Yes 😃Always the best Ali 🥊🥊

divegabe because that’s the round mob fixers told him to do it. The fight being fixed is a now recorded fact.

This is Clay not Ali he wasn’t Ali till later

MANCHESTER UNITED what???

MANCHESTER UNITED but Manchester is ass

I'm 36 and never really been into boxing. I'm home sick from work and started studying his ideals, stumbled into a video of his first fight with Frazier. Now I'm on my 3rd fight. Dude was an absolute beast. Who wouldn't be captivated by that showmanship?

@@Theculturalcannabisproject True man

Im 30 and my oldest has seen it lol

I was there somewhere...

@@michaeldundee8300 for reals

Awesome story ... phantom punch brought me here title of clip is wrong though overall still I enjoyed watchin

Yes it's all very true, Muhammad Ali was my hero, Sonny Liston was unbeatable at the time, and later on, in my view, he was very much underrated. Meeting Ali, even though he was in the twilight of his career, was just terrific

I just turned ten when l heard the news it sent shock waves all round the world as Clay was a huge under dog.

How old are you??????

Really?

especially in the heavyweight division

Looking like a middleweight. And that chin that very few have. The men he fought were all supposed to beat him. Incredible competition and he would win. And even better, the guy’s that beat him would lose the rematch. Doesn’t happen too often.

The closest thing we ever got was James Tillis, and we all know how THAT went

The goat..end of story

Inaccurate. He was so so far ahead of ALL times.

He Shook the WORLD!!!!

God* indeed.

Wow that's really cool old timer , any more good stories sir .

@@freestyleking2151 ask away.

Yeah I was 6 and I can remember listening to the fight on the radio with my dad like it was yesterday. I'm 62 now.Lol

Must be great to watch something you lived by ear.

@@mynamehaschanged that's probably why I remember it . not very many memories of the things that occurred in history by radio.

Yea he couldn't hit what he didn't see

Lol Ali was hilarious og and true pioneer the greatest boxer ever

I thin Liston ripped off history with this fight. He was being outclassed, was infuriated, and just quit. He was a bully who was able to thump the crap out of everyone but by the end of the 6th he knew he had no place in the ring with this kid. He could have made a much better fight, IMHO but sucked out.

@Zak Quinn the Liston who fought Machen would have stood no chance against Ali. I agree that Liston is one of the greats, and it sucks that he was older when he fought Ali. If he were in his prime we could be having a different discussion. I think that Liston was left handed or ambidextrous. It's odd how his left jab/hook was what he smashed people with - if he could hit you. He was no faster with that jab in his other fights, and I do not believe that he was pulling punches in 1964. Who knows how bad the injury was. I hate this type of situation were no resolution is available. I want you to watch the first 4 rounds and count how many punches Liston squarely lands and compare this with misses. Do the same with his fight with Patterson. Ali slid almost all of Liston's jabs, and those jabs were no different than any fight Liston had, ever. When Ali was complaining about his eyes he was taking bombs, and this leads to another point - that Ali was legendary at taking punishment. I think some fighters are just bad matchups for other fighters, and I think this is the case here. Ironically, Liston would have crushed Frasier and Ken Norton - who I feel were Ali's only true losses. BTW, I do not think 1964-65 Ali would have lost to either of these two. I just watched three early fights and loved them. Liston Besmanoff is a good fight and Liston looked fit. His story is just so odd! Imagine if he started as a kid and trained with the best and then went to the Olympics before turning pro with supporters who believed in him. It would have been a totally different career story. He seemed like and interesting man. I noticed in the Besmanoff fight that the two of them touched gloves at the end of some rounds. At the end of the fight both showed great respect for the other. I liked the Tyrell sparring session, and Liston's comment about Tyrell hugging him more than his wife!

@@ernestboykin3rd706 Larry Holmes would disagree with you. He claims Ali is the most overrated fighter of all time.

He wasn't a Larry Holmes fan then.

@@kevindouglas8652 Holmes was a little later, I Remember watching Holmes myself; those others were already history, when my father would tell me about them.

The thing with Ali.He used to put on weight big time,between fights.You would see him,eating while on TV shows,badly out of condition.6 weeks later he would climb into the ring,take off the robe,and there stood this magnificent,strapping athlete.And that's what he was.

May your father RIP 🙏🏾

@@kevindouglas8652 yap Larry was not a boxer by then

GeneralKayoss lmao

BEST off without that rubbish we leave that nonsense to CLOWNS like Trump

He was an introvert Angelo was responsible for his antics

@@peterwood-jenkins3634 Trump is your president tho. How's that Russian collusion impeachment conspiracy theory working out? lol

thank God he was around before all that fake shit

Not as much confidence as mike Tyson at19 and then becoming world 🌎 champion at 20 , unbelievable 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊

@@leecorcoran6174 Tyson had great power and speed but didn’t act anywhere near as cocky as Ali did. Especially with an opponent like Liston who was regarded as almost unbeatable

That's what it takes to be the GREATEST.

@@loyaldude10 Ali is much smarter than Mike. He's being an entertainer.

​@@leecorcoran6174More confidence. Ali predicted that he would be heavyweight champion when he was 12 years old.

He fascinates me, kind of the ultimate pro athlete cautionary tale, the way the press covered him winning the championship was truly shameful

he made it onto the cover of sgt. peppers though. Most legendary pop album cover of all time

He was judged, in part, for his own reckless actions. You have to be reasonable about Liston’s behavior back then. I agree that he was unfairly harassed and dogged at times, but other times he deserved it.

Liston didn’t have the heart to be champion.

@@lisawinsin your mind only…Liston was a poser.

His reflexes, speed and coordination were on a higher level than everyone else's. Liston just couldn't catch him.

How can I be hard to hit too

Barack Uzamaki i think you need a seriously large pain tolerance

sevenrats; at this point Ali was unbeatable.

@@bb1111116 well,he did go on to get beat by Frazier a few years later.but thats with all due respect to 2 of the best heavyweights ever

Joshua Tree; Frazier was great. But after Ali came back from his suspension, at 28 years old, when he was past his prime.

So true i agree

@@americanpatriot3759 me too

not even original

Sonny was definitely the best fighter Ali fought.

Very Good way to analyse the fight. Lston calles Clay the Talking dool before the fight. The dool was a damn dood boxer !!

I don't think Ali even knew he could take a good punch at this point in his career

Late 1950s & early 1960s ( 1962) sonny liston might haven beaten Cassius clay

king of the world.

That's hilarious. I believe you, but it's hilarious, because Ali was known as much for his mouthiness as for his boxing skills.

@@bobtaylor170 right I agree

Thing is. This isn’t even his prime. His true prime was when he was laid off for 3 years.

@@anitelufalemei4200 Sort of poetic in a way. Ali’s existence is proof it’s possible to be greater than the Ali we saw, and we will never know what that looks like.

Watch the Hery Copper fight the one before this he was almost beat saved by the bell. He would have lost

@@MikeSmith-cn6ub bruh he beat copper twice lol

​@@MikeSmith-cn6ubHe wasn't saved by the bell. He got up and walked to his corner. If he had been saved by the bell- he would have still been lying on the canvas while the referee was counting.

Regarding the latest fight I agree, I'm not really a boxing fan now but Joshua looked like an athlete and Andy Ruiz looked like a fat bloke from down the pub. Ruiz must have been good as they were fighting for a world title. How about the Giant Russians, were they technically good or just so big and tall no one could hit them? Butterbean! Another fat guy, another powerful fat bloke. I would not wish to tangle with any of these but when I saw Ruiz on the TV I just laughed, where as Ali, Joe Frazier, Our 'Enry, George Forman, even the Don King era actually looked like boxers.

@@ketansajwan8071 As I said previously I am not really a boxing fan now, but in the past Boxers looked like athletes. I am afraid I missed the Tyson Fury bout but they certainly looked like they took their preparation seriously.

I don't agree. Klitschko AJ was a brawl. AJ Fury will be amazing. Wilder AJ. Some of the old fights were shite too.

Fury has comparable skill to Ali.

These guys and most up until the early 2000's were natural boxers. They generally started when they were kids and you could see the fluidity in their movement. Look at how Ali rolled his neck with punches and even though Liston was older, he still was good at slipping punches and going inside. The top boxers of today are big and muscular but they are not natural fighters. You can see it in their robotic like movement.

Liston isn't a legend, against Ali he gave up the first fight and he took a dive in the second one. He was far for being a lionheart.

@@marceltresvant8581 stfu

@Jonas Johnson I respect Liston as a human being but I wouldn't call him a legend.

@@marceltresvant8581 He didn't take a dive in the second fight he got knocked out.

@@Joachimhuby Lol, he clearly took a dive, that wasn't a ko punch and he fell on the floor in a very unnatural way, that was bad acting from Liston.

Yeah

"Amen" to that!!!

???... back then you had the mob. Don came later & was good for the sport. He did nothing diferent than what Bob Arum was doing. He just had a lot of hair & a different complexion that always smiled when they tried talking bad about him.

No Howard Cosell either.

tLotS replace _Don King_ with _Devil_ and the meaning is still the *same*

Exactly. Especially because Liston was dangerous in the ring

@Olaf Santos Ali himself said: “The thing with George, I had to let him hit me, the thing with Sonny, I had to make sure he didn’t hit me!” It was well known Sonny was one od the hardest and most feared fighters of that time. Please do your research before telling someone to "stfu"...

@Olaf Santos Even guys with stronger chins feared Sonny but i guess u have 0 manners so there is no point arguing with you.. Please continue being a keyboard warrior.. 🙏🙏

He didn't look too pretty with a broken jaw from Ken Norton.

He was indeed intelligent ... At the age of 22, aside from becoming the champion, he was also studying religions and mind games.

It was oil

@@hollowdragon2897 basically cheated right?

It was ointment

@@nabeelhakeem3593 yep

it was an accident. A substance that Liston's cut man put on his cut under his eye after round 3 to stitch it up. Sonny touched it with his gloves accidentally and when he hit Cassius it made its way to his eyes. That seems to be the most believable explanation. Sonny didn't have to cheat, because he didn't take Clay seriously. He barely trained for the fight and drank all night before. Therefore many doubt he had anything to do with that. Don't forget the majority of the public and experts gave Clay 2-3 round max until ge gets knocked out. It really did shake up the world.

That’s really cool. You must be proud. Awesome history

@@deanodebo1380I am proud! Thank you

He exchanged the true God for a false one.

@@timcarr6401 It's the same God.

@@TurfDoe The fictional demon god of Allah is most certainly not the Eternal, Infinite, thrice Holy, Immutability, Omnipotent, Omniscient. Perfect, Loving God of the Bible. His attributes are unlimited, I listed just a few.

@@timcarr6401 Jews, Christians, and Muslims all pray to the same God. Jesus is even a prophet in Islam.

@@TurfDoe That is patent nonsense. To reduce Jesus to merely a prophet is blasphemous. He is God in the flesh --Prophet, Priest and King. To reduce him to only a prophet is absurd and shows you have no knowledge, and possibly contempt for the Bible.

Of All Times!!!!!!

why I say a man winning the Heavyweight championship at the age of 22 must be the best.

Holmes was the only one because he was Ali sparing partner but as for Frazier and Norton it made them more focus

Liston was the last of the old-style heavyweights, Clay was the new, nimble future. The thug Tyson turned the clock back, but only briefly.

Such a disappointing finish.

Lol, Ali was waaaay past his prime facing Holmes.

Ali said Liston hits harder than George Foreman

I know, totally addictive, what with the surprises and shifts in the action. Could only imagine how fascinating it was for people watching it then, who probably expected Liston to KO Clay all along... at least until Clay took everything Liston threw in the 5th without being in trouble. One could hardly write a better script for a fight in which one retires after 6 rounds.

Maybe after 20 more times you'll finally realize that it was a fixed fight.

@@ballhawk387 You're right, they wrote a great script for this 'fight'.

@@MrMarco855 😂😂😂😂

Muhammad Ali

Cassius Clay aka 'Ali' still remains Cassius Clay

Got Dance

Thanks

SAM COOKE?

😂😂👌👌 epic

The greatest 🙏🙏

Definitely in heaven he was a helper of Men

Not as many people as you thought my guy

I.

TRUTH

The crown was taken in a back room deal in Las Vegas. What you're seeing here is a choreographed work of deception.

Liston left hook was meant to knockout Ali in second round. THIS Fight wasn't fix.

And to believe they’re still imbeciles that call this fight rigged.

Mike Tyson was faster at both, Cassius Clay still a Legend.

@@violent_bebop9687 Muhammas Ali*

​@@violent_bebop9687 his name was Muhammad Ali

@@tby3502 Cassius Clay is the fighter in this bout. It's written on the back of the his corner men. Announcers say CASSIUS CLAY. Didn't have the name change until later.

mike tyson?

Don’t disrespect Sam Cooke. Sam Cooke was also there.

real one is far far better

Lmao I'm doing the same thing right now haha! Never understand the bad rap the movie got. It could of been better but I liked it then and still enjoy it almost 20 years later

It should have been because they were acting in each.

Same here

Yes both ..... meetings,.... I will not dignify the meetings of Ali and Liston by describing them as ' fights ', ,were a work of fiction.

right lol joe rolled his eyes lol

Confidence

@@michaeldundee8300 Disrespect. This was a 22 year old kid, by any measure it's absurd and shameful for Ali to have done that. Even more so in those days.

@Alf G well he wasn't Joe Louis is the GOAT

@@therumbleinthejunglee Ali is way greater then joe Lois whoever thinks otherwise does not watch boxing

Nowadays heavyweights are 7ft 400 pounds on average

@@7Frosty7 Ali would still beat them

SO TRUE Its my personal most watched video of all time Unbelievable speed of CLAY This was the real Start of CLAYS Incredible Journey

@@peterwood-jenkins3634 fought a round near blind

I was 11... That’s when THE WEAVE first became popular! Nobody thought you could just WEAVE out of the way of a punch - not like ALI did!!

No

That's become a trite saying with no truth behind it. According to the Bible those two did not end up in Glory.

Tim Carr wtf are you talking about

Exactly what I said. There's nothing mysterious about it.

@@timcarr6401 who the fuck are you to say whether or not those two 'ended up in glory'?

Yes. I am 74 years young. I was 15 at this time. I have always been obsessed by Sam Cooke and Ali. Growing up in Glasgow Scotland. We were influenced by the black American soldiers who at that time were based in the naval base in Dunoon on the riverside in Scotland . I had just started going to the dancing on a Saturday night in Glasgow. Soul music was my obsession. Still is. But first time I heard Sam singing was around 1960. My uncle played his records. You send me. Then chain gang. I don’t need no therapy.I listen to the music of Sam Cooke. His music soothes my soul.

He couldn't have been because Liston wasn't really fighting.

I agree. The announcer was just saying anything?

Ali never looked hurt. We learned he can take a punch

MrMarco855 lol you are definitely what is wrong with people today

I suppose at ringside it might be different.The sound from the impact of the body shot,it might have looked painful but it didnt hurt Ali.

Saqib *Louis*

They were always pretty close.judging from the amount of pictures they have together over the years.

What did joe say about ali

Yes, t y!

Sean O'Brieon I doubt Liston ever gave an interview about Clay or about this fight at all. You can’t believe it just because you read it in a book. Liston didn’t trust reporters - for good reason - and basically didn’t give interviews.

@@syourke3 you are very confident in your knowledge. Where is your basis for it.

@@syourke3 that's not true... There are interviews of Liston online

Sujit Sharma Yeah. He says about three words.

Liston didn’t live long enough to give a “years later” interview.

As soon as I saw that footwork I was reminded the same thing, that that got translated into an entirely different physical are

Mr Lee did mimic his foot work after Mr Ali..

Bruce Lee would've been older than Ali at the time.

Bruce Lee shook up the world with Muhammad Ali.

Bruce Lee admired Muhammed ali. He watched and studied Ali’s fighs. “ When you expand, I contract, when you contract, I expand”. Bruce Lee. Think there is testimony of Bruce Lee and Ali meeting.

I had Liston winning rounds 2, 4, and 5. Having an even scorecard is fair, even if it doesn’t tell the full story

I could only see Liston winning round 5. 2 and 4 could only be given to Liston based on heavy confirmation bias.

I would give Ali rounds 1,3, and 6. Liston rounds 2, 4, and 5. But of course that wouldn't really tell the story of the fight. Overall IMO Ali dominated most of the fight beginning to end with the exception of round 5 where he was fighting blind, and was basically beating the sh!t out of Liston in the 6th, when he quit in the 7th. Liston was just plain outclassed by a better fighter who the world was only beginning to get to know. Liston knew he was going to lose. He managed to make it out of round 3 when Ali almost dropped him, but he was terribly damaged. After the 6th, he knew the jig was up and that he would eventually lose if he continued.

🎯.

Can you believe how long ago they fought!

He truly was!

Lucky man

In the most respectous way possible, i am jealous; God Bless You all, Ali was and still is a Giant among us, a different breed of person, the truly Greatest Ever

YESSS that was Ali I lived on the next block from him when he stayed in Chicago The champ knew me on first name basis.I went to lunch at Valios in Hydepark with the champ one evening.He Saw Me and two other guys and invited us to lunch. I've been around the champ more than I can remember. But my fondest memory has to be one night walking home and heard a Horn blow. I looked up and it was the champ I don't care how many times you could see Ali he ALWAYS left you with something to tell your grand kids.

Best Bout Gaming there’s only one Tyson Fury 😂

Respect the champs name my guy, theres a reason he changed his name.

Muhammad Ali*

@@harrywilly6155 Back when this fight happened, he still was Cassius. Let's stay true to history.

@@alkestos but when you reffer to him in 2020 you say Ali don't need to say Clay

John Wilkerson because he had true nobility of character, will and desire and one of the few to sacrifice what he was famous for..for who he is and his true touch with humanity at such a young age, is astonishing.

that was Howard Cosell's strategy.

His name is Muhammad Ali

John Mac Kongi

His name is Muhammad Ali

His name aint cassius clay

Kindness?? Frasier lent him money, then Ali called him a gorilla and an Uncle Tom...

C Wilson people will still be watching in 3019 😂

Yup me too!

Sudipto Roy Ameeen!!!

Sonny Listen used some powder to make Ali blind, you can hear Ali saying it in the interview.

My dad told me people in the crowd were saying Clay cheated the whole match by ducking punches the way he did lol

Draft dodger...

@@georgeleicht9917 ass hole

HA HA. I thought exactly that. He was slipping punches like it wasn't shit. AND IT WASN'T. For him. #TheGreatest

TRUTH

You should have seen a fixed fight, I guarantee it was fixed.

@@MrMarco855 You're waving the BS flag in solidarity Brother, I think you can stand down at this point lol Ali will always be the greatest regardless of assclowns like you

@@magicsugarbump4972 You're right, he will always be the best in the eyes of those with an emotional attachment. Only a guy with a man crush on Ali would insult a stranger for voicing his opinion. The emotions you are not in control of disqualify you from making a fair assessment. On the other hand, I care about the truth and about history. If it was up to you recorded history would be driven by emotion nonsense. Ask anyone, your response is too strong to be unbiased. A very biased opinion is worse then no opinion at all. I've done research, you haven't. I didn't need research to convince myself, it was for the benefit of die hard knuckle heads such as yourself. I got tired of people that had no idea about the subject matter insisting that there's no evidence of a fix. There's plenty of evidence it turns out, but that was a waste of my time for the most part. A guy that's too emotional regarding a particular issue doesn't want evidence, they want things to be the way they want things to be. A level headed, open minded truth seeker would appreciate evidence brought to show, but most hard nosed Ali fans aren't in that category. I can fill a book with facts and very persuasive information but you wouldn't open and look at the first page. I'll ruffle your shorts a little more, Ali had one other fixed fight, making a total of 3 fixed fights in his career. Watch the Zora Folley waltz, tell me you think that was a real fight. They circled close enough to hug each other, neither man had the desire to throw a punch. Folley went down on a soft punch, then acted like a damn fool trying to get up. A fixed fight by my guarantee. I know that doesn't impress you but it should. I'm much older, much wiser and far more intelligent from day one. If you're willing to accept anything then accept this; take advice from older men, it allows you to gain wisdom and to avoid risk and danger, without paying the price that others will pay while learning the hard way. Okay gomer,........and put your wallet away, this was free advice.

No one could seem to hit Ali in the face, so they all went to the body, which never worked. Reportedly he would get up in the morning and pee blood. But body shots never wore him out. That's what great shape he was in.

E re

@@lewisgodfree6826 what does that mean

Nah Cassius was great, Muhammad is the greatest

As Heaven

Ali is the greatest heavyweight but he defiently had more flaws than others

It's sad that this happened to Ali when Bill Clinton was a draft dodger and was still able to be president of the United States 😢

I think Ali rehearsed that scene several times to sell the fix and it went pretty well.

Keep fooling yourself MrMarco855. Repeating your nonsense over and over still doesn't make it fact. It just reminds us of your stupidity and ignorance.

@@MrMarco855 Yes, and Earth is flat and is run by lizard people.

@@TheClinchMagazine I thought it was square and run by iamtman.

@@iamtman1 You keep following what others tell you and everything will be alright Goober.

He later changed his religion to Islam and renamed as Muhammad Ali.

@@shazebalamkhan um

alam khan shazeb yeah looks like someone didn’t get the joke

@@shazebalamkhan it was a joke man lol

@@SONOFPEARL315 oh... hahaha 😂

Ali’s jab was pestering in the first 2 -3 rounds,after 6 rounds of snapping that jab it did damage and paid dividends throughout his career.

Sam Cooke was THE BOMB!!!!!😁

LoLo Tho hi

The 2 Greatest to ever do it

People miss that INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT PART.. Was I pretty Sam, YOU WERE BEAUTIFUL!! 2 Kings at the top of their games.. I LOVE BEING BLACK...

LOOOOL 🤣

reg buc ..i aslo remember that morning..would love to hear that radio commentary again..I was a six year old Clay fan.

That was discovered later when he had a real fight with someone.

That was a powerful lefthook. This proves that this fight wasn't fix. That punched was meant to knock out Ali.

@@mobetter25 you can see why he got Parkinson's though.Taking that left hook from liston and multiple left hooks from Frazier.2 of the hardest hitting heavyweights ever and never got knocked out.Superhuman is the only word

Michael j Fox fought George foreman and Ali at same time. That is how Michel j Fox got Parkinson’s.

Yeah Ali was always super respectful of Robinson. Always said Robinson was a greater fighter pound for pound.

...and SO many great champions there. Legends. Wow. It's 2019 and incredibly, I'm watching this for the first time.

Real Talk Ali said and I quote"I want to be a heavyweight Sugar Ray Robinson".

@@knowledgesomemore3564 Thats where he got his moves and style from.

@@knowledgesomemore3564 He was.

@Mark Anthony He refused to fight in an unjust war for imperialist interests. "No Vietcong ever called me nigger." Why would anyone sign up to invade countries and kill innocents to line the pockets of billionaires. You're the gullible one here.

​@@thedrzoidberg4559 The war was more about stopping the spread of communism and the domino theory from coming into effect. It really wasn't for the military industrial complex, people were drafted for it. Unlike the Iraq war, which they didn't conscript people when invading Iraq. Not every war the US fought in was Iraq (2003-2011) or Afghanistan. Not saying either war is right or wrong, but the Vietnam war was basically a second Korean war.

@Mark Anthony wow, so salty. Ali was a hero. He sacrificed for a principle. He was ahead of his times. Over 54k US soldiers dead, over 1.2 north million Vietnam dead. He was a great speaker, a sign of a high IQ. He was right to throw his Olympic gold medal into the river after being refused entry to a restaurant, due to segregation and racism. Again, he was ahead of his times. I am Irish and Ali was a hero to my dad and me. Easy to see why.

@some one .....who ?

@Il Hd Ya and you dont exist

And to Sonny's fairness, he was past his prime , never should have looked at clay to fight , but he let the public n Clay's mouth get em in trouble, no one knew how great he really was until that night, by then it was to late for the public n Sonny,, all you haters had to eat crow,, n still excuses were made for Sonny,, instead of just given clay his props,,

HATERS AND MISERABLE ASSHOLES WHO KNOW NOTHING OF THE "SWEET SCIENCE"!!!!

National Geographic used a strobe light. Ali could throw a punch in 1/100th of a second...no lie

Today it's called "running"

In this fight he wasn't touched but it wasn't his reflexes, it was orders from the mob.

Cus D’Amato claimed the great Muhammed Ali as the “boxing wizard”.

Ali was treated like Royalty by the Brits. The Brits were Ali's Biggest Fans.

The Spy yeah, Ali was loved back home in the UK. And I remember him being interviewed by Michael Párkinson, who was a great interviewer in the good old days of the 70s. That night Ali ate MPs lunch. It showed me how absolutely smart and intelligent Ali was. A great mind indeed.

I love how you can hear the announcers opinions transform he’s goes from brash young loudmouth to legit