wasn't that for rocky marciano "if you like to lose your money bet against rocky"

​@@yes-qw6omlmao just sf b

​@@yes-qw6om علي افضل من روكي

i know i am just comparing the quote@@ahmedahmed-rr2wp

Liston must have heard Ali say that, because he bet against himself and made about 1 million$.

The “Ali Shuffle”

Thank you!

literally don’t care, just needed the outcome. i didn’t know the outcome but i didn’t think to just look it up on google. because of this comment i forgot i could just go back to the beginning and find out who won. though even typing this now, i realize i could have just looked it up. more time wasted.

I'm one of those younger watchers, 22 years old and recently got an interest in watching this old boxing fights. I think it's super cool to see two machines clash. It's the pinnacle of strength and being a man. Amazing to see two dudes in their prime of their lives throwing punches at eachother that would kill a regular human. I'll watch the fight now for the first time ever, I know ali will win the world title but it doesn't matter let's go!!!!

Using Dirty tactics.

@@michaeljagger2079 like? Was staying in the ropes against Foreman a dirty tactic?

Agree

Most overrated of all time.

Cus D’Amato claimed Ali was the boxing wizard.

It was fixed, Liston was being careful to avoid hitting Ali.

Moron 🤦 Ali wasn't even well known at that time, he was basically a bum ​@@MrMarco855

​@@MrMarco855 no it wasnt. Second fight possibly. Sonny was trying to take Ali out in the 5th before he got his vision back. It didnt work and Sonny eventually gave up.

​@@MrMarco855 Ali fixed it with his right hook and jab lol

I recorded this fight on vhs tape from ESPN classic in 1999 and I asked my 70 year old uncle why did Cassius bow to that one fighter(Ray Robinson)? He just laughed and said because"that guy was pretty good in the ring."

joe Louis would be a cruiser weight by today’s standard and rocky Marciano would be a small slow light heavyweight by today’s standard .

Marciano was only beat washed up fighters and one of his relatives several times. In my opinion he is not even in the top 25 heavy weights. Now no white person would agree because they love this guy. Would not have done well with any of the recent fights.

What's in the food champ?@@protectorategeneral

Joe Calzaghe..Cuck Much?@@proplayer566

Classic line👍

I’m a big Ali fan I always go back & watch his fights he’s the 🐐in my book that’s not even up for debate but the movie was very good I actually enjoyed it!

Godfather of harlem

The guy who played Muhammad did a great job in that film as well!

Simply put, "The Greatest."

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Brave at draft dodging 😂

​@@daviddennen7479 I fact braver to draft dodge than enlisting at that time his decision to stick to his guns and not fight in a war that he does not believe is for the right reasons is one of the bravest things a person could have done back then particularly with ali being a man of color he was hated by many for that at the time, and guess what he turned out to be correct, The Vietnam war was proven to be a senseless false flag based unnecessary war

@@daviddennen7479 Ask the US Supreme Court, you phony “patriot.”

I agree but Liston was kind of an A hole. Sonny pissed of the government just as much as Clay did but he doesn't get the praise.

Same 👌🏾

My favorite fight with Ali was when he fought Joe Frazier

The Thrilla was the best for me. Brutal.

nobody even watches today's fights they all boring

Actually his name, by that time, was indeed Cassius Clay...

fiucik1 but he did not like people calling him Cassius clay after he became muslim

@@fiucik1 But after liston's match he become "Muhammad Ali", that's his name, we're not in 1963

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 because you are a dumb moron don’t even understand HISTORY

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 And I care about him because he inspired me but you could stay there just talking ugly

Umm, sure. Though it's evident you know nothing about Intellectual Property, media or master rights, copyright, licensing or anything like that. But sure, complain about nothing, I guess. I'm happy to be be able to watch this. Easily. Right here on demand at home.

I would say Ali won the third round

That tells you how good Liston was. One judge had it tied 3-3 after 6 rounds, in a fixed fight. Liston won 3 rounds without fighting, he was ordered to quit, it was fixed by the mob.

​@@MrMarco855Liston was a monster man

and half his age

Age was a factor vs the earlier liston. Similar to leonard hagler when hagler was too slow

Sonny Liston couldn't even beat Ali when he cheated and put the stuff on Ali eyes Ali was hungry he wanted that title and Liston didn't train right for that fight and he was older than what they said here but still if he shouldn't have tried to cheat he couldn't even beat Ali cheating Ali was fast

Preach

​@@roisingtommyali was eight years younger than sonny. Everybody thought ali was gonna get destroyed

You're right. No excuses were necessary because the fight was fixed.

fixed fight my as, why the heck would the mob want sonny to lose, in fact they would want him to in so they could get money@@MrMarco855

@@MrMarco855 man be quiet you probably wasn’t even born yet and if you were you didn’t have any inside information on the fight fixing side of things. You going by what you heard not what you know which is nothing But this I know was true and facts and not something I heard. Black Muslim’s were there in that crowd low key there to support and protect young Cassius Clay and they had no fear of fight fixers or mafia members so that’s my point that paints your argument and lack of proof simply a false narrative. And one question. How old were you then? I was ten. Don’t lie. The one thing I have never heard my whole life is the first fight was fixed. Maybe the second fight but not the first so get outta here with that.

@@jessegibson7734 I was 8 when the fight took place, 68 today. That hardly matters. What matters is that I see a fix with my own eyes because I have good hand/eye coordination. I was a good athlete but more than that, I see things within a sporting event that others often miss. Not bragging, any skills we have came from God and we're all good at certain things. Sports is my thing. You talk about only knowing what I've heard, yet you say that you've never heard anyone say the first fight was fixed. If you never heard anyone say that then doesn't it make sense that I probably never heard it either? Nobody told me anything, I see the fix from a mile away. There were others, however, that were suspicious at the time. The boxing commission withheld Liston's purse until later, proving they were suspicious. The FBI investigated the fight, they made a report stating the fight was fixed. That report remained sealed for 50 years until the Washington Post received a copy thru the FOIA. Also, one of the men in Liston's corner that night came clean late in life. He said he wanted to clear his conscience before he died. He said the shoulder injury was made up; it was part of the fix. Watch the last 30 to 40 seconds of the last round. Liston threw 5 or 6 punches with his left hand. He was under no pressure from Ali at the time, they were fighting at a distance. Liston threw a left hook and 4 or 5 jabs. The bell rang, he went to sit down and within a few seconds he quit the fight. You tell me, would the HW champion quit on his stool from a severely injured arm/shoulder, right after throwing 5 or 6 punches with that arm when he didn't have to? How could he have been in such pain that he quit when 30 seconds before he was using his left arm freely? There's other evidence and unlike most Ali fans who come here and chastise me, I did a lot of research. I didn't need to do any research for my own sake, I did it for the naysayers who were too lazy to do it themselves. The first time I saw the fight was right after I retired. By the second round I nearly fell off my chair. The acting by Liston is so obvious that a blind person can see it. You guys are blinded by your man-crush on Ali. You're too invested emotionally to see what's right in front of you. Liston was guiding his jab left, right and too high. He held back many wide-open KO shots ( ask and I'll show you several times that he held back KO shots ). He intentionally followed too far away to land a decent shot. When he was right on top of Ali he held back and threw no punches, or a soft body shot instead of a left hook to the head. Liston threw far more body shots in this fight than in his other fights. Body shots are safe because you can 'hold' them without it being too obvious. It looks like you're landing something, he was intentionally not landing hard shots to the head. This was the easiest of fights to fix. Liston's management was the mob. Ali's trainer Angelo Dundee had mob friends. Angelo's brother was the promoter of the fight and he also had mob friends. The mob fixed almost all of the fights and the 50's and 60's were loaded with fixed fights. Both Liston/Ali fights were fixed. Ali was in one other fixed fight. The last fight before suspension with Zora Folley was fixed. Ask me if you want to know why the Folley fight was fixed......................... I always research things before I talk.

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And your research was based on what exactly? Hyperbole, rumors, propaganda ?? Were you in the dressing room when the fix was made. You do not know what you are talking about !!

@@@wesleypresley1000

In light of how stupid this comment is, I’m guessing your house ain’t worth a whole lot.

The people owned ALL of boxing not just a fighter. Rocky Marciano an Italian who grew up with mobsters was clean in a mob run sport as you claim but Ali wasn't lmao and what about his more dangerous fights like Foreman, Frazier, Norton, those were fixed too LMAO sit down

The crowd also booed Liston before he fought Patterson

Also, liston was old, slow and over the hill much like Hagler by the time he thought Leonard

Liston was also old over the hill by the time of this fight

Was Liston not 8 to 1 odds on favourite for this fight...?

@@sunnymccoy9327 That is about right. According to Wikipedia, 7-1. Wikipedia says the odds against George Foreman were 4-1, which surprises me a little. I would have though he would have been an even bigger underdog in the later fight, but the betting odds against him vs Listen were even longer.

The fight was fixed.

Wow mate.what a story.I'm aussie.,V VET.

@@wesleypresley1000 I had an interesting encounter with a couple Aussie officers in Vietnam. We were in an officers club and wanting to be friendly I said to them, hello Diggers. They appeared shocked and Said, “We’re not diggers, we’re officers.” I thought I had insulted them. And asked what are Aussie officers? They said, “We’re a bunch of bloody bastards.” I had a good time with them.

Why was he not ready? He had film to study, it's not plausible to say that he didn't know Ali's boxing style.

Ali was smothering Liston in most of you timestamps, grabbing onto him and clenching whenever he couldn't escape. I won't go through every point individually but at the moment at 21:10 , Liston was smothered. Ali held onto him so that he most likely couldn't put his hips into his right. He could have still thrown his right, but from that position, it could have landed to the back of Ali's temple, which would've been a fowl. Since Ali didn't have the strongest grasp on him, Liston COULD have stepped back to make room for his right, but like you said it was the towards the end of the fight and he could have been tired or reeling from that shoulder injury he had during and even before the fight. You were saying that "Those aren't the fierce punches of Sonny Liston". Well, that might be the reason for it. Sonny notoriously had a shoulder injury coming into the fight and was the reason the fight was stopped. If you want to argue about fixed fights, watch the rematch

I agree, that wasn’t the Sonny we knew. Not very aggressive and not landing or even really trying to land some of his major shots

​@@amosdraak3536Ali just got a chin, sonny threw bombs that landed

Sonny was throwing punches from the grassy knoll, but Elvis stepped in to save Clay. Fixed fight.

@@godlion9808 Show me some hard shots that Liston landed. I saw 2 or 3 in the entire fight. One was a left hook but when it landed Liston froze the punch so there was no follow through. He landed it by mistake but was careful to hold it so as not to hurt Ali. Otherwise, I saw a jab or two, and a bunch of pitty-pat body punches. He ordinarily didn't throw many body shots but in this fight he threw a large number. He did that because body punches are easy to 'hold' and it's difficult to tell if that's what he's doing. It gave the appearance of Liston landing something rather than nothing, but it was designed to prevent him from having to throw a higher number of head shots. It's easier to see if punches to the head are being held or guided to miss, and if a solid head shot lands by accident it could screw up the arrangement. Watch Liston's jabs closely, he missed them left or right, curling his fist to one side or the other every time. You can see him doing it, many times he was straight in front of Ali and he threw a jab that he curled left or right at the last second. He was known for his powerful and accurate jab, everyone thinks Ali's head movement was the problem but that's ridiculous. Watch Henry Cooper in their first fight just 2 fights before this fight. You'll see Henry landed jabs and left hooks time after time. Cooper had slow feet and slow hands, a much shorter reach than Liston and yet he had a lot of success landing punches on Ali. It makes no sense. The same is true of Ali's fight with Doug Jones in Ali's last fight before this fight. Jones almost decked Ali in the first round as Ali tried to back away with his hands down. Jones and Cooper each had no problem landing numerous punches against Ali, both of them came close to beating Ali, but the great Sonny Liston couldn't land a decent punch, not even in a round where Ali 'saw only faint shadows', according to Ali himself. I see comments saying how amazing Ali was to avoid getting hit in that 'blinded' round, they say it's unbelievable. They're right, it's not believable that the great Sonny Liston, or any fighter for that matter, couldn't lay a glove on a blind man for an entire round. Anyone who accepts that Liston couldn't land a decent shot for 3 full minutes while Ali saw only shadows, is not being honest with themselves. Ali fans never consider the absurd circumstances of that round, they were elated that Ali survived and don't care how he managed it. They can make up an excuse with no problem, but the truth is that's not how it would have gone, no matter who the opponent was. No fighter can escape being hit for 3 minutes against another pro fighter if their vision was badly compromised, it's not the least bit plausible. That situation alone should raise a ton of red flags but it's only one small piece of an overall ton of evidence that proves the fight was fixed. The FBI said it was fixed. A few years ago the Washington Post obtained an FBI report that had been sealed for 50 years. In the report the agents working the case all believed the fight was fixed. A man named Ash Resnick was known to be the fight fixing man in Las Vegas for the mob. Years later a friend of his named Barnie Magids told a story about the fight. He said that Resnick asked him to join him in Miami for the weekend of the fight. Resnick initially told Magids that Liston would KO Ali in one or 2 rounds, Magids was planning to lay down a bet on Liston. Resnick changed his story before the fight took place, he called Magids and told him to forego betting on Liston, saying he would explain it later. One of Liston's cornermen on that night made a confession late in life. He said he wanted to clear his conscience before he died, saying the claim of a shoulder injury was an invented lie to accommodate the fix. A story was published in Life magazine after the fight, it claimed that Ash Resnick lost a bundle betting on Liston in the fight. A mobster later revealed that this story was planted as a cover for Resnick's involvement in fixing the fight. The logic being if it was accepted that Resnick lost a lot betting on Liston, he certainly wouldn't be suspected of being involved in a fix that had Liston losing. How did the story find its way into the magazine? The mob had tentacles everywhere. This was among the easiest of fights to fix, and at 7 to 1 odds there was a truckload of cash to be made. Liston was managed by the mob, Ali's trainer Dundee was known to have mob friends. Dundee's brother also had mob friends, and he was the official promoter of the fight. There were mob connections on all sides involved, and the mob was fixing most/all of the fights. There's more evidence, but in my opinion the best evidence was the fight itself. To a diehard Ali fan, he won and they refuse to hear anything else about the fight. That's understandable to a degree, the 2 fights with Liston were the foundation for Ali's legacy. Wherever Muhammad Ali is today, he agrees with me. He doesn't need nor want those fixed fights on his record, he knows that now. He was one of the best HW fighters in history, he doesn't need fake fights to add to an already great legacy. He wasn't the architect of the arrangement, but he had no choice but to go along. The mob didn't take no for an answer. Ali had one more fixed fight in his career, there was a reason for it, I'll share the story if anyone cares to hear it. This is too long already, some will let me know in a response that 'they won't read all of that'. Reading is bad for some people I guess.

I don't like to think Liston cheated, even Angelo Dundee says he thinks it was likely an accident that the ointment from Liston's corner got into Ali's eyes

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I don't see Liston having more athleticism than Frazier and Tyson here. He was always flat-footed and stiff in my eyes. His two greatest weapons were his jab and power (which were aided by his exceptionally long reach for his height). I think Tyson had more torque and speed to his punch followed by Frazier. Liston simply had heavy hands the same way Foreman didn't look like he had great speed but he just had a lot more power than his opponents. Frazier had more bobbing and weaving while Tyson had more side to side movement under his Pea-a-boo stance too.

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 A young Lennox Lewis was knocked out by Oliver McCall. An older Lennox Lewis was better. Neither would have beaten Ali in his prime. I would put anybody in the ring on Nov. 14, 1966 and they would have lost. That was the night Ali dismantled Cleveland Williams

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 You're fighting the good fight against nothing :-) What do liberals and the Black Lives Matter Movement have to do with Muhammad Ali fans? Who's brainwashed here? He was the most popular and recognizable athlete in the world in the 20th century. His fans have all kinds of global political views. Stick to boxing with your commentary. You seem to have some knowledge there. Outside of that topic, you are a biased, and blathering fool. The world doesn't care about your dopey culture wars.

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 Good info on Williams. Makes sense now why Ali was so dominant. As for the rest of your biased ramblings. I suggest some yoga and a vacation. It takes a whole lot less energy to be less judgemental and biased. Carrying around all that hate will give you angina.

@@seniordavidmanderson9232 Yet, that same man who was in diapers at 50, was the most feared man in sports when he fought Ali. Nobody believed Ali had a chance. He dismantled Paterson twice and looked to be invincible.

This fight was before he changed his name.

maybe liston was just tired and he didn't have the energy to throw the over hand right

@@shaggy492 It was the 3rd round. Liston was known for stamina, among other things. He wasn't tired, he was under orders.

Then how come I see you in the comment section of every video that has anything to with Ali😂

Listing was too old by the time of that five; similar to Hagler fighting Leonard when Leonard delayed for a long time until Hagler got slow

@@hardcorehouse I called it in eight but they stopped ot in seven because they didn't want me tool look so great

Were we watching the same fight because it looked pretty even to me and then Liston quit, so I don't see where he was outmatched. I think Liston would've knocked him down in the 7th or 8th by that perspective and I don't say that.

Although I agree, age defo played part Thing is many still though Liston was definitely knocking ali out. It was still a shock to many

No, ali’s vision wasn’t clear at all he said it in an interview after the foreman fight that sonny’s team put something to blind his vision for a few seconds and they bought it from a man who at the foreman fight came to ali asking him to buy it to win but ali refused because he doesn’t do dirty work and then realized that this man was at liston’s corner at this fight and he is a wealthy well known old man in NY that gives fighters this thing to let them win and thats what happened to ali in the liston fight and he still won the fight while going through a big problem like this, because his vision was seriously affected he was basically blind in that round

Wasn’t fixed

Wasn't fixed.

Pillono one of sonny's man admitted that sonny asked him to put something (idk what was it) to his gloves.

@@aronbalkovics6598 Ali admitted his team did it too.

@@AB-ce5fg when ?

There are slow mo videos on youtube of the so called phantom punch. It landed and it landed hard. Liston's rolling around afterward will always be questionable but he got hit by a lightning fast punch that sent a shockwave through his whole body.

Ali never had such power. Enough with the bullshit.

*That's why he was such a great fighter, he let his brown bombs do all the talking.*

He is the Greatest

People like you make people stay away from religion.

you’re a white man calling him by his slave name and you’re bashing him for his religion.

​@@toribubu2907not disagreeing with a man's choice of religion but the slave name thing is just a trending thing in the Nation of Islam at the time. There is absolutely no evidence of slaves being given their slave owners last name and in fact slaves weren't even allowed last names. When freed they picked the names of the towns they lived in. Cassius Clay, Malcolm little and even lou Alcindor just bought into the Nation of Islams marketing which later became known as a black racist nationalistic organization luring black people the same way scientology does to actors nowadays.