Pro Safecracker Fact Checks Safecracking in Movies

Pro Safecracker Fact Checks Safecracking in Movies | Vanity Fair

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Professional safecracker Dave McOmie fact checks safecracking scenes from movies and television including 'Army of Thieves,' 'The Italian Job,' 'The Thieves,' 'The Score,' 'Thief' and 'Fast Five' and analyzes their probability, craft, and execution.
Dave's book "Safecracker: A Chronicle of the Coolest Job in the World" is available here: www.amazon.com/Safecracker-Ch...
00:00 Intro
00:55 'Army of Thieves'
04:30 'The Italian Job'
09:47 'The Thieves'
12:47 'The Score'
16:02 'Thief'
17:47 'Fast Five'
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@SangTheCryptek 2 роки тому

I love that this guy was shown the clip of the Italian Job and went, "Wait...is that possible?" and actually tried cracking a submerged dial and shared his personal experience with the experiment. Obvious passion to his craft.

@simptrix007 2 роки тому

Someone bath with rubber duck someone with vault dial :/

@zackkertzman7709 Рік тому

"Mosler No. 10 you're the one! Making bath time with me fun!..."

@gregdeandrea1450 Рік тому

Points to the flick too for forcing the experiment!

@terryandreasen5160 2 роки тому

Having started my career the same time as Dave, and having known Dave for almost 4 decades now I can attest to this man's legitimacy. I own one of the largest safe and vault companies west of the Mississippi and talk with Dave at least once each month. Sometimes it's just personal, most of the time it's discussing real world safe and vault problems. Dave McOmie is the real thing. His business card should say: "have boroscope, will travel" ! Great job Dave, well done. Looking forward to seeing you in May.

@thebatonmaster 2 роки тому

"have boroscope, will travel" 🤣🤣

@0ddSavant 2 роки тому

TL;DR This made my day. Thank you for the beautiful and humanizing note. -- I appreciate you taking the time to write your above comment. Bonus points for not including the name of your company. By making it all about Dave McOmie, you made a classy move rarely seen these days . It seems everybody is hocking something or shilling for someone, but your comment was just goodwill and acknowledgment. I’ma thumbs up you, then remove it, then thumbs up you again. Good looking out. Cheers!

@jtj9609 2 роки тому

What's this guy's job? Security contractor? Former thieve? Both?

@homedepot. 2 роки тому

@@jtj9609 not trying to be a douche but thief*

@Harkness78 Рік тому

Nice shill attempt, keep it to yourself

@KarlBunker Рік тому

A book by a locksmith that I once read pointed out that movies often show a safecracker opening a combination lock faster than someone who actually _knew the combination_ could possibly have opened it. OTOH, I'm shocked to hear that a Fast & Furious movie was unrealistic. Shocked, I say.

@PowuhToSeven Рік тому

I had to put my plans away for that one

@nelsblair2667 Рік тому

I once opened a safe in a sensitive location on my first turn of the dial by a few digits. I was there to reveal a potential vulnerability but instead revealed that it had already been exploited. My observer and I were each immediately uncomfortable. He was there for a lock hardware related reason and I doubt that this situation was ever properly reported, despite my sincere efforts.

@hansolowe19 2 роки тому

Interesting. The guy was honest, didn't mince words. I like him.

@julioschwarzbeck5529 2 роки тому

I've known Dave for over a decade, for all the comments about how knowledgeable he is, or how engaging his conversation is, you can add that he himself is an incredible humble human being, he could be talking about how paint dries, and we'd be as immersed in that conversation as we were in this video, congrats neighbor!

@since1876 Рік тому

My paint usually dries with large blobs running down. Gravity sucks. 😡

@Whitepaint 2 роки тому

"They take 30-40 minutes", then you hear in the background, "This is the lock picking lawyer, and what I have for you today is a vault door. This vault door can be bypassed with a paper clip. Let me show you haw that's done".

@alexm566 Рік тому

lpl more and more keeps targeting cheap easy locks these days...

@sasquatch370 Рік тому

ROTFLMAO

@mretaoin1 Рік тому

@@alexm566 He's selling his lockpicking tools, not demonstrating difficult locks.

@derricgreene Рік тому

In reality, he has a safecracking machine that can take about a day (or three) depending on the complexity of the safe

@brussels13207 2 роки тому

I was once assigned the task of opening an Army field safe where the combination had “slipped.” I knew nothing about opening safes. But what I did have was several other identical safes, we were a finance office in Vietnam. This made the job pretty easy. By looking at the interior of identical safes, I could see where a hole could be drilled such that a metals rod could be inserted and click open the safe. Took safe to engineering guys, had them drill hole exactly where needed, inserted rod and presto, the safe was open. A little spot weld to cover hole that was drilled, and safe could be used again. Amazing what you can do when given a task, especially if ou think outside the box a little.

@caterpillakilla 2 роки тому

you mean thinking inside the box 😉

@AppleSauceGamingChannel 2 роки тому

@@caterpillakilla thinking outside the box about what's inside the box and you want outside the box so you can then put it back into a box...BOX

@zachbrown1630 Рік тому

@@AppleSauceGamingChannel that made me laugh way harder than it should have

@antonomaseapophasis5142 Рік тому

You mean "inside the safe"

@Magicspirit11 8 місяців тому

If it would have been a GSA container you would not have gone far with a drill, you would have needed a large angle grinder with a mount.

@Hunter-xy7sc Рік тому

Love that this guy acknowledged some things you have to do to make a movie look good but also explained what they're expressing. Great guest

@sovcsiklaszo4351 2 роки тому

The expert spoke very competently, it was a pleasure to listen! And what is most shocking is the last scene. That safe weighs about 3 tons and is full of money. That much money weighs about 100 tons, it would take special machinery to handle it, let alone knock down walls. And here it's being pulled away by two Dodge's :D

@emlynn1004 2 роки тому

Great ad for Dodge, though lol

@edwardvdc6287 2 роки тому

listen again, quote: "The door alone weighs probably between 10 and 12 tonnes" Yeah, not gonna happen xD

@xMingan 2 роки тому

Two cars that start spinning wheels as soon as the cable gets tension. Not going anywhere.

@BigDavoNorriwong 2 роки тому

Their axles would be dust

@TooLittleInfo 2 роки тому

The best part of any FF movie is the suspension of disbelief lol

@AnimecrazySakura7 Рік тому

This is one of the most interesting professional critique videos I’ve ever seen! Professional safecracker seemed like a made up job but it’s probably one of the coolest things ever and this guy was so good at explaining everything! I enjoyed every minute, thank you!

@kikixchannel Рік тому

For every crime you can think of, you can be 100% certain there is a profession that is actually legal doing just that. I mean, if someone forgets the combination to a safe, it's just ridiculous to just up and treat it as a loss whenthere could be billions in it. Same as to why there are hackers that are legal. They are paid to hack programs and computer systems, to find the vulnerabilities, so that they can be fixed. Oh...and they are used by the police forces to hack into stuff the owners genuinely don't want them to hack into too...but yeah. It's still legal if there's court warrant for that.

@MLB9000 2 роки тому

I really hope that at the end of the Annual Manipulation Contest the award is presented inside a locked safe that the winner has to open.

@thebatonmaster 2 роки тому

No, thank YOU! Super fun and interesting to have this guy on. Passionate yet reserved. Would love to see him a second time.

@la_keith321 2 роки тому

I dig this guy, would love to hear his top 5 on actual safe cracking where the people got away, or the legends in his field!

@larsgrabowski9269 2 роки тому

"I run an international organisation of professional Safecrackers" is a great synopsis for a movie I would definitely watch.

@davidbutler8096 Рік тому

Michael Mann employed real safe crackers for Thief...the police detective who arrests James Cann was played by a real thief. And...the soundtrack by Tangerine Dream is excellent.

@williamwells434 Рік тому

These how-to tutorials are getting really in depth and I appreciate that

@natea.2926 2 роки тому

Super knowledgeable guy, humble and with a good sense of humor. One of the most informative expert commentary videos!

@rmdc2782 2 роки тому

I adore this guy. He really knows what he's talking about

@hatednyc 2 роки тому

Fascinating stuff. If I ever produce a film with safe cracking scenes I want this man as a consultant.

@TWWIW 2 роки тому

I met him at a pen party at my fathers former job called Corporate Safe Specialists when I was younger. Nice guy and very brilliant in the art of safe cracking! Got a autographed history book on his safe cracking experience. I tried reading the first page and thought I'd do better reading Chinese lol

@dandymcgee Рік тому

I accidentally cracked my grandparents' safe once.. on the second try. It was under a computer desk, and I was playing a game on the computer, so I didn't look at the safe while playing with it. Each time, I scrambled it by spinning the dial 4-5 times, turned it left 3 rotations, right 2, left 1, then tried the handle. I judged how much to turn it purely based on what "felt" natural. I don't mean by feeling for bumps or applying tension to the handle. I literally just turned it the _amount_ of rotation that felt like enough to be a valid combination. I pushed down the handle after the second attempt, and in one smooth motion the huge metal door fell gently open. I tried to do it a bunch more times after that and never was able to successfully open it again. I never looked at what was in the safe. I immediately closed it and locked it back up and was afraid at what I had just achieved.

@MemeticsX Рік тому

This guy really knows what he's talking about; really appreciated his detailed, expert analysis and explanations.

@geetarwanabe 2 роки тому

"runs international organization of professional safe crackers" basically a bond villian

@p51abc 2 роки тому

I'm also wondering that if a safe is underwater, if the pressure differential would make it more difficult to open? Of course 10 feet underwater vs 50 feet vs 300 feet would be a substantial difference. I would guess that in the movie it wouldn't be too much...

@yellekc Рік тому

It depends if water can get into the safe to equalize the pressure. But let's say it's waterproof and has a 3x4 foot door. That's 12 square feet. If you have atmospheric pressure on the inside and 10 feet of water pressure on the outside, that's about 4.3 psi or 620 lbs per square foot, so over 12 square feet that's over 7400 lbs of force on that door. You ain't opening it.

@Zombiesfromjupiter 4 місяці тому

it's venice, the canals are incredibly shallow

@p51abc 4 місяці тому

@@Zombiesfromjupiter As someone stated above, even 10 feet underwater would add an incredible amount of pressure to the door.

@CreativeSteve69 2 роки тому

This is my first time hearing of such a job of a professional safecraker. After all these years I thought it was a made up position for films n tv watching growing up. I find this a really neat carrier subject. :)

@ploopy8780 2 роки тому

It's just called being a locksmith.

@bobbuhler3753 2 роки тому

@@ploopy8780 Because I am both, I can tell you it's not the same. Different ball game, same field.

@TheSaintBigFoot 2 роки тому

@@bobbuhler3753 what steps did you take to start that career? I really want to explore this field.

@KyokujiFGC Рік тому

This is the same guy who opened Prince's sealed vault.

@gokselcandogan Рік тому

@@ploopy8780 the video starts by literally telling you that they're not the same

@davelabargesafecracker2104 2 роки тому

Having known Dave McOmie for over three decades now I'm glad to see he dispelled some of the safecracking myths seen in the movies over the years, yet also stated when an accurate detail was shown. The only thing I noticed that was wrong was when he was describing manipulation and breaking down the number five into tenths such as 5.1, 5.2, 5.3 etc. He was actually at 95 and not 5 on the dial at the time. But as Dave says "Safecrackers love safecracking in the movies" and an experienced safe and vault technician will notice things like that, even on UKposts!!

@looksirdroids9134 2 роки тому

It's irrelevant where he was on the dial, he wasn't showing where he was.

@knockeledup 2 роки тому

It’s quite possible that editing could be to blame. He may have correctly described what he was doing but then the makers of the video wanted a close up and could have easily shown the wrong part of the dial.

@IdleByte Рік тому

You can tell how much joy he gets out of saying "water bomb"

@zidbits1528 Рік тому

The problem with the burning bar is that it will set off fire suppression systems inside the room/building you're working in. Commercial properties, where you're likely going to need to get into a safe, has robust sprinkler systems.

@squelchtone 2 роки тому

I am so happy he mentioned the Hollywood BS of adding the clicking sound when a dial is being turned. A real safe lock will be so nice and quiet when you turn it.. there are no clicks..

@x--. 2 роки тому

This certainly makes sense but that Hollywood BS helps sell the movie for the millions and millions (literally) of people who are professional safe-crackers. That sound design can be tested with audiences, as well. Complete silence? or a clicking sound, like a clock counting down, keeping the pressure on. In the same way no professional safe cracker would want Hollywood to give a tutorial on how to exactly crack some safe, no Hollywood filmmaker is going to pass up an opportunity to build tension in a scene. :) It's the biz.

@lyledeporiss5937 2 роки тому

This is so fascinating, it deserves more views by now

@Borg14 2 роки тому

I love this video series. I learn about stuff I thought I had no interest in and end up really learning something.

@otteotte7698 2 роки тому

Best intro ever

@dvdmike007 2 роки тому

One of the best videos you guys have done in ages, but you should have done The Heist

@alexshoemaker248 Рік тому

I always love watching experts watch things like this and critiquing on what can be and can't be shown about things. The earliest example I loved was talking with my dad about how inaccurate military rankings are shown in movies due to rather obvious implications of IDing ranking officers, they have to show bad markings and he likes trying to find what they are.

@andrewwillard5625 2 роки тому

I love these videos they do I feel like you really learn so much

@Chrispy9393 2 роки тому

This was a fantastic video. I'd be happy to see more videos with him.

@kayamonn3220 Рік тому

I always wanna see safecrackers react to the safe cracking in White Collar. There’s lots of fun scenes, and it’d be super interesting to learn how real they are

@jdonvance Рік тому

See, now I want to see a supercut of all these safecracking scenes back to back.

@elliotross 2 роки тому

get this guy back for a part 2!

@grimalkin6676 Рік тому

The thing is according to plenty of stunt coordinators and news articles the FF scene with the vault? Depending on which part of the scene you watch that is a real 9000 pound vault they are pulling with those cars. Other parts of the scene used a half vault,a driving vault,one cgi vault and one lightweight fake one mounted on a ramp.

@derkadeher8369 2 роки тому

sounds like he needs to drink some water

@MatheusLB2009 Рік тому

I had no idea safecracking could be so cool, but this man proved it!

@johntaylor1947 2 роки тому

I have repaired and restored antique Banker's safes - they are the high security safes of the time designed to be dynamite proof. They are beautiful works of art and fine engineering. I am not good at manipulation, so I drill if I have to and I can tell you the safe companies were very good at hardening steel 130 years ago. At their time they were impregnable and today they are very formidable. I enjoyed your presentation it moved right along.

@Gunbudder Рік тому

9:41 i have a vault that doesn't have a bolt like this. its just a very tiny and light bar that sits down in the gates and allows the handler to turn. the handle has a crazy amount of friction too, so its more annoying to crack (supposedly). for the last number on my dial though, you can spin right past it without ever knowing if you aren't careful

@since1876 Рік тому

16:00 sounds like safe cracking and car mechanics have a lot in common 😂

@trevormurphy7041 2 роки тому

This guy is awesome I took a lock in the tub and tried it you can really know he’s a professional

@alexeiutgoff7955 Рік тому

It takes the average person 3 semesters to be able to easily open a highschool locker every time.

@stevenr6397 2 роки тому

oddly i'd say the fast five's most realistic part is cracking the safe with a palm scanner, its just a big fingerprint scanner for your whole hand and fingerprint scanners are notoriously useless and unreliable, thats why they DONT use them

@ClaudiusPunchinello Рік тому

For anyone wanting more Dave, he was featured in "This American Life" episode 750: "The Ferryman", talking about a job he took of great musical significance.

@Gottiline_Ace Рік тому

"Supposed to believe they used some magic wu wu", that's my new line... 😆

@gritnix Рік тому

"Use magic woowoo to open it." Hilarious!

@dreamlife2351 2 роки тому

I love these videos ❣️. Brilliant

@christopherweick5903 Рік тому

I used to use a thermic lance to pierce rivets for removal, ironworkers get such wonderful toys 😁

@JJAAHH 2 роки тому

I hear 'safe cracker' every time he says 'safecracker', like he is a secure saltine

@rurri1531 2 роки тому

Amazing topic

@TheManCone Рік тому

So wouldn't installing a built in clicking mechanism make it much harder to feel and or interpret those contact points? Thus making it nearly if not impossible to open by simple means?

@DedicatedSpirit8 Рік тому

I was a locksmith for nearly 15 years and always find lockpicking and safe cracking in movies to be hilarious.. I'm no safe expert tho. My specialty was automotive

@TillerSNZ 2 роки тому

As someone born and raised in Hillsboro Oregon, wild to hear it was this guy at the Albertsons 😂

@huangjun_art 2 роки тому

Army of Thieves is such an amazing movie. Yes, of course a lot is made up. The main character Dieter almost has some sort of a superpower for safecracking, and that's what makes it such a fun movie.

@nookiepiza7898 Рік тому

They should have brought lock picking lawyer

@slickstretch6391 Рік тому

I wish I had the focus and dedication to get this good at anything.

@FallenJustice 2 роки тому

I want to see Dave review some more films.

@DAF546 2 роки тому

Like Antman

@antonomaseapophasis5142 Рік тому

-6:41 "The Albertson Job" I saw that! Nick Cage was great.

@martinlutherkingjr.5582 2 роки тому

Aren’t bank safes basically irrelevant now with electronic payments?

@TheSaintBigFoot 2 роки тому

We need LPL to laugh thru every lock picking scene

@XxXFlyingArmBarXxX Рік тому

This man needs his own show

@swimmerkat3965 2 роки тому

I didn’t expect to hear Hillsboro OR mentioned in one of these! I think I know the exact store he was talking about!

@herzogsbuick Рік тому

What I really learned is a positive correlation between safecracking in a film, and the word "Thief" in its title

@jackbotman Рік тому

It's safe to say this was very enjoyable

@bionicRod Рік тому

Super interesting, great video!

@MrBuckman420 2 роки тому

Love that he says the vault one is impossible when it's an actual stunt they did but obviously the vault wasn't full weight.

@ploopy8780 2 роки тому

They didn't do it at full weight because it was impossible....

@johngaltline9933 2 роки тому

@@GameTesterBootCamp It was a real, 9000 lb safe... with wheels and a driver inside it that could steer it.

@girtisholland 2 роки тому

@@johngaltline9933 So the safe had a driver because it wasn’t possible otherwise

@DeadlyPlatypus 2 роки тому

@@girtisholland It was basically a car with a box on it...they used two cars to pull one car. After thinking about it, that ratio doesn't scale, though... • 2 cars to pull 1? EASY • 4 cars to pull 2? MODERATE • 100 cars to pull 50? Technically easy, logistically impossible Going the other way? • 1 car to pull half a car? EASY, but messy. • Half a car to pull a quarter car? Very difficult...EVEN HARDER if both cars were split longitudinally.

@yesssirr987 Рік тому

awesome video and passionate dude, so entertaining

@Nrivera9123 Рік тому

I feel like the clicking noise can help u count the clicks and keep track of ya count. like when he did 5, 5.1,5.2 etc lol idek tho 🤷🏽‍♂️😂

@ken1kiss 2 роки тому

this was an excellent video.

@iamamish Рік тому

I love his intellectual honesty

@Xanderviceory Рік тому

Theres an ASMR guy on YT that makes hour long videos of trying to open a combination lock by just raw trial and error

@NikolajPeyk 2 роки тому

You've gotta love experts. Nothing better than people who know what they're talking about.

@HAbarneyWK 2 роки тому

Yet I have trouble opening dial locks when I know the combination 😅

@quartfeira Рік тому

Give to the man a glass of water for God's sake!

@NotSure109 Рік тому

"They shouldn't be showing that!" if it's too realistic? What a bad person.

@maotisjan 10 місяців тому

18:34 They would need AT LEAST an M3 Bradley or maybe even an Abrams, on top of that I very much doubt that those cars frame would hold out not even mentioning the cables

@saginawdan 2 роки тому

Very enjoyable - thanks 👍

@retrobass3693 2 роки тому

this was amazing

@speedviolin 2 роки тому

This guy could be the father of Michael Rapaport !

@AkiraHDR50 Рік тому

I was expecting bad Santa to be on here.

@jackzwahlen764 Рік тому

For the army of thieves safe, the reason he did it without looking was that was the one he practiced on and knew like the back of his hand, that's why in the scene it plays out musically for him, he is in tune with all of the mannerisms of the lock

@davemcomie1526 Рік тому

You're right, Jack. But remember: Dieter's manipulation technique works only in movies, not the real world.

@ProudPapaJD 2 роки тому

I for one am SHOCKED that Fast Five was not realistic! Seriously though, I was extremely disappointed Die Hard was not in this video.

@RobertMorgan Рік тому

Irony is it WAS real. They did drag a large safe with cars, people almost died, buildings were built to be destroyed. They did most of it practically. The making of is fascinating, check it out

@OfficialTigerino 2 роки тому

This guy is the final evolution of that TikTok that roasts padlocks

@robertdickerson16 2 роки тому

This guy said ,"THINGAMABOB",LOL,we're in Memphis where 100,000 of us are without power and 20 degree ice ,and hearing him say that made my week still worth ,haha "THINGAMABOB ,LOVE IT