Even the Ayran Brotherhood ! Thats literally like the KKK defending a black guy accused of raping a white woman.

Literally the WHITE SUPREMACIST GANG was like “Oof, that sucks. Good luck in here”. As a black person, if the people who look up to the Klan and Nazi’s think you’re innocent then you know the criminal justice system f***cked up.

That part just weighs on me so much. They saw his truth and innocence when he had been failed. I wonder if that gave him some strength to get through his pain and being in prison?

This! When a “professional racist” sees the truth and puts aside his hate to tell a man he believes his innocence you know the case was rigged. Shame! Dishonor! Dishonor on all their families! On all the people who had the power, the opportunity, to do the right thing and didn’t! In all the years! And especially the fool as an adult woman who can’t even give a proper apology to basically end up saying“I’m sorry I ruined your life, but more importantly MINE was ruined too and that’s not my fault sorry you were put in prison but I’m still gonna die on this hill berceuse I was a victim, I was a victim, I was and still am making myself a victim yes I acknowledge you were but that’s the government’s fault NOT MINE. I’m the good girl who did nothing wrong.” Ooooh then the fact we felt disgusting after hearing that hit about her father being a dick and asking questions…… makes me think he knew she was lying…. I absolutely do not approve of the “all I had to eat tonight was cock.” Her daddy knew his daughter and called her ass out and she didn’t like it. A lot to unpack and I’m getting carried away lol You know she didn’t give a penny to his go fund me.

and not only gang leaders, but neo-nazi white supremacist gang leaders! 😭

💯💯 true its horrible

It wasn't a false accusation. She was raped. It was the police and court's fault. She is a victim too.

It's a false accusation, the attack happened but it wasn't him who perpetuated the attack. ​@@michellemartinez4887

@@michellemartinez4887she falsely accused somebody who did not rape her, that is definitively a false accusation even if it isn’t the way you usually use the term

@@knee.co.8338 She was raped. There is evidence of that. The justice system caught the wrong person. That's not a false accusation.

I was thinking the same thing. If I were her, I'd write him a check. It also infuriates me that this happens over and over and over, yet they still don't do anything to the lawyers, judges, or police. If they're still working, they just quietly transfer to another dept or they retire with their full retirement or pension.

Agree 100%. Even all this would NEVER be enough compared to everything that he lost.

genuinely, don't know much about him but it just has me so pissed to think that young man can have 16 year of his life gone like that. He honestly deserves so much more being ridiculed by the court and so many others, and i don't even wanna think about the racism involved. To think something like that could've happened to my brother or father just makes my heart ache.

Not to mention all this money she’s going to make off of this movie from the book she wrote about him.

I hope you can heal from this

I’ll be the mum you haven’t told. I’ll tell you that it wasn’t your fault. That you did nothing wrong. That you most certainly did not ask for it and that you did not deserve it. I’ll also tell you that you can still be loved and find love and the act of an animal won’t take that away from you if it’s something you want to have in your life. Don’t let this event steal your future, life, happiness and well-being. Let it make you stronger. Let it make you aware of your courage, resilience, determination. You are loved, you are beautiful, you deserve peace and happiness. Love and light from Australia 💕

❤️‍🩹

You deserve even MORE love after going through such a horrible thing..

I've never reported mine.

yeah her parents seem fucked up.

Her dad saying that she "let him rape her" was crazy. Her family gives me weird vibes especially her dad.

Especially her father... he was like: no knife, no rape! Seriously? Men are stronger, also there is the shock amd trauma of being attacked, but according to him, she should have been able to fight her attacker off, because he had no knife?

@@priscilla8068 I guess he felt that something was off with her story but he didn’t know what or he is just an a*hole.

@@Agnieszka-sf5kw this is depressingly common. People think being raped means having a knife or gun held at you through the whole thing when really, the threat of a body much stronger and faster than you is usually enough to immobilize and you start thinking of how to get out alive. You’ll do anything just to get out alive.

She can't win back public's approval no matter what. If she made that apology public, people will say its too performative.

@@NobodyUndefined no matter if the public thinks it is a stunt or not, she does owe it to Anthony to make it public. She was going to cash in on Lucky and even writing that, she didnt pause to think of how wrong everything was regarding the trial.

Fact!

True, if I read that as a foreword or something in one of her books instead of an obscure article that won't even come up on a Google search, I would have felt she truly felt sorry and learnt something from that experience. She seems too vindictive towards her assaulter to the point it seems to have consumed her and makes you feel weird from what I have heard she has written. She even seems a bit racist at this point.

@@NobodyUndefined Yup, I was not implying you were saying she shouldn't do it. I was just making a point that she should. She has reaped the benefits of going public $$$ and fame so she does owe it to Anthony to be publicly supporting him and behind him. I think that is what is right

The fact that she did nothing to try and make it up to him. She’s a gross person.

He should get every dime she made on Lucky.

I said the same thing in another comment. She should have at the very least given him a percent from the profit from that book considering she would have had no career without it. That and how she’s handled her apology not even had the decency to meet him…I doubt she’s as sorry for her actions as she says.

It was a $5.5M settlement

@@neshiajae2580 Yes but he has legal fees, etc, afterwards he will end up with approx. 3m.

Damn 🙄 Right

Man I didn’t even think of that 😮.

He's probably gotten away with it. so many other times too now

@@marykay8587 he prob has a happy family, wife and kids that have no idea how horrible of a person he is

Well, if there was an actual r4pist in this story at all... Was there actual proof of her being r4ped at all? I know what's been told in this video, but it's just what she tells in her debut novel, her fantasized memoir. Given the circumstances, I wouldn't be surprised if it was found out that she made it up for some twisted reason.

Thiss!!!

I'm not surprised. This country doesn't give two fucks about its vets. It breaks them down, gets them to do some questionable things, and destroys their normal functioning capabilities. Pisses me off.

How do U know he served ? Just because you’re in the military does not mean you served stupid

Okay so

@@AutumnSwift2 so he went and fought for these people and that is how they repaid him

God I am so sorry for what you went through, that's awful.

@@Sh-world123 thank you. It's okay. Jesus was with me and still is my refuge forever ✝️🛐

@@loriwoolf5447 I'm happy to hear you found your comfort. May god bless you. I send you the best wishes I can 💜

@@Sh-world123 thank you. May God bless you too 🙏✝️🛐💜💜💜

I'm so sorry for you. I hope you feel better.

Why together? 😂😂😂😂

This does not count for just black men. This happen just as much with white men but then it doesn´t matter apperianrly XD America just have this weird system where Juries decide who is going to send to prison.

@@jerometruitt2731because they’re married….

Idk,,my nephew was wrongfully incarcerated for 21 years,from the time he was 22 til he was 43, before he was exonerated. The prime of his life. And he's white🤷‍♀️ My sister lost everything,even lost her home and ended up briefly homeless trying to pay all the legal fees to prove his innocence. I think the attempt by society to point out racial division is CAUSING racial division 😔

@@jerometruitt2731 why do you think

She was able to take the shambles of her life & build an empire afterwards. He was left isolated living in a house with no windows. She might not have gotten “justice” but she got a second chance. She needs to give him some of the money she made selling the story of his grief.

No , not 16 years , his whole life from then on

@@syw9882 He already got 5.5m and will get more from his lawsuit. Money will not do anything to fix the issue. She could rebuild her life, but that isn't on her. This all falls in the DA and police department.

The dude was 16 years in prison as innocent, lost family members and friends for the stigma, couldn't make kids for the stigma and make new friends or be close to females/kids for the stigma. Being labeled a convict and s-offender Super screws your life up in every possible way even after getting out. Let's not forget he could have been eeasily murdered if the gangs didn't beleave him or he wasn't smart enough to do the bold move and ask for the shot-callers to immidiatelly read his papers (if not murdered then at very least being tortured for the whole time)... I'm 100% sympathetic to what happened to her... but she did Purposfully send a man who she Knew was innocent into a prison with this charge. On a basis that a cop said to her in consoling way that yeah prosecution uses this tactic (obviously Sometimes), it's not like the cop can now it was used, hence she cannot. So, yeah. Something unforgivable happened to her and She Did something unforgivable. What she did was played Heavily on peoples lives and got it messed up, ruined someones life from top to bottom. That cannot just be brushed off by what happened to her and the cop saying that this kinda tactics are used and they propably did towards you (you cannot equal what the cop said as this For Sure happened because she cannot know, especially when the men do not Even look alike. Furthermore, even if she tought it went down like it was planned.. she Still sent an innocent man to prison knowingly. Say even the prosecution would have taken a random guy ("a friend") and put 500 dollars into the pocket and say that hey can you just come to the line-up, smile and that's it and they are like.. o-o-okey? Then he goes to prison. You don't go hard with someone you know is innocent and don't know any of the circumstances, especially with those charges. Her by own words calculated demeanor/behaviour in court, that was the thing that tipped the scale from facts to conviction. She should have just testified that she thinks she messed up the line-up. She did something atleast as bad as was done to her, that's just the truth of it).

@@aleksisuuronen5969 Where on earth did you get that she knowingly sent the wrong man to jail from????

not even cousins fr they’re both just short

They might've both just looked like him to her because she was having a PTSD episode, from the description. My partner used to randomly look like my attacker to me for a moment sometimes and they aren't even the same size or ethnicity. In any situation where the cops weren't completely evil, that would have been the end of it but they lied and, imo, gaslit her into confusing what's just the PTSD fucking with her head and what's real. I'm sure closing this case looked real good on somebody's fuckin performance review or whatever. Assholes. 😒

Exactly

right?? theyre literally just short black dudes they look nothing alike

@@claratheparasytepeak wps…the audacity of the toxic privilege of her actions in the aftermath of the horrific act perpetrated against Alice is nearly inconceivable.

She should be in jail for 16 yrs because she won't admit something that's ACTUALLY true!

This is gross in my opinion, she clearly thought what she was doing was right, was manipulated by police, & too traumatized to think straight, & it was a brutal rape that ripped open her lady parts, torture Stephanie said, & now so many people hate her & her rapist is free, i feel so much sympathy for Anthony but to have none for her is a bit heartless.

What’s she supposed to “make right” when she isn’t the one who did anything wrong? It’s not HER fault that the system is corrupt, so why is she somehow personally responsible for it?

@@professionalinsomniac8338because she knew she chose the wrong guy then willingly and knowingly wrote a book about his wrongful conviction. Thats just flat out not okay. She easily could’ve I dunno proposed a retrial on his behalf and not made a bunch of money off someone who was innocent. It’s just wrong, someone can be a victim and be wrong, two things can be true at once.

@@lilweedsea except she didn’t and she’s allowed to write about her own life and experiences. And seriously? Getting him a retrial isn’t her responsibility, and I’m not denying someone can be both a perp and a victim, I’m flat out saying you’re wrong and she didn’t do anything to victimize him. You won’t convince me otherwise so trying is futile.

​@@professionalinsomniac8338wtf

@@professionalinsomniac8338 she knowingly ruined an innocent man’s life. No amount of trauma or life experiences excuses that in any way shape or form. Her trauma is no less nor greater than his. And since she was ultimately responsible for calling him the perp while knowing he truly wasn’t she is responsible for giving him an honest and public apology as well as appropriate compensation just as the justice system gave him that for their part in the whole mess. She may not be fully responsible for everything that happened, but she played a massive part in it and should be held accountable in full. Being a victim doesn’t make you untouchable for accountability.

That wasn’t after the false conviction was revealed, that was after she wrote her book. At that point she believed and had believed for 20 years that he was her rapist.

⁠@@lailahart7501I’m sorry but I don’t fully believe that she truly believed that Anthony was her attacker. White women have been known to knowingly lie on black men. Emmitt Till comes to mind. Growing up, I was always told to stay away from white girls cause they’ll get u in trouble and ruin your life

@@lailahart7501she literally knew that she pointed at the wrong guy WAYY before the trial, you’re still telling me she didn’t know? She knew. She played along.

Thinking isn’t your strong suit is it?

I left basically the exact same comment as you I’m so confused about that part too.

Anthony should also sue the police department separately. Wonder why his lawyers didn’t do that. The DA/State for the wrongful conviction but the police f’ed up the initial investigation that was handed to the DA, so shouldn’t they have to pay for their part in this?

You can’t even buy a home in NYC for 3 million

@@ruquiamulamba6169yes u can lol

@@ruquiamulamba6169 The average NYC home value is $732,594

There is a federal civil rights lawsuit still working through the court system that has named the cops and attorneys involved (along with Sebold) as defendants(?)(respondents?). This is separate from the lawsuit for the wrongful imprisonment (which is the one that settled for $5.5m the Stephanie mentions at the end of the video); this one has more to do with how they came about that wrongful imprisonment (lies told to sway Sebold into false identification, the trial judge holding private meeting with Sebold in his chambers, etc.) and how any, for example, discrimination (like racial discrimination) and inappropriate procedures may have violated his very civil rights. Anyway, the attorney who lied to her during the lineup just got a request to grant immunity from the lawsuit denied by a federal judge 3 days ago, so it is very much still an active lawsuit assuming to gain him a greater settlement. And given the 16yrs lost to prison and another 22yrs post-release shackled horrendously to the sex offenders registry for a crime he didn't commit, yeah, it's fair to say he deserves a bigger settlement and that the named parties deserved to be sued and held liable for the BS they propagated against an innocent person.

what???? I don’t get how her making her story public is in any way wrong?

@@icecreamsandwich652 i think they meant to say that there's nothing wrong with the story, but the fact that her story was so public, and caused her to make thousands of dollars, also happened to be his story as a victim. and the fact that she didn't apologize as proudly and publicly as she did her book about (who she assumed was her assau!ter), is pretty upsetting that she wouldn't make a more public apology towards him for creating a victim. it's seriously such a sad story that seemingly feels like no one really received justice in the end.

in a way though, the attacker really created them both.

No she didn’t and no she doesn’t. It’s not like she went out of her way to purposely villainize and target him, so why should she apologize? The system did him wrong, not her.

@@professionalinsomniac8338yep who cares what happens to a black otherwise business as usual in America. Screw Alice she can kick rocks

I agree wholeheartedly!! 💔

Right because there are a lot of people who don’t follow their gut feeling they tends to ignore it

Right and the story realy seems so fake i mean the part of the black student hugging and apologizing completely weird

I feel horrible for her …but how did she live with herself knowing she took the stand against a man she knew was the wrong person??😢

@@heavenjb I get that some say she was traumatizes and maybe her memory was hazy but still after she found out that the man she put behind bars was innocent and didn’t apologize (to me that wasn’t a apology she did whatever)

The fact he made so much money off that film and then blew it up anyway. Respect

That’s exactly what I was thinking

They're black, every black person looks the same, right?

i guess to whites black ppl all look the same

It’s not different than when racists will say that all White blonde women look alike - which I have often heard

@@DorianMoth-rr2zb why are you trying to change the topic to what white women deal with when we are talking about someone’s else’s pain…

Is it really selfish to want your assaulter to be in prison so he could not harm you or anyone else? I mean she didn't purposely pick the wrong guy just to seek revenge on anyone

​@@vivi-ws9yl Should an innocent man go to jail because a man who looked similar to him committed a crime?. Through her authorship, she expressed her doubt from the beginning and her rhetoric spoke volumes. The accused deserved a more thorough investigation than that which was done. She could have at least requested that before pointing a definitive finger at an innocent man.

​@@vivi-ws9ylit was very selfish actually

Have you heard of Dane Calloway? Hes sharing about true American history and slavery being different than what we were indoctrinated with

@@crazyjloop89slavery= someone owns you. Your life isn’t yours. Someone else can do whatever they want to you. NOTHING can change that definition. Please stop

stg like what do u mean ‘almost identical’ 💀

@@vivicheri444fr huge example of racial bias smh. I had to pause n stare I was like identical where???

Are the twins in the room with us? Cause what 🙄🧐

I was looking for this comment because wtf

Thats what I was saying after seeing their pictures lmao

!!!!!!!

You may as well wait for the sun to burn out. She goes on with her life, r-word not withstanding, relatively happy, and he goes on with his life, suffering in blackness, but 5mil richer. 🤷

She didn't go after him to try and ruin his life for no reason though, she was convinced it was him and it was up to professionals in the field like police and judges to figure out what is real and what is not. These things are not up to victims, that are living in fear and are totally traumatized, this is up to the justice system for utterly failing to do a proper investigation and run a proper trial, neither have been done. I don't think you understand how being raped can warp your whole world/vision if you say she has to pay him anything back. There was no malicious intend, only utter fear and deep trauma that wasn't handled properly by a justice system that should be able to discern trauma memories from reality. Probably because a case with a conviction looks a lot better than a case where there isn't even a proper suspect. Meanwhile Alice also has to live with this and the fact that the real rapist has never been caught. Blaming her for this misconduct is utterly delusional.

I agree with you until the last sentence, she does not need to pay him back. Both are victims and I don’t believe she did it with intent. The most blame is on the justice system. Of course she does have her role in it. It makes me really sad that he never got to have kids or a career or basically any freedom, the first signs of freedom since his false conviction is after this. I wished the state and the justice system gave him more back, more money, a house a chance at maby going to college for free, or whatever he wishes to do in his lif that he did not get to do.

I’m not even sure Anthony would accept money from Alice, but I can’t help but feel like if I were her I would feel a sense of indebtedness to Anthony for all the life that was stolen from him. Even though she may not have been responsible for putting behind bars, she definitely profited off of it.

Who is the 90%?😭

This is a life lesson I learned a long time ago and people still don't understand it.

Weirdo behavior to call her a “perpetrator” for misidentifying someone as if she somehow did something way worse like R word someone else. 🙄

@@professionalinsomniac8338Yet that's what happened she basically allowed a bigger crime to happen because of her actions.

​@@ExeErdna Her actions? Rape is a traumatic experience. She identified a suspect, it's up to the police and justice system to confirm if he is the perpetrator or not. She did not sent him to prison, the judge did. Both of them are the victims in this mess and it's honestly disgusting what you people are doing.

@@ExeErdna in what way is misidentification a bigger crime than r*pe? Are you straight up delusional?

He wasn't free even after getting out of jail, the stigma followed him for an extra 20+ years. He had to struggle into his 60s because his life was robbed.

It would have to be a living nightmare!

If he had a child he would've missed them growing up..

@@uniquenewyork3325 Not only that, this is what took away his opportunity to ever have children in the first place. There's a high chance that there are actual people that would have existed, but don't because of what happened.

Correction* he was robbed of the opportunity to have children

Not to mention it’s almost a guarantee that he did it again, so the best we can hope for is that he was convicted for another offense later on

@@siennahartle9069right. I’m guessing he did her roommate & probably the other 18 year old that Anthony was questioned about while he was out on parole.

Saw on X that the private investigator found the real rapist and gave his proofs to the police department. The lack of guilt from everyone involved in this just disgust me. But who would step up and say I made a mistake when I totally profited and most likely still profit from it. For 40 years, all that Anthony wanted was someone who would say they were mistaken. That it wasn’t him but no one ever did.

3 people as it was most likely the actual rapist is the one that assaulted Lila as well

most frustrating the wrong person was imprisoned

I didn’t read the book. Damn I tried. Glad I didn’t now. 😅😅😅

Nope. She doesn’t need to apologize at all. What’s with all these complaints about how it isn’t good enough when it wasn’t even necessary? And why isn’t anyone hounding the attorneys, judges, and cops for apologies instead of the person who had the least control over how things played out? Get a grip man.

Maybe, she tried to keep telling her. Maybe they didn't care, they just wanted to conviction despite justice. I really think it sucks that the court system failed him. That she wanted revenge rather than justice. I do think maybe she tried and didn't know how to help him, or how to go about the right thing.

​@@user-on2lw7ip5bif she tried she would have said that. She never tried.

Spit your shit my guy

​@jerometruitt2731 Thank you!! How can someone just make up "I think she tried to help? " Just pulling that out of thin air.

@@user-on2lw7ip5bshe should’ve said that then💀

This story is heartbreaking and incredibly disappointing

And refuses to meet an innocent man. This shows she is a racist to me.

Comments indicate that people see her as being just as much of a victim as Anthony. While I will never condone SA, the fact that she refuses to see or truly apologize to Anthony takes away from her victimization as she was complicit in the victimization of an innocent man with no thought or real regret.

Exactly she got to get rich and live happily while he was beat, hated and shunned.​@rbailey3309

The first sentence of her statement said sorry. I see this as a difference of opinion on how sorry she should be. I think she took ownership at the level needed. I don't agree that she overstated her feelings. I do see her as a victim, just as much as Anthony. She was a teenager. She was lied and manipulated by the DA. The level of unprofessionalism of the investigation and of the court system in this case was profound. I could see them convicting him without her testimony. I don't believe she honestly played as big a part as everyone would like to believe. Maybe I just consume too much true crime and have a bias against our LEGAL (not justice) system.

I need to be able to pick his brain or have someone similar in my world to keep calm and stay true to me despite the very sick shit and situations my whole life but I struggle lately to not lose my hold on me or my heart and mind and about to snap or give up

Holding on to that hate will eat at him and no one else.

He is such a good man!

@@brizduniak79 Many times I’ve seen innocent black people forgive white accusers and even victims of hate crimes forgive white attackers. Most recent was Botham Jean’s family forgiving Amber Geiger. The reverse is rarely depicted in media. I’m convinced lawyers and judges encourage black people to forgive their white offenders.

@@majorlazor5058no, most black people are believers in GOD or some sort of higher power that's why they forgive

um okay...

Well, but we wouldn't want your life ended for it. You didn't do it on purpose, and there was plenty of fault in others.

She didn’t though, they did.

The fact that she went through the case filed at 39 years old, realized it wasn't him and how corrupt it all was but just went about her life is crazy! She has to live with herself. But in the end the fact that she ignored it and went ahead to write the book led to his exoneration... no credit to her.

@@laylo5999 you’re giving her a lot of responsibility over his life when she’s one woman who had little to no control over his fate, and then making a lot of assumptions. I didn’t hear anything that suggests she knew anything was off, and she’s not a lawyer or forensics person, so again, lot of assumptions when some of the first people to notice any discrepancies WERE stated to be professionals of some kind.

Good for him! I hope he gets the rights he deserves, he has been through too much. My heart breaks for the poor man :(

Sad to say that the same type of declination still exist in 2024. Judges and DAs have way too much power. People always demand for a citizens review board for the police. I think we should have a review board for iubg

He should be awarded 16 times the amount of Alice’s current net worth

About freaking time

​@@alerojas4938and she n those prosecutors should pay it

her book was soo bad it ended up being good

It was the Actor Anthony who kept nagging him to investigate.

It made me cry too!

Thank you for the follow-up. I kept thinking that I'd missed the explanation. I wonder if there was a SA kit done for Lila. If it was actually the same person, maybe he could be found that way.

Wow, how much more proof did they need?! Who knows how many more victims there are😢

Thank you. I was, indeed, wondering what happened to Lila. I had to go back to the beginning of the video to see if I had missed something.

@@littlemisslipstick2999 there may have been- but it wouldn’t have made a difference unfortunately. From my brief research(cause I was curious to see if they still had the hair and wondering why they didn’t DNA test it) it said that the rape kit and samples(didn’t specify but im assuming the samples would mean the fluids that they took as well as the hair) were destroyed before proper DNA testing was available. Who knows what they mean by destroyed or WHY they were- but I think we all could guess why😓.

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agree, he was shunned by society for rape conviction and probably couldnt find work!

@@careful1348 the house he had to live in. I can't even imagine that struggle

@@barbiietajanai6460I think Shaun King provided him a house 🏡

Nobody really care bout stuff like this because topic too sensitive sad…

Don't think you stay on the sex offenders list when you're exonerated.

I loved it too!

She didn’t make a mistake. She stood by her choice.

Her mistake wasn’t “small” either. Any action that could alter the course of someone’s life is not small. She made a MONUMENTAL mistake.

@@JustPraiseHim09 You’re definitely right in that it was life altering, but we can’t keep calling it a mistake. She knew that man was innocent and still refused to apologise outright even after she was caught.

Can't believe you called what that woman did "a small mistake". Her 1st book was published a year after the man had already been released!

This is why generally speaking the police needs more then just the victim recognizing someone. In fact often nowadays when you are raped you can not even get someone in prison in my country unless you have DNA to proof it, but even then you have to proof it wasn´t consenial, so I don´t understand how that guy could get in prison innocent if that was done, so maybe the police or whoever got him in prison didn´t do enough job and the juries are to blame for that as well

100%

🙄🙄🙄😒

No fr I was looking between the men trying to figure out who looked similar to who cuz they all look so different

Wasn’t Anthony number five?

@@salty_4275I don’t remember I gotta look again but the point was she didn’t care she just picked whoever and NONE of the guys in the line resembled each other

If it was the same attacker he must have been stalking her to some extent.

He had her dorm card

Stephanie said at the beginning of her video that her friend and roommate was angry at Alice because the rapist mentioned her name and raped her in Alice's bed which might mean that Alice was the rapist's target and her friend was a substitute for Alice. This also indicates that the rapist was stalking Alice and might have fixated on her because she was a virgin because it is rare for a rapist to attack the same woman twice.

I might be wrong but what if Alice was in on it ? I mean he wanted to do it in Alice's bed he had the key card and he came back again ? Something isn't right

@@marydt8981 No. No victim would give up something valuable as a dorm key. My ex stole my dorm key and I thought I misplaced it. On the same day I got mine replaced, he was sitting in my room on my bed AFTER I moved across campus to get away from hims I never told anyone where I was or what room I was in. I got away because the campus police didn’t believe me he was stalking me. I end up dropping out of college because of him. Just because the attacker had the card, didn’t mean she gave it to him. Don’t try to start that.

He didn’t have an alibi. That being said it’s interesting how everyone seems to conclude that he was innocent after looking at his file. Everyone but the criminal justice system.

​@@dandereninja4750the criminal justice system tends to want to find a guy to blame when they don't have an actual person of interest, let alone a suspect. They also tend to not bring in relevant evidence when it clearly breaks apart their case.

I think this is the most upsetting thing at how the whole justice system failed him. That if the case had been thrown out when she picked the wrong guy. If his attorney had gotten all the information he needed. Why didn’t any one notice when he was up for parole? Why were there not black people on the jury when it’s supposed to be a group of peers? The cop lady lied to Alice and said the guy she picked was Anthony’s friend and the Judge had a private meeting with her and asked about her family which is misuse of their position. I don’t think Alice saw anything wrong with it though because they some of the few people who weren’t victim blaming her so she thought of them as kind and just doing their best to seek justice for her. When they were actually misusing their position and creating the narrative to get the fastest conviction to fill a quota. I just hope that those people were all fired and put on trial for misconduct.

@@JuniperTaleumOne messed up thing about the justice system is that you need NEW evidence to declare a person innocent. Technology can advance enough to prove the original evidence was bad, but if you don’t add new evidence like a dna test you can’t appeal.

Right how was it the victims responsibility to find the rapist? Its sick what people in law will do to just look like 'heros'

The only thing I might keep in mind is I'm not sure if that person would want to see me if I were in that situation, so I wouldn't try to force it just to make myself feel better and clear my own conscience. However, if they said they wanted to meet with me that's a different story.

You would, but she didn't because (to her) that would maker her less of a victim, something that not only feels unjust, but also, it would destroy her whole identity, success... she seems to have built it around this incident, having survived it, she wrote a book and it got picked into a movie... Also, she probably feels like opening the door towards admitting ANY wrongdoing would lead to her being questioned if the rape even happened (i mean her father kind of alluded that she kind of wanted it). Which ofc doesn't make her not apologizing even 1 iota acceptable, because she's not thinking about the unjustice the man suffered for 16 years

This and give him all the money made from the book. So he could at least feel the validation that his accuser believes it is not him thats the monster she wrote about. The money bc it exploited his situation and so he can spend the rest of his life comfortably with his lovely wife. No more night shifts for them.

Huge embarrassment and shame.. like it takes a lot of humility. She might not have that ??

people don't have to meet for 'your' closure. if that's what would help you to do then you can do that. but yeah some monetary reparation from the book's proceeds would actually help.

Indeed. 😢 poor guy.

Does she get punished for her wrong doing? I'm just starting this video and I know I'll be disappointed when she doesn't receive any repercussions. False accusations need to be taken seriously too, she took his life for 16years, that's so heinous.

@@Megabot-bo9ve Would this qualify as "false accusation" sounds like the crime was committed, but the wrong person was convicted.

White women's tears are deadly. We see it all the time---ranging from crying to avoid accountability or to turn another person (probably Black) into the aggressor. 16 years...there is no justice that can reconcile that. And the white women who weaponize their tears face no consequences.

@@Megabot-bo9ve Why would she be punished for the mistake, this falls more on the state for their racial bias and lack of thorough investigation.

I think at 18 it was coercion from the police. It's genuinely hard to say what to think about 39 y.o Alice however

​@@zoe_dawgfrom her book, she is no more mature than a 18 years old. In fact she is no different from suzie, it's very sad for the both of them

Believe it or not, this is something that’s happened a lot throughout history.. so many black men and women young black boys, killed or incarcerated for crimes they didn’t commit.. especially gRape of yt females:. Rose wood a town, white woman was having an affair, her white lover beat her assshh so she tells her hubby a black man did it.. SOOOOOOOO MANY BLACK MEN AND BOYS WERE KILLED!!!! Killed for something they had nothing to do with.. despicable..

​@@mamewedjisylla7991 She was stunted from the r@pe.

Nothing new it’s been happening in the USA for hundreds of years that’s the sad part. Thousands if not close to millions of black men have been treated unjustly and murdered and babies fed to crocodiles 🐊 down south. And Slave masters did not pay for what they have done. They stole black Wall Street in Chicago each town black men built white racists 🔥 burnt down sad and the schools want to erase black history and act as if none of this happened, and they wonder why the former generation is soo fucked up while the current children of past slave owners that stole their wealth and enjoy the fruits 🍉 of others labor.

calm down

​@@ffffff41what's up with you...

I feel for you on that one.

As a man in America I feel you, can't even feel comfortable around my daughters classmates. People look at you like you're bound to rape or murder everyone at any moment. I don't like feeling like people think I'm . I would never hurt anyone unless it was in self defense or to protect someone. I feel like as a straight white male I am disgusting to people just for existing.

It didn't seem to me like she personally feels "bad victims" have less value so much as she was pointing out that that's how the system treats them, which is 100% true. If she had been a nonvirgin assaulted on her way from a bar I can promise you that old white man would not have been crying over her testimony.

That's why prostitutes and strippers get raped, so often. They figure you're already in the sex industry, so how can you say I raped you? You're doing your job". I swear there are some horrible dudes out there.

Probably because she feels like she needs to prove something to her dad because he has a messed up mindset that she internalized. I think we need to be more tolerant and understand of that. For example "No knife. No rape." Remember she came from a messed up family with messed up viewpoints and that probably influenced her outlook on life. Yet that doesn't negate what you said earlier.

I agree. I know how everyone looks at "bad girls" for example addicts and prostitutes, and how many people dont care when theyre murdered. It bothers me bc i used to be both of those things but have gotten sober. Now i would consider myself good in everything i do i dont lie, cheat, steal even litter. I help others as a cna about to be a nurse. I say this bc people are so quick to judge but just bc a person lives a bad lifestyle doesnt mean theyre a bad person. They are suffering. Thank you for saying this

It's because society used to say bad girls ask for it back then. She is probably making it clear it doesn't matter good or bad.. this happens.

absolutely. a fragile ray of hope

absolutely, a much needed ray of hope in a dark life

I love what you said about her. I completely agree with you.

@@truecrimeforlife and now I’m subscribing to you as well.

@@leetv8425 Awe, thank you! I would love your honest feedback too please! I know I have room to grow and improve!

Wrong convictions happen all the time, which is why we should abolish the death sentence. Many black people are wrongfully convicted because... and this is embarrassing... perpetrators and victims cannot tell one from another. It's as if a victim or witnesses identified a white person as a perpetrator and police arrested the first "suspicious looking white person" they came across. And few people can imagine that.

Crazy

What's your proof it happened because he's black? Innocent white people get convicted of crimes as well. Every time something happens to black people, it's "racism" even though it happens to all other colors. Im so over this brainwashed response to everything, EVERYTHING that happens to black people.

Same thing happens to white people. Kinda a thing that people that believe they suffer from racism do, they are wronged, legitimately wronged and assume it’s because of ethnicity

He was very naive indeed … I’d think at least not nowadays no black or any other minority would trust their own the judgement of the court system … that only works for the rich and powerful/ well connected people

I could never understand why this book was so popular. The ending is horrible.

I remember watching the movie long time ago, I remember the bad feeling that I got from that movie, it's feels 'unrest', and it's like trying to justify something that I don't agree with, pushing the idea of blaming 'God', but no character in that story took accountability of their action. Just self pity. Anger. Hatred. Glorified and romanticing victimhood. Maybe it got popular because it said it based on 'true story' or something like that.

ohmygod that sounds horrible

It’s Lucky that I couldn’t read past the third chapter. I still can’t put my finger to what threw me off.

100%. It is wacky.

I have a question. Don’t Black people in general believe in collective and generational punishment for White people for things that happened 400 years ago (slavery)? Why don’t you apply those same ideas of collective punishment to yourself? So if one Black man commits rape, then by your own logic doesn’t it make all Black men guilty of rape?

SO EFFING REAL BRO

FRR

He could have, but the cost of falsely admitting to being a horrific violent sex offender wouldn’t be worth it. I understand that. Being on the outside and allowing everyone to think you are the rapist…that’s no way for an innocent man to live. I would be more terrified of that reality than of staying in prison and maintaining my innocence.

@@Blueell yes i definitely agree with you! I would like to think I’d do the same but many times people also confess to things they didn’t do to get a lighter sentence. I’m glad he has survived this ordeal with a clean conscience and still has the strength to love and to work, even had generous wishes and comments towards Alice Sebold

fr I would be torn up over that, I don't know how she doesn't feel like she owes him an apology at the very least. it's possibly bc shes racist

We don't know what Alice Sebold truly believes that this man really r*ped her. Since she was unsure of the time of the assault. Unfortunately this kind of thing happens.

@@Sputterbugz Yeah, it really doesn't sit right with me. I understand she was SAed, but she made millions off of it and he was wrongfully committed to 16 years in prison and 20+ years of world ostracizing. At the very least you could apologize.

What’s even worse, her friend was r* *after* he was already in jail! Remember that he asked her friend where she is and that he had her keycard…

True. Hope she rots in hell for what she did

Damn 🙄 Right.

i agree, Also the fact she made millions just doesnt seem right, Sylvestor Stalone copied the life story of an Irish boxer( the last white hope they named him) for Rocky in the first movies and he didnt pay the guy a penny! always thought that unfair

That is post trauma, after a stressful encounter with this short Italian guy, for a while I at times thought I was seeing him in public and I would freeze, often the person turned out not to look very much like him up close. This was a white guy so I'm sure it can happen back when there were less people of color in media and white people have more trouble differentiating

​​@@careful1348 but this is her story, if someone does their own story they don't have to go back and contact everyone and also pay them, that wasn't Sylvester story

she was r worded what do you expect? stop victim blaming!

yeah and doing a double sentence because he would not show remorse as innocent !

agreed

Agreed, but would add that at least half of the proceeds should go to him, including residuals from the film! I read that book and then saw the movie. Now I’m left with a bitter taste in my mouth and won’t watch or promote it to anyone else. That guy should have life long monthly payouts, and after he passes they should continue to pay his children for as many years as he was locked up.

@@emmaburgessdean2355 Agreed

@@emmaburgessdean2355 thing is that he apparently never had any children due to this. At least that is what was said in the video. He didn't want to make a child have to grow up with a stigma of having a father who is in the s. offender-registry. :/

Yes, that's a very good idea, but I still believe it's not her fault. Eye witness testimony is proven unreliable over and over, and the police, DA, and prosecution should have done their job INVESTIGATING. All she did was believe she recognized her attacker. I feel so sorry for both of them, and for each and every innocent inmate, found guilty of crimes they didn't committ.

That is infuriating.

I suspect they are a tiny minority. Although it’s true they do exist- there was a judge in I wanna say Connecticut (?) recently who on the day of a man’s sentencing for the rape of a 16 year old girl, instead VACATED HIS CONVICTION AND SENT HIM HOME, saying “he’s been punished enough. This is what happens when you let coed youngsters get together and sit around in their undergarments.” (This f****** maniac actually used the word “undergarments”, Iike it was the 1950s. Essentially blaming HER for her own rape. Well, suffice it to say the child victim ran out of the courtroom sobbing and the girls father (bless his goddamn heart) was relentless and after a year or so he managed to persuade the state board to strip him of his robes and he can never be a judge again. THANK THE LORD. So my ultimate point is, although this sort of wild victim blaming does happen, I think it’s the exception to the rule.

Nah, he is a victim of her.

yeah.. but she's a victim with money and he's a victim with nothing..

Finally, someone with good sense

@@onieyashaNo, I'm sorry, money doesn't heal anything. This year is the 30th anniversary of my SA and no amount of riches will give me back the person I was before. There are two victims here and both deserved better.

Sure Alice was wrong for some things..but the justice system is the true failure here. They wanted Anthony to hang for this whether it was him or not. The cop going after the 3 black men who were not doing anything while he was driving around with Alice looking for Anthony says it all. Anthony went to prison for the crime of existing as a black man..plain and simple..and disgusting.

Damn Truth 😅

Damn. I hadn't even thought of that.

Frr

I can't believe you were held up at gun point! I feel for you.

As steph said, two things can be true at the same time. She can be both an assault victim and a horrible person

she wont accept the fact the she's not the only victim in her own story.

Another thing I found quite unsettling was that in her statement, she put the blame and focus rather heavily on the justice system and other people rather than mentioning the mistakes she had made herself as well.

@@phython124calling her a horrible person for that is crazy..

@@hihiz432yes she’s a horrible person for knowing she chose the wrong man in a line up, literally writing about it and making a boatload of money off it. Then not even having the shame to meet the wrongly convicted man who spent 16 years in prison for a crime he didn’t commit, and who also basically lived in poverty because he couldn’t find a decent job as a registered sex offender. Everything is about her and her suffering.

Thats whay im saying! I hope his movie is made!!

My thought, exactly!

Exactly!!! Why keep profiting over his tragedy? Maybe she thinks because she gave him another name in the book but hello, everyone knows who was sentenced for it?!?

dudes maybe when her ability to read and write comes back she can act on it, her brain is putting itself back together rn

Exactly!!! But that would never happen ..

Why would she blame herself for what they did? Why are you disgusted with her when she did nothing wrong?

​@@professionalinsomniac8338this!!! She did all what could be expected and more. Victim blaming is not OK. The DA and police should have done their job. It is not the victims job to look out for the suspects.

​@@professionalinsomniac8338"Didn't do nuffin" isn't an argument idiot.

@@GoldenXBoots Exactly.

I didn't like that either.

She didn’t try and give him money!

I believe sale of books themselves were placed on a halt and for a potiental rewrite or revise, so possible that she might write a new version of it and give the money made from that version to him but that's just speculation. I do think she should've given at least a portion of the money she made off of sales, but considering the stated revision that may come, I think it's still possible. Still kinda shit to delay it, though

@@raumarsene9910 ya, i feel like if she does it’ll be out of peer pressure/ to save face, cuz if was out of like pure intention/ guilt I feel like she would’ve given him portions of the initial book rather than waiting for profit from the revised book. But these r just my speculations as well 🤷🏽‍♀️

#believeallwomen

@@dashlivingston5975yes but in this case the woman was wrong and led to a man’s wrongful conviction

@@dashlivingston5975idk if you being sarcastic but this is not the time

@@pluspens2134that doesn’t mean u shouldn’t believe the victim she was a victim and so was he he should have never went to jail there was no proof but that dont mean everybody is a liar

@@dashlivingston5975stop trying to stir something. Really not the time or place to. This situation should not discredit other female victims.

Welcome to being Black in America.

i want that teacher to experience the things in that poem.

It seems you missed the part where the police completely ignored a lot of what she said? And lead her into saying things she didn't want to. Even after she called back after just agreeing to get out of there, then she tells them what she actually wanted to say and they just ignored it. Anthony, I understand not wanting to admit guilt...but if someone tells me I can get paroled after 2 years vs doing a full 16 I'm easily taking that deal. I can exonerate myself far easier from outside a jail cell. This entire story is bizarre from top to bottom, and filled with stupid people in my opinion.

true

@@kltil5082 I made the first part of my comment half way through and the second part after the video- I didn’t miss any part of it, I understand that the corrupt law enforcement is the reason behind Anthonys wrongful incarceration. It’s also crazy his family and friends just didn’t show up to the trial- having family in the court room is always a good idea regardless of guilt. And I’m equal parts devastated and understanding of why he didn’t just say he was guilty honestly- there have been cases where a party admits guilt, and then the actual perpetrator is found and cannot be held responsible because someone is already serving time, or the person is held responsible and the one who admitted guilt and wasn’t responsible is held behind bars even after the true perpetrator is found. Something weird like that happened with the happy face killer if I remember correctly- the guy who was innocent served time (he was framed by his gf at the time, she also went to jail for the murder neither of them were involved with) and the cops basically were like he took a plea deal, can’t be anyone else. It was proven to be someone else- and the main reason Sosnovske was released was because the actual killer confessed and advocated for his release.

Yeah the seminar leader made me sick. I do think it’s important to write about and vent when your upset(I write self inserts vent fics and my friend does poetry), and the leader probably wanted to be supportive in her own way, but it was EXTREMELY not okay to make Alice read that repeatedly. I would’ve puked in Alice’s position- and as a classmate I’d be so unbelievably triggered. Writers are often told our trauma makes our writing stronger and more impactful- but I cant explain how much I DESPISE that saying so much. I’d rather not be a stronger writer if it meant not having this trauma on my back

This !! what alice did to anthony should not be forgiven however she was a victim of a horrible act. she was raped and tortured the police enabled her, everything is really on the justice system

They didn't just put an innocent man in jail. They allowed a rapist to walk free. It's awful when an innocent person goes to jail, but a huge issue with wrongful convictions that people tend to gloss over is the fact that the true criminal is allowed to walk free with no consequences and able to hurt more people.

so we're going to ignor that she claimed an innocent man looked like her attacker even tho he looked NOTHING lik the attacker? we're going ignore the fact that he was convicted based on her li? its not JUST the justice systems fault.

@@JulyIzHere it is the justice systems fault. they shouldve caught on with the evidence. Also they basically manipulated her by saying her orginal choice was wrong. she also was panicking and wanted to get out of there as soon as possible. she was acting as any victim would.

@@cinnisnotokshe couldve said i dont know. the justice system isnt that bad the thing is if a vic picks someone out of a line up thats a huge point of evidence. There might not even be a case if she hadnt picked anyone out

And if you think about it, he basically gave up so much more for a crime he didn't commit, he spent over twenty years denying the crime, he lost loved ones to the injustice he suffered, he lost his father while serving for said injustice, he even gave up on having children with the love of his life because of it. This is honestly just so horrible, bro couldn't even find a good job, he suffered so much