"I write in an ecological way... recycling, plagiarizing myself" LMAO

Loved Cornell West's point that what really concerns us is not "evil" in itself, but catastrophe -- evil without harm would simply be an idiosyncrasy, good that harms a frustrating tragedy.

"(Slavoj,) You are kind & gentle." - Dr Cornel West. Such wonderful, beautiful, utterly remarkable respect in this conversation. All the love in the world.

On the topic of Western Buddhism Zezek mentions around 50:00 it's worth noting that D.T. Suzuki the Japanese author who was Alan Watt's greatest influence (and thus the West's) had a history of trying to fit Buddhism with Imperial Japan's quest for military dominance over Asia. In other words Buddhism, despite its genuine commitment to compassion, is an ideology that can be reformed to fit dark outcomes.

We need to get all of these talks together and make an open access box set to Zizeks talks, people will one day talk about Zizek the way he talks about Hegel and Marx.

Not all intellectuals are of the same quality and Žižek is a rare earth mineral.

IDC what happens Cornell West IS MY POTUS! Omg, could you even imagine how much better it would be???? It's almost unfathomable. Also as a student of Zizek, there is nothing that brings me greater joy than having these legitimate TITANS of intellect in conversation with one another. Absolutely brilliant, I love them both so much. Powerful.

Thank you. This was fantastic. I was riveted from beginning to end. Cornell West is masterful. His public political rhetoric does not reveal his scholarly depth and integrity. What I would give to work and study with him!

thanks for the upload

22:57 they're finally on stage

Best audio for a workout… I love these two and hearing ideas.

This was fantastic!

Cornell West is a poet of the finest order. These two are so unique in their personal histories, idiosyncratic worldviews, and their very particular use of language. To me it seems clear West (who grew up in the baptist tradition) is there to posit a theologically Christian/leftist position in contrast to zizeks atheistic Christianity... Absolutely wonderful.

I enjoyed this

It’s amazing how much more coherent Zizek is when you sit him next to West

Fabulous

My wife and I would love to go to a lecture by Zizek … actually it would be amazing … are these lectures open to the public? How do we know if there will be more lectures? And if they are open are they expensive? Any information would be appreciated… Thanks.

god bless them all

omg Zizek is visibly uncomfortable being so close to Cornel, it's so funny he's too introverted

I love the moderator letting Zizek and Cornel West sit next to each other

Thanks for full post of this 🙏 dream team

Woohoo! With video!

I love West on the blues man... so beautiful

[Zizek rambles for 5 minutes] Dr. West: OK but how does that connect to what we were talking about?

"How is that point connected to what we were talking about?" wins the the conversation. lol :)

Yes.

Can you include the date in the description?

When was this recorded?

The more I hear Cornel West the more I think he is extremely clever and wise.

Theologically, Mammon is what Jesus called Capitalism. Jesus only made one dichotomous statement, you cannot serve both God and Mammon. He only gave one criteria of righteousness for nations, and that, as spelled out in the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, is how that nation system treats the poor and oppressed.

a wind blows through the room and it seems to be saying "marcuuuuuse"

When did this talk happen?

1:33:47 "slavoj, you have one minute" "less"

What a mind Žižek is!

God, in the story is a powerful person, and is like a cat who enjoys torturing the mouse, Job. Compassionate and empathetic people have a hard time understanding that sadistic people are common and often find their place in power.

love cornel west!

The idea of god as an old guy who will take care of us is alive and well in the US presidential campaign of 2024.

I wish Zizek listened to West more attentively. He is only half-listening.

@1:44:20

1:22:31 was so cute 😮🥹😌

20 minutes of introduction. I loved the words on Palestine and I’d recommend listening to it but for those wanting to get to the meat, so you know. Much respect all these people. Love you, Free Palestine!

Talk @ 23

Love West, but thank god he will never hold any political office. His views on subjects he knows little about are just that, pedestrian😅

The most popular dogma/religion in the world that allows everyday humans to co-exist with catastrophe is football/soccer.

27

Cornell West seems like a lovely person but when he's speaking it just feels like lots of random statements without any coherent meaning.

The Multiverse (only hypotesis that can explain everything) is Eternal and Infinite and ultimately the true, unavoidable, only "God" as the Only Source of everything that exists or we believe exists ! Not an extremely low level, imperfect, human-like "God", a human Concept, "Creator" of imperfect things. A Multiverse (Set of Universes) remains a SINGLE UNIVERSE composed of multiple universes (like ours, which could be inside a Black Hole - who can prove otherwise? -), ETERNAL and INFINITE that is continuously TRANSFORMING or evolving and manifests itself in many, infinite different ways, whatever they are called or perceived by us: Human Beings, Animals, Rocks, Water, Fire, Air, Planets, Asteroids, Suns, Stars, Galaxies, Clusters (of Galaxies), Quasars, Black Holes, Dark Energy, Dark Matter, Singularities, etc... The Universe or Multiverse only transforms: It is PURE ENERGY... Remember Einstein's proven equation: E = mc2, which shows that E, Energy, is the same as mass (or what we believe or perceive as "solid" matter) multiplied by the square of the speed of light, a very large number. Or put another way, what we believe to be "matter", what we can "touch" is actually PURE ENERGY somehow interconnected with the rest of the Universe or Multiverse. If you think you can "touch" matter, use an ever increasingly powerful microscope: Body, cells, molecules, atoms... And do you think you can see or "touch" an atom? NO ! It has subparticles: Electrons, protons, neutrons... And do you think you can see or "touch" them? NO ! They in turn include other quantum untouchable "particles" that are elusive... because they are PURE ENERGY! Ask the scientists of CERN Accelerator in Switzerland... It is impossible to prove it because it is and will be far beyond our limited intellectual and technological capabilities, but it does not make sense that the Multiverse or God, however you prefer to imagine it has a Beginning or an End in time... or any physical LIMIT. What can lie BEYOND the "physical limit" of the Multiverse? Well, ANOTHER Universe or type of Universe. That is, we would be facing a new Multiverse. And what could have existed BEFORE the BIG BANG? Well, another Universe or Multiverse... And once ours cools down (which is what is happening with ALL the stars burning their limited nuclear energy source) and perhaps it WILL COLLAPSE into a SINGULARITY or Black Hole and then maybe (Who could prove it or refute it?) give rise to another "Big Bang". That is, our Universe is... ETERNAL And most importantly: That Universe or Multiverse is... GOD or "Creator" of everything we observe! A God who does not reward, punish, monitor or "prefer" anyone. "He" does not condemn anyone to suffer eternally in "hell" (which does not exist!). A God not concerned about anyone, much less these imperfect human beings, absolutely insignificant: INSIGNIFICANT for the Earth, in turn insignificant for the Solar System, this one for the Milky Way Galaxy, totally insignificant for a Cluster of Galaxies, and this Cluster, insignificant for the known Universe and perhaps for a Multiverse, which is the most likely "thing" that exists. So, forget all those fears or feelings of "guilt" (of WHAT?) that you learned or were brainwashed since you were a child, convince yourself there is NO afterlife (where to?) because all of our cells DIE and desintegrate into dispersed molecules and then "atoms" that eventually will disperse randomly and help create, combined with others, new stars that will in turn "die", collapse and explode as super novas releasing new atoms to create new stars...and... ENJOY your LIFE... or "delusion" of life... or whatever it is...👍 !

I've held West in high regard (Zizek in much higher even), but him crediting Finkelstein's "work" shows a failure in understanding, scholarship and reading character. Norman is something like an Al Sharpton in his field. An utter buffoon with massive arrogance and a sense of self-importance that clouds every word they say and write.

Maaan, the tone is way too dramatic (except for Zizek), I'm having trouble hearing the words and their meaning.

Look at the body language 1:12 where West puts his hands on Žižek who tries to distance himself from West physically trying to dominate him, vis a vis primate dominance behavior.

Philosophers became comedians. There are no thoughts or ideas, but there is a desire to make the audience laugh.