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Sure, it's clever but ends up destroying by annealing a tool that costs far more than the part made. Speaking of heat, where's the hardening, tempering and bluing of the fastener; all I see is softness covered in cold bluing?

Used to teach high school students heat pressing . They would file their own profile onto silver steel, harden and temper then do exactly the same as shown in the vid to produce socket heads individual to their choosing. Square, oblong, hex, triangular, oval........ Whopping the press tool in with a hammer, taking care, worked surprisingly well also, as long as work was securely held in a vice!

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​@@tinaliebe5118I don't think you can harden mild steel to give the quality of high tensile fasteners such as genuine Allen screws

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Mild steel can be case hardened but that would only make it more brittle and weaker. Unless you know the alloy even if it were a high strength steel such as a drill rod it’s not possible to get a reliable temper. This bolt like many products that come out of China will not stand up like the real thing. This exercise in lath work is good practice but the result is not usable except as an exhibit

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He could easily heat treat the finished screw if he wanted to.

@@snarkybuttcrack Judging by the swarf coming off, it looks like a bit of old iron fencing.

​@@mode1charlie170 No he can't heat treat it. If it's low carbon construction steel he can't do anything with this

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@@metallantik I was in Engineering all my working life - So I'd just "Borrow" them from work.

That's really not outstanding, he didn't do the threads with the lathe. But it was fast and easy.

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Actually, I'd make it from a piece of 3/8 piano wire. I'd make the head on a jig or on the arbor press. That way I could use a scrap of metal to hold it and a piece of scrap turned down to hold the hex bit. That is a lot of heat way too close to the precision chuck. Id form the head first and do the threads as the last step. Once the socket head is formed, Heat it red as mentioned, then quench in oil. Then clean it off until it's silver again and heat it until it's straw yellow. When that's done, chuck it up in the lathe and cut the screw threads with a carbide tool. It will be too hard for the die, or at least it will cause excessive wear. Besides, if you're helping to make an Allen bolt, you probably want a good precise thread. Or possibly an odd sized thread for some particular application.

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_"This is a really interesting exercise"_ in futility. Also, neither fast nor easy - that is, when compared to picking up a bag of STANDARD allen bolts (like this one here) at a local hardware store. Granted, it shows you HOW you can make one "in a bind" (you need something out of your door by morning, and it's 10 PM and you just realised you've run out of bolts of needed size), or if you need some highly non-standard one (say, left-hand, fine pitch imperial thread in oddball sizing in a place that's not US), but then you'd have to cut the thread "on the lathe"), but other than that the only value of it is in "entertainment category", aka "but I can make a video about it and post it on YT". Yes, yes, I can hear you - EDUCATIONAL value - true, but then do you really think people who own a lathe DO NOT KNOW those simple operation? Although to be fair, that hot pressing of Allen bit is pretty ingenious idea, but if I were to do that I'd loosen the chuck first a bit so that the head could rest on the jaws (= no risk of deforming/ bending the stem) and pull out the bit ASAP with pliers, but other than that kudos to this guy for this simple and effective solution/ trick. Also, to make the issue clear, my gripe here is NOT about "how to make a STANDARD Allen bolt yourself" but calling it "easy" or "quick". "Fun", yes, maybe. "Easy"? Well, not "hard', that's sure. "Fast"? Aw, c'mon... Be serious, will ya? ;-) PS: And, last BUT NOT LEAST, that black oxidation on Allen bolts is merely a by-product of HARDENING them - so cold "bluing" them is of NO PRACTICAL USE, it'd be merely a decorative and useless thing. While "regular" bolts are in 5.8 class of hardness (or 4.8 in cheap Chinese products), Allen bolts HAVE to have higher hardness class - 8.8 minimum. You just can't find any Allen bolt out there in 5.8 class. Why so? Because they're tightened and loosened with Allen key, that's why. (Also, while at it - that knurling is purely OPTIONAL thing too.) This cute little screw here is made from ordinary low carbon mild steel as far as I can tell, so... Yep, back to square one - an exercise in futility. Nice try, but...

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I thought that was a neat thing too. Not every job warrants making a rotary broach.

I don't think he is going to go into full production

And when and if youre close to the hardware store that stocks it, you stock up for yourself especially if you are in habit of making items that may require those screws. Those things are made in bulk and in all imaginable sizes. I'll give some credits for the attempt. though the odds of requireing to make a once off is slim

Indeed. An hour of work to make one, vs buy for $2/ea or less at the big box store or on Amazon. No brainer, at least for standard sizes. Now for an odd size or proprietary thread pitch or something, sure, I get it. And TBH I never thought of press forging the socket, I guess because how do you keep the cooling and shrinking screw head from shrink fitting so tight to the hex key that you can't remove it. Now I have seen it and know it could be done if there were ever a situation where it could not simply be purchased. And yeah, every bit of an hour, when you add up all the setup times for everything. I hate it when people protest that it only took 9 minutes and 28 seconds in the video. It takes me that long just to pick out some material and get it centered in the chuck. EVERYTHING takes a lot longer than you think it will and time is too valuable to make standard size and pitch screws on the lathe.

How dare you value your own time that high! ;D I gave up the big coffee can of random hardware long ago, too.

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Take a ordinary bolt put in drill press heat head press into Allen key using the drill press arm(drill off) the let it cool, run drill press and angle grind head round whilst the drill press runs. There that better?

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@@stigmautomata or what? and no I'm not not new in fact I'm extremely old at the game, I started my apprenticeship back in 1967.

It looks pretty good to me. Sometimes you need a special size or perhaps you live several hours away from a hardware store or perhaps it's a rush job and the store is shut out perhaps you live in the US and the hardware store only stocks imperial and you need metric. Lots of good reasons to make one. Probably the best one is "because you can".

It looks pretty good to me. Sometimes you need a special size or perhaps you live several hours away from a hardware store or perhaps it's a rush job and the store is shut out perhaps you live in the US and the hardware store only stocks imperial and you need metric. Lots of good reasons to make one. Probably the best one is "because you can".

@@malcdellow or perhaps you're some what silly and like wasting time and money, just to end up with an inferior product, yes definitely, there are lots of reasons, just none with any merit.

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I would have shielded the chuck with insulation

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you make it. :) I think This Old Tony has covered that, or one of the other Machine Shop Mafia here on YT.