intelligent too, but we wouldn't see them on YT because they are not viral.
@coachkboxing2675
@coachkboxing2675 3 роки тому
Yeah but comments like this and millions of views from supporters make him continue to push.
@stephanosuk78
@stephanosuk78 3 роки тому
You can see him wince at the repetitiveness of the arguments that are put to him.
@scottb1019
@scottb1019 2 роки тому
Jordan has said in his lectures, "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room. " Clearly, he's in the wrong room.
@MrShmoul
@MrShmoul 2 роки тому
1000%
@Altair19979752S
@Altair19979752S 2 роки тому
That's btw not from him originally
@antonyduhamel1166
@antonyduhamel1166 2 роки тому
The sad truth to that statement is that, if we all followed it religiously, we'd all end up in rooms by ourselves. That's not a good outcome.
@Alex1973
@Alex1973 2 роки тому
I think on this occasion, he may have even been in the wrong building.
@malcolmalden
@malcolmalden 2 роки тому
I think he has said before that these interviews and Morning TV Shows tire him out. He had considered turning them down multiple times because they get him on not to debate, but to attack him and he has admitted constantly falling into the trap.
@vanderheijden5123
@vanderheijden5123 7 місяців тому
Jordan ❤❤
@tedlogan4867
@tedlogan4867 9 місяців тому
The salient question is: If complete, absolute equality could be achieved as these ideologues define it, who would want that, and would it be beneficial or even useful in any way?
@dr.d4957
@dr.d4957 4 роки тому
To quote a Twitter post I saw recently: Isn't it amazing that a man who feels he's a woman is "born this way", yet a man who knows he's a man is "a product of social conditioning and environment".
@maxjarangi171
@maxjarangi171 4 роки тому
D. S. 😂 lol this is good. I’m gonna use this sometime
@TheBaioken
@TheBaioken 4 роки тому
Exactly, transgenderism contradicts feminist theories quite nicely.
@joecarom391
@joecarom391 4 роки тому
One thing is gender identity as such, the societal norms that apply to each respective gender, after it has been established are a second thing. Differentiating would really help an honest argument, because it decreases the chances if people misunderstanding one another
@TheBaioken
@TheBaioken 4 роки тому
@@joecarom391 and those two things happen totally independent from one another right? Boys like to pkay with toy cars at a very young age bc they are already shaped like that, right? Its just so curious that transgender people often like to behave in a "stereotypical" way that is associated with the opposite sex.
@joecarom391
@joecarom391 4 роки тому
@@TheBaioken the difference between nature and nurture is more complex than that, certain stereotypes and cliches are present in the media, and it's naiv to believe that that doesn't hold effect on people. If anything it's so ingrained that people don't question it. All typical behaviors? Didn't say that. Some are propagated for sure. Not to say that all of them are bad, and that people might feel comfortable with them. Especially when empowering. As for transgenders, they often feel the need to overperform their gender, because they are scared of not being accepted as transgender otherwise.
@apalsnerg
@apalsnerg 3 роки тому
"Okay, but, I don't like those statistics, so this is what I believe instead"
@counsela9240
@counsela9240 3 роки тому
Lol
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 3 роки тому
Statistics can be manipulated to tell very big lies, however, this has never been done by jordan, only by those who argue against himz
@Marcus-ec1kx
@Marcus-ec1kx 3 роки тому
Said every leftist ever
@vyrenvygolo2429
@vyrenvygolo2429 3 роки тому
@@gravinboginagis6568 Everything you know can be a lie. Its up to you to find wich is the truth. But sweet lies work better than hurtfull truths for the mentaly weak. ~Verno
@gravinboginagis6568
@gravinboginagis6568 3 роки тому
@@vyrenvygolo2429 bruh I’m gonna print that out and stick it on me my bedroom wall,
@hermanhansirahm9754
@hermanhansirahm9754 Рік тому
When I started listening to Jordan and debates including him I thought of him as a complete genius with these brilliant ideas, observation and analysis, almost supernatural. And while he is definitely intelligent, the more I listen to him nowadays, the more I find him as a normal* and sane guy curious of research with interest of evidence and truth at heart. It makes me optimistic that it's not necessarily intelligence that make people see things things for what they are. *Normal to my standards
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263
@renewablefuelsanalyst8263 6 місяців тому
normal is the new genius
@datascientist4005
@datascientist4005 11 місяців тому
I appreciated the civility of the conversation. Unfortunately, the US is unable to do so.
@williambarnes5023
@williambarnes5023 5 років тому
Of course men and women aren't equal. Men and men aren't even equal.
@williambarnes5023
@williambarnes5023 5 років тому
Souls aren't real. Your value is your merit and ability. These are physical and mental characteristics. Some people are really smart, but are in a wheelchair. Some people are really strong, but dumb as bricks. Expecting Mike Tyson to be as good a physicist as Stephen Hawking, Stephen Hawking to be as good a boxer as Mike Tyson, or women to work as hard and be as strong and capable as men, is retarded. Equality isn't true of men, and it isn't true of women either. Percentile for percentile, men are better than women at damn near everything. And thanks to traps, we now know that "damn near everything" includes being better at "being women". There are biological differences in both the body and the brain that enforce gender roles and your biology doesn't actually care if your chosen politics find that problematic or not. You can get on board with it, or you can fight it and lose. That's why the gender roles exist. Women are emotional and manipulative and seek dependability and resources and commitment because they raise children, and those skills make them successful at it. Men are strong and responsible and logical because they have to take care of and provide for the family, and those skills make them successful at it. A woman's decisions and opinions don't need to be right, because when she's wrong the man fixes it. So she can be irrational and still raise children. But a man has to be competent, or his role as provider won't actually work, because there's no double-man above him to bail him out. The buck stops with him, which is why the man is the head of the household.
@williambarnes5023
@williambarnes5023 5 років тому
Thanks for clarifying.
@grahamhill676
@grahamhill676 5 років тому
@@williambarnes5023 Equal, but not the same
@funkyguy99
@funkyguy99 5 років тому
@@williambarnes5023 maybe you don't have a soul or are you just being an arsesoul?
@williambarnes5023
@williambarnes5023 5 років тому
*"maybe you don't have a soul or are you just being an arsesoul?"* That's brilliant. You should write material for feminist comedians.
@andri5071
@andri5071 4 роки тому
Host: what is equality for you? Woman: freedom. Host: can you be more specific? Woman: I love my job.
@MyPhilcat
@MyPhilcat 4 роки тому
3rd wave feminazi 😆
@jackjohnson948
@jackjohnson948 4 роки тому
😭😭😭
@ben_1
@ben_1 4 роки тому
That's because she couldn't say: "Basically women get everything for free and everyone has to do as I say."
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 4 роки тому
What a stupid answer - it sounded like she did not even understand the question. Feminsts are super stupid.
@mannen1221
@mannen1221 4 роки тому
@@pingpong9656 I think she actually tried to understand, but wanted to bring up the research she had prepared. I don't know who she is, but she seems way too underqualified for this discussion. When you compare her to other feminists he's been discussing with, she's tolerable.
@aedrilas4046
@aedrilas4046 7 місяців тому
Actually the archetype of the IT girl in movies and TV shows has been around for a pretty long time now and it hasn’t affected the imbalance in the IT world
@marcusjosefsson4998
@marcusjosefsson4998 6 місяців тому
Exactly! And as where IT-boys/men are still presented as nerds, socially awkward and not very good looking, the IT-girls/women are portrayed as very strong, smart, self secure and good looking.
@Legitti
@Legitti 7 місяців тому
As Scandinavian I can vouch for this.
@ditchditch6945
@ditchditch6945 2 роки тому
Jordan’s best quality is not his intelligence, it’s his patience.
@steffenh4775
@steffenh4775 2 роки тому
No it's probably that he actually researched what he was talking about.
@flopchop8464
@flopchop8464 2 роки тому
Nice stolen comment.
@micahgelfand8282
@micahgelfand8282 2 роки тому
He's so patient he went into a medically induced coma to avoid withdrawal from benzos
@jose91807
@jose91807 2 роки тому
@@steffenh4775 true
@Bassmastervik
@Bassmastervik 2 роки тому
OMG truth
@rclakmal
@rclakmal 3 роки тому
The blonde guy doesn't even realize that there is a massive difference between equality of opportunity and outcome. I don't know how Jordan comes out sane after talking to these people.
@xilwarcraft
@xilwarcraft 3 роки тому
Many people are in the same case. They are too dumb to realize there is a difference 😔
@subtituru9486
@subtituru9486 3 роки тому
Fr
@riob7119
@riob7119 3 роки тому
Can someone explain the difference of equality of outcome and oppurtunity
@edwardpinder5634
@edwardpinder5634 3 роки тому
@@riob7119 equal opportunity would say that if two people have the same skill set ie one man and one woman they will have a completely equal opportunity (ie likelyhood of success in interview) when applying for say a nursing job say (Jordan would certainly agree with this). Equal outcome would say that there should be 50% male nurse and 50% female nurses in a hospital (Jordan does not agree with this).This is because if you took 1,000 men and 1,000 women, a higher number of woman would want to go into a caring profession such as nursing. This is partly environmental, but also partly genetic. If you tried to equalise everything in the environment as they have tried in Scandanavia more woman would still want to do nursing as this is a genetic trait. So paradoxically if you decide equal outcome is essential people will have less choice at doing things they actually want to do.
@rclakmal
@rclakmal 3 роки тому
@@riob7119 JBP explains it well in the video. But sure, let me give a try. Equal opportunity ensures that regardless of which groups you belong to as an individual, you are provided with the same rights and the same access to the opportunities. For example, say there are 10 vacancies for a job in a company. Regardless of your gender, race, sexual orientation or what not, you are eligible to submit an application in order to be considered for the job. Equality of outcome is about prioritizing the group identities. Your group identity takes the primary focus and your individual character takes the secondary focus. So considering the same example above, if the company wants to ensure equality of outcome, they will select the 10 hires according to the proportions of numerous groups in the population. If women account for 50% of the population 5 vacancies should go to women. If 30% of the population are from the minority race, 3 vacancies should go to the candidates from that race. If 10% of the population are gay, then at least 1 gay person should get the job. Equality of outcome completely ignores the individual capabilities, social, cultural and biological contexts. It simply talks about quotas. Quota for women, quota for colored, quota for gay, quota for this and quota for that. It is a never ending catastrophe, which could result in right person not getting the opportunity. Plus if you are an individual in a group, which they think that deserves a quota, even if you did get the job solely based on your merits, you will think of yourself, and will be labeled within your peers as a quota entry, which is highly unfair, yet cannot avoid as long as we practice quotas. If you are a girl, You wouldn't want to be a "girl" engineer. You would just want to be an ENGINEER.
@ryancropper4784
@ryancropper4784 10 місяців тому
When she says "I think the difference between me and Jordan is..." that sentence should end with "he looks at actual data and makes rational conclusions where I want to live in a fantasy land"
@edwardparsons5316
@edwardparsons5316 10 місяців тому
On point ☝️
@francissfukbuddy8457
@francissfukbuddy8457 3 роки тому
This title is clickbait: Jordan Peterson supports equality of opportunity, which is the only kind of equality worth having.
@nano4778
@nano4778 3 роки тому
It’s UK media, it’s ALL pro left wing and click bait
@gburyhockey9
@gburyhockey9 3 роки тому
@@nano4778 same in the US. unfortunate that the corporate media chooses to divide us based on superficiality and identity politics, knowing that most people will concede to their emotions rather than their rationality.
@kdburner7356
@kdburner7356 3 роки тому
jeremys a tool
@dennistzo
@dennistzo 3 роки тому
@@kdburner7356 the Tories are tools
@javierventura7989
@javierventura7989 3 роки тому
I hope you do know that Peterson said he doesn’t think women and men could work together because the women will distract the men working. I can try to look up the video if you want. Also here Peterson talk he always gives “non-answers” but slightly imposes his views. These replies give him leeway by saying “I never said women will distract men I just said when women show up to work they where makeup and proactive clothes which may not be good around men.”
@davidhellens7127
@davidhellens7127 4 роки тому
Watching Jordan Peterson debate the average uk tv personality is like watching a NASA computer debate a fridge magnet.
@woden_the_wanderer
@woden_the_wanderer 3 роки тому
This comment has no where near the love it deserves.
@Hipppogrifff
@Hipppogrifff 3 роки тому
Love this 😂😂👍🏻👍🏻
@sirkuchen1501
@sirkuchen1501 3 роки тому
XD good comparison
@kieranmcnally6345
@kieranmcnally6345 3 роки тому
Excellent 👌😀
3 роки тому
lmao.. 😂
@Wealthwise420
@Wealthwise420 11 місяців тому
"I love how this video dives deep into [subject] while keeping it entertaining and engaging. Kudos to the creator!"
@husikingach1536
@husikingach1536 7 місяців тому
I like how she avoided the first question straight away and sneaked in some sweet talk to sugar coat the poison and sneak it in right at the end of her sentence
@ezassegai4793
@ezassegai4793 5 років тому
Peterson: If you try to run through a wall, you will hurt yourself. Woman: Thats an interesting theory.
@khorps4756
@khorps4756 5 років тому
let's try it! the only thing to fear is fear itself!
@ginosmovies
@ginosmovies 5 років тому
EZ Assegai: LOL! Woman should try that test , to prove the "theory" !
@adulfdabo898
@adulfdabo898 5 років тому
However, if you hurt yourself, it's a man's fault, cause men built this wall.
@stotterotter8003
@stotterotter8003 5 років тому
"It just hurt because I didn't try enough."
@ezassegai4793
@ezassegai4793 5 років тому
@@stotterotter8003 "thats not REAL RUNNING"
@Operation3Sixty
@Operation3Sixty 3 роки тому
Him: What is equality to you? Her: Freedom Him: Can you elaborate? Her: I think its good for everyone Wow so profound
@nate6757
@nate6757 3 роки тому
You cant forget "I love my job"
@Rex73777
@Rex73777 3 роки тому
"I'm interested in the data as well. Like that one study that validates my opinion."
@ethanmarks4079
@ethanmarks4079 3 роки тому
Technically she did elaborate... 🤷
@Operation3Sixty
@Operation3Sixty 3 роки тому
@@raedbk7234 That sound eerily sexist
@kfj6709
@kfj6709 3 роки тому
@@raedbk7234 keep it to yourself. Losers who want pussy and women who have been told otherwise will hate you.
@laurenmullis5081
@laurenmullis5081 3 місяці тому
It's been interesting in the past few years to see the swing back to women realizing that they can have the privilege of staying in the home if they want to. My mom worked incredibly hard, building her business from the ground up to provide for her family. It was her dream to stay home and raise her kids, but as it turned out, she was always torn between providing and being present. Equality is having autonomy to choose your life and to be valued by society. It isn't about which gender makes the most money. Feminism in its current form is selling a bad deal.
@Offhisrocker
@Offhisrocker 11 місяців тому
if you have two pieces to a puzzle both being the same size and configuration that fit together perfectly; what is the point of which piece is the more important or superior if the joining creates harmony and balance?
@jomomma8754
@jomomma8754 5 років тому
Man: Lays out scientific facts Woman: "So his theory..."
@costanzauk
@costanzauk 5 років тому
i agree but its not a MAN, WOMAN thing
@jaimem4973
@jaimem4973 5 років тому
Tommy Coyle oh, yes it is - at least a strong preponderance. I agree on most issues with Julia Hartley Brewer, but she’s at the extreme tail of the female bell curve in terms of logical thinking, c.f. emotional thinking.
@garetclaborn
@garetclaborn 5 років тому
hahaha u scoundrel
@dystopia-incognito
@dystopia-incognito 5 років тому
I dunno man, she sounds like a moron to me.
@tenchu65
@tenchu65 5 років тому
Insult upon insult
@thecove4770
@thecove4770 4 роки тому
I’m a woman. Jordan Peterson represents my voice much better than nearly every woman I hear in media or politics. 😂
@bethanybeal313
@bethanybeal313 4 роки тому
Right!?
@daniloking223
@daniloking223 4 роки тому
Did I ask???
@meteor2012able
@meteor2012able 4 роки тому
@ The Cove: I would have loved to have lunch with you or gone on a long beach hike where we could draw stuff in the sand. We could have had "down and dirty" conversations (honest, realistic ) about gender differences. But, socially constructed underlying gender issues usually prevent this types of free dialogs. I love strong honest women who tell truths boldly and as free of feminist crap as possible. Trust me, men and women are very different in many ways.... and biology is basically why.
@dragons2686
@dragons2686 4 роки тому
Agreed.
@MrCoolAlmond
@MrCoolAlmond 4 роки тому
Candas Owens?
@reabetsweimanmoabi7911
@reabetsweimanmoabi7911 Рік тому
I am a woman and I am NOT equal to a man 😊 and I am such a happy WOMAN!! ❤
@ProGamingWithAlok
@ProGamingWithAlok Рік тому
U are not equal u are unique queen
@fvwak
@fvwak 9 місяців тому
But you have rights. Dont forget it.
@MrAdamChristopher
@MrAdamChristopher 3 роки тому
lmfao peterson just built different
@notyourbusiness7097
@notyourbusiness7097 3 роки тому
I just wanted to say that you have an amazing voice, keep going 🙂.
@Banties
@Banties 3 роки тому
Bill Dipperly?
@scrub2657
@scrub2657 3 роки тому
@@Banties NODDERS
@a.d.64
@a.d.64 3 роки тому
@@jasonhartsell993 its a meme
@TjAndersonMMA
@TjAndersonMMA 3 роки тому
@@jasonhartsell993 no
@z3char1ah
@z3char1ah 3 роки тому
lol, she couldn't even explain what "equality" is.
@Darrin-ws1fh
@Darrin-ws1fh 3 роки тому
First thought that went through my mind as well.
@fullmetalyellowjacket8560
@fullmetalyellowjacket8560 3 роки тому
Freedom 💀
@richard20062006
@richard20062006 3 роки тому
Freedom and equality (of outcome) are mutually exclusive. I can't beleive she made herself look that silly within the first twelve seconds of the clip.
@Langley_Ackerman19
@Langley_Ackerman19 3 роки тому
Yes, I cringed when she said Equality for her is Freedom.
@The.Nasty.
@The.Nasty. 3 роки тому
Roll Tide Roll!
@KrugerLDN
@KrugerLDN 7 місяців тому
3:26 Jordans reaction to what she said was priceless
@rainbownft591
@rainbownft591 9 місяців тому
I love the ending. "diverse views but can still have a civil conversation"
@ArmouredProductions
@ArmouredProductions 5 років тому
Peterson: [Says Fact supported by data and studies] Woman: "That's an interesting theory"
@danielbalev991
@danielbalev991 5 років тому
It is clear example that man and woman don't thing the same.
@forestsunset9617
@forestsunset9617 5 років тому
"Jordan is interested in scientific and evolutionary data, I'm interested in society and its gender bias" In other words JP is interested in facts, her in non-provable theories that men are sitting around thinking of ways to hold women back.
@lostsurferjames5
@lostsurferjames5 5 років тому
This is a huge issue with the left(American Left for my example). The Right will just deny studies but they are consistent on what they deny, while the Left cherry pick to their agenda and tend to be very hypocritical because of it and typically illogical. They echo chamber hard and if you corner one in a debate its very easy to out wit them
@suprstraight2421
@suprstraight2421 5 років тому
I'm a 555 like , but will that stop apocalypse?
@moved2bitchute779
@moved2bitchute779 5 років тому
This
@steppenwolf516
@steppenwolf516 4 роки тому
Jordan Peterson: "The overwhelming proportion of people who are in prisons are male. Do you wanna equalize that? Feminist quietly swallows saliva.
@christophersurnname9967
@christophersurnname9967 4 роки тому
Bahahahah
@chambo1010
@chambo1010 4 роки тому
Well actually, if she was quick enough, the answer would have been yes. By putting in programmes that equalize men and women by REDUCING the number of men in prison down to the same no. as women in prison.
@christophersurnname9967
@christophersurnname9967 4 роки тому
chambo1010 Yeah, we’re investing so much focus in pushing women ahead because they’re “disadvantaged”. How about some attention to males from low-socioeconomic backgrounds to reduce incarceration numbers?? That’s a more clear-cut pressing problem to me. Then the feminists will say “but they choose to do crimes”... but don’t women “choose to do lower paid occupations, degrees, hours, etc”?? Then they’ll say “yes but that’s because of gender-normative social pressure etc”... okay “what if that’s the case for low-socioeconomic male felons “... feminist: “but they choose to do crimes”... me: “okay but why”... feminists “because they just do”.. me: “no, be fair, you have to give *some* reason/s”... feminist is then logically cornered to say either male biology/hormones, or social conditioning/pressure for lower-socioeconomic men, or some combination. If they say biology, then that’s straight up hypocrisy, since I say biology is a reason women make lower paid career choices (ie having kids, working less, for “female” careers etc), OR if they say socio-cultural reasons, then that’s the same argument they are giving for females not enrolling in STEM university courses... or if they say discrimination is a cause, then same thing, that’s what they say about the gender pay gap - same thing, hypocrisy. Regardless of which reason they pick, male incarceration rates is at least just as much of a problem as gender pay gap. If they refuse to choose to acknowledge reasons for men’s “choice” to commit crimes (ie. the reason is just that they “choose”) then that means it’s equally valid for me to say the same thing that it’s just that across the board women “choose” lower paid work situations. The truth is, for both issues, it’s different combinations of all of these factors. I think there’s a much more solid case for lower-socioeconomic men being “discriminated” against by the system then for women being “discriminated” against in this day and age.
@Axxidous
@Axxidous 4 роки тому
That argument didn’t even make sense. What does it have to do with anything? Jordan usually gives great arguments so I put him at a far higher standard than that. You kinda come off as one of those people who behaves in a way he doesn’t really condone. Like you probably go around talking about leftists this and leftists that and call them libtards. You can’t have real thoughts or opinions when you’re so heavily bias.
@anaa9245
@anaa9245 4 роки тому
chambo1010 you’re smart
@cozme28
@cozme28 9 місяців тому
she said it, optimistic and hopeful.
@Sammy-mk5ov
@Sammy-mk5ov Місяць тому
This is an insight 5yrs ago and we can still see its importance as of today. I may be more into right leaning part or conservatism not bc of my own biased political view but of the evidences he presented throughout the discussion.
@Mceddd
@Mceddd 4 роки тому
He's literally so bored, he's just playing with the pen the whole time
@drzerogi
@drzerogi 4 роки тому
It reminds me of the discussion he had with Helen Lewis where he said that the conversation was boring and predictable because everything she was saying was mouthpiece leftist ideology. As with Lewis, the woman in the video was regurgitating the same feminist doctrine over and over, not even opening her own mind to listening what Peterson was saying.
@dragonstuff1983
@dragonstuff1983 4 роки тому
I don't think that he's bored. I think that is how he processes the information coming in and uses it to keep focused.
@crw662
@crw662 4 роки тому
@@dragonstuff1983 Agreed, I do the same thing and it drives my wife mad. I, however, am nowhere near as intelligent or eloquent in my speech as he is.
@beatsilver5266
@beatsilver5266 4 роки тому
Its cause the pen has a better point the person he's arguing with....
@paulreader1777
@paulreader1777 4 роки тому
@@crw662 Would call him silver-tongued rather than eloquent.
@rayblack2004
@rayblack2004 3 роки тому
"Fine, lets equalize choice, but we wont get equal outcome that way" - Jordan Peterson
@lancelmccune
@lancelmccune 3 роки тому
Perfect isn’t it? Everyone gets to try out for the single varsity team. Equal choice for everyone, both genders. Of course we know who will make the team. The outcome will not be equal.
@nicoduran98
@nicoduran98 3 роки тому
@@lancelmccune I don’t know what that is I guess is a sports team or something. Of course they are gonna choose all males because they are physically more adécuate to get done the job that’s required, and that’s just because of fisiologícal nature. Did you saw that thing that happened 2 days ago where a girl kicked a ball in a football game, the team trying to be all progressive and stuff, (She didn’t had to present any kind of test to show she was better than the other ones available, they only gave her the chance cause she was a girl) You know what happened? she only took it to 30 yards, the team lost by more than 40 points and the head coach was fired 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thats why Jordan brought up the brick workers do you also wanna equalize that? NO. That’s why society to try to gave women that experience they wanted to lived, they rightfully so, created things like the WNBA so they can do what they want AT THEIR OWN LVL. This is just a nature condition that you cannot change.
@Alex-Proud-American
@Alex-Proud-American 3 роки тому
@@nicoduran98 may I add that the women kicker kicked once, made a terrible halftime speech by blaming her team almost, and they didnt just lose by more than 40, they lost 41-0
@PG13hockeyman
@PG13hockeyman 3 роки тому
That’s right. That’s what capitalism is. It’s the equality of opportunity. It’s up to those who want to take that opportunity. The outcome will not be equal. If it was, that would be communism.
@arno7163
@arno7163 3 роки тому
@@Alex-Proud-American Wait so it was 1 girl in a team of guys vs a guys team?
@elmuanhangzo8919
@elmuanhangzo8919 8 місяців тому
Kudos, Jordan Peterson.
@Rsharlan3
@Rsharlan3 4 роки тому
I can't understand why Jordan Peterson is so popular-he makes way too much sense.
@Your_username_
@Your_username_ 4 роки тому
Rare thing nowadays
@greggeverman5578
@greggeverman5578 4 роки тому
Yeah, they should ban people who make too much sense!
@Peepandbridgette87
@Peepandbridgette87 4 роки тому
Gregg Everman so far they are trying to make them censored. Because the loudest people are thinking he’s a horrible person. The majority agree with him.
@sem7039
@sem7039 4 роки тому
You got me in the first half, ngl
4 роки тому
What a poignant comment. Very well said.
@ZIP854
@ZIP854 4 роки тому
"What is equality, Sophie?" "Equality is freedom." "Can you be more specific?" "I think equality is for everyone. I love my job, because . . . " Oh my God this lady is just a political robot. She's so afraid of saying anything at all, she says nothing at all.
@KingKhan-123
@KingKhan-123 4 роки тому
😹
@yasmin_thelight6789
@yasmin_thelight6789 4 роки тому
HAHAHA. It was painful to watch really
@williammorgan9047
@williammorgan9047 4 роки тому
Lol pure fluff, talk about candy coating socialism! Fluff flufff, egaulty of outcome for everyone, fluff flufff fluff, freedom and Eutopia, fluff fluff fluff purge the haters, lock down, mandatory genicide,, purge the haters...
@skyereave9454
@skyereave9454 4 роки тому
@Wilfried MBANG he said they increase
@jdubthagreat09
@jdubthagreat09 4 роки тому
Lol dumbasses cant even answer a simple question when asked
@Phil9873
@Phil9873 10 місяців тому
According to a study in the 2005 Fall edition of The British Journal of Psychology, men's IQs exceed women's by an average of 5 points. The disparity is more pronounced at higher levels, with three men for every woman scoring above 130 IQ and more than five men per woman above 145 IQ.
@nth7273
@nth7273 4 роки тому
"teaching boys and girls ideas of pink and blue"- and she is wearing pink and all the guys wearing blue.
@TheTeehee11111
@TheTeehee11111 4 роки тому
What a moron she is!
@koin88love
@koin88love 4 роки тому
@@TheTeehee11111 Great observation!
@TheTeehee11111
@TheTeehee11111 4 роки тому
@@koin88love I know that was obvious but it's a good way for me to dissipate my frustration by writing it down😂
@laygotsomethingtosay3357
@laygotsomethingtosay3357 4 роки тому
😂
@techop2010
@techop2010 4 роки тому
On the surface that would seem like a good arguement. but i can imagine already that her response would be that they are just fallling into the stereotypes that are forced upon them. Part of the reason that their arguements still live on despite the evidence pointing the other way is that they can easily disregard the evidence. The point in the video above where this is most obvious is when Jordan said that the Scandanavian countries are trying it and failing. She responed by saying, well they aren't there yet. She like all the equality of outcome supporters has built up a huge repository of arguements and counters that bypass the evidence. It makes them very difficult to effectively debate on short interviews because you dont have time to pull apart each arguement. but if She were put against him in a longform debate, I think it would be much easier to tear down her arguements.
@JohnSmith-su3ze
@JohnSmith-su3ze 3 роки тому
Jordan: "Do you want more female bricklayers?" Lady: *blank stare*
@gandomlee
@gandomlee 3 роки тому
They never want the hard jobs of physical labor. So called equality. Told my wife the other day when she asked me to take out the trash I said you got arms and legs. She said but you the man, I said good make sure to wash the dishes lol.
@Gokiza
@Gokiza 3 роки тому
@@gandomlee LMAO BASED
@AghomiXfit
@AghomiXfit 3 роки тому
@@gandomlee king
@gandomlee
@gandomlee 3 роки тому
A relationship is all about shared responsibilities and there is nothing wrong with gender roles. I got a good women glad I didnt find someone like that lady lol
@usa45CC
@usa45CC 3 роки тому
I sure don't, thank God for manly men
@i_am_reshad
@i_am_reshad 7 місяців тому
Jordan Peterson's absolute genius
@oscarwalet1814
@oscarwalet1814 6 місяців тому
The fact that schools, media and so many people are trying to push women in STEM fields and the numbers are not increasing might be a sign that its more a choice than anything else.
@firstnamelastname9219
@firstnamelastname9219 4 роки тому
"what does equality mean to you" "fReEdOm"
@demonpride1975
@demonpride1975 4 роки тому
lol i was like that isn't equality, i had to sit back and think, did she just spit something out on the spot and not really think about it.
@kirstiemartin6554
@kirstiemartin6554 4 роки тому
Hahha yes you know us women here in the west have it so hard
@vri5384
@vri5384 4 роки тому
She responded that with her menstrual hormone surge.....
@oldskoolordie
@oldskoolordie 4 роки тому
Equality should be hire the best people not hire people because they are male/female. If that means less men or less women then that’s equality.
@1_Lando
@1_Lando 4 роки тому
Dumbest answer bitches don’t even know what they want they just wanna have a say
@watchman-pu7tp
@watchman-pu7tp 4 роки тому
Jordan: Two plus two equals four. Feminist: I want it to be six. Jordan: But it isn't. Feminist: But since I'm an optimist, I still think it could be six. Jordan: Whatever.
@jessebrown4947
@jessebrown4947 4 роки тому
Feminist: If we get the media on our side we can make them think its 6 its the medias fault its 4 after all
@berkhanoguz987
@berkhanoguz987 4 роки тому
Ahahhahahahahahahhsah
@berkhanoguz987
@berkhanoguz987 4 роки тому
At the end of the talk jordan says whatever jesus this is brilliant xD
@geraldm4728
@geraldm4728 4 роки тому
You have a perfect grasp of this entire conversation.
@OMGaZUBAT
@OMGaZUBAT 4 роки тому
Not what feminist is about but ok...
@cryo9216
@cryo9216 9 місяців тому
I sold hand-crafted wood toys for 20 years. Countless times I saw parents give their kids free choice in deciding what they wanted and in what color. My observations convinced me unequivocally that when given the freedom to do so, boys and girls almost always make gender-specific choices - especially when it comes to blue and pink.
@boskonikolic8961
@boskonikolic8961 5 років тому
"I think the difference between Jordan and I is that we lean towards different theories" Nah mate, the difference between Jordan and you is about 10 000+ research papers and 40 IQ points.
@eean_maxwell
@eean_maxwell 5 років тому
hahahahahahah
@rigafraction1653
@rigafraction1653 5 років тому
I think 40 is being far too generous to her
@kevincarter2020
@kevincarter2020 5 років тому
at least 60
@justice3350
@justice3350 5 років тому
exactly that
@notyourbruh
@notyourbruh 5 років тому
The Iq difference is over 9000
@PD_Swag
@PD_Swag 4 роки тому
She’s all about “equality of outcome” until Jordan says that women should also be brick layers, then she reverts to the “maximizing choice” idea...
@chris2790
@chris2790 4 роки тому
She was confused about this from the beginning.
@fukkitful
@fukkitful 4 роки тому
I've had 2 separate jobs in construction. I did residential framing and ran a cnc/installed countertops. Guess how many women we had working for us! Zero. And its not because they wouldn't hire women. Its just none applied. I now work for a restaurant. We have 16 females and only 6 guys. With 8 females compared to 3 males who are 20 and older. Women choice not to go into better paying fields.
@rorytennes8576
@rorytennes8576 4 роки тому
Brad Maggard bingo.
@danielhernandez-vo9zc
@danielhernandez-vo9zc 4 роки тому
Feminist only want equality of outcome if there’s a lot of money or power involved in it. Along with a desk job.😂
@AlquimistEd
@AlquimistEd 4 роки тому
It is virtually impossible to have equality of outcome and equality of choice, they are mutually exclusive, and it's ridiculously obvious to anyone with half a brain.
@mibict
@mibict 7 місяців тому
I'm tired of "women's rights advocates" defending the "women's rights" but at the same time trying to be men! If you want to advocate for women's rights (and I support that) - stay woman, don't try to became a man! Be what you are and then fight for your rights (if there are any you didn't won yet)!
@papadajnia268
@papadajnia268 9 місяців тому
Jordan 💪💪💪💪💪 man speaks truth 🙏🙏🙏
@kalena42004
@kalena42004 3 роки тому
She doesn't listen when others talk. She just keeps talking her script.
@mustang_hr
@mustang_hr 3 роки тому
It’s waste of time arguing with these people
@jesuschristislord7754
@jesuschristislord7754 3 роки тому
holepeople.exe
@04dave0
@04dave0 3 роки тому
There's two types of people in the world, those who listen and those who wait to talk
@farmrat69
@farmrat69 3 роки тому
yeah but equal .
@jculver1674
@jculver1674 3 роки тому
So you're saying...
@woodybenjam
@woodybenjam 4 роки тому
Women: "We want equal jobs" Men: "Loads of brick layers wanted" Women: "We don't want it that equal"
@rverro8478
@rverro8478 4 роки тому
The eye opening omission is the "end results". Just for sh*t and giggles, put men VS women brick layers. Let's see WHO will finish the job first. ALL business owners will choose the most efficient team. I'm not saying women can't do the job but...time is money.
@violentpursuit
@violentpursuit 4 роки тому
Right. I love how she has absolutely no answer to his stats on men's work
@Mongolium
@Mongolium 4 роки тому
*gets drafted into iraq*
@DrachonaTheWolf
@DrachonaTheWolf 4 роки тому
Oh yeah, it's incredibly transparent. I've never heard a single feminist argue that more women should go into waste management, powerline repair, mining, construction, etc. All the disgusting, hazard-pay jobs that most people are lucky to not have to do.
@nakclahan6445
@nakclahan6445 4 роки тому
Phillip Woody Shepherd I agree
@tianfromthebrickworld8487
@tianfromthebrickworld8487 9 місяців тому
We will never be the same!!!! We are both unique men and woman
@nuephy9956
@nuephy9956 Рік тому
Jordan is the best psychologist in the world 🌍
@silentwarrior6512
@silentwarrior6512 2 роки тому
"What is equality?" "Freedom". Me: this interview is finished.
@omarmuto
@omarmuto 2 роки тому
she just need to google equality and freedom . Even google cant mistake between the two. I dont know why i always smell stupidity with feminist. I mean i dont mind if they are here claiming what they claim; but when i come to try to analyse their ideas , i come to the conclusion that this is stupid
@thehammer9599
@thehammer9599 2 роки тому
Misappropriation of words is key to communism.
@vkak1
@vkak1 2 роки тому
Who does she even think she is to argue with a sociology professor? Man's fuckin got a PhD and years of research publications
@altvamp
@altvamp 2 роки тому
At this point I decided not to bother watching and wasting my time, as previously said, interview over, clearly not very intelligent, women have more freedom today than they ever had, they can do anything they want if they can make the effort, in fact they have more freedom than men, for example, how many guys can walk in a supermarket only wearing pants without some women complaining or being arrested, I even had some woman complaining because I wore sandals with no socks on the bus and she didn't like to see men's feet.
@altvamp
@altvamp 2 роки тому
@@thehammer9599 I think you made a discovery there that may be true.
@angeloscoleri
@angeloscoleri 4 роки тому
She can hear him but doesn't listen. She's in such a hurry to say what she practiced infront of the mirror, she doesn't take in anything anybody else is saying.
@dunklebaumwolle164
@dunklebaumwolle164 4 роки тому
It's better to hear a rather civil discussion between the two than to hear "So YoUr SaYiNg" every 0.1 seconds
@SKPonr
@SKPonr 4 роки тому
Some listen to acknowledge, some listen just to reply.
@johnnylt82
@johnnylt82 4 роки тому
I've yet to see a feminist who listens
@schn00te49
@schn00te49 4 роки тому
ukposts.info/have/v-deo/a4d-qbCfiI570I0.html that`s a very interesting TED talk and is exactly about your comment
@connortrahan4569
@connortrahan4569 4 роки тому
You can literally see her brain turn off as she looks away when Jordan starts laying down facts. Then she has the audacity to throw his rule number #9 at him. She didn't read to learn from the book, she read it to use against him.
@muhammadhashim9260
@muhammadhashim9260 7 місяців тому
Jordan Peterson satisfied every argument when he started.
@heatherpannell9873
@heatherpannell9873 Рік тому
The problem with this argument is their are valid points on each side. Jordan is correct in that we will not have equality of outcome. However we can have equality of opportunity AND equality of value. Women and men often have different styles of leadership both have positive and negative aspects that would benefit from collaboration.
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