My Supercharged Miata Is Already Broken? No Boost

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Engineering Explained

Engineering Explained

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My Supercharged Mazda MX-5 Is Now Slower Than It Was Before
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The joy of project cars! After installing the Edelbrock Stage 1 supercharger kit on my 2016 Mazda Miata, the unfortunate news is that things are not working properly. The biggest problem is that at high RPM the car doesn't have any boost with the gas pedal to the floor. We'll examine the installation, data logs, hose routing, throttle body, bypass valve, bypass actuator, and supercharger to figure out what is causing the car to not produce any boost during certain situations.
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@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
*Important Note:* A lot of folks saying "obviously the car needs to be tuned if you add a supercharger." If you watched the supercharger install video, you'd see the *very first thing I did* was flash the ECU with the supplied calibration file to support the supercharger/boost/etc (the tune). If parts of this video do not seem clear, I'd recommend watching the installation video - ukposts.info/have/v-deo/sX-CqJiusHyHlZs.html
@typhoon4645
@typhoon4645 3 роки тому
So this could mean Edelbrock's tune has an issue? Did you contact them about that? Or as an experiment you could put the Edelbrock tune back and see if the issue repeats. Its your car and your call Jason.
@EchoOfGecko
@EchoOfGecko 3 роки тому
@@typhoon4645 I'm curious about that as well. Seems like maybe the original flash failed, or maybe the wrong file was uploaded to the ECU? Seems like too many disparate issues for the tune file from Edelbrock to have out of the box... surely it must have been the factory tune.
@billbergen9169
@billbergen9169 3 роки тому
That's what I thought about.
@grumpy_0ld_man
@grumpy_0ld_man 3 роки тому
What a story. Brilliant that you sorted it. You changed that 0w20 oil yet? All the best mate ;)
@slobdog21
@slobdog21 3 роки тому
If you flash the car first and then disconnect the battery to perform the work wouldn't you lose the tune and it would return to stock? I thought it quite strange to flash the car FIRST but maybe flashes remain after disconnect.
@hurion1
@hurion1 3 роки тому
"It's extremely unwise to rush to judgement when you don't know absolutely everything about a scenario... Just focus on what's the problem and how to fix it." Words of wisdom.
@AireJayy
@AireJayy 3 роки тому
Like a true engineer
@alfredace
@alfredace 3 роки тому
This approach can be applied to many situations in life...
@HAMlLTON
@HAMlLTON 3 роки тому
I think that was a jab at the president
@bunbunson27
@bunbunson27 3 роки тому
@@HAMlLTON everything is a jab at the president, because hes an imbecile
@CynHicks
@CynHicks 3 роки тому
Pot, meet kettle.
@asesafata3741
@asesafata3741 3 роки тому
When Engineering Explained turns into Engineering Experienced
@garyvanremortel5218
@garyvanremortel5218 3 роки тому
Consternation turns to lucidation.
@ghostwrench2292
@ghostwrench2292 3 роки тому
As a dealer technician, that comment really hits home. Sometimes we techs ask ourselves "what in world was this engineer thinking when..." or I have seen repair procedures that make it evident the person who wrote them has not performed the repair following those instructions.
@garyvanremortel5218
@garyvanremortel5218 3 роки тому
@@ghostwrench2292 Part of the reason for this is that car companies stick the new graduate engineers on the un-fun stuff and the English Majors on the technical writing.
@xtremegamer4696
@xtremegamer4696 3 роки тому
"Maybe that's because I'm broken" Me too Jason, me too.
@aussiebloke609
@aussiebloke609 3 роки тому
Nah, it's just a tuning issue. :-D
@Htm
@Htm 3 роки тому
"with me sadly shifting in my garage" i felt that.
@mabsalom1
@mabsalom1 3 роки тому
Some real gems in your comments: "you learn things when you don't understand them and try to figure them out." "Maybe I'm broken but..." Most of us are broken somewhere. Keep on dude, we love you.
@sooththetruth
@sooththetruth 3 роки тому
Fantastic video, I like Jason's humility, and consider that a life lesson to be emulated. I am awed by people that take on projects like these, but I realize that he has created a job for himself that allows him to learn, so we can learn. And he doesn't curse or get angry when he faces a problem, he just goes through the list of possibilities. Really, he made no error, the tuning done before the supercharger was installed didn't work to change the mapping of the throttle body response, it needed the tune repeated, or a different tune ( I don't remember which). But in the end, he downplays the satisfaction of having taken on such a project, and now having his vehicle working right. BRAVO. Lets face it, most people reviewing cars look at them, describe them, drive them and tell us how they feel, they feed us the pablum about the technology put into them described by the press releases. Jason does it, but then he takes the time to show us what that technology is, how it work. On a white board. NO BETTER CHANNEL ON YOU TUBE for learning about cars, and that includes how they work, and the compromises of every design.
@hawkertyphoon4537
@hawkertyphoon4537 3 роки тому
Most of us are broken somewhere. Keep on dude, we love you. + 1!
@gregcollins3404
@gregcollins3404 3 роки тому
It bugs me when "how to" type channels never show anything going wrong. When stuff goes wrong is the best part, when you learn the most, and really show what you are made of...
@braddirt
@braddirt 3 роки тому
"and I genuinely find as much joy... diving through these data logs and trying to figure out what's going on with this car as I do actually driving it. Maybe that's because I'm broken." The words of a true engineer.
@seymourbaldauf8212
@seymourbaldauf8212 3 роки тому
Yes please keep this format. As a mechanical engineer this content is gold! For all those car “gurus” getting upset about the engineering being explained please ignore them, they mostly only understand putting gas in the car and flooring it.
@dagurorarinsson2827
@dagurorarinsson2827 11 місяців тому
No one in the comments is upset? What are you talking about?
@the-real-zpero
@the-real-zpero 3 роки тому
Enthusiast: *buys a supercharger kit excitedly Throttle-by-wire: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
@salemcripple
@salemcripple 3 роки тому
As a mechanic, i still don't understand why those are a thing. What the eff was wrong with a cable?? A simple metal cable going from foot to engine. There is absolutely NO need to get a damn computer involved.
@bbt0101
@bbt0101 3 роки тому
@@salemcripple you can watch Jason's vid about problems with manual transmissions, the one that talks about overhang. He explained something about cables NOT* giving the driver a linear feel in torque requested versus torque given by the engine
@alexsurh1472
@alexsurh1472 3 роки тому
@@salemcripple planned obsolescence
@-robster-robster-
@-robster-robster- 3 роки тому
@@salemcrippleIm calling you out man lol ! you say you are a mechanic? really? or a tyre fitter probably more near the truth ? its called refinement / fuel efficiency and emissions control , cars dont have carburettors anymore as mechanical adjustments and jets can not get anywhere near fuel efficiency/ emmisions required to make production type approval to be allowed to be sold legally almost anywhere in the world! now take a computer controlled system that can control injection parameters / timing / air intake in phenomenaly precise harmony to meet a 3d fuel map model at any rpm and load plus the ability to correct fuel trims and air swirl to suit the engine over time ...its just why there is no cable. benefits bang for buck, mpg, power, clean exhaust, refined smooth running , lack of constant mechanical tune ups, etc sorry to sound brash its meant to be a bit of light hearted humour , its just i get this kinda aggresive defensive attitude from customers who dont like to hear they need a £250 part rather than a £15 cable peace out
@DodgyBrothersEngineering
@DodgyBrothersEngineering 3 роки тому
@@salemcripple kind of obvious when you factor in cruise control.
@bretonkyle
@bretonkyle 3 роки тому
Now this is a real explanation of engineering! All the whiteboard math is nice, but boy if I don't do more "huh, this was supposed to work.... why doesn't this work" as an engineer lol
@bit0fun
@bit0fun 3 роки тому
It's the intuition/problem solving of engineering that takes the math and puts it to use. I find it to be the most fun part of engineering
@christian3448
@christian3448 3 роки тому
The art of good enough
@horusgarcia1
@horusgarcia1 3 роки тому
You can notice that Jason is not having fun like he did while installing it. There are no jokes or skits. It's all serious. I like it though but I was enjoying the little goofy jokes. Either way, it's good to know that I don't need more power if it adds morer headaches. I am enjoying the default engineering of my vehicle and adapting to the natural environments.
@somedude2492
@somedude2492 3 роки тому
If you make something and it works first try, it just doesn't feel right. I don't trust it. Specially if it has software involved.
@imranward4092
@imranward4092 3 роки тому
Facts 😂😂
@ardonjr
@ardonjr 3 роки тому
This was super informative. I don't have a Miata nor a supercharger but I love learning this stuff.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching Don!
@naimakka1949
@naimakka1949 3 роки тому
stop lying to urself, everyone loves the miata, if u don't like the miata, Krampus will come for ur ass.
@mrjiggles2540
@mrjiggles2540 3 роки тому
@@naimakka1949 😂
@slowdriver6868
@slowdriver6868 3 роки тому
Mate, I'm a 15 year old kid with no car and I still watch these so I know what to do when they become a cheap classic.
@ardonjr
@ardonjr 3 роки тому
@@naimakka1949 I never said I didn't like the Miata.. I said I don't have one..
@davidpegueros3
@davidpegueros3 3 роки тому
Love the humility. I've always found the wisest people understand their limitations and work on fixing them. The foolhardy hide behind their hubris in blissful ignorance.
@Julian-ly8fq
@Julian-ly8fq 3 роки тому
The engine feels great, much slower than before. Amazing!
@mr.a6508
@mr.a6508 3 роки тому
"It wouldn't be a proper project car if there weren't some headache along the way" Advice of today
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 3 роки тому
Yup , stash cash away for the unexpected. Like a new ac compressor on my project. I got it running , even the AC was good. A week later there's a bunch of oil drippings coming from behind the clutch. It sat for 8 years,that doesn't help. a And the project was going too smoothly anyways 🤣
@mikecurry6847
@mikecurry6847 3 роки тому
Haha idk why but when he acts like he's plugging the computer in at random places it cracks me up every time
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
I think I finally found where it's supposed to go. Bummer that it's behind the brake calipers.
@mikecurry6847
@mikecurry6847 3 роки тому
@@EngineeringExplained those darn engineers 😆
@aSinisterKiid
@aSinisterKiid 3 роки тому
@@EngineeringExplained just don't stick it in yer tailpipe
@TurboHappyCar
@TurboHappyCar 3 роки тому
He's a mechanical engineer, not a software engineer. 😆
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 3 роки тому
my cars plugs not to far from there actually in the front of the engine
@RocketDragons
@RocketDragons 3 роки тому
I, for one, greatly appreciate that your videos aren't just project cars and dyno runs and driving. This is what sets EE apart from every other car channel on UKposts, and why it's my favourite. I love learning about this stuff!
@sticksuicide230
@sticksuicide230 3 роки тому
I love how you explained your thought process and loved your eagerness to learn and resolve the issue. I just want to thank you for actually sharing this info with us, because most UKpostsrs just make a video about the end product rather than the process taken to get there. It shows that with a bit of reasoning, you can troubleshoot an issue and narrow down the causes
@CosineHyperbolic
@CosineHyperbolic 3 роки тому
In response to your ending talk on content like this: Hell yes, please keep making genuine content, I love it.
@dallynsr
@dallynsr 3 роки тому
yea Jason, those that don't have the time for your details can skip to another video, but some of us(albeit maybe only a few) really dig this level of tuning and geekery. lol
@Liveordiebyinches
@Liveordiebyinches 3 роки тому
I enjoyed the video as well. That said... Dyno!
@JaleM
@JaleM 3 роки тому
I believe we all run to these problems at some point or another and it’s critical to keep an open mind to find a solution. This helps me mentally to appreciate that no problem is unsolvable👍
@BobPegram
@BobPegram 3 роки тому
I personally find it very interesting to see what the problem is and then the fix. Where did you get your initial SC tune from, Eldelbrock or the guy who supplied the working tune? Secondly, why were you blind to the idea of the throttle being controlled wrongly until the tune supplier mentioned it? You already knew that the Miata throttle is "by wire" rather than a direct connection from your foot on the gas pedal. My 7 yo Subaru has an annoying tip in because it goes full throttle from a dead stop. Darn hard to modulate! There is a fix but I haven't looked recently to see if someone made it EZ to do.
@HumbleMechanic
@HumbleMechanic 3 роки тому
Man SO HAPPY the issues are worked out. Great logical path dude. I LOVE IT!
@m.morininvestor9920
@m.morininvestor9920 3 роки тому
What other cars are light other than a mx5/ miata?
@calebkopitsky7611
@calebkopitsky7611 3 роки тому
M. Morin Investor the Fiata 🤷‍♂️
@bogdanchetraru2394
@bogdanchetraru2394 3 роки тому
@@m.morininvestor9920 Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ are a few hundred pounds heavier than the Miata, but they're still pretty light at just under 2800lbs
@Natuh21
@Natuh21 3 роки тому
@@m.morininvestor9920 My Nissan Micra SR has 2164.94 lbs and 109.48Hp, its not a slow car compared to most cars here in Brazil and its VERY fun to drive as its very small
@patrickmurphy8008
@patrickmurphy8008 3 роки тому
@@m.morininvestor9920 street legal, and enjoyable? A Radical brand open wheel car or an Ariel Atom open wheeler. Open wheel cars in general.
@BiglumpADV
@BiglumpADV 3 роки тому
Only recently discovered this channel but I have to say it's brilliant. I like engineering and I'm finding this too be a really easy consumed way off learning more about our cars and how they work. Keep it coming!
@EdgeAutosport
@EdgeAutosport 2 роки тому
We get cars in for tuning with similar issues all the time, and troubleshooting like you do here is so paramount! Love stumbling across even these old videos, keep up the great work!
@louiegolden
@louiegolden 3 роки тому
The best part of this video was the very end when you defended what this channel is all about. I’ve been watching for a few years and haven’t ever said anything but I thought this comment was appropriate.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Louie, really appreciate you watching and thanks for leaving your thoughts!
@dougmhenriksen
@dougmhenriksen 3 роки тому
I by far appreciate the diagnosis steps. I've known a few engineers that assume it's the fault of the people building vs. Actually doing root cause analysis. I like your reluctance to point the finger.
@kissmyaskew9844
@kissmyaskew9844 3 роки тому
@@EngineeringExplained For some folks out there maybe you should start another channel. Engineering Explained: EXPLAINED. 😉 Good work here. Kept expecting to see you start disassembling your new install only to find a clump of Humble Mechanics beard between mating surfaces causing a leak or entangled in BPV linkage,,,,🤣
@calebshonk5838
@calebshonk5838 3 роки тому
Most project-car videos only show the beginning, install and the perfect end result. They rarely delve much into the difficulties that come up during the installation and even less into the actual problem-solving process when something doesn't go to plan. In my experience, things rarely go to plan and most installs are not absolutely perfect (though functionally correct). Personally, I would rather see the process of diagnosing an actual problem than just the shiny end result. I thought this video was informative and helpful and I'm glad you took the time to really explain the problem and your line of thinking.
@mortisCZ
@mortisCZ 3 роки тому
Hear hear. I have to agree. It's much more interesting for me to solve an interesting headscratcher on any average van than just see a hypercar go into garage and turn 1000hp on a dyno after a cut. Those cars are nice and those numbers are awesome but we don't learn much about them witrhout context.:-)
@natemoothart6967
@natemoothart6967 3 роки тому
Yep! Rarely does a car show / YT show reveal just how much effort in a project car is tedious work, which admittedly is understandable as it's not that exciting. "And now he's going to remove the rear seat... Searching for the bolts... More looking... Googling! Wrong information, now he's swearing... OOooo that had to hurt! Okay... Going back in for another look... Wait! Wait! It's a lift out! Smiles all around! What's that? Ut oh! It may be a lift out but the other interior pieces are holding it in! Putting it back down and heading to a FB group to ask if he really has to remove so many other pieces just to get the seat out..." and so on and so on, haha!
@richhomiefire9787
@richhomiefire9787 3 роки тому
Nate Moothart if your looking for a youtube who always shows these things, and has like 4 project cars, go check out Robbie Ferreira!
@brunocorrea6010
@brunocorrea6010 3 роки тому
Always! In my own car, as example, I'm using an programable ECU from FuelTech. I was having issue with low throttle management, and after a long time fighting with the tuning, I figured out that was the place were I'm getting the intake manifold pressure were wrong and get too much turbulence while not on WOT. Changed the hose position, retuned and voila! Drives like a charm now!
@DragonKnightX12
@DragonKnightX12 Рік тому
This is why I really watching Donut's build. They show all of their mistakes, all the things that went wrong, and the steps to fix them.
@eric13hill
@eric13hill 3 роки тому
Your humility and disposition are refreshing. The greatest learners and teachers are the most humble. I enjoy learning from this type of person.
@teebonethom
@teebonethom 3 роки тому
Jason - this is *exactly* the type of content that got me interested and subscribed to your channel. I'm sure that it is increasingly hard to balance the the broader interests of your newer and growing UKposts audience with the more niche concerns of folks like me. Things like this teach how to troubleshoot, give up assumptions, and thinking through how thinks work in order to find out why they currently aren't; these are core engineering skills that apply to - well, everything. Your skill at this is what sets you apart - as I am sure you will see repeatedly in comments here - and is greatly appreciated. Keep up the great work!
@XvFenixvX
@XvFenixvX 3 роки тому
Did you try shutting it off and turning it on again?
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
So many times hahaha
@alansmilealot
@alansmilealot 3 роки тому
🖥️
@XvFenixvX
@XvFenixvX 3 роки тому
@@EngineeringExplained That's a real head scratcher then
@bassedd7620
@bassedd7620 3 роки тому
😂
@RizwanY37
@RizwanY37 3 роки тому
andrews yeah Jeremy clarksons fix, use a hammer to fix the throttle of an e39
@stephanM5
@stephanM5 3 роки тому
This was like watching a Sherlock Holmes mystery. It held my interest for the entire video. Learned something today. Thanks for sharing.
@garyvanremortel5218
@garyvanremortel5218 3 роки тому
When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.
@georgekurgansky5986
@georgekurgansky5986 3 роки тому
It made me appreciate cable throttle a lot!
@wpgspecb
@wpgspecb 3 роки тому
To anyone who had ever driven a dbw car or ever looked at logs the issue was apparent within the first 60 seconds.
@j_taylor
@j_taylor 3 роки тому
I watch these videos because I want to learn about tech and because it's such a joy to follow a skilled tech as he takes apart and understands a problem. It's not nearly as interesting to watch someone throw a dart and scream "GOAAAL." The best parts of my job are when I have to solve a problem where the obvious solutions won't work. It takes a lovely mix of technical understanding and creative thinking to analyze a difficult problem and build a solution. For example, sometimes the best solution bypasses the underlying problem in a way the original designer didn't expect. A good dart thrower identifies where to quickly score points. A skilled engineer adapts to the situation, uses what she finds, creates a solution, and can build it.
@dan428
@dan428 3 роки тому
Enjoyed seeing this as this is always the sort of thing that happens with projects.. something always doesn’t go as expected and you gotta figure out what’s wrong. Looking forward to seeing the results now (I have a Miata ND2)
@itsme2981
@itsme2981 3 роки тому
I'm excited you figured out what was happening! I've been in your shoes multiple times running different upgrades and sometimes seeing mechanical issues and tuning problems. I am anxious to see your driving experiences in this car soon!
@garyross7496
@garyross7496 3 роки тому
if something involving engineering is explained, that’s all we need 10/10 video
@RichardSShepherd
@RichardSShepherd 3 роки тому
Bother... just posted a very similar comment. But not worded as well as yours!
@ibast1
@ibast1 3 роки тому
Mechanical Issue: Spend half an hour finding it and 1.5 hours fixing it. "that was two hour fix". Electronics/software issue: Spend two days chasing it and 10 minutes fixing it. "That was a 10 minute fix. I'm so glad it wasn't a mechanical issue".
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 3 роки тому
But if you sell things, it makes a difference. Having to do repairs that take an hour and a half per car looks much worse than pushing out a software update that takes ten minutes, because they have the same problem ten thousand times.
@neilhuang9605
@neilhuang9605 3 роки тому
It's refreshing to see real engineering and problem solving at work. Thanks for showing us the process. I'm a software engineer and totally enjoyed your problem solving and investigating process. It shows that no matter what field of engineering you're in, the discipline and drive to solve problems remain the same. Well done!
@BigJnWorldWide
@BigJnWorldWide 3 роки тому
Great video! You took a logical approach to diagnosis. Sifting through datalogs was my favorite when I tuned my car. I ended up tuning it three more times to make sure I could repeat the process. The things I learned just by watching the logs and how the car reacts during certain events really taught me a lot.
@98dizzard
@98dizzard 3 роки тому
11:36 ah yes, that well known mechanics trick. Wave the OBD connector at the engine to threaten it into behaving.
@daszieher
@daszieher 3 роки тому
Ha! More like dangling a pendulum, hoping esoterics will "heal" the problem :D
@mgreene1409
@mgreene1409 3 роки тому
😂😂😂
@henryvanderwilp9240
@henryvanderwilp9240 3 роки тому
Not sure if I'm more impressed with the actual engineering that has went into this kit, or the fact that he is humble enough to not only admit that he didn't know what was wrong, but actually vlog'd his troubleshooting process. We all learn from others. (Unless your name is either Orville or Wilbur... those guys truly learned things by themselves). Awesome project sir. Cant wait for the dyno pulls.
@CountDopensteine
@CountDopensteine 3 роки тому
I actually like how you ran through the entire problem solving process. Its almost like I did it myself, and learned something
@Bizzare_Kentucky_Sky
@Bizzare_Kentucky_Sky 3 роки тому
Must say truly appreciate learning something new in how important it is when YOU tune your vehicle. I might not have the same car but I do drive a turbocharged 6.5 diesel engine and man let me tell you keeping the proper tune is everything because I have ran into problems I'd never think about. So thank you for taking the time because a fine tune is something that should never be rushed and for always thinking outside of the box!
@joestiffcock2480
@joestiffcock2480 3 роки тому
''sadly shifting in my garage'' Story of my life and cars..
@aadriohno
@aadriohno 3 роки тому
me during isolation
@danielzapien24
@danielzapien24 3 роки тому
same, i felt that so heavily lol
@kindaFunkyNGL
@kindaFunkyNGL 3 роки тому
I really appreciate getting to see the thought process in solving a problem rather than the beginning and end results so for taking all of us though that journey, thank you.
@Merck202
@Merck202 3 роки тому
Your channel is awesome brother! I've been working on cars for over 20 years and there is always something new to learn. That is the nature of an ever evolving industry and I'm glad that there's info like your videos to soak up new scenarios. Thank you sir!
@CosRacecar
@CosRacecar 3 роки тому
You, sir, are a saint. There are far too many youtubers who would title this video "Company X WRECKED my car!"
@funnystertzk
@funnystertzk 3 роки тому
CoreyO dde be like my car is broken and can’t fix
@johnm1925
@johnm1925 3 роки тому
"All your data are belong to us" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 He's a total nerd and i love it. One of us, one of us!
@dan725
@dan725 3 роки тому
Oh man... can you believe that the song/video/meme is now 20 years old?!
@aXc000
@aXc000 3 роки тому
What you say!!
@ventzp2133
@ventzp2133 3 роки тому
You have no chance to survive make your time!!
@drsonicify
@drsonicify 3 роки тому
Maybe he get signal
@z1sania
@z1sania 3 роки тому
agree... spit my coffeee ahahaha
@fourage5995
@fourage5995 3 роки тому
Please keep doing these in depth videos. I've been watching your videos nearly as long as you've been making them. Probably a contributing factor as to why I've gone back to university to study engineering!
@TypeVertigo
@TypeVertigo 3 роки тому
Came into the video thinking it was a tuning problem. After hearing you rule out all other possible causes, I'm fairly impressed I got it right :) Nice to see that it turned out to be something a little simpler and more basic, and kudos for really getting into the diagnostic nitty-gritty.
@fourthhorseman4531
@fourthhorseman4531 3 роки тому
For those considering after-market forced induction: when I did my first supercharger install (on my '03 Mercury Marauder) I tried several different vendors for tuning and it was a really eye-opening experience at just how much impact the programming had to just about every aspect of the car's operation. I mean, intellectually you know it, but actually experiencing it is something else. I cannot stress this highly enough: go with somebody to do your tuning that has a proven track record of success with your model of car and that is highly reputable. This is not an area you can save money on and have success. Great video man, thank you!
@Saml01
@Saml01 3 роки тому
Woh! I had no idea anyone was supercharging these. Is this an off the shelf kit?
@2011chitsazzadeha
@2011chitsazzadeha 3 роки тому
You can save money on it by just doing it yourself.
@TheMrMiao
@TheMrMiao 3 роки тому
Would I be able to do this in California?
@lupavo1738
@lupavo1738 3 роки тому
@@Saml01 It's basically a Ford Mustang GT of the same year, it's literally the same engine so I'd imagine its the same kit.
@padraigomadain6681
@padraigomadain6681 3 роки тому
Brilliant insight man, I respect the fact that you actually went in depth without the blame game and didn't give up on asking questions and actually learning and sharing that experience. Brilliant vid and look forward to enjoying more of your content and learning from your hiccups along the way.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Happy to hear it, thanks for watching! :)
@sirpants4282
@sirpants4282 3 роки тому
I appreciate the detail and time that you took to make this. You were my first subbed channel and I'm glad to have stuck around to continue viewing your content. Thank you.
@Cataclysm1
@Cataclysm1 3 роки тому
Having installed a supercharger on my S197 Mustang, and dealt with many tuning issues (and still fight some), I really appreciate this video. The struggle is real, when one starts modifying cars.
@dil6969
@dil6969 3 роки тому
I feel your pain, Jason. I did a clutch on my '91 in November of last year. I put it back together and a month later my throw out bearing is squeaking, the expensive FM clutch started chattering and it still had an oil drip. Just because you used good parts and invested a lot of time and care doesn't mean the car will be better when you're done. The automotive world is a cruel mistress. That said. You did great though going down the list and doing some proper diagnosis and not just busting out the parts cannon. Modifying cars to this level requires a lot of patience and care.
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Cruel indeed! And agreed on diagnosis, very important step rather than just replacing things that may or may not be broken. Ugh, hope things go well with your 91! Great car.
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed 3 роки тому
I just put my trans back in, I dont trust it 😩
@binderbinder6920
@binderbinder6920 3 роки тому
Did you replace the throw out bearing at the same time, why the aftermarket clutch? And the oil leak ? Rear main seal ?
@mathieulevasseur4082
@mathieulevasseur4082 3 роки тому
It's frustrating how wrenching on cars can be a Russian roulette. Sometimes I just slap things in place and it just works and other times I take every single precaution yet something goes wrong.
@NoWr2Run
@NoWr2Run 3 роки тому
@@Smokkedandslammed Sorry but, LMFAO.
@umad42
@umad42 3 роки тому
I appreciate a real deep dive into "Something broke, lets find the actual cause"
@BirdiesGoCherp
@BirdiesGoCherp 3 роки тому
That last segment of the video about how you enjoy figuring things out and how you dedicated this as an educational channel really got me. You've been explaining stuff to us for years, you've been dedicated to doing this for years. While I don't hate new subscribers, I hate people who subscribe then boldly and rudely ask you to change your content to fit their liking. I love your content even though I'm not very mechanically inclined (I'm a med student) but I thoroughly enjoy physics and basically understanding how things function and the mechanisms behind it. Thanks for the content Jason! All the support!
@valentin4155
@valentin4155 3 роки тому
I started doing my own diagnosis and came up with all the scenerios of why it was not function properly and also thought of the throttle position before you revealed it as the culprit. I luv engineering and love science and so happy it helps me problem solve better.
@Phil60084
@Phil60084 3 роки тому
Me: spends 2 weeks straight in the garage and a bunch of money to make my car faster My wife after 2 weeks: Yay! You're done is your car faster? Me again : Nope way slower.. My wife: tight....
@nicoleyensen7062
@nicoleyensen7062 3 роки тому
many divorce
@sean8081a
@sean8081a 3 роки тому
A great comment i heard in the stands at the dragstrip 'that's slower than stock' lol.
@bassmunk
@bassmunk 3 роки тому
Making your car slower is TIGHT! LOL
@seban678
@seban678 3 роки тому
Please ignore the "get to the driving/dyno" comments... There are loads of videos on this platform you can go watch of cars making noise and burning tires. This is an engineering education channel, as the name makes pretty clear, and that's what I come here for. As an ex-engineer turned mechanic, this is gold content for me, and I'm obviously not alone. Maybe the comments don't reflect that very well, because comments are usually more of a way to complain about stuff than point out the good. So if I may speak for myself and people like me: We like figuring things out, seeing machines/technology working (or not), looking at spreadsheets to understand what happens where we can't see, and fixing issues or optimizing things. The graph that comes out of the dyno is a lot more exciting to me than watching the test happen. I wish there was more supercharging Miatas involved in my day job, so for me this is basically mechanic escapist entertainment that is also educational. It's freakin' great.
@andycocchia4202
@andycocchia4202 3 роки тому
totally agree man.
@victorn6065
@victorn6065 3 роки тому
This!
@stevebrown4734
@stevebrown4734 3 роки тому
Spot on and came here to say same. This episode had me glued to find out the solution to the missing power mystery.
@lnrbry
@lnrbry 3 роки тому
Entirely agree. I too was an old school "just adjust the carb and twist the distributer" guy right up until i started learning about long term fuel trims and volumetric efficiency. Now i am knee deep in mega squirt.
@seban678
@seban678 3 роки тому
@@lnrbry Thanks! "Knee deep in mega squirt" is also one of my favorite movies.
@tylers82
@tylers82 3 роки тому
This is one of my favorite channels. Mainly because Jason lives up to the name of the channel. He explains very well. Great video sir!
@ratboyiscool
@ratboyiscool 3 роки тому
This is great content. I much prefer learning how you went about researching and solving the problem then just giving the end result. Thanks for taking the time to show us everything you did!
@psychosis7325
@psychosis7325 3 роки тому
"What position is your throttle?" "Well duh, my foots all the way to th...... DOH!!!" Great, brilliant, amazing video. Vehicle diagnostics is a pain and the value of a good mechanic is so under appreciated at times, number of O2 sensors I have seen replaced for a manifold leak where someone checked their air filter and left a vac line off is crazy... They were only just introducing throttle by wire on mass in Aus when I left mechanics, can only imagine how few people would have the skills to diagnose this over the phone. Hope you brought that bloke a 6 pack ;) I had a L67 with similar charging setup and racked my brain the whole time video ran and was stumped, thought it has to be an air flow/pressure issue possibly caused by tune and even focused on the throttle and seen it was electronic but it didn't click until you said he asked what the TP was >.
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 роки тому
Yup, and the amount of customer frustration and money that's wasted by just replacing parts (like o2 sensors and even ecu's) without first figuring out WHY that code is triggered is so common. A scenario like throwing 3 o2's on a car, a couple other expensive parts, and a computer when looking at the data shows wildly off fuel trims from some other issue. Data is key.
@zachyoung5598
@zachyoung5598 3 роки тому
I have to say, Jason would have to be the person to do a phone diagnosis for. He brings all the data and a fundamental understanding of the operation principles. With most other folks it's just "My car no go vroom anymore. What's wrong with it?"
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 роки тому
Like most things you get to know a shortlist of fixes with different problem diagnosis... as for digital, get the flow charts.
@Foxlawl
@Foxlawl 3 роки тому
My favorite part of this is that today, I watched his throttle body video (Engine Hang), then the SC installation video, and then this one, in that order.
@Thesaviorsway
@Thesaviorsway 3 роки тому
Sadly shifting in my garage. Way to go quarantine. :(
@kjyu
@kjyu 3 роки тому
@Gabriel Godina hoax virus huh? tell that to 11+ millions who got infected
@Thesaviorsway
@Thesaviorsway 3 роки тому
I'm not trying to have a debate start I'm just trying to comment and sympathize with those who choose to stay home that I understand their frustration or sadness and those who are free to choose to drive outside also or refuse to.
@nairbyad7188
@nairbyad7188 3 роки тому
@@kjyu do your own research and stop beLIEving the presstitutes
@stevenyia2778
@stevenyia2778 3 роки тому
@@killdizzle the government knows best I guess 😏😂😂
@DrKampfpudding
@DrKampfpudding 3 роки тому
Where TF to you live to still have quarantine
@BWGPEI
@BWGPEI 3 роки тому
My tuning goes back to a pair of SU carbs, thus I found this most interesting. Another fine job of explaining whilst telling a great story. May you live long and prosper!
@juanse2912
@juanse2912 3 роки тому
Man, this is just an amazing way to show the process of a project car. As an automotive engineer student I really appreciate your content.
@gowron6453
@gowron6453 3 роки тому
I did driveability when I was a mechanic, having a computer background I've always enjoyed the data and looking for data point to find the issue...I really enjoyed this video (I generally enjoy all of your videos) as you didn't just drive it, you showed the data, theorized what the problem might be, found out you were wrong, but you were "man" enough to seek assistance when you needed it, admitted you were wrong, and learned from the experience..that is great!
@jasononymous99
@jasononymous99 3 роки тому
JASON I would like to remind everyone else this channel is called "Engineering Explained" not "Dyno tune a drift sessions". If that Dosent sum up what you are getting into when watching you have bigger problems. You are amazing and so is this channel keep on Explaining bro!
@tiderfish
@tiderfish 3 роки тому
I for one appreciate you not glossing over or omitting the troubleshooting done for this problem.
@richardcollman2064
@richardcollman2064 2 роки тому
I much prefer being educated in how things work than just seeing them being used. I applaud your dedication - thank you!
@superchargedpetrolhead
@superchargedpetrolhead 3 роки тому
The first thing that came to mind when you said there is boost at sometime and no boost at other time was " this problem has something to do with throttle body ". well i guess my automobile engineering degree is not that useless...
@djsomeguy
@djsomeguy 3 роки тому
I was in the camp of boost leak when I started watching...usually such low AFR's mean loss of metered air somewhere and coming it at higher RPM was suspecting a faster ramp up of boost was "opening" the leak, although that's more common to the characteristics of a turbocharger than a supercharger. Now what I'm curious about is what was actually wrong with the tune that kept the throttle open when accelerating from lower RPM. I can't think of anything in the typical tables that would cause the throttle to behave that way. (Did my own tuning on my former Mazdaspeed 3 with Cobb Accessport)
@CaptainCandycorn
@CaptainCandycorn 3 роки тому
When I started watching the immediate thing I thought was the tune isn't right.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 роки тому
@@djsomeguy Almost, same symptoms...
@TheGhostTrollekdejvu
@TheGhostTrollekdejvu 3 роки тому
The fact that a simple calibration fixed the issue probably means they thrown off the calibration of the TB during the whole disassembly and instillation process, maybe gave it a cleaned.
@michaelblacktree
@michaelblacktree 3 роки тому
_"It wouldn't be a proper project car, if there weren't some headaches along the way."_ My Jetta is definitely a proper project car. 🤨
@rogerj412
@rogerj412 3 роки тому
So is my TDi wagon. Right now the issue is how to stop the damn panoramic glass roof from leaking.
@javierherrera8782
@javierherrera8782 3 роки тому
My 95 std celica has me broken....but because I was already poor and I love it!
@rogerhinman5427
@rogerhinman5427 3 роки тому
As is my Mustang and it was somebody else's project car just to make it even more interesting.
@crazeguy26
@crazeguy26 3 роки тому
my W202 is a one gear wonder.
@johnlee1009
@johnlee1009 3 роки тому
my POS 1995 miata. I'm learning a lot by diagnosing all these problems.
@cinematiccomix8800
@cinematiccomix8800 3 роки тому
You are absolutely right! When it comes to fixing or putting a car together, no one, ESPECIALLY on UKposts, has all the answers right away. Sometimes there are mistakes or the need of an extra pair of hands to get things done. You're helping educate so that when we have a similar issue, we can get to the solution much faster. And I thank you for that man. Keep up the good work 👍
@kasmodean9355
@kasmodean9355 3 роки тому
I am glad you didn't cut this episode. I wish there was more well explanted troubleshooting videos out there.
@shoarectube
@shoarectube 3 роки тому
I really like the whole story approach! Keep it up!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Happy to hear it! Thought it was a pretty interesting story, always something to learn!
@qpSubZeroqp
@qpSubZeroqp 3 роки тому
I agree. Great way to approach this explanation
@tavarish
@tavarish 3 роки тому
Your waternator's busted
@suryaprakash0499
@suryaprakash0499 3 роки тому
Due to his questionable choice made after watching wrench everday
@fiqirr
@fiqirr 3 роки тому
Duh.. thats why he wasnt seeing any blinker fluid pressure
@Grr8xtc
@Grr8xtc 3 роки тому
I love this kind of content. Thanks 👍
@austinsears1637
@austinsears1637 3 роки тому
@@fiqirr Oh, no, no, no no no! Just no! If he properly calibrates his muffler bearings in accordance with governing limits, it's going to run fine as fine whine, whine with cheese even maybe!!!
@topvideos6166
@topvideos6166 3 роки тому
I think you are waiting him to say my car for sale 🤣
@elementor100
@elementor100 3 роки тому
I was watching the minutes pass by and you weren't near to say how you solved it, but my breathing finally got back by the of the video, great content!
@atlucas1
@atlucas1 3 роки тому
Jason I'll be honest I don't watch a lot of your videos all the way through. But I love troubleshooting too, so I was glued to this one. Looking forward to the dyno runs, keep up the good work!
@cbsboyer
@cbsboyer 3 роки тому
"From failing you learn, from success not so much" - Billie Robinson, Meet The Robinsons
@f-s-r
@f-s-r 3 роки тому
I can only imagine your expression when asked "what's your throttle position?", lol! :D
@IIIMoodyIII
@IIIMoodyIII 3 роки тому
Did you try turning it off and on again?
@JOutterbridge
@JOutterbridge 3 роки тому
"Maybe i'm broken" What a great end to the video😂
@afesquivel
@afesquivel 3 роки тому
@@JOutterbridge All engineerings are "broken" somehow, but we don't want to address that problem, that is why we look for other problems to fix thinking that in some indirect way we will get "fixed" ... or not.
@xPewz
@xPewz 3 роки тому
Glad it got sorted out! I'm down for more content like this! It feels genuine and I for one like to hear the troubleshooting and fixing! Keep it comming!
@Ed70Nova427
@Ed70Nova427 3 роки тому
Thank you for going through the diagnostic issue to the end. This is what I do for a living and some people think it's magic or the mechanic is automatically supposed to know what is wrong as soon as they tell you the issue, give you the "Code" or hand you the keys. Very clearly described step by step and no bs results. Sometimes as a mechanic I will be watching one of these videos and say "Hey wait! That's not right!". And some guys end with results like "It is what it is". But this was clearly diagnosed and you used all the tools available to you and one of the best tools is not being to proud to ask questions. Questions always trigger a new thought pattern even if the answer you get wasn't correct. I don't remember when I subscribed to your channel but I haven't seen one, I didn't like. Keep doing it just the way your doing it and thank you again.
@Dunwelll
@Dunwelll 3 роки тому
Yeah, I'm happy you walked us through your process. Disregard the comments saying "get to the good stuff!" All your content are belong to us
@canadatransistor
@canadatransistor 3 роки тому
The content of this video kept me on the edge of my seat. I had a feeling something was up with the explanation of bypass valve. Great stuff - stick to your presentation format! "Give me the answer people in 10 seconds or less" isn't your target audience.
@gnmatsu
@gnmatsu 3 роки тому
Yes. Problem solving is a skill and it is always great to see the path people have gone through to discover what the set backs have been. Well done.
@carlossalizar9185
@carlossalizar9185 3 роки тому
I love when you explain, i came to this channel to learn. And I've learnt so much
@ddpwe5269
@ddpwe5269 3 роки тому
"Maybe because I'm broken" lol awww Jason, I love all the videos you release. Extremely educational, even to a layperson such as myself when it comes to vehicles. Keep up the great work and don't worry about all the greedy people, this is your channel and you'll always have viewers with you as long as you enjoy what you do as well! =)
@blackfly29er
@blackfly29er 3 роки тому
+1. The longest lasting lessons are learned by mistakes.
@terencedavis6811
@terencedavis6811 3 роки тому
For sure! There are many of us broken people who like both sides of the engineering - just keep doing what you're doing. I love it.
@DanielGarcia-nh1ok
@DanielGarcia-nh1ok 3 роки тому
Well, on my first year on engineering school one teacher said: "an engineer is a guy that solves problems, not replaces them". So this vid is a perfect example of that.
@82raptor
@82raptor 3 роки тому
On my first day at tech school I learned how to fix all of the crap designs you engineers make!
@DanielGarcia-nh1ok
@DanielGarcia-nh1ok 3 роки тому
@@82raptor our designs are fine, you just broke them :P Ps: dont get mad, im just doing a (bad) joke xd
@renaldobryan1047
@renaldobryan1047 3 роки тому
I dont think there is anyone who wants you to rush through your explanations. Keep up the great work
@doctortruth4094
@doctortruth4094 3 роки тому
Wonderful job explaining this situation. You have the humility of a person who learns and by doing so, teaches.
@ruidiasbraga
@ruidiasbraga 3 роки тому
I have learned so much with this video. good storytelling, details, technical info, good problem-solving thinking. nice job!
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Thanks Rui, happy to hear it - appreciate you watching!
@daan5918
@daan5918 3 роки тому
As a former car mechanic and enthousiast this level of problem solving warms my heart
@ssaafur
@ssaafur 2 роки тому
Really enjoyed the process you went through and it’s refreshing to see you humbled by it. I too embrace learning through trial and error. I used to have a MazdaSpeed G1 that was a project car in every way. I miss the platform and now I’m thinking MX/5 so thank you. Great content!
@motorcyclethings6347
@motorcyclethings6347 3 роки тому
This just further proves how powerful of a tool dataloging can be. Thank you for sharing!
@_M27_
@_M27_ 3 роки тому
Is it just me or does this feel like a smarter everyday moment
@Lianpe98
@Lianpe98 3 роки тому
Now I know the right place to plug in the computer
@EngineeringExplained
@EngineeringExplained 3 роки тому
Just throw it around, it'll work out!
@twochillywolf
@twochillywolf 3 роки тому
Explaining your previous understandings, and then if necessary, corrections on those thoughts afterwards. It is a humble approach and an excellent educational process. You create a positive atmosphere! Great video.
@ZealothPL
@ZealothPL 3 роки тому
"what's wrong with my miata?" There is a supercharger stuck to it m8 *This message has been brought to you by Turbo Gang* Really liked the explanation of a thought process
@TheDemonican
@TheDemonican 3 роки тому
My Turbocharged ND Miata makes 210whp... its waaay faster than the Supercharger kit.
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 3 роки тому
@@TheDemonican But when you buy a car that's all about the handling and then put an aftermarket turbo on it you kind of missed the point. Plus turbocharging a NA motor requires a lot more modifications, usually including a whole new aftermarket engine management system to go along with it, meaning driving the car permanently with the dash all lit up and half the infotainment systems not working any more. In short, it's for the type of people who rip the door panels off their car and are happy to drive around on the public road in a literal steel cage with an engine and wheels.
@AliasProductions801
@AliasProductions801 3 роки тому
TheDemonican it’s a 12 hp difference. Calm down
@rragnus
@rragnus 3 роки тому
man I wish I had a project car but having space for parts and equipment to work on the car are must have I suppose
@fearloathinginvegas
@fearloathinginvegas 3 роки тому
I live in an apartment and i have a project car. I started with harbor freight tools, and sticking the parts on my balcony. Its not an easy life and i cant do everything still, so i utilize a mechanic for the stuff i dont have tools or room for.
@jarekpszuk6944
@jarekpszuk6944 3 роки тому
On Hoonigan channel there is a home wrenchers episode where one of the guys, called Suppy, made an engine swap of an ls v8 into FD rx-7 in a shed that barely fits the car itself. It's more difficult but surely possible.
@armoule8596
@armoule8596 3 роки тому
As a wise man once said, it can be easily done at home with common hand tools
@fearloathinginvegas
@fearloathinginvegas 3 роки тому
@Brett Collins yeah im lucky cuz my neighbors work on their cars too. I just avoid making loud noises late at night lol
@joshkiej6601
@joshkiej6601 3 роки тому
You can always see if a friend has the space to store yours... And tools are definitely a must but you dont need snap-on, just get some cheap stuff
@christophersmith879
@christophersmith879 3 роки тому
Thanks for yet another lesson. My first thought was the bypass valve. You have taught me more than school ever did. And it's free information 😁. Keep up the good work
@fafhrd0023
@fafhrd0023 3 роки тому
Really appreciate the video. Watching others, such as yourself, going through their problem analysis steps opens me up to different ideas and techniques, and hopefully we all get better at such things.
@balinx
@balinx 3 роки тому
“ i was wrong by the way ” - said with such passion. could be a great motto / tag line edit: this a great video. Thank you
@RadioactvPanda
@RadioactvPanda 3 роки тому
Thank you for showing us your problems! It's something that is probably hard to show but I learn the most with these kinds of videos.
@cavemanken7029
@cavemanken7029 3 роки тому
I love this style of content. It would be so awesome if you did more of the day-to-day life of your project cars, while also sharing all your knowledge!
@ruifplsilva
@ruifplsilva 3 роки тому
The satisfaction behind a solved big issue is phenomenal! Great video! Congrats 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@TastyTacoN1nja
@TastyTacoN1nja 3 роки тому
All at once a million boomers cried out, "glad I've got a throttle cable!"
@TheDrAkira
@TheDrAkira 3 роки тому
hahhahhaha xD
@bakervanbv299
@bakervanbv299 3 роки тому
Boomers? I'm 17 and I'm glad my 924 has a cable lol
@epicshooter1
@epicshooter1 3 роки тому
And they would be wrong. The TPS (Throttle position sensor) has been around since the invent of fuel injection. Plenty of mechanical throttle bodies with manual throttle cables use them. Back as far as the 80s.
@calebkopitsky7611
@calebkopitsky7611 3 роки тому
Agreed... although I’m just 16 and recently started driving a manual, which has made me wish it just had a simple throttle cable... or that I didn’t watch EE’s video on electric throttle bodies with manuals which has MADE ME NOTICE IT CONSTANTLY
@icin4d
@icin4d 3 роки тому
Being a boomer doesn't make a difference when tuning. These types of sensory electronics have been around for decades.
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