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😂 I also noticed this suffering melting...

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Tables are dangerous! That is why Scott kills them before they can melt innocent people!

Ever hear melted ballistic gel gettin rolled around on a hot table and think man.... I should call her?

very insightful my friend

No, I’d bet they’d just bounce off.

Your bullet...... .... It Will keeeel.

AK-47s are also able to fire underwater and full of sand. Some would claim that they also fire under sand and full of water, but that sounds like a western lie. Such conditions only exist while taking fire in the rain and within a foxhole/on the ground, a common thing for cowardly, NATO troops. Russians have no need of cover! The only time sand and water may approach a russian weapon is when our Babushka rises from the grave and pours vodka down our throats!

1.5m and no verification mark? Come on youtube!

Modularity yeah

Ar is easier to mod in the US

@@samuelw4492 still better for modularity

@@squidy4082 yea like I said it’s easier to MOD in the US

The only thing that matters for this test is the barrel anyways

Doesn't matter what it feels like. What matters is effectiveness. I can pit three rounds on target for every two rounds of 7.62. Plus 556 has bastly superior penetration. To say nothing of lethality past 300 yards being far, far superior

​@@sterlingcampbell2116😂 please dont.

@@sterlingcampbell2116 If there is a disparity between cailbers then that just means your a bad shot lol

@@BlueSkooma you are right.

@@sterlingcampbell2116 both calibres are not really good past 300 yards, this rifles are not made to fight past 200-300 yards. I can hit with 7,62 as good as with 5.56, the max range if it comes to precision is a bit higher for 5.56 but in generell that would not matter in a fight because fights with assaultrifles are normally at max. ranges of 100-200 yards, most of the time under 100 yards, so the slightly higher range of the 5.56 does not really matter, except you are on the range and want a bit more range to shoot, but if you want that you are better of with a different calibre.

Brandon said so

Wow you're right. If they made the gun out of wood that would have never happened.

The laser pre heats the body causing it to be more susceptible to ghost rounds massive damage. Stay safe

Fortunately, no "shoulder thingy that goes up." Otherwise, super deadly.

GarandThumb actually dumped an entire 30 caliber clip in half a second.

Don't forget the 50 caliber which can take out helicopters and jets.

And replace the FMJ with a softpoint 55gr bullet, and it will do the same. 9mm is anemic compared to even intermediate cartirdges for rifles..

But an AR-14 weighs as much as 9 moving boxes. If you drop that on yo foot you gunna die!

​@@kj3n569yes but that is a self inflicted wound via being a right wing nazi dog whistle. the 9mm weighs just about nothing and has the punch of a semi truck

Bowing the lungs out is but a flesh wound. 45 ACP does not just inflict flesh wounds, but destroys the soul, assuring that your enemies do not come back as undead.

That is where the differences will show. The m4 will probably do very poor however an A2 model with a 20" will do very good.

What is your definition of very poor? 62 grain tumbles better at those ranges. Still over 6-700 foot pounds at 300 which is twice as powerful as a 9mm at point blank

@@Lowiqpeoplethinktheyresmart Tumbling and fragmenting are two different things that have very different cavities and wound channels. The 62 grain out of a 16" has on average, 300fps less velocity than it's 20" counterpart. Since energy is a factor of velocity squared, the 20" delivers more punch, capable of fraging the projectile at 300 meters whereas the 16" is at its frag limits at just over 200. Most people have difficulty hitting targets beyond 200 so it's something true marksmen care about and not your average shooter.

@@sloppyfloppy79yeah not many people will ever have to worry about terminal ballistics at that distance. For one, not many people can make the shot, 2 if you’re sniping someone at that range with this small of a caliber.. not a smart or strategically sound move because your picking a fight with what is that moment, not a threat and that’s the only scenario you will conveniently get a torso size target to sit still outside of cover and 3 majority of gunfights over a much smaller distance than 300, getting hits is luck as targets are bobbing up and down peaking and shooting. You’re taking fire, so you’re concealed and barely popping up to take a shot and re cover yourself. You’re not looking at a stable target and focusing on fundamentals like people seem to think they would be, as if warfare is at all similar to their days at a flat range

@@Viking_367 You assume battlefield conditions from averages? I am in an area where I can see for over 30 miles in all directions. Very little cover and concealment. Out here in the Mojave Desert, it's not unusual to take shots at deer and antelope from 300-500 yards. Good luck getting closer.

This is what the left specializes in.

@@zakwilliams6236 that “boomer” is right.

ACTS & PROVE my guy👍

Also this has been done a million times.. AK 74M vs M4 would've been a more accurate & closer comparison

In case my comment was shadowbanned, ignorance is what a certain political party specializes in.

SCIENCE

Yeah at the end of the day it's all about setting up the situation so you're more likely to send your round into your enemy's body, while not receiving theirs. So many other factors determine that.

I would still rather get shot than stabbed

@@Christoph-sd3ziwhat if u got shot by a knife?

Even getting hit by a 22 is gonna take you off the playing board.

You should note that the AR-15 design is now sixty years old and dates back to the AR-10 of 1957.

Nope, you’re wrong buddy, AKM and AK47 are different weapons. AKM is modified version of AK47, the modification was made in 60s. It was finished in 1969. And then AK74 comes out. The design isn’t so good and it has low durability. It jams a lot and doesnt protect from mud, dust, sand and other things. It was made to be a cheap weapon that would be mass produced.

​@@lampredgo5440 tell that to the Arabs who were shooting with little to no problems

​@@lampredgo5440 The AK-47 is the one that had poor performance in field tests, that's actually why the AKM was created, better performance, better ergonomics and easier mass production. The AK-47 was a bad rifle, the AKM is basically a better version of the STG 44 (I mean this because the STG 44 is still used to this day, proving its effectiveness) being used in basically every conflict since its creation

@@SergioGarcia-lu5yoyeah i’m Arab in Yemen and we use Ak47 no problem do not know what my dude up there in the comment section was saying 😂 we have no problems with jamming and sand climate in our Ak’s

happy i wasn’t the only one to notice

😂nah man what was that? seriously

@@chilly3125 The editor had a bad night of sleep ig

I noticed it to. Glitch in the matrix.

If I had to guess, it looks like he edited out a sponsored segment. Usually the unique sponsors are when he's inside like that jumpscare was.

I disagree. I miss when it was just GT. Charlie has his own channel.

I agree.

@@snicklefritzd3612facts. He’s really not that funny

​@@aaa3d473both of y'all must be fun at parties...

Nah, please keep him off. He's just annoying...

I never thought about it quite that way. Solid point.

True, but the Russians never did anything to improve the accuracy of the delivery system until as of late.

Give me 7.62x39 anyday I'm not going past 500 yards

@@two23rem The Russians really did a missed a lot of opportunities for force multiplying accessories like optics on their rifles. Even something like the ACOG is a huge benefit to have for the average line unit. Unfortunately the AKs layout doesn't lend itself to upgrades or modular systems the same way the M4 and M16 do. Also the gas piston is going to be at a bit of a disadvantage for accuracy simply because the amount of mass moving back and forth. The Russians also never put a lot of r&d into better barrels. AKs are notorious for being out of concentricity in other manufacturing defects.

good point but you are also more accurate with a 556 platform, more accurate shots not because of the gun but the recoil, 556 you can more accurately put rounds down range vs a ak-74 but the ak-74 (if maintained right) will be more accurate not considering recoil, its kinda a vice versa and maybe comes down to preference or the situation

If you had to pick 5 56 ar m4 or 5.45 akm what would you pick

aw shuckkssss

Wut bout dat ayse? 😍🍑😩

​@@stoptrackingourdata8158 AngryCop has the dumpy of the group. Sorce: unsupscribe podcast

@@stoptrackingourdata8158bro… no.

@@stoptrackingourdata8158 💀

From this and other testing I've seen, it looks like modern hollowpoints are much better at dumping energy quickly in a soft target.

Well, I guess that has something to do with the engaging distances and the specific ammunition. Typically at high velocities, the 556 will basically explode in a pretty short distance when it impacts. The fact that the Russians very quickly made the 545 to replace 762*39 really shows how effective smaller caliber rounds can be. Besides, if my memory is correct, the Viet Cons were actually surprised by the devastating damage done by 556, the very teeny tiny round.

Sounds like a certain Gaige Grosskreutz. 🤣

good thing it wasn't a AK he would have lost his arm 😮

​@@DANTHETUBEMANlmao

My thoughts exactly.

Yeah. But pink mist.

As long as they're comparing rounds at the same time and the gel temperature doesn't change between testing the 5.56 and the 7.62 it's still a valid way to compare.

Imagine thinking they don't know that. Lol.

@@eriklarson9137what did you get out of this comment? Like seriously it’s a recommendation bc the gel was melting no need to look for an argument.

😂

@@EcclesTwelve13-14 what are the NG’s? Or nasty guards?

@@RosaParksWasWyt National Guard. Nasty Girls. No-Gos. there are few more, but they'd flag youtube's terms of service lol.

This is the kind of story that gives you more perspective than a range test on gelatin ever will.

I would think a 7.62x39 into someone’s shin would create havoc as well. Stay close to God and stay on your toes. You want nothing to do with the pointed end of either - not that anyone doubted this.

Awesome name 🤣

I think AR 15 vs AK 74 would be a more relevant test, considering what's happening right now.

@@scratchy996 To be fair they did test 5.45 a while back, and it just outperforms 5.56. I'm a 5.56 guy myself and there is great modern 5.56 ammo and living in the US it makes sense, my AK is even in 5.56. It's not that 5.56 is bad, it's just 5.45 is exceptionally good. Because of the long bullet and hollow nose with steel core it yaws consistently at almost all ranges, this causes much greater wounding potential. It's why people have called it the magic or poison bullet, you can get shot in the leg with 5.45 and have the bullet exit your neck because of the wild yaw.

I had the same curious thoughts as per the actual effective ranges.

Throw in a bit of body armour to start as well.

Yeah… most of us aren’t skilled enough to make the differences matter. I’m guessing most of us haven’t been in gunfights to even visualize and appreciate the differences.

Starting from the Vietname War

PSA makes good ak American aks

I like both guns and the difference if it comes to beeing deadly as not so big that you would have real advantages during a fight and for normal fighting distances the accuracy of both is good, 5.56 has maybe a slightly longer "effective range" but like i said in a fight so normaly in the 50-150 yards range, maybe 300 they are both good and if it goes further they both loose massive on performance and it would not be practical to fight with a enemie wich is like 500 yars away with assault rifles, because you would probably not hit anyone really in such a situation.

For post apocalyptic World i'd pick an AK-74 over those 2 no questions asked. Smaller 5.45x39 round, can carry more bullets, low recoil and just as reliable as AK-47 or AKM, and no need to keep it clean like M4. Perfection. 👌

Very true . . . but 5.56 turns Bad Haji™ into "Good" Haji™ even more efficiently Equally effective in making "Good" communists around the world

@@The_Assassin_of_The_Gray I heard it is making 'bad schoolboys' into 'good schoolboys' too very efficiently.

can ppl wig out abt the deal dash ad, this is sad (with out getting tuskegee syphilis studied)

@@Abd71brutal 😭

I'm former British Army REME Armourer, give me anything over our L85A1/2/3s

Good luck hitting the end of a gel block at 300 yards with a AK. Pretty much an impossible task. With the M4 it would actually be possible to hit at 300, making the M4 much more deadly.

@@infidel66687 you never shot a ak on 300yard didnt you? if you are a good shooter and own not a cheapy / crappy china ak its easy.

@@infidel66687I think he’s talking about ballistic gel dummy because it’s actually human sized and can show what the ballistic results look like in a body shot at distance

When I was in Boot Camp back in ‘02, the Admin Marines were hitting targets at 500 meters with the M4 no problem and they were ‘Expert Qualified’. These guys were just recruits, but they all made it is why I called them Marines.

​@infidel66687 say you never actually shot an ak without saying you never actually shot an ak.

Nice thing about a quality ak they last 80k+ rounds literally a generational weapon

I'd choose 300 blackout for home defense

dad moment

I mean, 7.62x39 is equivalent to a 30/30 and 30/30 can drop medium to large sized game.

I’d also have .308 at longer ranges so there’s that

Just have both calibers. Both have their perks.

@@robertsims9201or have way of both worlds they sell an ar15 chambered in 762

@@Emperio-zc5zr Absolutely not. Not a fan of those. My Arsenal SAM7SF AK47 takes ARs chambered in 7.62x39 for walks. If it's 7.62 it's gotta be an AK.

Why?

@@MeanBeanComedy probably gooey AF think about it.

Clear gel is made to make it easier to see the wound track and is not made to meet FBI standards like traditional ballistic gelatin is, so for serious results look at the tests done with FBI spec gelatin.

Amen

Don't forget the AR can be repaired/reconfigured in minutes with simple hand tools

​@ds6872 this is true but a basic field strip and cleaning can be done with an AK in a few minutes and there aren't any small parts to lose

Both rifles are fantastic, I totally agree. If I had to chose one it would be AK mostly because of the round. I trust it more against other mammals I might have the fortune or misfortune of meeting in the wild. I'm not talking combat, because in that case I'd rather have whatever I could get resupplied with.

Damn, that was perfectly said! You have gained a like from me good sir 👏🏻

I concur. But, I keep a 12gauge security model as my immediate HD nightstand tool. ...AKM after the immediate bump-in-the-night. Found a very nice condition lightly used Romanian WASR10/63 for $450 last year!

As a poor man I have a 19th century Napoleanic era British Pattern 1800 Infantry Rifle with a poker laying between the crevic of my hardwood bed. Zero maintenance and hundred percent reliability, even with cheap ammo.

AKs are more expensive than ARs .

Agreed. Price point, track record, durability...AK-47 wins handily.

As a real poor person. I have nothing. So much for _my_ "rights."

Hopefully you don't have to take down some big animals because 7.62 is better at that.

​@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju5.56 is better now adays it is lighters it is also good against especially soft parts of the body.

​@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju 5.56 is good enough for an Rifle it is lighter better modified and less Recoil and more Accuracy unlike the AK High Recoil and low accuracy.

@@sampangjustine8253 5.56x45mm round will be insufficient against hostile forces wearing body armor.

​@@sampangjustine8253 the only reason that u might think the AK is not accurate is probably the ammo you are using obviously in the US ur getting a much higher quality 556 and its not the same case with the 762 so thats not a valid point Also the modern AK'S are as accurate as any AR15 try a good quality AK-105 or an AK-103 and you'll see

This guy. Can you give Mike some tips on weapon handing too? He knows nothing about that.

@@eriklarson9137 you don't think people want to see clearer slow motion video of the cavitation and such? He is decent with guns and they have a lot of charm but they are not engineers. Though from what I've seen in other videos I probably could teach them a thing or two about long range shooting. The whole point of the clear block is to see everything clearly, and also it is designed so it is semipermanent as opposed to the organic stuff. I think the only benefit he was using is it is also less temperature sensitive.

Omg could you imagine how horribly dry and boring it would be if Mike and Charlie were engineers? Gaaaaaawd it would be horrible! Plus I don’t think any engineers would have such funny ways of miss saying SDI

@@dennyhleucka7786 Honestly you need to meet more engineers. Some engineers I have known are the funniest people, can't make a generalized stereotype for all engineers. Mathematicians on the other hand....

@@dennyhleucka7786 Good thing they're both doctors in New Jersey

The neocon globalists at NATO should be more willing to sit down instead of blowing up German shared pipelines. Then maybe the world world be at peace.

I find it a waste of time

@@reallymentalpig1173this is precisely why you are the way you are. dont bother replying, because i wont.

So he is the way he is precisely because he finds their conversations at the ends of videos a waste of time? Lol wut

Actually 5.56 is better at piercing body armour because of its speed

​@@enanny0616Even though 5.56 DOES penetrate body armor much better (this is a fact and simple physics), the .30 caliber round from an AKM is much more versatile. What do I mean? I mean that the 7.62x39 round is less able to penetrate body armors but much more capable as a bullet. The upsides is that even without penetration, youre having your breath knocked out of your body or possibly even thrown back/fall backward. The impact of the bigger round with more powder means that even if it doesnt penetrate, itll probably break some ribs and possibly make you die from blunt impact either way. Another thing to note is that because of its lower velocity, it actually dumps all energy and slows down way faster which actually makes a better home defense bullet rather than 5.56 (ofc using hollow point rounds negates that advantage over 7.62 fmj and bad marksmanship will end in someone dying unintentionally regardless of caliber). The downsides are usually range-based, which Ill admit hitting anything with an ak at 700 yards or even 500m will probably not be as lethal as 5.56. Now will you ever need to rely on that range advantage as a civilian in home defense or insurgency? Probably not, but if I was aiming that far Id get a higher caliber round rather than intermediate cartridge regardless. So in the end, the AK destroys cover and can kill with blunt damage alone. However the AR15 can defeat armor with specialization and is still very much capable. Its all up to what you want to use

I agree with you multiple tours as well didn't want to get hit with it.

History proved that. All the wars in medieval Europe... The Troubles... The US Civil War... The Spanish Civil War... The Cold War...

@@hungryburger1170WW1, WW2, etc.

Holodomor

@@hungryburger1170Spanish Civil war was justified

@@hungryburger1170 gamergate, etc.

They did do some testing with 5.45 a while back, and it's clear it has much greater wounding potential than 5.56, one constant is the 5.45 because of it's longer bullet hollow nose and steel core it yaws almost every single time, even at extended ranges. 300 BLK vs 7.62x39 would be interesting though, I imagine they would perform similarly depending on bullet type ballistically they are very similar in drop and energy. In allot of ways the 300 BLK was a attempt to make a 7.62x39 type bullet shoot out of a AR platform, a middle ground between the AR-15 and AR-10.

The blackout holds a bit less powder but shoots similar velocities, you can benefit from a 16" barrel for better performance but they also run excellent with short barrels allowing for a compact portable hammer. 300 blk with a 110 VMAX will cause a lot of damage because the projectile is quite soft and expands easily while getting a great increase in velocity over its heavier offerings.

Banana ballistics did this

@@-Zevin-it was developed to be shot subsonic. It wasn’t designed to do more than that. That’s why it was called 300 whisper before it became commercially known as 300 blackout.

@@jcows12 I don't think the 300 was developed to compete with the ak it was built to out perform the 5.56 ar with half the length.8" barrel 300 Carry's 10% more energy than 16" 5.56 out to 400 yards. easily suppressible and same platform and more energy for kicking doors!

the Hertzers 154gr soft points work real good on soft targets

I have a box in case of deer, as fmj are illegal for taking deer in my county.

​@@crohkorthreetoes3821my Peene 69 gr hardpoints are insane

Yoooo, I've seen what the SOST ammo did to unarmored bodies and it was gruesome.

...allegedly.

The day Charlie gets censored is the day freedom of speech is at the brink.

Where is Charlie? He hasn’t been in the last few recent vids.

His neck hair standing up, gazing into empty space... Whispering "Sweaty disabled idiots"

I have been wondering where he is to

@@Kremit_the_Forg by far my favorite 🤣

Direct sunlight isn’t helping either.

If it ain't white, it ain't right.

So if some mad scientist invents a laser that shoots in the sunlight spectrum then things will be nasty.

Or at least put some Styrofoam down to insulate it

Yeah, those videos are amazing, love all the knowledge he shares

We need more of those videos.

We need to know

we need those vids more than ever now considering overall state of the world

That would be nice to see

Le dicen cuerno de chivo por la forma del cargador???? Jajajaj definitivamente más cool que banana clip

@ElBach1y Si es por el cargador, tiene años ese nombre en Mexico mas años que yo yo creo, siempre se escucha "saca el cuerno" o "aqui estan los cuernos de chivos" chulada de arma pero muy buena

Or… Ak’s and the ammo for them are easier to smuggle en masse.

@@skeleton1765 in the past decade there’s been a huge amount of ar15’s and m4/m16 rifles being used by cartels in Mexico but the ak is still the status symbol in Mexico

Cuerno de chivo is the coolest nickname for any gun that I can think of. Sounds great to say “yo traigo un cuerno de chivo” sounds macho af

Yikes, thanks for sharing

Funny how youre proly mixing up both rounds because the 762 would be much worse, its a bigger cailber. Theres a Iraqi vet who killed ra9heads and said 762 was thw more deadlier round. His 556 couldnt keep them out of the fight whereas the 762 would put marines out of combat immediately

A lot of older 7.62x39 ammo was steel core, that stuff never tumbled. New FMJ is lead core and tumbles very quickly, shown here how the FMJ still does a ton of damage.

@@BryantVucich And yet even in this video with the premium rounds, the 5.56 was better.

@@luckymetal13 I think he probably is mixing them up

Correct. The biggest

Hope you’re doing alright brother!

Mikes' videos always make me feel better as well. I hope you are doing well, and will feel better soon. 🙏

If things get too rough, don't be afraid to ask for help.

These videos helped me through a rough mime. I didn't know mimes could be as rough as that. Damn rough, that mime. Thanks guys.

@@randybugger3006mimes can be very mean sometimes, and they’re very condescending acting as if they’re trapped in some box that we can’t see.

The bulk tula hollow points in 7.62x39 don’t actually expand. It makes them slightly more accurate somehow. I don’t really remember how but yeah

This video has showed me that if any of these rounds hits you, you are pretty much done for. Your basic FMJ ammo performs almost if not just as good as these “Gucci” rounds.

It’s because he needed to use true 8m3, not sure if he was using that or just normal Tula hollow point, as well as just m67 which is common mil spec ammo specifically made for more yawing when it hits targets, not sure why he didn’t use m67 as it’s milsurp when he used mil spec ammo for the 5.56

Hornady makes a plastic tip HP x39 that is nasty.

Used to be cheaper. It's all about the same currently.

Yeah I came looking for this comment. Id really like to see how the "poison bullet' does in these tests.

​@@ghostmournyeah. Too bad a free and accessible system with searchable video content didn't exist. Wherever would you look to find that?

Bump. Thats truly an apples to apples test IMO

Amen. Do it!

Yeah. I was thinking the same thing Dude.

Lol no, they would cream their pants😂

@@KnightoftheRound-kp9hd that's not the point of his comment, who cares if 5.45 isn't for sale on the U.S marketplace, this is a Eastern block cartridge.

God bless you and may you have a good healing journey!❤

That execution

he’s getting himself moved!

It would seem, in your worry, that you moved him

Charlie has been kidnapped by Hamas

@@mikemasek5039 😂

How are those guys doing nowadays?

Ive heard this from our special forces guys as well. Within 300 yds 7.62x39 is miles better on soft targets. A more fair comparison would be .300 blackout and 7.62x39

​@@matthewpham9525the taliban guys have switched to m4s and m16s lol

Yep, those guys are credible--all the bravery of the South Vietnamese special forces.

@@matthewpham9525 Pretty sure they were falling off of our planes after they fled from the Taliban in record time.

It's happening again in Ukraine. Giving regular infantry NVGs opens up a new operational arena by turning night into day.

556 is going way faster

Call of Duty must be Rad!!

Oh yeah!

Meat target time!

.308 wins everything in regards to damage performance. Not even a competition.

Also, Idaho ain't that far from Oregon, lol

Have wondered where Charlie even is? He hasn’t been on recently…

I mean most aks that people own are 7.62x39 so thats more of a fair comparison since not a lot of people shoot 5.45

Yes, that *would* be more of an apples to apples comparison, BUT it’s not the debate people always have. People always ask about whether 7.62x39 or 5.56x45 is the better round.

7.62x39 more common

I think the best would be M16A2 vs AKM and M4A1 vs AK-74.

I dont think the video was about a "fair comparison"

Facts!

this is a simple round for round ballistic test

Yea nah ,bore diameter isnt everything my guy, 55gr 5.56 out of a 20 inch barrel performs comparable to .308 in terms of terminal effect

The true test is right after micah retires......

@@GarandThumb Makes sense, for FMJ rounds through a generic setup vs flesh/gel, my money's on the AK. For specialized rounds, 5.56 all the way. I feel like there's been a lot more R&D on making 5.56x45 effective than 7.62x39. Typical Russians going "Nyet, rifle is fine." no doubt.

this still isn’t a definitive truth. depends on if you’re using 5.45x39 or 7.62x39 and how far away you’re shooting. I would take an m4 over the ak every day of the week